Episode 4638： Senate Passes The Recission Package; Restoring Our Constitution
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Willie Chianne and Russ Vogt join Stephen K.K. to discuss the impact of the Senate vote to claw back $9 billion from foreign aid and public broadcasting, and why it could have a big impact on local media and the rest of the country.
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When Trump came into power, he was surrounded by ideologues who have been nursing these
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theories for quite some time that are really quite extreme.
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One of the principal ones is a man named Russell Vogt.
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He is someone who is a self-described Christian nationalist who has been around Washington
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And he has an idea of really kind of radical changes he wants to implement.
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My belief is that the president has to move executively as fast and as aggressively as
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possible with a radical constitutional perspective to be able to dismantle that bureaucracy in
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Before the election, Vogt laid out his vision in a chapter he wrote for the Heritage Foundation's
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The great challenge confronting a conservative president is the existential need for aggressive
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use of the vast powers of the executive branch.
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He told us quite explicitly he wants to search out for pockets of independence from presidential
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He's made no secret of the fact that he wants to rest for the presidency more power over spending
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Trump and people around him understand what we have to do to get back to a constitutional republic.
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We're going after the infrastructure and the plumbing and the wiring of the whole system.
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We're not going to take our foot off the gas pedal.
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I want to ask you about another vote that took place just a few hours ago early this morning.
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And that is the vote to claw back $9 billion in the budget from foreign aid and from public broadcasting.
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But these are doge cuts from the federal government.
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There were two Republicans who did vote against it.
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Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski saying we cannot cede our power as the Congress to the executive branch
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And yet Republicans did exactly that this morning.
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It's a drop in the bucket, one-tenth of one percent of the total budget.
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But it is profoundly important for its impact on local broadcasting, PBS and NPR.
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have a very, very important service role in supporting local broadcasting.
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And this could be devastating to local news, whether it's the town council or the weather.
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And around the world, the impact on foreign aid will be devastating as well.
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You know, this move by Republicans is intolerable bait and switch.
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They engaged in bipartisan action to approve this funding just months ago.
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Now, unilaterally, in a very partisan way, one-sided, blanket canceling or clawing back
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of this money means that they are ceding essential authority to the president to determine what he's
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going to spend and what not and to themselves breaking the institution's bipartisan approach
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And there's a practical issue of how we go forward in September when we're going to have
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Why should Democrats go along with an agreement as to how to fund the government when that
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agreement can be simply shredded by the president or by a partisan Republican 50 vote majority?
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Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Thursday, 17 July in the year of our Lord, 2025.
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We're absolutely packed all the way up to the noon hour and then five to seven.
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This is basically the theory of the case that people have been working on
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Walk our audience through why Blumenthal is right.
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This was an actual historic vote today on a concept, right?
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It actually had practical implications or media practical implications or NPR
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But walk us through why this was so important of what happened
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with the first voting in the Senate to approve a rescissions package
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of $9 billion from the President of the United States.
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The Senate was the critical juncture to get past that vote.
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We had to tweak the package a little bit, but it's still $9 billion.
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I expect it to be passed either tonight or tomorrow.
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And what's historic about it is just the return of using rescissions
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So when you do an appropriations bill, those are generally all having to get through a Senate
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And so the Democrats have an opportunity to leverage it for 60 votes.
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We tried to do it in the first term, and it failed in the Senate.
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It's only $9 billion because we wanted to restore the process and make it as hard a vote for the
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House and the Senate as possible in the sense of we know you don't want to do it, particularly
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We know you're not thrilled about it, and so we want you to be for it.
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And we want to package it with the foreign aid, package it with the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
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That was the president's genius to put those two together, send it up, and restore a way of doing
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business that the American people can know when they put majorities in place in the House and
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Senate and the president that is all of one party.
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They can actually change spending and not be subject to the whims of the Democratic Party.
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And you're hearing, it's kind of hilarious, you're hearing all about this bipartisan
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appropriations process, that this will just destroy it.
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Literally no one voted for a bipartisan appropriations process.
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And I don't think any Democrats voted for a bipartisan appropriations process.
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They voted on the Republican side to balance the budget.
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They voted to restore our fiscal House to order.
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They voted to restore the debt to sustainable levels.
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And we've been looking carefully because we want to see was it successful before we will
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And we will have executive tools that are also available to make the doge cuts, the OMB cuts
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permanent and something that we can actually use to reduce deficits.
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Because when you say the bipartisan appropriations, that's essentially the swamp, the uniparty, right?
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They come together on one topic, and that's spending money.
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I want to get down to granularity on this because we had the big, beautiful bill.
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We're heading to they're doing the appropriations now for fiscal year 26.
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Blumenthal is already blaming you for the CR, right?
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He's going to say, hey, we can't really we're never going to be able to get to the single
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subject appropriations bills because we can't trust the administration because Russ vote
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is just going to sit there and lay waste to us anyway.
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Are you going to roll out additional rescissions packages for this fiscal year and then start
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Is this something we should anticipate is going to be an ongoing process?
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This is something we wanted to look to see whether they would vote for this.
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If they did and it was successful, we'll send up additional packages.
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And so, you know, I think one is likely to come very soon.
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And we want to make sure that when we are are using all of our executive tools to be able to
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And if it changes the appropriations process, it changes the appropriations process.
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The appropriations process has given us thirty seven trillion dollars in debt and these bipartisan
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massive omnibus bills that no one's ever read before.
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And by the way, half the time they don't even do that.
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So these these the defenders of the appropriations process,
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it's not clear to me what is the positive agenda they're selling the American people
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We're here to say we're getting rid of woke and weaponized government
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that's causing them to have high interest rates
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and passing on debt to their children and grandchildren that they can't afford.
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President Trump is now doing something about it.
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You know, you all know that I kind of rose through the ranks of being a budget staffer
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the lists of the conservative programs that we've hated for years, decades.
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One of them was always Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
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It made every single list and every single year, including
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the Gingrich revolution, nothing was ever done about it.
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And lo and behold, President Trump in his first six months,
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we're now on the one yard line with another House vote.
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This the critical changes that were made in the Senate did not impact the public
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We are now on the one yard of having that defunded for two straight years.
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Incredible historic victory that President Trump, because he he approaches things from
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a different way than this town is used to operating.
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He changes this town. He doesn't let it change him.
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He doesn't let it change his agenda. And we're on we're on the on a path
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to making substantial moves this year to balance the budget and get us on that road.
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I want to go back. PBS has done an hour and 20 minute really incredible documentary.
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Of course, we're not going to agree with everything and neither are you.
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But it talks about your efforts to really say, hey, that the Article two powers here,
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particularly in controlling spending and the size of the government and letting people go,
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are not just unique, they're pretty broad. And we have to start to enforce that. Do you believe that
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these actions you're taking now are going along the lines of the Constitution that you and the guys
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at Heritage and CRA and CPI and others have been working on for all four years
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in the interregnum between the first and second term?
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Yeah, it's really important that we restore what the founding fathers would have understood to be
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the proper role of the legislative branch and the proper role of the executive branch.
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And so it is absolutely crystal clear hallmark constitutional principle that Congress has the
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power of the purse and governs appropriation, setting that level. What is that ceiling?
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For 200 years, up until the 1970s, our founding fathers and our presidents exercised the ability to
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have the president be in charge of the spending of that appropriation and to spend less than the
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appropriation. At the lowest moment of the presidency, they inserted in the Impoundment Control Act,
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which really caricatured this notion of what the power of the purse meant, and made it so that you had
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to spend up to that level and kind of use it or lose it for a bureaucracy, which, oh, by the way,
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caused those bureaucracy not to be focused on the president, but to be focused on Congress. And so you
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get the beginnings of the Imperial Congress. And so all that we're doing, and President Trump ran on
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this, he ran on the Impoundment Control Act being unconstitutional, on the notion of impoundments,
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all the president is doing is restoring our constitutional system to what it was at the founding,
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and not letting a post-Watergate Democratic majority dictate for us the extent to which we
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have the ability to have a say in how things are spent and how they're not spent.
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Do you think we'll actually go to impoundments, or are you going to continue down the rescissions process?
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It's very much on the table. We're certainly not taking it off, and we're going to go through this.
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We're a sailboat trying to get to port. We're going to tick and tack all the way there,
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and I think it's going to be something we need your audience to pay attention to.
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I'm glad you're the helmsman. We should give a special shout out to Senator Eric Schmidt of
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Missouri. I think he was a tremendous ally of yours in trying to pound this through.
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Senator Schmidt was a warrior. I mean, he spent the whole day on the floor,
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beating back amendments constantly, and the war room posse should definitely get his back
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with some acclamation and the job they did to help President Trump.
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Russ, where do people go to follow you on social media, sir?
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At RussVote, they can get me, and at OMB Press.
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$9 billion, but it's a start. And look at the effort they had to put in. I mean, RussVote,
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Eric Schmidt of Missouri, others worked this nonstop, but the Democrats are in shock that
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I don't think one's been done since 1999. Last big one that was done, I think, was President Reagan.
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There's been historic and more coming. They've got a bunch of other rescissions coming. And like
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Rush just said right there, if the rescissions, if they start blocking the rescissions, they'll
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come with the impoundments. Because President Trump believes the Impoundment Control Act is
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totally and completely unconstitutional. Short commercial break. Back in the warm in just a moment.
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over at Birch Gold. Jason Trenert joins us. Jason, we haven't had you in a couple months. Jason, actually,
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you were going to go into the administration as, I think, undersecretary or assistant secretary.
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You've been under the weather. You've had some ill health recently. First of all,
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the audience wants to know how you're doing. I'm doing okay. Thanks for asking, Steve. I've got,
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you know, I've got a ways to go. I'm heartbroken that I am not in the administration. I was going to be
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assistant secretary of the treasury for financial markets. But unfortunately, kind of life intervened,
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and I've got to focus on my health here for a while. But we're making a lot of progress,
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and hopefully I'll be back in the saddle before too long.
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Let's talk about that, the financial markets, because I want to ask you this question about the
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Fed. There's a lot of controversy spilling we had here in Real America's Voice. Our own John Solomon
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interviewed President yesterday at about nine o'clock in the morning. He says, no, I'm not going to,
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I'm not going to replace, I'm not going to replace Powell. He reiterated that at the press avail he had
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with the Crown Prince and Prime Minister of Bahrain. And we're hearing two things. Number one,
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legally, they don't know if they can do it. Number two, about the markets. Given the big, beautiful bill
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has passed, and that's still quite controversial, right? President Trump is now going on the road
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to sell that deal. What's your sense of the financial markets response to the big,
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beautiful bill and where Jason Turner thinks we are in the summer of 25?
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Well, in terms of the one big, beautiful bill, I mean, it's probably a little larger than I would
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like. But I know that's kind of the way the sausage is made. But there are provisions in the bill,
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particularly full expensing of research and development of capital expenditures of factory
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building that I think are extremely exciting and will lead to productivity, which is, in my opinion,
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the only way the US is going. The US has to grow its way out of its debt. It's not going to be able to
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cut spending its way out of its debt. It's not going to be able to raise taxes enough. As Margaret
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Thatcher said, sooner or later, you run out of other people's money. We're right at that precipice here
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in New York. So in my opinion, the US has to grow itself out. And in my opinion, that one big, beautiful
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bill, gives a lot of incentives for businesses not to do financial engineering, but to actually invest
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in capital and and in their own their own businesses.
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Now, I've heard from a number of real estate people throughout the country that people were
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contacting them about plants, about starting to make investments in capital equipment to actually
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grow manufacturing. So we'll see how that plays out. But that's the theories. As you know, Scott Besson,
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who you were going to go work for, and you're very close to, has said, this is the last supply side.
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This is the last shot we had at a supply side cut. So we got it. And now we got to make sure
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that it's executed. Walk me through that you're particularly some turmoil in the in the in the,
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I guess, in the out years in the bond market, the 20s and 30s. What is your sense of this discussion
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about the Fed chair, this new the Versailles he's building, the controversy over the architect of the
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capital and OMB and plus the job he's doing and President Trump continue to hammer him every day?
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Well, you know, I have a different interpretation, Steve, of and I'm certainly I'm not an intimate
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of President Trump. So I'm speaking extemporaneously here. But I think President Trump, it's not just a
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problem with J-PAL. It's a problem with the institution itself. It's a problem with the swamp
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itself. And the Fed is pretty swampy in many ways, right? It's it stayed out of it stays out of politics.
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So that's the good thing. But no one knows what they're doing. And it's an it's an enormous
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institution. You know, my dad used to say nothing good happens after midnight. And at the Federal
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Reserve, they have 800 Ph.D. economists. And I would say nothing good happens when you have 800
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Ph.D. economists. And I think President Trump is right that the organization does not have to be
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nearly as big as it is to do the job it's doing, which I have to say hasn't been particularly great
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over the past four or five years. So I don't think it would be a good idea for President Trump to fire
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J-PAL, my own opinion. I think that would be counterproductive as far as the markets are
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concerned. But I can understand why he's upset. In terms of the out years, I think that, you know,
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there is a tendency, there has been a tendency to issue more short term debt than long term debt.
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And the fact that the out years are moving up probably suggests that people don't believe
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that the U.S. government can get its financial house in order. And the decline in the dollar,
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too, this year, I think, is another and the strength of gold, I think, are other other indications that
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people are hedging against what they view as just money printing from fiat currency based economies.
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Last thing, I haven't had a chance to go through all, but I understand President Trump's a new
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executive order that really changes is going to change pretty dramatically the range of alternatives,
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things you can do in a 401k. This is kind of your your line of of focus. Any observations on what
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you've seen so far on this for on the 401k EO? Yeah, I mean, I get it, Steve. I mean, you know,
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private equity has been it certainly has been a a good performer for a long period of time, but it's high
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fee and low liquidity. Right. So, you know, whether it's appropriate really for retirement
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plans, it really depends on the age of the person that you're talking about. What would worry me is
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that certain private equity funds might might not put the best assets in the funds that are available to
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the retail investor. And I'm not saying I'm not casting any aspersions on anyone. But, you know,
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stranger things have happened. And I think it's good for people to have more options as as a capitalist.
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By the same token, I think people have to be made aware of the risks that they're taking.
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Jason Trenert said, like a very savvy Wall Street guy, far be it from our private equity fund to dump
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maybe some of the cats and dogs and certain fun. Jason, you look you look so much better.
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We pray every day for your recovery. And great. This is the first time you've hit the media,
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I think four or five months. Really appreciate you making the war room your priority. Social media,
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where do they go to to find you? I'm on I'm on X. I'm on Twitter. So that's the best way,
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best way to find me. And also, www.strategusrp.com.
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By the way, your father was a very wise man. Nothing good happens after midnight.
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That's right. Particularly with you got teenagers. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.
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Thank you. Jason was going to be assistant secretary of the Treasury for financial markets,
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one of the smartest guys around shows you the team that Scott Besson's bringing together a lot
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on the capital market side, and particularly the fact that Russ votes a pretty historic day.
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A lot more is also going on. I mean, it's almost hard to keep track of all of it. The House is going
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to have, I think, a Votarama for the next 24, 48 hours. They're trying to get out of town, I guess,
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on Friday. But they've got they've not only got the the rescission package, they've got this MTG is
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going to join us a lot of confusion about what's happening on the Genius Act of whether the central
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bank digital currency back door has been shut down or not. Of course, a number of people in the House
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joined Ro Khanna last night and being co-sponsors of the of the this Epstein, I guess, Epstein
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amendment they want to put forward for the full disclosure of all that. Also, John Solomon is
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waiting for a story today on NBC news about a meeting that took place on Sunday about declassifying
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really a bunch of emails and other classified documents around this attempt to remove President
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Trump from the presidency, starting with Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, the obviously the the
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Comey, the Mola Commission, all this this investigation is actually you're seeing a lot of
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teeth put into it. Major story today about a declassification of documents that's going to spur
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that forward. And we're hearing that that is what they're looking to put a special counsel on right
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away because it's going to be a quite complicated situation to go through basically 10 years. But
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there's a lot going on there. I think Ed Martin may be involved. Also, the the vote today, if we can
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pull that up, that's happening of Emil Boeve as a federal appeals judge. And there's a lot of discussion
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that he would be fast tracked to the next opening of the Supreme Court, one of President Trump's lawyers
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and a guy that we couldn't think more highly of. Also, I think Judge Jeanine is also being confirmed
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today as the U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., one of the most powerful, powerful positions in the
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entire government. So things are all it's happening in Washington, D.C. today. We're going to keep up to
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Laura Loomer joins us. Laura, you've been quite a role over the last, I don't know, 48, 72 hours. Just
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walk through the Laura Loomer hip rate. Let's start with Comey's daughter. Let's start with her,
00:30:05.440
but then go down because you've got a bunch of other scalps and you've also identified some people
00:30:10.160
that haven't been removed yet, but should be removed that only Laura Loomer and her research
00:30:14.960
can get done. So just take it. Let's walk me through the punch list. Yeah. Well, thanks so
00:30:19.840
much for having me. Look, the vetting crisis continues in this administration. It's something
00:30:24.480
that I've been addressing since President Trump was inaugurated in January of this year. And the
00:30:30.160
problem is, Steve, is that we're seeing a lot of the deep state operatives and Biden and Obama
00:30:34.880
holdovers who really carried out this coup against President Trump, participated in the stolen
00:30:39.920
election, participated in all of the indictments and the sabotage of President Trump, still working
00:30:45.360
in the Trump administration. So back in May, I had pointed out the fact that Maureen Comey and her
00:30:51.360
husband were still working at the DOJ. And I had been beating the drum against Pam Blondie, as I call
00:30:58.320
her, because I was the first person to call for Pam Blondie to be fired or to resign after she
00:31:04.000
embarrassed the president at Bindergate, right? Bindergate with the Epstein files over at the White House.
00:31:09.280
And so, you know, people said that it was on hinge to call for her to be fired, but now
00:31:13.840
everybody is singing the same tune. Imagine that. That being said, it took two months, right? Two
00:31:20.720
months to the date. The day I first posted this was May 16th. And yesterday, July 16th is when
00:31:26.320
Pam Blondie, I guess, decided to fire Maureen Comey from the DOJ. However, her husband still remains
00:31:32.080
there where he is employed. And so, you know, my question is, why is James Comey's son-in-law still
00:31:38.640
But hang over a second. Pam's defense, wasn't Comey running the trial of Diddy or P. Diddy,
00:31:50.400
whatever he's called? When you called for it in May, and don't get me wrong, having Comey's
00:31:55.120
daughter around is obscene, right? Given the fact that now they're declassifying documents that he
00:32:02.400
may be under criminal indictment for trying to have a coup against President Trump. But wasn't the
00:32:07.440
daughter in a position at the time that they couldn't remove her given the trial?
00:32:12.880
Well, they could have addressed this. I don't remember which day exactly the Diddy trial started,
00:32:17.600
but this should have been done on day one when President Trump was inaugurated. So they should
00:32:21.600
have had a list of all of the people who participated in these witch hunts, people who were family members
00:32:26.640
or associates of the worst offenders. We know that Comey is one of the worst offenders. Even in
00:32:31.920
his so-called retirement, he's inciting violence against Donald Trump, calling for him to be
00:32:36.160
assassinated, pretending like he doesn't know what 8647 means. But look, the point is that
00:32:41.760
there's a lot of people at the DOJ who are unqualified and unfit to be there. They're
00:32:46.480
holdovers. And this is going to jeopardize the Trump administration. Moving on to another one of
00:32:52.480
these individuals who I identified. It's an individual by the name of Monty Hawkins, who was
00:32:57.040
just fired yesterday, two days after I exclusively reported. His position, by the way, he's a senior national
00:33:03.840
security advisor and the director of the National Vetting Center at Customs and Border Patrol.
00:33:08.480
This guy is a Biden holdover and he hates Trump. He hates Trump and he hates ICE. And he is
00:33:16.080
in charge of the vetting center, Steve. He's in charge of the technological vetting center that CBP uses,
00:33:22.400
along with ICE, to determine who comes into our country. So imagine this. We have a guy who's
00:33:27.360
sympathetic to illegal aliens, who hates Trump and loves Joe Biden's open border policies and
00:33:32.560
who thinks that ICE is a stain on what policing is supposed to be. That's a real LinkedIn post that
00:33:38.960
he liked. He shared all these anti-ICE articles on his LinkedIn and liked them when ICE was carrying
00:33:45.360
out their raids in Los Angeles. That's a national security threat. How do you know that this guy isn't
00:33:51.280
rigging the algorithm in this vetting database so that more illegal aliens come in? How do you know
00:33:56.800
that he's not trying to fluff the numbers to actually undermine President Trump's mass deportation
00:34:02.400
campaign? You don't know. And so I'm proud to report that he has been identified, fired,
00:34:08.880
and officially loomered. So one down, many more to go. Trisha McLaughlin, who's the assistant secretary
00:34:16.080
of the Department of Homeland Security, confirmed to me yesterday that the White House had signed off
00:34:21.040
on Monty's termination. So that's great news. Another vetting crisis, and this one is very
00:34:27.840
egregious. I know when I texted this to you, you couldn't even believe it. You said this probably
00:34:32.320
couldn't be true, but it is, unfortunately. If you remember the raid on Mar-a-Lago,
00:34:39.520
they said that President Trump violated the Presidential Records Act. They said that he took
00:34:44.800
15 boxes of alleged classified documents to Mar-a-Lago in violation of the Presidential Records
00:34:53.040
Act. How did this come about? How did President Trump get referred for investigation and indictment
00:34:58.560
and ultimately an FBI raid by the Biden DOJ? Well, there's a guy by the name of David Ferrerio,
00:35:04.400
who was the archivist during the time of the Trump administration. David is the guy who said,
00:35:09.840
well, I saw President Trump and Melania leaving, and they had boxes. And I said, what the hell is
00:35:14.880
he doing? And so I was notified about this. And then I reported him to the DOJ. Well, what they
00:35:20.960
don't say, and there's one article in the Washington Post that I was able to uncover that identified who
00:35:26.880
exactly told David Ferrerio this information. His name is Philip Troge, and he currently serves as the
00:35:32.160
White House Director of Records Management. And that was his position in the first administration as well.
00:35:37.280
Well, he's the guy that told David Ferrerio that President Trump was in violation and that he
00:35:44.320
should be referred for violations. And that's what prompted the raid on Mar-a-Lago. And according to
00:35:50.640
the congressional report on White House personnel that was just submitted for the month of July
00:35:55.720
to members of Congress that I reviewed, Philip Troge is still employed, where he's making almost
00:36:02.240
$200,000 a year, if you can believe it, working as, get this, the White House Director of Records
00:36:08.960
Management, Steve. Unbelievable. So the guy who literally prompted the raid on Mar-a-Lago and the
00:36:15.320
harassment campaign of President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump that almost led to Donald Trump
00:36:20.860
getting arrested and jailed in the middle of the 2024 presidential election is still working as the
00:36:27.500
White House Director of Records Management. You literally cannot make this crap up. And it's a
00:36:31.740
testament to just how horrible the vetting is. And look, I love President Trump, and I got along with
00:36:37.020
some of his staff. Some of them, you know, don't really like me too much. It's not exactly a secret.
00:36:41.040
Everybody knows. But that being said, they should be doing their job to vet these people and to make
00:36:46.880
sure that President Trump is not surrounded by people who, one, participated in the indictment or the
00:36:51.940
witch hunt against him or referred him for prosecution investigation. It's unbelievable.
00:36:57.320
So I'm still awaiting news from the White House on whether or not Philip Droge is going to be
00:37:03.480
terminated from his position. I know that the White House is in possession of this expose. I know that
00:37:10.080
it's pretty shocking. Hopefully this is addressed because, look, it's an absolute abomination.
00:37:16.280
Um, one more, and this is all in one week, by the way. Go ahead. Go ahead. I was going to say
00:37:22.400
there's one more. I want to get all, I want to get all the scalps and then I'm going to ask you
00:37:27.180
about the process. So go, go on, give me another scalp. This is another one. So just in one week,
00:37:33.000
these are, these are four people who, uh, I've been able to identify. Uh, so everybody's been
00:37:40.360
talking about the IceBlock app, the IceBlock app, which is this app that unfortunately is being,
00:37:44.980
uh, you know, proliferated in the Apple app store, despite the fact that Tim Cook or Tim
00:37:50.420
Apple, as president Trump likes to call him, claims that he is now supporting the Trump
00:37:54.780
administration. Well, that's a blatant lie. IceBlock is this app that is being promoted
00:37:59.460
by the Democrats and the radical left in Antifa to dox ice agents, to identify when ice raids are
00:38:06.820
taking place and to dox them and harass them and disrupt their raids so that, uh, they can't
00:38:13.040
identify and capture illegal aliens. Uh, we know that this is creating a serious national security
00:38:18.900
and public safety risk because several ice officers have been attacked in the middle of
00:38:23.900
their ice raids. They had a shooting in Texas where somebody tried to shoot some ice officers
00:38:28.920
in the middle of a raid. And we've seen in Los Angeles, they're throwing rocks at these people.
00:38:33.200
They're shooting at them. It's unbelievable trying to literally murder these ice agents. And this
00:38:36.880
app is helping to facilitate that violence. So the guy who founded the app, his name is Joshua Aaron.
00:38:43.520
He goes by Joshua Aaron. His real name is Joshua Aaron Feinstein. He lives in Austin, Texas.
00:38:48.420
I was able to discover that his wife, Caroline Feinstein is literally employed at the DOJ.
00:38:55.200
She is literally an auditor at the DOJ in Austin, Texas. So the wife of the guy who created the
00:39:01.160
Santifa app to go around and, uh, dox ice officials and obstruct and interfere in president Trump's mass
00:39:08.980
deportation campaign is literally working at the DOJ. So Pam Blondie needs to, you know, do some vetting.
00:39:16.340
I don't know. Maybe they need to bring some other people onto the DOJ. Cause you got, what do you got?
00:39:20.900
You have, you have, you have this guy, you have this guy whose wife is literally working at the,
00:39:25.660
at the DOJ. And then you have all these problems with Marine Comey and her, and her husband. I don't
00:39:30.920
know what's going on at the DOJ. It's not a secret that I'm not a fan of Pam Blondie, but at the end
00:39:35.620
of the day, if Pam Blondie really wants to change the news cycle on Epstein, she should immediately
00:39:40.800
announce the termination of these individuals. She should immediately announce the termination
00:39:46.300
of Caroline Feinstein. And, um, you know, she should, she should, uh, start announcing investigations,
00:39:54.640
criminal investigations into Joshua Aaron and Caroline Feinstein for their role in facilitating
00:40:01.400
violence against ICE agents. And she should also announce the firing of, uh, James Comey's son-in-law,
00:40:07.280
Marine Comey's husband. The, the, uh, ICE thing is obviously huge as these other ones are too.
00:40:14.100
Let me ask you, you have, just walk the audience through, you have political appointees and we have
00:40:18.520
4,000. I think you get a thousand that has to be Senate confirmed, but you get 4,000 that can hit
00:40:23.080
the deck place running. They are vetted. Okay. Most of these are not political appointees. It
00:40:29.600
sounds like they're, they're, they're supposed to be vetted. I think obviously you have an issue
00:40:36.440
with the vetting process for what we call the politicals, right? You don't think it's done
00:40:41.000
well enough. In fact, you took down, I think six, uh, members of the national security council and
00:40:46.680
pretty senior positions because they weren't vetted. And your vetting is about associations.
00:40:51.620
They've had their social media, et cetera. Is that what you look for?
00:40:55.060
And the NSA director and the NSA director as well. Yeah. Look, they, my question is, is we saw the
00:41:05.020
intel agencies get weaponized against president Trump. And I don't understand why the media had
00:41:09.400
to, you know, go in another OCD meltdown. Oh my God, Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer.
00:41:14.020
They're just, you know, they're so obsessed with every single time I put out a report
00:41:17.760
referring for somebody to be fired. Well, my question is, how come the Biden holdovers
00:41:22.060
and the Obama holdovers are still in the administration? We saw that they weaponized
00:41:26.360
the intel agencies. They spied on Donald Trump. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is a fact
00:41:30.940
crossfire hurricane. I mean, hello. Why would you want anybody who has an allegiance to Joe Biden or
00:41:36.580
Barack Hussein Obama serving in this administration or anybody who passed their so-called vetting? We know
00:41:42.040
that in order to work for Biden or Obama, you had to hate Trump or you had to hate Republicans.
00:41:46.320
You have to hate this country. I wouldn't say that any of the people that work for them in senior
00:41:51.320
intel or national security positions love this country because if they had any concern or regard
00:41:56.380
for our national security, they would have told Joe Biden to close the damn border and to not allow
00:42:01.680
25 million criminal illegal aliens, many of whom are criminal, wanted Islamic jihadist terrorists on
00:42:08.700
the national terror watch list to come into our country. So these people never spoke out about the
00:42:14.880
national security threat that Joe Biden was creating for our country. So of course they should be
00:42:19.560
fired. They are unfit. Anybody who has any sympathy to Joe Biden or has any type of allegiance to
00:42:26.100
the Obama administration or the Biden administration should absolutely be terminated. We need to have
00:42:32.440
loyalty tests. There needs to be purity tests in this administration. Obama did it. Biden did it.
00:42:38.300
They fired everybody who worked for Trump because of J6. If you recall, why can't Trump have loyalty
00:42:43.580
tests and purity tests? Why not? Every other administration has purity tests. Why can't
00:42:50.420
And show as a fact, this is the whole reason they're going to, I think, release today more,
00:42:55.320
they're going to declassify certain emails around Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Comey, Brennan,
00:43:02.080
all of it. This is this entire investigation, this criminal conspiracy that John Solomon keeps
00:43:07.020
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Okay, we just had a little drama on the floor of the Senate. Cory Booker went ballistic. I think
00:45:10.520
this is on the vote of Emil Boeve went ballistic. And the entire, all the Democrat senators walked
00:45:17.300
out, I think, before the vote. Doesn't mean the vote's not going to take place. They all walked out
00:45:20.580
in a dramatic movement. We're going to have that at the top of the hour to play for you.
00:45:25.040
Laura Loomer, this whole, what you just talked about, this whole series of trying to stop President
00:45:29.800
Trump from getting in office in the summer and fall of 16, then the entire nullification project
00:45:34.900
of the Mueller investigation, Brennan, Comey, all of them leading up to also things like the
00:45:42.920
perfect phone call, the impeachment, the election, maybe a 2020, J6, all of it. They're talking
00:45:48.440
now. They may appoint, they're working behind the scenes to see if it's appropriate to appoint
00:45:52.080
a special counsel on that. Your thoughts, since many of the scalps that you're going after
00:45:57.680
are people that were associated with some of those efforts, ma'am?
00:46:02.820
Look, it's absolutely necessary. This was a campaign promise. So absolutely, they have
00:46:07.060
to do this. President Trump said that they were going to get accountability, and he promised
00:46:10.980
as part of his Agenda 47 to go after weaponized government and to crack down on the weaponization
00:46:18.540
of the intel agency. So naturally, in order to fulfill that campaign promise, you have to appoint
00:46:23.380
a special counsel to investigate these people, because there's a lot of people that need to
00:46:28.180
go to jail. We can't just keep talking about it. People need to start going to jail. We
00:46:32.040
need to take the handcuffs out and start dragging people to jail. We need to start having conversations
00:46:36.500
about military tribunals and charging people for treason with the appropriate punishment for
00:46:42.560
treason. So we have laws in this country for a reason. And some of these people, Steve,
00:46:47.760
I'm sure you would agree with me, are guilty of committing treason.
00:46:53.380
There's no doubt. I think we have to have a formal process to adjudicate. Do you also
00:46:58.340
think that that special counsel should take on this situation with the Epstein material
00:47:03.220
to make sure it's all handled appropriately? Because all this discussion about what you
00:47:08.020
can release, what you can't release, or do you think a separate special counsel should
00:47:14.600
I mean, the weaponization of the intel agencies and the weaponization of government against President
00:47:19.420
Trump is so big in its own that I think that it should be a separate special counsel just
00:47:24.380
for the sake of keeping everything separate. Look, this is dragging on. And President Trump,
00:47:30.080
when he said it was a hoax, he's not saying that this whole situation is a hoax. Obviously,
00:47:34.840
it's not a hoax because, well, Ghislaine Maxwell is currently sitting in a prison cell for 20 years
00:47:40.080
in Florida for her activities with Jeffrey Epstein, who is a convicted child sex predator.
00:47:44.940
What President Trump meant when he said that this was a hoax is that it's starting to consume the
00:47:50.780
presidency. Every single day during the first term, it was Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia,
00:47:54.220
Russia, Stormy Daniels, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We don't need every single day
00:47:58.680
the media to ignore all of the amazing things that President Trump is doing. You have yesterday
00:48:03.640
cracking down on fentanyl, the lowest numbers of illegal alien crossings into our country in a
00:48:08.760
decade. So many things, all these great trade deals, you name it, every single day President Trump
00:48:13.720
is winning on behalf of the American people to make America great again. So appoint a special
00:48:18.480
counsel and let's move on. I don't want to talk about Epstein every single day. I want to talk
00:48:22.560
about other things and have a special counsel investigate this. And also, Pam Blondie should
00:48:27.640
apologize for lying to the American people. I think an apology would go a long way. Clearly,
00:48:33.120
she got so obsessed and so in love with seeing herself on Fox News, loving all the media attention,
00:48:39.300
that she said things that were clearly not true. So she needs to apologize for lying or for getting
00:48:45.620
ahead of herself and misspeaking. Whether she wants to say she lied or she wants to say she misspoke,
00:48:52.080
I don't care. She needs to apologize because she has created an embarrassment and also a PR crisis for
00:48:58.220
the President of the United States. And now people are talking about how they're not going to support
00:49:02.120
the President and they're not going to show up to vote in the midterms. Totally insane.
00:49:06.000
We're not going to throw the baby out with the backwater. We have 3.5 years left. Donald Trump
00:49:11.060
is great. He's fulfilling all of his campaign promises. And look, I wanted Pam Blondie fired.
00:49:17.100
I did. I said it on day one. But he's not firing her. So let's move on. Appoint a special counsel.
00:49:22.940
And please, let's talk about other things so we don't have to say Speaker Hakeem Jeffries next November.
00:49:29.380
Laura, where do people go on social media to follow you? You are on fire, ma'am.
00:49:33.760
You can follow me on X at Laura Loomer and also at Loomer Unleashed. We have exclusive reports and
00:49:41.660
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And also, you can subscribe to my sub stack, lauraloomer.substack.com.
00:49:55.000
Laura, thank you very much for coming on. I appreciate you.
00:49:59.740
We'll get the Senate thing at the top of the hour. I want to get Rachel Bovard. Rachel,
00:50:04.600
you wrote an amazing piece for the Federalists. With everything that's going on, now it's coming
00:50:08.400
to the forefront of this vast criminal conspiracy. They may, they're looking for a special counsel
00:50:13.680
to get the whole thing and make sure the Justice Department's overwhelmed, doesn't have to spend
00:50:18.300
time on it. But you wrote a piece and saying, hey, folks, we may have one of the biggest scandals in
00:50:24.900
the history of this republic. It's definitely the biggest scandal of the 21st century, according to
00:50:29.660
you, on really a coup by his own staff on Biden, on the autopend. Can you walk us through why people
00:50:36.620
respect your opinion very highly? Why is Rachel Bovard saying this is one of the most important
00:50:41.680
things before us, ma'am? Well, you had, you know, under the guise of an elected presidency,
00:50:48.280
a, I want to say criminal syndicate almost, running the White House to the extent that they were abusing
00:50:55.500
the pardon authority of the president of the United States. It is unclear even by Joe Biden's own
00:51:00.360
admission if he knew about any of the pardons that he was signing, the thousands of pardons he issued
00:51:07.420
outside of his son, Hunter Biden, which he told the New York Times, yes, I approved, you know, that
00:51:13.440
particular pardon. It is unclear if he had any idea or was even mentally incompetent enough to know
00:51:20.020
that the staff were acting on his behalf. And the more that comes out about this, the more it's clear
00:51:25.140
that it was a cadre of staff, a syndicate of staff that were making these decisions. And that is,
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I mean, it goes to the point of a democratic republic. We elect a person, we expect that person to be making
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these decisions of consequence, to be using the authority vested in him by the constitution,
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not outsourcing issues of this magnitude to this group of staff. And it calls into question
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a host of decisions that were made by this president throughout the presidency, who was
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actually calling the shots here. Hang on, I want to hold you through the top of the hour.
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This is quite important. We used to argue this during the time, like who's actually governing us
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and what decisions are being made, particularly around national security and being commander in chief.
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Rachel Bovard's with us. We're going to take a short commercial break. We'll be back in a moment.
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Mike Grunewald with a new book out about, I guess it's about make America healthy again.
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You are what you eat. And is that going to have a massive, massive problem with the global environment?
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He's got a book that argues it might. And then Alex Jones is going to join us also.
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if all else fails to get your title back. Short break. Rachel Bovard on the other side.
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