WarRoom Battleground EP 491: Motorhome Prophecies
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Summary
In the first episode of our new podcast, we take a deep dive into one of the most controversial cases in American history: the case of a man accused of stealing and destroying millions of dollars worth of classified documents, and why no one has been charged.
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the white house question mr president why did you share classified information with your ghost
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writer the president i did not share classified information i did not share it i guarantee i did
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not that's not true is it mr hurd that is inconsistent with the findings based on the
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evidence in my report yes it's a lie it's just what regular people would say right
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yeah all right so the next one and all the stuff that was in my home was in filing cabinets
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that were either locked or able to be locked that wasn't true either was it that was inconsistent
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with the findings of our investigation another lie people might say right because what you put in
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your report was among the places mr biden's lawyers found classified documents in the garage was a
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damaged open box so here's what i'm what i'm understanding right as mr armstrong laid out
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you find in your report that the elements of a federal criminal violation are met but then you
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apply this senile cooperator theory that because joe biden cooperated and the elevator doesn't go
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to the top floor you don't think you get a conviction and i actually think you get to the
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right answer in that i don't think biden should have been charged don't think trump should have
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been charged but under like the senile cooperator theory isn't it frustrating that biden continues
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to go out and lie about the basic facts of the report that lay out a federal criminal violation
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congressman i need to disagree with at least one thing that you said which is that i found that the
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all of the elements were met one of the elements of the relevant mishandling statute is the intent
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element and what my report reflects is my judgment that based on the evidence i would not be able to
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prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury that that intent element had right but the reason you have
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that doubt is the is the senile cooperator theory the fact that joe biden is so inept in responding
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that you can't prove the intent which again i don't quibble with that conclusion but it's frustrating
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to be like oh well this guy's not getting treated the same way as trump because the elevator's not
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going to the top floor so we can't prove intent while at the same time biden goes out there at the
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white house and says well you know he just he just he just blatantly lies and what i'm trying to figure
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out is whether or not biden's lying because he's still so senile he hasn't read your report or whether
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it's a little craftier and a little more devious and perhaps a little more intentional than we might
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otherwise think so i also want to go to this biden pen center like did you did it give concern to you
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that the biden pen center where all this classified stuff was being mishandled was being floated by
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foreign governments congressman we were concerned with getting the bottom of all of the classified
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documents that were recovered during the course of like what bothers me is that the money that was
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paying for the place where the documents were being inappropriately held it was the chinese and
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it was other foreign countries that did that play into your analysis did you did you look into the
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billion dollars in foreign funding sources at the biden center at upenn for example congressman we
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conducted a thorough impartial and fair investigation and we were very very concerned with getting to the
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bottom of all the relevant questions relating to the recovered did you look into the fact that the
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chinese were floating the place where this guy was keeping the documents unsecure yes or no congressman
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to the extent that we identified evidence that was relevant and significant to our investigation we put
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it in our report okay well it seemed relevant to me maybe not to you another thing that seemed relevant
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to me is this ghostwriter right so the ghostwriter purposefully deletes this evidence that seems to be
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like show culpability of biden's crimes and you don't charge him why did you not charge the ghostwriter
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with obstructing justice and deleting evidence well for a number of reasons that are laid out in the
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report but in brief congressman yes uh when we when we interviewed the ghostwriter what he did tell us
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and i'm trying to get the exact language that one of the things on his mind one of the things he was
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aware of was that i had been appointed special counsel and was conducting an investigation so so he
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didn't just so everybody knows the ghostwriter didn't delete the recordings just as a matter of
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happenstance ghostwriter has recordings of biden making admissions of of crimes he then learns that
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you've been appointed he then deletes the information that is the evidence and you don't charge him
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that is reflected in the report and one of the reasons like what does somebody have to do to get
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charged with obstruction of justice by you if like deleting the evidence of crimes doesn't count
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what would meet the standard so congressman as we as we uh state in the relevant chapter of the report
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one of the things that mr swanitzer did not delete was transcripts of the recordings that he had
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created that included inculpatory evidence relating to mr oh so if you if you destroy some evidence but
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not other evidence that somehow absolves you of the evidence you destroy like here's what i see
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swaniger should have been charged wasn't biden and trump should have been treated equally they weren't
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and that is the double standard that i think a lot of americans are concerned about 231 you said this
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president biden had strong motivations that's a key word we're getting a motive now president biden had
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strong motivations to ignore the proper procedures for safeguarding the classified information in his
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notebooks why did he have strong motivations because you next word because he decided months before
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leaving office to write a book to write a book that was his motive he knew the rules he broke them
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because he was writing a book and you further say and he began meeting with the ghost writer
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while he was still vice president there's the motive mr hur how much did president biden get paid for his book
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off the top of my head i'm not sure if that information appears in the report sure does there's a dollar
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amount in there you remember i don't it it may be eight million if eight million dollars joe biden had
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eight million reasons to break the rules took classified information and shared it with the guy
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who was writing the book that's why he did he knew the rules but he broke them before eight million
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dollars in a book advance but you know what wasn't just the money joe biden here's this page 231 very
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next page joe biden in your report joe biden viewed his notebooks as an irreplaceable contemporaneous
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record of the most important moments of his vice presidency he'd written this all down for the book
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for the eight million dollars and the next thing you say in your report is quote such a record
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would buttress his legacy as a world leader you know what this is it wasn't just the money it wasn't
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pride and money is why he knowingly violated the rules
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you agree with that mr her you wrote it in your report
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that language and it does appear in the report and we did identify evidence supporting those uh
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those assessments you also had another interesting statement in your report you said joe biden
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i want to make sure i get this right viewed himself as a man of presidential timber remember that
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statement mr her i believe that does appear in the report at least in the executive summary
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i think this is interesting because here's the scary part page 200 i said this earlier in my opening
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statement page 200 joe biden this is a quote joe biden risked serious damage to america's national
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security when he shared information with his ghost rider shared it with his ghost rider the guy who was
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helping joe biden get eight million dollars and oh by the way mr her what did that ghost rider
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do with the information joe biden shared with him on his laptop what did he do after you were named
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special counsel chairman if you're referring to the audio recordings that mr zwanitzer created
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of his conversations with exactly what i'm referring to he uh he slid if i remember correctly
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he slid those files into his uh recycle bin on his computer tried to try to destroy the evidence
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didn't he correct the very guy who was helping joe biden get the eight million dollars eight million
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dollars joe biden had used the motive for joe biden to to disclose classified information to retain
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classified information which he definitely knew was against the law when you get named special
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counsel what's that guy do he destroys the evidence that's the key takeaway in my mind that's the key
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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stephen k bannon okay tuesday 12 march year of our lord 2024 just a couple of the highlights of course
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in the previous hour our five o'clock hour went through it in more depth uh but i want to put out
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there that you're seeing the crumbling of the lawfare case the angle of attack that's where they're going
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now to the dictatorship that's why raskin and elias have come up with this idea since lawfare's
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crumbling that they're going to fight for the house to take the majority in the house even if
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it's by one seat two seats because they've already told us they're they're not going to certify trump's
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election on january 6 of 2025 they're not going to certify that's them 57 of of democrats who will
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vote likely vote is 57 according to rasmussen have said we support that so lace them up tight and lace
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them up high ladies and gentlemen this is going to be a fight every day what is 237 and a wake up i
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think it's 237 and a wake up it's going to get intense and hard and uh we're going to be more
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relentless remember it's uh it's going to be last man or woman standing on this one you see today
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explosive uh testimony uh great questioning started off a little slow but uh but got into it of course the
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great matt gates there obviously and jim jordan more about that also tomorrow and uh want to thank
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everybody that helped put the five o'clock hour together so we could drill down even more on this
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uh i want to shift it up a little bit uh for a second carrie sheffield joins us now the audience
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you know carrie as a as a one of the fighters always the tip of the spear has been out there on these
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issues particularly uh men and women's sports other issues about women but she's a fighter across the
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board i've known her for a long time but uh and carrie maybe we get into this talk about mental health
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and you're you're about biden's state of the union and and the mental health issues out there and then
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i want to get into this new i guess autobiography or memoir of yours uh motorhome prophecies which i've
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known you for a long time but i didn't know any of this just say to say the least to say i was shocked
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is an understatement um talk to me about mental health because earlier today in the morning show i talked
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about you know ralph reed has got this huge effort 62 million dollars to go out and get uh low engagement
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um you know low voter participation low information evangelicals and traditional catholics he thinks
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there's another net eight million votes out there for president trump but also to turn out the tens of
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millions that are registered and vote on occasions because this is going to be a base plus election on the
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other hand we talked about how the democrats are looking to win if they can't beat trump head on to win
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the house and then to not uh certify the election which they're bragging about this is uh uh this is
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jamie raskin and and others the mark elias's of the world and we noted that taylor this whole fight
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over tiktok which they had the classified as we talked about earlier in the earlier hour they had
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the classified hearing today this is a tiktok combined with taylor swift taylor swift is quite obvious
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her her concerts start stop august 20th they don't pick back up until mid-november it's the biggest gap
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she's going to have and what has been the biggest most successful music tour in music history
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um and you know her um low engagement uh low propensity low information of voters combined with
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tiktok could be a deciding factor here you know she said she wasn't going to get involved in politics
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she was involved in 22 actually came out made some uh some endorsements said she wasn't going to get
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involved uh here um uh recently and she was uh and she called out uh i guess in 20 she got she made
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endorsements in 22 at the last second she came out and on super tuesday she came out and said um and
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said no excuse me at 22 she was gave endorsement and then at the uh super tuesday she came at the
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last second and said everybody go vote go get engaged etc so a big issue for them is obviously mental
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health talk to me about what is your criticism about biden i think they've made it a a pretty
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big priority at least i see it as a big priority i think i think some of it is overblown you clearly
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don't so walk me through your your theory of the case here before we get into your memoir
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oh oh i'm so sorry i'm muted um steve thanks for having me i just want to acknowledge that you said
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you were shocked so i i'm shocked that i could shock steve bannon um but uh no no no hold it hold
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it hold it hold it hang on hang on hang on we get into the part the personal part the audience will
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be shocked so i know it's hard to shock me i was i was gobsmacked i wasn't sure i was gobsmacked i
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was beyond shocked but we'll get to that in a second tell me what do you know i think i think they've
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made it a priority of mental health and i think a lot of the mental health is quite frankly overblown i
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think it's we've treated these some of these kids too softly they're too protected they can't face
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the real world but you've got a different theory of the case here well i do agree with you that it
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is overblown but i also know having experienced mental illness in my family which i know we'll get
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to that it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy if you will the more anxiety you feel the more mentally
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ill you feel the more it snowballs and so you are the things you're talking about it's you know
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psyops basically psychological operations uh designed to invoke anxiety designed to within
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social media and the algorithms for young women for example to create i mean the wall street journal
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reported how instagram executives knew that instagram was causing mental illness among young girls by
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feeding them content that encouraged eating disorders body insecurity uh and then online there's a huge
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problem with bullying among young people and teenagers both young boys and young girls so there is a lot of
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uh stirring the pot to create this horrible situation where people's mental health is under assault
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i personally believe it's a form of spiritual warfare and that's where i think you and i would be in
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alignment in the sense of this is something much deeper than just a partisan fight um that it is really a
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cultural fight and so i think that the the idea that there is a mental health crisis is true in the
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sense that you look at for example the suicide rate of gen z women so the young women today college age
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it's almost double the suicide rate of gen x women when they were college age so something's going on
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that young women and then also in 2022 which is the most recent data we have from cdc take it however you
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will um they found that women ages 25 to 34 that's one of the fastest growing demographics of suicide as
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well so that's prime childbearing years and then the depression rate is the highest it's been since 1941
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so i think the mental health crisis is real however i do think that in many respects it's actually
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self-created and it's self-sabotaging by a lot of these really toxic not only online but also just the
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overall rejection of god and that's something i get into in the book quite a bit about the scientific
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evidence that belief in god religious participation faith community is strongly associated with
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suicide prevention less opioid deaths less alcohol addiction deaths there's so much scientific
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evidence for that and yet this was the kicker the most atheist profession according to harvard among
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they've surveyed all their professors the two most atheist professorships are biologists and psychologists
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so it's this toxic combination of the psychiatric and psychological industry is deeply hostile to god
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which is literally a life-saving force you think that you think the uh the techno feudalism which is
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this new term of the techno feudalism is driving this because this is one of the fights over tiktok
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also i mean it's an information warfare weapon but there's all types of analysis and data just like
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you said the others to show that particularly young women but also young men too but particularly young
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women are susceptible to all these images and this lifestyle they put out there they get depressed
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particularly if their parents are not religious or there's not a religious experience in their home
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uh but what is going to stop this how do we how do we actually thwart this besides the spiritual warfare
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of making sure that we're nurturing the families and the families are the unit that we we focus on and
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we're going to have kelly walker join us here in a second and talk about that how do we combat this how do we
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use policy to actually show these kids that we're standing up for them instead of just you know patting them on the head
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this is terrible and let's put more money to mental health how do we actually stop them
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from being abused like this because to me this is child abuse yeah it is and i know there's been some
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effort in texas and utah and some other states at a policy level to put heavy restrictions on social
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media use among minors because the first amendment freedom of speech i support that but for children the
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rules are different for minors the rules are different everything's different when you're a minor
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versus you're an adult so i think the toxicity of the products being used on young children's brains
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is is a big problem and i think that's something that can be changed at a policy level and addressed
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at a policy level i think also and i'm glad your next guest is going to be talking about how to push
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back at a policy level in the schools because the the school counselors the school psychologists
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they're they're they're muck deep in this in terms of embracing rejecting god rejecting um uh faith
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community rejecting purpose and meaning and traditional values traditional families so having
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counselors and i and i know in texas there's a fight on the ground there where they were trying to
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allow chaplains to uh be in schools or i think they i think they went a little too far where i think they
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were trying to replace them all together um but i think having clergy in schools to allow spiritual
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counseling to children i think that's great um and so i think there are things you can do also in terms
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of i mean my book i don't know if you want to get into that now or how much time we have but um i've got
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a copy here and today is actually the launch day so here's here's the cover of motor and prophecies
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um the the uh there it is right there thank you um the backstory on this with my memoir and the
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reason i'm so passionate about all these issues of mental health is because unfortunately in my family
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we've struggled with mental health for decades now my father was raped by a hold on hang yeah yeah
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hang on a second because i want to tee this up because people know carrie sheffield that comes on
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the show and out in professional life like you've just presented hard tough boom these are the facts
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here's how it is i'm a fighter i'm not going to back down uh the story about to tell i i don't
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understand why you're not an axe murderer because it's one of the most horrific stories i've ever heard
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so i mean i'm serious when i heard that i said it can't be the carrie sheffield that i know it comes
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on the show she's the nicest calmest tough fighter you know very classy uh always uh you know
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appropriate walk through the story of that you're telling the book that is besides all the great
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things you do on mental health and the stats you put out and come back to religion this is worth the
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purchase of the book itself walk through your life story oh thanks steve uh well yeah i i like to say
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all those things you talk about in my political career that's the resume stuff you know similar to
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yours i worked at goldman sachs you did too i went to harvard you did too i got my master's in the
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kennedy school you were at the business school those are all the resume things um i also worked
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at moody's investor service i was a former bond analyst and then doing my political debating going
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on talk shows i used to host a show here on real america's voice i know i get fan notes even a few
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years out since leaving um but that's all the resume stuff and this book i like to call it my anti-resume
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stuff or this shadow resume it's all that stuff that i've been hiding because i just didn't know
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how to talk about it there was so much shame around the way that i was raised um with my family and so i
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finally just reached a point where you know what i can't i need to be clean with myself to understand
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this trauma that i it's intergenerational trauma and you know the bible talks about the sins being
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passed down from generation to generation that's really what this book is about is about intergenerational
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trauma and the title is motorhome prophecies because i have seven biological siblings and so
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the eight kids and my two parents all 10 of us spent a lot of our my childhood and just our childhoods
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living in a motorhome so 10 people living in a motorhome my mother gave birth to my brother when
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the family didn't even have a motorhome the family was living in a tent so i've lived in tents i've lived in
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when i took my act exam we were living in a shed in the ozarks with no running water we had to have it
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pumped in with a green pipe and the um the experience we also had houses too that was the
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crazy part is like we would careen between normal existence public schools and then back to the motorhome
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homeschool so i ended up going to 17 public schools and homeschool and all over the country just very
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transient and the reason why is because my father's mentally ill it was a combination of
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extreme musical gifting so i don't know if any of your viewers are familiar with andres segovia he was
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one of the world's greatest classical guitarists he was knighted by the king of spain he has an
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asteroid named after him he had 10 honorary doctorates a lifetime grammy achievement award he had selected my
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father to be one of his musical protégés and so then you also had my father had childhood sexual
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assault he was raped by a mormon babysitter so my ancestors helped found the mormon church
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and then you have his interpretation of mormon theology i make a clear distinction between the
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things my dad did and the official lds church um even though theologically i'm not aligned with the
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lds church anymore i don't believe it's a cult but i do believe what my father did was a cult so
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basically my father said um and he was excommunicated from the lds church he said i'm a prophet i will
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become president someday and in order to fulfill this prophetic call i'm going to play my amazing
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world-class level guitar music on tree corners and pass out brochures and try to convert them to be mormon
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um and then as we grew older he assigned each of my you know all eight of us all seven siblings and
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myself instruments so i grew up playing the violin and the oboe playing classical music on street
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corners trying to convert people to be mormon and patriotic quotes as well in this brochure so it was
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pretty wild it was very gypsy um and for a long time i was hostile to god because our dad was physically
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emotionally um just spiritually abusive he would say we were evil he uh at one point we had to eat grass
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because we didn't have food um from the city park we boiled it in this little broth with um these
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little cubes bullion cubes um we were on welfare we were on church welfare from the lds church and it
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was just so much instability and he said it was all god's will well it was so much stress and trauma that
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eventually two of my brothers developed schizophrenia and the older of the two groped me and tried to
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rape me um and it was traumatizing i was 17 and so by the time i was 18 i said to my dad you know i i
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want to go away to college i don't feel safe here i don't think i don't think you're a prophet um i
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my loyalty is to the lds prophet not you you're you're a rogue prophet basically is what i said um and
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he raised his hand to the square and he said i prophesy in the name of jesus you'll be raped and murdered if
00:25:16.120
you leave and to have your own father speak that over you was very damaging for me spiritually and
00:25:24.200
emotionally because eventually it created this really anger toward god um and i think i think
00:25:30.040
what's happened in my life is i see it happening at a macro level within a lot of young people where
00:25:35.320
there is abuse happening in religious settings from pedophilia in the catholic church to you know
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embezzling money and you know women being sexually abused in other denominations so
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it's there and so people see that and they're repulsed and so they walk away but i make the
00:25:51.960
case over and over in the book that that's actually not god it's like saying if you hear a really bad
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symphony being played beethoven's fifth you don't blame beethoven you blame the musicians for how they
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are interpreting and displaying this genius of beethoven um so anyway the book i get into like i said
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um how eventually i was able to forgive him and um but it was it was largely through my conversion
00:26:17.640
after 12 years as an agnostic um to the christian faith and through that walk i was able to forgive
00:26:23.960
him release that anger but it was it was very difficult i tell you what carrie hang on for one
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the capital markets talk to the pros carrie how did you i know how hard it is to get into harvard
00:31:56.200
it's actually gotten harder harder since i got out how did you go to 17 public schools and get into
00:32:01.640
harvard well it was a lot uh as i said my father disowned me when i said i want to go away to college
00:32:09.640
i'm fifth in the birth order but the first girl and first to leave and i basically had no safety
00:32:16.440
net i had to work my way i worked as a janitor i worked at taco bell and i got five internships
00:32:22.440
by the time i graduated my undergrad and i was basically i had nowhere to go during summer
00:32:27.880
breaks or christmas breaks and so i threw myself into my work and so that's really how i did it was
00:32:32.520
through working really hard and honestly trying to prove my dad wrong he said i prophesy in the name
00:32:37.640
of jesus you'll be raped and murdered if you leave my cult and i said you know what screw that i'm
00:32:42.280
going to work really hard and i'm going to get i'm going to intern for newsweek magazine i'm going to
00:32:45.560
intern for robert novak i'm going to do all these things with my journalism career and i went too far
00:32:51.320
in the sense that i was so angry at him that i i let my anger fuel me for negativity and i repressed a
00:32:57.000
lot but it did also give me that motivation that drive to get into harvard
00:33:00.920
uh carrie where can people go to get all your writings uh social media and where they
00:33:07.320
particularly go to get this book because i know every page will rock you as you read it where they
00:33:12.200
go thanks steve i'm sure i'm carrie sheffield.com again the title here is motorhome prophecies the
00:33:18.920
journey of healing and forgiveness um you can get it wherever you buy your books i love my local
00:33:24.760
independent bookstores so do that um it's also on all the big sellers um barnes and noble and books
00:33:31.320
a million and amazon and wherever wherever the big ones are as well uh carrie thank you so much
00:33:39.960
shocking book but uh well worth the read thank you so much and thank you for fighting for the
00:33:44.520
american family thank you steve carrie sheffield a fighter another fighter kelly walker kelly so you're
00:33:52.920
fighting on this in a different way you're also worried about the family the schools our children
00:33:57.480
all of it tell us about what this fight and this coalition you put together absolutely steve as you
00:34:02.280
know there's been a war on parents and we've seen a lot of that in the school boards what we haven't
00:34:06.760
seen a lot of is what's happened from washington dc on down and what the national school board association
00:34:12.360
did so i've put together a coalition of parenting group leaders some parents constitutional attorneys
00:34:21.000
gosh republic figures and it's based on what the government's done to parents we've had parents
00:34:27.800
like jennifer mahuda in saurita arizona who was put into prison for five days to quote unquote teach
00:34:33.800
her a lesson they handcuffed her her husband and their 16 year old daughter shoved them into police
00:34:38.920
cars and what was her crime her crime was she wanted documentation as to why her her healthy child
00:34:45.560
was quarantined i discovered that i this um national school board association memo which was written on
00:34:53.480
september 29th 2021 precipitated the october 4th merrick garland memo designating parents as domestic
00:35:01.320
terrorists i found foiaed emails that showed that within the nsba they said this was inappropriate
00:35:09.000
uh that communication issues plague the nsba and they had to backpedal on that however parents like
00:35:17.880
me i was sentenced to 100 days in jail pima county stole ten thousand dollars out of our tucson home
00:35:23.720
sale and i discovered in writing a mag an article for george magazine that i was in fact the first parent
00:35:30.280
targeted the only one specifically mentioned and i thought my experience was somewhat unique until i started
00:35:36.760
to see what was happening across the country and i started to have parents tell me their stories
00:35:42.440
and in spite of the fact that mary garland and the nsba had to backtrack and said that this letter 14
00:35:51.400
attorneys general sent a letter after the mary garland memo calling this nsba memo a massive fraud against
00:35:58.520
the american people and while they backtracked on it there are people who've gone to prison they've been
00:36:03.880
fined they've been harassed and this continues and it's all based on a fraudulent supposition
00:36:14.920
are you comfortable given your experience at kind of the deck plate levels at the school boards and
00:36:20.120
what you've seen of other people and particularly i know your experience is a little bit arizona centric
00:36:25.160
are you comfortable that at the federal level particularly with this budget that the that there was a hard
00:36:31.000
enough fight to take you out you know russ vote always talks about trying to get the woke and
00:36:34.360
weaponized out of this uh are you comfortable that either doj and that's all coming up on the 22nd the
00:36:41.320
reason i'm teeing this up is that there's still a chance to get another bite of the apple but are you
00:36:45.400
comfortable either at the fbi or the doj or even at department of education that the the house members
00:36:52.360
that are republicans have heard the kind of cry for help of of your coalition and others around the
00:36:58.840
country and take this seriously that this hat at one level has to be confronted at the federal level
00:37:04.200
particularly what's been going on with law enforcement working hand in glove on some of the stuff
00:37:09.480
i am uh lawfare's been waged against parents i'm i'm one of the top because i was the first parent
00:37:15.480
who was exposed to it but i sent uh an email out around july early july to several members of congress
00:37:24.280
and i got a response immediately from several of them including jim jordan's office they put together
00:37:30.280
teams of their staff to look into this and since july i've been giving them information
00:37:35.560
testimonials of other parents details of my situation so they're already working on it
00:37:40.360
they're already investigating it and that's precipitated this meeting which i'm uh very very
00:37:46.760
much looking forward to and paul gosar's chief of staff already said we're going to put this forward
00:37:51.960
for a committee meeting and i spoke to paul gosar at an event that you and i both steve were at new
00:37:57.080
jersey last year and paul gosar expressed deep concern over this he said he wants to hunt down
00:38:02.360
and find the people who've done this to parents so this is something that's unfinished business i know
00:38:08.280
that it's of deep concern to paul gosar andy ogles of tennessee eli crane uh andy andy biggs and uh
00:38:17.400
jim jordan among others and i understand there are other members of congress coming on board with
00:38:22.120
this with deep concern about what's been done to parents and families i mean this has been a nightmare
00:38:26.680
for my family and they've tried to silence me they've uh stolen money that that we needed against
00:38:32.840
the uh arizona homesteading act they had no right to take that money uh it that taking that money prevented
00:38:39.160
me from being able to appeal because we have finite resources but the more they've done to stop me
00:38:45.080
the more i've pressed in on this i've been working on this for years and we've got
00:38:49.000
mom army dad army america's mom moms for liberty it gave us a quote for my george magazine article
00:38:55.560
we've got law enforcement officers who are honest who've seen what's happened one in particular in
00:39:00.360
pima arizona he was asked by john carruth the superintendent of vale schools to profile me and
00:39:06.680
watch me before i ever stepped foot in the the first school board meeting i went to and his office's
00:39:12.680
responses were not was were not the soviet union so this is not only this is grassroots this is
00:39:20.200
parents like jennifer mahuda who've been traumatized by this really didn't want to come forward but
00:39:25.560
we've provided a means uh seek smith from mom army and dad army uh put together a form online form where
00:39:32.440
you can submit your complaints so not only are they concerned about it they've been doing something
00:39:37.480
about it i've talked with eli crane a great deal about this he knows my story of being arrested
00:39:43.000
twice for for speaking out for trying to protect my family and our community
00:39:50.120
do you think that because obviously people like you they're using that as an example to to put fear
00:39:56.040
into everybody else right they want to put fear in them that hey if you step up and try to do it you
00:40:00.440
end up like kelly walker in your situation with the school have have it's has the situation changed at
00:40:06.600
all in other words all the suffering you guys are going through the the economic deprivation all
00:40:11.400
that i understand you're working with congress on one level but do you think it's actually changed
00:40:15.720
at the local level has your fight uh resulted in any change that you're comfortable with or happy with
00:40:23.560
well one of the main things is awareness and people getting alongside that coming alongside this
00:40:28.840
you know i i've even talked to to sam sorbo kevin sorbo others i've gone to a lot of meetings
00:40:34.600
on my own dime flown around the country to raise awareness for this and that that awareness is
00:40:39.480
happening and first and foremost we need to expose these people and what they did we need to reveal
00:40:44.440
the foyer emails that are out there saying exactly what happened that this was a huge mistake it was a
00:40:50.840
fraud against the american people jim jordan said in a an interim report from the subcommittee on the
00:40:58.040
weaponization of the u.s government he said that the letter and subsequent memo had a quote chilling effect
00:41:03.400
on free speech and what that means is that it caused people to be afraid so yes people have seen
00:41:09.240
what they've done to me it's caused them to be afraid but they've also looked at me and this group
00:41:14.120
is using my situation as sort of a case study they've looked at me as a champion for what they're going
00:41:19.080
through because some of them have felt like hey whatever we do nobody cares nobody's going to do anything
00:41:24.040
about this like a a mother and the children's book author being put in county prison for five days
00:41:31.720
i mean she went in courageously but she came out traumatized so yes my family's been through a a
00:41:38.440
great deal harassment lawfare doxing threats to our lives threats to kill my children to rape my wife
00:41:46.040
and and i'm telling you it's very difficult but i am committed to seeing this through because i'm not the
00:41:51.880
only parent and this is still going on under this presumption which has been proven false that
00:41:57.320
somehow parents concerned parents are domestic terrorists it's a huge attack on parents and
00:42:01.880
families and these people from washington dc down to the local level need to be held to account these
00:42:08.920
parents need an apology they need restitution of what they lost the whole premise of this is false
00:42:14.360
so any court cases any convictions need to be overturned because it was based on that chilling effect
00:42:19.160
when you when you say there's been the threats uh you've been doxed threats against your children
00:42:26.120
that's to rape your wife have you turned those over to law enforcement and have they taken any action
00:42:31.320
and if not why not i did and the fbi has been watching me since 2020 i've had i had them in my
00:42:37.160
coffee shop that we used to have in tucson they completely ignored it and yet the fbi has been
00:42:42.520
watching me for four years like i'm some terrorist i mean i have black and white threats to my life i have
00:42:48.440
letters that came in the mail saying i'm gonna tie you up and rape your wife and murder your kids
00:42:53.800
while you watch fbi did nothing nothing and i got convicted for sitting in a chair and speaking
00:43:01.480
and in the trial uh my lawyer asked did mr walker take a threatening step toward you no did he raise
00:43:06.600
his voice no no no no and then the prosecutor gets up and says well do you feel like mr walker could have
00:43:11.160
done that what what kind of injustice is that like parents are being threatened to be killed
00:43:18.920
doxed hate thrown at them business is ruined lives destroyed children you know this graphic shows you
00:43:27.720
that some of the letters that were received by me and other parents and my picture was posted around
00:43:33.000
tucson if not further calling me a nazi pig and a white supremacist uh you've seen toward the top
00:43:39.400
there that theresa cullen and the county health department and the sheriff's officer who did the
00:43:44.280
first false arrest on me for coming to the county board of supervisors they they've been watching us
00:43:50.200
one day we had a van with a bunch of antennas outside our coffee shop i mean it's been absolutely
00:43:55.240
ludicrous and what have i blown the whistle on i've blown the whistle on these covet policies
00:43:59.880
that caused to a demonstrable increase in youth suicide i mean we had people coming to our coffee shop
00:44:05.560
saying you gotta speak out for us because our kids are committing suicide they're creating a
00:44:11.080
two-class society they're forcing masks on kids they're isolating them keeping them out of school
00:44:15.960
and and look among many things i'm a scientist i was working for a national health care publication
00:44:20.520
when the lockdown started and i and i said what was true from the beginning this virus largely doesn't
00:44:27.560
affect kids it doesn't cause mortality except kids who are already very very sick
00:44:31.160
and i went to john carruth and the vale school district and i said hey these parents you know
00:44:37.240
you need to talk to them you need to hear their stories i had a young man send me over instagram
00:44:41.960
a letter that was he was prepared for this april 27 2021 school board meeting which by the way you
00:44:47.400
you covered back at that time and he wanted to explain to the school board how his friend had committed
00:44:53.480
suicide in the very gym where they were holding the later holding the school board meetings he jumped off
00:45:00.600
the bleachers onto his head a young man committed suicide shot himself in the head outside uh our
00:45:06.520
house in our neighborhood he's a trump supporter and we found that kids were targeted politically i mean
00:45:12.840
all of this was there i presented it you can look up the stats and instead of addressing it and sitting
00:45:18.680
down with these parents they demonized all these parents and what john carruth did was go to the
00:45:24.200
national school board association portray these parents as hostile over 200 parents showed up at that april 27th
00:45:30.680
board meeting which which by the way started in our coffee shop the day before a group of parents
00:45:35.000
got together and said we need we need to take this to the school board instead of being listened to
00:45:39.320
they were demonized and this went all the way up to washington dc it's amazing that in my research
00:45:44.920
i've discovered where this all started and we need to go back to that we need to go back to the premise
00:45:50.520
which caused so much suffering and persecution of parents and families and led to suicides i i had people
00:45:57.160
coming in our coffee shop we did uh freedom talk events i i have i created a platform freedom talk
00:46:02.840
dot uh real freedom talk dot com and uh put the camera on people we had a teenage boy who was put
00:46:11.160
on suicide watch because of his treatment as as an outcast and he told his principal hey there's there's
00:46:18.840
no mask mandate i don't have to wear a mask what you're doing is illegal the principal said i don't
00:46:22.760
care so sue me i mean the treatment of these people was subhuman uh kelly where did they go
00:46:30.120
to get all the story where do you give me the site and where people should go to get all the
00:46:33.880
information on you in this coalition that you've put together well most of it you can find it real
00:46:39.160
freedom talk dot com i put some of it out on twitter and instagram and truth and that handles
00:46:45.560
that real freedom talk so real freedom talk dot com has a number of articles that i've written
00:46:52.360
shows where i've interviewed people we're still putting it together we're still working on this
00:46:56.200
coalition we're excited to go to washington dc and speak with a number of congressional teams
00:47:02.600
to bring forward testimonials to bring for the facts and like i said we're using my situation as
00:47:08.520
sort of the bellwether or the the canary in the mine shaft or the case study to show what has
00:47:13.160
happened to parents and believe me it it is it it's devastating but you just keep moving forward
00:47:19.720
and hoping for justice no it's it's incredible this is why they're targeting the family this is the
00:47:25.960
neo-marxist element of it kelly one more time social media where do people go
00:47:31.080
they can go to uh realfreedom.com we have a give send go.com freedom talk if you'd like to donate
00:47:37.960
and then on social media my handle is at real freedom talk
00:47:44.520
kelly thank you for joining us we're going to cover this one closely so thank you for being on
00:47:47.880
here today to kick it off steve thanks for being a fighter and and allowing me to come on today because
00:47:52.840
i'm a fighter too and we got to take back our country thanks brother right there you see it i mean
00:48:00.760
this is also why i think people are so upset about why in this budget process you do have leverage
00:48:05.640
points you you you do have power why have we gone through this entire budget process and hey
00:48:11.560
why is the fbi funded you gotta you gotta you gotta use your leverage you gotta punch hard here
00:48:17.880
the whole weaponization and look jordan these guys did a good job today but it i said he should
00:48:24.120
assign the weaponization committee to somebody else it's such a huge topic we really haven't done we
00:48:29.240
haven't gotten there we gotta be honest and look what's happened to kelly walker and that's just one
00:48:33.960
example throughout the country they have focused like all communist revolutions and posobics knows
00:48:40.280
this he did that great what eight-part series all communist revolutions start with coming after the
00:48:44.840
family and particularly coming after the children to turn the children against the parents it's their
00:48:50.840
it's their oldest playbook and they're going to run it and run and they're running in this country
00:48:54.440
and if you think we're out of the woods yet you're you're sadly mistaken we are not by a long shot
00:48:59.880
there's so many stories like this happening throughout the country and we've had a huge surge
00:49:03.480
and took over a bunch of school boards but they push back and they push back hard so i think this
00:49:07.320
fight right now is a standoff kelly said something you saw this in carrie sheffield and kelly walker about
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