Todd Ben-Avraham joins us to talk about the border crisis, the mass deportation of illegal immigrants, and the potential for a trade war between the United States and China. Plus, President Trump's vision for peace and prosperity in the Middle East.
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00:02:58.100What China is doing, he's looking for every tool in the toolbox because President Trump said, hey, there's going to be some tariffs here, maybe a trade war, never know.
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00:03:40.560In China, it's more kind of mano a mano right now.
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00:05:24.200That's down two-thirds from where it was on Biden's final week in office.
00:05:29.740The border is really pretty darn hermetically sealed at this point, and it's going to stay that way because of the tariff threat from Trump.
00:05:41.900It's got the Mexicans now deploying 10,000 troops who are going to double layer that thing to make sure that people don't try to – more people don't try to penetrate.
00:05:53.160The most important part of it is that even the four or five hundred a day that are crossing, none of them are being released.
00:06:02.940They are all being expelled or detained, often right back to Mexico or detained and flown.
00:06:31.860Wherever they got caught when the gate closed is where they are.
00:06:36.060And most of them are going to be in Mexico.
00:06:39.440And so the big problem that we had in the United States, all our mayors and our governors and spending all this budget, is now Mexico's problem.
00:06:49.620And they are in chaos down there trying to figure out how to handle it.
00:06:54.460Hundreds of thousands stuck down there.
00:07:06.020When Mayorka said that, it had no meaning.
00:07:07.940When Joe Biden said that, it had no meaning.
00:07:09.560When Kamala Harris said that, it has no meaning.
00:07:11.440When Todd Benzman says that, it has meaning.
00:07:15.280You wrote the definitive book on this topic, and you're the first person to come on here and say, hey, I want everybody to know it is not chaos.
00:07:23.660This is very well thought through of what is happening on this invasion.
00:07:27.140So when Todd Benzman comes back here and says, for all sakes and purposes, the border is secured, walk me through.
00:08:14.900We did not need a Lankford Senate bill that they talked about all through the campaign or comprehensive immigration reform or anything like that.
00:08:27.220We just had to simply apply them to have the will to apply them.
00:08:31.860That's what Trump did on inauguration when the clock struck noon plus one minute.
00:08:40.200They canceled the parole programs, the flights, the walking them across.
00:08:45.880And everybody said, wow, when you cancel those parole entries, those scheduled illegal entries that the government's doing, the illegal smuggling, they're all going to start rushing the border.
00:09:20.740But that's that's just the you know, that's a low, low norm for this country.
00:09:26.660It's it's really, you know, Kamala Harris goes down there and takes the the armies down there.
00:09:35.060I'll get back to Biden and Harris in a second.
00:09:37.420But Pete goes to the armies down there.
00:09:39.340What purpose now is the army at the southern border, sir?
00:09:45.480Well, you have to keep your foot on the gas pedal.
00:09:48.600The fact that they were successful does not mean you can, you know, call off the emergency declaration or any of the the tactics that that are in play down there in the strategy.
00:10:21.460They're they're they're putting boots on the ground in areas where there aren't many boots on the ground.
00:10:26.260And you may have noticed in recent days that Border Patrol agents are on the interior away from the border running ice raids, basically, you know, running, you know, hauling in illegal immigrants from away from the border.
00:10:41.520So they're doing really crucial tasks of rounding up illegals and getting them out of the country because they've got other boots on the ground down there, you know, filling the gaps.
00:10:58.120You have to have layers of different agencies.
00:11:00.480You've got DEA out there working with ICE and you have lots of other federal officers who are out there because, remember, the Biden administration spent the last four years dismantling the whole damn machine.
00:11:17.280A thousand ICE agents shorter than when Biden entered office and they were chained to their desks.
00:11:26.480And so it's going to take a little while to start rounding up on the interior.
00:11:30.940But the border, you've got to keep your foot on the gas down there for a good long time to make sure that the the illegal aliens on the other side get the message that they are not getting through.
00:12:22.000First of all, all those months were insane.
00:12:24.600Two hundred thousand, two hundred and fifty thousand.
00:12:27.980But November and December of twenty twenty three was, you know, the peak.
00:12:33.140They were they were we were seeing ten thousand twelve, thirteen and fourteen thousand a day compared to that to four hundred and forty yesterday.
00:12:43.100I mean, it's just like I was saying, Kamala Harris was out there saying we need to turn the page on the on everything on the border.
00:12:50.800Well, that page is completely turned, in my view, down there on the border because of policies.
00:13:00.100What they did, Steve, was they they just simply decided that they were not going to follow the law, which requires detention and removal.
00:13:13.500Those are the key things, detention and removal down there.
00:13:36.720Oh, my God, this thing just got out of control.
00:13:39.140And, you know, there's all these wars in the world and, you know, all this terrible things happening in the world and climate change and everything.
00:13:52.940That's what the the illegal aliens look for.
00:13:57.200They just want to know, am I going to drop $10,000 and end up back home or am I going to drop $10,000 in smuggling fees and end up inside the country and under Biden?
00:14:08.280It was 95 percent guaranteed you were going to get in and stay in.
00:14:28.920Is it chaos down there because these hundreds of thousands of people that continue to come north and think somehow they're going to get through and Trump's not serious about this?
00:14:57.280They got stuck with the hot potato in the game.
00:15:01.040They are now having to manage the costs and the bureaucracy of the costs of dealing with supporting hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants that are stuck in Mexico, can't go forward.
00:15:21.340A lot of them want to stay in Mexico, they say, and, you know, become that go for the great Mexican dream.
00:16:05.980Now, the Mexicans are not receiving a whole lot of new immigrants from their south.
00:16:13.920The Darien Gap, which we've talked about here over and over again, I've been down there, Michael, Jan, Oscar, all of those guys, they've all been down there for the last few years.
00:16:38.000It's down 90 percent, the traffic through the Darien, because the immigrants see what's going on up trail in Mexico, so they're staying home.
00:16:49.340It's this reverse domino effect that we saw when the COVID closed all those borders.
00:16:55.000All of a sudden, all the way down back through to home villages, people are saying, I'm not going.
00:17:01.840I'm not spending 10 grand or 20 grand to go.
00:17:04.500But it's important that the Trump administration maintain the pressure because they are looking for any weak link in the chain.
00:17:15.980They're looking for any crevice that they can get through.
00:17:20.640And if they find one, man, they will pour through.
00:17:23.920So it's got to – you can't just get complacent and rest on their laurels.
00:17:28.820It's your whole – Michael Yon's whole thing about what osmotic flow, the pressure flows.
00:17:34.840Why then – riddle me this, Todd Benzman.
00:17:38.520Why then does President Trump drop the hammer on Mexico given that his actions – and he's thought that – he and Miller and Hohman have thought this through to the nth detail about sealing the border.
00:17:51.220Why then does he drop the emergency order as a national security on Mexico for 25 percent, not just as part of an economic change of model, but about fentanyl?
00:18:05.200What is it about fentanyl in the drug trade?
00:18:52.060It's easy to – and so they are insistent.
00:18:56.760The Trump administration has to be insistent that Mexico actually use its military to physically,
00:19:06.400kinetically pressure the Mexican cartels in their labs and to physically get between the cartels and our border in the smuggling lanes.
00:19:18.160That's going to be very interesting to watch because once you put Mexican military power between the cartels and our border, there's going to be fireworks shooting.
00:19:29.460That's what happens when they do that.
00:19:31.460And I think that that is about to happen.
00:19:34.180And I've got sources in the administration who are telling me that they are working on U.S.-backed, intelligence-backed plans for the Mexicans to start kinetically working against the cartel fentanyl labs.
00:19:55.680You're not going to be – and we're not burying the lead there.
00:19:58.740You're saying how big a deal is it and what does it change to designate the Mexican drug and human trafficking cartels terrorist organization, sir?
00:20:24.540And they've got the FBI working those, and they're pretty tied up working that.
00:20:32.040So I'm very curious to see how they're going to also take on –
00:20:37.180But as a terrorist organization, you're designated people, and you're saying here that you know inside the administration they're working on plans right now.
00:20:45.840When you say kinetic, you mean guns up against the fentanyl labs.
00:20:50.700I take it those fentanyl labs are not in the territory of the United States of America, correct?
00:20:58.140My understanding is that one use of this military, the 10,000, is to try to get all up in the grill of those cartels on that fentanyl stuff.
00:21:12.860So we haven't seen it happen yet because it just – it's pretty – the troops aren't even out yet.
00:21:18.840They're still like rolling out of the barracks.
00:21:20.960But I think we are going to see some kinetic stuff going on down there.
00:21:26.120I think that there needs to be some kinetic activity down there.
00:21:30.380We have a lot of Americans dying from this drug, way, way too many.
00:21:36.840Obviously, something has to be done, and they're going to at the very least put up some show-and-tell or some dog-and-pump something.
00:21:44.460They're going to do something to show, please don't put those tariffs on us, Mr. President.
00:21:53.580So this will be used in the Mexican Army.
00:21:55.760Folks, you should know the tariff situation.
00:22:00.180President Trump inquired they send 10,000 Mexican Army and Marine personnel to the border.
00:22:06.760You're saying you think some of those will be designated to go kinetic against the Mexican cartels and particularly the fentanyl labs in northern Mexico.
00:22:31.460You know, like I've had people tell me that know this stuff say, well, it depends on which division they put in there because, you know, half the Mexican military is co-opted, you know, corrupted by those cartels.
00:22:44.980So you've got to get – I mean, you know, maybe the Mexican Navy guys or – I mean, let's face it.
00:22:52.760You know, half of the Mexican military is corrupted, and they're in bed with those guys.
00:22:57.740So you can kind of see that the Mexican – the central government, Scheinbaum's government is going to have to pick and choose who they put in there.
00:23:08.360It depends on which units they put in there, in my opinion, because it is what it is.
00:23:18.940Let's talk about the other side, and I want to hold you through the break if that's possible.
00:23:22.240I want to take a minute or two here and hold you through the break.
00:23:25.540So on our side, Tom Holman and Christy Noem have been doing these raids, the ICE raids, and a lot of it, I think, is to show activity and we're serious.
00:23:37.480But first of all, how do you think the raids of the criminals, and what do you think of the blowback from the sanctuary city,
00:23:42.200and particularly the mayor of Chicago and Pritzker, the governor of Illinois, saying you're not coming to my jail, you're not coming to my prison,
00:23:49.720you're not going to get these foreign nationals out of here?
00:32:00.980But they think it's politically smart for them to fight and confront the Trump administration from coming into the jails and prisons and getting the illegal alien foreign national criminals, sir.
00:32:17.880That's what the Democratic Party thought about the border and all the illegal aliens rushing into all the big cities all during the campaign.
00:32:28.700So the point is that, you know, if you're going to inflict those kind of criminal aliens on your own people, you're – I can't see what political advantage you're going to gain from that.
00:32:44.560Every time, you know, ICE runs around and, you know, rounds up a bunch of these, you got, you know, Fox News or, you know, somebody embedded in there.
00:32:51.440And you can actually see who these people are, you know, child rapists, repeat, you know, rapists of adult women and armed robbers and all that kind of violent gangbangers and repeatedly arrested over and over again and repeatedly released by those blue police departments and blue sheriffs.
00:34:17.180One is when you have to do the cuts and the social programs, it's going to be – it's going to be – you know, all of it's going to be – you know, that's going to be on TV every night.
00:34:51.180But the word mass deportations, Benzman, and you know this, when the resistance becomes huge is when – and Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, is down in Central America cutting deals with the Central American countries.
00:35:06.320And we're working on a deal, obviously, with Mexico.
00:35:08.680But when you say they have to go, they're going to – CNN is going to have the camera right there on the crying babies and the crying mothers and, you know, hanging on for dear life.
00:35:18.620And political polling numbers are going to jump around, and you're going to have the test.
00:35:25.400So walk me through how this is going to happen.
00:35:27.480You're the guy that identified the problem.
00:35:30.980Truthfully, that problem, President Trump says, more than inflation, was the number one problem.
00:35:36.400The number one issue he went on is exactly what Todd Benzman and the rest of the team have been here for four or five years talking about.
00:35:43.820Now we're to the solutions, and the solutions are not easy.
00:35:51.460So walk me through, in your mind, when you start – when you get to the deportations and mass deportations, how does this start playing out, given what you've seen so far in the days of thunder?
00:36:06.140That's the polling numbers for support of deportation, mass deportation of criminal aliens.
00:36:15.140Another 50-plus percent of Americans are in favor of deporting everybody else.
00:36:21.600It's a little bit less than the criminals, of course.
00:36:24.560The other side understands that it has to erode that support.
00:36:30.400And the way that they're going to do it is through what I call injustice porn, which is the crying mothers and the babies when they finally get around to deporting the housekeepers and the lawnmowers and that sort of thing.
00:36:48.860So when they get to that, you're going to see a real information war.
00:36:55.420And I call that injustice porn because, first of all, most of the claims that you will see that will be made are going to be false.
00:37:05.960It's like the Haitian – the border patrols guys on the horses with the horse reins whirling them around.
00:37:14.480Oh, you whipped these poor Haitian men.
00:37:26.660All of those kind of cases, you're going to see that all again.
00:37:30.440And it has to be called out immediately before the news cycles keep kind of ricocheting around the country and doing real damage, making public officials come out and actually take action in public policy.
00:37:47.900So there has to be real information war countering it from the other side, countering the injustice porn that I call – I call it that.
00:37:58.940It's just all BS, women and children crying and claims of abuse.
00:38:06.120So that's really how that's going to roll out.
00:38:08.400Now, one thing I want to say is that the mass deportations are going to take time to build up because the machine was dismantled and left in pieces all over the garage.
00:38:22.540And Holman and all those guys are all trying to piece it together as fast as they – that's why they did Guantanamo Bay.
00:38:28.700They put that online because the Biden administration got rid of all the detention space.
00:39:04.680It may take a couple of years, but they have to work up to it, be patient.
00:39:09.160They're going to – with Holman in there, when he's in the driver's seat and the pilot's seat, you have to know that he's going to do everything he possibly can within the infrastructure constraints that he has to actually get those numbers up.
00:39:23.940And I've heard that the president is demanding those numbers go up.
00:39:28.440So you can rest assured that there is going to be pressure to get those numbers higher.
00:39:35.000I can tell you the president of the United States, he wants to see – he loves what he's seen so far, but he wants – he's a guy – it's a mathematics guy.
00:40:21.780What do you take – what you saw just at the little ice activity in Los Angeles?
00:40:26.320You had these pretty mass demonstrations with burning the American flag and waving the Mexican flag, sir.
00:40:33.920We're going to see a whole lot of that.
00:40:35.580That's going to be part of the fabric of living in America for the next four years.
00:40:41.340You're going to see a lot of that sort of thing, and it will probably gain momentum and numbers as we go from criminal aliens to non-criminals, which we will do.
00:44:11.680You're already seeing it, you know, filing in the Ninth Circuit, right, to stop this or that policy.
00:44:18.840And then appeals to go to the Supreme Court or filings in the Fifth Circuit, the conservative Fifth Circuit, mostly conservative Fifth Circuit.
00:44:28.420And, you know, birthright citizenship is a great example.
00:44:34.600They knew that was going to court right away.
00:44:37.380They crafted the thing to make it to the Supreme Court.
00:44:41.600And there it is, you know, a couple dozen lawsuits right off the bat.
00:44:45.540You're going to see a lot of litigation.
00:44:47.220I don't think we've even started on the litigation.
00:44:58.760Well, I was going to say, you know, one of the key tools that the administration is using here is called 212F of the INA.
00:45:08.760And I've talked about 212F here I don't know how many times, but it's just a number.
00:45:13.980It's a piece of the INA that allows a president to, for whatever reason they feel like, woke up in a bad mood that day,
00:45:22.960they're going to block and return all illegal alien crossers for whatever reason they feel like, you know, for the national interest for the most part.
00:46:17.160And they did until they were able to wrassle that down to the Madigan.
00:46:22.320I don't think that's going to happen this time.
00:46:24.380And one of the great things about the tariff threat in Mexico is that Mexico is a key choke point.
00:46:32.100And having 10,000 troops up there blocking and returning migrants back south and all that is like extra layering and buffer for the whole agenda.
00:46:43.900I think they've got multiple things going on all at the same time that are going to keep that pressure on down there.
00:46:50.360And keep them clearing out of the interior as well.
00:46:54.880Todd, where do people go to get your writings, everything you're putting up, great stuff every day?
00:47:00.960You're more focused on this than ever.
00:47:02.600And we haven't, folks, given where we've come, given how we identified the problem, and Todd and the guys put their lives in line to do it, it's been amazing.
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