00:19:32.660So you're seeing, you're going to see if you have a mostly male society, like I said, it
00:19:38.760would out-compete societies that were more 50-50 or societies that had more females in
00:19:43.740them simply because males spend more time working and paying taxes.
00:19:48.640So I know there's a New Zealand study that shows that men pay $150,000 more in their lifetimes to tax in New Zealand than they actually take out.
00:19:59.900And to be clear, he's saying that they would out-compete economically speaking.
00:20:03.260They likely in current scenarios wouldn't out-compete in terms of fertility rates, but new technology could unlock that.
00:20:08.940And if people are wondering, to Simone's question, what does an all-male versus all-female society look like?
00:20:13.660A fun, now keep in mind, this has some staging to it and stuff like that.
00:20:17.440But if you want to get a feel for the differences, there was a survivor season where they separated people into an all-male and all-female group.
00:20:26.600And they created very different intra-group cultures.
00:20:29.220And I think the intra-group cultures they created, it explains to me why it is so prevalent among the friend groups I know to be like, of women, right?
00:20:40.600And then we'll create a group where it's all of us single moms working together to raise our kids.
00:20:44.600And yet none of these groups has ever survived more than six months that I'm aware of.
00:20:48.860And I think that episode shows why, not episode season or whatever.
00:20:52.320I also think that an all-male society would be more highly disagreeable.
00:20:57.420If you look at the Old West, it's obviously like there's shootings and there's lootings all over the place.
00:21:01.800It has to do with just men not getting angry, getting on each other's nerves and figuring out ways to relieve the violence with, relieve the anger with violence.
00:21:10.680One of my questions, though, is, isn't one of the reasons why, for example, men on average contribute more in tax dollars is because when they have children, their female partners are often participating in that in a way that doesn't show up in the modern economy, like uncompensated labor.
00:21:29.860Because women, on average, just prefer to do that work, so they pick it up.
00:21:33.360There must be some numbers that are off there, right?
00:21:35.660It's the whole gender pay gap argument.
00:21:39.960And the gender pay gap argument, women, they take more time off for raising the young, so that's going to affect their earnings potential down the road.
00:21:48.520It's going to affect their earnings potential immediately.
00:21:51.360Men also typically work more overtime hours.
00:21:55.580So when a man is in love, he's more likely to put more effort into his family and put more effort into things.
00:22:03.580But my concern is that if men now are solely responsible for raising kids, like also theoretically, their contribution to GDP will take a hit.
00:22:12.460Or at least their contribution to measured financial GDP will take a hit.
00:22:15.520The other thing to keep in mind, Simone, is that if you look at low-skilled jobs that pay a lot, they are disproportionately male-held jobs.
00:22:24.640You're looking at like high-danger jobs, high-etc.
00:22:28.060But here's what I think we can forget about this.
00:22:31.600If you had a society that was only men, would also have to sort into the low-skilled jobs that are disproportionately female today that are lower-paying, like teacher, etc.
00:23:29.340And education – the problem with education is you're starting to see more verbal – like the reason girls are doing so much better is because education is becoming more verbal as opposed to visual.
00:23:38.740And a lot of these – a lot of these manual labor jobs require visual thinking as opposed to verbal thinking.
00:23:45.040And like they're pulling out – my old middle school, I just looked up the number of teachers, male versus female.
00:23:50.640And there's only two male teachers, right?
00:23:52.600Back when I was a kid, it was like 50-50.
00:23:57.180So they're just – they're eliminating – and they replaced it with feminist music class, right?
00:24:02.380So they're teaching like Black Lives Matter hymns.
00:24:04.880I'm like, wow, this is a skill that's going to help civilization continue.
00:24:08.760I'm also thinking actually when I'm thinking about what would a society that's primarily male look like – this is imperfect, obviously, because women did actually play a pretty big role in the Spartan world.
00:24:19.980But like that was a world in which to a great extent it seemed like childcare was pooled.
00:24:26.580It wasn't really so much that like women did all the child rearing as much as – in other societies at least.
00:24:33.420Like the kids weren't always in the home.
00:24:34.540They were often training collectively.
00:24:36.240So like I could see an all-male society in which you have all the children training collectively more or less at scale, like in a really efficient manner that also creates pretty successful humans.
00:24:48.480I've looked at Sparta, and the problem with Sparta, it was very matriarchal.
00:24:52.720But what happened was it didn't last very long.
00:24:55.460It only lasted like a few generations compared to societies like Athens that were more like patriarchal.
00:25:01.160So if you look at Sparta versus Athens, it's more matriarchal versus patriarchal than anything else.
00:25:05.480Was part of that matriarchal – like women were property managers, but they weren't really – were they that involved in politics and ruling?
00:25:12.460I'm not 100% sure, but I know that they were involved in the economy.
00:25:52.220I mean, I'm sure they can do something else.
00:25:55.480You know, they did what the nation needed in order to gain wealth.
00:25:58.700So theoretically, they would train to do really awesome stuff that's a little bit more –
00:26:02.740They did gain wealth, but you notice in that culture, like if you look at the ruins of Athens versus the ruins of Sparta, there's nothing in Sparta.
00:26:36.000And this is actually genuinely something we believe I think puts us at odds with a lot of like the manosphere right now where they're like, look at the old artists.
00:26:44.100And Simone's looking at that and she's like, I don't know.
00:27:25.660You take a real doll, but you remove the head and you remove the vaginal insert and you, those things are technological, but the rest of the doll is pretty much a real doll.
00:28:57.360So say two partners are on either side of the world, they can have a sexual intimate relationship without being in physical contact with each other, but still be able to get each other off.