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00:03:15.000This came up, so now we've got to go ahead and address it because it's all over X and all over the internet because, you know, people love drama and love gossip, and it's kind of ridiculous that we have to go ahead and...
00:03:25.000We'll talk about this, but I guess we're here.
00:04:01.000But guys, if you're watching for the first time, watching a long-time viewer, live show, April 26th, here in Miami, special guests, we have academics.
00:04:10.000Andrew Wilson, TK Kirkland, some of the guests we can't say right now, but all coming to the show live in person.
00:04:40.000Like, you're only irrelevant, but as soon as something happens, you guys, all you guys do, oh, let me talk about friendship fit, oh, look at this, did you hear about this?
00:05:21.000Obviously, we ain't messing around on this one because, yeah, I mean, you know, obviously we were making some jokes on the last week or whatever about it, but no, man, I mean, this is some pretty serious stuff, so.
00:05:31.000Yeah, yeah, this is, you know, this is as serious as serious gets.
00:05:39.000I've been talking to both of you for quite some time, and as soon as I can get myself out of a courtroom into Miami, I'm excited to spend some time with you.
00:05:47.000Yeah, when I spoke to Walter earlier today, I said, alright, well, you know what, I think I gotta jump on and be the one to say a few things, because I know he is dying to say a whole bunch of things, and a lot of those things he got to discuss with me that are subject to attorney-client privilege.
00:06:03.000But to then share them with the world right now is a challenging kind of a thing and would be absolutely against my advice.
00:06:11.000Sorry to spoil the party to everyone who wanted to hear all the salacious details at this moment.
00:06:15.000However, there are some things that need to be said and I'm happy to say them.
00:07:11.000And what I will say, as someone who's been practicing family law for 25 years, is a man is really not truly successful until the 304s come out of the woodwork and say, I have your baby.
00:07:28.000What are we going to do about the baby?
00:07:31.000And surprisingly, instead of having that conversation like a civilized human being with a working prefrontal cortex, Most of the time what they choose to do is to post it on social media because that's absolutely what a good future mom,
00:07:47.000potentially, or rational human being who's not just looking to shake someone down for money would do.
00:08:03.000Is that you have officially arrived, my friend, and you are sitting among some of the greatest, most celebrated, wealthiest people in the world, many of whom I have represented, but you never heard anything really about it other than the little momentary blip that it came up,
00:08:20.000if at all, because they did what is now unfortunately going to be the bad news.
00:08:51.000Okay, so you've got to learn to say that.
00:08:54.000And it's really unfortunate because I know you are dying to talk about many of the things, many of the counter-narratives, the facts as opposed to the fictions, the way that things are weaponized and weaponized inappropriately,
00:09:16.000But revenge is a dish best served cold.
00:09:20.000And right now, there are civil and criminal penalties for the kinds of behaviors that we're looking at right now.
00:09:30.000So I want you, as your counsel, and again, you're free to ignore my advice.
00:09:34.000Plenty of times people ignore my advice, and sometimes I'm grateful when they do it because it creates a lot more chaos, which makes me a lot more money.
00:09:41.000You know, peace does not make me any money.
00:09:44.000But I'm telling you, my advice to you, and I've said this to you earlier privately, is there has to be, for the moment, no specific comment.
00:09:55.000Because the level of issues that are being caused right now by a third party in terms of what they are exposing themselves to, there's an old saying, never interrupt the enemy when they're in the process of committing suicide.
00:11:00.000I personally should not have nutted within a 304 like this.
00:11:06.000Now granted, things happen, whether true or not.
00:11:10.000But, like you said, James, I'll keep my mouth shut.
00:11:12.000Because that's the info here I want to share with the chat.
00:11:15.000You know, this recording, I have to tell you, the recording we are discussing, and in all of these situations, when there is a recording of this kind, which there always is.
00:11:29.000Why would you be recording the conversation unless you plan to use that to stick somebody up?
00:11:35.000Normal, rational human beings who are acting in good faith don't record their conversations.
00:11:45.000Especially, too, when they're being mindful of the fact that there's a difference between a one-party state and a two-party state when it comes to consent for recordings, and that, again, it's a felony in the state of Florida to record a conversation without the consent of the other party, and if you then publish it,
00:12:51.000So if we want to listen to that recording, you want to play that recording for anybody who's been under a rock and didn't get to hear it, fine.
00:12:56.000The only context I would give before playing it is listen to it.
00:13:03.000Is this a conversation of a woman who...
00:13:06.000Who is having a sincere conversation with a human being?
00:13:09.000Or is this someone who knows that they're recording this?
00:13:12.000And when you know you're the one who's recording the conversation, and that you can change it, modify it, splice it, edit it, You don't hear what was on the call before.
00:13:23.000You don't hear what was on the call after.
00:13:25.000And to be candid, guys, I don't know if anybody realizes we're living in 2024.
00:13:30.000I can't tell you how many times I've been in a courtroom where there is audio that we've had to have digital forensic experts come in, spend $30,000 to show that it was modified audio.
00:13:43.000There's any number of products available right now from OpenAI, ChatGPT, all the various companies that are doing this type of work where you can take small snippets of someone's audio and you can have this person saying five or ten sentences and then you can literally dub anything that's to be said.
00:13:59.000And I have to tell you, you may not know it guys, there's a lot of recordings of you talking out there.
00:14:04.000I could put together almost, if you said almost any word in the English language, I could find an example of you saying it.
00:14:11.000So again, I think it's very, very important if you're going to listen to this or any recording of some poor innocent young woman who's calling some fellow and just happens to be recording it, and just happens to be making sure that when she's having that conversation she seems like something of a victim in the situation,
00:14:30.000I keep steering the situation in directions that would make for good internet publication.
00:14:37.000You know, when you listen to it, listen to it with that ear.
00:14:41.000See if it sounds a little bit different.
00:14:43.000Let's play it, just for the audience to kind of...
00:15:34.000I listened to it, and I was like, oh, yeah, it's that.
00:15:35.000It's like she went in and picked, like, Menu option A. And that's the call.
00:15:42.000If it wasn't breaking attorney-client privilege, I got about a half a dozen celebrities that you've probably seen in films and TV that I'd put you in touch with.
00:15:51.000And they'd go, oh yeah, I got that call.
00:19:19.000Like, this is not a conversation between two adults who are talking about something not for performance purposes, one-sided performance purposes, but because they actually want to have a dialogue.
00:19:31.000And again, ask yourselves, What kind of person, if you were dealing with something truthful and this serious, does this, records it, and immediately publishes it on the internet, and then continues to follow it up with more internet postings?
00:20:36.000And by the way, now I'm very upset that I lost the baby.
00:20:39.000And obviously, I'm not going to return the money for the stroller and for the car and for all the down payment on the condo that I said that I needed because I was going to have your child.
00:21:03.000Don't you know there's no way to take a generic piece of paper from Planned Parenthood that anybody could get for $10 and change it to say whatever it is you want it to say?
00:21:13.000And then in a few months just turn around and say, oh, I lost the baby.
00:21:17.000And again, if you defend yourself, if you say anything in the court of public opinion, you lose no matter what, which is why, again, you know, revenge is a dish best served cold.
00:21:29.000There are criminal and civil penalties for this kind of behavior.
00:22:44.000She's mad because Fresh didn't want to fucking get her an apartment in Miami and he didn't want to be with her no more.
00:22:49.000That's why she's doing all this shit, alright?
00:22:52.000She did a pregnancy test before in fucking Barbados and it came back negative.
00:22:56.000Sorry, I had to fucking say this shit.
00:22:58.000It's fucking annoying me, these fucking ass clowns in the chat saying all this bullshit, whatever.
00:23:02.000There's a high likelihood it's not true and she's doing this shit because she knows that she's done.
00:23:06.000She knows that he don't want to be with her no more.
00:23:08.000So she's like, let me take the fucking building down with me.
00:23:10.000Let me burn this bitch down and make him look terrible.
00:23:13.000Let me record this fucking phone call and premeditated, call it, make him get a reaction so I can put this shit on the internet, put it on Instagram stories immediately after, right?
00:23:24.000And this is what I mean when I say you ass clowns don't know what the fuck is going on in the fucking chat talking all the shit.
00:23:50.000Gentlemen, I can tell you, you are in a huge fraternity.
00:23:56.000I'm not kidding when I say that this is the sign of success.
00:24:00.000I cannot, because of attorney-client privilege, tell you how many men in a 25-year career I have seen this exact story play out with.
00:24:11.000Much of the time, there was no pregnancy.
00:24:14.000Much of the time, there was a pregnancy that mysteriously miscarries a short time later, usually after the check clears or the wire transfer is completed.
00:24:23.000Sometimes there is, in fact, a pregnancy.
00:24:25.000But many of the times, once that pregnancy comes to completion, wouldn't you know, the DNA test reveals that the individual who was alleged to be the father of this child, usually the one with a seven or eight figure bank account, Turns out to not be it.
00:24:41.000And the scumbag boyfriend who they had on the side, who makes minimum wage, he was the one who happens to have all the genetic markers tied to this child.
00:24:51.000So there's a whole lot of ways this story ends.
00:24:58.000And again, we're not doing a post-mortem on this situation yet, because it's not done yet.
00:25:04.000But I will tell you with a very high degree of confidence, knowing a lot more about this situation than anyone in this situation other than the gentleman himself, that there is a lot more happening here and a lot more information that if...
00:25:22.000You were a reckless individual, and ignoring my advice as counsel, you would unleash immediately both barrels.
00:25:30.000But I appreciate that you are at least following some of my advice.
00:25:35.000The fact that we're talking about this at all...
00:25:37.000Means you're not completely following my advice.
00:25:39.000The reality is, if you don't talk, you walk.
00:25:42.000And that talking about this stuff just gives it oxygen.
00:25:46.000I mean, you're just giving this individuals 15 minutes, another 15 minutes.
00:25:52.000I understand that it's important to want to protect yourself.
00:25:55.000And I understand that your partner here is less restrained and certainly wants to protect you, which I respect the bonds and brotherhood in that way.
00:28:35.000Gentlemen, the reality here is everyone who is listening to this, particularly any man who is listening to this, I know the majority of your audience is male, anyone who is listening to this, this should put a chill down your spine.
00:29:19.000This happens to Muslims, Christians, Jews.
00:29:22.000This happens to pretty much everybody.
00:29:24.000And I will tell you, again, listen to this recording.
00:29:27.000If you've taken the time to listen to the recording, listen to the recording.
00:29:31.000I have to say, if she has any aspirations to ever becoming a narcotics officer in the police department, she should consider another alternative.
00:29:40.000Because her doing a controlled by would be like...
00:29:43.000So, I am going to be purchasing cocaine now from you.
00:29:47.000How would you feel about my purchase of that cocaine?
00:29:50.000Will you sell that to me now, the cocaine?
00:29:53.000And then the buyer, I'm sorry, what did you want to sell?
00:29:57.000The cocaine that I wish to purchase that you are going to sell to me.
00:31:01.000And when someone does a setup, a hit, and immediately unleashes that to the public for the purposes of clout chasing or a shakedown financially, anything else that comes out of that person's mouth, the Bush doctrine applies.
00:31:21.000And to be honest with you, even us having this stream, I didn't even want to do it.
00:31:25.000I wanted to do an IRL stream and get back to it.
00:31:27.000But people were just bombarding us with this.
00:31:29.000So it's like, alright, we'll address it for you guys.
00:31:32.000But it amazes me that you guys are so quick to believe...
00:31:36.000Some fucking bimbo that gets on the internet that clearly did this, set it up, premeditated, went to Instagram immediately after illegally recording a phone call, and you guys are so quick to say, wow, Frish, you're such a bad guy, blah, blah, blah.
00:33:01.000I don't have to fucking sit here and share with my friends in front of you guys.
00:33:05.000When I first came on, before we started recording, and I spoke with the two of you briefly, I said to both of you that I think that the less that's said about this, the better from a legal perspective.
00:33:19.000There's a script that I often give to clients, which is I have no specific recollection of any wrongdoing.
00:33:24.000Although I acknowledge mistakes may have been made, I'd like to move forward past this unfortunate incident.
00:35:03.000I am advising you, again, Very emphatically that now is not the time to share the many things you have to say, the many screenshots, all of the media information, all the things that I'm able to view because of the benefit of attorney-client privilege.
00:36:20.000We had our conversations behind the scenes.
00:36:22.000You guys can say whatever the fuck you guys want to say, but loyalty is a real thing.
00:36:26.000I don't believe in the term loyalty to a fault because the whole reality of being loyal is you're loyal regardless of whether it's faulty or not.
00:36:33.000That's what loyalty is, you fucking ass clowns.
00:36:35.000But I guess this thing doesn't exist anymore, but That's all I'm going to say is that we're pursuing every avenue to fucking go after this chick for the fucking baseless and false allegations she made, man.
00:36:56.000No, no, but he's been a good friend because when people talk shit about your friend, you should defend them, especially when you know the truth.
00:37:07.000No, listen, I have to tell you, you know, the bond of you guys' friendship is an amazing thing.
00:37:13.000And I have to tell you, and I'm not giving anything away of attorney-client privilege when I say it.
00:37:18.000You know, I've dealt with some really incredibly successful people when they're in this situation.
00:37:27.000And you can tell when someone's panicked and you can tell when someone is genuinely trying to figure out what the hell's going on and how the hell to handle it and acting in good faith.
00:37:39.000And from every possible metric, you've been acting in good faith on this and trying to...
00:37:46.000To get a handle on what is the right thing and what is actually going on, what is truth, what is fiction, what is conversation and what is performance, what is fake and what is real.
00:38:10.000Because when we share with another human being, when we share with a woman parts of ourselves, honest parts of ourselves, and we make ourselves even the slightest bit vulnerable...
00:38:22.000And then we have to spend the rest of the time pulling the knife out of our back.
00:38:26.000That's the kind of thing that makes a person jaded.
00:38:29.000And what I will tell you is, so far in my conversations with you, you haven't lost your sense of humor, you haven't lost your bonds of friendship, you haven't lost your loyalty, and you haven't lost your integrity.
00:38:42.000And that's a whole lot more than I can say for the other end of that phone call.
00:38:46.000So I think you should be proud of the way you're handling yourself in this situation.
00:38:52.000And I think that, again, as the details of this thing become a little more public and something that can be discussed in more depth after civil, criminal, and other remedies are fully allowed to move through the system, I think there's going to be quite a few people that owe you an apology.
00:41:21.000We got Blue Baggins goes, Fresh just signed up for this woman to try and ruin you at every step for the rest of your life as a man with a bitter baby mama, I know, but I was lucky mine kicked the bucket, kind of a shrug.
00:41:33.000It's hilarious how you guys actually believe this shit.
00:41:46.000Bender the Offender says, there was a bill in Kentucky that passed its Senate that would allow women to collect child support before the birth of the child the whole nine months.
00:46:10.000When you do good to people and you're not a piece of shit, right?
00:46:13.000And you don't sit there and you backbite them and attack them when they're down and everything else like that or trying to get a gotcha moment or any of this other crap, they fucking respect you for that shit.
00:46:21.000Especially in this realm, in YouTube, where everyone's a fucking snake, bro.
00:46:58.000People come out the woodwork, man, and it's wild because it's funny.
00:47:01.000It's like if you make a hit piece on Fresh to Fit, you're going to get like a bunch of views because these people can't garner views without it, bro.
00:47:07.000They really can't garner views without it.
00:48:13.000And that's the reason why a lot of you motherfuckers are fat, triple chin, neck bearded, pieces of shit fucking dorks with no money and no one fucking respects you because you motherfuckers don't stand for nothing.
00:48:23.000If I stand with fresh, I die with fresh.
00:49:19.000My real estate will take care of me because I knew that if I want to say what the fuck I want to say and not sell my soul, I need to go ahead and build residual income coming in every fucking month so I can sit here and tell you fucking haters, fuck you!
00:49:42.000I got my ten toes and my two feet, and I fucking stand where the fuck I'm going to stand, and if I die there, I'll die there with a smile on my face because I can look in the fucking mirror and be happy with the man that I see, you pussy motherfuckers.
00:49:54.000You fucking losers that sit there and say, Who?
00:55:50.000It's like, we've lost masculinity in so many other ways that people don't even realize.
00:55:54.000And what I've noticed, especially from coming into this world, the entertainment world, etc., from coming from a law enforcement background, loyalty is a foreign concept.
00:56:14.000You needed to trust the guy that you were going into the house with.
00:56:16.000So whether you liked each other or not, there was that level of respect and that level of like, oh, yo, I'm loyal to you because we can fucking die together.
00:56:23.000And the fact that I exhibit this trait and people look at me like I'm crazy tells me, what the fuck is going on?
00:56:32.000Who are these people usually that look at me like I'm a foreign individual when I say to be loyal?
00:56:37.000Triple chin, fat, obese, look like fucking shit, you know, no fucking bass in their voice, haven't accomplished shit in their fucking life, fucking losers, right?
00:56:48.000You go to the gym with them, they do two sets, I don't know if I can do this anymore.
00:57:09.000People sell you out for a fucking dollar if they can do it.
00:57:12.000And I'm talking about a lot of these fucking YouTubers that ran to the fucking gun to go ahead and make a hit piece immediately without knowing all the facts.
00:59:29.000When you're loyal to people, they're loyal to you.
00:59:31.000Like I told y'all before, Destiny didn't have to fucking do that shit, but why'd he do that shit?
00:59:34.000Because like, damn, Fresh Foot stood by me, even though we're not friends, but they didn't fucking attack me while I was down, so you know what?
00:59:39.000I'm gonna fucking shit on this girl for them.
00:59:44.000But that's what happens, because integrity is so goddamn rare that when you actually do get it, people are like, goddamn, I respect this shit.
00:59:49.000Yo, they didn't kick me while I was down for some views, like everyone else fucking did.
01:03:01.000You don't need to make it a fucking spectacle.
01:03:03.000If I really care about you and I'm going to have a conversation with you where I care about your self-interest, why am I going to do it in front of a camera?
01:05:44.000I understand you want to speak, but if you talk, I will show up to the live in my semi-truck and personally apply a belt to ass.
01:05:52.000Nah, but for real, though, love you guys.
01:05:53.000Yeah, and notice how the people that really rock with us are saying shut up, but the people that don't give a fuck are saying, nah, bro, like, what are you?
01:07:22.000We can move forward in a correct way to make people understand what it really is.
01:07:25.000Unfortunately, though, because it's criminal now, I have to, on some level, remain silent because if I do talk too much, then there's too much exposure.
01:09:51.000Nigga, I'm over here playing some fucking Overwatch and you guys are Overwatching our lives like some fucking losers, some fucking gossiping bitches.
01:12:23.000Like, the guys that don't actually, don't get no pussy, haven't been laid in eight, nine months, that don't deal with females on a regular basis.
01:13:33.000Masculine men, the guys that got their shit together, the successful guys, etc., they understand how hard it is to find loyalty and integrity, so when they find that shit, they fucking respect it.
01:13:41.000That's why, wherever we go, we got military guys come up to us, law enforcement guys come up to us, guys that have careers, guys that are fucking killing it in life, always come up to us and say, yo, I'll fucking rock with y'all.
01:13:51.000I love the message, etc., because real...
01:14:54.000Like I said, man, guys, we don't even need the money.
01:14:58.000We just want y'all to rock with us and support us with all the haters that are going to probably fucking come, all the Tradcon losers that are going to come in and think that for some odd reason they thought that this was the religion podcast.
01:15:14.000It's amazing how fucking people think we bring on a couple religious guests, and they must forget what the fuck we do, and what the fuck we stand for, and how the fuck we got here just because we bring people opposing views.