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00:13:26.000I have three degrees, one in economics, philosophy, and then a bachelor's of science in psychology with a specialization of behavior analysis.
00:17:57.000I was wondering, Pixie and Aaron over here, we had a long, lengthy debate about feminism and about Andrew Tate and about cam girling and stuff like that.
00:18:06.000I'm wondering if you guys have anything to follow up before we get into the chat.
00:19:00.000I was wondering if you had anything to follow.
00:19:02.000We debated for two and a half hours about Andrew Tate, about if men and women are equal, she, they, basic feminist ideologies.
00:19:07.000I'm wondering if you had anything to follow up from that, if you learned anything, or if this panel changed your mindset at all.
00:19:12.000Well, I don't think I really learned anything in specific, but hopefully when we start asking more questions around this panel, we can get back into it.
00:19:20.000I'm kind of curious about what all these ladies think in general.
00:21:28.000In any way, shape, or form, biologically, mentally, physically, even fucking spiritually, if we want to go there, we are not the same at all.
00:21:35.000That's why we have masculinity and that's why we have femininity.
00:21:37.000There's a balance, but we are not the same.
00:23:35.000Yeah, is there any right or privilege that men have that women don't?
00:23:39.000Since you're saying men have been president all the time.
00:23:41.000I mean, because of how we were brought up, like, before us, they always said that, like, the men are, like, take care of, like, you know, the responsibilities and shit like that, and women are just supposed to have the babies and clean up, so, like, we automatically took that role as being, like, I feel like less than, for real.
00:23:56.000But women are adults capable of making their own decisions and going to school, are they not?
00:24:01.000Women are capable of going to school and making their own decisions and getting educated.
00:24:05.000Isn't it like women the higher rate of going to school?
00:24:08.000So wouldn't it be fair to say that there's less excuse for them to not be in a presidential power or be in some type of authority when they dominate education, higher education?
00:26:32.000It could happen and it would be easy for her.
00:26:34.000But I mean, the reason why the majority of the time it's been males is because naturally males are protectors, providers and are in control most of the time.
00:29:01.000If you choose to work and provide for yourself and do certain things that make you happy or you're struggling, and this is the only way you know to provide for yourself, then so be it.
00:29:16.000You can't look down upon someone doing that.
00:29:54.000That intelligent woman, she goes out all day, she's trapping, she's doing whatever, and then she comes home and her husband is wearing an apron.
00:31:05.000What rights do we have in the West that women don't have?
00:31:08.000And that segues to my second question.
00:31:10.000What rights and privileges do men have that women don't?
00:31:13.000Well, there are some issues that pertain specifically to women, like reproductive rights, that don't apply to men.
00:31:19.000But even those specific issues are like rights.
00:31:23.000Women are not enfranchised with those rights like they should be.
00:31:26.000Like, men, women should have access to comprehensive sex education, but most women are going to require additional rights that they need to be endowed with that just don't apply to men, like access to abortions, contraception, etc., Interesting.
00:31:42.000You're not really answering the question, though.
00:31:43.000The question is, what rights do men have that women don't have?
00:32:29.000But what I'm trying to say is that when it comes to reproductive rights, men have zero reproductive rights, whereas women have all the reproductive power.
00:33:35.000Men know what they're getting into when they have sexual sex with a woman.
00:33:40.000And women know what they're getting into when they have sexual sex with a man.
00:33:44.000I think sex education is incredibly lacking because most pregnancies are accidental pregnancies.
00:33:50.000But from there, you're saying that men have no choice or whatever.
00:33:55.000If you're choosing to engage sex with a woman, you are accepting that responsibility that you may get her pregnant.
00:34:02.000I think the point Myron's making though is that fundamentally in a state where abortion is legal, the woman has the right to exercise that option and the man does not have that right.
00:34:54.000You can't say he has equal part because he nutted in you and got you pregnant, but now when it's down to your decision, now it's yours.
00:35:00.000Any woman that doesn't let a man have the choice in having the baby or not, they're wrong in that, but...
00:35:07.000It's correct to say that obviously because the baby is gestated inside the woman, then it's her body and therefore it's her decision whether she goes through with that birth or not.
00:35:20.000But I suppose the issue really is if the man in the equation is adamantly against bringing that child into the world, he raises those concerns with the woman and she says, no, I'm going to go ahead with the birth.
00:35:33.000Then he has no right in that situation in the same way that the woman does.
00:35:36.000I mean, yes, the woman physically births the child, but the father is compelled to have a child that he didn't want to have because he doesn't have the same option that the woman has.
00:35:47.000I think that's the fundamental issue here.
00:35:49.000That's a similar issue than a person's own reproductive system.
00:35:53.000We can talk about parental rights and stuff like that, but I just want to make it clear that there's a difference between reproductive rights concerning your own system and just parental rights.
00:36:04.000And those rights mean when you have the child, now he's forced to be a father when he doesn't want to be a fucking father.
00:36:13.000If you choose to have a child after you spoke to the nigga and he said, no, I don't want to have a child, now you bitches go for child support and all the parental custody shit that comes later.
00:36:22.000It starts with the reproductive rights.
00:36:24.000So that's exactly what we're talking about.
00:37:00.000Well, what I was going to say is, like, she's right in a way, so, like, if a man did not want to be a part of that baby's life, he should be able, right in the beginning, sign, like, oh, if you're going to keep this baby, and I don't want nothing to do with it, sign something where she's claiming that she's going to take full responsibility, and he doesn't have to, you know...
00:37:41.000Like, based on, like, what you're saying, you're saying, like, if they decide to keep the baby, but they're talking about, like, you're talking about taking abortion away, like, you're pro-choice.
00:37:50.000So if we're abortion, like, pro-choice is no abortion.
00:38:24.000So I feel like what Pixie said, a lot of confliction is going on between reproductive rights versus legal and custodial rights.
00:38:31.000So where do you feel like the inequality lies here, where women are empowered in a way that men aren't legally?
00:38:37.000We got to start from zero and then work our way forward.
00:38:40.000Number one, when it comes to reproduction, it's a two-part process.
00:38:42.000You cannot have it occur without the male being involved because sperm needs to come in and hit the egg for it, right?
00:38:48.000So what I'm saying is that men have zero reproductive rights because women choose who lives and dies when it comes to birthing in the United States.
00:38:55.000Then from there, if you guys want to talk about parental rights, men virtually have no parental rights either.
00:38:58.000Women win 90% of the custody battles and they get the child most of the time.
00:39:02.000The woman has to be a damn near crackhead and a multi-time convicted felon to be able to lose custody of the child.
00:39:07.000So if we want to talk about reproductive rights, zero.
00:39:10.000And if we want to talk about parental rights, virtually zero as well.
00:39:13.000So realistically speaking, going back to the original question, what rights and privileges do men enjoy that women don't?
00:39:18.000And that's actually a privilege that women have that we don't have any say.
00:39:21.000As far as reproductive rights that you think men are entitled to, do you believe that men should be able to dictate whether or not another adult woman should be forced to have an abortion or to carry a childhood term?
00:40:31.000What I'm talking about is when the sperm hits the egg and a pregnancy is there, the reproductive process, the man loses all the rights, which is the debate, what we're having.
00:40:40.000We're not talking about, because you guys are trying to bring it to feelings of, but my body, my choice, maybe I don't want to do it.
00:40:46.000Men have reproductive rights that pertain to themselves, but never ones that would extend to another woman, you know?
00:40:53.000The point is that we're so blessed to be females.
00:42:48.000You think that the only thing that's going to determine your income...
00:42:52.000Over the span of your lifetime is just a mindset.
00:42:54.000You don't think it's going to have anything to do with your social circumstances, your upbringing, your educational attainment, how much familial and generational wealth you already have.
00:43:02.000I mean, with that mindset, we can go ahead and look at everybody that made it out of the hood to the NBA or to the NFL or they were able to overcome some crazy...
00:43:09.000No, those are exceptional people, but they're the exception to the rule.
00:43:12.000Like most people, you know, anybody could do it, but not everybody can, right?
00:43:15.000Yeah, but I mean, going to a different state to have an abortion with respect, I think that's a slightly different level of topic than becoming a billionaire.
00:43:24.000Your whole scenario was saying in an idealistic world, men and women are equal and that women are disadvantaged.
00:43:32.000What can they do besides the killing baby thing?
00:43:36.000Plan B? What is something that women are not able to do that men can do?
00:43:51.000Legally, I mean, we had a disagreement over the reproductive rights, but my point is that like...
00:43:55.000Do you have anything else besides that?
00:43:59.000Well, she tried to say systemic advantage is what I'm trying to get to, and she's saying that socioeconomic, blah, blah, blah, but I still don't understand.
00:44:05.000There are social advantages that are going to influence systems of government and have downstream effects that affect women specifically.
00:44:12.000Specifically, give me an example of what affects women negatively that doesn't also affect men.
00:44:27.000If we're talking about how we perceive each other in society, it's a straight-up fact that if men apparently sleep with a lot of women, they're seen as a higher status, right?
00:44:38.000Well, according to a lot of people, here it is, right?
00:44:40.000It's getting to that point where you can sleep with a lot of women, but having a lot of sex with different women does not make you a high-status male.
00:44:45.000I'm happy you think that a lot of men don't think that.
00:44:49.000Either way, you don't see women or you don't see people call men whores after sleeping with a bunch of women.
00:45:13.000Alright, so you couldn't really name anything outside of random?
00:45:16.000No, I could name them, but we have a fundamental disagreement about to what extent men are entitled to have reproductive rights over women's reproductive systems.
00:46:21.000Just because I know the homicide rate is higher for men, it doesn't mean that I'm going to walk around scared with pepper spray all the time.
00:46:25.000I'm just going to move my head on a swivel and be more confident and be more aware.
00:48:16.000Alright, are there any rights or privileges that men have that women don't?
00:48:19.000I don't know if this is a right or a privilege, but I've worked a very long time in sales.
00:48:24.000And yes, it's easier for women to sell more because they're women.
00:48:27.000But it is harder for us to, for example, close a big deal negotiating because sometimes when they see you as a woman, they might not take you serious.
00:48:35.000But I don't really know if that's a right or a privilege.
00:48:37.000Okay, so you think that women don't get taken seriously?
00:49:01.000Where was I? Okay, so I asked you, because you said, being a woman, you have issues closing deals and being taken seriously in a boardroom.
00:49:08.000And I'm saying, is it realistically because you're a woman?
00:49:11.000Rather, is it because of your inability to speak correctly?
00:49:14.000Maybe you dress a certain way that they don't take you seriously.
00:49:33.000I feel like sometimes we get seen like that.
00:49:35.000But I do think, for example, in domestic violence, when it comes to the law, we do have a lot of rights because they always go with what the woman says.
00:49:44.000But the question was, what rights and privileges a man have that you don't?
00:49:54.000The difficulty with that is, of course, it gets anecdotal because like, for example, in the media industry, in the advertising industry in the UK, most of the people in senior positions are now female and they're closing big deals and they're getting those deals done.
00:50:07.000So we'd have to drill down into the data to see if that's really accurate or not.
00:50:12.000And that's why I asked you, is it really your gender or is it your ability?
00:50:48.000I mean, okay, privilege-wise, I guess men, okay, if we get into it, they have their strength, they have their skill, they have logical thinking, they're more, yeah, they're just more logical, so, and tactical.
00:51:10.000Before I go to you, because I know you're going to be opinionated, what about you?
00:51:12.000A right or a privilege that men have that women don't?
00:51:13.000Well, I don't agree that most men are more logical than women, but a good privilege I would say y'all have is being able to whip it out and piss.
00:51:24.000I mean, I wish I could just do that sometimes.
00:51:27.000Well, logically, well, the logic thing that you're saying, it's a fact.
00:51:33.000Men are a lot more logically sound and rational than women are.
00:51:47.000We have to have some kind of like understanding here, basic concept of how the world works.
00:51:55.000Man, okay, your personal experience does not necessarily reflect reality.
00:52:02.000Just because you may be an exceptional woman when it comes to the ability to deduct the problem solved does not mean that other women can do that.
00:52:09.000Everything that you guys see was built by men.
00:52:11.000Everything that you see that's been invented by men.
00:52:31.000So, the reason why I say that men are more rationally sound than deductive problem-solvers is because the world that you guys enjoy right now has been created by men.
00:52:39.000And the reason why men are more rational, if you look at STEM, science, technology, engineering, or math, fields that typically tend to be more rationally sound, deductive problem-solving, are dominated by men.
00:54:03.000Okay, so for example, Yale had an interesting study.
00:54:06.000They actually had two different studies.
00:54:07.000One of them involved a list of resumes where they had resumes of women that were a lot more qualified than the men.
00:54:15.000Now, when they gave the resumes to the scientists to decide who would you hire, who would you not, for example, They would always pick the men, even though the women were more qualified.
00:54:24.000Now, when they blanked the names, when they couldn't see who was male, who had a male-sounding name, who had a female-sounding name, guess what?
00:54:30.000The women were picked more when they had a better reputation in those resumes.
00:54:35.000Another example of this is when it comes to music, for example.
00:54:41.000They did a study where they were deciding, okay, who's going to be in the orchestra, who's not, et cetera, et cetera.
00:54:46.000The men were always overwhelmingly picked until they decided to have blind auditions, where, curtain down, you can only hear the music.
00:55:04.000I'm familiar even with that second study.
00:55:06.000They had to conduct it one more time because a variable that they didn't account for was that women were more likely to wear high heels and that the sound of their high heels clicking across the stage impacted the judge's ability to neutrally judge them blind.
00:55:47.000That's kind of my example, but that's really a right or a privilege.
00:55:51.000She's saying that women have more privilege with getting selected in science.
00:55:56.000What was the position specifically that the men were selected over the women?
00:55:59.000Yes, in STEM, even though they had less qualifications STEM-wise.
00:56:02.000When they did the blind studies, when they decided to blank out the names, the women who had more qualifications in STEM started getting picked more.
00:56:08.000Okay, well, realistically speaking, if a woman applies for a STEM job and a man applies for a STEM job, that woman is far more likely to get the position because of affirmative action.
00:56:16.000And all these job fields overwhelmingly want women in them versus men.
00:56:20.000They overwhelmingly want women, but that doesn't mean that that necessarily always translates to the picking process.
00:56:25.000So that refutes your claim you just made just now that women are more likely to get...
00:56:28.000Men are more likely to get the same positions when in reality, these jobs, right?
00:56:32.000Anything that's male-dominated, whether it's construction, law enforcement, STEM, science, technology, engineering, math, plumbing even, any type of blue labor job, if a woman applies, they're going to want to put her there for some type of workplace diversity.
00:56:44.000But we just demonstrated how it's not a matter of a lack of educational attainment on the female candidates' parts.
00:56:52.000It's about trying to dismantle these social biases that exist against women, even though they're more than qualified to be in these positions and be in these sectors.
00:56:59.000Is it possible that there are societal biases against men, though?
00:57:12.000There's this perception that the woman isn't going to be as good as the job as the man in these studies.
00:57:18.000But I mean, is there not equal perceptions that go to the detriment of men in society as well?
00:57:27.000I've seen these resume studies before as well, where a man and woman are both equally qualified and when they take the names off, they overwhelmingly pick the women.
00:57:35.000How would they overwhelmingly pick the woman if they don't know it's a woman name?
00:57:38.000No, I'm saying, like, I've seen it where the person, right, he has a job resume, and he didn't get hired, but applies to the same positions, changes it to a female name, they give him a call back.
00:59:08.000But even if I grant you some of those premises, you're saying that women are being unfairly advantaged in certain STEM positions where they're being selected simply because employers want to have more women in their industries, right?
00:59:23.000I've seen women that are less qualified than men get positioned, whether it's STEM, plumbing.
00:59:29.000I'll never forget, one girl came on the show.
01:00:08.000So if you're saying men are more logical, they're ruling the workplace, you know, they're the ones who get everything, why are they making this so illogical choice of hiring women that are less qualified?
01:00:17.000It seems like there has to be some underlying...
01:00:22.000Having one or two female employees that are incompetent and not as efficient, Does not override the other 80 maybe male employees that are competent and they're able to simultaneously, look, we're not sexist.
01:00:40.000The image, okay, the positivity of the image of being a diversified workplace overrides the minor loss of time and efficiency with a woman.
01:00:50.000In the vast majority of cases, women are simply hired over male candidates just for PR reasons.
01:01:52.000They're going and dealing with victims, which is cool because women tend to be more interested in people versus men are more interested in things.
01:01:58.000But do you consider that less important or do you consider that also very important?
01:02:01.000Well, to the mission of the agency, it's at the bottom of the totem pole.
01:02:04.000The mission of the agency is to go after the top criminals and use sophisticated means to go after the top criminals, not necessarily do outreaches at universities.
01:02:13.000Though that's a valid way, I guess it's valid, that at the end of the day, the agency is there to arrest the worst criminals.
01:02:19.000Well, even in criminal justice sectors, what do you think is used more, a pen or a gun?
01:02:28.000In sectors of criminal justice related to law enforcement, SWAT teams, even FBI investigations, how often would you say it's more likely that those employees need to use a pencil throughout their day or a gun?
01:02:42.000Writing reports and being intelligent is the most important thing in running investigations.
01:03:06.000It's not that relevant, and the men still dominate.
01:03:08.000What I'm trying to say, ladies, the only reason I even brought that up, that's just one nuanced example.
01:03:12.000What I'm saying is that in law enforcement, construction, engineering, technology, any type of position that is male-dominated, when women enter, they're greeted with open arms and they get a hiring benefit over men.
01:03:36.000Well, there's no need to say male-only announcements when you're saying these fields are already dominated so much by men, right?
01:03:45.000You also gotta remember, too, that women choose to not go into these careers.
01:03:49.000Why do women choose not to get into these careers?
01:03:55.000Because they're interested in people, not things.
01:03:58.000I feel like we've demonstrated that there are women who are interested in these things, but then you're already assuming that they're necessarily less competent than their male counterparts.
01:04:07.000So then it's not even for lack of interest.
01:04:09.000You're saying that they're just like always going to be more remedial, less skilled.
01:04:14.000There's a multitude of reasons as to why they may not choose to go into certain fields or whatever, but it's a bunch of different things.
01:04:21.000Women just aren't interested in the same things that men are.
01:05:20.000So then you might be thinking, oh, doesn't that prove the point?
01:05:22.000Women are just more interested in languages?
01:05:25.000Well, it seems that the retention of women who realized it was a computer logic course and decided to apply next year to the next level of it was extremely high.
01:05:37.000So if you're really saying women are less interested in, let's say, computer science, then that retention rate wouldn't make sense.
01:05:43.000It would go dramatically down the next year, but it didn't.
01:05:45.000Which shows that, hey, maybe the barrier of entry is a little bit more intimidating to women, but once they're in these fields, it seems like they do like it.
01:05:56.000They've already proved this, that women are interested in people and men are more interested in things.
01:05:59.000In the Scandinavian countries, where it's the most egalitarian and the most equal, okay, Women, what they found is the women refer even more to what they naturally want to do.
01:06:10.000The women go more into the social sciences, more into the nursing, more into the social work, etc.
01:06:14.000And the men go even more into the science, technology, engineering, and math.
01:06:19.000This has been proven in Scandinavian countries, which are far out of us when it comes to egalitarianism and equality.
01:06:24.000So, simply put, Women are interested in different things than men are, and there's nothing wrong with that, but we are biologically different, which changes the way we view the world, the way we view each other, the way we view work.
01:06:43.000If you look at most of the millionaires, most of the people that are high net worth, et cetera, if you look at versus all the women that are high net worth, they got it through divorce, they got it through inheritance, et cetera.
01:06:51.000Men on the other hand, earn the money.
01:07:05.000Have you considered in Scandinavian countries, right?
01:07:09.000You're saying, oh no, like, you see women are more into these gender roles, etc, etc.
01:07:14.000But in these Scandinavian countries, it seems like there's no real incentive to change or to go more into, like, let's say STEM fields, if all the women fields are being paid an equal amount, if not extremely high.
01:07:43.000Going back on the study, can I speak please?
01:07:44.000Let her speak one second, one mic at a time.
01:07:46.000So while you spoke about those two studies from the college, Yale, whatever you spoke about, do you know why when they knew which gender it was that they chose men even though that the women were higher qualified?
01:10:22.000The emotional response to a car coming out of you would be doing what the deer does and just staying there and actually being paralyzed in fear, because fear is an emotion.
01:10:29.000The logical response is running, yeah, the emotional, the logical response is getting out of the way.
01:11:29.000Okay, so how many of you at this table have been in a situation where they were held either at gunpoint or you've had a speeding car coming at you at 150,000 miles and you didn't do the fucking backflip?
01:12:09.000I think fundamentally, I think it's, I don't want to say disingenuous, but I don't think that whether you stand there like a deer in the headlights or whether you run like hell when the car comes towards you,
01:12:25.000I don't think that impulse in that moment can be said to be logical.
01:12:30.000I I think you could apply logic to it afterwards.
01:13:03.000And I graduated when I was 14 years old.
01:13:05.000So, it's not the same as getting almost ran over by a car.
01:13:08.000That's not the same emotion versus logic.
01:13:10.000Because when I get frustrated as a woman and I'm not able to solve a problem, I'm getting frustrated I can't even solve the problem until I'm calmed down later and I come back later.
01:13:17.000Non-emotional, and I can solve the problem with logic.
01:13:31.000So, ladies, I think The takeaway here is that men are superior deductive problem solvers, especially in the face of pressure.
01:13:37.000If you don't believe me, this is why if you look at Formula One drivers, NASCAR drivers, professional chess players, etc., where there's no necessary strength difference, right?
01:13:46.000But it's just like, okay, operating under pressure, using my mind, being a deductive problem solver, using logic, using ration, men are superior.
01:13:52.000And if they weren't, there'd be more female chess champions.
01:13:54.000There'd be more Formula One drivers that were women.
01:13:56.000There'd be more pilots that were men, that were women.
01:13:59.000But men overwhelmingly dominate these positions.
01:14:21.000Well, the domination and over-representation of men in these sectors doesn't necessarily mean that they are more qualified.
01:14:27.000To draw a parallel with race, white people are over-represented in every aspect of government, and black people and non-white people are clearly not.
01:14:38.000From there, does it then follow that white people are genetically superior to black people?
01:14:57.000You can make the same comparison to the NBA or the NFL. Like, people, we all understand that black people are better at playing sports than white people because of the genetic makeup.
01:15:18.000African Americans have far more fast-twitch muscle fibers, which is what is utilized when playing sports that require explosiveness, building muscle mass, etc.
01:15:29.000Black people dominate almost every other race when it comes to fast-twitch muscle fibers, which is obviously used in sports.
01:15:36.000Race is real, just like gender is real.
01:15:38.000It's the same reason we understand why Asians are the best at math.
01:15:43.000Look, you can make these generalizations about race and it's fine, but now that we try to equate it to gender and you say it's not because of the opportunities, but it's just race is real just as much as it is.
01:15:51.000When it comes down to gender, though, the facts that you guys are stating and the statistics and all that shit is actually changing.
01:16:03.000Because all you guys men think you guys are stronger and this and that, but it's actually reversing because all you men are actually turning into women.
01:17:21.000I'm just trying to say that you clearly believe that biological explanations are the reason that we see men on top and overrepresented in every sector of society for the most part, right?
01:23:00.000We've got to keep the conversation somewhat high IQ. They're just jealous of the attention that the spotlight wasn't on them for five seconds.
01:25:12.000So when people talk about like, oh, you know, well, now all these barriers are down.
01:25:17.000Why aren't women like going into these fields?
01:25:19.000It also doesn't make complete sense because when it comes to people growing up deciding what careers they want to, what they look at first is, OK, what about the people like me?
01:26:32.000It's not because they're less logical or less inclined.
01:26:36.000Yeah, media representation plays a huge role in these things.
01:26:40.000So if you are growing up and you're socialized or consuming media in which men are overwhelmingly represented in these fields, and then even in fictional media, women are not depicted or minority demographics are not depicted in these roles.
01:26:56.000So you think it's brainwashing and it has nothing to do with your genetic makeup?
01:27:01.000I mean, I disagree with the framing of brainwashing.
01:27:12.000That's something that you obviously notice in the same way that Black people notice that they're not represented in the highest facets of government and whatnot.
01:27:21.000There can be a chilling effect in which people self-select and feel like they're not welcome in those fields.
01:27:26.000And it's not for lack of qualifications, but...
01:27:30.000It's because they don't feel empowered to do so.
01:27:34.000I know that word is corny, but it's true.
01:27:36.000Okay, so the point is, we are not equal.
01:27:40.000And if you want, I have straight, real stories, not statistics and studies.
01:28:44.000Because there's been so many things addressed here, whether it's women having certain, you know, not having certain accesses to certain privileges and accesses that men do versus, you know, races not having certain opportunities presented to them, etc.
01:28:56.000And though these barriers did exist, right?
01:28:58.000You guys were talking about 60s, 70s, etc.
01:29:01.000I would argue in today's day and age, we've corrected to a point where it's damn near overcorrection.
01:29:05.000And I would say, yeah, I would say African Americans have equal opportunities to whites that whites honestly don't get the benefit of.
01:29:14.000A lot of affirmative action, let's be honest here, if you're a woman, black, Hispanic, Native American, etc., you have a leg up in certain types of institutions and education that Caucasians don't.
01:29:25.000If the majority group is already overrepresented in these industries, why would they need affirmative action?
01:29:54.000Usually affirmative action plays out like this.
01:29:56.000All else being equal, when the only variable that's different between two resumes is that you have a black candidate and a white candidate, affirmative action ensures that black candidates in that specific case will be prioritized over the white candidate.
01:30:09.000So explain to me how there's diversity hires, why they incentivize African Americans and or women.
01:30:15.000They put job postings literally for any other demographic except for Caucasians.
01:30:21.000And specifically in Ivy League schools, they give acceptance to people who aren't Asian because they have too many Asians dominating them in all the studies.
01:30:28.000Yeah, there are definitely issues with the ways.
01:30:30.000And your point, you missed the point earlier, but she said that it's because of media and it's because of what we see.
01:30:35.000Women don't see other women succeeding.
01:30:38.000You said there's a lack of empowerment, and I would argue that there's too much empowerment, there's too much girl boss.
01:30:43.000That's why you saw this whole panel say that I'm a girl boss, I'm a queen, I'm a trapper, I'm in charge, I'm married to the game, saying all these masculine qualities because of She-Hulk, because of Megan Thee Stallion.
01:31:42.000They wouldn't say any of the people that you're citing.
01:31:44.000Yeah, so that kind of actually proves my point, right?
01:31:47.000They see Kim Kardashian, a famous influencer, and they see that she's successful, so they think, oh, maybe I can be successful going down that route.
01:31:56.000But they don't see, oh, famous female scientists, for example.
01:32:01.000So they don't think, oh, I can go down those routes and be successful.
01:32:04.000If those influences exist, even for superficial sectors of society, like social media influences, we're saying that it could be the case, and it obviously is the case, that there could be a more positive influence to be found in women's representation in media,
01:32:21.000in which there are positions of economic power.
01:32:24.000But should that be proof as to why influencers are looked up to as the role models for women?
01:32:28.000Because what they really want is attention.
01:33:26.000That's the Well, you also got to remember too,
01:33:43.000because of the things that I cited before...
01:33:46.000Being just honest with you, women are just lazier than men.
01:33:48.000And women don't want to accept this, but men are far more prone to work harder.
01:33:52.000They're less likely to take vacation time.
01:33:54.000They're more likely to work more hours.
01:33:56.000Men on average just work harder than women in every stat across the field.
01:34:01.000So employers are within their rights to go ahead and pick men in certain endeavors because they know they're going to get a better employee.
01:34:07.000And then on top of that, when women have children, a lot of times I've seen lawyers, doctors, etc.
01:34:11.000They have children, their whole mindset changes.
01:34:25.000They did a study in Ireland with COVID, right?
01:34:28.000When it was time to return back to the office, return back to the workforce, most of the women elected to stay home and take care of the loved ones versus go back to the workforce.
01:34:36.000And there's nothing wrong with that, but that just speaks to the biological differences between the two genders.
01:34:41.000Men understand that That if we don't go out and create excess resources, we will never be taken seriously from our counterparts.
01:34:47.000But women, on the other hand, don't have to create excess resources.
01:35:08.000I take an issue with your framing, even from the start, because what you're characterizing as women behaving in a lazy way, I feel like you're undervaluing the product of domestic labor that women overwhelmingly Do in the home,
01:35:24.000rearing children, care work, caring for elderly, or even in the sectors of work that they work in, like social work and stuff like that.
01:36:53.000But do you see how these things become like self-fulfilling prophecies?
01:36:57.000And on the one hand, I'm saying that women are relegated to these roles not by choice, but by social biases where the expectation is for women to care for children, to be the homemakers.
01:37:08.000And then from there, you're saying, oh, well, they don't want to work.
01:37:22.000To care for children, then I'm not going to characterize their choice to stay home and rear those children when they know that there is not necessarily going to be a man in their life to step up and do it, depending on their life circumstances.
01:37:33.000But she's saying it's not something, it wasn't really a choice, just hardwired in her DNA to be the nurturer.
01:37:38.000It's not an active decision, it's just something natural that happens.
01:38:05.000I really don't understand because it seems to me that if you're a woman and you are trying to take care of another human being, you will be focused on amassing as many resources as you possibly can to take care of your child.
01:38:17.000It seems like the natural extension of motherhood.
01:38:25.000So it seems like both people, if they have a child, their natural inclination is, let's increase as many resources as we can to take care of their child.
01:38:33.000If both parents are there, it's going to be the father whose responsibility is to take the resources and the mother's responsibility to nurture.
01:38:47.000The reason why I'm saying, oh, they're not separate is because it feels like a false dichotomy between taking care of your child and trying to create excess resources.
01:38:56.000So, for example, if you are taking care of your child, you're trying to make sure that they're having a good time, that they're, you know...
01:39:03.000Have access to as many things as possible.
01:39:05.000You'll want to have some extra money, right?
01:39:08.000Or even if you have the man in the household, it seems logical to say, oh, the more money we have, the more opportunities we can provide our child.
01:39:16.000Hence why women would also be interested in the field as well or try to balance both as much as possible.
01:40:21.000Women on average typically want a man that makes about 56% more money than they do.
01:40:25.000Women prefer the man to be in a breadwinner position if possible.
01:40:28.000Now, are there situations where the woman is the breadwinner and the man stays at home?
01:40:32.000Yes, but we've seen these marriages fail and these relationships fail overwhelmingly.
01:40:35.000When a man is in a breadwinner position, that almost inevitably puts him in a leadership role, which is women tend to find attractive.
01:40:41.000Women, if left to their own devices, would prefer a man to be in a breadwinner slash leadership role in the relationship.
01:40:47.000Now, does that mean that there are girls out there that are okay with providing resources and have the guy be behind the scenes?
01:40:52.000Or maybe they both provide resources, for sure.
01:40:55.000But in general, if I lined up 100 women and I said, would you prefer to be the breadwinner or would you prefer your man to be the breadwinner and he can only be the breadwinner and you can stay at home?
01:41:03.000Most women, especially if they have small children at home, would overwhelmingly prefer the man be the breadwinner.
01:41:10.000So I get what you're saying when it comes to providing resources, etc.
01:41:41.000I'm not saying anything you said is wrong, by the way.
01:41:43.000I just want to offer also another alternative way to think about this.
01:41:48.000A really big reason why women care so much about the amount of money men make goes back to the fact that, oh, women, even if they made the same amount of men, most of the time, I think over 50, 60, whatever percent of the time, are expected to take care of the household chores as well.
01:42:05.000So if a woman and man are making around the same amount of money and then they go back home, well, she's still expected to do the majority of the labor.
01:42:12.000She's still expected to clean, do the laundry, wipe the house, everything.
01:42:16.000And this is why so many women leave the workforce.
01:42:21.000This is why so many women leave the workforce because they understand that I can't do all of this, so I'm going to have to concede to some point.
01:42:28.000So I'm going to have to focus more on the children.
01:42:29.000So they leave the workforce, and who takes the L there?
01:42:32.000Well, the employer, because now I spent this money to train this woman up.
01:42:38.000Now she's leaving to go back to her child, which again, the employer is within their right to be like, okay, statistically speaking, this woman might be a liability for us, right?
01:42:47.000In the future, say this might be a reason why they hire a man over a woman.
01:42:51.000So it's a very logically sound and decisive decision to make for the betterment of the company.
01:42:56.000But what I'm saying is that companies will still hire women knowing that this is This is a potential of what may happen with them as far as their employee.
01:43:05.000The point that I'm trying to illustrate here is that you're saying, oh, women are more inclined to find a man that earns more, et cetera, et cetera, because that's within their nature.
01:43:13.000And what I'm trying to say here is that another reason why women are inclined to look for men who earn more is because if they're going to be socially pressured into these roles anyways, well, fuck, I don't want to make the majority of money and do the majority of housework.
01:43:27.000And most governments in most countries, like in the United States, we don't have the civic infrastructure to support women making alternative choices.
01:43:34.000So when you have a child in a marriage, somebody has to take care of that child.
01:43:38.000Most often, the responsibility falls towards the women.
01:44:00.000So, the civic infrastructure necessary to enable women to stop being the ones who are solely assumed to be the primary caretakers in their home for children and for domestic labor would be like paid paternity leave.
01:44:14.000You know, that would take the burden off of the employers of any private company to have to pay an employee, a female employee who takes maternity leave.
01:44:23.000That burden is then shifted to taxpayers, to the state, absorbed by everybody else.
01:44:27.000And there's a net positive benefit to that because you want So long as children are cared for and looked after, I feel like that's in everybody's benefit within a society.
01:44:37.000It doesn't necessarily have to be the mom.
01:45:05.000The reason why, listen, it doesn't matter what I personally think.
01:45:09.000The reality is, is when the woman is in a breadwinner position, divorces go up, relationships fail, it doesn't work.
01:45:15.000It sounds great on paper, and this is the problem with, no offense to you ladies, you guys are very leftist and liberal in your views, which is fantastic, because I wish the world operated the way that you guys think it should, and ideally.
01:45:27.000Women don't respect and they don't take men seriously.
01:45:30.000They earn less money than they do on a balance of probabilities.
01:45:33.000Most women want to be with a man that earns significantly more than they do, about 56% to be exact.
01:45:39.000And that is how relationships typically stand together and marriages stay strong is when the man is in a breadwinner position with the woman.
01:45:52.000Myra raised an interesting point there, which is, is this expectation, let's say, for women to do the child-rearing and to be at home, is that a societal expectation, or is it in fact an innate sort of expectation that exists between men and women anyway?
01:46:07.000And I would argue it's a societal expectation.
01:46:09.000But don't you think now that kind of everything's up for grabs?
01:46:12.000Because I don't think anybody in mainstream society would say a man shouldn't stay at home and look after the kids.
01:46:18.000I think now anybody can really design their lifestyle as they want to.
01:46:23.000I don't believe there's any societal expectation against it now.
01:46:55.000I kind of understand where you're coming from.
01:46:57.000I think there's two things to take into consideration.
01:47:00.000The reason why I kept talking about before, about, oh, you know, women are expected to make more like the domestic house chores, etc., etc., is because when you talk about, oh, men having to earn higher, well, if they earn the same amount or less, the woman is still doing more work at the house and outside of the house.
01:47:15.000So that's why women are looking towards people who earn more, because that way it's a little bit more even.
01:47:20.000Are you saying, okay, now there's less societal expectation, men can go and stay at the house, etc., etc.?
01:47:27.000Yes, change takes a little bit of time.
01:48:29.000But the leftist ideology is when you don't have kids, when you're young, when you're in college protesting, and then you start creating everything as a social construct and you ignore what reality is.
01:48:40.000That's when leftists start saying that gender...
01:48:43.000But I'm seeing the parallels, like the she-they thing, that you're saying gender is a social construct, these ideas and these expectations are a social construct, race is a social construct.
01:48:53.000The reality is race is real, gender is real, and biology is real.
01:48:57.000All of these expectations exist for a reason, not because some men just created this, it's because this is where we fall in line.
01:49:03.000It's not a societal expectation because someone just wrote up these rules and decided to persecute women.
01:49:49.000Man goes to work, he creates resources, excess resources for him and his family, comes back, gives the money to the wife and the children, We're good to go.
01:50:19.000Was built on men going to work, creating resources to be able to get a wife, getting a wife, and creating a nuclear family.
01:50:53.000I use the nuclear family as simply an example for the United States in this example.
01:50:58.000What I'm saying in general, the world was built...
01:51:01.000Optimally, and we were able to progress as a species by men going to work, hunting and gathering, while women stayed at home and took care of the home.
01:51:09.000So, I'm not saying men aren't capable of doing it, but what I'm saying is that to operate optimally, men go work, women stay at home.
01:51:57.000And it's funny that you realize that after becoming a mother, because this is the reality of modern feminists and leftists, is they run around saying all this stuff after they leave college, a woke indoctrination camp, and they make all these idealistic expectations about this is how it should be.
01:52:09.000And you were like that, too, until you had a kid and you realized, this is how I'm hardwired.
01:52:13.000But this is why there's more people not having kids.
01:52:25.000Because as I said, I reckon all bets are off.
01:52:27.000So I reckon in 2023, any couple could get together in Miami or London or anywhere else and they could agree between them, right, the guy's going to stay at home and the woman's going to go to work.
01:52:38.000There's no societal pressure against that.
01:52:40.000But imagine if you're a guy and you write on your Tinder profile or whatever, yeah, I want to be a stay-at-home dad and I just want you to go out for work and I'll look after him.
01:53:12.000If a guy wrote on his profile, what I'm looking for is, I want to be a stay-at-home dad, and you earn the money, and I'm just going to sit at home and look after the kids.
01:53:21.000How attractive is that going to be in general?
01:53:25.000Do you think anybody who's putting that on their Tinder profile is going to attract a mate?
01:53:28.000Like, I just want to be a stay-at-home mom.
01:54:26.000If a guy said, oh, I want to be a good father, I want to focus on raising my children, and, like, you know, I'd be willing to, like, do the housework to be able to be a good father, I would find that attractive.
01:54:38.000Perhaps not, but, like, I can think of a ton of female archetypes now that would find that arrangement to be preferable.
01:54:45.000So if you're a woman who's, you've worked your ass off to go through, you know, four years of college, you get your JD, you become a lawyer, and you are only looking to move up within your field.
01:54:55.000But you also want to have a family, and you want somebody there to care for your children.
01:55:52.000Because men don't give a shit about a woman's ability to provision.
01:55:56.000However, women care a lot about a man's ability to provision.
01:55:59.000Now, what you said before, if a woman wants to go in and climb the ranks and make money, etc., that sounds great on paper, but guess what happens when women make more money and go up the social status?
01:56:07.000They want a man on their level, if not better.
01:56:10.000So as women make more money and get more status, they want a guy equal, if not preferably better.
01:56:16.000So women become victims of their success most of the time.
01:56:19.000And this is why career women chronically stay single because they can't find a guy on their level that fulfills their hypergamous need to be with a man that is better than them.
01:56:26.000Women want a man who's superior to them in almost every way.
01:56:33.000Well, you know, guys don't want to do chores.
01:56:35.000Or if a guy didn't want to do chores, I'd be attracted to that.
01:56:37.000The reality is, for most women, that is at the bottom of the list.
01:56:40.000If they were the guy that's capable, they want a man that could provide chores and staying at home with the child is irrelevant to most women.
01:57:30.000All these social changes that you're talking about, women are more empowered, they make more money, they're more successful, more educated than ever before.
01:57:40.000Women are less happy now than they've ever been, and they're more empowered than they've ever been.
01:57:44.000It's been going down since the 1970s that women-approved ratings of happiness has gone down, while anti-depression medication, et cetera, has gone up.
01:57:52.000Also, relationships are in the shitter.
02:00:44.000You still want a man that can provide and capable of providing, even if you make your own money.
02:00:49.000This is why women that make their own money make $100,000 Still want a guy that makes about $156,000 per year.
02:00:54.000So what I'm saying is, you're saying, well, attraction trends change or whatever, but the one trend that has not changed at the beginning of time is women have always been attracted to men that have resources, money, and status.
02:01:06.000That is why Genghis Khan owns all of Asia and people walk around and there's a percentage of a bunch of Asians that have his DNA. This is why people...
02:01:15.000This is why, right, women have always shared one high-value guy.
02:01:20.000Like, women are okay with sharing men because that's how important resources are.
02:01:24.000Are they interested in those qualities in and of themselves or what they can understand they enable and the results that they can enable for their children?
02:01:30.000Like, if you're saying that women have this maternal instinct to take care of their children.
02:01:34.000You're incentivized to prioritize these qualities in men because right now the social paradigms that exist lead to incentives that help women care for their children.
02:01:43.000So those charismatic men, strong men, make them more inclined to be higher earners.
02:01:49.000But women would just as soon adopt lots of different strategies and drop traditionally masculine tendencies in men and become attracted to whatever they believed would help secure resources for their child.
02:02:02.000And that can look a lot of different ways, don't you agree?
02:02:04.000Listen, it doesn't look like a soy boy pussy faggot.
02:03:30.000Can I just quote something from a Renaissance painting from a Renaissance artist, Leonardo da Vinci, and the quote's not exactly correct, it's not verbatim, but y'all can look it up.
02:03:40.000Her fat arc and full bosom was the firm sign of her ripe fertility.
02:03:43.000That's just the matriarch of all the Renaissance paintings and why the women were slightly thicker than natural.
02:03:55.000It was about fertility because women were seen as fertility since the dawn of time, just like the Sumerians, which was the first civilization, our first dated civilization.
02:04:17.000The men were the ones that went on the hunt.
02:04:20.000And that's how the whole story of the Anunnaki designed humanity is men would lead, men would fight, men would be the warriors, women would be the kept trophies in that sense.
02:05:21.000You were trying to say something as far as...
02:05:23.000My argument, just to boil it down, and I think their argument is as well, is that there's hardwired traits that women look for in men, and it's not necessarily...
02:05:32.000You guys are arguing that it's more of like a societal construct.
02:05:36.000We're arguing, no, it's a biological construct that you can't necessarily debate.
02:05:40.000And though you guys are able to I guess, rationally say in your heads, well, I would like a guy that's like this.
02:05:46.000The overwhelming majority of women would disagree with you guys.
02:05:49.000I'm not trying to speak to my personal preferences and project them onto other people.
02:05:52.000I'm just trying to look at alternate explanations as to why it's been possible for these standards to change for women.
02:05:58.000So are you making an argument that you don't even necessarily believe in?
02:06:21.000I'm not hypothesizing, but like what we were saying with fertility, like at one point, the image of fertility for a woman was somebody who was slightly more overweight, chubby, Rubenesque.
02:06:39.000You also gotta remember that what females are attracted to Men are attracted to anything like you're like we can't conflate what men are attracted to versus what women are attracted to.
02:06:54.000We're talking specifically about what women want.
02:06:57.000The argument is is that what women want is It's fairly regimented, right?
02:07:01.000And it's been, since the beginning of time, status and money has been important, which is why I'm making the argument, if a woman has left her own devices, she's almost always going to want a man that can provide security.
02:07:12.000And status and income are good indicators of that.
02:07:32.000So basically, you're talking about how the beauty standards went from women looking fat for fertility and now they got BBLs and shit like that, right?
02:09:17.000I know this for a fact because historically speaking, marriage, right?
02:09:21.000Men, even like marrying other women, were women of wealthy families, right?
02:09:25.000So we're talking about, oh, arranged marriages to accumulate more wealth.
02:09:29.000So you can't tell me that, oh, men aren't attracted to, maybe they don't want them in modern society to out-earn them, but maybe a woman who is making a shit ton of money is more attractive than a woman who makes almost like no money if they're both working.
02:09:43.000So that's just an easy example, right?
02:10:07.000So to be like, oh no, this is only something women want, doesn't Well, I don't think men find wealth in women viscerally attractive.
02:10:15.000Again, it comes back to this visceral attraction thing.
02:10:17.000And actually, if you read Dickens or Shakespeare, there's plenty of stories where there was an arranged marriage that was going to take place.
02:10:22.000And the guys actually, no, no, I fancy, I actually really fancy the serving girl down the road and he wants to have an affair with her because he's not viscerally aroused by the woman who's wealthy.
02:10:30.000We're only talking about preferences, right?
02:10:33.000I'm also interested in how outcomes factor into this because the reality is that rich people are going to marry other rich people.
02:10:41.000Middle class people are going to marry other middle class people and lower income people.
02:10:45.000You are going to marry other low-income people.
02:11:55.000You guys do realize that men don't put as much stake in a woman's ability to earn money as women put in a man's ability to earn money, right?
02:12:22.000Right, but the type of women that he's going to find himself in the company in anyway are probably going to be women of a similar socioeconomic background.
02:12:49.000I've realized what's going on here you guys are looking through the lens Through a female lens.
02:12:54.000Like, you guys are looking at the dating market?
02:13:38.000You can't bring me up, but I can bring you up.
02:13:42.000I'm asking you, how often does that happen?
02:13:45.000Because obviously what y'all are trying to illustrate is that a rich man is not going to be scrutinizing the economic background of his potential mistresses and wives, correct?
02:15:08.000I don't think every rich woman who marries a rich man is just, oh, because of the potential, as much as it is, oh, because we're on the same level.
02:15:16.000What's attractive is wealth and stability.
02:17:00.000Like, you can have your, you know, individual preferences and stuff like that.
02:17:03.000I think sometimes you guys make, like, these huge extrapolations from, like, you know, broad statistical averages and, like, understanding social preferences or your own preferences and necessarily assume that they must be...
02:17:16.000All I'm simply saying is that what women are attracted to is typically hardwired in biology and a majority of women share the same preferences and wants in men because it's hardwired in their biology.
02:19:10.000Men understand intrinsically when we make money, we have to be independent.
02:19:17.000But when women make it, I'm independent.
02:19:18.000You're demonstrating how at your discretion, you will make certain choices to make sure that that wealth is locked up at the end of the day in yours, right?
02:19:28.000Like, even though you want to use, like, a wealthy man, hypothetical, right?
02:19:32.000He marries somebody of a lower socioeconomic background, okay?
02:19:36.000He's not just going to share and bestow wealth upon this woman in the way that you're implying.
02:19:45.000Do you guys know how many men don't get prenuptial agreements that have money?
02:19:48.000People in general are not getting prenups.
02:19:50.000I think everybody should sign if I'm a prenup.
02:19:51.000Men get destroyed by divorce in the West, and we could talk about this if y'all really want to, if you guys want to take an L, but the point is that men are far more willing to share their resources than women are.
02:20:00.000This is why women rarely marry men that make less money than them, unless that guy is on, like, maybe he's gonna be a doctor soon or whatever.
02:20:06.000Women aren't stupid when it comes to marrying like men are.
02:20:09.000So if you, okay, so you're speaking as a man, you're unmarried, right?
02:20:19.000But of the wealthy men who get married, you don't think that they have, if they have the resources to have mansions and all sorts of other luxuries in their life, you don't think they have an accountant and a lawyer telling them, dude, you gotta lock down your fucking resources.
02:20:31.000Why the fuck is Mackenzie Bezos the richest woman alive?
02:20:46.000It's interesting how sugar dating has become such a big thing now.
02:20:49.000And the fundamental paradigm of sugar dating, yes, there will be exceptions, but in general, what is the fundamental paradigm?
02:20:55.000It is that younger, attractive women get together with guys who are older and they take care of the provisioning and there's that sort of value exchange.
02:21:01.000It's interesting that that's become such a big thing.
02:21:04.000And that suggests to me that actually this...
02:21:07.000The nature of that relationship is actually hardwired in human behavior.
02:21:12.000In every female and male courtship or whatever, the man is expected to pay for the date, the man is expected to pick her up, the man is expected to foot the bill, the man is expected to be the breadwinner in the household, like sugar dating, etc.
02:21:24.000In general, when a man deals with a woman, he is expected to shell out money versus a woman is never expected to shell out money.
02:22:21.000But on top of that, like, as we pointed out before, women and men tend to take the characteristics or follow the paths of the people they see ahead of them, right?
02:22:30.000So, as we explained with the Dana Scully effect earlier, women see, oh, Dana Scully, she's, like, super into, like, science, etc.
02:22:36.000I want to now pursue a career in that.
02:26:41.000Wouldn't you have ended up with a billionaire if the only thing that men, rich, poor, middle class, if all they give a fuck about is looks?
02:31:12.000When she says, I didn't catch a vibe with him, translation, he didn't charm me, he didn't woo me, he was boring, he was lame, he talked about stocks all day, and I didn't like that.
02:31:20.000So with women, it's a multivariate analysis of what they're attracted to.
02:31:24.000You guys are looking at it, money and status, that's it, that's it.
02:33:38.000But what they're attracted to can be different things depending on the woman, which means that it's not biologically the same for all women, because some women might be more biologically attracted to a really high charisma, while some women might be more biologically attracted to a higher income.
02:33:53.000Yeah, but no woman's biologically attracted to a guy who does the housework.
02:33:57.000That's a completely separate point from what she's saying.
02:36:05.000There is something called selection bias when it comes to statistics, right?
02:36:09.000And it's this whole idea that when you get a sample size of people, if you don't account, if you don't try to make it random, there is going to be a bias in who you select, right?
02:36:18.000So, right now, being like, oh, all the people in this panel, that's not actual statistics.
02:36:44.000I'm disputing the fact that Xena's saying, oh no, you should take into account everybody here.
02:36:50.000Look, they're telling you something opposite, blah, blah, blah, blah.
02:36:52.000I'm not saying that people's own experience doesn't come into account with what they believe.
02:36:56.000I'm saying that you'd actually have to look at actual statistics if you're going to make a claim about what the majority of people believe.
02:37:02.000You've quoted two statistical studies, but you didn't have the sample.
02:38:39.000This is common sense understanding that when there's danger afoot, or something critical needs to be done, Or there's a high-pressure situation, they want the man there, not the woman.
02:38:49.000If the house is burning down, you don't want two feminists coming in that identify as they, them, coming in to pull you out.
02:38:55.000You want a toxically masculine guy that says faggot on Saturdays when he's talking to his buddies drinking beers.
02:39:00.000You want him pulling you out the fire.
02:39:02.000When you're getting robbed, you don't want two feminists showing up that call themselves Susie and Kristen that identify as him, her, them, and them.
02:39:09.000When I'm in a fire, I'm a firefighters.
02:39:10.000When I'm getting robbed, I want law enforcement.
02:39:14.000My point is, when push comes to shove, life or death, it's a high-pressure situation.
02:39:23.000Women almost always want men in this driver's seat taking care of the situation because why?
02:39:29.000Men are superior when it comes to operating under pressure.
02:39:32.000They're superior when it comes to dexterity.
02:39:34.000They're superior when it comes to decision-making when it comes under pressure.
02:39:36.000This is why men dominate in video games, whereas there's no physical difference.
02:39:40.000Chess, etc., Men dominate women when it comes to deductive problem solving.
02:39:44.000It is a fact that everything you see around the world nowadays was invented by a man that is more logically sound and rational than yourself.
02:39:51.000Those two girls that got kicked off the panel for being irrational and knocking on the door, if you had to go call the police because she started getting reckless, would you rather a female police officer come or a male police officer?
02:40:00.000If they have a gun, who the fuck cares?
02:41:38.000Of course you're capable of doing that.
02:41:42.000And women police officers are far more likely to pull a gun out and get involved in a shooting than a man because they're not as physically capable of dealing with the perpetrator.
02:42:39.000And then to prove your point, what you're doing is that you're using these exceptional circumstances to say, oh no, men in general are more illogical, right?
02:42:54.000So to me, I think it's really weird to take these exceptional circumstances and say, oh, that's proof that men on average are more illogical.
02:43:03.000The reason why we have to use exceptional circumstances is to show you that men are exceptionally better than women at said circumstances.
02:43:14.000Because for you to understand that men are more rationally, logically, and deductive problem solved than women is because I have to give you these examples so you guys understand when it comes to life or death, what are you picking?
02:43:29.000I need to be able to get a clear-cut answer.
02:43:38.000I'm saying if I had the two options, the superior option is almost always the man when it comes to deductive problem solving, rationality, logic, and emotional control.
02:44:39.000Men are less likely to pull out their guns in a physical confrontation because they can actually deal with a suspect versus a woman is not.
02:44:45.000A woman with 30 years of experience as a police officer is old and fat at this point.
02:44:49.000I have no idea the circumstances by which a woman, this female officer, would be withdrawing her gun.
02:44:55.000The ingrained biases literally would change the way that interaction would play out.
02:45:06.000You did it because you named a woman who's physically inferior, fatter, older, et cetera, versus a young rookie who is far more physically capable.
02:46:06.000The reason that they're able to argue these points is because we don't live in a dangerous society anymore.
02:46:10.000Violence never really comes up in college campuses.
02:46:13.000Then why were y'all earlier in the conversation bringing up that men are more likely to be the victim of the violent crime when they go outside?
02:46:22.000The reason that woke feminists and she-days exist is because we are in a world where our gender roles matter less because there's more equal opportunity.
02:46:30.000As soon as we revert to our gender roles, if we're all on an island and it's a bunch of us, who's going to be the one who's going to start the fire?
02:46:55.000The fact that you even tried to argue with me that a woman that's 50 years old is as physically capable as a young man that's a rookie police officer...
02:47:01.000That's quite literally what she said a second ago.
02:47:04.000That is literally not what she argued.
02:47:23.000I granted you that a 50-year-old woman is probably not physically superior to a rookie cop, but I'm saying that there are skill sets in her.
02:47:33.000But then you literally verbatim said, and you think a 50-year-old man is more physically capable.
02:48:06.000Would you prefer a young rookie cop coming in in a dire situation or a woman who is trained with 30 years experience?
02:48:15.000And me, using my deductive problem solving and my rationality and logic, I know 30 years on the job automatically puts her at around 50 years old.
02:48:23.000So I know she's not going to be as physically capable of actually dealing with a perpetrator as the young guy.
02:48:40.000Automatically, the young guy, and I didn't even think twice about it because I knew 30 years on the job, regardless of her firearm training, regardless of her experience, regardless of her time on the job, the man is going to be superior to her in this degree because when it comes to policing, when it comes to a dire situation, physicality matters.
02:48:55.000Now, then you go ahead and say, well, does that mean that a 50-year-old woman can't be fit?
02:49:17.000You don't always need a gun to defuse the threat.
02:49:20.000As a matter of fact, they teach you in law enforcement.
02:49:23.000In a law enforcement situation, they actually teach you to defuse the threat at the lowest level so that you don't have to necessarily escalate and kill someone.
02:49:29.000Exactly, you don't even need physical strength.
02:49:32.000Are you going to let this man fucking talk?
02:49:35.000You don't need to shoot a gun, but you might need a physical strength.
02:49:38.000You get the physical strength so that you don't have to shoot them.
02:49:41.000So you can actually take them down to the ground.
02:49:44.000So what I'm saying is that I prefer the younger guy.
02:49:48.000And then you said, well, can a woman be physically fit too?
02:49:51.000And I was like, she can, but not to the same level as a man can.
02:49:54.000Then you're like, well, what about a 50-year-old guy?
02:49:56.000Well, if I took a 50-year-old guy, 50-year-old woman, all things equal, that 50-year-old guy more than likely is going to be physically superior to that 50-year-old woman.
02:50:02.000Okay, but it wasn't a question of whether or not a 50-year-old man would be physically superior to a 50-year-old woman.
02:51:13.000But he didn't get scared because he said male cops are on their way.
02:51:15.000He said law enforcement are on their way.
02:51:17.000Law enforcement could be a man or a woman.
02:51:19.000Okay, so you guys have an issue with the point that we made that we said men are more logically, rationally, and logically sound than women and better deduct the problems.
02:51:49.000My problem is that you're using these extreme examples to try to prove your point.
02:51:55.000And I think that there are, and I know there are because I've literally, you can make fun of me for reading studies, but yeah, I've read the studies that can make these points in different ways or don't prove to what you're saying.
02:52:06.000So, for example, oh, who's a more logical thinker or whatever in, like, stressful situations?
02:52:11.000There are literally books written about this, about, like, actually said he's done with stress.
02:52:36.000It's going to be probably men, probably women.
02:52:38.000What you're taking, or what it seems like you're not taking into account is that there's all these other factors, regardless of sex, that actually influence how you handle stressful situations.
02:52:47.000I would strongly recommend reading the book, Upsides of Stress.
02:52:50.000Okay, then you know what you want to talk about?
02:58:01.000It's not it's incomparable from a man's Let me just say, remember ladies, that the argument was about stress and what we were arguing is that men dominate the most stressful jobs and you went ahead and you brought into sex work.
03:01:11.000So you're saying that even when it comes to men and women earning the same credential, both going through med school, incredibly difficult, becoming PhDs, getting an MD, then you want to break it down to the sector and you're like, well, they're choosing the easy sectors to being a doctor.
03:03:31.000And the two most validated emotional control measures, men have lower neuroticism, big five, and better hot executive functioning, emotion suppression, and charge situation.
03:09:31.000Go ahead, just say how you really feel, it's fine.
03:09:34.000I just really, like, I don't know, it all depends also on how...
03:09:38.000It all depends also on how, you know, everybody grew up in the household you grew up in, and of course, you know, education and all that good stuff.
03:09:48.000But me, with men and women, personally, like I said, a man has his role.
03:09:54.000You know, you provide for your family.
03:09:57.000Why would I want to go outside digging in the ground, do construction?
03:11:50.000I mean, she was literally alluding to the fact that kids can be abused in daycare, which is why she's talking about her own hypothetical reality.
03:11:58.000She's talking about her own hypothetical and then after you prefer...
03:12:01.000Listen, she's talking about Why she, why this is her opinion.
03:12:05.000So she's asking you, would you prefer to raise your own kid or would you prefer to take them to daycare?
03:12:10.000Now you're saying kids get abused at home.
03:12:58.000She literally gave a hypothetical so that you guys can also be in her shoes saying, I'm not going to put my kid in a situation and get abused.
03:13:06.000And then you respond, well, technically you're going to be more likely to get abused at home.
03:16:02.000And right now, I'm just not interested in structuring my life around children.
03:16:07.000I have professional aspirations that I'd rather prioritize.
03:16:10.000Maybe down the line, I'd consider fostering or adopting, but right now, I don't have potentially even the biological ability to do so, or even just the desire to do so.
03:16:19.000Maybe that's a reason why you think the way you think also.
03:17:16.000Even though they're trying to be funny about it, that's what they're trying to say is that women in general prefer family, children, and that home life versus chasing your career and making a lot more.
03:17:35.000Okay, so you're saying that this is what women generally prefer, but I think it's a little bit strange because when we look at the most developed nations in the world or extremely developed nations in the world, the rate of birth and children is extremely low compared to developing nations.
03:18:07.000Even though, because you're right, we are low birth rates, but what do we have to replace that?
03:18:12.000We have depressed, sad women, lowest levels of approval for women's existences than ever before.
03:18:18.000Women make more money now than ever before, and they're more empowered than ever before, but why are the approval ratings of life low?
03:18:23.000Why are the antidepressant medications high?
03:18:26.000Women making more money now more than ever doesn't speak to much because we already said that women are at an economic disadvantage because they were barred from even getting an education.
03:18:37.000Women dominate college attendance right now.
03:19:29.000Wait until having a family at 29, 30, 35 years old when you have your career and your degree.
03:19:34.000But the reality is it doesn't work that way because as you make more money, become more successful and increase your status, doors close for you.
03:19:41.000For me, as a man, as I get older, make more money, my status goes up.
03:19:44.000Doors open for me because I want a woman that's typically 7 to 10 years younger than I am and women want a guy that's older than them or at their level making the same amount of money.
03:19:54.000And high-earning men don't want women on their level financially and their age.
03:19:58.000Myron, can I propose an alternative solution to what you said before?
03:20:03.000Because earlier you were saying, oh no, like women are more depressed than ever before, et cetera, et cetera.
03:20:08.000But what a lot of people don't take into account when they talk about stuff like that is that mental health has become, it's a relatively new field, right?
03:20:17.000So back in the 50s, the 60s, before then, that just wasn't talked about.
03:20:21.000People would drown in alcoholism instead.
03:20:23.000People would just be miserable and commit suicide or like not, basically not talk about what was going on.
03:20:29.000And it's only recently with the advent of psychology, therapy, shit like that, that we've actually started getting depression medication, started talking about this shit, started, you know, not hiding it all.
03:20:41.000Have either of you ever suffered from suicidal thoughts, tendencies, or depression or been medicated on depressive drugs?
03:23:09.000I will say this, and maybe all of you guys are going to go crazy once I say this, but shrooms, honestly, one that works every couple of months has been the best thing.
03:23:22.000I think a lot of the medical field is kind of fucked up, but Personally, shrooms, exercise, going outside, absolutely good for your mental health.
03:23:43.000No, all I was going to say was, because you're saying that women aren't necessarily happy because you're saying mental health is a new thing, etc.
03:23:52.000What I'm saying is that Women are sadder now than ever before because women typically derive their pleasure being around people.
03:23:59.000Women are more social creatures than men are.
03:24:01.000And if you guys had asked us this and you asked, what are women actually superior in?
03:24:08.000That's why when a girl walks into a room, they can tell, okay, this chick is looking at me funny, etc.
03:24:12.000I mean, probably out of the corner of your eyes, you guys can see that the panel's resenting you guys because you've started a lot of arguments.
03:24:17.000But that's fine because women are socially superior to men.
03:24:19.000But you guys are so fixated on the things I said men are superior to women versus what women are superior.
03:26:02.000That is not me thinking we're here on earth for spirituality, whatever.
03:26:05.000In general, human beings are put on earth here to procreate.
03:26:08.000This is why men have the sex urges that keep them up at night with boners everywhere and why women are looking for the best guys.
03:26:14.000Now that we've established this foundation that we're put on Earth to procreate, now we've got to establish how do men procreate versus how do women procreate?
03:26:20.000Well, men procreate by creating excess resources to make themselves attractive to a majority of women.
03:26:25.000This is why you look at the animal kingdom, peacocks have their feathers out, lions keep their manes, they fight each other willing to die to do what?
03:26:33.000So whether you guys want to say, we're put on Earth for ourselves or whatever, you look at the rest of the animal kingdom, we're all here to procreate.
03:26:39.000That's why animals kill each other for the ability to mate.
03:26:57.000So what I am saying is that feminism is a lie that tells you guys, chase a career, make money, you're going to be successful, and you'll find that man at the end of the line.
03:27:21.000Women don't derive the same pleasure from creating resources because it doesn't make you as attractive to the opposite gender to have the final input of having children and family.
03:27:30.000Men get away with that because as we create resources, we become more attractive.
03:27:33.000We can get a mate, have children, and Accomplished.
03:27:36.000Women, on the other hand, you guys got to preserve your value, young, beautiful, get the man, have children.
03:27:42.000And for you guys, you have more dire consequences because women are interested in people.
03:27:46.000And if you don't believe me, why do all the social sciences, why do all the jobs that deal with dealing with people, etc., why are they dominated by women?
03:27:54.000Now you guys can sit here and say, it's a social construct.
03:29:07.000It seems like a really high reason why a lot of women are not happy in a relationship right now or why they report being happy or single is because whenever they're in a relationship and it goes back to one of the first topics we talked about in the night is that it seems like,
03:29:23.000oh, a lot of women not just are earning the same amount as men, But also doing a bunch of like the household chores and responsibilities.
03:29:30.000So you can go back to like, and hey, maybe we can even agree here for different reasons.
03:31:53.000But it's also, obviously, guys, you know, they look around as well.
03:31:56.000That's the problem that faces all of us because, you know, it's like, you know, people get together, they get married, and then after a few years, they kind of get bored with each other.
03:32:02.000And that's the other difficulty that everybody has to...
03:32:05.000And I know you're saying that women report being single, being happier.
03:32:12.000And it's interesting that the women that were polled were in their 20s because when women in their 20s, they always think that they can do better.
03:32:18.000But that dark reality doesn't set in until you hit your 30s that you can't get the best guy that you used to get when you were 21 versus being 31.
03:32:26.000And I hate to say it, ladies, but your sexual market value is perishable.
03:33:44.000There's a reason why when you look at little boys versus little girls, little boys play with action figures, little girls play house, and they want to walk down an aisle in a white dress.
03:33:54.000Like, every woman down the line wants to get married to the man of their dreams.
03:34:21.000Well, not just generalities, but if we're going to talk about how the actual biological reality of people work, you guys even have the basis wrong.
03:34:47.000It talks about how this idea of nature versus nurture is kind of a false dichotomy.
03:34:52.000And the reason why it explains that is because our environment literally in real time affects our genes or our genetic expression, right?
03:35:01.000So if you are in an environment, for example, if you're raised in an environment that is very abusive, the chances of you developing schizophrenia become a lot higher, even though schizophrenia has a lot of connections with genetics.
03:35:13.000So the whole thing, this is a very simplified version.
03:35:15.000But what I'm trying to express that I'm super schizophrenic.
03:35:18.000What I'm trying to express here is that your biology is directly related to your environment and almost vice versa as well.
03:35:26.000So these, like, things about, like, oh, no, like, it's only biology or, you know, that's it, it's just biology, it doesn't, you're not taking into account the fact that the environment literally will affect your actual biology.
03:35:37.000Okay, explain to me how when you go in the black community and black women are raised by single mothers that constantly tell them, niggas ain't shit, niggas ain't shit, fuck niggas, you can do it yourself, blah, blah, blah.
03:35:50.000Okay, your argument was environment plays a big role and can change their biology.
03:35:56.000I'm telling you, you go in the black community, you have a bunch of single mothers telling their daughters, fuck niggas, you don't need them, blah, blah, blah.
03:36:03.000You have hip-hop music that reinforces this, that men ain't shit, etc.
03:36:30.000Because by your logic, they shall all be raging lesbians that hate men.
03:36:34.000Well, I'm not saying that your environment changes at 100%, but what I am saying, what I am interested in hearing is that you're saying, like, isn't there a really high rate of, like, single mothers within the Black community?
03:36:46.000So if you're saying that women are biologically inclined to find a mate and they really want that, even though they hear, like, it's, like, oh shit or whatever, wouldn't they stay with the mate instead of being single mothers if it's, like, their biological imperative?
03:36:59.000No, because they want the But by your logic, you're saying they should hate men and be lesbians because they changed their biology, but they still deal with men.
03:37:08.000Well, I'm not saying your biology has changed 100%.
03:37:10.000No, it's just extremely variable, but it doesn't mean that your sexual orientation is going to change.
03:37:17.000But it does mean the factors that you might find attractive or how you process information can change.
03:37:33.000The only reason I see, because here's the problem here.
03:37:37.000You made a point to say your environment plays a critical role in your development where it might even influence your biological needs and wants and hardwiring.
03:37:46.000I'm arguing, regardless of the environment, your biological hardwiring is still going to stand.
03:37:52.000And I use the black community as an example where black men are constantly shit on, ostracized, ridiculed, and made fun of Yeah, black women still overwhelmingly prefer black men when it comes to dating, and on top of that, they want a black, strong, masculine man,
03:38:07.000which is why the thug frame, aka guys that are thugs and criminals, etc., are so sought after in a black community.
03:38:13.000So even though the women themselves are masculine, they still want a man who's more masculine than themselves, which proves my point, that you can't fight biology.
03:38:21.000You don't think there's environmental factors that push women towards a thug stereotype?
03:38:26.000Oh, now the environment is playing in my favor.
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03:43:45.000I think we could have spoken about multiple other topics other than just staying on one.
03:43:50.000I would ask them their last thoughts, but I really don't want to hear them talk anymore.
03:43:54.000Is it that or is it that you don't want to hear the thing that I took away from this panel?
03:44:01.000Is it the fact that even though you're physically stronger than me this year, And we established that pole dancing is not that physically demanding.