Fresh & Fit - April 01, 2024


TK Kirkland Meets Fresh&Fit!


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 22 minutes

Words per Minute

183.88885

Word Count

15,226

Sentence Count

1,648

Misogynist Sentences

67

Hate Speech Sentences

62


Summary

T.K. Kirkland is a stand-up comedian who has been in the game for a long time. He has worked with some of the biggest names in hip-hop and has a very interesting story about how he got his start in the business. He also has a new show coming up in Miami on April 26th where he will be joined by Andrew Wilson and more! Stay tuned to the show and don t miss it! If you don t already have tickets to the live show, make sure to grab them right away! Thanks to our sponsor, FreshmanCastleClub.tv for supporting the show. The Freshman Podcast is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. New Artist/Song influenced by Nipsey Hussle: Join Freshman Castle Club on FB Subscribe, Like, and Share to stay up to date on all things Native Creative. . . . Produced and Edited by Native Creative and Native Creative . , , , and . , is a proud member of the Freshman Creative Podcast. , produced and produced by the Native Creative Crew. We are proud to present "Freshman Podcast" and "Native Creative Podcast." is a program produced and edited by Freshman Collaborative. in partnership with Native Creative, a proud supporter of the show "Freshmen Podcast" and "New Artist/Producer/Song is , a proud sponsor of Freshman Collective. and is also a supporter of FreshmenCastle Club Club. is located in Miami, FL. ! joins us on the show on the 26th April 26/27th and 29th April 6th, 2019. & 29th, and 30th April, 2019, on the 27th, 2020, on the 28th, in Miami Florida, in the Miami, Florida on the 30th, in the South Coast of South Florida, Florida, and in South Carolina, Florida. on May 1st, 2019 on the 7th, April 13, 2020 on the 15th, July 6, 2020 in the 6th and July, and July, 2019 in the Bronx, on June 6, 2019 and in Los Angeles, , July 7, 2020 in New York, New York City, July, and July 7th in San in Boston, 2019 in Chicago,


Transcript

00:03:26.000 And we are live with the legend TK Kirkland, guys.
00:03:29.000 I'm excited for this one.
00:03:29.000 Let's get into it!
00:03:30.000 Let's go!
00:04:19.000 All right.
00:04:20.000 We're back.
00:04:21.000 What's up, guys?
00:04:21.000 Welcome to the Freshman Podcast, man.
00:04:22.000 We are here with TK Kirkland.
00:04:24.000 Quick announcement against the show, guys.
00:04:25.000 Rumble.com slash FreshmanCastleClub.tv.
00:04:27.000 As you guys know, we got a live show April 26th, which actually I was just talking with TK about it.
00:04:31.000 There's a very good chance he's going to be there, guys.
00:04:33.000 So y'all better get your goddamn tickets right now.
00:04:36.000 Let's see.
00:04:37.000 We're bringing up a couple of guests, girls for you guys live in the show.
00:04:41.000 We're going to be there, meet and greet, photos, everything.
00:04:43.000 Yes.
00:04:44.000 Stay tuned for it.
00:04:44.000 So make sure to come in, guys.
00:04:45.000 The tickets are affordable.
00:04:46.000 It's April 26th.
00:04:47.000 There's going to be a live event right here in Miami.
00:04:49.000 TK will be there.
00:04:50.000 We'll have Andrew Wilson there.
00:04:50.000 We're going to bring a bunch of other people there as well.
00:04:52.000 And TK, you're also doing a tour right now as we speak, right?
00:04:55.000 Yes.
00:04:55.000 Absolutely.
00:04:55.000 Catch me if you can.
00:04:57.000 Okay.
00:04:57.000 And I'm excited.
00:04:58.000 It kicks off April 12th, 13th, and 14th in Philadelphia, and I just want everybody to come through and see what all the fuss is about, about being a stand-up comedian in this game.
00:05:10.000 Yeah.
00:05:11.000 And you've been in the game for a very long time.
00:05:13.000 Legend.
00:05:13.000 You're definitely one of the most requested guests that we've gotten, people saying, hey, you need to bring TK on.
00:05:17.000 We've been working on getting him on for you guys for a few months now, and he's finally here, so I'm excited.
00:05:21.000 Yes, for a few months.
00:05:22.000 We really are.
00:05:22.000 Yeah.
00:05:23.000 So, TK, we know who you are, but the audience might not.
00:05:25.000 Can you introduce yourself real quick to the people?
00:05:27.000 Yes, my name is TK Kirkland, better known as T to the motherfucking K. Started out with one of the most legendary stand-up groups in the world.
00:05:36.000 It was the late Eazy-E, Dr.
00:05:38.000 Dre, and Ice Cube.
00:05:40.000 Eazy-E saw me perform, and the rest is history.
00:05:44.000 And from that moment on, it's been such a rollercoaster ride.
00:05:48.000 It's really been amazing.
00:05:49.000 From NWA, I met with...
00:05:53.000 Jay-Z, and then from Jay-Z to Cash 20 Millionaires, and from the Cash 20 Millionaires, did Timberland's first album.
00:06:00.000 From Timberland's first album, I did a guy named Lloyd, Play a Diary's album.
00:06:06.000 Yeah, Lloyd from Murder, Inc.
00:06:07.000 That's dope.
00:06:08.000 Then I went on tour with Ludacris for a while.
00:06:10.000 Yeah, that's my man.
00:06:13.000 Did a lot of things with my man, Luke, down here in Miami.
00:06:17.000 Uncle Luke.
00:06:18.000 Yeah, if you look at one of his albums, I wrote a skit for him, and it was called Pussyologist.
00:06:24.000 Two levels higher than the gynecologist.
00:06:26.000 So he still talks to me about that to this day.
00:06:28.000 So, you know, I did my thing in the music industry and also did my thing in stand-up comedy, and it's like I'm being reborn in a sense because...
00:06:36.000 You, Vlad, and all you young kids who have started the podcast game.
00:06:42.000 Because like I said, I've been around a long time.
00:06:44.000 So all we had was David Letterman, Arsenio Hall.
00:06:47.000 Howard Stern.
00:06:47.000 Yeah, Howard Stern.
00:06:49.000 Jay Leno.
00:06:50.000 And you had to have an agent or knew somebody that knew those people.
00:06:54.000 But I was always independent.
00:06:56.000 So I didn't have those connections.
00:06:57.000 I had the connections to the streets.
00:06:59.000 So anything that was street-oriented, I was able to get connected.
00:07:03.000 Tore with Teddy Riley and Guy and then from...
00:07:06.000 Touring with the Rough Riders and meeting my man as the manager of EVE, I was able to meet Gwen Stefani.
00:07:14.000 Oh, shit.
00:07:15.000 So if you ever watched Blow Your Mind, the video, look at it again, right?
00:07:19.000 You're in there?
00:07:19.000 I'm playing the piano with a tux on it.
00:07:23.000 Oh, wow.
00:07:24.000 Yeah, I'm playing the piano.
00:07:26.000 Okay.
00:07:26.000 And then, you know, I do the stuff with 50 Cent, you ever see Window Shopper?
00:07:30.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:30.000 Yeah, I'm the guy with the red hat, pushing the little car.
00:07:33.000 Oh.
00:07:33.000 And Window Shopper over in Monaco, Spain.
00:07:35.000 Wow.
00:07:36.000 Yeah.
00:07:37.000 Details, man.
00:07:38.000 Yeah, so I did all that.
00:07:39.000 Then I wound up doing...
00:07:43.000 The movie Baller Blockin' with the cast 20 Minutes when Lil Wayne was a baby.
00:07:47.000 He's like 16 years old.
00:07:49.000 Juvenile, toured with them.
00:07:51.000 Matter of fact, shout out to Baby and my man C. We working on something real big.
00:07:56.000 Music-wise or comedy-wise?
00:07:58.000 Because you're in all realms of entertainment.
00:07:59.000 It's going to be music.
00:08:00.000 It's going to be comedy.
00:08:02.000 We've been working on it now for a few months.
00:08:04.000 Matter of fact, I got to talk to Baby and his crew right before we came.
00:08:06.000 He didn't even know I was in Miami.
00:08:08.000 They're in California.
00:08:09.000 And shout out to Baby.
00:08:10.000 When we dropped this...
00:08:12.000 It changes the world.
00:08:14.000 Yeah, it's a game changer.
00:08:14.000 Out of everyone you've met, let's give two examples here.
00:08:17.000 One in the industry, one in the comedy industry.
00:08:21.000 Who was most impactful to your career, you would say?
00:08:23.000 I think everybody.
00:08:25.000 You know, that's why I started this thing called Who Raged You, right?
00:08:28.000 A couple years ago.
00:08:29.000 Who Raged You was really because the women I was dating, I felt like they were unprepared to be in the world.
00:08:35.000 Right?
00:08:37.000 That's a nice way of putting it.
00:08:38.000 That's the nicest way I've ever heard a guy putting it together that, yo, this girl's a fucking whore.
00:08:43.000 This is wisdom.
00:08:45.000 Who raised you?
00:08:48.000 Because a man, this is my definition, your children should not be sent into the world unless they were prepared to...
00:08:57.000 Take care of their life and move like women and move like men.
00:09:01.000 So I actually said to the young lady, I'm like, who raised you?
00:09:05.000 Because I need to meet your mother and father because she was so beautiful.
00:09:08.000 And I hate to see that we have so many beautiful women on this planet that are not properly prepared for life.
00:09:17.000 You know, let me ask you this.
00:09:19.000 And I'll ask this, but then I have so many questions about the entertainment stuff.
00:09:23.000 You've been in the entertainment game for 40 years now, right?
00:09:26.000 You're an OG. You're 60...
00:09:29.000 64.
00:09:30.000 64, right, guys?
00:09:31.000 Yes, he is 64, guys.
00:09:32.000 So you've been around for a while.
00:09:33.000 You could be my dad, bro.
00:09:34.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:09:37.000 But he's in good shape, takes care of himself, so you guys can look like this too at 64.
00:09:41.000 Yeah, you can definitely pass in your 30s or 40s.
00:09:43.000 So my question is...
00:09:45.000 Obviously, you've been around for a bit.
00:09:47.000 What is the biggest change that you've seen from back when you were in your teens to modern women today?
00:09:55.000 What's the biggest societal trend that you've seen change?
00:09:57.000 That's an interesting question.
00:09:59.000 When I was growing up, the women were more natural.
00:10:02.000 They actually ironed their hair.
00:10:05.000 Their hair was like real hair.
00:10:07.000 There was no such thing as weeds.
00:10:09.000 There was no such thing as truly eyelashes.
00:10:11.000 Your grandmother wore wigs.
00:10:13.000 Oh.
00:10:13.000 Back in the day.
00:10:14.000 You know?
00:10:15.000 The women who was going up didn't wear wigs.
00:10:17.000 Gotcha.
00:10:18.000 And they were happy with their own bodies.
00:10:20.000 There's nothing to say anything's wrong with a female wanting to do something with a breast, wanting to do something with a body.
00:10:27.000 I just think that it's not...
00:10:30.000 Worth the risk to die.
00:10:32.000 Yeah.
00:10:33.000 To change something.
00:10:34.000 To alter something.
00:10:35.000 Because you see, they don't show you the pain that these girls go through.
00:10:39.000 They don't.
00:10:39.000 Afterwards.
00:10:40.000 Yeah.
00:10:40.000 You just see the end result, right?
00:10:42.000 They go through so much pain.
00:10:44.000 BBLs are like the most risky surgeries we can do.
00:10:47.000 They can't sit down.
00:10:47.000 Yeah, they can't sit down.
00:10:49.000 I'm trying to be very knowledgeable.
00:10:51.000 There's veins underneath...
00:10:53.000 The bottom of your ass.
00:10:55.000 That if the doctor cuts that the wrong way and hits the wrong vein, there's nothing he can do.
00:11:01.000 You're dead.
00:11:03.000 Wow.
00:11:03.000 And they don't share that with the women.
00:11:05.000 Oh, wow.
00:11:06.000 And these type of things happen.
00:11:07.000 When women go out to Dominican Republic and they're in the safe houses, they're helpless.
00:11:13.000 Do you know the gangs come in there and rob the women, take their money because they're helpless.
00:11:17.000 They can't do nothing.
00:11:18.000 Oh.
00:11:18.000 So they come in there and rob them.
00:11:20.000 They got to call Western people, send them money, Western Union passport to get them out of there.
00:11:25.000 And I mean, for what?
00:11:26.000 Because we live in the era that research hasn't been done that much, right?
00:11:32.000 The women who've gotten these BBLs, these surgeries...
00:11:35.000 We don't have long-term stuff.
00:11:36.000 We don't know how it's going to come out.
00:11:37.000 We don't know what's going to happen in 40 years.
00:11:38.000 Yeah, you're right.
00:11:39.000 So you're going to have women with these old faces...
00:11:42.000 And ass dropping off...
00:11:44.000 No, body's still looking like they're young, but we don't know the effect on how it's going to affect you.
00:11:51.000 And I just don't think it's worth it.
00:11:54.000 Just me.
00:11:54.000 And here's the thing.
00:11:55.000 I'm half your age, right?
00:11:57.000 I'm 34.
00:11:58.000 And even for me, I remember just a decade ago, having plastic surgery was frowned upon.
00:12:02.000 Like, oh, what the hell?
00:12:04.000 Now it's like, if you have plastic surgery, it's almost like you don't have plastic surgery?
00:12:07.000 What's wrong with you?
00:12:08.000 Here's the thing that happened the other day.
00:12:09.000 I travel so much.
00:12:10.000 I'm sitting in the airport and I'm watching the women walk by with the fake booties, eyelashes.
00:12:16.000 Now, most women think you're checking them out because they think they're fine.
00:12:21.000 When I look at a woman that got the fake butt and eyelashes, I'm looking at you like an antique model car because it's starting to play out.
00:12:30.000 You're starting to look like an old Lamborghini.
00:12:33.000 You're starting to look like an old Rose Voice.
00:12:35.000 Like, when you first saw them, They were amazing, right?
00:12:39.000 But when you see them now, and the misconception in the world today is that women think that men like that.
00:12:46.000 You'll talk to a girl, you motherfuckers like them fake asses and fake titties, but they don't know because nobody's projecting onto the universe that, no, we really like natural women.
00:12:57.000 Yeah.
00:12:58.000 And as you guys get older, the thing that's so important is it's not about the bodies no more, right?
00:13:03.000 It's the character of the woman, character of the man, because the surface of a woman could be drop-dead gorgeous, but are you prepared for life?
00:13:11.000 After a while, yeah.
00:13:12.000 Do you have a job?
00:13:13.000 Are you an asset to society?
00:13:17.000 And what have you accomplished?
00:13:18.000 No.
00:13:18.000 It's a lot of women.
00:13:20.000 I know we're doing a panel thing after this.
00:13:22.000 My take is going to be a lot of women coming on there who don't have their lives together.
00:13:27.000 It's going to be a possibility.
00:13:28.000 Somebody might get mad at me because I'm going to talk in a mature way that you should have your life together.
00:13:33.000 And if you don't have your life together, I might have to hurt your feelings because it's serious out there.
00:13:38.000 And I'd rather intimidate a person to inspire them.
00:13:41.000 I'd rather bring something to your attention to make you say, you know what, he's right.
00:13:47.000 Let me try to get my life together.
00:13:49.000 Because one of the worst things in the world, and I'll tell you gentlemen, is you don't want to grow old and be broke in this world today.
00:13:57.000 Because the world is cruel to old people.
00:14:00.000 That's true.
00:14:01.000 You were going to say something.
00:14:02.000 Resting homes as well.
00:14:04.000 So you mentioned the dangers of getting BBLs and surgery.
00:14:07.000 We saw an entertainer, actually in the comedic role as well, this young fly.
00:14:11.000 Yes.
00:14:12.000 His girl, but she passed away and left kids behind after surgery.
00:14:15.000 Yeah.
00:14:15.000 That was tragic.
00:14:16.000 Yeah, that's tragic.
00:14:17.000 And it happens.
00:14:17.000 Yes, it happens.
00:14:18.000 But we don't see enough where it is highlighted where, hey, listen, this can happen to you if you get surgery.
00:14:21.000 You could pass away.
00:14:22.000 Yes.
00:14:22.000 Yeah, it needs to be talked about.
00:14:24.000 Kanye's mom?
00:14:25.000 Yeah, Kanye's mom.
00:14:27.000 That's very important.
00:14:28.000 I just pulled a post up, I think, today.
00:14:31.000 I want to talk about sex and love, right?
00:14:34.000 Sex makes babies, not love.
00:14:37.000 And when you have just sex, a woman wants a man to be a father to the child, but psychologically it's already...
00:14:45.000 It's complicated because when you just meet someone with a one-night stand, we're both at fault.
00:14:50.000 I didn't have a condom on.
00:14:51.000 You got pregnant.
00:14:52.000 The universe was saying you was ovulating at the same time, and all these bad things happen.
00:14:58.000 Sometimes you get great results.
00:14:59.000 You have a beautiful child and stuff.
00:15:01.000 But what we want to put into the universe is to get people to stop doing that because it's a mental...
00:15:11.000 Torture to a man to raise a child that he didn't really put love into his mother.
00:15:15.000 I never met your mom.
00:15:16.000 I never met your dad.
00:15:18.000 Don't know nothing about you.
00:15:19.000 We went out.
00:15:20.000 I saw you.
00:15:20.000 Because on this particular night, you had the best outfit on that you ever had in your closet.
00:15:24.000 So you had the jeans on.
00:15:26.000 Your titties was out.
00:15:27.000 And I'm thinking I'm going to play.
00:15:28.000 I'm buying drinks.
00:15:29.000 Get that.
00:15:30.000 Get that.
00:15:31.000 We go to the flyer spot.
00:15:33.000 Got the bad bins.
00:15:34.000 You know, you're laying back.
00:15:36.000 And I go in there being irresponsible, you know?
00:15:40.000 And I just want men to know who go out there and do the situations to please start really being considered who will be the mother of your child.
00:15:51.000 Wow.
00:15:51.000 You know what I mean?
00:15:52.000 And ladies, be careful who's going to be the man of your children.
00:15:55.000 It would save so much pain as we move forward through life.
00:16:00.000 That's just me.
00:16:02.000 I do want to say, so real quick, because I was going to ask you about, you've been in the game for 40 years, but prior to that, where'd you grow up?
00:16:10.000 Tell us your origin story.
00:16:11.000 Yeah, I grew up in Jersey City, New Jersey.
00:16:13.000 I was a track star, so I ran track.
00:16:16.000 Track led me to see a lot of great people.
00:16:19.000 In high school or college?
00:16:20.000 In high school.
00:16:21.000 And college as well.
00:16:22.000 I met Bill Cosby because I won the Melrose Games in Madison Square Garden in 1979.
00:16:28.000 It's a big event in track and field.
00:16:30.000 If you get a chance, Google Melrose Games.
00:16:33.000 I won that.
00:16:34.000 I met Bill Cosby.
00:16:34.000 Then when I got to college, I met a great...
00:16:37.000 You graduated in 1979?
00:16:38.000 Graduated in 1979.
00:16:39.000 In high school.
00:16:40.000 And when I came up in high school, at that time...
00:16:45.000 My state was the hottest track circuit in the world.
00:16:48.000 We had this kid named Ronaldo Skeets Nehemiah.
00:16:51.000 We had another young man named Carl Lewis.
00:16:53.000 All of us ran track every week, every Saturday together.
00:16:56.000 So people from all over the world would fly to come see us run.
00:17:00.000 And, I mean, we were some bad boys.
00:17:04.000 I got a question.
00:17:06.000 We're good to go.
00:17:27.000 The Golden State Killer.
00:17:28.000 Like, all these guys were running rampant in the 70s.
00:17:31.000 Absolutely.
00:17:31.000 So true.
00:17:32.000 And inflation was high.
00:17:32.000 So, like, what was it like living in the 70s?
00:17:35.000 Was it a dark time?
00:17:36.000 I mean, we had Jimmy Carter in office.
00:17:38.000 I think Nixon was president for a bit as well.
00:17:40.000 Like, what was it like that decade?
00:17:42.000 Obviously, disco music was a thing.
00:17:43.000 Crack is going to make its way into the United States soon.
00:17:47.000 Like, what was it like that decade?
00:17:49.000 Thank God.
00:17:54.000 I had track and feel.
00:17:56.000 My world was unique in a sense.
00:17:58.000 Okay.
00:17:59.000 And the reason why I say that, because my dad died when I was 14.
00:18:05.000 So it wasn't like I had a father, but I had sports.
00:18:07.000 Okay.
00:18:08.000 But I also was trying to dabble in the streets of life, right?
00:18:12.000 Okay.
00:18:12.000 You know, you see the hustlers.
00:18:14.000 Back in my day, when you saw young men hanging on the corner, for some reason, people are drawn to negativity.
00:18:20.000 People are drawn to Thinking that being street is one of the greatest things to be, but it's really the opposite.
00:18:29.000 The greatest thing is to be the most corniest person on the planet with a lot of money but have a lot of swag.
00:18:37.000 Push a minivan and have a credit card and travel the world and be a good person.
00:18:43.000 That's me all day, man.
00:18:44.000 And we have to push that more in life because the 70s is about hustling, right?
00:18:50.000 People selling crack cocaine.
00:18:52.000 People was trying to make it because it was really bad for the black man.
00:18:56.000 That decade was crazy for crime, man, in the 70s.
00:18:58.000 When you look back.
00:19:01.000 Huge.
00:19:01.000 But you saw the world changing.
00:19:03.000 You saw the DAs and the mayors coming down on crime.
00:19:09.000 But then as you get older and you get knowledge, and you see that it's all BS, right?
00:19:15.000 Because even though they're fighting crime, the government is saying people are bringing the drugs in.
00:19:19.000 So they try to confuse you and try to make you think they're doing the right thing, but they're the ones that are bringing the drugs in the game.
00:19:26.000 The thing that people have to understand, I talk about this in my stand-up, is that the government pimps the state, the state pimps the city, the city pimps the people.
00:19:37.000 And who is making decisions to better your life?
00:19:41.000 And they don't know what they're doing.
00:19:42.000 I mean, we live in a world now that in order to make it if you're homeless, you have to really go out of the country to become a Mexican or a migrant to come back in as a migrant through the border in order to get a decent living,
00:19:58.000 to get a place to live, to get shelter, because they're giving these people so much money.
00:20:03.000 Oh, because they're giving them free housing.
00:20:04.000 I see what you mean.
00:20:05.000 You're better off being an illegal alien.
00:20:06.000 You better be an illegal alien to come back than to be here.
00:20:10.000 We don't take care of our own.
00:20:12.000 And that's crazy to me.
00:20:14.000 And even back in the 70s, they didn't take care of their own.
00:20:18.000 And that's what we have wrong in this country.
00:20:22.000 Inflation was crazy too, right?
00:20:23.000 Inflation was crazy.
00:20:24.000 Back then?
00:20:24.000 But...
00:20:25.000 Somebody needs to come up with, not a hiring freeze, a payment freeze on rent, cars, for people to survive.
00:20:35.000 I'm not that old, but I read, so here's a story.
00:20:38.000 In the 50s, you can get a four-bedroom home, two-car garage, for $4,959.
00:20:48.000 Where?
00:20:49.000 Your mortgage is $49 a month.
00:20:52.000 What was this at?
00:20:53.000 This is the whole country.
00:20:54.000 Wow.
00:20:55.000 The average home cost that much in the 1950s?
00:20:57.000 Houses wasn't no $300,000, $400,000.
00:21:01.000 This happens after the 70s and prices of homes start going up.
00:21:06.000 What's happening right now is so insane that who the hell is going to be able to survive?
00:21:11.000 Your kids, our kids.
00:21:13.000 Let me ask you this.
00:21:13.000 It's going to be hard for them to survive in 20, 30 years.
00:21:16.000 Inflation was crazy back in the 70s.
00:21:18.000 Did people have a better cost of living and standard of life back then than they do now?
00:21:22.000 We understood morals.
00:21:23.000 We understood how to work, but we still was making maybe $2, $3,000 an hour.
00:21:28.000 I was around when gas was 95 cents.
00:21:31.000 So even though inflation was worse back then, they were able to still afford shit versus now people can't afford anything.
00:21:37.000 It still was bad because even though wages was low, things still was growing.
00:21:43.000 It was getting higher.
00:21:44.000 Is it better than today?
00:21:45.000 Would you say that decade is better than now?
00:21:48.000 No.
00:21:48.000 I think things are better now.
00:21:50.000 I think things are better now because I'm successful.
00:21:52.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:21:54.000 I'm not struggling, but I had to put a lot of work in.
00:21:56.000 I went through a lot of trials and errors in life, and I work hard every day to become a great man.
00:22:05.000 My whole thing in existence for the rest of my life till the day I die is to be a great man.
00:22:10.000 How many kids do you have, bro?
00:22:11.000 I have seven children.
00:22:12.000 Seven children?
00:22:13.000 Yeah.
00:22:13.000 What does it mean to be a father, you would say?
00:22:16.000 Well, I'm not your traditional dad, because for my children, it was one-night stands.
00:22:22.000 Oh, shit.
00:22:23.000 Yeah, I don't know if that was luck or bad luck.
00:22:27.000 Or the dick game was just that cold.
00:22:30.000 Yeah.
00:22:30.000 Because sometimes your dick go way up the air.
00:22:32.000 It's another story.
00:22:33.000 Pullo game week.
00:22:34.000 So, you know, when you have one-night stands, you just...
00:22:40.000 I tell my kids, listen, you mean your mom fucked?
00:22:43.000 Yeah.
00:22:44.000 You know, I'm not your tradition.
00:22:45.000 You ain't going to see me flipping motherfucking burgers and all that kind of shit.
00:22:48.000 I ain't that type of nigga.
00:22:49.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:22:50.000 But we cool, though, you know?
00:22:52.000 And that's all you can be.
00:22:53.000 But my daughters, everybody grew up to be really, really doing well.
00:22:57.000 My oldest daughter's a brain surgeon.
00:22:58.000 And I have a couple of relationships.
00:22:59.000 Brain surgeons.
00:23:00.000 Yeah, my oldest daughter's a brain surgeon out of the University of Houston.
00:23:03.000 That's dope.
00:23:04.000 My daughter is graduating from...
00:23:06.000 So all the baby mamas?
00:23:07.000 All the baby mamas.
00:23:08.000 We're respectful.
00:23:09.000 Is it seven moms?
00:23:11.000 Yeah, seven moms.
00:23:11.000 Oh, different.
00:23:12.000 Oh, wow.
00:23:12.000 And I believe in that.
00:23:14.000 I don't believe in one woman.
00:23:15.000 I think that's one of the most selfish fucking things in the world.
00:23:18.000 W! To have one baby mama.
00:23:20.000 One girl, yeah.
00:23:21.000 You know, like, I mean, there's so many beautiful wobbies that selfish.
00:23:26.000 I agree with you.
00:23:28.000 I'm teasing to the people who might be out there tripping.
00:23:31.000 You gotta be A-Con, though.
00:23:33.000 Akon, yeah.
00:23:34.000 He got a lot.
00:23:35.000 Yeah, Akon is my guy.
00:23:36.000 As a matter of fact, me and Akon was together not too long ago in Vegas.
00:23:41.000 You know, I was in this room.
00:23:42.000 You know, I was in this room.
00:23:43.000 Not that anything was going on, but we was trying to...
00:23:45.000 With the Diddy stuff going on, people might think something crazy.
00:23:47.000 Yeah, you got to say it in real.
00:23:48.000 Yeah, you got to clarify.
00:23:49.000 We had a meeting, you know, and we're going to do something overseas.
00:23:53.000 So, shout out to Akon.
00:23:55.000 You know, and I have my hand involved with a lot of stuff.
00:23:57.000 I love that, you know?
00:23:59.000 And to talk about Puff, like...
00:24:03.000 When I met Puff years ago, I met him through a young lady named Lenote Blacknor.
00:24:12.000 You know how I know that you've known her for a long time?
00:24:15.000 You call him Puff?
00:24:16.000 Yeah.
00:24:16.000 The only people that met him in the 90s call him by that.
00:24:20.000 Yeah, and I remember me and Puff being at the party.
00:24:23.000 This is when Def Jam was doing their thing, and for all the young people to know, tell you, me and Puff said, T, I want you to host my Bad Boy of Comedy thing that was going to come out on HBO. What year is this?
00:24:38.000 This is in the 90s.
00:24:39.000 90s?
00:24:40.000 Yeah, this is in the 90s.
00:24:41.000 Is Biggie still alive at this point?
00:24:42.000 Biggie's still alive.
00:24:43.000 Oh, wow!
00:24:43.000 So he's like 96, 97.
00:24:45.000 Damn!
00:24:45.000 And what's crazy about Biggie, I was with Biggie the day he died...
00:24:48.000 Really?
00:24:48.000 And I was with Tupac the day he died.
00:24:50.000 What?
00:24:51.000 Yeah, both times.
00:24:52.000 Wait a minute.
00:24:53.000 Yeah, both times.
00:24:55.000 So when Tupac was in Vegas, we all hung out together during that day.
00:25:01.000 So you were at the Tyson fight too?
00:25:03.000 I was at the Tyson fight.
00:25:04.000 Oh, shit.
00:25:04.000 So there's a mall in Vegas, and I don't know why I took what this thing called fat burners.
00:25:10.000 I wasn't fat, but, you know, you think you're doing it.
00:25:12.000 So I took these pills, you know, trying to lose weight, always trying to stay in shape.
00:25:15.000 I was trying to better my body.
00:25:17.000 We all went to the fight, but I was drinking.
00:25:21.000 And something about the alcohol didn't mix with the fat burners.
00:25:26.000 Fat burners.
00:25:26.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:25:27.000 So I said I had to go.
00:25:28.000 My body was hot.
00:25:29.000 Most fat burners are stimulants.
00:25:32.000 It's just caffeine, bro.
00:25:33.000 Yeah, it wasn't feeling good.
00:25:35.000 And I went to my hotel room.
00:25:36.000 I'm laying in bed feeling like I'm about to die.
00:25:38.000 I was in there for like six days.
00:25:40.000 And I'm watching the news, and I saw that Tupac had got shot.
00:25:45.000 And the day I got well, that I could fly, I was on my way to Charlotte to do a show, and that's the day that he died.
00:25:52.000 The thing with Biggie, when we was all in L.A., me...
00:25:55.000 Question, were you hanging out with him?
00:25:56.000 Like, you would have been...
00:25:57.000 Were you just there at the fight?
00:25:59.000 No, no, no.
00:25:59.000 We were just all cool.
00:26:00.000 I don't think I'd have been in the car with them.
00:26:01.000 No, no, no.
00:26:03.000 You would have just been at the fight.
00:26:04.000 I was well respected.
00:26:06.000 The reason why I was well respected is because me and Suge was real tight.
00:26:09.000 Gotcha.
00:26:10.000 And Suge used to be my bodyguard on tour with NWA, me and the D.O.C. So I seen Suge grow from a bodyguard to one of the most powerful men in the music industry.
00:26:21.000 Okay.
00:26:22.000 And he always, you know, Suge would just pick me up, go ride, hang out.
00:26:26.000 To this day, Suge's my guy.
00:26:27.000 So hypothetically, let's say you didn't get sick.
00:26:30.000 Do you think you would have been with that entourage that got involved in that fight?
00:26:34.000 No, I made it to the party.
00:26:36.000 Because they was on their way.
00:26:37.000 This happened before they got to the party.
00:26:39.000 So I was only there before they got there.
00:26:41.000 And I got sick.
00:26:43.000 Okay.
00:26:43.000 So you left?
00:26:44.000 Yeah, so I left.
00:26:45.000 And just so the audience knows, because some of them might be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
00:26:48.000 That night, guys, there was a big Tyson fight in Vegas, and Tupac and a bunch of guys from Death Row beat this crip up.
00:26:54.000 Right.
00:26:55.000 People tell you, I'm friends with people, but because I'm much older than everybody, I always move my own lane.
00:27:02.000 You're like the cool uncle that's there with the people.
00:27:05.000 Right.
00:27:06.000 I don't hang out with you.
00:27:07.000 I know Pac and them beat up this dude.
00:27:10.000 Yes, they did.
00:27:12.000 Lando Anderson.
00:27:13.000 Yes, who was a crip.
00:27:14.000 There was some beef.
00:27:15.000 His people had stolen a chain from somebody from Death Row.
00:27:17.000 They saw him at the casino and they beat his ass.
00:27:21.000 It's on video.
00:27:23.000 Then, when they were getting ready, they went back to the hotel, changed, and they were going to go to a nightclub.
00:27:27.000 Were you already there at that nightclub?
00:27:28.000 Yeah, I was already at the nightclub.
00:27:29.000 Okay, so they were going there, and you would have seen them if they had pulled up, but they didn't.
00:27:33.000 They didn't make it.
00:27:33.000 Because Pac got shot going to that nightclub.
00:27:36.000 Because those guys went and got a gun and went looking for them, and they found them at the red light, and that's when they shot.
00:27:42.000 Right.
00:27:43.000 And the thing that I would love about young men, if I had to look back on Tupac, understanding my life now, Tupac wasn't about that thug life.
00:27:55.000 Tupac was one of the nicest kids you could ever imagine.
00:27:58.000 I don't know if they know, he was a background dancer to Digital Underground.
00:28:03.000 Yes, he was.
00:28:03.000 He was poetic.
00:28:05.000 He went to an art school.
00:28:06.000 Right.
00:28:06.000 He's an artist.
00:28:07.000 Yeah, he was trying to give out a positive message.
00:28:09.000 And this is what happens with some men in their journey.
00:28:12.000 You can meet the wrong people and you get influenced and you go down the wrong path of life.
00:28:16.000 And then when Tupac went to jail, he was just looking for OG to guide him.
00:28:22.000 He was looking for help to guide him to get him on the right track.
00:28:25.000 And that didn't happen.
00:28:26.000 And it led him out, right?
00:28:28.000 It should bail him out.
00:28:29.000 Think about it.
00:28:29.000 He should bail him out.
00:28:31.000 And Tupac wasn't even out of jail a year and he died.
00:28:34.000 Wow.
00:28:35.000 Oh yeah, he died while he was on bond.
00:28:37.000 He was on bond.
00:28:38.000 Yeah, he never even lived the whole year when he got out of jail.
00:28:41.000 Do you think that's why he had such extreme loyalty to Suge and Death Rose?
00:28:44.000 Because like, Suge got him out of that situation, paid for his lawyers.
00:28:48.000 See, I'm going to go deeper in life with you guys.
00:28:51.000 See, I'm going to talk about the universe.
00:28:53.000 Okay.
00:28:54.000 See, some people get it.
00:28:57.000 Sometimes the universe will send you to jail to get your life together.
00:29:00.000 And you gotta stay there to say, I'm gonna get my life together.
00:29:04.000 Like Malcolm X. Yeah, if you get out, you're going against the pattern of the universe.
00:29:10.000 So it happened to my brother.
00:29:12.000 He wound up dying when he got out because he didn't learn.
00:29:14.000 Happened to Tupac.
00:29:15.000 But in my lifetime, the only person that really got it...
00:29:21.000 What's my guy out of Atlanta, the rapper that got the beautiful wife and got the baby?
00:29:26.000 Gucci Man?
00:29:27.000 Gucci Man.
00:29:27.000 Oh, yeah.
00:29:29.000 Gucci Man.
00:29:29.000 He went in fat as hell, drug addict, alcoholic, comes out fit as fuck.
00:29:34.000 And he's married to Kishikior.
00:29:36.000 Yeah.
00:29:37.000 Good example.
00:29:39.000 He got it.
00:29:39.000 Gucci Man got it.
00:29:42.000 He went to prison and became a better man to the point people say Gucci Mane was cloned.
00:29:49.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:29:50.000 But he went there and became a better fucking man.
00:29:52.000 That's such a good point.
00:29:53.000 Because I remember his tweets used to be fucking crazy, bro.
00:29:56.000 Before he went to jail, bro.
00:29:57.000 Yo, he was showing up at restaurants with a shirt on, getting kicked out.
00:30:00.000 He was always on drugs.
00:30:02.000 He was always drunk and high and shit.
00:30:03.000 And he was reckless, bro.
00:30:05.000 Like, it was a very dark time.
00:30:06.000 And I think jail saved him.
00:30:08.000 He would have probably got killed if he never went to prison, bro.
00:30:10.000 So that's what I'm trying to say.
00:30:12.000 You've got to understand the universe, and the universe will do certain things to you, and you really have to take advantage.
00:30:18.000 And I always use examples.
00:30:19.000 I always talk about Whitney Houston.
00:30:21.000 See, the universe will give you so much talent, and they'll warn you.
00:30:26.000 And say, hey, we're going to give you another shot.
00:30:29.000 And if you don't understand it, the universe will say, listen, I've done what I can with you.
00:30:35.000 It's time to bring you back home.
00:30:37.000 And I could give that talent to somebody else.
00:30:39.000 Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, Prince.
00:30:43.000 These are just my theories, but I get deep with the world because I love life so much and I'm connected and I understand quantum physics.
00:30:52.000 I understand the speed of light.
00:30:54.000 I understand the energy of people when you walk in the room, right?
00:30:59.000 These things truly, truly exist.
00:31:02.000 And I just want to give it to the universe while I'm breathing and let people know how you really can move a certain way and achieve life.
00:31:10.000 I have a question for you.
00:31:11.000 Well, more of a statement.
00:31:13.000 Keep it a bean, if you don't mind.
00:31:15.000 Did he do it?
00:31:16.000 Or did he not?
00:31:17.000 So here's the thing that I've been saying to people already.
00:31:20.000 There's been so many people...
00:31:23.000 Talking about Puffy touched my ass.
00:31:26.000 Puffy coming to the door naked.
00:31:28.000 But I believe that this shit does not become official until you see my man with the umbrella come forth.
00:31:37.000 The guy who always held the umbrella over...
00:31:40.000 Something Bentley.
00:31:41.000 Farnsworth Bentley.
00:31:42.000 Farnsworth Bentley.
00:31:43.000 Now if Farnsworth come out...
00:31:48.000 I don't care what nobody else said.
00:31:51.000 If Fonzie come out and he's on the interview with you guys but he got the umbrella and he's talking and he's telling you believe him because he knows everything that went down.
00:32:02.000 Do you believe Cassie?
00:32:04.000 Cassie, did you read the indictment?
00:32:07.000 The civil case, I did read it.
00:32:09.000 Yeah, it was deep.
00:32:10.000 Too many details?
00:32:11.000 Too many details.
00:32:13.000 The thing about Puff, and I think Puff was getting ready to understand energy, but it was too late.
00:32:18.000 Love.
00:32:19.000 See, because when he was starting to give everybody the publishing...
00:32:22.000 He was trying to do right.
00:32:24.000 Because I know he felt this coming.
00:32:26.000 I knew he knew something was coming.
00:32:28.000 And to you guys, the world, I'm going to tell you this very clearly.
00:32:33.000 When you mess up one time on this planet, you've got to do that much more good.
00:32:38.000 Yeah.
00:32:39.000 You gotta do that much more good to balance the energy on this planet.
00:32:45.000 Because if you keep doing bad, bad, bad, no matter what you do, you can't catch up to all the bad that you've given.
00:32:52.000 It's coming back full circle.
00:32:53.000 Yeah, so Puff's situation is when you hear all these people coming out with their information, It's so much.
00:33:02.000 And I'm quite sure we even got to the tip of it, right?
00:33:07.000 And when I look at him, Russell Simmons, these people who we was growing up, Bill Cosby, Weinstein, See, I came up with hustlers.
00:33:23.000 I came up with men like Eric Bond, Zip, Frankie B, my nigga.
00:33:28.000 I always talk about Haitian Jack.
00:33:29.000 When we went out, we was leaders, not bosses.
00:33:34.000 I always tell people all the time, when I hear people say they're a boss, that's just a title.
00:33:39.000 That means you're just a boss.
00:33:41.000 You've got to be a leader.
00:33:42.000 Do you lead the people?
00:33:44.000 So we lead the people.
00:33:46.000 So when we was growing up and having a little bit of money, we took care of women.
00:33:51.000 We made sure we put women on the right projective in life to achieve, because that's what men are for.
00:33:58.000 You're supposed to make a woman better.
00:34:00.000 If you can't make a woman better within We're good to go.
00:34:18.000 For the rest of a life.
00:34:20.000 And I meet these people.
00:34:21.000 So now, instead of me trying to have a good time with them, I gotta be the motivational speaker.
00:34:26.000 I gotta be a cap to save.
00:34:28.000 I gotta be a therapist, right?
00:34:30.000 To get this woman back on track.
00:34:33.000 Because the men I hear today, having had OGs like me, To give them game.
00:34:39.000 They're thinking every woman is horrible.
00:34:42.000 I'm not saying you treat every woman good, but you have enough wisdom on this planet to know which woman has the character of what you want.
00:34:52.000 You can't do that to everybody, right?
00:34:53.000 But if you know character, you're like, oh, I can rock with her.
00:34:57.000 She's sweet.
00:34:57.000 She's got a life together.
00:34:58.000 Let me do right by her.
00:35:00.000 And that's what we have to start putting out in the universe instead of this nonsense and this confusion to see that men was putting pills in a woman's drink.
00:35:10.000 I'm like, what, your vocabulary ain't cold?
00:35:13.000 There's a thing called sapiosexual, right?
00:35:15.000 That you seduce a woman by her mind because of conversation.
00:35:20.000 You don't have to put stuff in women's drinks to get them to do what you want to do.
00:35:25.000 Your conversation's so cold.
00:35:26.000 That is the Molly.
00:35:27.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:35:28.000 If your swag's so cold, that is the swag, right?
00:35:31.000 Yeah.
00:35:31.000 You know, I teach guys, and they call me simps on Facebook and Instagram, you know, because nobody's taught them the game.
00:35:38.000 I always say when you go out and you're at a club and you're talking to a young lady and you're taking up her time, you buy her a drink.
00:35:46.000 Excuse me, sister, what you drinking?
00:35:48.000 You buy a drink.
00:35:48.000 You ain't got to stay there with her.
00:35:49.000 You buy a drink and you're going about your business.
00:35:52.000 If you're walking down the street with a young lady, you walk on the outside of the curve.
00:35:57.000 So if cars are driving by, it shows that you're protecting the woman.
00:36:01.000 These young motherfuckers are saying, let that bitch get hit by a car.
00:36:05.000 I tell guys, when you get on the plane, you're taking a trip.
00:36:08.000 You're supposed to let the woman sit by the window.
00:36:11.000 You sit on the outside of a detector.
00:36:13.000 They call me a simp.
00:36:14.000 Talk about, yo, I paid for a ticket too.
00:36:17.000 I want to look out the window.
00:36:19.000 I think the reason why they would say that is because In your generation, women were actually women, right?
00:36:24.000 They were feminine, they were docile.
00:36:27.000 You would get that masculine energy to protect and provide and give that chivalry.
00:36:32.000 But I would say in today's day and age, with the way so many women are, how entitled they are, how masculine they are, etc., a lot of guys look at it like, she acts like a dude.
00:36:40.000 Why am I even going to...
00:36:41.000 That is so true, too.
00:36:43.000 Do something first.
00:36:43.000 So I see your perspective, but I also see the modern perspective, and I think it's because the gender lines are so blurred now that guys don't know that they need to be a man all the time, even if the chick is masculine.
00:36:53.000 But that's why I was saying to you, right?
00:36:55.000 I'm going to say something to you because you're my friend now.
00:36:57.000 I want you to listen to comprehend, not listen to reply.
00:37:01.000 Okay, okay.
00:37:02.000 That's why I said character.
00:37:03.000 Know who to do it for.
00:37:04.000 Of course, of course.
00:37:05.000 Right?
00:37:05.000 Because there are women like that, but you don't do that for that woman.
00:37:09.000 I agree.
00:37:09.000 But if you see an opening that you can give that person knowledge, you say, you know what?
00:37:15.000 May I make a suggestion?
00:37:17.000 And you try to get a sister to try to start being soft.
00:37:21.000 Stop using profanity all the time.
00:37:24.000 Start talking like a man.
00:37:25.000 I was talking about that on stage the other night.
00:37:27.000 Don't no man want to go to bed.
00:37:29.000 The girl is beautiful, right?
00:37:30.000 But you say, goodnight, baby.
00:37:32.000 And she go, goodnight, bro.
00:37:37.000 But the women don't want to hear it, right?
00:37:39.000 The women get mad.
00:37:39.000 Oh, you ain't going to tell me how to talk and all that.
00:37:42.000 No, baby, I just want you to be soft because we need you out here.
00:37:45.000 And that's what I want men to start telling our sisters and our women.
00:37:50.000 Chivalry is earned.
00:37:50.000 Yes, come on, baby.
00:37:51.000 We need you.
00:37:52.000 We need you to be soft.
00:37:53.000 I want to be a man for you.
00:37:55.000 But TK, I'm not going to lie, brother.
00:37:58.000 I like the window seat.
00:38:00.000 Hold on.
00:38:00.000 You have a segment that I watch, actually.
00:38:03.000 Men are the new women.
00:38:05.000 Can you explain that to the audience real quick?
00:38:07.000 Well, men want to be taken care of.
00:38:09.000 Yeah.
00:38:10.000 Men meet women now to be taken care of, to be stay home dads.
00:38:15.000 Yeah, that's terrible.
00:38:16.000 You got men, you got women at work, and you got the men walking the dogs.
00:38:21.000 It ain't even a big dog.
00:38:25.000 It's a little dog.
00:38:26.000 It's really walking.
00:38:29.000 Touching the dog's head, right?
00:38:31.000 And calling the woman that worked about, yeah, I ran your errands for you.
00:38:35.000 I dropped this off at FedEx.
00:38:36.000 What time you gonna be home?
00:38:39.000 I'm gonna pick this up for you later on.
00:38:42.000 Now, here's the thing.
00:38:43.000 Me being in my 60s, I can't change the world.
00:38:47.000 I see the world changing.
00:38:50.000 I don't know if this is the way it's supposed to be, guys.
00:38:53.000 I don't know.
00:38:53.000 I don't know.
00:38:54.000 I don't have all the answers, right?
00:38:56.000 But I've seen it change.
00:38:57.000 I've seen something happen that I cannot explain.
00:39:01.000 And it doesn't look good on so many levels.
00:39:04.000 It's bad.
00:39:05.000 It's bad.
00:39:06.000 Real bad.
00:39:06.000 I got a question.
00:39:07.000 It's bad.
00:39:08.000 Going back to the puffy thing, right?
00:39:10.000 Obviously, it's all over the news, etc.
00:39:14.000 The one thing that's really, and I want to get your take on this, that's really interesting to me is, like, no one has come out to his defense in the industry.
00:39:20.000 Like, nobody.
00:39:21.000 Like, I remember when Michael Jackson got accused.
00:39:22.000 People think you're supposed to come to defense, but that's not the way the world works.
00:39:25.000 No?
00:39:26.000 Nah.
00:39:26.000 But people came out when Michael Jackson got accused, even when R. Kelly got accused.
00:39:31.000 People came in and said, these girls are lying, blah, blah, blah.
00:39:34.000 Like Kobe, of course, yeah.
00:39:35.000 But no one said anything for Diddy, which is weird to me.
00:39:37.000 Some people are saying that Mike Puffy didn't do it.
00:39:39.000 But here's the thing about being a man.
00:39:41.000 Yeah, I've heard it.
00:39:42.000 I've seen a couple things.
00:39:43.000 Here's the thing about being a man.
00:39:44.000 When you catch a case, you're on your own.
00:39:47.000 Yeah.
00:39:47.000 This is law.
00:39:49.000 Yeah.
00:39:50.000 This is law.
00:39:52.000 We live in the world today.
00:39:54.000 Once it's out, you're guilty anyway.
00:39:56.000 Yeah, unfortunately.
00:39:57.000 Social media.
00:39:57.000 Yeah.
00:39:58.000 You're done.
00:39:59.000 News.
00:39:59.000 You're done.
00:40:01.000 So even if somebody came to your rescue...
00:40:05.000 It's not gonna help any.
00:40:06.000 A man, when he gets in trouble, he's a man.
00:40:09.000 I've learned this the hard way.
00:40:11.000 Because I did all my shit in the 90s before social media.
00:40:15.000 Thank God.
00:40:18.000 You gotta be a man.
00:40:20.000 And you deal with it.
00:40:22.000 You hand it like a man.
00:40:24.000 And you let the chips fall as they may.
00:40:26.000 And then once it's all over, you go through life and face your issues head on like a man.
00:40:33.000 And the things that you've done, you accept it, and you go about your business, and then you change.
00:40:38.000 So if Puffy beats this thing, move on with your life, stay focused as a man, raise your children, and we live in a world that after three weeks, a month, a year,
00:40:54.000 nobody will give.
00:40:55.000 Yeah, they forget.
00:40:56.000 Nobody cares.
00:40:56.000 Nobody cares.
00:40:57.000 Let me ask you this.
00:40:57.000 Have you ever been to any of the parties, or...?
00:40:59.000 I've never been to any of Puffy's parties.
00:41:02.000 I'm not a party guy, to be honest with you.
00:41:04.000 I'm a lounge guy.
00:41:06.000 I want to get nice and have a bad bitch breathing on me with a bottle of champagne in the cut.
00:41:12.000 If somebody tells me everybody goes there, I go the opposite direction.
00:41:17.000 You made another segment Is she a liability?
00:41:21.000 How do you find a bad chick?
00:41:22.000 Oh wait, nigga, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:41:24.000 I want to add one more question before you completely switch it.
00:41:28.000 Do you think it's true?
00:41:31.000 Do you think the allegations are true?
00:41:32.000 I think it's too many people saying something that is all the same thing.
00:41:38.000 Okay, the corroboration has you like, okay, what the hell's going on here?
00:41:41.000 Maybe one person could say something.
00:41:43.000 Okay.
00:41:44.000 You go, I'm a motherfucker just a hater.
00:41:46.000 Yeah.
00:41:46.000 Too many people.
00:41:48.000 Too many people come forward.
00:41:48.000 Okay.
00:41:50.000 Don't get me wrong.
00:41:50.000 I know some people lie.
00:41:52.000 Some people lie just to be clickbaiting and have their name out there, right?
00:41:56.000 Of course.
00:41:58.000 It's just too many things.
00:41:59.000 What I've also learned in life is I just want Puff to be okay.
00:42:04.000 And the reason why I say that...
00:42:07.000 In the 90s, I had courted a case.
00:42:09.000 As a matter of fact, I had kind of like Rob Puffy in 1998.
00:42:13.000 True story.
00:42:14.000 Wait, what?
00:42:15.000 Yeah, in 1998, it was a thing called tip the grand larceny.
00:42:18.000 Okay.
00:42:19.000 And we used this credit card to buy us some jewelry and shit.
00:42:24.000 No, true story.
00:42:25.000 Oh, shit.
00:42:26.000 Well, you knew him since, what, like, 95 or something?
00:42:28.000 You said you knew him before.
00:42:29.000 I knew Puff when he first got started.
00:42:30.000 I mean, Puff was cool.
00:42:31.000 You know, Puff was like tea to the motherfucking cake, but I never hung out with him at parties.
00:42:36.000 I just wasn't a partying kind of guy.
00:42:39.000 Gotcha.
00:42:39.000 Yeah, that's just me.
00:42:41.000 And I did some wrong stuff.
00:42:42.000 My cousin, Lawrence, Kate, I love him.
00:42:44.000 We're still tight to this day.
00:42:45.000 I had my whole family involved, and one thing led to another.
00:42:49.000 And...
00:42:51.000 You learn to live to be a great person.
00:42:56.000 And if you know my past, I wasn't bad.
00:43:00.000 I was just making mistakes as a youngster.
00:43:03.000 It took me a minute to grow up.
00:43:04.000 But like I said, I've lived long enough now to have...
00:43:08.000 Did you beat the case?
00:43:08.000 Yeah, I beat the case.
00:43:10.000 So you used Puffy's credit cards and bought some jewelry with it?
00:43:14.000 No, we didn't actually get the jewelry.
00:43:15.000 See, everybody got played.
00:43:17.000 So this is the universe again.
00:43:18.000 Okay.
00:43:19.000 I got the credit card information to buy some jewelry.
00:43:22.000 The jewelry store never ran the credit card.
00:43:25.000 They used it for publicity to promote their jewelry store.
00:43:29.000 Oh.
00:43:29.000 Yeah, it was crazy.
00:43:31.000 What the hell?
00:43:32.000 The detectives, it was opportunity for them because this one, Puffy, had the number one album in the country.
00:43:39.000 Right?
00:43:41.000 I'm trying to think, what year is this?
00:43:42.000 This is 1997, 1998.
00:43:46.000 Okay.
00:43:46.000 I forgot the name of the songs, but he was doing his thing.
00:43:49.000 This is after Big died, right?
00:43:53.000 This is after Big died.
00:43:54.000 Okay, it was the album where I'll be watching, I'll be missing you.
00:43:57.000 It was that album.
00:43:57.000 Whatever album was.
00:43:58.000 I forget the name of it, but continue.
00:44:00.000 Whatever album was.
00:44:01.000 99.
00:44:02.000 More Money, More Problems.
00:44:03.000 Yeah, it might be More Money, More Problems.
00:44:04.000 Whatever the situation was.
00:44:08.000 I beat that case when I took a plea deal because I had another felony in California.
00:44:16.000 And what they had in New York was a thing called predicate felon.
00:44:19.000 And predicate felon is no matter where you are in the world, you catch another case within a year and it's a felony where you get caught at that's mandatory four to six.
00:44:28.000 But I hired some attorneys out of Long Island named Tony Matteo and Frank Capitolo, two Italian attorneys out of Long Island, to help me get my plea deal taken off the table.
00:44:45.000 During that time, I'm in Rikers Island because I took my deal off the table.
00:44:49.000 The judge reprimanded me, sent me to Rikers Island.
00:44:54.000 Oh, God.
00:44:55.000 Worst jails ever.
00:44:56.000 Yeah, I can handle it.
00:44:57.000 People knew me up there, so it was cool.
00:45:00.000 While I'm up there, though, this is all universe now.
00:45:04.000 Watch where I'm going.
00:45:06.000 Puffy, Shine, and Jennifer Lopez get in a shooting at the club in New York City.
00:45:12.000 Wow.
00:45:13.000 So you were locked up when that happened?
00:45:14.000 I was locked up.
00:45:15.000 But watch this.
00:45:15.000 The same prosecutors come to Rikers Island.
00:45:20.000 To ask me, could I testify against Puff to say I saw him with the gun in the club?
00:45:28.000 Damn.
00:45:29.000 You weren't there?
00:45:30.000 I wasn't there.
00:45:31.000 What the fuck?
00:45:32.000 That's my point.
00:45:33.000 That's messed up.
00:45:34.000 So my attorney said to me, T, do you want to help out the, you know, they might let you out.
00:45:39.000 And I said, well, get me out of here.
00:45:41.000 We can talk about it.
00:45:42.000 You know, so they came off a couple days with the cars and shit and, you know, took me back down to the tombs.
00:45:48.000 The tombs is in Manhattan.
00:45:50.000 One city in Manhattan.
00:45:52.000 Okay, so it's another jail that's an offshoot of Rikers, where they transport you for court and shit.
00:45:56.000 Yeah, so they took me back downtown.
00:45:58.000 Gotcha.
00:45:59.000 So three days, we was going to the club, and they was, you gotta read between the lines, and they was pretty much saying, um...
00:46:06.000 You were standing here.
00:46:08.000 And I'm like, I was standing here, but they want you.
00:46:10.000 They can't tell you.
00:46:11.000 You have to read between the lines.
00:46:14.000 But during that time, I was eating pizza and sandwiches.
00:46:19.000 I was playing them the whole time.
00:46:20.000 Yeah.
00:46:21.000 I can't remember.
00:46:22.000 I'm hungry.
00:46:23.000 I need to eat.
00:46:24.000 I'm doing all that.
00:46:26.000 So they take me back to Rikers.
00:46:28.000 And I think a week later or something, they came to ask me, was I going to testify against Puff?
00:46:35.000 And I was like, nah, I'm good.
00:46:37.000 Yeah, I'm good.
00:46:38.000 Because I'm not that kind of dude, you know what I'm saying?
00:46:41.000 Did he testify against you to get you jammed up?
00:46:43.000 He was coming to testify against me.
00:46:44.000 He was coming.
00:46:45.000 For that credit card thing.
00:46:46.000 He sure was.
00:46:48.000 I swear to God, he was coming.
00:46:51.000 My attorneys told me.
00:46:52.000 If you had went to trial, he would have taken a stand against you.
00:46:54.000 He was going to take the stand and go against me.
00:46:57.000 Yes, they told me that.
00:46:59.000 They said Puff is coming to testify against you.
00:47:02.000 He sure was.
00:47:04.000 Did he feel betrayed or something?
00:47:06.000 Because y'all were cool, right?
00:47:07.000 We was cool.
00:47:08.000 And here's the thing about a man.
00:47:12.000 I was wrong.
00:47:14.000 At the end of the day, I was wrong.
00:47:17.000 I'm not one of those guys who lie and say, oh, he's a bitch nigga and he shouldn't have did that to me.
00:47:26.000 Nah, I was wrong, dog.
00:47:28.000 And whatever was going to happen to me...
00:47:31.000 It should have happened.
00:47:32.000 But I fought for my life and I fought to want to become a great man.
00:47:37.000 And so I fought because I had made a mistake.
00:47:40.000 A lot of people make mistakes and they can't get out of their situation.
00:47:43.000 It just so happened I had money.
00:47:45.000 Even though I was crazy, I still was rich.
00:47:47.000 So I was still doing things and I was able to get Good lawyers.
00:47:50.000 Good lawyers.
00:47:51.000 Because that's what it comes down to.
00:47:53.000 You ain't got good lawyers, dog.
00:47:54.000 You're done.
00:47:55.000 You're done.
00:47:57.000 So I was able to pay for my attorneys.
00:47:59.000 I did right.
00:48:00.000 How long did you end up serving for that charge?
00:48:03.000 I never went to jail.
00:48:04.000 I wound up getting five years probation.
00:48:06.000 Okay, so you were only in Rikers pending your case.
00:48:09.000 Exactly.
00:48:10.000 So how long were you?
00:48:11.000 I was in there.
00:48:11.000 She's put me in there twice.
00:48:12.000 So 60 days, 30 days one time, 30 days the other.
00:48:16.000 Damn!
00:48:17.000 Okay.
00:48:17.000 But let me explain to you how beautiful my life is.
00:48:19.000 When she let me out two days later, I was on tour with the Rough Riders and the Cash Money Millionaires doing a 40-city tour.
00:48:26.000 So you post a bond.
00:48:27.000 Got it.
00:48:28.000 So you...
00:48:28.000 I was already on bond.
00:48:29.000 She just reprimanded me because I took my deal off the table, my plea deal, and brought new attorneys in, and that pissed her off.
00:48:37.000 She got mad at me that I didn't take the deal.
00:48:40.000 Okay, just so I understand.
00:48:41.000 She changed my life, too, believe it or not.
00:48:43.000 You get arrested for the credit card fraud stuff.
00:48:46.000 You get arrested.
00:48:47.000 You spend 30 days in jail.
00:48:49.000 You post bond.
00:48:50.000 You get out.
00:48:50.000 No, I was already on bond.
00:48:51.000 I was already arrested.
00:48:52.000 I had already turned myself in.
00:48:53.000 Okay.
00:48:54.000 So when we are fighting this case, after...
00:48:57.000 Maybe six, seven months, I took a deal.
00:49:00.000 Okay.
00:49:02.000 Of the advice of another attorney.
00:49:04.000 Yeah, you took the plea deal.
00:49:05.000 Yeah, I fired that attorney and brought in two new attorneys.
00:49:08.000 Okay.
00:49:09.000 When I did that, she was pissed.
00:49:11.000 She got mad because now they got to push court back and shit.
00:49:14.000 Exactly.
00:49:14.000 So she probably held you in contempt of court.
00:49:15.000 Send this motherfucker to reprimand on the Rikers.
00:49:18.000 So you go to Rikers for 60 days for that?
00:49:19.000 30 days the first time.
00:49:20.000 Okay, and then you got reprimanded again to go to other 30 days?
00:49:22.000 Because my attorney came late, so she locked me the fuck up.
00:49:26.000 Wow!
00:49:26.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
00:49:28.000 Damn!
00:49:29.000 All this happened in the 90s.
00:49:30.000 But I tell these stories not to be a gangster.
00:49:34.000 I tell these stories for men.
00:49:38.000 Can make better choices with their life and women because at the end of the day, I promise you, it's not worth it.
00:49:45.000 I hate that I went through all this shit because it embarrassed my mother.
00:49:49.000 So when you talk about Puff, It's not him who I think about.
00:49:55.000 It's the mother.
00:49:56.000 See, when you got a mom that loves you, and they see you grow to become something, and they talk to their people when they go get their manicure and pedicure, when they go to church.
00:50:06.000 It's my son.
00:50:07.000 My son.
00:50:08.000 They're so proud of you.
00:50:10.000 And then this shit happens.
00:50:12.000 It's like it hurts your mother.
00:50:15.000 So bad that you can't explain.
00:50:17.000 My mom, when this happened, didn't go to church for six months.
00:50:20.000 It's shameful.
00:50:21.000 Yeah, didn't go get it.
00:50:22.000 Yeah, because they're going to ask her about how's TK doing, and then what's she going to say?
00:50:26.000 He's on Rikers Island?
00:50:27.000 And then depending on how strong your mother is, and all mothers, no matter, they strong, but they still...
00:50:31.000 My stuff is small compared to sexual assault.
00:50:35.000 My stuff is small compared to rape and...
00:50:39.000 Putting mollies and lacing women's drinks with stuff to seduce them and take advantage of them.
00:50:46.000 So just like I said, to any young man that's out there doing any crime, especially with sexual assault, Do the right thing.
00:50:55.000 It is not worth it because most of y'all don't have money.
00:50:59.000 Think about football players who get caught up in situations.
00:51:02.000 The girls say that I got raped and he don't have the proper attorney or whatever.
00:51:07.000 And your whole career as a football star or basketball star or swimmer gets thrown away because of one night that you made a bad choice.
00:51:17.000 Or girls can lie on you too.
00:51:18.000 A lot of me too bullshit going on.
00:51:20.000 That's so true.
00:51:20.000 They can lie on you.
00:51:26.000 When I see young men in sports in their 20s, I always say stay single.
00:51:32.000 Stay single, date as much as you can, but don't put your life in jeopardy that someone can take.
00:51:41.000 Your life away.
00:51:43.000 Yeah.
00:51:44.000 Question for you, because you mentioned it earlier, and I want to make sure you get to finish your thought.
00:51:48.000 You mentioned that you were with Tupac, obviously, the day he passed away, and also Big.
00:51:52.000 What was that like when Big passed?
00:51:53.000 Because he passed away, like what, like a few months later?
00:51:55.000 Yeah, like a year later.
00:51:56.000 It hurt, man, because my- You were in California?
00:51:59.000 I was in California.
00:52:01.000 This was what happened that night.
00:52:02.000 Okay.
00:52:03.000 We hung out, and then we met at the party.
00:52:06.000 Okay.
00:52:07.000 Yeah, so Biggie, Leote, even Puff.
00:52:09.000 I had a show that night at the Club called Comedy Act Theater on 43rd and Crenshaw.
00:52:14.000 Okay.
00:52:15.000 I didn't want to go.
00:52:16.000 So I remember Biggie saying, TK, yo, go do your show.
00:52:19.000 We'll see you when you get back.
00:52:20.000 But I saw all the gang members in L.A. in the area.
00:52:24.000 They was all dressed up in suits.
00:52:25.000 And I know everybody.
00:52:26.000 You know, I said, oh, there's going to be some problems here.
00:52:29.000 So I met these girls, and I took them with me.
00:52:31.000 We went to the comedy show on Crenshaw.
00:52:34.000 Okay.
00:52:35.000 So y'all were hanging out earlier in the day.
00:52:37.000 Yeah, met at the party.
00:52:39.000 Okay, and then you were hanging out at a party, and then you said, yo, I gotta do this comedy show.
00:52:42.000 He's like, just go and meet me back here.
00:52:44.000 I'll come back and meet him back.
00:52:45.000 Okay.
00:52:46.000 On the way driving back, coming down Wilshire Boulevard, you see all the cop cars.
00:52:50.000 So when I pulled in, everybody said, yo, TK Biggie got shot.
00:52:53.000 I ain't believe him.
00:52:55.000 Motherfuckers just lying.
00:52:56.000 So I went to this other club to open up for Outkast.
00:53:03.000 Oh, shit.
00:53:04.000 Outkast were in LA at the time?
00:53:06.000 Yeah, it was the award show.
00:53:08.000 I forgot where the award show, but they was there.
00:53:11.000 They had a party, too, on Sunset Boulevard.
00:53:13.000 Outkast.
00:53:13.000 Was it Vibe or The Source?
00:53:15.000 It was one of those, it was a big show.
00:53:17.000 One of those old magazines.
00:53:17.000 It was a big show.
00:53:18.000 Soul Train?
00:53:19.000 Yeah, whatever it was, everybody was in town.
00:53:22.000 And I opened up for everybody because I'm my own manager.
00:53:25.000 I was one of the aggressive guys that you're going to see me.
00:53:29.000 And everybody loved TK. And I hung out in Atlanta too, so Outkast and us, they all knew me.
00:53:35.000 So I went to go perform with Outkast and wound up introducing her.
00:53:38.000 And I remember looking out the window on Sunset Boulevard.
00:53:41.000 And I said, something told me to drive by Cedar Sinai Hospital.
00:53:46.000 Because I was calling Leote, but she wasn't picking the phone.
00:53:49.000 When I got there...
00:53:50.000 At that point, did it start to set?
00:53:52.000 Because at first you're like, this is a fucking line.
00:53:54.000 Again, energy.
00:53:56.000 I'm on Sunset looking out the window at the club.
00:53:59.000 I was just chilling.
00:54:00.000 And something said, something ain't right.
00:54:04.000 And then I went and got, somebody said slow training wars.
00:54:07.000 So I went and got in my car, drove there.
00:54:13.000 And I know what they said, Bickey had died.
00:54:16.000 And I remember standing outside with everybody, couldn't believe it.
00:54:19.000 And I was like, you sure?
00:54:20.000 You sure?
00:54:21.000 But he was dead before he got there.
00:54:23.000 Oh, wow.
00:54:24.000 Okay.
00:54:24.000 He didn't die in the hospital.
00:54:25.000 Because Park was alive for like a week when he got shot.
00:54:27.000 Yeah.
00:54:27.000 Bickey died before he got there.
00:54:29.000 And I went home.
00:54:31.000 I remember sitting in my hotel room.
00:54:32.000 I called my mother because my brother had just died a year ago in January.
00:54:37.000 Who was there at the hospital?
00:54:39.000 Like it was you?
00:54:39.000 Everybody.
00:54:40.000 Everybody from Bad Boy was there.
00:54:41.000 Yeah, everybody was there.
00:54:43.000 And he died March 9th, 1997.
00:54:49.000 Because my brother, that was my oldest brother's birthday.
00:54:52.000 And he had passed away back in 95.
00:54:54.000 So that's how I come to know that day.
00:54:56.000 So the rest is history.
00:54:58.000 Yeah, it's interesting.
00:55:00.000 That's crazy that you were at the same location both times.
00:55:03.000 Yeah, I was just a guy who just got around.
00:55:05.000 I was everywhere.
00:55:05.000 I rocked with Teddy Riley and Guy.
00:55:08.000 When Nelson Mandela got out of prison, I hosted this thing for him at the Coliseum.
00:55:14.000 Back in the day, I raised money for Maxine Waters.
00:55:17.000 A lot of people don't know I do city council stuff.
00:55:19.000 I used to raise money for Maxine Waters out in Los Angeles, California.
00:55:24.000 Me and...
00:55:27.000 Johnny Cochran and I was great, great friends.
00:55:30.000 Oh, wow.
00:55:30.000 Yeah, I seen Johnny Cochran rise.
00:55:32.000 If it doesn't fit, you must have quit!
00:55:33.000 Yeah, I seen him rise.
00:55:35.000 He always said to me, he said, TK, he said, no matter what happens in life, nobody can make it unless you help them.
00:55:42.000 I always remember that.
00:55:43.000 What was his thoughts on OJ? I mean, that OJ case made his career.
00:55:47.000 Yeah, the thing I didn't like about...
00:55:50.000 This is my opinion, and I told you this to Johnny Cochran, because he was everywhere.
00:55:53.000 He was on the award shows, he was doing that, and I was mad because he was using my money to go hang out.
00:55:59.000 And I believe when you're fighting the case, motherfucker, I won't see you on no show.
00:56:03.000 Be up there and fight his mind.
00:56:04.000 Oh, he was defending you.
00:56:05.000 You retained him as a lawyer?
00:56:07.000 No, no, not me.
00:56:07.000 I'm watching, I'm thinking of him as if I was OJ. Okay, okay.
00:56:10.000 He was at all the awards.
00:56:11.000 He was everywhere.
00:56:12.000 I'm like, fuck that.
00:56:14.000 Be in the house to get me the fuck out of here.
00:56:16.000 That's how I felt with that.
00:56:19.000 Obviously, he had that power team, man.
00:56:21.000 Like, bro, like that.
00:56:22.000 What they pulled off was, to this day, I don't think there's ever been a trial that's been more publicized than the O.J. Simpson trial.
00:56:30.000 And the reason why it was so fucking crazy is because it was in the 90s, before social media, before the explosion of smartphones.
00:56:36.000 That case was everywhere.
00:56:38.000 You couldn't escape it.
00:56:38.000 I think it took almost a year for them to go through the trial.
00:56:41.000 They did their thing.
00:56:42.000 Incredible.
00:56:43.000 Let me ask you this then.
00:56:44.000 Because I covered this case very extensively.
00:56:47.000 Do you think you did it?
00:56:50.000 Keep it a bean.
00:56:51.000 That's a good question.
00:56:52.000 Do I think he did it?
00:56:58.000 Nah.
00:56:59.000 You don't think so?
00:56:59.000 Nah, he didn't do it.
00:57:01.000 I think he did it, but he didn't do it alone.
00:57:03.000 I think his son was with him.
00:57:05.000 Nah, he didn't do it.
00:57:06.000 I don't think his son was with him.
00:57:07.000 You ever seen his son?
00:57:08.000 His son's crazy, bro.
00:57:10.000 Check out.
00:57:10.000 He's good with a knife, too, and he's very violent.
00:57:12.000 Remember I told you character?
00:57:13.000 Yeah.
00:57:14.000 His son ain't built like that.
00:57:17.000 No, because he had a couple.
00:57:19.000 One of the sons hated Nicole.
00:57:21.000 I don't think he was his birth mom.
00:57:22.000 It was another woman.
00:57:24.000 One of the sons absolutely hated Nicole, and he had issues.
00:57:27.000 It's an interesting case to really find out, but we really don't know.
00:57:31.000 I always say, just like when they say, is Puffy gay?
00:57:34.000 Anybody ask anybody gay?
00:57:36.000 And here's my philosophy on life.
00:57:38.000 If you say, yo, TK, do you think Puffy's gay?
00:57:40.000 I'm going to always tell you I don't know, because I wasn't in the room.
00:57:44.000 That's safe.
00:57:45.000 I get it.
00:57:46.000 So if someone tells you so-and-so is gay, nigga, they was in the room.
00:57:51.000 I like it.
00:57:52.000 They was in the room.
00:57:54.000 The only reason, and then we could...
00:57:56.000 The only reason, because I've looked at theories and all the other stuff, in Nicole Simpson's hands, right, she had African-American hair fibers on her nails.
00:58:08.000 However, it wasn't OJ's.
00:58:09.000 It was an unidentified...
00:58:11.000 Uh, African-American male.
00:58:13.000 But my thing is, is that, um, and the way that, if you look at the carnage, if you look at the crime scene photos and everything, there's no way one man would have been able to take her on and the other guy that was martial arts trained.
00:58:23.000 And he was older at this point.
00:58:24.000 This is way beyond.
00:58:25.000 I totally agree.
00:58:26.000 I think it was true.
00:58:27.000 You can't get two people like that.
00:58:28.000 The way they did it.
00:58:29.000 Yeah.
00:58:29.000 And with the speed they did it, et cetera.
00:58:31.000 And then the fact that she had DNA from another individual in her hands that wasn't OJ's.
00:58:36.000 Right.
00:58:36.000 It means at least it was a two-man job.
00:58:38.000 And I think also, uh, The other reason was the veracity at which they almost decapitated her.
00:58:45.000 That requires a lot of strength.
00:58:46.000 Yes, it does.
00:58:47.000 And I don't think OJ would have been able to do it, but his son was huge.
00:58:49.000 He could have done it, and he didn't like her.
00:58:53.000 Oh, and then one more thing.
00:58:55.000 Back in 2006, 2007, he did an interview to promote his book, If I Did It.
00:58:59.000 Right.
00:59:00.000 And in the book, he says, in a hypothetical, and he refers to another individual that was with him.
00:59:07.000 I forget the name that he used.
00:59:10.000 I was there with this What I think is that it wasn't...
00:59:20.000 From the evidence looking at it, I think it was a two-man job.
00:59:22.000 I think he was there at the scene.
00:59:23.000 Yeah, when you put pieces together, hear what you're saying.
00:59:26.000 In the Dale situation, her being the way she was cut.
00:59:29.000 Yeah, it was definitely a two-man job.
00:59:31.000 I think it was a two-man job.
00:59:33.000 And that's life sometimes, right?
00:59:34.000 Sometimes, you know, some people get away with big crimes and some people don't.
00:59:38.000 A lot of people don't talk about my man from Columbo.
00:59:41.000 What's the guy from Columbo?
00:59:43.000 What's his name?
00:59:45.000 Oh!
00:59:47.000 Michael Francis?
00:59:48.000 No.
00:59:48.000 Peter something.
00:59:49.000 Oh, okay.
00:59:50.000 I thought you were talking about the mob guy.
00:59:51.000 No.
00:59:52.000 Columbo.
00:59:52.000 The Columbo.
00:59:53.000 The TV show Columbo.
00:59:54.000 Oh, I thought it meant the Columbo crime family.
00:59:55.000 No, no.
00:59:56.000 Okay.
00:59:57.000 Peter something.
00:59:58.000 Peter Falk?
01:00:00.000 Is it Peter Falk?
01:00:01.000 Look that up.
01:00:01.000 Someone in the chat is going to put it.
01:00:02.000 Yeah.
01:00:03.000 I think it's Peter Falk.
01:00:03.000 F-A-L-K? Yeah.
01:00:04.000 Now, watch what Peter Falk did.
01:00:05.000 Peter Falk fed his woman.
01:00:07.000 Shot her.
01:00:08.000 And went into the restaurant, right?
01:00:11.000 He caught a case, and when he beat it, you never heard from him again.
01:00:17.000 My point that I'm making, what made OJ's situation horrible, OJ stayed in the spotlight.
01:00:24.000 He didn't want to disappear.
01:00:26.000 You know, you'd be a big child like that.
01:00:29.000 You're supposed to disappear.
01:00:31.000 To this day, he parties in Vegas still.
01:00:33.000 He'd be around a bunch of bloodies.
01:00:35.000 White girls!
01:00:36.000 Michael Sartain's in Vegas.
01:00:37.000 He said, I see him every week, and a bunch of white girls always go up to him and say, can I get a picture?
01:00:41.000 Yep, I see him all the time in Vegas.
01:00:44.000 I see him all the time in Vegas.
01:00:45.000 But my point that I'm making, guys, it goes back again to show you how character...
01:00:52.000 People don't respect character.
01:00:54.000 Your generation will take a picture with anyone.
01:00:58.000 Your generation will know that someone killed someone and still want to buy them a dinner.
01:01:04.000 Y'all call that keeping it real or heat 100.
01:01:06.000 So I had a question for you.
01:01:08.000 As an out of wisdom, and you've been through a lot, how do you find, or I would say look for in a woman, a wife to be?
01:01:17.000 Well, I'm not getting married, so I don't believe in marriage.
01:01:20.000 Or main girl.
01:01:20.000 Agreed.
01:01:22.000 Main girl situation.
01:01:24.000 My thing about life is I'm so happy that I don't want no one to destroy my peace of mind.
01:01:33.000 See, when you go through, when you guys are going to have girlfriends, and some of your situations are going to work out.
01:01:40.000 And the thing that you're going to understand in life is you'll start saying, I just want peace of mind.
01:01:47.000 And once you get it, you never want to let it go.
01:01:53.000 Fair enough.
01:01:54.000 For no one.
01:01:56.000 You know, people will tell you in a minute, oh, you're going to die alone, but you're going to die alone anyway.
01:02:06.000 That's true.
01:02:07.000 Unless you commit suicide, you take out everybody in the car and you're just going to drive off the road.
01:02:12.000 On some Stan M&M shit.
01:02:13.000 But that's why I would say take care of your health, eat good, have everything in order, your insurance policies, your trust, all that kind of stuff.
01:02:24.000 But the main thing is, if God didn't make it, don't take it.
01:02:27.000 Meaning, make sure you eat good and don't become a pre-diabetic by eating all these different sandwich meats and all these different types of stuff to give you high blood pressure.
01:02:36.000 Because you've got to think about the long term of life.
01:02:40.000 Of course.
01:02:40.000 Most people just think in short term.
01:02:42.000 They don't think about, I'm going to live to be 50, 60, 70 years old.
01:02:45.000 And I go through the airport almost every day and see people half my age cripple and walking in pain.
01:02:52.000 TK, you've helped many people in their career from the seed, from the very beginning.
01:02:56.000 Mm-hmm.
01:02:56.000 Cat Williams now, right?
01:02:58.000 Yes.
01:02:58.000 He went on a very good podcast.
01:03:01.000 Yes.
01:03:01.000 With Shea.
01:03:02.000 Oh, yeah.
01:03:02.000 Shea Shea.
01:03:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:03:04.000 Went viral.
01:03:04.000 Right.
01:03:04.000 He was exposing the industry in a way that was very, I would say, intimate.
01:03:09.000 Yes.
01:03:10.000 Cat Williams.
01:03:11.000 Tell us your opinion about Cat Williams.
01:03:12.000 I think Cat Williams is fucking phenomenal, right?
01:03:16.000 Are you guys friends?
01:03:18.000 We're associates.
01:03:19.000 We're not friends.
01:03:19.000 I'm not friends with really nobody.
01:03:21.000 I'm associates.
01:03:22.000 That friendship is very serious work.
01:03:24.000 Of course.
01:03:26.000 Cat Williams is an amazing stand-up comic.
01:03:29.000 I saw him come up Unique style, had the perfect voice, right?
01:03:34.000 The perfect delivery from Fridays to what he's doing now.
01:03:41.000 And what can you say about him?
01:03:43.000 You know, he has his issues.
01:03:44.000 You know, he got arrested a lot of times.
01:03:46.000 You know, he had drug problems.
01:03:48.000 But again...
01:03:49.000 He's got his life together, and he's moving in the right direction, and that's all you want for a man.
01:03:55.000 You can make your mistakes, and you get it together, and you move on.
01:03:59.000 He embarrassed some friends of mine, but again, my friends are men.
01:04:03.000 In that particular interview, right?
01:04:05.000 Yeah, and my friends are men.
01:04:07.000 Well, my associates.
01:04:09.000 I said friends are powerful, but I'm calling them my associates.
01:04:11.000 Who do you think he did the worst?
01:04:13.000 I think he did all the worst.
01:04:15.000 Everybody got it.
01:04:17.000 But if you're a hustler, you found the way to win.
01:04:20.000 See, when all this stuff happens, that's how I get my interviews, my other interviews.
01:04:24.000 So now I'm getting extra money because people want to know what TK thinks about it.
01:04:30.000 So he put a few thousand in my pocket for it because of what he did because everybody reached out to TK. TK, what you think?
01:04:39.000 So, shout out to Cad.
01:04:40.000 I truly wish him the best.
01:04:42.000 And, you know, that's his truth.
01:04:44.000 If he feels that those things happen, I wasn't there.
01:04:49.000 I don't know what's going on.
01:04:51.000 I just live my life and I just do my thing and try to be a great man and want to see my grandchildren and my daughters and my sons.
01:04:59.000 I got a question.
01:05:01.000 And you mentioned this earlier, so I'm just coming back to it.
01:05:02.000 I didn't want to interrupt you earlier.
01:05:04.000 You mentioned that you got your start with Eazy-E. Can you take us through how you met him and how that relationship?
01:05:09.000 Yeah, that's a good question, because I love everything about Compton.
01:05:12.000 Everything about Compton.
01:05:14.000 And believe it or not, my whole life started in entertainment because I met Kenan and Ivy Wayans.
01:05:21.000 From King of Rainas, I met Charlie Murphy and Eddie Murphy.
01:05:24.000 From hanging with Eddie Murphy and Charlie Murphy, I met New Edition.
01:05:28.000 So I started touring with New Edition when they were kids.
01:05:32.000 When Bobby Brown left New Edition...
01:05:34.000 This is what year now, just so the audience kind of understands.
01:05:36.000 This is in the 80s.
01:05:36.000 This is the 80s now.
01:05:37.000 Yeah, this is like 83, 84.
01:05:38.000 No, no, no, it's later than that.
01:05:40.000 It's like 86, 87.
01:05:42.000 Okay.
01:05:43.000 Yeah.
01:05:44.000 And then I meet...
01:05:45.000 Bobby Brown leaves New Edition...
01:05:48.000 A man named Al Heyman who now promotes Floyd Mayweather.
01:05:52.000 Boxing.
01:05:53.000 But back in the 80s, he was a concert promoter.
01:05:55.000 Oh, wow.
01:05:56.000 Me and him are close associates.
01:05:57.000 He says, TK, I want you to open up for I'll Be Sure, Tina Marie, Keith Sweat.
01:06:02.000 It was a big concert in LA. Great concert.
01:06:05.000 And I'm standing next to Bobby Brown and the DJ puts in the cassette.
01:06:09.000 For all you Gen Zers out there that don't know what a cassette is, it's a tape like this back in the day.
01:06:14.000 And I saw these kids lose their mind and I wanted to know who that was because I didn't know.
01:06:18.000 And Bobby Brown pointed them out to me.
01:06:21.000 And I walked up to this brother and I told him I was T to the motherfucking K. And he said, yo, I'm easy motherfucking E. And I told him who I was.
01:06:30.000 He said, yo, I like what you're doing.
01:06:32.000 This is what 88, 89 now?
01:06:32.000 This is 88.
01:06:33.000 Okay.
01:06:34.000 Did Straight Outta Compton drop yet?
01:06:36.000 88.
01:06:37.000 It did drop.
01:06:38.000 It dropped the same year.
01:06:39.000 That's the song that they play.
01:06:40.000 They play We Want Easy at the song in the stadium.
01:06:44.000 I'm thinking of a bad joke.
01:06:45.000 Yeah.
01:06:46.000 I don't know if I... I shouldn't say it, right?
01:06:47.000 Yeah, go ahead.
01:06:50.000 No?
01:06:51.000 He said don't say it.
01:06:52.000 Okay, okay.
01:06:53.000 I was going to say...
01:06:54.000 Eight to the eights?
01:06:58.000 Oh, yeah, that's okay.
01:06:59.000 It's a bad joke, though.
01:07:01.000 You know, yeah.
01:07:02.000 And you just say it right.
01:07:04.000 I don't want to say it because he was like a motherfucker.
01:07:07.000 And then the rest is history.
01:07:09.000 And Ice Q, Dr.
01:07:11.000 Dre, MC Ren.
01:07:12.000 Was the album out at that point?
01:07:13.000 Yeah.
01:07:13.000 It was out.
01:07:14.000 Okay, so he was hot.
01:07:15.000 He was hot.
01:07:16.000 Like, you met him when he was, like, literally...
01:07:18.000 And he was the nicest man that you could ever meet, dog.
01:07:24.000 Really?
01:07:24.000 That motherfucking Eazy-E, he was the truth.
01:07:27.000 And we had a bond.
01:07:28.000 And the great thing about it, if you had an idea, he rocked with you.
01:07:32.000 And what Eazy-E did was...
01:07:37.000 I was gonna start Ruthless Comedy with Eazy.
01:07:40.000 Okay.
01:07:41.000 And it was Jerry Heller, Eazy-E had signed off on it, but Eazy-E wound up passing away.
01:07:46.000 Question for you.
01:07:47.000 You mentioned earlier that you're really cool with Suge.
01:07:49.000 Yes.
01:07:49.000 But obviously Eazy-E and him had serious problems.
01:07:53.000 Yeah, I was friends with everybody.
01:07:54.000 Okay.
01:07:54.000 Yeah, it wasn't like I was one-sided with anybody.
01:07:58.000 I rocked with everybody.
01:07:59.000 So they didn't look at you crazy?
01:08:00.000 Like, Suge didn't have an issue with you being cool with you?
01:08:02.000 No, I was my own man.
01:08:03.000 Everybody knew I was my own man.
01:08:04.000 I was my own man.
01:08:05.000 Then I had a problem with it.
01:08:06.000 Yeah.
01:08:06.000 Because, you know, one thing I noticed when I was in L.A., and it's one of the big reasons why I don't like going there, is that gang culture is so prevalent there.
01:08:12.000 Yes, it is.
01:08:16.000 If you're a nigga and you're in LA and you don't align yourself with one side for protection to some degree, you're going to be getting robbed.
01:08:23.000 It's worse now.
01:08:24.000 I don't know what it was like in the 90s.
01:08:25.000 Please correct me if I'm wrong here.
01:08:26.000 But if you don't have somebody that vouches for you so you don't get robbed all over the place, it's crazy.
01:08:34.000 LA is run by gang culture.
01:08:35.000 Yeah, the thing about L.A. is it's a unique place.
01:08:42.000 It's very unique.
01:08:45.000 They have their own way of living, and either you respect it or you stay out of it.
01:08:50.000 That's just bottom line, because you ain't going down there changing it.
01:08:57.000 So, and back then, just so the audience knows, like, guys, like, HIV and AIDS was like a generally new thing.
01:09:02.000 I remember when Magic Johnson announced it, like, in the early 90s that he had it, everyone was like, whoa!
01:09:06.000 Yes, yes.
01:09:06.000 Because, like, no one knew what it was, and they were worried, like, can I catch it through sweat?
01:09:10.000 I think that's a big reason why he felt pressured to retire.
01:09:12.000 Right, right.
01:09:14.000 What was that like?
01:09:15.000 Like, obviously, you meet this guy, he's friends with you, you guys are cool.
01:09:19.000 I never thought he died of AIDS. I don't know what I thought he died of, but I don't know, I don't think he died of AIDS. Was he set up?
01:09:25.000 I don't know.
01:09:26.000 I wasn't there.
01:09:28.000 People come on these shows and they give these answers and they don't know.
01:09:32.000 And I can't give an answer to something that I know.
01:09:34.000 I only stick with the facts.
01:09:36.000 And the facts is I don't know what he died of.
01:09:38.000 I hate that he died because a lot of people's lives changed because that man died.
01:09:43.000 Because he was really about taking care of his people and helping people out.
01:09:48.000 So it could have been a lie then.
01:09:51.000 I think anything could have been alive.
01:09:53.000 You don't know the facts, right?
01:09:54.000 You know, I didn't appreciate Suge saying what he said when he said he stuck a needle in him and Jimmy Kimmel just laughed about it.
01:10:01.000 I just think that there's some people, there's some things you just don't say or allow people to get away with.
01:10:05.000 What was the last time you saw him alive and what did y'all talk about?
01:10:09.000 I don't remember.
01:10:09.000 It was too long ago.
01:10:10.000 Okay.
01:10:11.000 Yeah, too long ago.
01:10:12.000 But he was a good dude.
01:10:13.000 He was a good dude.
01:10:14.000 I like his songs.
01:10:16.000 Yeah, I mean, he's a legend.
01:10:18.000 So obviously, I'm assuming since you knew Eazy, you knew Dre and everything else like that back when they were cool.
01:10:24.000 Yeah, Dre's my guy.
01:10:24.000 Okay.
01:10:26.000 What's that like, bro?
01:10:27.000 Like, I mean...
01:10:28.000 They just know the people.
01:10:29.000 People, you know...
01:10:31.000 I mean, I seen them when they was driving Suzuki Jeeps in a 190 Benz.
01:10:36.000 The Sidekicks was out.
01:10:39.000 So to see Dr.
01:10:40.000 Dre's growth, man, is phenomenal.
01:10:43.000 Like, it really is.
01:10:46.000 Again, he had his issues too, his private issues, right?
01:10:50.000 Like, everybody had their problems.
01:10:52.000 You have to grow from them and become a great man.
01:10:55.000 He looked like he's at peace, and he's become a great man, and those things are good.
01:10:59.000 His wife, though, man, goddamn.
01:11:01.000 Like, she got a fucking bag off of that, man.
01:11:03.000 A lot of women get bags off these situations.
01:11:06.000 Is that why you don't want to get married?
01:11:08.000 No, no, no.
01:11:08.000 I'm 67 years old.
01:11:09.000 It doesn't make sense when we get married.
01:11:10.000 You know?
01:11:12.000 That's for you young kids.
01:11:14.000 That's smart, though.
01:11:14.000 That's smart.
01:11:15.000 Yeah, those are young kids.
01:11:16.000 I'm OG, you know?
01:11:17.000 I bring women over to my apartment in assistant living.
01:11:21.000 LAUGHTER And have them sign in at the front desk.
01:11:24.000 We'd go out in the morning and go get protein shakes and shit.
01:11:29.000 Sit there and feed the birds.
01:11:31.000 Sweet stuff.
01:11:33.000 Back when we was young, you'd buy girls cars.
01:11:36.000 I buy my whole scooters now.
01:11:39.000 The Razors.
01:11:41.000 Yeah, I get scooters.
01:11:42.000 I get you a scooter.
01:11:44.000 I really like the setup that you guys got.
01:11:48.000 Yeah, how you got the questions here, and we could really see it.
01:11:51.000 And I know some people write some dumb stuff, and I like how we're smart enough to overlook you ignorant asses.
01:11:58.000 Yeah, you ignorant asses.
01:12:00.000 I love it, though.
01:12:01.000 It's cool.
01:12:02.000 It's cool.
01:12:04.000 I'll read some of these chats real quick.
01:12:06.000 So Mr.
01:12:06.000 Ransom says, count my VIP ticket for the live event later this month.
01:12:09.000 Can't wait to meet y'all and prove the doubters wrong about my voice.
01:12:12.000 Also, I forgot to ask on Friday, did you guys start YouTube automation channels?
01:12:16.000 How's the progress so far?
01:12:17.000 Coming soon.
01:12:18.000 Venom goes, as a man, imagine going to a Diddy party and finding out you are one of the hoes.
01:12:25.000 That's what it goes.
01:12:26.000 Caught my VIP ticket for the live later this month.
01:12:29.000 Oh, no, I read that one.
01:12:30.000 Sorry.
01:12:31.000 Okay.
01:12:32.000 Caper.
01:12:32.000 It was Beretta.
01:12:34.000 That's from Caper.
01:12:36.000 I did that for an earlier conversation earlier.
01:12:38.000 Yeah.
01:12:38.000 What else?
01:12:39.000 That's it?
01:12:40.000 Okay, cool.
01:12:41.000 Do you have another question?
01:12:43.000 Actually, I'm ready for the girls.
01:12:45.000 No, I'm ready to promote my show one more time.
01:12:47.000 Yeah, go for it, bro.
01:12:48.000 So ladies and gentlemen, listen, get your tickets to my tour.
01:12:53.000 Catch me if you can.
01:12:54.000 Just go to LiveNation.com.
01:12:56.000 I'm coming to every city.
01:12:58.000 If you don't see your city up there yet, I promise you, we are coming.
01:13:02.000 Miami?
01:13:03.000 Yeah, we're coming to Miami for sure.
01:13:04.000 Yeah, Miami's not up there yet.
01:13:06.000 And the reason why it's not up there yet, because the big boys who does my routing are putting together the Netflix comedy special thing in Los Angeles, California.
01:13:20.000 Netflix Comedy Fest.
01:13:22.000 So that's big on their plate.
01:13:23.000 So when you've got people working in corporate America, and you're not really the top dog yet, but I'm in the top 100, I gotta wait.
01:13:31.000 So those things will be coming soon.
01:13:34.000 Coming soon.
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01:13:37.000 I want you to come through April 12th, 13th, 14th.
01:13:40.000 We also celebrate my birthday this Wednesday, April 3rd.
01:13:43.000 So if you're in Miami, make sure you come through.
01:13:45.000 I'm going to do my boy Noriega on the 3rd.
01:13:48.000 So I'm down here.
01:13:48.000 Shout out to Dream Champs.
01:13:50.000 So we're about to do our thing down there too.
01:13:52.000 Nice.
01:13:52.000 We'll go.
01:13:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:13:54.000 Come through.
01:13:54.000 Yeah, come through.
01:13:56.000 I'm going to have a big cake and all that kind of stuff.
01:13:59.000 We're going to do our thing.
01:14:00.000 That's what's up, man.
01:14:01.000 We'll support.
01:14:02.000 Guys, hope you guys enjoyed that show, man.
01:14:04.000 We had a legend in the house, man.
01:14:06.000 I feel like we went through a trip in memory lane, man.
01:14:08.000 We went in the 70s, 80s, 90s.
01:14:10.000 Yeah, the thing I love about our show, I could tell it was a mature show.
01:14:13.000 I wasn't saying nothing ignorant and nothing crazy.
01:14:16.000 I just want people to understand you can come on these shows And be a man or be a lady without being ignorant or saying things just to get people to...
01:14:27.000 The cloud chasing is crazy.
01:14:28.000 The cloud chasing is insane.
01:14:30.000 And that's what we want to stop.
01:14:32.000 One last question.
01:14:33.000 Obviously, you've been in entertainment for a very long time, right?
01:14:36.000 Right.
01:14:37.000 Was cloud chasing as bad back then as it is now?
01:14:40.000 With everyone having their own platform?
01:14:42.000 Right, this is what I think.
01:14:43.000 I think what we see is everything has been this way.
01:14:46.000 It's just that social media has boarded out, but it's now a disease and it's destroying people.
01:14:50.000 Like there are some people who you knew they were everywhere because they were hungry for success.
01:14:56.000 Maybe one or two people.
01:14:58.000 Everybody was trying to get it.
01:15:00.000 Even when women are taking their pictures by themselves and they post it.
01:15:05.000 You're looking for cloud chasing.
01:15:07.000 You're looking for someone to acknowledge you, to say that you're beautiful, to say that you're cute.
01:15:13.000 And then if that person goes in your DM, all of a sudden he's thirsty or he's confusing, but you rebate.
01:15:19.000 You lure that person in to do it.
01:15:21.000 It's like setting a guy up for crime.
01:15:25.000 You put some money there, walk away, but if he takes it, You gotta lock them up.
01:15:30.000 I love asking OGs this question.
01:15:32.000 You lived in a world, in your adult life by the way, where there was no social media.
01:15:36.000 Absolutely.
01:15:37.000 Not even cell phones.
01:15:38.000 Do you think social media has destroyed society?
01:15:42.000 Oh yes, absolutely.
01:15:46.000 Done.
01:15:46.000 I mean, think about it.
01:15:47.000 Let's start with the kids.
01:15:48.000 Depression went up over a thousand percent since 2006.
01:15:52.000 This is a study out.
01:15:53.000 Yeah, you're right.
01:15:53.000 Depression.
01:15:54.000 You got kids, they can't even do stuff around the house because they're like, I'm depressed.
01:15:57.000 And you go, what the fuck are you depressed about?
01:16:00.000 You ain't at war.
01:16:02.000 You got a house over your head.
01:16:04.000 You're eating good.
01:16:05.000 They will say that they're depressed.
01:16:07.000 And I tell people, and I had this on my program on my Instagram too long ago, I think most people are programmed to think they're depressed.
01:16:16.000 I agree with you.
01:16:17.000 I agree.
01:16:18.000 It's not real.
01:16:18.000 I mean, we go a step further.
01:16:19.000 We say it's not real.
01:16:20.000 Yeah.
01:16:21.000 Over nothing.
01:16:22.000 Yeah.
01:16:22.000 I think people say it, and you hear people say the press is real, but I truly believe that if your ass got up and worked out every day, if you stayed constantly busy every day, that you would not have time to think about the press.
01:16:35.000 But if you've been watching TV in the majority of your life, if you're watching this phone...
01:16:39.000 Jerking off.
01:16:39.000 Yeah, if you're watching this phone, and you start seeing the press, the press, you are...
01:16:45.000 You was programmed, you was influenced to think that way.
01:16:48.000 Because some people are like, I'm at this fucking job and I'm depressed.
01:16:51.000 No, young lady, you was programmed to think that you was depressed.
01:16:56.000 And people don't need to understand that.
01:16:57.000 And let me use an example.
01:16:58.000 In my era, nobody really talked about depressed.
01:17:01.000 Yeah.
01:17:02.000 Remember when they used to call it a shrink?
01:17:03.000 I mean, at least when I was growing up, if you went to a shrink, they'd make fun of you.
01:17:09.000 Yes.
01:17:09.000 You know, I don't know if that...
01:17:10.000 Yeah, but I mean, think about it.
01:17:11.000 In my era, I swear to God, you never heard that shit.
01:17:15.000 You never heard, motherfucker.
01:17:17.000 Nigga, goddamn, I ain't going to work.
01:17:18.000 I got therapy.
01:17:19.000 I'm depressed, bro.
01:17:20.000 I never heard of that in my life until the last 20, 25 years.
01:17:26.000 Yeah.
01:17:26.000 Wow.
01:17:27.000 Motherfuckers is depressed.
01:17:28.000 This is a new thing to me.
01:17:30.000 Epidemic.
01:17:31.000 Epidemic.
01:17:31.000 What is, and man, sometimes I wish I could go back to the 90s and live in the 90s as an adult and kind of see what life was like.
01:17:38.000 What is the biggest contrast difference between back then being an adult and going through life versus today?
01:17:47.000 Back then, you wanted to talk to somebody, you had beeper or go on a pay phone versus now you're just using a phone and text messaging or whatever.
01:17:56.000 We knew how to talk to people.
01:17:59.000 Now you guys talk everything through text.
01:18:02.000 And I always tell people if they ask me for something, you got to call me like a man or a woman.
01:18:07.000 Because I call the passive-aggressive.
01:18:09.000 If you ask me for something, you don't want to hear the answer.
01:18:12.000 So you're playing it safe.
01:18:14.000 But you got to hear my voice.
01:18:15.000 Okay.
01:18:16.000 You got to talk to me.
01:18:18.000 We're going to talk.
01:18:18.000 You ain't going to just text me what you want and ain't going to hear my voice.
01:18:22.000 And that's what social media is.
01:18:23.000 I was in Detroit.
01:18:25.000 I remember with us, you wanted to jump on the phone and talk to us.
01:18:27.000 I remember that.
01:18:28.000 I remember that, yeah.
01:18:29.000 You didn't want to go back and forth on text like, hey, can we just set up a call?
01:18:31.000 And I was like, yeah, sure.
01:18:32.000 Yeah, I remember that.
01:18:33.000 I ain't doing all this fucking texting.
01:18:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:18:36.000 So I saw, I was in the green room, like in your guys' room, in Detroit.
01:18:41.000 And they would talk about creating a class To get children to learn how to communicate with each other.
01:18:49.000 Wow.
01:18:50.000 Exactly.
01:18:51.000 Crazy world, man.
01:18:52.000 I couldn't believe...
01:18:53.000 When I saw that, I couldn't believe what I was watching.
01:18:56.000 Only getting worse, too.
01:18:57.000 It's only getting worse.
01:18:58.000 Even my daughter, who's beautiful, she'll say, Dad, men don't come up and talk.
01:19:02.000 Because I raise my kids a certain way.
01:19:04.000 Yeah.
01:19:06.000 Men don't approach women no more.
01:19:08.000 Yeah, it's actually not as common as people think.
01:19:10.000 You go to parties, men don't even ask women to dance.
01:19:14.000 You see a fine woman over there, they stare and they hope that the girl come to them.
01:19:19.000 Back in my day, you saw a girl, hey, gotta buy you a drink, gotta have a stand.
01:19:22.000 And the girl was like, girl, bye!
01:19:24.000 You know, you take her by the hand, bye!
01:19:27.000 You know, you're doing all that stuff.
01:19:29.000 A guy, you see your homie, they go!
01:19:31.000 You see a boy walking with a bad chick?
01:19:33.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:19:35.000 That's how I was back in the day.
01:19:37.000 And we didn't have to worry about somebody gonna kill you.
01:19:39.000 We knew everyone was gonna have a good time.
01:19:41.000 Call me when you get home.
01:19:43.000 You know, it was beautiful.
01:19:46.000 It's changed, man.
01:19:47.000 Do you notice a big difference when you talk to someone that was born in maybe, let's say, the year 2000 versus talking to someone that was born in the year 1980?
01:19:56.000 Now, when you're explaining the difference, what do you mean?
01:19:57.000 Like, for example, someone that was born in 2000, and I've noticed this when we're talking with younger people, because I was like the last generation, right?
01:20:04.000 I was born in 90, right?
01:20:05.000 So I didn't get social media and stuff like that until I was already an adult.
01:20:09.000 So thank God I grew up without that bullshit.
01:20:11.000 Yes.
01:20:11.000 So I was able to still understand that it's important to have the spoken word and talk to people.
01:20:15.000 Right.
01:20:15.000 But when I talk to people born in 2000, like these 20-year-olds, et cetera, people born after that, I'm like, wow, you have a real issue with being able to communicate effectively and be able to convey yourself in a way that I'm able to understand you.
01:20:26.000 They just can't.
01:20:27.000 I don't know what it is.
01:20:28.000 They argue more.
01:20:30.000 See, some people, when they yell and argue, they think that they're right.
01:20:33.000 Yeah.
01:20:33.000 But that doesn't always work.
01:20:35.000 And the goal of delivering the message is to make sure that you take the time to make sure that the person who's listening truly understands what you're saying so you can truly comprehend.
01:20:47.000 And if you can't deliver what you're trying to say to me, there's no way I'm going to understand what you're talking about.
01:20:55.000 Fair enough.
01:20:55.000 So you stay away.
01:20:56.000 That's why when I do meet women, instantly.
01:21:00.000 I ask for my age.
01:21:02.000 I know who to stay away from and who not to.
01:21:06.000 20 and 23-year-olds don't have their life together.
01:21:09.000 They're searching.
01:21:10.000 30-something years old, they're almost getting their life together, but they're still out here trying to do their thing.
01:21:17.000 40-year-old women, depending on what their journeys were, they probably had baby-daddy drama, still trying to get their life together, got their lives together, because they did make mistakes having babies, and they're still trying to get it, but they still have the early 30s But then there's a gift and a curse because if a girl don't take care of herself and she looks old as she gets 50,
01:21:39.000 you don't really want to rock her because you made money, you're successful.
01:21:43.000 You want a woman that took care of herself, but most women won't take care of themselves.
01:21:47.000 So then you go a little younger because this girl looks attractive.
01:21:52.000 Man, she's fine.
01:21:53.000 I want to be with someone that excites me.
01:21:57.000 So it's all confusion out here.
01:22:00.000 I have no idea which way to go.
01:22:03.000 So it's hit and miss, hit and miss.
01:22:05.000 And I just wish you guys the best.
01:22:09.000 That's all I'm going to say.
01:22:10.000 I wish you all the best.
01:22:12.000 Guys, he is TK Kirkland, man.
01:22:13.000 Make sure to go ahead and check out his tours, man.
01:22:15.000 He's going to be starting in April 12th, you said, right?
01:22:18.000 April 12th, 13th, and 14th.
01:22:20.000 The Punchline.
01:22:21.000 Go to Live Nation today.
01:22:22.000 It's going to be a sold-out event.
01:22:24.000 I'm truly excited.
01:22:25.000 Guys, listen to me.
01:22:26.000 It took us almost a year to get here, but we did it.
01:22:30.000 We're going to be back on the 26th.
01:22:31.000 Yeah, and he'll be back in Miami with us at our live event on the 26th, guys.
01:22:35.000 So make sure to come in.
01:22:36.000 I'm looking forward to that.
01:22:37.000 Check him out, man.
01:22:37.000 We'll catch you guys back here with some lovey ladies, man.
01:22:40.000 Right now.
01:22:40.000 Chris, call it...
01:22:42.000 1045.
01:22:43.000 So roughly in an hour, guys, we're going to start.
01:22:44.000 We'll try to get it started sooner.
01:22:46.000 We love y'all.
01:22:47.000 We'll be back with TK and some girls.
01:22:48.000 Peace!