In this episode, we talk about the New York Times and the way they report the news, and how they make up lies about what happened to Amadou Diallo, a black man who was shot to death by the NYPD in the Bronx. We also talk about how the NYPD is a shithole, and why you should be scared of cops in the city. Also, we read some of our favorite New York Post stories, including a story about a black kid who was mistaken for a suspect and shot by the police, and the one about an African immigrant who refused to put his hands up when asked to show his hands and was shot in the bottom of the foot by the cops, and then the story about how he was shot and killed was made up by the Times, and we discuss why the NYPD should be fired for making up lies like that and why it's a bad place to live in New York City, and what it's like to be a New York police officer. We also discuss the recent shooting of a young black man and how it could have been done better. And we answer your questions about the NYPD and its reporting, and our thoughts on it. Enjoy, and tweet us what you think! Timestamps: 1:00 - What's the worst thing the NYPD has ever reported on a black guy? 4:30 - What do you think of the NYPD? 6:10 - Is it a good place to shoot someone? 7:20 - Is the NYPD a good or bad place? 8:15 - Who would you want to live? 9: What kind of black guy you would you shoot? 11: What's your favorite kind of person? 13: What are you looking for? 16:40 - What would you do with your keys? 17:10 18:00 19:30 21:40 22:20 23:30 What are your thoughts on the best piece of food? 26:00 What s your favorite piece of news story? 27:15 28:00 Do you like it? 29:00 Is it weird? 30:30 Is it cool to get keys right? 31: What s the best place to eat? 32:30 Do you think it s cool? 35:00 Can you tell me what you're going to eat or not? 33:00
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00:00:16.000It's Arthur Sulzberger Jr., his son who took it over.
00:00:19.000They call him Pinch to make fun of him.
00:00:23.000But yeah, it was flushed down the toilet a long time ago.
00:00:27.000Early 2000s is when it really was done.
00:00:30.000Bill McGowan wrote a book called Coloring the News, and he talked about the way they report and how bad they are at it.
00:00:36.000Like that guy, what was his name, Amadou Diallo?
00:00:41.000um he was shot about 50 times and including in the bottom of his feet and um yeah and the story was that the cops the implication was the cops were just like let's go hunting negros die boy and then after he's down they're just like shooting at his feet
00:01:02.000That was the Times' version, and then, you know, they put cops in danger when they make up lies like that.
00:01:07.000The truth was, I think it was in the Bronx, and, uh, the Bronx is a fucking...
00:01:16.000The Bronx, the South Bronx in particular, is an absolute war zone.
00:01:22.000If you're a cop there right now, you are a dead man.
00:01:25.000I was talking to a guy whose brother's a cop the other day, and he said that he heard guys talking on their walkie-talkies about killing him.
00:01:33.000Like, yo, there's a cop on my, uh, on my corner right now.
00:01:36.000Should I just shoot him from here, or should I go up and blow his head off?
00:01:40.000He's like, hey guys, I'm on the same radio.
00:01:46.000Now one time I went away, well last time I went away to Jamaica, I came back and I had a week's, ten days worth of New York Posts, and I just started flipping through them all, and you get a really interesting perspective on New York when you read ten New York Posts in a row.
00:02:01.000And the perspective I got was, uh, this place is on fire!
00:02:07.000Like they had stories, there was at least three every paper, and the Post doesn't have that many stories.
00:02:14.000And it was like guys getting knocked out in the knockout game and then kids just running their pockets, I believe it's called, where you go up to an unconscious or possibly dead person and you take all his money and his cell phone and everything.
00:05:08.000But the tone of this New York Times article was that it's a trend and you could smell between the lines that it was just a fuck you to families.
00:05:18.000Like there's this, if you read it there, there's a lot of single mothers on pedestals and women's sisters doing it for themselves and then a lot of anti-family stuff that you read and a lot of anti-capitalist, pro-socialist stuff like charter schools.
00:05:31.000Everything you read about charter schools in the Times is shit.
00:05:34.000And my favorite headline ever was, though charter schools thrive, they're not available to everyone or they're still not for everyone.
00:07:23.000So, I had a guy call me from the New York Times recently, and I don't think people understand that when you are being, when you get a call from the New York Times, it's not like a guy in a suit anymore.
00:07:38.000It's a teenage, no, I was gonna say, it's a teenage mutant ninja turtle.
00:07:44.000Because I'm looking up emails as I talk, and my wires got crossed.
00:09:15.000And first of all, I'm really interested in porn and what it does to your brain, and I think that's a cool thing to write an article about, right?
00:09:27.000I've said this a million times, but I think porn in a marriage, when you're in the doghouse, you go beat off to a bunch of tens and you no longer give a shit that you're sleeping on the couch.
00:09:36.000And I think it leads slowly to divorce because couples separate.
00:09:41.000I think it's bad for millennial men, especially now when they're seen as a bunch of rapists.
00:09:47.000and they think hmm I could be me too'd and end up like that guy who fucked a mattress girl in the ass and ended up being known as a rapist and it ruined his life because she carried a mattress around with no real trial or Kale Hartman who was also framed or Terry Richardson or Dove Charney the list goes on and on Anthony Cumia got framed
00:10:11.000So I could just stay at home and beat off and not talk to chicks.
00:10:41.000We were joking around, as is our want, and we were talking about not beating off, and this is a, we did this in high school, we'd have challenges, and it was all, you know, it was all, what's it called, honor system.
00:10:56.000You would just say, I blew it last night, literally.
00:11:02.000Or Seinfeld, it was a Seinfeld episode.
00:11:14.000And then I would correspond with Dante a lot and I was, I'd say, Hey dude, have you noticed that you're like singing in the shower and skipping when you walk down the street and you feel like you could beat up anyone in the world and you're totally comfortable talking to anyone at any time, even if you're hung over in the morning on the train?
00:12:24.000It is now anti-Semitic to be against porn.
00:12:32.000And her article said, uh, said, you know, uh, a lot of the Nazis talk about how Jews dominate American porn and how you're letting the Jew destroy the American family by masturbating.
00:12:48.000Again, it's the all cats are mammals, all dogs are mammals, all dogs are cats bullshit.
00:14:23.000I gotta just take a little sexist moment here to say that I've noticed a pattern with females in writing where they don't really get to the point.
00:14:32.000And you read an article written by a woman and it is often way too verbose.
00:14:38.000It looks like the notes for an article.
00:14:40.000Like Cathy Young just wrote a hit piece on Dave Rubin that's pretty timid.
00:14:49.000And you're reading it going, what's your point?
00:14:51.000I don't know where you're going with this.
00:14:54.000If you can't say something in a thousand words, it's probably not worth saying.
00:14:59.000And you think, okay, you've written out your general thoughts and this is a sort of a giant bucket where you've thrown in all your notes and every one you've interviewed.
00:15:07.000Now let that sit for 24 hours and then write your article.
00:17:58.000They also, we also say, no flip-flops.
00:18:01.000In fact, there's Proud Boys with shirts that have flip-flops and cargo shorts crossed out.
00:18:06.000Why are the Proud Boys so obsessed with flip-flops?
00:18:08.000Fear of men's feet show a deep, latent homophobia.
00:18:12.000Like, they start with this bizarre hypothesis, and then, like a snowplow, just go... through information to get to the end, pushing out anything that doesn't fit their stupid hypothesis.
00:18:26.000Masturbation bans are popular among organizations that seek to enhance group loyalty.
00:18:58.000But then these people leave school, and they use that stupid hippo gay shit to crowbar in their own lies.
00:19:06.000And the next thing you know, they're trying, they got a picture of me, and they're talking about how fucking the KKK was against masturbation too.
00:19:16.000Anyway, this makes me just hammer that fucking guy.
00:19:20.000And I point out to him that this cunt Lex Albatreen, whatever her name is, I go through her Twitter.
00:19:27.000And by the way, Twitter has ruined left-wing journalists who solicit people for stories and say, hey, I'm a totally impartial journalist.
00:20:43.000Like there was a story in Spokane, Washington that was written and it made it to the Associated Press and it was,
00:20:51.000Hate has a resurgence in the Pacific Northwest and of course they use the same picture that this bitch uses in Medium just basically because when you go to Getty Images and you look up Proud Boys you see this cool picture of me looking incredibly stylish with my skull and crossbones tie holding my fist up by the way and saying Uhuru at a Berkeley free speech rally where Ann Coulter had been banned so I read her speech and this is used as an example of the neo-fascist whatever stupid terms they come up with.
00:21:21.000And they do this thing where they include all these bonafide Nazi groups, and then they throw in Proud Boys and other ones that aren't Nazis.
00:21:27.000And that, you know, to the incurious, it all looks like the same thing.
00:21:30.000Luckily, the comments were really good, and I had my lawyers contact them and change the picture.
00:21:39.000But the Times, the Times, this is how they do journalism.
00:21:43.000So when you're reading these articles, know that the sources that they're using are from Medium, Twitter, Antifa.
00:21:55.000So he says, yeah, I was hoping to talk to you about how, according to what I've read, members of the Proud Boys must restrict their porn use to once a month.
00:22:03.000I wanted to ask about this and other related matters.
00:22:06.000By the way, here are the rules that we came up with.
00:22:50.000So I said to him, sure I'll talk to you, blah blah blah.
00:22:53.000I said, has it ever occurred to any of you, and by the way I also said, whenever I start these discussions with a journalist, especially from left-wing media like the New York Times, I try to start out nice.
00:23:42.000I said I'm tired of media calling everyone who doesn't abide by the latest lefty fads quote-unquote far right.
00:23:49.000Proud Boys are multi-racial, multi-ethnic, gays, Jews, couldn't care less about gay marriage, want to legalize drugs, many atheists and outright hedonists, etc, etc.
00:27:25.000And then I said, ridiculous academic interpretation, colon, the far right men's club only, men's only club demands its members eschew social media and focus on in-person meetings while elder members can control the discussion.
00:27:36.000See, I'm, I'm saying a normal thing about a men's club, which is if you don't go to meetings, then you're not in it.
00:27:42.000And then I'm showing how they would interpret that.
00:27:45.000You must focus on in-person meetings where elder members can control the discussion.
00:27:49.000Members inevitably become cut off from their other friends, and the club becomes their only contact with the outside world.
00:27:58.000And then he starts distancing himself from the woman who wrote the piece, saying, It sounds like me.
00:28:04.000In any case, my interest isn't in her interpretation, but rather in some of these parallel movements among disparate conservative right-wing groups to swear off point- Why are they so obsessed?
00:30:01.000They actually have brainwashed themselves into thinking they're these civil rights freedom fighters crusading for justice and preventing Nazis.
00:30:08.000And they float along based on some bullshit study that says, actually, white nationalism, terrorism, that kind of terrorism is way more than jihadists.
00:30:17.000And they'll find like Christchurch and fucking
00:31:13.000And, by the way, there was a great thread on Twitter.
00:31:16.000I mentioned it on my Telegram, which is real Gavin McInnes, where this guy looked at thousands and thousands of Twitter journalists, journalists in general on Twitter, and linked them to Antifa and saw how many of them were using Antifa as a source, sometimes the only source, and creating these shit articles that get people fired.
00:31:38.000You know, I've talked about this many times, but
00:31:42.000There's a witch hunt going on, which is pretty bad.
00:31:44.000But it's a witch hunt run by festering babies.
00:32:03.000Where they have intellect and they've looked stuff up.
00:32:06.000And they can, they're saying points that you haven't heard before.
00:32:10.000I was just thinking today, you know, when people talk about, oh, this is a reputable source, the New York Times or the media, blah, blah, blah, said this about Trump.
00:32:18.000You're talking about an era where the media convinced half the country that Donald Trump, the president of the United States, paid prostitutes to piss on a bed that Obama once slept in.
00:32:32.000That was a fake document pushed by the Daily Beast and it one day magically became fact because we're living in clown world.
00:32:40.000Not one person went, yeah, I don't think that sounds... What's your source for that?
00:32:47.000It's like they have no instincts anymore.
00:32:52.000And I also said, white supremacist terrorism does not outnumber jihadist attacks.
00:32:57.000If you fall for that stat, you're an incurious amateur.
00:33:01.000I said, roping Proud Boys into Nazi anti-porn shit is exactly the kind of trick the left uses to pump up the number of alt-right incidences in America.
00:33:39.000Because they are calling the Knights of Columbus a hate group.
00:33:44.000In fact, I think it was Brett Kavanaugh or some other congressman who was asked, were you aware when you joined a men's only club that it was anti a woman's right to choose?
00:35:40.000You are focusing on the Covington Catholic school kids doing nothing wrong while the black Hebrew Israelites are right next to them screaming out all the bigotry a New York Times reporter could ever dream of.
00:36:56.000The Medium blog isn't the only article that says the PB has several levels of membership and that swearing off masturbation is one of them.
00:39:00.000So, we said, you're fourth degree now.
00:39:02.000Again, there's a sense of humor in there.
00:39:05.000By the way, the guy who was in prison, in the tombs, in jail that night, he told me that all the black dudes that were with him thought they're never getting out.
00:39:14.000That's how brainwashed they are by all these bullshit Nazi lies.
00:39:18.000So, day one, Trump goes, alright, everyone in every country, everyone in every country, I can't do a good Trump.
00:40:51.000I said, the ominous fourth degree was quickly taken out of context by conservative gadflies, meaning flies who fly around conservatives, desperate to find violence and danger where there was none.
00:41:01.000You need to understand, you are researching a group that is under an avalanche of fake news.
00:41:05.000Going to these sites for information is like asking the Yankees about the Red Sox.
00:42:11.000Martina Marcotta, performance artist living in New York.
00:42:14.000She sees these women get old and get forgotten.
00:42:17.000If you want to see women get abused, live in New York City and see them just get used as fuck puppets their whole lives and then dumped when they get really, really disgusting and old like 32.
00:44:41.000And you have writers like Rob Kuznia going to Vox and Medium and Antifa and all these other sources to talk about the impending threat of Hitler Youth that has somehow risen up from the German grave like a zombie.
00:46:05.000You attach the tank of your toilet, Biffy.com, and it splashes your ass with such intense water, you don't even need toilet paper.
00:46:15.000And if you become a real anal ninja, you can relax your anal lips into a baby yawning, and the next thing you know, you're blasting water up your butt.
00:46:26.000And by the way, drunks, if you're wondering why your ass is a mess, it's because you're shitting out stomach acid.
00:46:34.000You had 37 shits this morning, because your body's overdigesting, because your body's confused about what's in it, and they think it's poison, so it overdigests.
00:46:44.000And the next morning, you have 37 shits from all the work your body's been doing, and they run out of food pretty quick, so the next thing you know,
00:46:52.000They're burning your ass with stomach acid and bile.
00:46:54.000I'm almost 40 and I can't shit without toilet paper.
00:47:00.000And read that it looks like someone wiped a rusty 8-inch nail on it after slaughtering someone in cold blood.
00:47:05.000Also just want to say thank you for not allowing Ryan's obtuse and borderline handicap responses to your questions and statements go unpunished.
00:47:11.000As draining and torturous as he is to listen to, you make it work.
00:47:16.000I said old shit on Ryguy in a shit letter.
00:47:20.000Dear Gavin, I stopped using condoms, like you said, and now I got fucking AIDS.
00:48:01.000I owned a recording studio and we were fuck buddies in the movie.
00:48:09.000So there's pictures of us online next to each other and I always say that I broke up her and Johnny Depp because we look like we're in a relationship because we were being filmed in a relationship.
00:48:18.000But yeah, it's totally possible they cut me down to nothing.
00:48:21.000You should see me in the studio with her and then I go for a long walk with her where I'm trying to get her back.
00:48:53.000Yes, it's called You Don't Have a Dad.
00:48:57.000The subway kids are fucking losers and they have no shame because they never had a dad slap them upside the head and say, don't beg.
00:49:07.000Don't go on the subway and dance around on a stripper pole.
00:49:11.000And then say, can you give me money because I spun around in circles on a pole like a fucking stripper wearing sweatpants and swinging their head by people?
00:49:22.000Look, it's not easy to fight seven very fit teens from the hood who have no idea what consequences are, what ramifications mean, so they don't think they're going to jail.
00:49:36.000If they beat the shit out of you or kill you.
00:49:38.000So it's not easy to just beat them all up and say, get the fuck out of my face.
00:50:07.000You're just swinging around in a pole.
00:50:09.000But one thing you could try and don't, you know, don't do this if you don't feel safe.
00:50:15.000So don't sue me if you do this and get shot.
00:50:18.000But one thing I like to do if I want to confront people and not get stabbed, you do an accent and you come on to them like a very friendly tourist.
00:50:30.000Like I do this with cab drivers sometimes, but I'll get to that in a sec because it's slightly different.
00:53:22.000Because here, you know, nattering away for hours and hours on the phone, someone who's babysitting, like a girl, who's watching, like, the Jonas Brothers, or a raging homosexual.
00:53:31.000But I guess in your culture, it's also, what, straight men?
00:54:03.000I moved out since I bought the bike, so now I need to change the address on the registration before I can renew the registration.
00:54:09.000I'm now waiting for the DMV to email me my new address papers so that I can fill out the form a second goddamn time to actually get the fresh registration.
00:54:18.000And don't forget the close to $200 I'll be out before I can finally sell the damn thing.
00:55:02.000We were at this park the other day, and I was sitting down with new parents, trying to ingratiate myself into a neighborhood that wasn't going well.
00:55:08.000And I said, this fucking park, how long are they working on this?
00:55:11.000It's just a bunch of parts you assemble.
00:55:29.000And then I realize I'm talking to someone who helped set up the fundraiser to build the park and they're like, well, it actually went really well.
00:55:35.000We're happy about, you know, there's a lot of paperwork.
00:55:56.000I have pissed the bed many times post-lent.
00:55:59.000Because my tolerance goes back to zero and drinking half a bottle of Makers is just not possible.
00:56:06.000You also piss the bed if you have amphetamines or coke because you're drinking more than your body would normally allow.
00:56:12.000But once you get your tolerance up, you stop pissing in bed.
00:56:14.000But I would also recommend, if you've been drinking like crazy, train your brain to not let your body go to bed and to sleep on a leather couch in the basement.
00:56:43.000I met with one of these older, decrepit women in her late 30s or 40s.
00:56:47.000I'm 28, and I was trying to hook up, but it didn't happen.
00:56:50.000Um, what ensued was a heated conversation with her African-American friend.
00:56:55.000I should have seen this coming as she was very outspoken, had said the bartender had mistreated her because she was black, asked me to guess her age.
00:57:02.000I asked, how am I supposed to know that?
00:59:33.000She said, don't we, don't we live in, wait a minute, she admitted murders, she said that four states had already brought up harsh abortion laws.
01:00:04.000It's not a gang... It's not a blood's choice to shoot a crip.
01:00:08.000You don't get a choice when it's considered murder by half the population.
01:00:13.000Anyway... I said that it's funny how this topic, abortion, men aren't allowed a voice while there's no other topic when it comes to women.
01:00:21.000Yeah, like... Women are allowed to discuss conscription when men get drafted into a war.
01:00:28.000She then brought up rape and said a relative had been raped by her stepbrother at 11, child was born and nothing happened to the rapist, which is not, that's against the law.
01:01:02.000I'm I'm more of a conception guy Rape and incest I think is an interesting discussion But uh we too far stray from there Okay, here's an interesting one muscular genius
01:01:22.000Hey Gavin, blackpilled doesn't mean very alt-right, it means cynical or nihilist in relation to something.
01:01:26.000Like how John is redpilled on X topic, you would say I'm blackpilled on X topic.
01:03:36.000People like Richard Spencer, Patrick Little, I don't know who that is, David Duke, and straight-up Nazi boomers have made it untouchable by people who share a handful of overlapping views.
01:03:43.000Think civic nationalists who acknowledge there are problems with diversity and cohesion between different racial groups.
01:03:49.000Before you say who fucking cares, I think it's important for the movement as a whole
01:03:53.000And I guess by the movement he means the non-liberal group.
01:04:35.000You're a middle-aged man who likes comic books, shitty punk music, and fashion.
01:04:41.000Honestly, I just saw that list of hobbies.
01:04:43.000I would assume you like superheroes too.
01:04:45.000You lecturing us on gay hobbies is even worse than ex-skinheads lecturing on tolerance because at least they stopped being skinheads before they started lecturing.
01:04:53.000Your hobbies are for fags and your shit's all retarded.
01:04:56.000Jake E. Jake E. First of all, Jake E. The reason I talk about superheroes so much is because they're everywhere.
01:05:05.000Every time I check the news, it's endgame.
01:05:07.000I mean, that's finally settling down, but everywhere I go, there's grown men wearing superhero t-shirts.
01:05:14.000When I go to the gym, when I go to the train, when I go to important meetings, some guy's got a wolverine on his chest.
01:05:20.000Every party I go to, all the bars, they're talking about Endgame.
01:05:55.000And... Or, if they're not bumbling idiots who are scared of her, they're, you know, fucking gigantic deathly murderers who she kicks the living shit out of on a regular basis.
01:10:47.000Love your work and all that, my favorite podcast, but I think you're spreading dangerous misinformation about this non-wanking shit.
01:10:55.000Caveat, I have a malignant ball removed a few years ago, so this may only apply to other single shooters, but I'm on the back... Oh, minor detail.
01:11:03.000That's a pretty big detail, but I'm on the back of like a month, maybe even two, of unspanking and I'm writing right now from a fresh ball doctor's office after being given all the all-clear from recurring testicle cancer.
01:11:54.000It gave me terrifying ball pain, terrifying psychic pain, and it didn't help me want to bang the old lady at all, which is probably my main motivation.
01:12:03.000The fact is, it just made me want to assail anything else with an observable pair of tits, and to which, disgustingly, I genuinely regret to say, I did.
01:12:13.000I got spaz a few weeks ago and poked this grotesque cougar who's been stalking me for years at the pub.
01:12:18.000I never would have thought I was capable of it and I couldn't be less attracted to the chick.
01:12:22.000A total professional rapist fat bird by the way.
01:12:24.000Preys on the drunk and helpless around three in the morning and strikes me like a clumsy Glenn Close.
01:12:30.000I was destroyed and carrying a little liter of spoiling spunk in my bag.
01:13:34.000So he's either got a problem with his relationship, or if he's single, he's not getting out there enough.
01:13:39.000Like, even if you're a single male in the city, you should be getting laid once every three or four days.
01:13:45.000And if that means fucking a fat pig once in a while, fine.
01:13:49.000That still means you're fucking a babe once a week.
01:13:53.000So I think this guy's problem is not that he wasn't wanking, his problem is that he was not, uh, fucking, uh, what's the word I'm looking for?
01:14:28.000Oh, we've got a new sponsor coming up, but I'll announce that.
01:14:31.000I'm not announcing the name of the site or anything until it's done.
01:14:36.000I like you more than a friend, and as we say on our new show, which should be launching, well, the schedule says June 1st, but I don't want to launch it until it's perfect, so it might be a little later than that.
01:14:47.000But it'll be launching there with my Copper Cab fight, some debates, Roger Stone, Cornel West, Milo Yiannopoulos, Nick DiPaolo, that little chick Soph, lots of interesting people you haven't heard of, and crazy shit like that.
01:15:04.000So get fired, get in trouble, be brave, and never stop fighting.