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00:00:22.000And I don't think Joe Rogan likes shit.
00:00:25.000Like he told me after I was on the first time, he goes, yeah, a lot of people were real mad at me for having you on something about anti-Muslim stuff or whatever.
00:00:33.000And I sort of said, yeah, dude, that's the deal.
00:00:38.000Like it's almost like someone getting into pro wrestling and saying, yeah, when I got in the ring there and I started fighting Hulk Hogan, all these people were yelling boo at me.
00:01:20.000But I think, so my theory is he got a lot of flack and then Alex Jones started attacking him and saying that he's getting paid by Jack Dorsey to promote Twitter.
00:02:29.000Pertaining to bias, you have the issue of Antifa versus the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer.
00:02:33.000And Twitter permanently excised anyone associated with the Proud Boys, Antifa accounts who have broken the rules repeatedly, branded known cells that have been involved in violence, all still active.
00:02:46.000Well, with the Proud Boys, what we were able to do was actually look at documentation and announcements that, you know, the leaders of that organization had made and their use of violence in the real world.
00:03:11.000This reminds me of the SPLC, where they're able to destroy people's lives, but then you look at the way they talk, and they're just so half-assed.
00:03:25.000So she's talking about Pat Buchanan like he's this fucking Nazi stormtrooper, yet this woman is writing for the SPLC and they're making major decisions about people's lives.
00:03:36.000Similarly, this woman, this Indian woman, Vijaya,
00:03:41.000is able to say, yeah, we ban this group, which ends up being hundreds of people, and they can't defend themselves anymore, too.
00:03:48.000So now when people say, you know, Proud Boys took a plea in court on Friday, they can't say, no, no, one guy took a plea that was a Proud Boy, another guy took a plea that wasn't, and they didn't really have serious charges, and it was five days community service, so they thought, fuck it, I'm not gonna go to court for five days of picking up garbage.
00:04:07.000The other guys who are facing jail, which you can find on OfficialProudBoys.com, Doug, John, and Max, they all said, no, we're not taking that deal.
00:04:16.000That deal sucks, and we didn't do anything wrong.
00:04:20.000But this idea that leaders were calling for violence, A, there's no leaders, and B, okay, so you're anti-violence, so that must mean you're real hard on Hamas.
00:04:56.000So, Tim Poole is pretty thorough, but Joe Rogan, he talks to comedians, and he has a good time, and he's very philosophical, but he's not like a research nut, the way Ann Coulter would be.
00:05:07.000And even Joe knows that that whole FBI thing is bullshit.
00:05:18.000Like, the far left can take this shitty small-town police report from Vancouver, Washington, where some guy wants to cover his ass for firing a Proud Boy Girl sheriff.
00:05:27.000So he says, uh, the FBI were here and, uh...
00:05:31.000I don't know, they said that the Proud Boys have ties to white nationalists and they're extremists.
00:05:37.000I'm gonna put that in the report just so that she can't sue me.
00:05:41.000Then the far left gets a hold of that, that guy Jason Chittyteeth at the Guardian.
00:05:46.000He said to me when I met him at a Tommy Robbins and then he goes, hello, I'm actually from the UK.
00:05:50.000And I go, I know dude, I can tell by your teeth.
00:06:51.000I call, I know them from my death threats.
00:06:54.000And they go, the first guy I talked to goes, yeah, that's not really what we do.
00:06:58.000We don't really deem groups, and you go to their website and they do deem like major groups, you know, ISIS, yes, terrorist group.
00:07:06.000So they talk about the biggies, but they don't really mention, you know, Patriot Prayer or even like bonafide racist biker gangs like the Aryan Brotherhood.
00:07:17.000They're not on—the FBI doesn't—they deal with the individual.
00:07:22.000You'll notice with the New York City Football Club, they're trying to—they said, we need to get the racists out of this club, and they talk about this one Latino skinhead.
00:07:44.000Like, if I'm at a soccer game, and someone in that crowd is a racist, an actual bonafide racist, which these guys aren't, I don't give a shit.
00:07:52.000I don't give a shit about what a stranger's thoughts are.
00:07:57.000I mean, it's one thing if they're throwing bananas on the pitch when a black player comes out, which Russians do, and Brits always got accused of that.
00:08:04.000But, like, why do you care what someone's thoughts are, you fucking weirdo?
00:08:09.000And, by the way, if you do start rounding up people for having racist thoughts, I think whites are going to be some of the last group that gets rounded up.
00:08:17.000Talk to an old Korean guy about his daughter dating a black man.
00:09:24.000And so, now she comes over to my apartment, my dad's apartment, and then, so it's just me and her, nobody's there, and my grandmother's visiting, you know, so she's out somewhere, she's taking a walk or something, and I have my shirt off, and she's kneeling on her knees, and it looks like my shirt's off and she's kneeling down, like about to blow me or something, and my Japanese grandmother walks in, and I don't, she doesn't speak any English, so,
00:09:50.000I don't speak Japanese, so they're just talking in Japanese trying to explain their way out of this.
00:10:11.000They were pretty conservative to some degree.
00:10:14.000So, yeah, my dad was like, oh, my grandson's penis is going in lady's mouth because it has extra nerve endings and it will be pleasurable to him.
00:10:23.000I wound up learning Japanese later on in life and I look back and she actually said, where are the tentacles at?
00:10:46.000And I know a friend of mine, a Jewish woman, she clogged a toilet when she was dating her Japanese boyfriend, who she's married to now, and they have three kids.
00:10:57.000But it was her first time meeting his parents, and she fucking clogged the toilet.
00:11:36.000They'd start rubbing it all over themselves.
00:11:39.000But no, the Japanese dad, very clinical, of course, which is why I brought up that thing about your grandmother, and he's like, oh, you are very healthy.
00:13:57.000Because we live in an insane time where it's wrong to be an unashamed male.
00:14:02.000Look at little boys in kindergarten getting penalized for being boisterous and being sent to a therapist where they have to take Ritalin to calm them down because boys can't be boys.
00:14:17.000We are living in a strange time where men are the butt of all jokes.
00:14:21.000Homer Simpson is our icon and everyone else is put on a pedestal.
00:14:26.000So if you're just, not even rubbing it in people's faces, but just quietly meeting and starting a funny men's club, then you need to be stopped.
00:14:42.000Yes, there have been a couple guys who went to rallies.
00:14:46.000There's been way more charity work that no one ever talks about.
00:14:50.000And as far as the violence goes, things are not getting out of hand.
00:14:56.000The reaction might be getting out of hand.
00:14:58.000So they get ambushed by Antifa, and Antifa tells the police to fuck off.
00:15:05.000Instead of that being ignored, which it should have been, that becomes the Attorney General, the Mayor and the Governor going ballistic on the top brass and making the police round everyone up.
00:15:17.000But not the people, like to say, for Rogan to say this probably saying, just got out of hand.
00:15:23.000That's like saying, you know, these guys, they started, they got involved in black magic and stuff in Salem in the 1700s or whenever it was.
00:15:32.000And then, you know, and then they talk about all the witches getting round up and burnt, and then they just got out of hand.
00:15:37.000No, we're not getting out of hand because someone's burning us at the stake.
00:15:41.000It's the reaction that got out of hand.
00:15:43.000But as far as the day-to-day goes, there's been zero fucking change.
00:15:47.000And I did not quit the group because of a fake FBI designation.
00:16:10.000It has a leader and they do illegal activities.
00:16:12.000If I quote-unquote step down from my non-existent leadership position, then it hurts the prosecution's case that we're dealing with a gang.
00:16:21.000So I did it to hurt the prosecution's case.
00:16:26.000And I don't think it helped, to be honest.
00:16:28.000You know, John is still facing a year in prison, Max is still facing six months in prison, and Doug is still facing three years probation.
00:16:36.000Two of those people, John and Doug, married to black women, tons of black kids, fired from their jobs, moving back in with their parents because they're white supremacists.
00:16:45.000That is the fucking clown world we're living in.
00:16:48.000So, we didn't change, the world became more clown.
00:18:00.000So I meet Paul Reubens, and I go, wow, it's an honor, you know, I grew up watching your show, my band used to cover your opening show, blah, blah, blah.
00:18:09.000And then I told him the Large Marge story, expecting him to laugh.
00:18:13.000And he just sort of looks at me cautiously.
00:18:15.000I think it's possible he thought I was like a Jerky Boys kind of guy and I was fucking with him.
00:18:31.000And he said, yeah, yeah, I hear that a lot.
00:18:35.000And I go, oh, okay, well, I guess it's pretty, I wonder why that is, and he goes, maybe, you know, it's kind of alarming, the scene comes out of nowhere, and I think kids are genuinely shocked by it.
00:19:57.000And I referenced that to him because I figure people don't reference that a lot and he was like, oh, yeah The other human spirit and about he knows it still and how he knew a movie he was in but yeah But he what a real Alex Jones buff.
00:20:08.000He is he's still here's the thing is usually people are too disconnected with their work They're like, oh, yeah, that was yeah, I did that thing a while ago, but he was like, yeah Yeah, he's still proud of it and it fucking ruled.
00:20:16.000So that was like a nice little moment there Yeah, no, it wasn't it was a stupid moment.
00:20:20.000Oh, everyone knows the movies they were in.
00:20:41.000...gang based on him, because he was a very effeminate guy, and they would call him the Proud Boys.
00:20:46.000And, um, they went into detail about how this thing became from a joke, and saying that you could join the Proud Boys, and everyone was, you know, it was like being silly, to people joining it, and then it becoming this thing to fight Antifa, and then becoming infested with white nationalists, and becoming... Tim Poole calls it there.
00:21:11.000So, so yeah, we fought Antifa because they attacked me when I was doing a talk and then we realized they're attacking all our friends and drenching Lauren Southern in piss twice.
00:21:22.000I know I've used violent language in the past, but it was always fight back.
00:21:24.000When I said choke a tranny, I meant I was talking specifically about a video where this tranny was hassling this black MAGA supporter and he wouldn't do anything.
00:21:57.000Just because you go to a Trump thing or go to see a talk and you've beat up guys who are trying to kill you, which by the way Joe Rogan talks about Rufio's punch heard around the world and Alex Jones had Rufio on.
00:22:10.000I'm talking about the Antifa kid who whipped Rufio with an asp twice and then Rufio knocked him out with a wild right-wing haymaker.
00:24:20.000Once I kind of tried this like Scooby-Doo, Shaggy, although Shaggy's pretty high-strung, but like when they're, they've had a hamburger, so just like, hey man, more of a Cheech and Chong thing, like I'm just in the ring bro, I'm just hanging out, and that does retain your energy, but then
00:26:34.000Like when you hear a gun in a TV show, it's like, but if you hear a gun in an apartment building, it's like, yeah, it sounds like someone farting on a piece of steak.
00:27:16.000There is so much fucking footage of me being gay.
00:27:20.000And if you wanted to put together a sizzle reel proving I'm gay, it would be easy.
00:27:24.000But they don't want to, no one cares about that.
00:27:26.000But they do want to find Nazis, so they can put together sizzle reels where I look bad, where Proud Boys look bad.
00:27:31.000You know, no one ever talks about all the charity Proud Boys do, but they'll find the one guy, they'll find Jason Kessler, who tried to infiltrate the group twice, and was booted out twice, and ended up organizing Charlottesville, where he, where I got in a fight with him about it and said, you lied, you said you weren't
00:27:50.000I also disavowed that fucking thing about two months before it happened.
00:27:53.000But no, we were a big part of Charlottesville to the mainstream media.
00:27:59.000And yes, there have been like out of 6,000 guys, probably 60 chapters worldwide, there have been about five or six or seven that have been tossed out for being alt-right.
00:28:10.000So, that doesn't mean that it fosters bigotry.
00:28:16.000William F. Buckley would talk about Nazis in National Review and how every couple years you'd have to break out the broom and sweep them out.
00:29:18.000What about our buddy Sal, who made some unfortunate jokes and went to some unfortunate things because he's a young kid and he was always just an extreme duty, he was an Occupy Wall Street protester.
00:29:31.000And he gets vilified, he gets fired, starts a new life, new job moves, gets fired again, he gets hounded by these fucking, this swarm of bees that the SPLC puts on you.
00:29:40.000Eventually he gets to the point where the only people that he can hang out with are alt-right.
00:29:55.000I mean, he never hit anybody because they're... Almost everyone we kicked out has never been for any bonafide violent act.
00:30:01.000It's always been for like putting up a Confederate flag and we say, look, we get that the Stars and Bars is innocent, but in this day and age, you're getting more people fired.
00:30:10.000Or Pax, who does that Mel Gibson joke about getting raped by a pack of N's, and then they found the tweet years later, devoid of the Mel Gibson reference, he's fired from his entire industry.
00:30:20.000These people don't just get fired from their job, they get killed from that career.
00:30:23.000I believe he's raising fucking emus now, in the middle of nowhere.
00:30:28.000And so you get resentful, and the next thing you know you're like, maybe I am alt-right.
00:31:41.000The other school of thought, which I think I'm more apt to go with, is very Catholic people and old Italian families go, uh-oh, you've got the plague, you're the gay, go into the church, maybe that'll, you could pray it away, maybe that'll get rid of it.
00:31:55.000And then, of course, after a while they go,
00:32:19.000And I, we tend to lump them together, but I don't think Michael Jackson, well he, that's a bad example because they were, they weren't post-pubescent, but like the Catholic priests, they were closeted homosexuals.
00:32:33.000All right, so, again, things are not getting out of hand.
00:32:37.000And by the way, yes, Ben Ratner, the producer of Anthony Kuma's show, was a big inspiration for Proud Boys, but it came from, I went to a kid's recital, and they were all playing piano and violin and guitar and drums, and then this one kid comes up and he sings Proud of Your Boy from Aladdin, which you have to check out online.
00:32:56.000The lyrics just make you want to strangle the guy.
00:33:00.000It's so self-aggrandizing while being self-deprecating.
00:33:31.000It's just such a me-me-me anthem and it sort of sums up everything wrong with men, or at least the bastardization of men, so we kind of locked in on it and we make fun of that song every day.
00:33:44.000It came from a joke and saying that you could join the Proud Boys and everyone was, you know, it was like being silly to people joining it and then it becoming this thing to fight Antifa and then becoming infested with white nationalists and becoming this thing.
00:34:02.000Well, in many ways it was, but it's been documented how it started and what it was and misrepresented as to why it was started.
00:34:13.000I think there's some things that should be clarified about them, but Gavin has made a bunch of statements that cross the line.
00:34:19.000He claims to be joking, and so that's... Well, he did on my podcast.
00:34:22.000He was talking to me about Antifa, that when Antifa was blocking people like Ben Shapiro's speeches and things along those lines and stopping conservatives from speaking, you should just punch them in the face.
00:34:32.000We're going to have to start kicking people's asses.
00:34:33.000And I was like, this is irresponsible.
00:34:35.000And they weren't just standing in front of us.
00:34:40.000Like, at the Deplora Ball, there was 500 people throwing piss and shit and maybe the problem was with guys like Joe Rogan is they don't get out much.
00:34:58.000Dude, outside of Deplora Ball, out of the three friends, I was the only one with a ticket and I didn't go in for like an hour and a half because I was getting footage but then I was in the middle of it with my MAGA hat on
00:35:09.000I didn't believe that we were in America.
00:35:10.000I've never seen anything like that before, because there's fires being started, there's fights everywhere, like... What about my time at MIU, where I was pepper-sprayed and you were arrested?
00:35:51.000So, yeah, I think when you haven't been to one of these things and you hear me say, just punch Antifa, they think I'm saying go up to them on the bus and just start wailing on them.
00:36:00.000No, what I'm saying is they're not just standing in Ben Shapiro's way, they're attacking people.
00:36:07.000They have, like, Lauren Southern, I was talking about her being drenched in piss and someone sent me a letter and they're like, I was with Lauren Southern at Berkeley and an M-80 bounced off her head.
00:36:16.000A major firecracker, lucky she had a helmet on.
00:36:58.000You have in Portland, for instance, there are specific branded factions.
00:37:04.000There's the tweet I mentioned earlier, where they doxed ICE agents and they said, do whatever inspires you with this information.
00:37:11.000And I mean, you're tagged in a million times.
00:37:13.000I know you probably can't see it, but you can actually see that some of the tweets and the threat are removed.
00:37:17.000But the main tweet itself from an anti-fascist account linking to a website straight up saying, like, here's the private home details, phone number, addresses of these law enforcement officers is not removed since September.
00:37:27.000Not only are ICE agents getting doxed with their home addresses, but undercover cops, MS-13 in Long Island, is doxing undercover cops.
00:37:44.000And this, by the way, ignores the part where you don't hear about when cops bust a major heroin deal that's $30,000.
00:37:53.000And not only does that guy die for getting caught with the money, but the gangs want to go after the cops who made the arrest.
00:38:00.000So they've got to sleep with a shotgun next to their bed.
00:38:12.000It probably was an extremist group, but it was a misinterpretation based, uh, a sheriff wrote a draft saying with, you know, the FBI considers them to be extremists.
00:39:03.000But it's not like there's words you don't hear often Yeah, so it's understandable you pronounce them wrong like my dad keeps calling Mao Tse Tung Mayo Mayo But I understand you don't hear Mao in common parlance, but sheriff every fucking movie like sheriffs are everywhere dude Is he from Canada?
00:39:34.000I don't live in Canada, but I know what a mountie is, or a mountie.
00:39:38.000He does it again, by the way, but subtler, a little more subtle second time, because I'm wondering if he's thinking, maybe I should commit to my first pronunciation of it.
00:39:46.000Yeah, you kind of have to, yeah, I don't know what to do.
00:39:49.000If you say a whole other sentence after she riff,
00:39:52.000Or if you repeat it, you can't do it normal because then it's blatant?
00:40:54.000And again, I think, you know, Gavin's a different story, right?
00:40:56.000If you want to go after the individuals who are associating with that group versus the guy who goes on his show and says outrageous things and goes on Joe's show.
00:41:02.000But then you have Antifa branded cells.
00:41:04.000Like what I mean by that is they have specific names, they sell merchandise, and they're the ones showing up throwing mortar shells into crowds.
00:41:11.000They're the ones showing up with crowbars and bats and whacking people.
00:41:15.000I was in Boston, and there was a rally where conservatives were planning on putting on a rally.
00:41:19.000It was literally just, like, libertarians and conservatives.
00:42:18.000And if you're named Pinos, first date, take some Cialis, make sure, and clean it, clean as a whistle.
00:42:25.000Maybe even, here's a crazy thing I used to do, touch your finger into a thing of honey, and after your dick is insanely spotless, and it's gonna, something might go down within the next 10 minutes, just touch your head, and then roll your foreskin forward.
00:44:02.000Proud Boys are violent because they said fight back.
00:44:05.000At your Metropolitan speech, you know, we knew that they were coming.
00:44:09.000We didn't set up, like, a sale on balaclava and black clothes, like, for sale sign across the street to, like, try and, like, honeypot them in and, like, lure them in.
00:44:51.000They've had a flag since the Soviet, you know, Nazi Germany in the Soviet era, and they've brought it back.
00:44:55.000There are specific groups that I'm not going to mention by name that have specific names, and they sell merchandise.
00:45:00.000They've appeared in various news outlets.
00:45:02.000They've expressed their desire to use violence to suppress speech.
00:45:05.000Is it a centralized organization the same way that I I hear you on Proud Boys but like where they have like tenants that are written out and there's a leader and like We have tenants written out all clubs do and they don't we don't have a fucking leader like you're the one in charge of all this and you thought that the FBI designated them as a hate group and I
00:45:30.000You think there's a leader, and you think there's this centralized force.
00:45:34.000Now, I understand, you know, someone's aunt thinking that, but if you are 100% in charge of the group, like, couldn't she have called me and asked, hey, are you the leader of this group?
00:45:46.000Or couldn't she have contacted an actual Proud Boy?
00:45:48.000See, the difference between Joe, Jack, and Tim is that Tim goes to these things,
00:45:56.000And this is what Charles Murray predicted in his book, Coming Apart.
00:47:30.000You then get the rise of the based stick man, they called it.
00:47:32.000This guy shows up in armor with a stick, and he starts swinging back.
00:47:35.000And now you have two factions forming.
00:47:37.000So while I recognize it's much easier to ban a top-down group,
00:47:41.000There are, you know, the difference I guess is, when you look at the Proud Boys, it's straight, top-down, vertical.
00:47:46.000You look at Antifa, and there's different cells of varying size, and they're different accounts.
00:47:50.000So I'd have to, like, I guess the argument I could make is, if you're gonna ban the Proud Boys, by all means, under your justification, but if you look at a specific channel that's got 20,000 followers, that cheers them on, right?
00:48:02.000These are people who throw mortar shells into crowds.
00:48:04.000Isn't that advocating for, you know, terrorism, incitement to violence?
00:48:29.000It's not going to happen in a million years.
00:48:31.000There's no way they're going to have me back.
00:48:33.000But it's a good it's a good way to sort of just sort of grease the wheels and get things going and to look reasonable.
00:48:40.000Like I did this show on the CBC Canadian Broadcasting Corporation a million years ago and
00:48:47.000It was about capitalism and how we've commodified everything including you know Che Guevara and everything is capitalism capitalism and the free market has ruined everything and and they've marketed
00:49:01.000And I said, isn't it kind of weird that you're sitting here bashing capitalism as you sit on the taxpayer trough feeding and feeding from taxpayer dollars?
00:49:23.000And she just kind of bored me to death.
00:49:25.000What's obviously going on here is that there's two standards.
00:49:27.000There's one standard for people who are on the Trump side, and that is you may not fart on a Sunday.
00:49:31.000And then there's another side for people who are not on the Trump side, and that is
00:49:49.000You can beat the living shit out of people and call for violence and fuck kids and go to people's homes and throw bricks through their windows and we'll get over it as long as you don't help Trump get re-elected.
00:50:02.000And that's why social media is in so much trouble because everyone thinks they helped Trump get elected.
00:50:10.000Because they go, we controlled everything else, we controlled the TV and newspapers and everything, and he still won.
00:50:16.000So it must have been the one place where he was allowed to speak, and that was Twitter.
00:50:22.000I guess the question is, how come they don't get removed?
00:50:25.000Well, in the past when we've looked at Antifa, we ran into this decentralization issue, which is we weren't able to find the same type of information that we were able to find about Proud Boys, which was a centralized, leadership-based documentation of what they stand for.
00:50:40.000But absolutely, I mean, it's something that we'll continue to look into, and to the extent that they're using Twitter to organize any sort of offline violence, that's completely prohibited under our rules, and we would
00:50:50.000She's talking about how they were able to be centralized and see exactly what our rules are.
00:50:56.000Our rules, the ten things she's talking about, these tenets, she's indicating they say like, kick the shit out of Antifa, kick the shit... The tenets say, stop the drug war, venerate the housewife, glorify the entrepreneur, recognize the West is the best, promote free speech,
00:51:38.000He's not only that, he's disassociated himself with it and said that it completely got out of hand and he doesn't want to have anything to do with it.
00:52:26.000Yeah, and I think this is a great, again, test case for how we think about getting people back on the platform in the long term.
00:52:33.000Yeah, he's an interesting case, because he's really a provocateur, and he fancies himself sort of a punk rocker, and he likes stirring shit.
00:52:42.000I mean, when he came on my show last time he was on, he was dressed up like Michael Douglas in Falling Down.
00:54:02.000And they started this group that would have seminars and meetings so they could get all these names together.
00:54:06.000But what they ended up doing was fomenting, just like the SPLC, fomenting hate where there was none.
00:54:11.000And the next thing you know, thanks to government money,
00:54:15.000There's all these kids going, yeah, I'll try out this Nazi thing, and then we'd go to a show and there'd be five Nazis, like, I'm not talking about the Nazis that we see today, where they go, that guy's a mega-hat on, he's a Nazi.
00:54:24.000I'm talking about guys like Francois, who had, this is near Quebec, obviously.
00:54:30.000Klansman galloping into battle on his back.
00:54:32.000His whole back was Klansman, or wolf, with his rapier in his cane.
00:55:37.000They got in their school bus, they beat up all the Nazi skinheads in Toronto, they beat up all the Nazi skinheads in Ottawa, and they beat up all the Nazi skinheads in Montreal, and boom.
00:55:46.000We never saw a Nazi skinhead ever again.
00:55:49.000So I don't think Joe's exactly right about this thing where punching, fighting never solves anything.
00:55:56.000I think sometimes it does a pretty good job.
00:56:45.000So it was just his association with the Proud Boys?
00:56:48.000I don't recall, and I would have to go back and I don't want to misstate things, I don't recall whether those statements that you're referring to of Gavin's were on Twitter.
00:56:57.000There's another, you know, when it comes to the weaponization of rules against, like, Gavin isn't creating a compilation of things he's ever said out of context and then sending them around to get himself banned.
00:57:07.000Other people are doing that to him, activists who don't like him, and it's effective.
00:57:11.000In fact, I would actually like to point out, there's one particular user who has repeatedly made fake videos attacking one of your other high-profile conservatives, so much so that he's had to file police reports, harassment complaints, and it just doesn't stop.
00:57:24.000He's talking about Berger, and Berger tweeted this, and he goes, here's Tim Pool defaming me.
00:57:29.000All he's saying is that you doxed Jack Posobiec's wedding, you doxed the Night of Freedom, where a man was almost killed, how do you dox a public event?
00:57:38.000Well, Mike Cernovich has to keep the location secret until the 11th hour, and then he gives it out that day.
00:57:45.000And Vic was happy to publicize that so he almost got a man killed.
00:57:49.000And he's making videos where he subs in crying sounds implicating Mike is beating his daughter.
00:57:56.000Like the guy's facing criminal charges for this and now that's defaming him?
00:58:17.000You know, so I guess I'll ask this to this regard.
00:58:20.000If someone repeatedly makes videos of you out of context, fake audio, accusing you of doing things you've never done, at what point is that bannable?
00:58:28.000Yeah, again, if it's targeted harassment and we can establish it, it's just a really hard thing with us determining whether something is fake or not.
00:58:34.000Well, it's also when things are out of context, you still have video of the person saying that.
00:58:38.000I agree that it's out of context and it's disingenuous, but it's still the person saying it and you're making a compilation of some pre-existing audio or video.
00:58:49.000So I think in the instance of Gavin, like one of the things he said was like a call to violence, but he was talking about, uh, like it was in the context of talking about a dog and being scolded.
01:00:28.000So yeah, they put a picture of me, and this is a new article, and they're like, uh, he's half-Japanese, half-Puerto Rican, full-blooded Nazi.
01:00:36.000And then, if you scroll through, there's also, at the end of it, it's like, yes, Nazis are black, yes, Nazis are Mexican, and yes, now they're Japanese-Puerto Rican.
01:01:20.000Yeah, so it's hard to gauge the zeitgeist and especially when you're in the center of it, but I definitely feel like things are changing.
01:01:28.000I think that these cunts, these tepid cunts who got everyone kicked off social media are realizing that they just took all the flavor out of the food and now it's this big NPC
01:01:42.000Non-playable character mess where there's no fun and nothing interesting going on and they took down a bunch of innocent people while looking on the hunt for these bonafide Nazis and You know Don't call them cowards or hypocrites too.
01:04:58.000So I'm about 18 and I'm walking, you do a lot of walking in the suburbs in Canada and we're walking down some random highway road and we're bored.
01:05:08.000I guess I don't even know where the hell we're going.
01:05:10.000Maybe we heard about a party and you know there's no Uber or anything and a lot of times you don't get to borrow your parents car and the buses in the suburbs run about once every hour and a half so you do a lot of walking.
01:07:05.000And you ask yourself, when is it safe to come down?
01:07:10.000Now, if I was a jock who was almost murdered, I'd say, let's sit here all night, boys.
01:07:16.000I want to kill these guys who tried to kill us.
01:07:19.000In my old age, now that I have kids, I'd probably just say, let's take them into the police and arrest them for attempted murder.
01:07:24.000But back then, I would have just pounded them within an inch of their life and that would have been that.
01:07:28.000Which I kind of miss those days in a way, where we didn't have to call the cops or everything and men would just fight and shake hands and go home.
01:07:39.000Anyway, after maybe an hour, we think it's safe to come down.
01:07:45.000And so I start coming down and then I think, wait a minute, uh, I want to be able to scurry back up because I can fight guys who are coming up a tree.
01:13:37.000How many she-riffs do you got on that?
01:13:40.000Let me shake well, you don't have to give me 30 33 33 and what do they pay you?
01:13:46.000$3 each some of them opt to pay a little more that's fine So I get you know, and how is it different from you standing on the street with a hat?
01:13:53.000It's doing little songs because I can't play them Exclusive videos that I produce and that are pretty cool plugging you're begging I
01:14:04.000Okay, this guy that we made fun of his vocabulary earlier, he says, I do speak, his name's Philip, I do speak concisely and with verbosity, but this isn't, we're in a place on the map where the natives are on the edge of illiteracy.
01:14:18.000Okay, dude, you spelled verbosity wrong.
01:14:22.000And I know I'm a grammar Nazi, but this is right after you said that people are illiterate.
01:14:30.000I love when people do that, like that proud boy Nick Oakes, who said that an Australian guy goes, I'm currently at some fucking stupid SJW college where everyone's an idiot, and he spelled college collage.
01:14:52.000You said the ideal situation in marriage is for two people to be virgins when they get married, and then you said something like those types of people probably aren't listening to your podcast.
01:14:58.000I'm 22, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
01:15:51.000and all Western countries to support a transition of power to have actual free elections that are not a sham are to stop the narco government we have right now.
01:15:58.000A big amount of drugs pouring in the U.S.
01:16:34.000You know, it's funny, you hear these queer theorists talk about how children need the right to love, and a lot of these far, far left anarchists will talk about pedophilia and NAMBLA and free speech and how children are sexual beings.
01:16:46.000Okay, then why do they all need therapy after they're molested, if it's such a beautiful, natural thing?
01:18:37.000Also, you may have heard or said this earlier, but Ryan's laugh sounds exactly like that of a fat, retarded eight-year-old who has just seen a balloon rocking back and forward, clapping.
01:18:48.000With all that, though, he's a decent bloke and he works with what he was given, so fair play to him.
01:18:52.000That guy just gave himself away as British.
01:18:58.000This guy Lars wants to point out that no wanks is literally magic.
01:19:10.000You know, it's funny, we did the stats, the demographics on our show, and it's like 90% male, maybe 95, 5% female, but the letters are like 60% female.
01:19:55.000Um, hey Gavin, this is from Eric M. When you talk about your straight, aged, worn out asshole, I can't help but shake my head knowingly at my iPhone.
01:20:17.000And the only advice I can give is try to get all your morning diarrheas out before you leave the house and make sure they're all on your toilet that has a Biffy.
01:23:00.000No, I'm not saying you, I wouldn't, I'm just saying you shouldn't.
01:23:05.000No, look, if this is a bad example, because I'm married, but if I wasn't married, and I was just dating my wife, and Eva Mendes came up to me and said, can I just blow you please?
01:23:30.000Pat Dixon always says, like, the best thing a friend could do for you is fuck your wife, because then it exposes the fact that she would have done that.
01:23:36.000Yeah, we were talking, I won't name names, but Ryan and I were talking about a buddy of ours and how horrible it would be if his girlfriend of many years hit on us.
01:24:39.000Why do you pronounce words as if you're a British aristocrat?
01:24:41.000You say ugly America over the elite media class, yet you say and do things like an aristocrat.
01:24:46.000First, on your last podcast, you said the word tish-su, like tis-you, not tish-you.
01:24:53.000Also, you played dress-up as a 48 or 49 year old man, trying to look like a country boy or a redneck because you spend more time upstate New York.
01:25:00.000I feel terrible about what happened to you, and I donated a couple...
01:25:04.000Donated and got a couple of my other people to donate to defend Gavin calm But use that excuse to play dress up like a good old boy is lame My mom's family is from the country yada yada yada yada yada yada My country people are going to laugh at you not because your joke dress is funny, but because it's lame all the best The tissues thing that's fine.
01:25:25.000That's valid, but the dressing up no that's fashion
01:25:29.000Maybe these young millennials with their stupid fucking Carhartt pants on and their sweatshirts all the time, they don't understand what fashion is.
01:25:37.000Well, I like the Carhartt jacket that I got.
01:25:59.000I don't even know what dressing up means.
01:26:02.000Dressing up like a brony is fucking lame, or going to Comic Con is lame, but my myriad of fashion influence, I think it may seem gay to different generations, but where I'm from, I think it's just embracing fashion.
01:26:35.000You know, when I'm in England, English people are... Maybe it's because I'm British, but like when an old English couple comes to America on a vacation,
01:29:35.000Tomorrow at noon, I hope you don't mind if I step on your Patreon plugin and explain that tomorrow Rebel Media, Rebel's YouTube, is going to have a
01:29:51.000Super chat with my brother Miles McInnes.
01:29:54.000Miles is outraged that Twitter is considering bringing me back.