On this week's episode of Thick & Thin, the boys discuss a variety of topics, including the new Jill Abramson book, The Merchants of Truth, and the fact that some people don't like the mailbag. Also, we talk about music, drugs, and a lot of other things that don't really have anything to do with anything else. Also, a special guest joins us on the show to talk about a certain band and a certain woman who grew up in the 80s and early 90s and has a very bad taste in music. And, yes, it's a good thing she's a Puerto Rican woman from the late 80s, because she grew up with a dad who's a rock and roll rock god. And that's not even half as bad as you think it is, because he's also a bad rock god, which is much, much worse than you would expect from a woman in your 20s and 30s. And, you know what else? He doesn't even have a good taste in rock music, which means he's not a rock god at all. And he doesn't like Led Zeppelin, which makes him even worse than a rock rock god like you would think he would be. We'll talk about that and much more on this weeks episode of the podcast, which you should be listening to, because it's pretty good. . Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. Music by Skating in the Bathroom Breakdown, courtesy of PSOVYO Records. Thanks to our sponsor, Scentless Records, and thanks to my good friend Ryan. Thank you, Ryan. You're a good friend of mine and I'll see you soon! and I hope you enjoy this episode, Ryan and I can't wait to see you in the next one. Thank you so much, Ryan, for your support and support you, for all the support you're listening to the podcast. and all the love you're giving me money, I appreciate it. -- it means a lot. XOXO, Ryan & I really appreciate it, Ryan - Thank you for being a good day, bye, bye. -Jonah, Jonah and I love you. Jonah & I'm looking forward to seeing you, bye! -Eugene and I appreciate you, Sarah
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00:02:08.000And I realized that she kind of personifies the problem with the New York Times and Boomer reporting, which is they do novellas, they do historical novels.
00:02:20.000I think this started sometime in the 1700s, maybe the 1800s, where they said, hey, let's take history and make it fun.
00:02:43.000And she makes this person that and this person that and changes shit around and, you know, she makes BuzzFeed.
00:02:51.000They started in 06, but she makes this weird conflict in 2002 where there was the BuzzFeed people and the Vice people and they were different camps.
00:06:51.000She's just a dumb, rich, Upper West Side cow who's probably paid a bunch of loser interns to do the majority of the work for the book and didn't even check to see if they had plagiarized everything.
00:07:03.000And it's ironic that she's, you know, talking about the merchants of truth and defending the New York Times.
00:07:11.000Everything you need to know about the New York Times is in Bill McGowan's two books, Grey Lady Down and Coloring the News, which they refused to review, of course, because it betrayed them badly.
00:07:22.000Anyway, sorry, I'm doing a future podcast in this podcast.
00:07:25.000This one is all about the mail bag, which really is
00:07:31.000One of the least appealing things on a human.
00:09:59.000And that just looks like a weird fruit, like some exotic Kiwi that went bad, that was left in the edge of a beach for three weeks and it got saltwater pollution or something.
00:10:16.000Okay, well it looks like a shell with a bunch of weird thumbprints on it or something.
00:10:22.000That'd be funny if they don't use it because it's just too much work, but your bag print is actually much more accurate than your fingerprint.
00:10:31.000If you just dip, like you go to customs and they draw the curtain and you just like, they put some ice on it and then they dry it off to get it nice and cold.
00:10:38.000And then you dip your bag in the ink and you dip your bag on the large, large red square in front of you.
00:10:46.000And they're just like, yep, those lines match up.
00:11:25.000I saw some black dude on the corner by your house the other day.
00:11:28.000He's like, you know, regular dude, just like working class guy, Timberlands on, waiting for the bus.
00:11:34.000And he had one strap that goes over the shoulder, another strap that goes around the side, and then there's a little bag on the front that could maybe hold like a baseball hat and an iPhone.
00:12:23.000Their cortisone levels are shattered after 20 years on the job.
00:12:27.000You know what cops have to do after 20 years on the job?
00:12:30.000They'll be going into an apartment where a guy's about to kill his kids and he has a gun.
00:12:35.000And he's gonna execute them, and himself, and you, and they'll have to go, come on, me, get pumped, get pumped, because they're not scared.
00:12:50.000Meanwhile, you know, the rookie is pooping in his pants, which you should be, you know, because you want your eyeballs, all that stuff that adrenaline does, the fight or flight stuff, where your brain's moving faster and your eyes go like golf balls and they take more in, like you're on natural Adderall.
00:13:05.000That's the way you have to be to survive.
00:13:07.000But towards the end they're just like, I think he's gonna blow his head off if he tries to shoot his kids.
00:13:14.000And when you fight those guys, the secret to boxing is to be relaxed.
00:13:19.000And not only are they relaxed, but they sort of have this, you got a fucking problem?
00:13:24.000So when you punch a cop in the head, he just nails you.
00:13:27.000And it's not supposed to be that inspiring.
00:14:46.000He says, Gavin, I got the impression from your podcast that you don't realize how much damage sparring does to your brain.
00:14:53.000Joe Rogan talks about this all the time, and even though he has a mad obsession with martial arts, he doesn't spar at all because of how much long-term damage it does.
00:16:29.000Why are you talking to me like I know stuff?
00:16:31.000Even today at the gym, we're doing this thing where we're practicing deking out jabs, and I wanted to say to the guy, he doesn't go past my elbow enough, so he's not able to get me in the ribs.
00:17:12.000Do you think it has anything to do with, like, when cell phones and, like, smart TVs and DVD players came out, my parents are always asking me, like, how this shit works, so then they feel like they know shit now, and they're like, oh, I guess they're just complete retards, but really they just needed help with the tech.
00:18:06.000You know, a gay kid in the 70s shouldn't want to kill himself.
00:18:09.000In fact, I think at the Earl of March in Kanata there was this gay guy, David Ibbotson, now we're up to the 80s, and I believe he killed himself.
00:18:16.000He was definitely gay, but maybe that's why he killed himself.
00:19:08.000So I think we've given all these kids this a self-esteem problem, which is too much self-esteem They're too proud of themselves even my kids my own kids.
00:19:21.000They're like, I'm a savage boss at this I'm gonna be a savage boss and we'll sit down and play foosball and I'll destroy him and the whole time as I'm eating him alive on the scoreboard He's just like I'm gonna win.
00:20:15.000Then why are these boomer women so arrogant and telling you what to do and don't do this and don't let your kids play with plastic bags and all this other shit you already know?
00:20:28.000Has told all these women, these female teachers, that they're the boss of the world and they have to fight the patriarchy and they have to end guns and Trump is a Nazi and make sure your kids know all this.
00:20:38.000Make sure your kids know about gender and pronouns and all this stuff.
00:20:43.000The teachers unions have done this to teachers and then the teachers do that to all their female friends.
00:20:47.000So the unions have ruined boomer women.
00:20:51.000And then, professors have ruined young women.
00:20:55.000Anyway, feminism is just really... Feminism is to women what South Africa is to white farmers.
00:21:04.000All right, we're not exactly ripping through these, but that's one letter out of a thousand.
00:21:15.000Chris wants to know if we should have more censorship.
00:21:17.000Hey Gavin, I've been enjoying your podcast and listening to them on Spotify.
00:21:22.000I noticed recently the Spotify homepage lists your top podcasts, lists four or five podcasts that I've listened to before, but your podcast doesn't show up.
00:21:28.000And it's mostly what I listen to, he says.
00:21:31.000And I did hear that a lot around March 6th.
00:21:35.000I don't hear it anymore, but around that time I was getting several people telling me that Spotify was unsubscribing them.
00:23:13.000I mean, of course they trash your house and they transfer your bank account into their bank account and they burn your passport when you say you're going to visit your parents without them.
00:23:24.000But at least if you're a young man, I don't know.
00:28:33.000You can color it underneath after you separate it as just line art, and that can give you a more natural mistake where the things will peek out of the side of the lines.
00:28:42.000Or if you don't want to do that, use the paint bucket or something.
00:28:58.000It's not good to be innocent when you're 29.
00:29:01.000Well, when I need to be, I'm an adult, but when it comes to coloring, I mean, what better way is there to do it than with that of the eyes of a child?
00:30:15.000You and you just pound the makers down pound it down.
00:30:18.000Then you sit down in your chair and some a woman starts tapping on the shoulder and you think that's unusual my seatbelts on and you realize she's tapping you on the shoulder because the plane is empty and you're in LA sir.
00:30:31.000One time, Jay Johnson of Mr. Show fame, he took a Quaalude when he sat down, and closed his eyes for a second, and then he thought, okay, I'm gonna have a big super nap this whole plane ride.
00:30:48.000So he orders a beer, and the woman thinks, she was acting weird when he ordered the beer, and then he pops another Quaalude, so he's really gonna be out.
00:31:17.000And he would just drive for a little bit, pull over, vomit into a paper bag, then get back on the road, pull over, vomit into a paper bag.
00:31:26.000It's like my friend Brian was so shit-faced driving home that he passed out behind the wheel.
00:31:34.000And that wasn't a problem with anyone else in the car because they had already passed out.
00:31:38.000And the car went careening off the highway.
00:31:47.000through a field and then just And just sat there idling as everyone slept and then maybe two hours later he woke up in the field And just drove Back to the road and they all got home and didn't realize that the drive home was five hours and went to bed And then the next day
00:32:10.000His friend comes outside and goes, dude, someone vandalized your car last night.
00:32:16.000And they go outside and they see that their front of their car had been bashed in.
00:32:21.000And the strange part was the vandals left pieces of mud and grass in some of the cracks for some strange artistic reason.
00:32:30.000And then slowly, you know how God hands you Polaroids the night after a blackout, and you see like some chick's tits, and you see you laughing, and then you see you fighting a guy, and you see you getting kicked out, and you're like, whoa, wow, these Polaroids look fun.
00:36:53.000There's actually been tests where they take people in the south and people in the north and they walk them down this hallway where there'd be little holes in the walls of the hallway and people go, fuck you.
00:37:42.000And like looking in and putting their fingers in the hole and stuff, which could have been the whole Civil War.
00:37:47.000The entire Civil War might have been them going, we're thinking about, uh, well, I don't know what we're actually not thinking about anything.
00:37:56.000And then North goes, you can't have slaves anymore.
00:39:03.000Anyway, it's not a myth New York Times, but um After they were freed you had that you had the Irish rage on the guitar, which was a Celtic instrument, right?
00:39:13.000Oh, yeah, and then so yeah It wasn't just a guy playing a little folk song like for a pair of brown eyes For it was like da-da-da-da-da-da-da that fucker had me in the fields then he had me in his house cha-cha-cha-cha-cha And then you had the
00:45:53.000The Ramones were punk, yes, by accident.
00:45:56.000They were trying to do rockabilly and they tripped.
00:45:59.000But besides maybe Richard Hell and the Voidoids and the kid with the replaceable head, the New York punk scene went from art rock to new wave and had very little actual punk bands.
00:47:17.000Dear Gavin and Ryan, just FYI, Japan, Japan, not only didn't care about Jews, much less help kill them, individual, by the way, he's talking about a previous episode where we said, when Japan hooked up with the Nazis, how did they feel about the Jew thing?
00:47:32.000Individual Japanese and the Imperial Japanese government facilitated the protection of Jews in occupied Shanghai against German requests for deportation.
00:48:46.000Jews in their culture are by far one of the most minor ethnic religious groups in Japan, presently consisting only from 300 to 2,000 people, or about 0.0016%.
00:49:09.000When your margin of error is that high, and the second number is almost 10 times the first number, 7 times the first number, then you don't know the number.
00:49:21.000My net worth is anywhere between $10 and $10 billion, but I'm a very successful person.
00:49:28.000Anyway, he's got a bunch of links there, big fan of the show, blah blah blah.
00:49:33.000And finally, it would also be remiss for me not to mention...
00:49:39.000I would be remiss if I were not to mention, you should have said, that Ryan has his own contribution in the show.
00:49:43.000He's useful because he provides a nice real-time illustration of Millennials and their level of education.
00:50:57.000I got in a lot of trouble for using the word rice balls.
00:50:58.000Obviously no one's serious when they say rice balls, dumbasses.
00:51:03.000I gotta say, lefties, you really are making yourselves look like boring killjoys when you purposely ignore jokes and start screaming, he said rice balls, he said rice balls, like the guy was fucking serious.
00:51:16.000Can you even imagine a guy going, these fucking Rossballs coming in here?
00:52:19.000Mr. Green Beret out there, I had a shower yesterday at 8 p.m.
00:52:25.000I had underdressed during the day and I had a chill in my bones and I highly recommend if you have this to avoid getting sick, go have a hot shower and just get the blood circulating and just warm those bones again.
00:52:35.000I remember when we used to do commercials, we would freeze to death outside all day and you'd come home and it was like being in Britain.
00:52:43.000You just have this cold you couldn't shake.
00:53:22.000I had some nurse send me a letter saying, yeah, what's happening is your giant shits are ripping your asshole apart.
00:53:30.000Now that's, we got a lot going on there.
00:53:32.000We have a woman in the year 2019 where they know everything and also we have a nurse and nurses think they're better than everyone and they know everything.
00:53:41.000And they say dumb shit, like I heard a nurse on Howard Stern the other day go, yeah, circumcision doesn't hurt the baby because what we do is we give it sugar and sugar's like a painkiller.
00:53:51.000And then Howard Stern, God bless his cotton socks, with his non-foreskin, managed to say, well then why does a baby scream its fucking head off if it's so sedated by that sugar cube?
00:56:06.000Every time I hear that, I go back to that morning, and I see his face, and I see the fact that a junkie on heroin think- I hate this the most about junkies, besides the part where they die.
00:56:20.000I hate that they think we don't know they're on heroin.
00:56:24.000And they think we're just seeing a guy who likes his girlfriend's new sunglasses just fixing his Hello Kitty coffee maker while she goes to get butter.
00:56:56.000Because I've always said, your goal as a parent is for your kids to not know about sex, 9-11, race, and when I say race, I mean they don't know what a black person is.
00:57:09.000Like my, my middle son had a lot of black friends when we lived in Brooklyn and he goes, it's weird how all my friends have black skin.
00:57:17.000Like he didn't know what a black guy was.
00:57:18.000He just noticed his friends were darker.
00:57:22.000I don't want them to know that there's racism and there's not racism and there's black and there's, they just should think one friend has squinty eyes and the other friend is dark skin and very, very curly hair.
00:57:31.000Yeah, it's like when you eat pistachios and one of them, like, is a little, like, different.
00:57:36.000You're just like, alright, it's still a pistachio.
00:59:22.000I hereby predict future Christmases are going to become Roblox bucks or whatever they're called and coupons for Fortnite skins and no actual, you're gonna start seeing a lot of toy stores go under.
01:00:03.000Yeah, he's really good at mini golf, but he takes these epic suck attacks when he doesn't get a hole-in-one or a hole-in-three, and then starts whipping stuff, and it's not pretty.
01:00:14.000You know, my thing about Santa is, like, when they realize that you've been lying to them, even though it's a pleasant lie, they might not believe in Jesus anymore, so I'm gonna be careful with my Santa shit.
01:00:26.000I don't know what you're talking about, but okay.
01:00:27.000Here's one from a correctional officer.
01:00:29.000Hey, Gavin, love the show, blah, blah, blah.
01:00:31.000Mailbag is awesome, don't listen to the haters, blah, blah, blah.
01:00:33.000I wanted to say your correctional officer analogy with the kids is perfect.
01:01:21.000In a prison, the inmates call us names all day, every day, and we can't technically do anything about it due to the increasingly PC-ness of CO profession.
01:01:31.000We are basically underpaid babysitters who are guests in the prison with no real authority anymore.
01:01:37.000I talked to an old CO when I was visiting my parents in Florida, I mean retired, and he goes, yeah, I quit after you couldn't beat them up anymore.
01:01:45.000I mean, it's not a matter of just reckless violence.
01:01:48.000It was the only language they understood.
01:01:50.000And so someone would get fucking mouthy or get threatening and you'd beat them up.
01:04:43.000Or sir, in this case, you fucking male flight attendant.
01:04:46.000And I know I'm going to get mail going, actually, I'm a mail flight attendant, and we get to bang chicks all over the world, and it's really cool, and we get cheap flights, and we're kind of like the new rock stars of the sky, dude, yeah, we fucking, we fuck stewardesses, and we're really cool.
01:05:06.000And you have your hair done at a salon instead of a barber, which is our first indication that you are not part of the club called Real Men.
01:05:47.000They had a boiling pot in their stupid little mud hut and if you found a root or a goat eye or something you'd throw it in the pot.
01:05:54.000So they had a perpetual stew that was just bubbling away 24 hours a day and whenever you were hungry you'd take your wood ladle and slop it into a pot and eat whatever the fuck was there.
01:06:06.000There might have been a piece of meat in there that's 32 years old.
01:06:15.000Anuk is actually the Inuit word for rotten goateye.
01:06:19.000Um, so all of our food was boiled to death and we have weak stomachs.
01:06:25.000And then we come to North America where we're having the fricking chicken and spicy burritos with jalapenos on it and banana pepper pizza and all this crazy shit.
01:06:37.000And our Scottish stomachs just can't handle it.
01:09:01.000Every time I see someone's dating app, I just keep going, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, sure, we can work something out, sure, not more than once or twice, but yep, yep, oh yeah, oh sure, yes, yes, yes.
01:09:13.000They're very rarely, they all seem like fiving up.
01:10:06.000Further on in the conversation he admitted that he thought he might be addicted to Grindr and it got me thinking, should these apps be banned?
01:10:13.000I personally know of two guys who have caught HIV using Grindr and I've heard of cases where girls have been spiked, assaulted whilst on Tinder dates.
01:10:20.000There's also been a couple of Muslim raping gangs in my area using it to catfish and trick white girls into meeting them.
01:10:28.000I don't like the idea of governments doing it.
01:10:30.000Yeah, I'm never into banning anything, really.
01:10:32.000But you're right, they are sick and depraved things.
01:10:35.000Maybe because we don't have parents anymore and everyone's divorced, that they don't have a dad saying, don't go on those fucking things, Shirley.
01:10:43.000You know, there's a buddy of mine in D.C., his sister was telling me that there's a major problem with millennial women and anal stretching, distended anuses.
01:11:53.000Like the idea that some child is emailing a 48 year old man and saying, you know, I think you should know something.
01:12:01.000One of the reasons that there's gays in the church is that these big Italian families think, well, he's not, you're not interested in marrying women.
01:13:00.000When I say I sound like the guy from Police Academy who does the cool sounds with his voice, I'm clearly being sarcastic.
01:13:09.000I'm clearly making fun of myself for not being as good as that guy.
01:13:16.000I've made it clear many times I'm not good at magical sounds, I'm not good at imitations, and in this self-deprecating mode of humor, I joke that I'm the guy from Police Academy.
01:16:54.000Hey boys, I'm a medic from Houston where my 600-pound life is filmed and transported literally tons of bariatric patients, including some of the ones on that show.
01:17:03.000I've never heard the word bariatric before.
01:18:01.000Should I build a machine just for you?
01:18:05.000She starts crying, all of her fat is rolling around on my stretcher, and I'm standing there, like, thinking, Jesus Christ, we used to be hunters and warriors and shit.
01:18:35.000That's like saying, hey, when you're fist-fighting someone, try to sing the Star Spangled Banner backwards.
01:18:41.000Yeah, Gavin doesn't tell you how to treat your fatties.
01:18:44.000Yeah, don't try to tell me how to treat my fatties.
01:18:48.000So, bariatric is the world of medicine
01:18:54.000A bariatric patient is a patient who is I thought it was a hockey player.
01:18:59.000No, it's a it's a patient who's getting treated So it's it's a type of medicine and bariatric surgery is like a gastric bypass where they stitch your stomach to make it smaller It's not a it's not a hockey player who is known for hitting three goals in a row Go back to I'm not even gonna acknowledge that go back to that last email though.
01:19:21.000Oh yeah, that's another thing I wanted to bring up.
01:19:22.000I talked to a surgeon about this and he said, another big problem with these gigantic tubs of shit is we didn't go to medical school for that.
01:19:31.000We've slowly figured out that you need a laser to cut through the fat to get to the organs, but that's not in medical school, because those textbooks are 40 years old.
01:19:40.000This phenomenon has really become an epidemic in the past 15 years, 20 years.
01:19:48.000My dad broke his back in 17 places, which is a great story.
01:19:53.000He got drunk and decided he was going to chop a branch down, but one branch was in the way, so he tied it back with a rope.
01:19:59.000And so it was like a catapult waiting to go off.
01:20:01.000He ignored it, and then he's not dumb, so he protected himself with safety gear.
01:20:06.000His safety gear was three wool hats, like ski hats, like toques, like you wear.
01:20:12.000Three Okimo hats, and then a bunch of sweaters and a puffy vest.
01:20:20.000And as he was sawing off the branch with a chainsaw, not even a real chainsaw, a chainsaw with an electrical cord because he's too cheap to have a real chainsaw.
01:20:29.000So it's like basically a leaf trimmer and he's sawing away at this branch and then his catapult branch comes undone and just goes and whacks him.
01:25:07.000You'll figure something out, my friend.
01:25:08.000There's a bathroom, you can stay at her house.
01:25:11.000Now that I crammed you all into the bedroom, all four of you, you have this whole big living room to yourself.
01:25:16.000You know what we used to do in our first house?
01:25:18.000We put the couch on seven milk crates so it was six feet in the air and we would just watch TV with our feet dangling down on this giant couch.
01:26:44.000And then obviously, and I shouldn't even have to say this, if your friend's girlfriend hits on you in any way, you run from her bawling your eyes out because you feel so bad for your friend.
01:28:22.000I went to the third meeting, propelled in part by the thought that if she didn't, she would tell someone I'd be somewhere at the bottom of the ocean.
01:28:50.000Yeah, that's another good tip I've always said.
01:28:52.000If you want to break up with a chick, I don't know why this is so hard, guys just will put it off for months and months and treat her like shit.
01:28:56.000Well, she gives good head and fuck you.
01:29:29.000It's when rats' tails get so tangled together that they become a ball of rats.
01:29:34.000And they clog the shit pipes in the sewers.
01:29:39.000Some guy goes down there with his yellow gloves on and grabs a Rat King and pulls it out and then all the shit can pour out and he gets shit all over him.
01:29:59.000They're real men, hard workers, dirty jobs.
01:30:02.000So you can sit in a beautiful 70 degrees apartment where you're allowed to have a yogurt snack halfway through and you can watch your ex-girlfriend cry for six hours.
01:30:13.000And by the way, if you dump her on an answering machine or just be a pussy and don't call her like this guy did, who's worried about his mommy and daddy, you'll feel way worse for way longer.
01:30:25.000Explain to her that it's not gonna happen anymore.
01:30:27.000If she's a psycho, you could be in some trouble.
01:30:31.000She's gonna, like, call your friends and stuff.
01:30:36.000You also have to watch out for her lying and saying that she raped you or something.
01:30:41.000That's another terrible case scenario.
01:30:43.000But, um... Yeah, just sit down and be a man about it.
01:30:47.000Anyway, we met again at another event of the same nature later.
01:30:51.000Like, normally I'd let someone get away with event of the same nature, but when you said, I felt bad I had to lie to my mommy and daddy, I can't forgive same nature.
01:31:02.000She broke down asking why I didn't talk to her.
01:32:05.000That is barely taking a chip out of the letters.
01:32:08.000We're not going to have another mail... We'll do mail, individual small mailbags per show, but we're never going to have a mailbag episode, probably not for at least a week.
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01:33:30.000We are headed into a serious calamity here on this boat and we need to get away from these rocks and save free speech because it's getting worse every day and big tech is really enjoying our own demise.
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