The Slits and Heard It Through the Grapevine cover Marvin Gaye's classic, Let's See What Trump Thinks About It, by Marvyn Gaye and the Slits. Plus, Ashton Witty joins us on the show.
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00:02:11.000Yeah, so Johnny Rotten came out as a Trump supporter recently, and it sort of got me in this vortex of his wife and his daughter and the slits and Viv Albertine and Polly Steyrene and punk rock.
00:02:28.000And I want to get into that, but someone seems to have crept into the studio that was not invited.
00:09:20.000Except once when I was pregnant and all hormoned up, I felt very aroused and had a violent fantasy about being fucked by a pack of rabid wild dogs in the front garden.
00:09:37.000But you'll notice with punk and all of this, a lot of good art, it comes from suffering, and a lot of suffering comes from not having a dad.
00:09:45.000So Viv had no dad, Sid Vicious had no dad.
00:09:50.000Ari Up, the singer of The Slits, who we just saw, had no dad until Johnny Ronton stepped in.
00:09:56.000And the reason we're talking about all this is Johnny Ronton came out as a Trump supporter, and I started, I went down the deep dive on the background behind that.
00:10:07.000This fantasy didn't make me want to masturbate the wolves.
00:10:10.000I mean, I ran this narrow through my head a couple of times, wrote it down, never had a thought like it again.
00:10:16.000Honest, please let that old computer I wrote it on be smashed into a million pieces and not lying on its side in a landfill site somewhere, waiting to be dug up and analyzed sometime in the future like Lucy, the Australopithecus fossil.
00:12:10.000Although, Cindy Lopra has had a very romantic, long-term relationship with the guy who was in Time After Time and also had a successful acting career.
00:15:16.000And I just love that, I love that cops and soldiers and people braver than me are making like major risks.
00:15:24.000Viv Albertine talks about that in her book.
00:15:26.000She goes, people say I'm a failure because I've had all these catastrophes in my life and my divorce and all this stuff.
00:15:31.000And she goes, I just, I take a lot of risks.
00:15:34.000So yeah, if you want to list my failures, you're going to see a lot because I do a lot of stuff.
00:15:39.000Like a successful entrepreneur like Donald Trump, you analyze his past and you're going to see a ton of failures because that's what happens when you're out there moving and shaking.
00:15:51.000Liam Neeson just, his character just jumped off a fucking, jumped out a window.
00:17:50.000And, you know, The Sopranos was a movie about a bad guy.
00:17:55.000But if you have any sophistication whatsoever, you go, oh, this guy's a cocksucker who lets his friends freeze to death because he's banging his gumar.
00:21:23.000I used to know a guy, Tony Barber, the guy who dumped me, Tony Buzzcock, because I told him that I'd love to have him at the house, but he couldn't bring his rescue pit bulls because my son is five and right at their eye level.
00:23:50.000This is not Stalin at work here, but I swear the governments are beginning to feel that way.
00:23:58.000We have to hold ourselves responsible at some point in order for a society to exist at all.
00:24:04.000Already there are rumours flying around that there's an even stronger strain of this COVID or whatever you want to call it coming down the pipeline.
00:24:16.000So we might as well just close everything down and collapse.
00:24:23.000Live performance is almost as big a thing.
00:24:26.000Yeah, and what bothers me quite a lot, and I don't mean to sound selfish with this, because it directly affects everybody equally, is that I can't function.
00:24:37.000Live performance was the essence of Public Image Limited.
00:25:22.000Well, us working class are going to get up and do something about that at some point.
00:25:27.000Seems to me that what the Democrats here in America are promising will be tax hikes beyond belief, more lockdowns, more confusion, more bureaucracy, and less answers.
00:25:43.000You're thinking of voting Republican or not at all?
00:27:00.000No, I have a very serious viewpoint on that.
00:27:02.000And I could never consider putting my lovely wife in a home, at least not at this point, until it became absolutely like the only alternative.
00:27:14.000But now, looking at what's been going on and the way COVID patients have been pumped and channeled into the old folks' home, it's almost like those places have become death camps, not caring centers.
00:28:30.000It's deeply frustrating for her because she loves to talk, she loves to read, loves watching the news programs because you can read the ticker tapes across the bottom.
00:35:37.000Back in 79 when they were big, no one talked about her as a black punk vocalist.
00:35:43.000No one had any idea what her race was.
00:35:46.000They were just like, that's X-ray specs.
00:35:50.000And they just, now in retrospect, they talk about blacks and punk and how black polystyrene was and people of color and punk.
00:35:58.000Ugh, so sick of you fucking not only ruining 2020 with your racial identity to politics, but also going back in time and fucking everything up.
00:36:09.000And I watched the Gremlins and then Wayne's World on Airheads.
00:36:13.000And the black guy is the doctor in Gremlins.
00:38:05.000He goes, you talk shit with the best of them.
00:38:07.000He said, now I'm bragging about how black people like me.
00:38:11.000He said, this fucked motherfucker couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag, but if you heard his shit, you would think he could fight.
00:42:38.000Viv Albertine, when she would play shows in the 80s, early 80s, there was a big thing, the clash, I think they may have started this, Rock Against Racism.
00:43:56.000The government, every time you hear about Adam Waffen and the base and all these bona fide racist groups, go check to see who's drumming them up, who's getting them riled up, who's helping them plan attacks.
00:46:15.000I mean, we sort of see the same thing with the environmental movement where they take our money and they spend it on windmills and solar panels.
00:46:23.000And you go, that's never going to work.
00:48:33.000Oh, also, if anybody remembers the clip that we said it was a video drop that we're laughing about and it's something about that's gross or something.
00:51:00.000These were leftists, Trump-hating leftists.
00:51:04.000They were pro-2A, but they're also pro-A.
00:51:08.000And this was created by the fucking government.
00:51:14.000And now we have the government, we have big tech, sorry, hiding these stories about Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.
00:51:23.000It's hard when you talk to like, let's call them civilians now, because you're talking to civilians and you're like, no, Prowboys aren't racist.
00:51:31.000And no, Trump didn't say that all Mexicans are rapists.
00:51:34.000And they're just like, yeah, but I've seen it.
00:51:36.000And you're like, yeah, you've seen it in the landfill that is modern media.
00:54:23.000So when we hear that, right, when they say, be prepared to be in a right-wing blog, I think you're brainwashing my kids of all ages, my babies, my Johnny in pre-K, hated Trump, and my daughter in college.
00:54:40.000She's not in college yet, but she will be soon.
00:54:43.000And so we go, okay, well, let's see what they're saying.
00:55:21.000It's like that show that I watched that I showed you that the painkiller already, PKA, they were talking about, like they just got so many things wrong.
00:55:29.000Like even Dick Masterson, I think he got, he was grumpy at you at some point, right?
00:55:33.000He was talking smack, but he knows who you are.
00:56:09.000Yeah, so they say that the reason why you step down from Proud Boys was because at Charlottesville, I'm like, what the they could literally just ask you.
00:56:19.000Dick Masterson knows tons of Proud Boys.
00:57:43.000So number 40, they said we're going to look at their lessons and learn what they're saying and get in the way of their what they call education, what we call brainwashing.
00:59:34.000And I think one of the great things about Trump and why this election is so important is this is the first president to call bullshit on that.
00:59:41.000That's why they're calling us all racist.
00:59:43.000That's why they have Trump derangement syndrome.
00:59:46.000That's why they're burning down cities.
00:59:47.000That's why they're throwing bricks through windows.
00:59:49.000Not because they genuinely think we're the KKK, but because we said, yeah, that's all bullshit.
00:59:56.000And it's been their dogma since the 90s, since 95, I would say, when Larry Summers was fired as the president of Harvard.
01:00:05.000That was really the sort of, you know how for World War I, they shot that Hungarian dude with the big mustache in the horse and carriage.
01:00:13.000Our horse and carriage was Larry Summers being fired from Harvard as the president for saying, I don't know, maybe women like aren't naturally predisposed to fucking STEM.
01:00:25.000I think he was actually murdered by the band Duran Duran.
01:00:33.000And the fact that we question that dogma because it's their religion has made them go nuts, apoplectic Trump derangement syndrome.
01:00:42.000And that's why this election is so important because I bet that fucking article is some bullshit about howie.
01:00:51.000It's actually fired because he was late for work one too many times.
01:00:55.000And a great example of this is this picture I sent, which is of a tweet by Kate Louise Hughes, who wasted a ton of her father's money.
01:01:06.000Raise your hand if you went to school for six years, studying to become a diversity and inclusion trainer, graduate in the middle of a pandemic.
01:01:16.000Then found out Trump has signed an executive order banning diversity trainings, meaning you probably won't be able to find a job because if they hire you, they will get fined.
01:03:08.000How we promote hate and we're hurting people.
01:03:10.000I don't think they realize that our lives are in danger.
01:03:12.000Like when Tommy Robinson and I were going to go do a tour in Australia, they canceled it because someone would get hurt.
01:03:19.000The only person that was ever going to get hurt with Tommy and I going to Australia is Tommy and I. Similarly, while they portray us as, when I say us, most people on this fucking site, as these evil monsters that hurt people and are a threat to people, we are threatened on a minutely basis.
01:07:39.000And maybe if you call in, if Gavin's alright with it, we could do your spookiest FBI-friendly threat where you don't overtly say anything that'll get you in trouble, but something that'll put the fear of G into us, like the messages that we heard before.
01:09:30.000Yeah, aren't all their commercials like AARP, Help I Fallen, Can't Get Up?
01:09:33.000Well, I was actually talking to CRTV about this, and I said to them, giving them advice, even though they fired me, I go, John Miller's a major asset at your company.
01:09:43.000When I go to DC and I'm at like conservative events, he's there.
01:09:49.000And when I say events, I mean like the after party.
01:09:53.000If he's at the after party, he genuinely cares.
01:09:56.000You're not going to get Andrew Wilkow or Eric Bowling or any of these other people at an after party.
01:10:01.000They do their show and they think they're so special that they go home after.
01:10:06.000Eric obviously has a fucking dead kid to mourn.
01:10:11.000If you have a young person who's genuinely interested in these things and goes to the events, fucking hold on to him because they're not making any more Fleckas.
01:10:22.000They're not making any more Elijah riot.
01:10:26.000They're not making any more Bailey Informed with Elad.
01:10:30.000If these guys started today, they would be snuffed out.
01:10:33.000They're not making any more Tim Pools.
01:10:56.000And just so you know, if I were to arrest one of you Pride Boys or whatever you're calling, I would introduce you to one of my friends that's in my prison and Lil Bunny.
01:11:11.000And he would have field day with you if I patronized alone.
01:12:08.000I think they're a fucking awesome band.
01:12:10.000I should get them on the show, but maybe I'm at this point with interviews now where I want to just sit down with you for an hour and talk about your parents and what got you here and where you're going, or not at all.
01:12:26.000Like, tuning into a show to see literally a five-minute thing of, all right, you got some great songs, Hallowed.
01:15:03.000Ronnie, the limo driver, had a cockring, and it's called the Lamborghini of Cockrings, and it has all these features on it, like spikes and stuff.
01:15:12.000And then at one point, they're asking about all the things on it, and Howard Stern goes, does it have Bluetooth?
01:15:18.000And I was driving, I went, and then I went, holy shit, I just laughed at a Howard Stern joke.
01:19:17.000Well, that was conservatives back then.
01:19:20.000Now I'm fucking up here, or yeah, well, up here now, in Virginia, and I'm a fucking mailman, and I have a walking route.
01:19:28.000And goddammit, these fucking liberals, man, they, the bigotry, it's not bigotry, I don't know what to call it, but fuck, they just love thanking me for my service.
01:19:38.000How do they know you're a post office?
01:27:04.000So my theory is that they said something that could have been taken out of context for pro-Trump and they were just like, oh, fucking only black people care about this anyways.
01:27:17.000So what's your theory on what just happened?
01:27:22.000I think they said, I think Clips, Charlie Clips, the fat guy, well, they're both kind of fat, said like a black unemployment number that was like pro-Trump.
01:27:30.000And then they were just like, you're also right.
01:28:10.000Maybe that was where, like, I can't remember who was saying this, but they said, you know, that stupid shit where you come out and you say like something Spanish, oh, Puerto Vida or something.
01:29:46.000First of all, Gavin, thanks for red-killing my girlfriend and I. We're broke, bronx, natives.
01:29:54.000When I first found out about you, I saw that picture of you with the checkered yellow suit and I was like, oh, this guy looks pretty scary.
01:31:04.000I would try to find out if it was true or not, obviously.
01:31:07.000And these people don't do that, so they're not your friends.
01:31:10.000They're more concerned with their own reputation than yours.
01:31:12.000And the other thing, especially in New York City, it's pretty easy to find pals.
01:31:17.000Like, I was talking to my wife the other day, and I said, my parents have lost their friends in Florida because of Trump, and they're pro-Trump.
01:31:24.000And she said, I wish he was never born.
01:31:27.000And I was like, yeah, I'm sure there's lots of like moms in Scotland during Braveheart Days that wish he was never born because, you know, they saw the fires and they saw all these other problems.
01:31:40.000And they thought, I wish that we didn't have to have these wars.
01:31:44.000I wish we'd just fucking kiss the English's ass.
01:31:46.000So in any conflict, you're going to see people saying, you know, I'm out.
01:32:20.000So no matter how bad things get, yes, if you're gay, you're going to lose your whole crew and your bars.
01:32:27.000If you're black in New York, you're going to lose your whole crew and your bars.
01:32:30.000But as soon as you stray from that, it's really easy, you know, if you're not in a rural area, and rural areas are fine, by the way, with Trump, you're going to find a new scene.
01:35:39.000The lawyers, the justice system was really concerned about communists being ostracized for being communists and being kicked out of restaurants for being communists.
01:35:49.000So it is the only state in the Union that has this incredible, what's the word, legal precedent, background for people being kicked out of establishments for their political beliefs.
01:36:10.000And there was a case where a guy was wearing a Nazi pin and he went into a diner.
01:36:15.000I think this is like 1980 or something.
01:39:45.000Anyway, but I got a Fred Perry shirt, and apparently because of the Proud Boys, you can't get the whole double gold shoulder coupling thing, and there's like one white, one gold now because of that.
01:40:27.000I think, actually, what would be awesome is if the Proud Boys added Jesus into their group, and then they could be the PB and J. That's a good idea.
01:47:06.000You know, I remember seeing him in the 80s, and Nazi skinheads would come to their shows because they wanted to beat up minorities, but there just wasn't any.
01:49:14.000Also, in regards to the guy in the Howard Stern show, I found that most often when these secular Jews, like I went to public school and everything, so when they like to dig on other Jews,
01:49:30.000they think that it's going to give them some credit among non-Jews, but they don't get it that non-Jews aren't judgmental towards actually religious Jews or anything.
01:50:37.000Or like tricks like Jeff Rogan, Seth Rogan, who just used Jewish stereotype to make movies lampooning Jews while having no other real background to anything.
01:50:51.000Yeah, like let's quiz them on the Torah, these fucking people.
01:50:55.000And I was at my baseball tournament recently, and there was a Jewish woman who was like, I was talking about Nickelodeon, and I said it was weird.
01:51:48.000I don't like to always bring up the Holocaust, but the Jews in Germany were generally pretty secular and were really a part of the German society.
01:51:57.000In Poland and, you know, in Greece and everywhere else, the Jews were pretty, the Jews were much more religious and separate.
01:52:05.000And, you know, we all were, in the end, it was all one thing together.
01:54:00.000Oh, but on a more lighter note, you got to look up this video called Wecon the World.
01:54:06.000It was after, it was from like 10 years ago.
01:54:09.000And it was like after the Turkish, you know, where they sent the aid flotilla to Gaza, which was empty and didn't actually have any aid in it.
01:54:20.000And then when the Israelis went to go raid and look to see if they had weapons, they were beaten like half to death.
01:54:30.000So they made this parody video of the song We Are the World called We Con the World.
01:58:57.000See, I'm watching, I started the G-M-O-L, G-O-M-L, yeah, that's right.
01:59:04.000From the beginning, and right now you're talking about Harvey Weinstein a lot, so it just crossed my mind that he had done this documentary.
01:59:13.000And in the documentary, he, I think it was the premiere of his movie, and he was standing outside on the sidewalk in front of the building, and a car had jumped the curb.
01:59:25.000And he said that that was Harvey Weinstein that he'd hired somebody to kill him.
01:59:32.000Which I remember seeing that documentary and thinking, what a fucking dumb lunatic.
02:02:12.000Graham argued in court that it was the FBI's own informant involved with this group that was actively encouraging the others to engage in illegal activity.
02:02:22.000Now, again, these others were not fucking Proud Boys.