In this episode of the podcast, the boys discuss the origin story of Proud of Your Boy, the song that started it all, and what it means to be a "Proud Boy." They also talk about what it was like growing up in the 80s and early 90s in the "P Proud Boy" household.
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00:06:09.000Antifa are the ones that are savvy online, which is why Proud Boys keep getting doxxed and fired because they're not savvy with the internet.
00:06:20.000Like the Proud Boy site just got hacked.
00:06:22.000And I said to Enrique, how come they're always hacking us?
00:06:28.000Like these Proud Boys are Blue-collar dudes who put their faces all over computer, all over Facebook, because it's the only app they know, and then they get fired.
00:06:36.000And they're like, How did they find out?
00:09:49.000Remember what the anarcho-punk band Krass said.
00:09:53.000If you choose to stray from the path that you've been taught, don't expect help and don't get caught.
00:10:00.000They talk about cock a lot, I've noticed.
00:10:02.000I saw signs of Antifa that said, I only suck black dick.
00:10:08.000See, they assume that we're these horrible racists that shudder at the thought of those beautiful, fat, ugly, tattooed monsters being with black men.
00:12:16.000You know, sometimes they give you a little cheese sandwich, and the only thing you can do with it, because it's inedible, is fold it and put it under your coccus, your tailbone, to make sitting on that steel chair all night less painful.
00:12:29.000Getting no sleep makes your head huge and your ears pop out and you're living.
00:17:48.000Everyone at home has to watch us go through this process.
00:17:52.000I don't think you're improving it, and I'm not really nuts about you doing shit on the fly like this.
00:17:57.000Well, at Kumias, for instance, we have a little knob like a joystick because he's got the bigger tricaster, and this I have to literally click to resize things.
00:19:15.000Today's book is Seven Days in the Art World.
00:19:19.000Now, this is all about fine art and art collecting, and she really breaks it down.
00:19:23.000Sarah Thornton is her name, great writer.
00:19:26.000And she breaks, the whole book sort of breaks down a painting from the very beginning to, you know, well, it goes the auction, the crit, the critique, the fair, the prize, the magazine, the studio visit,
00:26:02.000And I remember when, even when Vice was Voice of Montreal and we went color, people were like, Oh man, I liked it when it was black and white.
00:26:11.000But it does seem a little star trekky.
00:26:13.000I think you said something like Adam Curry was the first guest on the old podcast, so they're doing that.
00:26:18.000Well, anyway, in this one, Joe Rogan's talking about being banned, and he says, He says that, sorry, I'm thinking of two things at once.
00:26:28.000He says, but the great thing with the internet is it's whatever you want it to be, and you can make your own thing.
00:26:33.000And he doesn't seem to understand, yeah, dude, but when I'm, Gavin is banned from Facebook, Twitter, everything, he's not part of the national conversation.
00:26:41.000People can still pay to see him if they'll show their credit card, but these places are not a small-town arcade.
00:27:12.000Well, my grandparents both lived in 98, my paternal grandparents.
00:27:17.000The reason why I brought up Gavin is that I think that I have had a couple podcasts with him, and people have had weird conversations with me about it.
00:27:26.000And this is one of the things that I've said.
00:27:28.000I was like, look, that guy's mostly fun.
00:27:31.000And like anybody that does wild shit, you can get lost in the woods.
00:27:36.000And if you get lost in the woods of race or whether or not people should be able to do drugs or whether or not people should get paid a minimum wage, that's a livable wage.
00:27:49.000Is he saying that I got lost in the woods and now I'm just like the race guy and I won't shut up about race?
00:27:55.000The newspaper won't shut up about race.
00:29:21.000You get lost in the woods of race or whether or not people should be able to do drugs or whether or not people should get paid a minimum wage.
00:29:39.000For whatever reason, when someone shifts one way or another and we conflict with those ideas, we never give anybody any room for just being a person.
00:29:49.000Most of the time, I've been around that guy.
00:32:25.000I find that fun little Rubik's Cube kind of puzzle.
00:32:27.000Of course, with you, you won't take the most basic of advice like go make sure you don't have fucking Lyme disease or maybe don't try to kill a fly like this.
00:32:38.000He's so stupid that he doesn't roll up the fly thing.
00:32:42.000We have flies in the studio, we didn't take out the garbage all week.
00:32:45.000This is how you kill a fly, but when you go like this, you're pushing the air, so the air just pushes it out of the way.
00:32:51.000He's been chasing a fly around with a where's the book?
00:32:55.000Oh, it's a little um throw it over here.
00:34:01.000You want to have two separate parties and you want the Brooklyn friends to sleep over here, but mom says that she doesn't know them well enough.
00:34:08.000And then you're thinking they don't mix.
00:34:10.000So you're trying to choose between both and you're not sure.
00:34:12.000What if I only have a Brooklyn party, but then the girls aren't allowed to sleep over and now I don't have a sleepover?
00:34:18.000And she goes, I don't want to talk about it.
00:35:06.000Speaking of kids, so I've been thinking about this, and I was talking to that doctor right at that think tank thing when I was the court jester.
00:35:13.000And he basically made it very clear that this is a phenomenally unusual disease in that it's so fucking contagious.
00:35:21.000Nothing like this has ever been so contagious.
00:36:02.000So the problem with it is it gets everyone in all of the world and it only kills olds and fats, but it means that all these olds and fats are dying like fucking crazy.
00:36:10.000So it really should be called the Olds and Fats Disease.
00:38:36.000They're going on staggered schedules because they're petrified of getting your fat ass sick.
00:38:42.000So while you sat there eating Haagen-Doss all summer because you get two months off and having Netflix benders with fucking fried chicken buckets all around the side of the couch, because of that, my kids are fucked out of an education where we're spending the highest taxes in the world.
00:38:59.000And you get two months off to get fatter so we can worry more about getting you sick?
00:40:37.000So he bonks someone's helmet with his pole, and then the other guy gets tackled, and I think he gets temporarily knocked out when he hits the ground, just like I did with jail.
00:45:38.000So now she's saying, Oh, no, no, no, I would never say anything like that.
00:45:42.000And she's sarcastically saying she loves the fucking proud boys and they've saved her life about twice.
00:45:47.000And I was just thinking, Ron Hart, Max's defense lawyer in that trial, he should have brought Anne, who would talk about how they've protected her from violent Antifa many times.
00:45:58.000And maybe the girls, the blondes in the jury would identify with her.
00:52:05.000Anybody that supports segregated safe spaces in our colleges is an un-American, bigoted, racist people.
00:52:12.000Now, I would be mad if someone's yelling at me when I'm eating my lunch, but what's the matter with the fact that White Lives Matter is controversial should tell you everything you need to know about 2020.
00:58:04.000I would never understand why a straight black man would push an organization that says they want to dismantle the black family when 67% of children are born to single-parent homes.
00:58:37.000For black people to recognize that white lives matter, they had better be armed.
00:58:41.000Hey, that chick looks like that meme where she's wearing that red dress and it says you're all racist on the eraser board, and then it has her PayPal below it.
01:01:10.000I personally believe that the BLM movement is fake.
01:01:13.000It has nothing to do with advancing the lives of black people.
01:01:16.000You say they want to break up the family homes.
01:01:19.000Like their main goal is to break up the patriarchal nuclear family.
01:01:23.000They want the men removed out of the family, which is what Democrats want also.
01:01:27.000If BLM really cared about black lives, why would it be solely isolated to incidents where a black life is taken at the hands of a white cop?
01:06:39.000Every time I go through the hood late at night, South Bronx, Harlem, New York City, I see little fucking kids, black kids, all over the place.
01:09:47.000The joke was my son, when he was five, we'd watch nature documentaries, and he thought that the animals in it were actors.
01:09:57.000So like when you see an elephant, it's a professional acting elephant who's in a movie because actors are in movies, so this must be an actor.
01:10:04.000And then we were watching this thing on Capuchin monkeys.
01:10:06.000We had seen two, and he thought he was recognizing one from the other documentary.
01:10:10.000And he goes, oh, that's my favorite monkey actress.
01:10:13.000And so around the same time, Jada Pinkett Smith did this big thing about how Oscar's so white.
01:10:19.000And I was joking around that pretending that America is as racist as she thinks, and it's not.
01:11:54.000But we looked into this when it first happened.
01:11:57.000About 14% of Oscars are awarded to blacks, and that's what they represent in the population.
01:12:03.000In fact, I'm kind of suspicious of that because it's very rare that someone's talent is exactly the same as their representation in the population.
01:12:14.000Short, fat Chinese guys are probably 2% of the population.
01:12:22.000So it's something, it should get your, it should prick up your ears when someone is in the pizza pie of a field exactly as they are in the population.
01:13:14.000I've never seen something so accurate, which implies that they're getting more Oscars than they should.
01:13:20.000I think if you want to get Oscars up, why don't you talk to some of these moms and sisters who let their kids out at 3 a.m. and then start overacting when they're shot?
01:17:11.000days ago how trump's view of the military seems to echo sunny corleon god keep going there's more and then here he is talking to about his interview with obama sense of where he thinks the u.s is headed china represents a threat and an opportunity in his mind i mean this goes to his general predisposition toward dealing more with asia and less with with the middle east this is the
01:17:41.000pivot to to asia but he clearly hasn't been able to pivot as much as he would have liked no well this is the point you know once i i i mean i turned to him once and i mean because i i like movies as much as he does um i turned to him once were you guys on a road trip like thelma and louise it wasn't during an interview where were you just playing golf no no no i he stays at my house we're roommates and we both love movies like what a what a queer thing to say this is what i hated about obama's presidency is not so much Obama,
01:18:11.000but the sycophants who kissed his ass and pretended they were friends.
01:19:28.000Okay, this is a fun little video put together by the Lincoln Project.
01:19:32.000The Lincoln Project is a bunch of tiresome never-Trumpers, including that unemployed egg face, Rick Wilson, and Kellyanne Conway's grumpy husband.
01:19:43.000And what they do is they just shit on Trump and they get money from the left because, ooh, even Republicans hate him.
01:21:09.000Now, you can't really cite David for these pictures because the Lincoln Project added to this.
01:21:14.000So we don't know what David's example of blatant racism would be.
01:21:18.000I'm sure it's fucking bullshit because he's not racist.
01:21:22.000But this picture is a full-page ad that he took out in the New York Times.
01:21:28.000Because it has writing around the side of it, it must be an article about this picture.
01:21:32.000But this was a full page in the Times about the Central Park V. Or as MSNBC calls them, the exonerated five.
01:21:40.000Yes, they were exonerated by bullshit evidence.
01:21:44.000There is a mountain of evidence against the Central Park Five.
01:21:48.000The best they could do on their own before any of this bullshit, before Netflix did a series where they had them in sweater vests carrying their little clarinet boxes, was, he didn't rape her.
01:21:58.000He just held her legs down while the other guys raped her.
01:22:14.000They framed themselves, those fuckers.
01:22:17.000They said things like, I just took her Walkman and touched her tits a little bit.
01:22:20.000This woman who's still suffering from brain damage from that, what was that, 35 years ago?
01:22:28.000She still has trouble from the beating that was so severe they thought she was dead.
01:22:31.000We've talked about this a million times.
01:22:33.000And Coulter's written about it extensively.
01:22:35.000It is very clear that they were guilty.
01:22:36.000If you don't think they're guilty, you have not looked into it.
01:22:39.000Even the tapes where you see this so-called interrogation, it's clear that they are guilty.
01:22:45.000And as you sit here and call it racist to criticize the Central Park V, I want you to remember the woman who does seminars now for neurologists to talk about brain damage.
01:22:58.000I want you to think about her the next time you say it's racist to criticize gang rape, which is what this is saying.
01:23:52.000Sex was, it was ironically very sex positive.
01:23:56.000The nerds, when they do sex positive, it's like polyamorous and five ugly dudes with one fat chick, and then she gets pregnant and the other guy kills the baby and just like depraved sexuality is the sexuality.
01:24:09.000Back in the 80s, and when Trump says make America great again, he means the 80s.
01:28:08.000I noticed this, by the way, just pause.
01:28:11.000I said once, when I was in Israel, we were at the Holocaust Museum, and the guide said, he's showing us all the shoes and the books of the dead Jews.
01:28:20.000And he goes, and there are people out there who deny that this ever happened.
01:28:24.000And it bothered me that he didn't know the argument of the Holocaust deniers.
01:28:28.000And their argument, which I don't advocate, their argument is, no, they were not gassed.
01:29:54.000So people don't like him being with the elites.
01:29:57.000But anyway, so that's a separate thing.
01:29:59.000So here he is with the elites, and he's posing in photographs.
01:30:02.000One of, I would probably conservatively say, one of a million photographs of him.
01:30:08.000Now, the truth is about Gelaine Maxwell and Epstein is that he didn't want Epstein at Mar-a-Lago.
01:30:16.000Epstein had done something really gross and weird, like grab a masseuse's ass, and not in a cool way where she was into it, but in a bad way.
01:30:25.000Not in a they let them, but in a they don't let them concept, right?
01:30:28.000Which apparently David is very, he hates blatant sexism.
01:30:33.000So he should have been real mad when he discovered that Epstein was molesting the masseuse at Mar-a-Lago.
01:30:39.000Donald Trump found out, booted Epstein.
01:30:43.000And when Epstein came up later, Trump clearly was excited that Epstein was getting in the news because he said, oh, Clinton is, there's going to be some problems there.
01:32:02.000When you're in a situation like that and you're really tall and the guy's short and you're a winner and the guy's kind of a loser, you want to sort of break the ice.
01:32:10.000So instead of saying, hello, Billy, let's get this interview going, you want to break it down and show that you're a dude.
01:33:53.000That's different from grabbing a woman's pussy.
01:33:56.000And this silly little quip to break the ice became legislation in the less mind where Trump was telling everyone to grab every single girl's pussy from birth to death.
01:34:08.000Like at the march, you saw six-year-old girls.
01:35:15.000Manhattan has not changed since the gangs in New York.
01:35:17.000It's constantly ratzo-rizzo, wheeling and dealing, lying.
01:35:21.000In fact, when you buy something, when you do a deal for 10 bucks in Manhattan, you know in your mind that it's going to be more like 11 or 12.
01:36:18.000The story of New York is Jacob Javits, airports, all these other places where they have mafia guys sit there and do fuck all.
01:36:25.000So the only way to almost get a fair deal is to appear to fuck over your employers.
01:36:31.000Now, this Trump University thing, I don't think David's alluding to that, but that's another piece of intense retardation that I'll just put on the Lincoln Project.
01:41:11.000So most of these are horseshit, but I can't refute them when they're just fuzzy gray lines.
01:41:16.000But the big picture is what this pathological lying is, it's mostly just New York bullshitting and it's never a valid bona fide falsity like Obama does when he pretends that Benghazi was about a video.
01:43:09.000However, Ann Coulter, who I keep mentioning in this because she's my favorite Trump critic from the right, was furious about Ivanka and didn't want to see Donald Trump anywhere.
01:43:29.000Yeah, so the one time you have a valid criticism, it's one of your 1.5 so far, is something that the not lefts have been saying for a long time.
01:44:10.000Nepalism and the people who are in the Nazis and supporting pedophiles and proudly bragging about being a sexual predator and openly cheating your employees and mocking the disabled and praising murderous dictators and the constant pathological lungs.
01:48:11.000So what he's talking about there, I think, is back when Trump was a developer, he would avoid paying like $400 million in tax and $200 million there and declare bankruptcy and stuff.
01:48:21.000That's how you do business in New York.
01:48:23.000You declare bankruptcy if everyone's declaring bankruptcy.
01:48:26.000If that's what's going on, you follow the pattern to make the money.
01:48:45.000But I think a lot of these elitists, and it's strange calling David an elitist because he grew up poor, but he certainly is acting like one now.
01:48:54.000They don't really get that when you say someone avoided tax dollars, we think it's cool.
01:49:00.000Like black rappers and black actors seem to always be going to jail for it because they're not good at it.
01:49:06.000But when we hear about that, we don't go, that dick Wesley Snipes didn't pay his tax.
01:49:12.000So it's used as an insult and it's meant to appeal to voters as an insult.
01:49:18.000But when voters hear that you got away with not paying the government $400 million, they think that's great because they know what happens, money.
01:49:25.000Remember, we lost a pallet of, I think, something like $3 billion in cash in Iraq.
01:49:30.000Money going to the government doesn't go to a road.
01:49:33.000It doesn't become a pencil for a poor kid in East Harlem school.
01:49:38.000It becomes some fucking rich asshole's salary.
01:49:42.000We don't want any money going to the government.
01:49:44.000So ripping them off and taking away our tax dollars, good work.
01:50:53.000And he was talking about the illegals who come across the border, not Mexicans in general.
01:50:58.000And Vincente Fox, when he was president, he made it very clear that they don't have room in their prisons.
01:51:03.000The Mexican prisons are unfathomably bad.
01:51:06.000In fact, the guy we had, what's his name, Da Cenquenta, the detective who was chasing a man for 50 years, that guy went to jail in Mexico and he put up his hands and said, hi, I shot a cop in the States.
01:51:17.000I should probably be extradited to an American prison.
01:51:25.000So Vincente Fox said, let's, instead of dealing with these criminals, let's just export them, send them over the border.
01:51:31.000They were handing out little cartoons, little comic books, because illegal immigrants tend to be stupid, saying, here's how much water you can take, and here's where you get a coyote.
01:51:41.000Coyote is the guy who takes them across, of course.
01:51:58.000And rape is so prevalent with the illegals when you're going across the border that women take birth control pills on their way.
01:52:06.000In fact, they don't even really see it as rape because it's part of the culture.
01:52:10.000And to go a little farther, rape in Mexico is kind of different.
01:52:14.000George Lopez has this bit about how in America you can rape your wife, but in Mexico, your wife has a headache and you just roll over on her side and go, sucks to be you.
01:52:23.000And as he says that, the whole audience is screaming, laughing, clapping, because that's how we do.
01:53:58.000So to accuse Trump of hating the Bill of Rights, you guys, I don't even think, I think David should consult the other lefties and so should the Lincoln Project and say, where are we on the Bill of Rights?
01:54:54.000They realized they went down the wrong hole with that.
01:54:58.000By the way, lefties, careful when you go too close to the Russia thing because you're going to get into collusion, you're going to get into spying, and you're going to discover that Obama was spying on Trump.
01:55:26.000What's really going on here is we had a strange cultural shift in the 80s where we gave nerds like David attention.
01:55:35.000And I was one of the, I guess I was both a nerd and a jock at the same time because as a punk rocker, you're an outcast and jocks don't like you.
01:55:42.000But as someone who's fighting Nazi skinheads every weekend, you kind of have some balls.
01:55:49.000Anyway, being in that world, I learned to like nerds.
01:55:52.000They were cool and weird and funny and they were smart and they could solve problems and they were like nerds, like Revenge of the Nerds, Square Pegs, all of that stuff.
01:56:01.000So up until the early 90s, Indie Rock, Weezer, I'm a nerd, just like Buddy Holly.
01:56:09.000We're all nerds and we're really groovy guys.
01:56:47.000We need a writers' union so we can bore everyone to death with articles about Drag Queen Story Hour.
01:56:54.000And then we realized you guys are way bigger assholes than these so-called bully jocks from Cobra Kai that we were dealing with in the 80s.
01:57:02.000So Trump came along and said, all right, nerds, you're getting out of control.
01:58:11.000But even before I knew that, I could tell in the whole like, I cancel myself thing, it's more me, me, me, me, me.
01:58:17.000There's another great book, I'll make book of the day called The Advocate about this mass murderer in Switzerland who kept, he wanted to be, work for the United Nations and he, he got, he couldn't make it in law school.
01:58:31.000So he just kept going and lied and all his friends thought he was going to class, but he wasn't registered.
01:58:37.000And he went to graduation, threw his thing in there, and then he kept borrowing money from friends and saying he was brilliant in the stock market, but he would go to the United Nations and just eat a sandwich in his car and drive back home.
01:59:29.000Now it's so brave that she, what did that guy, that serial rapist, the corrections officer, Reuben Elon, he came, he called it extreme ownership.
01:59:40.000And all the housewives go, it's so brave of you to own the fact that you used to rape a lot of prisoners.
02:00:18.000I saw this interesting thing when we looked up Richard Prince.
02:00:22.000One of his things was just printing Instagram pictures, but he says, I had, this is Richard Prince talking, I had limited technical skills.
02:00:36.000Prince's lack of skill didn't stop him from picking apart the Marlboro, Marlboro, I can't say that word, Marlborough man, aka the Pinnacle of American Masculinity, prompting everyone around to pause their internal question, what is art?
02:04:41.000I jump in front of them and go, you're welcome.
02:04:44.000I have seen a handicapped child with cerebral palsy or something who can't really walk stand up at the age of like five and take his first stiff, stunted steps towards his father who he hasn't seen in a year.
02:07:37.000I couldn't find a YouTube clip of it, but at one point, Matthew McConney's character tells his daughter to engage the world and figure out the how and why of things.
02:07:46.000The dude quoted his own movie to sound smart in an interview.
02:07:50.000It just goes to show they have no personality outside of the characters they play.
02:08:02.000Yeah, Ezra Levance said that a long time ago.
02:08:05.000He goes, the problem with these actors is they're given these incredible speeches by really talented writers who worked on them for months.
02:08:14.000And they finally made this great song, right?
02:10:01.000Begging for acknowledgement or even asking diminishes dignity and diminishes power and we are a dignified loser hashtag OscarSoWhite is once again trending,
02:10:21.000helped by this video, which has been viewed over 8 million times.
02:10:26.000Actress Jada Pinkett Smith has announced via Facebook boycotting the Academy next month.