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- June 12, 2023
Cat Woman HATES ANDREW TATE for THIS!
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Length
9 minutes
Words per Minute
227.20854
Word Count
2,199
Sentence Count
1
Hate Speech Sentences
13
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when's the difference between good business and manipulation because let's say you work in a nine
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to five job and your managers suggest if you don't do a task properly you're going to be in trouble
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so would you agree that's some form of mental abuse or does that not make the the sort of
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because that causes a lot of stress that can put someone in a certain way but as soon as we um
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come away from the work aspect and it comes a bit more personal why do the why do things change in
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that respect i think everyone has a motive like you can kind of throw it with the work example you
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just had if you're working a nine to five and if you haven't done your work which is like in your
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contract and there's naturally there's going to be backlash because you're being paid to work if
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you're taking that same stance for being at home for example and it's like your husband or wife said
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oh if i come home and the washing up isn't done then there's going to be consequences but it's the
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same concept i'm saying your manager's saying to you before you even started the task if you don't
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do this you could possibly be fired so is that not a form of abuse i think i think i think we
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obviously again this is the lovely thing about having these debates because there's different
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definitions right for me personally i think if it's at the detriment to someone's human dignity yeah
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yeah that's abuse so dignity as in like then what is your is your well-being or earning money on the
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day so i definitely define that as abuse anyone at work that will tell me something's going to happen
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to me before i've even done it but then we we make it a lot more different when it comes to
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relationships and i'm not saying that that's what you ladies are fighting for but i just find it
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interesting that's what we do as humans yeah i think humans are super complex this is why it's a great
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thing to discuss emotional abuse and involves attempts to frighten control or isolate you that's
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what they says online it's cool so about that definition everything everyone's kind of said
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does fit into it i wouldn't say lying that would really fit into it i mean but i mean what's the
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line what's the ends yeah well i think then and this is why your point about intention comes up
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you know intention what do you mean so tam was making a point about kind of like motivation and
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intention behind stuff so i guess is the lie to exert a sense of control yeah power i think i think
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intentions is stupid because you're never going to know someone's intentions so you can't you can't
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mind read you can't mind read someone's intentions right i think sometimes some people don't even know
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what their intent is yeah but i would even i would argue with you i'd say uh intention does matter
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like to say who cares is is not it's not fair because even like in the law intention matters
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like if you slip and fall and someone dies as a result you didn't intend to do that you don't go
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to jail in the same way that if you plan that so i think intention matters figuring that out is a
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different thing but it's hard it's i wouldn't agree with you to say it doesn't matter who cares
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yeah i guess because for example let's say you're walking and say you're at carnival um someone throws a
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bottle at you at one of us it hits your head and then you're oh my gosh i'm i'm hurt right now and
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they say oh there's no intention there it was an accident it doesn't matter i guess does it matter
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how do you feel at that i guess you're right in the eyes of the law but like i just think the results
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matter yeah like i don't really give a shit like okay if somebody hit me with their car on accident
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or on purpose i don't give a shit i got hit by a car yeah because that comes the same so and you're in
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the eyes of the law sure but just personally i'm like i don't really give a shit yeah yeah you hit
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the nail on the head there you hit the nail on the head because the outcome is the same which is pain
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no no but let's let's try this i like what you said because so you know let's use that with the
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andrew tape situation like if he's intentionally trying to like mentally or whatever abuse someone
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we can say he's an asshole but if he's just like walking home and saying like hey like i have this car
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this whatever and someone's you know persuaded in a certain way and that might be abuse or whatever i mean
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he's not an asshole in that sense i would just disagree that he mentally abused anyone he allowed
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those women to be millionaires i mean i'm not i'm not even yeah i'm so curious because this is why
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this is such a great conversation you seem to be like quite a proponent of some of his viewpoints
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what is it that you like about the things that he's saying um i think that he i think a lot of the
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stuff he says makes sense like for example he talks about how men and women are different and they
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have different roles i think a lot of times in society we have women that want to be men and men that
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want to be women and i think it leads to people being unhappy in the long term and it's a lot of
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bad advice um and he just says that men are different and women are different um i think he
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says a lot of things that are true they're uncomfortable like old women are less desirable
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women that have slept around are less desirable but it's true no dude wants a girl that's been ran
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through by the whole football team they just don't in general um i mean there's exceptions but i think
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like he's at least honest okay um and i'll second that he's merely stating things that most of society
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thinks behind closed doors so and to then point your finger at him and be like you shouldn't be
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saying that i think is very hypocritical because there's a lot of influencers there stating their
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views i think there's a there's a young lady that's being compared does anyone know her name i think
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she's latina descent and she's really big on tiktok and she's making statements about men left right
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and center and no no banning of any sorts been going on but i think yes he's he's extreme in how
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he says it but this is what people think but you know sometimes it's an like goes back to the saying
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it's not about what you say it's how you say it and sometimes when your delivery is very
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straightforward very aggressive very you know straight to the point sometimes it comes across
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quite aggressive and people will just be like oh just write you off straight away whereas if your
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delivery was a bit different i wonder if andrew tate's delivery was different if people would
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if he wouldn't wouldn't have been banned on social media and if he would have taken him differently
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i think that's a woman's point of view i think that's a woman's point of view though because men
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communicate differently than women yeah and again it goes back to like women trying to make men
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women but they're not they're men yeah and then communicate differently than women they're more
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direct they're more honest typically i mean like how many times like i mean i've had so many
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girls on the show tell me that lizzo is like above a five which is just like crazy it's lizzo
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but every i think everyone's scale is different at the end of the day what your five is someone else
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yeah someone else yeah i mean i think i think objectively like if you're 300 pounds you're below
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a five that's your opinion though that's your opinion i mean it's that's your opinion but it's based
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off of reality which women don't like to live in because even this is like not reality and you know
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it on some level because you know if you walk into a bar with lizzo you guys are all going to get more
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attention than lizzo like not necessarily like if you're looking for exceptions it's not the rule
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like you could take you could take you could take dating app data where we like let's like put your
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profile in lizzo's profile who's going to get more attention it's going to be you we could go to
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a modeling con a modeling agency and say who are they going to sign you or lizzo in general unless you do
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that victoria's secret type like you know the new the new body positivity type shit i know again
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again exceptions but whenever you go anywhere where there's like an objective standard of beauty where
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like people are fine this the most attractive in general your you guys are all prettier than lizzo
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and that's not that's my question is and i think yeah you make some again interesting points around like
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it's really helpful to see that like i i don't know if you guys always see like the stats that come out
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from certain dating apps don't know if i'm allowed to say certain names but they they produce these stuff
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right like who comes out as the most desirable woman my question would be and modeling agencies
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and modeling agencies yeah um by whose beauty standards i was just gonna say that i mean i
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would say like collectively society as a whole so if you survey if you survey if you survey men and
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women as well and you if you survey men and women as a whole in general in most societies
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they put in london and they put in most and most societies throughout the world everywhere i guarantee
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like just like just based that way let me let me finish in most societies throughout the world
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everywhere if we put a picture of you guys and a picture of lizzo if you ask most guys and most
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girls they would find you more attractive in west africa and except yeah they always this is what
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this is what girls do like so i've been doing this a couple months not you personally but like
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like this is what they'll do they'll bring up the one exception in that one society in in west
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africa you're right there's one society in west africa where that is the exception
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but everywhere else that is the rule i think that's such a eurocentric way of viewing beauty
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you look at the size of africa it's look at the size of europe i won't even do all that i won't
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even do all that i think what we can also look at is just beauty standards shift right like i was
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10 years ago having a like a fat ass was like okay you but nowadays it's like if you don't have
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a fat ass you're not attractive exactly but that stays a while wait talk talk and you're talking
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to you sorry it stays a while when there's a standard set so um let's say 10 years ago being
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a supermodel model thin was in fashion it will stay there for a little bit then there come another
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trend yeah it's not like it just changes but but but the point i'm making is that the issue that i'm
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having is and i agree with you it's weird i didn't think i was going to disagree with you as much as
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i'm doing today but um when it comes down to that number of like or you're a five and below it's
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like okay 10 years ago if i had a fat ass i'm a five and below but i didn't say 10 years ago i said
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today but i'm just saying like it shifts so for you to say like oh like i i'm not gonna comment on
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lizzo but for you to say that so definitively that if you're over this you're that i think that's
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what people have a hard time dealing with and on top of that it's like we connect that what's that
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five mean okay do you think do you think in most of human history okay well there probably wasn't
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even women over 300 pounds in most of human history but since since the development of like
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obesity has obesity ever been desired by and large by ben
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