JustPearlyThings - God won't STOP Your WIFE from LEAVING YOU

00:00:00.000 what up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily and welcome to the just pearly things

00:00:07.160 youtube channel i missed you guys one in the chat one in the chat if you guys can hear me okay if

00:00:15.320 we're running up and smooth all that jazz okay i want to make sure i turn this audio back on but

00:00:23.160 okay okay so hello hello hello today i just got back from a trip to the united states

00:00:34.540 and when i was in the united states i went on the daily wire show with michael knowles now if you

00:00:43.340 guys know anything about me when i first got into the more of the red pill space i would say i came

00:00:52.660 in with more of a traditional conservative viewpoint and some of my viewpoints were actually

00:00:58.120 i would say shaped by listening to the daily wire when i was younger was not the daily wire alone

00:01:03.800 but overall i've been a fan of their content for years ben shapiro was one of the first guys that

00:01:10.140 i i would say red pilled me you know i wasn't overly political when i was younger

00:01:15.820 um i believe the first time i could vote i didn't and the second time i voted republican

00:01:22.300 now a lot of the reason i voted republican the second time around was because i watched the daily

00:01:31.400 wire but what i have seen from the daily wire in the last two years is a huge blind spot just a the

00:01:41.280 biggest blind spot that i have ever seen in a company and

00:01:46.880 i was really nervous going out there because

00:01:52.100 it was almost a surreal moment it was basically in my in my eyes telling the daily wire about this

00:02:03.080 huge blind spot that i see for them um and debating on marriage in 2024 now i would like to remind you

00:02:13.320 that i didn't always have these opinions i didn't really understand why men didn't want to get married

00:02:18.760 why the institution was dying but

00:02:22.040 you know i i couldn't really

00:02:24.680 hide from the fact that i really

00:02:29.020 under the age of 40 most people aren't married or haven't been married for that long

00:02:34.280 the institution in itself is disappearing

00:02:37.180 and it didn't really

00:02:39.660 matter what my religion was or the way that i thought or what i thought was right

00:02:46.220 i knew

00:02:48.400 what i was seeing in front of me and what happened was i came to england and i started interviewing

00:02:55.080 a thousand women and i started interviewing men after divorce

00:02:59.880 um

00:03:02.040 and

00:03:04.760 it changed my opinion so today

00:03:07.560 i actually wanted to make this show

00:03:10.500 for the women that actually want to understand where the men are coming from

00:03:15.700 you know this is for the women that actually love men

00:03:19.820 maybe you have a father

00:03:22.000 that you want to protect

00:03:23.920 maybe you have a brother that you want to protect

00:03:26.920 but knowing this information will help you protect the men in your lives

00:03:31.820 and unfortunately what i noticed is what

00:03:35.180 michael knolls is pushing and the daily wire is pushing

00:03:39.100 leads men

00:03:40.980 to slaughter in a way

00:03:44.380 now i know this sounds dramatic okay

00:03:47.380 and and when i first heard this stuff this sounded really dramatic

00:03:51.220 i mean just find a good woman right

00:03:53.820 just find that special special woman

00:03:57.300 um so what i gathered from the michael knolls debate

00:04:02.760 was that he pushes

00:04:05.640 and some of the stuff i did talk about in the debate

00:04:08.640 but i really wanted to make sure

00:04:10.220 that i'm explaining my opinions in depth

00:04:13.460 because sometimes you might hear a soundbite

00:04:15.660 you might hear me say something offhand

00:04:17.880 and you might not understand where it's coming from

00:04:20.800 why i think this way

00:04:22.260 sometimes it's hard to convey this stuff over screen

00:04:25.780 so he says to get married young

00:04:28.820 ideally with zero sexual experience with women

00:04:32.300 no prenup

00:04:33.960 no dna test

00:04:35.740 and no divorce if she lies about

00:04:38.380 even if she lies about paternity

00:04:40.380 or tries to kill you

00:04:41.700 no there is no divorce allowed

00:04:44.840 and if anything goes wrong in the relationship

00:04:47.600 you just need to lead better

00:04:49.400 now when i set out to create this platform

00:04:53.820 what i'm trying to do is create

00:04:56.300 something that is honest

00:04:58.360 i'm not here to sell you religion

00:05:00.060 i'm not here to sell you a course

00:05:02.440 i'm not here

00:05:03.720 i'm not selling anything

00:05:05.340 i was just sick of being lied to

00:05:08.700 i was so tired of the dishonest media

00:05:12.360 and i would see it on the right

00:05:14.000 i would see it on the left

00:05:15.280 and and i would just see people not living in reality

00:05:18.560 because they're trying to sell me their religion

00:05:20.560 they're trying to sell me their political party

00:05:23.100 and all i wanted

00:05:25.760 was

00:05:27.080 to figure out what what was true about the world

00:05:30.680 because everybody seemed to be selling something

00:05:33.920 um

00:05:36.400 now

00:05:38.240 the second reason

00:05:42.920 that

00:05:44.020 this information is important

00:05:47.000 that it gets out there

00:05:48.180 is because i have brothers

00:05:49.620 you know

00:05:51.180 i i have five brothers

00:05:52.720 i have a father that i love

00:05:54.300 one day i hope i have a son

00:05:56.180 and i think it's so important

00:05:58.900 that men understand the risk of something

00:06:01.300 before signing up

00:06:02.360 if men want to get married

00:06:04.620 i i don't have any problem with that

00:06:07.120 but they should know what they are signing up for

00:06:10.040 and the problem is

00:06:11.620 if men understood how serious of a decision they were making

00:06:15.320 and understood exactly what they are signing

00:06:17.900 many men wouldn't sign up

00:06:20.100 so they keep trying to miscategorize me

00:06:22.920 as telling men what to do

00:06:24.540 because i think

00:06:26.180 every man should decide for himself

00:06:29.820 i i i think you know

00:06:32.700 i am not the one

00:06:34.540 that is going to take the fall

00:06:36.180 when you get married

00:06:37.020 i am not the one

00:06:39.140 that's going to take the fall

00:06:40.500 when you don't get married

00:06:41.460 i think that you

00:06:44.300 as the viewer

00:06:45.660 should weigh the pros

00:06:46.720 and the cons of a decision yourself

00:06:48.360 i think you should think for yourself

00:06:50.680 i don't think you should do what i say

00:06:52.300 i don't think you should do what michael knowles says

00:06:54.960 and the reason being is

00:06:57.280 i have seen the other side of this

00:07:01.860 and i personally

00:07:04.680 you know michael knowles at 33 years old

00:07:07.700 is telling young men to get married

00:07:09.520 get married get married

00:07:10.540 well

00:07:11.700 i know

00:07:15.360 how what percent of divorces are malicious

00:07:20.200 i know

00:07:22.360 that men are nine times more likely

00:07:25.220 to commit suicide after a bad divorce

00:07:27.320 i have interviewed men

00:07:29.640 that are on the brink of suicide

00:07:31.520 none of this is about me

00:07:33.000 and what you'll keep seeing

00:07:35.240 from the right

00:07:35.960 is they keep trying to make it about me

00:07:37.660 pearl's telling men what to do

00:07:39.800 pearl is single

00:07:41.760 unmarried

00:07:42.320 childless

00:07:43.000 grifter

00:07:43.680 none of this is about me

00:07:45.540 this is about the fathers

00:07:48.340 in this country

00:07:49.360 that do not have access

00:07:50.520 to their children

00:07:51.540 this is about the children

00:07:54.440 that are growing up

00:07:56.060 without their fathers

00:07:57.040 this is about the young men

00:07:59.780 that commit suicide

00:08:02.520 because they are horrified

00:08:04.260 at what their wife

00:08:05.660 was doing behind closed doors

00:08:07.440 this is about the men

00:08:09.700 that go crazy

00:08:13.400 and commit a crime

00:08:15.380 maybe shoot a judge

00:08:16.360 like someone on the east coast

00:08:17.540 just did

00:08:18.140 because they were driven

00:08:19.420 to insanity

00:08:20.480 by the family court system

00:08:22.020 and what i refuse to do

00:08:24.960 is shame men

00:08:26.580 and say that they are not real men

00:08:28.180 or they're doing the wrong thing

00:08:29.840 by

00:08:31.640 not participating in a system

00:08:34.820 that's set out to destroy them

00:08:37.020 and until you've actually

00:08:39.020 seen what i've seen

00:08:42.220 you may not understand it

00:08:45.380 so i

00:08:47.840 will be honest

00:08:49.360 regardless of what the people

00:08:50.860 call me

00:08:51.500 regardless of what they want

00:08:53.520 to say about me

00:08:54.400 you know

00:08:55.960 i'm always going to be honest

00:08:58.040 and men should be aware

00:09:00.460 of what they're signing up for

00:09:02.100 for example

00:09:03.420 in california

00:09:04.480 if you

00:09:05.960 find out you are not the father

00:09:07.560 after the age of two

00:09:09.000 when the child is two

00:09:10.140 because the laws are written

00:09:11.820 in the best interest

00:09:12.840 of the child

00:09:13.480 you are still on the hook

00:09:14.660 for child support for life

00:09:16.100 don't you think that is

00:09:18.920 important for men to know

00:09:20.380 now oftentimes what i'll hear

00:09:24.060 from the right

00:09:24.680 is do marriage like we do

00:09:26.680 we have the secret keys

00:09:28.300 keys to having a successful marriage

00:09:31.980 on the right

00:09:33.100 are conservatives

00:09:33.900 but then i look through

00:09:35.180 men on the right

00:09:37.420 andrew clavin married twice

00:09:39.780 dennis prager married three times

00:09:41.780 glenn beck married twice

00:09:43.100 crowder divorced

00:09:44.460 lauren southern single mother

00:09:46.700 we have very similar results

00:09:49.680 on the right

00:09:50.220 and the left

00:09:50.880 then the cope that i have

00:09:53.300 is

00:09:53.660 those aren't

00:09:54.940 real christians

00:09:56.380 and then

00:09:57.580 the hosts go into playing

00:09:59.320 god typically

00:10:00.460 i would look at it like that

00:10:01.940 deciding

00:10:03.360 who is real

00:10:04.520 and who wasn't

00:10:05.840 now

00:10:07.620 a lot of you guys

00:10:09.000 have asked me

00:10:10.020 why is this so important

00:10:11.520 to you pearl

00:10:12.060 why

00:10:13.080 why

00:10:13.480 why

00:10:13.960 why do you care

00:10:14.920 why is this so important

00:10:16.180 to you

00:10:16.700 um

00:10:18.180 and

00:10:19.940 there is a story

00:10:21.100 that i've kind of

00:10:22.640 shied away from telling live

00:10:24.160 because the internet

00:10:24.900 can just be

00:10:25.820 a bit harsh

00:10:27.240 a bit

00:10:27.700 you know

00:10:29.500 and and sometimes

00:10:30.720 when i give out

00:10:31.520 personal information

00:10:32.640 you know

00:10:33.160 the internet's kind of

00:10:34.640 kind of rude with it

00:10:35.620 they're kind of

00:10:36.220 but

00:10:37.200 you know

00:10:38.720 i i had

00:10:40.440 when i was 21

00:10:41.340 i got a phone call

00:10:44.280 you know

00:10:46.180 from

00:10:46.600 from

00:10:46.620 from my mom

00:10:48.160 and my mom

00:10:50.080 tells me

00:10:50.780 that

00:10:51.460 you know

00:10:54.400 my

00:10:54.740 my brother

00:10:55.380 had actually

00:10:56.200 tried to commit

00:10:57.900 suicide

00:10:58.420 and i don't want to go

00:11:01.320 into the details

00:11:02.100 as to why

00:11:02.940 or what happened

00:11:03.720 but

00:11:04.080 this information

00:11:07.520 can save lives

00:11:09.120 this information

00:11:11.020 is important

00:11:12.100 men need to know

00:11:13.260 what they're trying

00:11:14.060 to get into

00:11:14.660 you know

00:11:15.720 on top of that

00:11:16.460 i had

00:11:16.880 i had a relative

00:11:17.720 growing up

00:11:18.340 who was denied

00:11:18.900 access to his

00:11:19.780 children for years

00:11:20.800 i had the

00:11:22.300 the sweetest niece

00:11:23.340 she was the most

00:11:24.200 innocent

00:11:24.600 like pure child

00:11:25.740 and he

00:11:27.280 got into a relationship

00:11:29.600 with the wrong chick

00:11:30.660 and she decided

00:11:32.300 that she was going

00:11:33.180 to

00:11:33.580 you know

00:11:35.160 um

00:11:35.820 alienate him

00:11:36.740 from his children

00:11:37.440 and

00:11:39.440 you see this stuff

00:11:40.900 and

00:11:41.300 i don't know

00:11:42.860 how

00:11:43.360 you could not

00:11:44.320 warn

00:11:44.860 a brother

00:11:45.800 or a father

00:11:46.540 that you love

00:11:47.440 if you genuinely

00:11:49.280 love and want

00:11:50.140 to help men

00:11:50.840 so

00:11:52.680 how are

00:11:54.980 how are ways

00:11:55.840 that we can

00:11:56.380 actually help men

00:11:57.500 you know

00:11:58.840 what

00:11:59.200 what policy

00:12:00.720 changes are there

00:12:01.900 so

00:12:03.760 the first one

00:12:04.640 i

00:12:05.200 i want to show

00:12:06.580 this clip

00:12:07.400 okay so

00:12:09.420 let me

00:12:11.660 let me find

00:12:14.620 this clip

00:12:15.400 one second

00:12:16.320 okay

00:12:23.200 could we pull

00:12:24.060 this up

00:12:24.600 blessing

00:12:25.380 i don't

00:12:27.500 there's

00:12:28.000 there's

00:12:28.500 there should

00:12:29.140 be

00:12:29.260 we ready

00:12:30.220 okay

00:12:30.520 so this

00:12:31.700 is a clip

00:12:32.240 that the

00:12:32.840 that they're

00:12:33.420 pushing out

00:12:34.200 okay let me

00:12:36.080 there should

00:12:38.320 be mandatory

00:12:38.840 dna testing

00:12:39.800 at birth

00:12:40.300 i don't know

00:12:41.300 why you

00:12:41.980 okay

00:12:42.480 because

00:12:42.980 it's calling

00:12:44.120 my wife a

00:12:44.700 whore to do

00:12:45.220 that i mean

00:12:45.540 it's ridiculous

00:12:46.200 why okay

00:12:47.040 because the

00:12:47.520 assumption

00:12:48.080 of the

00:12:48.520 mandatory

00:12:49.680 good grief

00:12:50.240 but the

00:12:50.860 the premise

00:12:51.660 of it

00:12:52.020 is that my

00:12:52.420 wife is

00:12:52.740 sleeping

00:12:52.980 around

00:12:53.300 okay so

00:12:53.880 so

00:12:54.100 i'm quite

00:12:54.320 confident

00:12:54.580 my wife

00:12:54.900 is not

00:12:55.160 sleeping

00:12:55.360 the woman

00:12:55.600 the woman

00:12:56.160 feels icky

00:12:57.080 for a little

00:12:57.760 bit

00:12:58.160 but then

00:12:58.900 the man

00:12:59.300 feels

00:12:59.540 i would

00:13:00.100 feel quite

00:13:00.560 icky

00:13:00.780 the woman

00:13:01.960 feels icky

00:13:02.700 for a little

00:13:03.240 bit

00:13:03.660 fine maybe

00:13:04.160 the man

00:13:04.560 feels icky

00:13:05.320 certainly

00:13:05.660 but

00:13:06.020 it prevents

00:13:08.940 men from

00:13:09.660 being put

00:13:10.520 on child

00:13:11.020 support and

00:13:11.580 raising kids

00:13:12.280 that aren't

00:13:12.700 theirs

00:13:13.080 and if people

00:13:14.060 want to opt

00:13:14.640 out of it

00:13:15.160 fine you can

00:13:16.320 opt out

00:13:16.800 so it's not

00:13:17.220 mandatory

00:13:17.560 it's voluntary

00:13:19.240 but there

00:13:19.660 is voluntary

00:13:20.340 i think it

00:13:22.480 would be better

00:13:23.000 if it was

00:13:23.600 mandatory

00:13:24.040 i think

00:13:24.640 that's

00:13:24.840 a better

00:13:25.120 so then

00:13:25.340 the men

00:13:25.540 can't

00:13:25.780 opt

00:13:25.920 out

00:13:26.120 oh my

00:13:26.940 gosh

00:13:27.080 what are

00:13:27.540 you

00:13:27.620 so why

00:13:30.080 was i

00:13:30.460 so frustrated

00:13:31.400 by this

00:13:32.020 why was i

00:13:32.640 so frustrated

00:13:33.380 because

00:13:35.040 i have

00:13:37.040 seen the

00:13:37.680 other side

00:13:38.480 of this

00:13:39.020 and he's

00:13:40.560 simply waving

00:13:41.380 it off

00:13:41.820 like it's

00:13:42.300 funny

00:13:42.620 he's simply

00:13:44.020 waving it

00:13:44.560 like this

00:13:45.160 isn't about

00:13:45.940 me

00:13:46.660 this isn't

00:13:47.960 about winning

00:13:48.640 a debate

00:13:49.180 this is

00:13:50.860 about the

00:13:51.560 men that

00:13:52.080 are that

00:13:52.860 find out

00:13:53.480 after he's

00:13:54.600 invested

00:13:54.980 seven

00:13:55.560 eight years

00:13:56.900 into a

00:13:57.380 child

00:13:57.720 that that

00:13:58.620 kid is

00:13:58.940 not his

00:13:59.440 that's

00:14:00.120 for the

00:14:00.400 daughter

00:14:00.760 that thought

00:14:01.980 that was

00:14:03.060 his father

00:14:03.720 his or her

00:14:05.000 father

00:14:05.360 and then at

00:14:06.860 seven eight

00:14:07.260 wonders where

00:14:07.840 the dad

00:14:08.180 went

00:14:08.560 this is

00:14:11.080 not uncommon

00:14:12.360 we can

00:14:15.000 argue back

00:14:15.960 and forth

00:14:16.380 about how

00:14:16.940 common it

00:14:17.500 is but

00:14:18.560 mandatory

00:14:19.160 dna tests

00:14:20.140 protect not

00:14:20.940 only the

00:14:21.420 father

00:14:21.900 but the

00:14:23.140 child

00:14:23.580 none of

00:14:24.880 this is

00:14:25.740 funny

00:14:26.500 none of

00:14:27.920 this is

00:14:28.240 about a

00:14:28.740 debate

00:14:29.200 these are

00:14:30.480 about real

00:14:31.520 issues that

00:14:32.240 affect fathers

00:14:33.160 and children

00:14:33.960 you know

00:14:35.860 fathers in my

00:14:37.220 lifetime have

00:14:37.940 become a

00:14:38.400 luxury

00:14:38.820 because of

00:14:42.360 some of the

00:14:42.780 policies that

00:14:43.520 are out

00:14:43.840 there

00:14:44.100 and the

00:14:45.040 only solution

00:14:45.900 conservatives

00:14:46.520 seem to be

00:14:47.340 able to come

00:14:47.840 up with

00:14:48.340 is to

00:14:48.960 shame men

00:14:49.900 for making

00:14:50.780 a logical

00:14:51.460 decision

00:14:51.980 and trying

00:14:53.200 to religion

00:14:53.840 them into

00:14:54.360 it

00:14:54.600 you can

00:14:55.760 we can

00:14:56.180 virtue

00:14:56.520 signal on

00:14:57.260 platforms

00:14:57.940 we can

00:14:59.200 get some

00:14:59.940 good clips

00:15:00.720 but that

00:15:01.760 doesn't

00:15:02.160 change the

00:15:02.800 fact

00:15:03.340 that this

00:15:07.000 is becoming

00:15:08.200 increasingly not

00:15:09.420 a good deal

00:15:09.920 for men

00:15:10.360 and men

00:15:11.320 will continue

00:15:12.000 to walk

00:15:12.520 away

00:15:12.940 because of

00:15:14.960 these policies

00:15:15.820 okay

00:15:16.240 so

00:15:17.700 let me get

00:15:18.720 the next

00:15:19.080 one

00:15:19.380 the next

00:15:23.480 thing

00:15:23.860 they're trying

00:15:25.340 to they're

00:15:25.800 trying to pin

00:15:26.280 me on

00:15:26.560 is why it's

00:15:27.400 still good

00:15:27.820 to do

00:15:28.260 what's the

00:15:29.360 what's the

00:15:29.760 argument for

00:15:30.560 what marriage

00:15:31.180 is why it's

00:15:32.040 okay

00:15:32.580 so

00:15:33.560 this was

00:15:34.860 after and

00:15:35.680 I'm not sure

00:15:36.180 there's like a

00:15:36.980 new trend

00:15:37.760 where they just

00:15:39.020 always call you a

00:15:39.860 liberal or a

00:15:40.540 feminist

00:15:40.820 now

00:15:44.020 I used to

00:15:45.400 say I

00:15:45.800 actually want to

00:15:46.260 talk about why

00:15:47.180 I have a

00:15:47.640 different opinion

00:15:48.260 on this now

00:15:48.940 I used to

00:15:50.420 say

00:15:50.740 I used to

00:15:53.460 say ban

00:15:54.400 divorce

00:15:54.940 okay that

00:15:55.580 that used to

00:15:56.220 be something I

00:15:56.820 said on

00:15:57.160 shows

00:15:57.540 what made

00:15:59.620 me reconsider

00:16:00.440 this opinion

00:16:01.320 it is quite

00:16:02.580 funny to say

00:16:03.300 just ban

00:16:03.880 divorce you know

00:16:04.680 just kind of

00:16:05.100 funny but

00:16:05.660 but this

00:16:06.340 isn't funny

00:16:06.860 what made

00:16:08.000 me change

00:16:08.540 my opinion

00:16:09.100 is that there

00:16:10.400 are so many

00:16:11.100 men trapped

00:16:12.580 in miserable

00:16:13.540 marriages that

00:16:15.160 on paper did

00:16:16.560 nothing wrong

00:16:17.320 they don't

00:16:18.540 know

00:16:18.760 and I

00:16:24.900 don't think

00:16:25.360 it's fair to

00:16:26.280 those men

00:16:27.000 that they stay

00:16:28.920 trapped in these

00:16:29.820 sexless miserable

00:16:31.240 marriages I'm

00:16:31.900 gonna read you I

00:16:32.700 get these stories

00:16:33.400 all the time guys

00:16:34.260 and I know I

00:16:35.480 know everyone's

00:16:35.960 gonna think Pearl

00:16:36.780 Pearl you're just

00:16:37.500 making this up

00:16:38.200 Pearl they're

00:16:39.000 just selective

00:16:39.660 biased stories

00:16:40.640 guys it's not

00:16:42.420 there there

00:16:44.000 is it is more

00:16:45.980 common than it

00:16:46.900 is uncommon in

00:16:47.900 2024 and them

00:16:50.260 trying to sell

00:16:51.120 you on their

00:16:52.700 religion that

00:16:53.400 their special

00:16:54.040 religion is

00:16:54.700 different is just

00:16:55.980 dishonest and I'm

00:16:57.240 not dishonest you

00:16:58.780 know I grew up

00:16:59.540 Catholic maybe I'm

00:17:01.120 not Catholic enough

00:17:02.120 for them I don't

00:17:03.040 know but no the

00:17:06.700 Catholics are not

00:17:07.480 special the

00:17:08.580 Protestants are

00:17:09.380 not special the

00:17:10.580 Orthodox are not

00:17:11.620 special none of

00:17:14.160 them are stopping

00:17:15.920 this okay dear

00:17:18.220 Pearl I have

00:17:19.600 watched you for a

00:17:20.280 while now and I

00:17:21.120 really enjoy your

00:17:21.960 content I just

00:17:23.540 watched your clip I

00:17:24.520 was sexless for

00:17:25.260 seven years and

00:17:26.040 found it mirrored my

00:17:26.900 own my own story in

00:17:28.420 many ways I hope

00:17:29.740 that some of the

00:17:30.300 younger men in your

00:17:31.080 audience might be

00:17:32.680 reassured and

00:17:33.500 encouraged by

00:17:34.080 believing in

00:17:34.600 themselves even

00:17:35.680 though I'm not a

00:17:36.380 patron I hope to

00:17:37.500 go on air I am

00:17:39.240 53 years old from

00:17:40.420 the UK and wanted

00:17:41.800 to share some of

00:17:42.580 my marriage with

00:17:43.300 you I have been a

00:17:44.700 Christian my whole

00:17:45.660 life and believe in

00:17:47.280 traditional values I

00:17:48.820 only ever wanted a

00:17:50.520 woman of the same

00:17:51.380 values and beliefs to

00:17:52.580 share my life with I

00:17:54.080 never dated or put

00:17:55.080 myself out there as

00:17:56.480 long as I believed in

00:17:57.560 being chaste kept my

00:17:58.680 virginity and dignity

00:17:59.760 and prayed that my

00:18:00.920 future my my future

00:18:02.600 wife would find me

00:18:03.580 optimistic right I met

00:18:05.800 my wife at church I

00:18:06.900 was 19 and and Ann

00:18:08.680 was 21 she was

00:18:10.280 studying nursing to

00:18:11.280 be a nurse in the

00:18:12.180 NHS and I was

00:18:13.020 bouncing between

00:18:13.680 dead-end warehouse

00:18:14.440 jobs we both joined

00:18:16.080 an informal group of a

00:18:17.400 dozen of our young

00:18:18.140 Christian friends at

00:18:19.080 church I've always

00:18:20.000 been shy and low in

00:18:21.000 confidence with no

00:18:21.840 idea how to talk to

00:18:22.760 women so found this

00:18:24.160 mix of 20-something

00:18:25.200 people welcoming and

00:18:26.340 easy to deal with I

00:18:27.760 was friends with her

00:18:28.400 for four years before

00:18:29.460 even considering her as

00:18:30.560 a potential partner

00:18:31.400 during our friendship

00:18:32.520 we spent a lot of

00:18:33.320 time together at

00:18:34.200 church on pilgrimage

00:18:35.260 trips fundraiser events

00:18:37.320 outreach missions and

00:18:38.840 spiritual retreats all

00:18:40.640 within the safety of the

00:18:41.720 friend group I found

00:18:42.940 Ann to be kind caring

00:18:44.760 chaste generous of

00:18:46.380 spirit devout in faith

00:18:47.840 devout in the Christian

00:18:49.840 faith these were

00:18:50.940 exactly the qualities I

00:18:52.180 was looking for in a

00:18:52.960 woman so I seriously

00:18:55.520 want you guys to listen

00:18:56.640 to this story I'm gonna

00:18:58.460 keep going and tell me

00:18:59.360 what was he supposed to

00:19:00.940 do differently where

00:19:01.720 did he not lead

00:19:02.700 correctly I have known

00:19:05.520 Ann for four years

00:19:06.780 when I realized she

00:19:07.860 wanted to change the

00:19:08.800 I would I had known

00:19:10.180 Ann for four years when

00:19:11.240 I realized she wanted

00:19:12.000 to change the nature of

00:19:13.040 our relationship I was

00:19:14.540 nervous and shy I

00:19:15.560 couldn't ask her out on

00:19:16.380 a date I wasn't even

00:19:17.320 sure if I wanted to go

00:19:18.420 on a date never having

00:19:19.400 been on one before it

00:19:20.920 was just before Ann's

00:19:21.940 28th birthday when she

00:19:23.360 asked me out she took

00:19:24.720 me to a motorbike

00:19:25.960 circuit to watch

00:19:29.080 racing how could I

00:19:30.580 refuse it was just a

00:19:31.860 first first date right

00:19:33.160 the date went really

00:19:34.400 well as I know a lot

00:19:35.980 about motorsport and

00:19:37.300 was able to talk about

00:19:38.860 the drivers and cars

00:19:40.140 with ease Ann was also

00:19:41.740 a big motorsport fan we

00:19:44.800 talked and watched the

00:19:45.800 races and then went for

00:19:48.100 a meal after as we

00:19:49.640 parted that evening I

00:19:50.900 thanked her for a

00:19:51.520 lovely day but couldn't

00:19:52.540 bring myself to kiss her

00:19:53.680 good night the next day I

00:19:55.120 had a terrible head

00:19:56.400 cold it had rained

00:19:59.500 constantly all day at the

00:20:01.280 racing and I was ill in

00:20:02.440 bed for three weeks I was

00:20:04.400 so ill I totally forgot to

00:20:05.840 call Ann and when I saw

00:20:06.880 Ann again at church she

00:20:08.300 thought I had dumped her

00:20:09.160 and bent and blanked me I

00:20:11.560 explained okay blah blah

00:20:12.760 blah basically and wanted a

00:20:15.320 second date very quickly and

00:20:16.540 she was my girlfriend in an

00:20:17.640 exclusive relationship we

00:20:18.840 had a lot of fun trips

00:20:20.520 away nights out nights in

00:20:22.340 but no sex just to be

00:20:23.920 clear we were both virgins

00:20:25.180 Christian and Chase we

00:20:26.240 both believed in no sex

00:20:27.480 until marriage and only

00:20:28.680 went to first base kissing

00:20:29.960 cuddling clothes on above

00:20:31.100 the waist early Ann was my

00:20:32.600 first girlfriend so I was

00:20:33.660 new to all of this I

00:20:35.040 didn't know what I was

00:20:35.660 missing out on I didn't

00:20:36.660 care I believed I was

00:20:37.600 being honorable and

00:20:38.420 respectful and went home

00:20:39.380 with blue balls every

00:20:40.300 night I still believe that

00:20:41.440 but I wouldn't recommend

00:20:42.580 it to anyone else we had

00:20:44.200 been dating for one year

00:20:45.200 on Ann's 29th birthday I

00:20:48.680 was ambushed and demanded

00:20:51.320 to know my intentions and

00:20:52.620 wanted to be married by 30

00:20:53.860 and start a family as soon

00:20:54.980 as possible if I wasn't

00:20:56.480 going to propose right

00:20:57.320 away getting gauged and

00:20:58.620 set the date of the

00:20:59.280 wedding she would break it

00:21:00.120 off and find someone else

00:21:01.180 I was shocked and in

00:21:02.820 truth I wasn't ready but I

00:21:04.000 didn't want to lose Ann

00:21:04.880 either I folded immediately

00:21:06.300 I was ever a geek with all

00:21:09.200 the hobbies and interests

00:21:10.180 you would expect a metal

00:21:11.480 drummer too with black

00:21:12.460 leather and long hair I

00:21:13.520 came from a pretty

00:21:14.260 dysfunctional family so I

00:21:16.600 had no idea of a healthy

00:21:18.240 normal relationship in the

00:21:19.660 absence of strong male

00:21:20.860 role models or a decent

00:21:22.060 best friend after getting

00:21:23.660 engaged we went away for a

00:21:25.000 romantic weekend by the

00:21:26.420 sea okay wait okay let me

00:21:30.060 get to the marriage okay so

00:21:31.520 they get married guys

00:21:32.520 during the first year of

00:21:34.260 marriage we had regular

00:21:35.280 sex and wanted to start a

00:21:37.060 family immediately we both

00:21:38.360 had problems conceiving and

00:21:39.980 needed complex medical

00:21:41.240 treatments to resolve we

00:21:42.700 spent years trying I remember

00:21:44.120 the chart okay as soon as

00:21:46.160 Ann got pregnant this is what

00:21:47.540 I was getting to okay as

00:21:48.840 soon as Ann got pregnant she

00:21:50.160 lost all interest in me as a

00:21:51.940 person I felt like I was

00:21:53.720 only a provider and

00:21:54.940 protector being an older

00:21:56.620 mother the pregnancy was

00:21:57.900 difficult for Ann the birth

00:21:59.560 went really badly and

00:22:00.580 required emergency surgery it

00:22:02.560 took Ann months to recover I

00:22:04.460 was happy to allow her to

00:22:05.520 dwell on her femininity and

00:22:06.740 focus on motherhood while we

00:22:08.320 shared the parenting of my

00:22:09.380 son and continue to

00:22:11.180 prioritize my son a hundred

00:22:12.460 percent for the rest of the

00:22:13.560 marriage and I felt like a

00:22:14.600 lodger a lodger who paid all

00:22:16.460 the bills and expenses after

00:22:17.900 four years I asked if we were

00:22:19.140 ever going to have sexed

00:22:20.220 again which caused a massive

00:22:21.760 row is that all you think

00:22:23.220 about Ann screamed and

00:22:24.320 threw me out of my own

00:22:25.180 house I knew the birth had

00:22:26.540 been difficult for Ann with

00:22:27.820 physical and emotional scars

00:22:29.300 to heal no one ever

00:22:31.000 considered how I felt during

00:22:33.220 that experience I moved in

00:22:35.720 with my dad and his partner

00:22:36.780 three months to consider my

00:22:38.100 options my parents I knew I

00:22:42.360 had to go back to co-parent my

00:22:43.940 son and be the man and to be

00:22:45.740 the man I wasn't to break this

00:22:47.100 horrible cycle of family

00:22:48.380 dysfunction and become the

00:22:50.080 man I wanted to be I knew the

00:22:51.880 sacrifice would involve and I

00:22:53.780 would reconcile myself to it

00:22:55.700 spending three months with my

00:22:57.200 dad acutely aware of his

00:22:58.740 failures as a parent the next

00:23:01.040 20 years of our marriage were

00:23:03.000 sexless a sexless marriage is

00:23:04.680 defined by having sex 10 times

00:23:06.800 a year or less sure I got some

00:23:08.680 on my birthday maybe our

00:23:09.820 wedding anniversary but this

00:23:11.040 felt like pity sex to me Ann's

00:23:13.060 heart wasn't in it and it

00:23:14.140 seemed like a chore to her this

00:23:15.840 only lasted a few years until

00:23:17.460 it stopped when Ann moved out

00:23:18.680 of our marriage bed and into

00:23:20.280 the spare room this was the

00:23:21.860 ultimate humiliation for me as

00:23:24.740 Ann had focused so much on our

00:23:26.120 son so am I I'm extremely proud

00:23:28.500 to say he's smart confident

00:23:29.860 driven and a handsome young man

00:23:31.420 he has a solid moral moral

00:23:33.440 comfort compass a righteous

00:23:35.140 self sense of right and wrong

00:23:37.040 with a kind and generous heart

00:23:38.680 he's twice the man I was at his

00:23:40.140 age he did great in school and

00:23:41.920 is at university with honors in a

00:23:44.440 specialist technical subject he's a

00:23:46.680 drummer and has a girlfriend okay

00:23:49.780 do I believe in divorce in that

00:23:54.180 instance do you think that's fair

00:23:58.400 because I look at that as fraud

00:24:00.720 the same thing I would say as

00:24:03.900 paternity fraud and I guess until

00:24:10.060 you've seen what I've seen you just

00:24:14.100 wouldn't know that's the best way I

00:24:17.040 could say to describe it so

00:24:19.720 it is does that make me a feminist

00:24:28.680 does that make me a liberal does that

00:24:36.960 mean I mean what what else was the man

00:24:38.820 supposed to do and what they're

00:24:40.700 going to try to do the trad cons keep

00:24:42.800 trying to convince you this is an

00:24:44.980 outlier and I don't know how they

00:24:47.020 could when they go on whatever

00:24:49.000 podcast and there's girls with their

00:24:52.240 boobs out and crosses on them when

00:24:54.960 women are going viral and getting

00:24:56.520 propped up that are ex only fans

00:24:58.460 workers and and they're gonna they're

00:25:01.280 gonna keep trying to pretend like this

00:25:03.200 is a niche thing this isn't real this

00:25:05.360 isn't real but I don't know how you

00:25:08.260 can and and guys you know I had a

00:25:11.540 very similar view and then I

00:25:14.940 interviewed a thousand women I spoke

00:25:17.340 to victims of divorce rape and I

00:25:19.340 changed my opinion I am not here to

00:25:26.000 tell you as a man to marry or to not

00:25:28.160 marry I am saying to go in informed in

00:25:32.540 whatever you want to do another cope

00:25:37.140 that I keep seeing is that there are

00:25:38.880 enough good women to go around and

00:25:40.680 that men just need to go to church and

00:25:42.960 my question to you is then why isn't

00:25:45.760 the reputation of church women amazing

00:25:48.320 why aren't more young men going to

00:25:51.200 church why aren't we seeing the the

00:25:53.500 birthrights right sorry the birth rates

00:25:56.460 going up again none of this is about me

00:26:00.520 they keep making it about me pearls a

00:26:03.180 liberal pearls a feminist pearl hates

00:26:05.700 women pearls this pearls that pearls

00:26:07.840 that guys why do we keep making it

00:26:10.080 about me when it's about the men it's

00:26:14.180 about the men that are separated from

00:26:16.400 their children it's about the men that

00:26:18.840 it you know that live a mile from their

00:26:21.180 children and haven't seen their kids in

00:26:23.000 two years it's about the men that go to

00:26:25.500 court and have to fight tooth and nail to

00:26:28.720 maybe see their kids every other weekend

00:26:30.720 there are men that figure out the

00:26:33.520 system and get through it but for every

00:26:35.520 one man that figures it out there's 10

00:26:37.600 that gets absolutely wrecked

00:26:39.720 but they all they want me to do is lie

00:26:46.080 and I refuse to lie because of my

00:26:51.200 religion I refuse to push men into

00:26:56.320 something that causes men to commit

00:26:58.880 suicide every single year because of my

00:27:02.500 religion I just won't do it and if you

00:27:04.760 want to say I'm a feminist if you want to

00:27:06.620 say I'm immoral for that I don't really

00:27:08.540 give a shit because I have seen the other

00:27:11.140 side of all this there is a death in a

00:27:14.060 man's eyes that I cannot explain when and

00:27:18.220 when he comes in and it's like his soul is

00:27:24.580 gone you know the entire community thinks

00:27:28.320 he's an abuser he's lost his he's lost

00:27:30.220 everything

00:27:30.940 and

00:27:33.500 and

00:27:37.940 they they they want you to to sign up

00:27:43.860 anyway with no precautions I mean guys

00:27:47.300 you saw me during that that interview I

00:27:50.720 could not believe he said no prenup it was

00:27:55.040 you know

00:28:00.100 it it it it was mind-blowing to me

00:28:05.280 it was

00:28:06.760 because I I just don't know how you

00:28:09.680 couldn't

00:28:10.220 support a prenup with somebody that you

00:28:13.780 love

00:28:14.400 you know

00:28:15.900 so

00:28:17.660 what what are what are things that I

00:28:20.920 personally would recommend

00:28:22.180 now some of these may sound extreme to

00:28:26.980 you

00:28:27.280 but I'll try to make you follow how I

00:28:32.540 got this decision so the first thing is

00:28:36.300 mandatory DNA testing

00:28:37.940 Michael Knowles said that his wife's

00:28:41.880 feelings were really important so I'm

00:28:44.220 gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna take out

00:28:46.620 these maybe I'm gonna write on the

00:28:49.720 whiteboard okay

00:28:50.480 okay

00:28:52.180 um

00:28:52.880 so we have

00:28:55.960 okay

00:28:58.160 can I I can put this one up right

00:29:02.640 is it

00:29:04.060 does this work

00:29:05.240 I don't think it's working

00:29:06.180 um

00:29:07.760 this is just on my butt

00:29:11.300 you put it up

00:29:12.640 I don't need that

00:29:13.880 um

00:29:14.840 okay

00:29:15.180 um

00:29:17.760 so

00:29:20.440 we have

00:29:24.660 oh my god you're killing me

00:29:33.760 blessing

00:29:34.040 um

00:29:35.920 all right thank you

00:29:36.980 um

00:29:38.400 all right raising a kid that's not

00:29:40.880 yours

00:29:41.500 number two

00:29:43.900 kid finds out

00:29:46.400 dad

00:29:49.580 isn't

00:29:51.640 their dad

00:29:53.780 men that commit suicide

00:29:58.980 over this

00:30:01.960 and what they're gonna do

00:30:05.360 and this is what I've seen the

00:30:07.220 trad cons do over and over again

00:30:08.800 they are somehow going to downplay

00:30:10.920 it and act like this isn't common

00:30:13.020 so

00:30:14.320 we've seen numbers of up to 30%

00:30:17.160 but let's just pretend

00:30:18.920 it's 1%

00:30:19.960 1% of men

00:30:21.780 raising children that aren't theirs

00:30:24.380 even if this prevents

00:30:27.040 one out of every 100

00:30:28.660 these things

00:30:31.260 are more important

00:30:32.640 than wife's

00:30:34.560 feelings

00:30:36.280 call me crazy

00:30:39.960 all right

00:30:41.760 call me

00:30:42.720 call me a misogynist

00:30:44.800 call me sexist

00:30:46.120 but

00:30:47.500 okay

00:30:51.160 but

00:30:52.200 personally

00:30:54.580 I think

00:30:56.640 that that's more important

00:30:58.960 okay

00:31:00.440 even if it's 1 out of 100

00:31:02.840 and that's what you guys are gonna keep seeing

00:31:04.640 you know we're gonna keep seeing

00:31:06.580 sex workers

00:31:07.700 out in the open

00:31:08.560 and they'll keep saying go to church

00:31:09.740 and find a good woman

00:31:10.660 and you're gonna keep seeing more craziness in church

00:31:13.620 and they'll keep telling you to go there

00:31:15.020 children deserve fathers

00:31:28.300 okay

00:31:28.740 and men deserve access to their children

00:31:32.020 and

00:31:36.020 unfortunately

00:31:37.280 unfortunately

00:31:41.500 unfortunately

00:31:41.900 we're in a society

00:31:43.120 that that's not the case

00:31:45.340 so

00:31:45.660 mandatory DNA testing

00:31:47.160 second thing

00:31:47.880 prenups

00:31:48.660 I do not know why you wouldn't

00:31:52.620 tell a man to protect himself

00:31:54.600 if a man waits until

00:31:58.860 let's just say 30

00:31:59.920 or maybe he gets married at 20

00:32:02.460 why is the woman entitled to his stuff

00:32:05.900 we could do a middle ground

00:32:08.820 and say

00:32:09.540 maybe some sort of prenup

00:32:14.160 or the person that files

00:32:15.480 maybe we bring back

00:32:17.820 fault divorce

00:32:18.720 where if the woman is refusing

00:32:20.060 the husband's sex

00:32:21.200 he can file

00:32:22.680 if the woman is

00:32:24.800 I don't know

00:32:26.940 cheating on him

00:32:27.720 or the man's cheating

00:32:28.580 maybe we just keep

00:32:32.140 marriage

00:32:33.000 in the church

00:32:34.200 maybe it's not with the state

00:32:35.620 there's a million ways

00:32:37.700 we can do this

00:32:38.440 I could come up with a compromise

00:32:39.860 okay

00:32:40.380 but

00:32:41.340 I think it's quite foolish

00:32:44.380 to tell young men

00:32:45.360 not to protect themselves

00:32:46.560 you know

00:32:49.960 men only get custody

00:32:51.900 10% of the time

00:32:53.180 and what you'll often hear

00:32:55.180 is that

00:32:56.500 men are not fighting

00:32:57.800 for their kids

00:32:58.540 they're just not doing enough

00:32:59.780 well

00:33:01.040 in all actuality

00:33:02.320 many lawyers are advising

00:33:03.720 that men do not fight

00:33:04.880 for their children

00:33:05.580 because they only have

00:33:06.600 a 10% chance of winning

00:33:07.940 that's why

00:33:10.620 many men

00:33:12.480 can't afford

00:33:13.320 fighting for a child

00:33:14.480 and the problem you get

00:33:16.420 with a lot of these

00:33:17.180 elitist men

00:33:17.920 and maybe

00:33:18.660 they're down to earth

00:33:20.300 I've met them

00:33:20.780 you know

00:33:21.280 I've met Michael Knowles

00:33:22.100 in person

00:33:22.500 I don't think any of this

00:33:23.440 is intentional

00:33:24.060 but the truth of the matter

00:33:26.000 is

00:33:26.420 those men will have

00:33:27.900 the money

00:33:28.420 for a lawyer

00:33:29.520 they will have the money

00:33:31.000 for a divorce

00:33:32.040 not

00:33:33.560 the average man

00:33:34.980 doesn't have that

00:33:36.720 none of this is about me

00:33:39.520 none of this is about

00:33:40.940 your religion

00:33:41.520 it is about

00:33:42.880 fathers getting access

00:33:44.320 to their children

00:33:45.280 it is about

00:33:46.840 the divorce laws

00:33:47.920 today

00:33:48.620 okay

00:33:49.760 the next thing

00:33:51.920 that I would like

00:33:52.700 to see happen

00:33:53.380 is taking out

00:33:54.100 all domestic violence

00:33:55.540 proceedings out of

00:33:56.360 civil court

00:33:56.920 many of you

00:33:58.240 may not know

00:33:58.960 that in family court

00:34:00.560 evidence is not

00:34:02.120 required to

00:34:03.220 convict someone

00:34:04.200 of abuse

00:34:04.880 now it's not

00:34:06.500 a criminal record

00:34:07.380 but it's based

00:34:08.360 on a balance

00:34:09.100 of probabilities

00:34:09.940 meaning

00:34:10.440 it is more likely

00:34:11.780 that a man

00:34:12.360 did something

00:34:13.080 than didn't do it

00:34:14.020 meaning a woman

00:34:15.160 can go cry

00:34:15.860 on a stand

00:34:16.480 say that she was

00:34:18.400 abused

00:34:18.740 and if the judge

00:34:19.440 buys her story

00:34:20.420 if they believe it

00:34:21.420 the man

00:34:23.100 could be

00:34:25.060 not given access

00:34:28.120 to his children

00:34:28.840 for life

00:34:29.460 maybe years

00:34:30.260 this happens

00:34:31.600 all the time

00:34:32.260 it is not

00:34:33.620 uncommon

00:34:34.420 so I think

00:34:38.020 that if you

00:34:39.000 are going to

00:34:39.580 accuse a man

00:34:40.180 of abuse

00:34:40.700 I think you need

00:34:41.780 to go to

00:34:42.060 criminal court

00:34:42.660 get a guilty

00:34:44.120 plea

00:34:44.460 and then

00:34:45.800 come back

00:34:46.420 but what I

00:34:47.500 see over

00:34:48.040 and over

00:34:48.400 and over

00:34:48.700 again

00:34:48.940 is women

00:34:49.260 going to

00:34:49.660 family court

00:34:50.360 accusing men

00:34:51.420 of abuse

00:34:51.900 taking the

00:34:52.760 children

00:34:53.080 taking the

00:34:53.660 money

00:34:53.820 this is not

00:34:54.420 fair

00:34:54.740 this is not

00:34:56.100 fair

00:34:56.360 and what they

00:34:57.780 keep trying

00:34:58.500 to do

00:34:59.100 is somehow

00:34:59.940 blame the

00:35:00.440 men

00:35:00.640 they didn't

00:35:01.460 they should

00:35:02.500 have led

00:35:02.860 better

00:35:03.280 I'm like

00:35:06.320 have you guys

00:35:06.720 ever been

00:35:07.080 left by a

00:35:07.800 woman for

00:35:08.160 no reason

00:35:08.620 women admit

00:35:09.180 to this

00:35:09.700 I've seen

00:35:10.640 Christian women

00:35:11.380 get on

00:35:11.760 TikTok

00:35:12.040 and say

00:35:12.520 they left

00:35:12.860 their family

00:35:13.400 of five

00:35:13.820 years

00:35:14.280 to find

00:35:15.980 themselves

00:35:16.480 I mean

00:35:16.940 like

00:35:17.180 are you

00:35:18.540 guys

00:35:18.740 not

00:35:18.980 seeing

00:35:19.320 this

00:35:19.740 are you

00:35:20.800 not

00:35:21.120 are you

00:35:21.840 am I

00:35:23.140 crazy

00:35:23.660 okay

00:35:25.700 then

00:35:27.880 taking out

00:35:29.300 domestic

00:35:29.840 abuse

00:35:30.360 personally

00:35:31.260 I would

00:35:32.020 get rid

00:35:32.300 of child

00:35:32.600 support

00:35:32.880 and alimony

00:35:33.360 I think

00:35:34.420 you've got

00:35:34.700 to be

00:35:35.160 accountable

00:35:35.940 for your

00:35:36.420 decisions

00:35:36.880 but I

00:35:37.500 am open

00:35:38.040 to some

00:35:38.460 middle ground

00:35:39.060 where we

00:35:39.420 at least

00:35:39.820 cap how

00:35:40.900 much they

00:35:41.280 can get

00:35:41.820 yeah and

00:35:47.980 I think

00:35:48.240 that's

00:35:48.780 pretty much

00:35:49.640 it

00:35:49.840 I had

00:35:50.380 some

00:35:50.580 other

00:35:50.820 ones

00:35:51.140 but

00:35:51.440 let me

00:35:52.860 let me

00:36:00.280 see

00:36:00.620 okay let

00:36:00.960 me look

00:36:01.200 at the

00:36:01.460 comments

00:36:01.960 now

00:36:04.400 let me

00:36:05.740 know in

00:36:05.980 the chat

00:36:06.340 am I

00:36:06.640 crazy for

00:36:07.600 these opinions

00:36:08.120 does this

00:36:08.720 make me

00:36:09.200 a liberal

00:36:10.400 am I

00:36:11.720 now a

00:36:12.280 feminist

00:36:12.940 am I

00:36:14.640 am I a

00:36:15.040 feminist

00:36:15.340 for saying

00:36:15.980 hey

00:36:16.420 men should

00:36:17.720 be allowed

00:36:18.120 to have

00:36:18.400 standards

00:36:19.000 men shouldn't

00:36:20.520 have to

00:36:21.380 enter a

00:36:21.740 contract

00:36:22.180 and enter

00:36:22.760 a system

00:36:23.260 that discriminates

00:36:24.140 against them

00:36:24.700 am I

00:36:26.060 is this

00:36:26.440 immoral

00:36:27.200 is this

00:36:29.080 wrong

00:36:29.620 okay so

00:36:35.980 now I

00:36:39.700 am going

00:36:40.160 to oh I

00:36:40.840 need to

00:36:41.100 get the

00:36:41.420 link

00:36:41.680 okay Glenn

00:36:44.180 if you're

00:36:44.820 in the

00:36:45.040 chat can

00:36:45.560 you give

00:36:45.840 this to

00:36:46.820 hold on

00:36:49.600 let me

00:36:53.880 find this

00:36:54.500 hold on

00:36:55.040 hold on

00:36:55.320 I gotta

00:36:55.520 get it

00:36:55.880 I'm gonna

00:36:57.660 show you

00:36:58.040 guys one

00:36:58.540 more thing

00:36:59.120 but in

00:36:59.480 the time

00:36:59.980 being

00:37:00.300 now mind

00:37:01.800 you guys

00:37:02.380 remember

00:37:02.900 and even

00:37:05.920 even if

00:37:06.900 you date

00:37:07.740 a chick

00:37:08.140 now I

00:37:08.780 mean how

00:37:09.080 many women

00:37:09.560 are coming

00:37:10.000 forward and

00:37:10.620 calling men

00:37:11.100 abusers

00:37:11.840 and all

00:37:13.080 they did

00:37:13.420 was date

00:37:14.260 all they

00:37:17.440 did was

00:37:17.820 date

00:37:18.280 and you

00:37:19.560 saw what

00:37:19.960 happened with

00:37:20.380 the Crowder

00:37:20.840 situation

00:37:21.520 I mean

00:37:22.920 now Crowder's

00:37:24.300 wife is on

00:37:24.900 record saying

00:37:25.860 that he

00:37:26.180 wasn't abusive

00:37:26.900 and I have

00:37:29.120 yet to see

00:37:29.580 her retract

00:37:29.940 I like

00:37:30.360 Candace Owens

00:37:31.120 right I

00:37:31.440 like her

00:37:31.780 this isn't a

00:37:32.300 personal thing

00:37:32.880 but she

00:37:33.120 was wrong

00:37:33.580 you know

00:37:34.740 they leaked

00:37:35.480 private ring

00:37:36.640 footage from

00:37:37.380 years ago

00:37:38.900 and called

00:37:41.080 him an

00:37:41.480 abuser

00:37:41.960 I mean

00:37:45.500 that man

00:37:46.060 worked his

00:37:46.560 entire life

00:37:47.640 to become

00:37:49.260 something

00:37:50.080 just have

00:37:51.600 a one

00:37:51.920 like

00:37:52.140 but okay

00:37:53.900 okay let

00:37:54.680 me send

00:37:55.400 this to

00:37:56.340 um

00:37:58.060 let me

00:38:00.220 send this

00:38:00.780 to

00:38:01.060 okay Glenn

00:38:04.360 send this

00:38:05.380 to your

00:38:05.920 friend

00:38:06.680 and then

00:38:07.880 you can

00:38:08.280 come on

00:38:08.700 after him

00:38:09.740 so are

00:38:16.240 there any

00:38:16.520 women in

00:38:16.940 the chat

00:38:17.400 are there

00:38:20.100 any are

00:38:20.440 there any

00:38:20.760 women in

00:38:21.160 the chat

00:38:21.460 again

00:38:21.780 I don't

00:38:23.040 say get

00:38:23.440 married

00:38:23.800 I don't

00:38:24.700 say don't

00:38:25.140 get married

00:38:25.560 I just

00:38:25.920 say objectively

00:38:26.660 it's a bad

00:38:27.420 deal

00:38:27.720 objectively

00:38:29.560 and objectively

00:38:30.520 there is

00:38:33.320 no way

00:38:34.100 that

00:38:36.760 there is

00:38:38.280 no fail

00:38:39.000 safe

00:38:39.500 and see

00:38:45.460 this is what

00:38:45.880 they keep

00:38:46.180 saying stop

00:38:46.720 pretending that

00:38:47.540 you're not

00:38:47.920 giving advice

00:38:48.680 okay I'll

00:38:51.240 give my

00:38:51.560 one piece

00:38:52.520 of advice

00:38:53.020 is a

00:38:53.360 prenup

00:38:53.680 I do

00:38:54.020 give that

00:38:54.540 I do

00:38:54.920 say look

00:38:55.360 guys maybe

00:38:55.920 you should

00:38:56.180 get a

00:38:56.440 prenup

00:38:56.860 but

00:38:57.740 overall guys

00:39:00.180 you're

00:39:00.420 responsible

00:39:00.980 for your

00:39:01.460 own lives

00:39:02.040 I can't

00:39:04.580 tell you if

00:39:05.080 the woman

00:39:05.440 you're with

00:39:06.220 is worthy

00:39:06.800 or not

00:39:07.260 I don't

00:39:07.700 know

00:39:07.980 you gotta

00:39:09.040 vet her

00:39:09.340 yourself

00:39:09.820 I'm just

00:39:11.340 they said

00:39:13.980 he was

00:39:14.320 verbally

00:39:14.840 abusive

00:39:15.360 I mean

00:39:18.580 come on

00:39:19.040 should we

00:39:19.360 go through

00:39:19.780 it again

00:39:20.300 really

00:39:21.960 okay

00:39:22.400 let me

00:39:22.820 you know

00:39:23.020 what

00:39:23.200 I'm gonna

00:39:24.040 I'm gonna

00:39:24.340 go through

00:39:24.700 this clip

00:39:25.160 again

00:39:25.440 I'm gonna

00:39:26.420 go through

00:39:26.840 it

00:39:27.220 okay

00:39:27.500 again

00:39:27.880 again

00:39:28.220 nothing

00:39:28.840 personal

00:39:29.340 to Candace

00:39:29.820 I just

00:39:30.120 think she

00:39:30.420 was wrong

00:39:30.800 on this

00:39:31.120 one

00:39:31.360 all right

00:39:31.840 um

00:39:33.040 could you

00:39:33.700 all right

00:39:33.980 could you

00:39:34.220 show my

00:39:34.580 screen

00:39:34.920 so this

00:39:36.740 was the

00:39:37.160 verbal abuse

00:39:38.040 and this

00:39:38.580 is the

00:39:38.840 reaction

00:39:39.360 okay

00:39:39.740 from

00:39:40.560 Christians

00:39:41.460 from

00:39:43.520 Christians

00:39:44.200 okay

00:39:45.180 let me

00:39:47.060 okay so

00:39:55.760 what's

00:39:56.020 happening

00:39:56.320 here

00:39:56.540 she called

00:39:57.160 him

00:39:57.300 abusive

00:39:57.680 and cruel

00:39:58.160 because she

00:39:58.740 wants to

00:39:59.160 file a

00:39:59.500 divorce

00:39:59.740 I've seen

00:40:00.960 this a million

00:40:01.460 times what

00:40:02.020 they do is

00:40:02.440 they go to

00:40:02.760 the women's

00:40:03.200 shelter and

00:40:04.100 they go to

00:40:04.880 a divorce

00:40:05.600 attorney and

00:40:06.100 they tell

00:40:06.400 them to do

00:40:06.780 this they

00:40:07.460 get with

00:40:07.780 their friends

00:40:08.240 they start

00:40:08.640 labeling

00:40:08.980 everything as

00:40:09.620 abusive and

00:40:10.180 cruel

00:40:10.360 everything

00:40:11.340 everything

00:40:11.740 everything

00:40:12.120 you could

00:40:12.400 be a

00:40:12.620 housewife

00:40:13.260 in

00:40:14.440 a

00:40:15.360 multi

00:40:16.420 bajillionaire

00:40:17.340 with a

00:40:18.860 nanny

00:40:19.200 and now

00:40:20.540 do you

00:40:22.200 god damn

00:40:23.840 it

00:40:24.080 I just

00:40:24.940 sorry

00:40:25.860 okay

00:40:26.280 okay so

00:40:42.840 he's saying

00:40:43.420 he's saying

00:40:44.080 check I

00:40:44.840 mean you

00:40:45.100 have one

00:40:45.400 job go

00:40:45.880 get the

00:40:46.160 groceries

00:40:46.680 okay so

00:41:03.900 the first

00:41:04.480 thing the

00:41:05.220 first thing

00:41:06.120 traditional

00:41:07.580 conservatives

00:41:08.460 should say

00:41:10.240 is respect

00:41:11.140 and listen

00:41:11.720 to your

00:41:12.220 husband

00:41:12.600 and I'm

00:41:15.240 showing you

00:41:15.800 guys this

00:41:16.240 not to

00:41:16.720 shame them

00:41:17.360 because I

00:41:17.760 don't think

00:41:18.220 most of

00:41:18.600 them are

00:41:18.820 conscious of

00:41:19.500 it I

00:41:19.820 don't think

00:41:20.200 this is

00:41:20.540 like a

00:41:20.860 conscious

00:41:21.240 thing that

00:41:21.740 goes through

00:41:22.080 their head

00:41:22.380 I think

00:41:22.960 we've just

00:41:23.280 been so

00:41:23.740 conditioned

00:41:24.280 to always

00:41:25.620 take the

00:41:26.020 woman's

00:41:26.360 side we

00:41:26.640 never see

00:41:27.100 the other

00:41:27.420 point of

00:41:27.820 view okay

00:41:28.320 I'm not

00:41:29.660 this isn't

00:41:30.500 but that

00:41:32.460 should be the

00:41:32.940 first why

00:41:33.460 isn't she

00:41:33.880 listening to

00:41:34.440 her husband

00:41:34.840 don't you

00:41:36.080 believe in

00:41:36.560 deferring to

00:41:37.000 your husband's

00:41:37.520 authority no

00:41:38.240 no okay

00:41:38.940 so she's

00:41:47.720 saying I'm

00:41:48.260 not if you

00:41:48.940 if I can't

00:41:49.760 take your

00:41:50.060 car I'm

00:41:50.440 gonna go get

00:41:50.840 someone to

00:41:51.240 pick me up

00:41:51.780 or I'm

00:41:52.000 getting an

00:41:52.360 uber

00:41:52.740 why be

00:41:55.360 married why

00:41:56.380 be married

00:41:56.820 then go be

00:41:57.240 single

00:41:57.640 okay

00:42:00.000 Steven I

00:42:00.800 can't

00:42:02.280 feeling some

00:42:03.480 constraints

00:42:04.000 like I

00:42:05.400 can't

00:42:05.680 listen to

00:42:06.600 me

00:42:06.740 you want

00:42:07.620 to walk

00:42:07.840 out right

00:42:08.120 now

00:42:08.260 listen to

00:42:08.700 me I

00:42:08.920 can't go

00:42:09.240 to the

00:42:09.420 gym I

00:42:10.000 can't go

00:42:10.260 to my

00:42:10.440 parents I

00:42:11.260 can't call

00:42:11.600 my friends I

00:42:12.460 can't go I

00:42:12.980 can't be home

00:42:13.560 you're gonna

00:42:13.960 take the car and

00:42:14.520 leave me here

00:42:14.980 Hillary just

00:42:15.640 think of how

00:42:16.260 boxing you've

00:42:17.080 made me

00:42:17.460 what do you

00:42:17.900 need me to

00:42:18.260 pick up I'll

00:42:18.780 get it I'll

00:42:19.260 be back when

00:42:19.660 I'm back

00:42:20.040 no that

00:42:21.340 doesn't work

00:42:21.720 either you'll

00:42:22.360 be back when

00:42:22.740 you're back

00:42:23.000 it doesn't

00:42:23.300 work either

00:42:23.900 do you understand

00:42:26.420 the difference

00:42:26.760 between my life

00:42:27.440 being set to

00:42:28.320 the second and

00:42:28.940 you're going

00:42:29.180 back

00:42:29.580 on back

00:42:30.080 like really this

00:42:36.920 is emotional

00:42:37.560 abuse

00:42:38.180 truly

00:42:39.460 really

00:42:40.620 maybe

00:42:43.200 some of you

00:42:44.100 guys were

00:42:44.440 never bullied

00:42:45.100 as kids

00:42:45.680 and it shows

00:42:46.400 it's like

00:42:46.860 this is emotional

00:42:48.040 abuse

00:42:48.500 and this is

00:42:49.500 this is what

00:42:49.960 happens

00:42:50.440 and I'm so

00:42:51.740 I'm so tired

00:42:52.420 of seeing it

00:42:53.240 I'm so tired

00:42:54.840 of seeing this

00:42:55.380 everywhere

00:42:56.620 oh there she's

00:43:08.560 doing it again

00:43:09.020 not listening to

00:43:09.720 her husband

00:43:10.160 not a single

00:43:11.080 commentator

00:43:11.660 pointed this out

00:43:12.880 none of them

00:43:13.580 they just said

00:43:14.680 oh pearl

00:43:15.420 pearl pearl pearl

00:43:16.460 you're so mean

00:43:17.260 stop bullying

00:43:17.960 these women

00:43:18.580 da da da da da da

00:43:19.720 then why

00:43:20.480 why would you

00:43:21.580 leak ring footage

00:43:22.300 if I can't

00:43:22.780 comment on it

00:43:23.600 what the

00:43:24.720 I get so

00:43:28.720 irritated at

00:43:29.360 people that

00:43:29.740 make their

00:43:30.060 relationships

00:43:30.600 public

00:43:31.100 and then if

00:43:32.000 I say

00:43:32.400 anything

00:43:32.680 I'm the

00:43:32.960 best

00:43:33.120 all right

00:43:34.300 so see look

00:43:47.520 at now

00:43:47.800 he's mad

00:43:48.320 again

00:43:48.720 because I

00:43:50.240 think he's

00:43:50.800 clued into

00:43:51.260 what she's

00:43:51.780 doing or

00:43:52.320 something

00:43:52.600 because she's

00:43:53.120 saying your

00:43:53.480 abuse

00:43:54.020 what was

00:43:55.520 abusive

00:43:56.020 I'm just

00:43:58.640 so tired

00:43:59.060 of this

00:43:59.340 soft

00:43:59.740 watch it

00:44:00.920 watch it

00:44:02.260 so he's

00:44:02.620 saying watch

00:44:03.120 it because

00:44:03.560 he's talking

00:44:03.920 about the

00:44:04.200 abuse

00:44:04.700 like the

00:44:05.920 abuse

00:44:06.240 language

00:44:06.720 watch it

00:44:07.000 I'm gonna

00:44:08.340 let go

00:44:08.720 I'll get

00:44:09.060 what you

00:44:09.380 need me

00:44:09.660 again

00:44:09.940 and I

00:44:10.700 need some

00:44:11.360 space

00:44:11.800 we need

00:44:12.240 to just

00:44:12.520 talk and

00:44:12.840 be a

00:44:13.000 little bit

00:44:13.720 okay

00:44:14.180 I love

00:44:14.680 you

00:44:14.940 I love

00:44:16.840 you very

00:44:17.180 much

00:44:17.640 I don't

00:44:18.900 love you

00:44:19.300 that's the

00:44:19.700 big problem

00:44:20.120 I've never

00:44:21.040 received love

00:44:21.580 from you

00:44:21.820 and the fact

00:44:22.380 is when I

00:44:22.740 don't

00:44:22.900 okay so

00:44:23.040 what's he

00:44:23.420 what's he

00:44:23.780 saying he's

00:44:24.240 saying I've

00:44:24.520 never received

00:44:25.360 love from

00:44:25.940 you and

00:44:27.180 okay the

00:44:27.620 reason I'm

00:44:28.160 bringing this

00:44:28.620 up is this

00:44:29.080 happens in

00:44:29.800 conservative

00:44:30.620 communities all

00:44:31.480 the time

00:44:31.740 the women go

00:44:32.500 around say

00:44:32.940 abuse abuse

00:44:33.620 abuse it's

00:44:34.140 it's crazy

00:44:34.720 all he's

00:44:53.980 saying is is

00:44:54.840 is to listen

00:44:55.760 to me that's

00:44:56.420 all he's

00:44:56.780 saying he's

00:44:57.300 saying chick

00:44:57.800 chick listen

00:44:59.700 listen

00:45:00.340 a wife

00:45:01.460 work

00:45:02.040 no not

00:45:02.680 as a wife

00:45:03.140 I didn't say

00:45:03.520 as a wife

00:45:04.120 Hillary come

00:45:05.540 on now

00:45:05.880 I'm not going

00:45:06.360 to engage

00:45:06.680 I'm not going

00:45:07.160 to engage

00:45:07.420 anymore

00:45:07.740 I'm going

00:45:08.300 to go

00:45:08.580 I'll get

00:45:08.920 texting

00:45:09.260 that you

00:45:09.500 need

00:45:09.720 I'll get

00:45:10.060 you to

00:45:10.360 you

00:45:10.620 I love

00:45:15.560 you

00:45:15.860 I'm committed

00:45:17.360 to you

00:45:18.860 like really

00:45:47.980 abuse

00:45:48.720 abuse is

00:45:48.960 being told

00:45:49.520 to walk

00:45:50.160 the dogs

00:45:51.280 oh my

00:45:53.640 oh

00:45:54.140 I'm sorry

00:46:00.040 I get so

00:46:00.560 frustrated

00:46:01.140 guy I just

00:46:01.800 I just don't

00:46:02.640 know how

00:46:02.940 nobody else

00:46:03.900 saw this

00:46:04.460 I and

00:46:05.720 and the

00:46:06.120 reason is

00:46:06.820 is because

00:46:07.380 I watched

00:46:08.120 Crowder growing

00:46:08.860 up I

00:46:09.840 I used to

00:46:10.400 like love

00:46:11.020 watching him

00:46:11.700 I know how

00:46:12.260 much he

00:46:12.600 loved conservative

00:46:13.720 content I

00:46:14.960 I know how

00:46:15.520 much he

00:46:15.940 he just

00:46:17.400 loved you

00:46:18.480 know all

00:46:19.100 of that

00:46:19.500 stuff

00:46:19.860 and you

00:46:22.620 guys all

00:46:23.360 destroyed this

00:46:24.280 man's reputation

00:46:25.280 because you

00:46:26.380 all believe

00:46:27.020 women without a

00:46:27.780 second thought

00:46:28.260 and that's

00:46:28.560 really frustrating

00:46:29.560 to me

00:46:29.980 that's really

00:46:31.060 really frustrating

00:46:31.900 go to criminal

00:46:33.440 court chica

00:46:34.180 if you want me

00:46:34.900 to believe you

00:46:35.340 go to criminal

00:46:35.820 court show

00:46:36.360 them the

00:46:36.700 evidence and

00:46:37.100 come back

00:46:37.600 I know

00:46:39.420 what's going

00:46:39.820 on in

00:46:40.100 family court

00:46:40.640 none of you

00:46:41.380 chicks is this

00:46:42.040 is going to

00:46:42.360 get by me

00:46:42.940 none of you

00:46:43.960 all of you

00:46:44.740 chicks that

00:46:45.300 didn't file

00:46:45.780 a police

00:46:46.140 report sorry

00:46:46.800 don't believe

00:46:47.340 you don't

00:46:48.000 believe you

00:46:48.280 go to

00:46:48.520 criminal

00:46:48.760 court go

00:46:49.640 to criminal

00:46:50.020 court and

00:46:50.680 stop calling

00:46:51.160 everything emotional

00:46:51.980 abuse it's

00:46:53.080 just an argument

00:46:53.680 get over it

00:46:54.700 and we and

00:46:58.380 so now they

00:46:59.380 then this is

00:47:00.000 how women

00:47:00.480 lie they lie

00:47:01.300 in the craziest

00:47:01.920 way she'll

00:47:02.760 put as the

00:47:05.400 Crowder's head

00:47:05.940 inside and I

00:47:06.600 showed this on

00:47:07.220 a different live

00:47:07.860 stream Stephen

00:47:09.960 angry and angry

00:47:10.840 and by his own

00:47:11.380 admission screams I

00:47:12.220 will F you up at

00:47:12.860 his pregnant wife

00:47:13.500 Hillary who's

00:47:13.940 then flees

00:47:14.500 their home

00:47:14.900 okay and

00:47:16.460 then right

00:47:16.900 after he

00:47:17.460 said I'll

00:47:17.860 I'll F you

00:47:18.700 up because

00:47:19.000 she kept

00:47:19.320 calling him

00:47:19.720 abusive or

00:47:20.380 something like

00:47:20.920 that and he

00:47:21.240 was like oh

00:47:21.540 sorry sorry

00:47:22.380 very different

00:47:23.960 than a threat

00:47:24.600 right after

00:47:26.940 Hillary said

00:47:29.180 she by her

00:47:29.860 own admission

00:47:30.360 that he wasn't

00:47:31.200 abusive she said

00:47:32.060 this in court

00:47:32.600 and nobody's

00:47:34.400 issued a

00:47:34.760 retraction

00:47:35.260 yet we

00:47:37.260 we ruined

00:47:37.880 this guy's

00:47:38.380 reputation and

00:47:39.600 it wasn't just

00:47:40.140 her it was

00:47:40.520 like Lauren

00:47:41.340 it was a bunch

00:47:42.000 of them without

00:47:42.900 a second thought

00:47:43.700 and just I

00:47:44.820 was so

00:47:45.140 disappointed as

00:47:46.000 a viewer

00:47:46.400 anyways I

00:47:47.680 I get really

00:47:48.320 wired up like

00:47:49.480 riled up about

00:47:51.240 that but it

00:47:51.820 shows this guy

00:47:52.460 did everything

00:47:53.020 right he got

00:47:54.580 married he found

00:47:55.300 a Christian girl

00:47:56.020 in church what

00:47:56.600 else was he

00:47:57.060 supposed to

00:47:57.640 do you know

00:47:59.040 is is the

00:47:59.760 guy on zoom

00:48:00.580 yet yeah

00:48:02.500 oh he is

00:48:03.060 okay okay so

00:48:04.380 now a lot of

00:48:05.760 you guys I tell

00:48:06.420 these stories and

00:48:07.240 everybody thinks

00:48:07.960 I'm just making

00:48:08.600 them up pearl

00:48:09.820 pearl pearl you

00:48:10.920 are just you're

00:48:11.960 making this stuff

00:48:12.840 up

00:48:13.700 you're you're

00:48:14.840 just none of

00:48:16.720 this is real I

00:48:18.380 mean men should

00:48:19.140 just go to

00:48:19.720 church find a

00:48:21.280 good Christian

00:48:22.220 chick and just

00:48:23.020 be godlike and

00:48:24.120 lead and if

00:48:24.640 anything goes

00:48:25.200 wrong in the

00:48:25.700 marriage they

00:48:26.500 should have just

00:48:27.040 led better why

00:48:28.620 didn't you lead

00:48:29.240 better so today I

00:48:31.260 have a guy who

00:48:32.800 was divorced and

00:48:34.400 I'm just gonna ask

00:48:35.200 him why he didn't

00:48:35.980 lead better you

00:48:37.260 know let's let's

00:48:38.820 welcome I have a

00:48:39.940 special guest would

00:48:41.720 you could you bring

00:48:42.340 up the how do I

00:48:43.920 do it I don't

00:48:44.520 know how to do

00:48:44.960 it sorry sorry

00:48:49.720 guys sorry oh

00:48:51.640 pastor Nick you

00:48:54.880 know am I evil

00:48:57.220 for this am I

00:48:59.180 just the anti

00:49:00.100 marriage feminist

00:49:01.500 belief who's down

00:49:03.200 a dark evil path

00:49:05.420 yeah is that me

00:49:07.320 yeah but let me

00:49:10.080 let me go to

00:49:10.820 pastor Nick

00:49:11.740 yeah is he up is

00:49:14.140 he ready okay

00:49:15.040 pastor Nick just

00:49:16.560 lead better

00:49:17.240 um hello hello

00:49:22.640 how are you I'm

00:49:25.560 doing good who is

00:49:27.740 just lead better

00:49:28.680 right who who

00:49:30.380 are who else is

00:49:31.160 on just love

00:49:31.760 me oh that's

00:49:33.200 Steve okay hi

00:49:34.920 Steve

00:49:35.320 hello yeah you

00:49:37.920 deal with Nick

00:49:38.460 first okay or is

00:49:40.060 he related to the

00:49:40.940 story too or no

00:49:42.000 we just know each

00:49:43.780 other okay I just

00:49:45.520 didn't know because I

00:49:46.100 was gonna put him

00:49:46.820 backstage until you

00:49:47.980 were done but I

00:49:49.100 didn't know if he's

00:49:49.780 fine okay I have

00:49:51.300 similar stories okay

00:49:52.880 okay I'll put you

00:49:54.320 on next is that

00:49:55.200 all right could you

00:49:55.660 put him backstage for

00:49:56.680 a second blessing okay

00:49:57.880 thank you okay so um

00:50:01.420 yeah so why didn't I

00:50:02.800 wanted to see if you

00:50:03.720 could tell the story

00:50:05.200 you told me on the

00:50:07.360 phone the other day

00:50:08.360 and just I wanted to

00:50:09.700 know it's all your

00:50:10.720 fault you should have

00:50:11.380 just led better so I'll

00:50:12.440 just start with that

00:50:13.100 you should have led

00:50:15.240 better you should have

00:50:15.920 loved more really is

00:50:17.400 what they say you

00:50:18.260 know you weren't

00:50:18.960 loving enough you

00:50:20.580 didn't sacrifice

00:50:21.340 enough you know you

00:50:22.480 you know the

00:50:24.420 Ephesians 5 just beat

00:50:25.680 the men over the head

00:50:26.480 with that you're just

00:50:27.120 not loving enough you

00:50:27.980 needed to be a servant

00:50:28.760 leader oh yeah so so

00:50:31.900 so why didn't you

00:50:32.860 love her that I did

00:50:35.540 whatever I could yeah

00:50:36.940 I think it ended up

00:50:37.800 actually help furthering

00:50:39.060 the destruction of my

00:50:40.060 marriage really so

00:50:42.340 yeah so okay so tell

00:50:44.200 them first

00:50:45.240 how you met your

00:50:46.440 wife your ex-wife

00:50:47.740 because that's like

00:50:48.800 the first thing

00:50:49.340 they'll say is you

00:50:49.960 just should have

00:50:50.440 vetted better so

00:50:51.720 where did you meet

00:50:52.440 her okay I met her

00:50:54.240 online and she was a

00:50:56.460 Christian woman she

00:50:57.280 had a pass I gave her

00:50:59.000 a few theological

00:50:59.760 questions that she had

00:51:00.840 to pass and then I

00:51:01.980 wanted to meet her and

00:51:02.820 I met her family her

00:51:04.140 dad was an elder in

00:51:05.020 the church she was

00:51:05.800 Presbyterian reformed

00:51:06.960 Presbyterian like I

00:51:07.680 was reformed

00:51:08.200 Presbyterian very

00:51:09.600 conservative very

00:51:10.540 traditional that's how

00:51:12.960 we met okay

00:51:15.020 she was way into

00:51:17.480 me it was crazy like

00:51:19.480 now that you think

00:51:20.820 about it yeah she

00:51:22.240 was way into me at

00:51:23.880 first so so she

00:51:26.340 wanted to sorry what

00:51:28.660 how old was she she

00:51:30.900 was uh 22 okay so

00:51:32.760 22 church girl okay

00:51:35.180 yep so then what

00:51:39.180 happened next 22

00:51:40.220 well she was way into

00:51:42.160 me she wanted to

00:51:42.900 rush her to the

00:51:43.340 marriage it was all

00:51:44.540 too agreeable at first

00:51:45.600 she said she was a

00:51:46.440 virgin but you know

00:51:47.940 there's no evidence of

00:51:49.140 that granted there's

00:51:50.020 reason there could be

00:51:50.800 reasons for that but

00:51:51.800 interesting a few months

00:51:52.960 into our marriage it

00:51:54.420 should have been like

00:51:55.100 the huge thing to get

00:51:57.460 out but I didn't I

00:51:59.180 found uh Facebook

00:52:00.220 messages of sexting

00:52:01.540 while we had been

00:52:02.260 engaged with random

00:52:03.240 dudes and ex-boyfriends

00:52:04.660 and suggesting that

00:52:07.380 she was not had been

00:52:08.600 doing things um you

00:52:11.280 know the elder said

00:52:12.120 you just need to

00:52:12.680 forgive her you just

00:52:13.460 need to love her and

00:52:14.080 forgive her move

00:52:14.700 forward I did but

00:52:17.320 then it gets worse

00:52:20.280 um she didn't want the

00:52:25.740 sex stopped pretty much

00:52:28.080 stopped it's kind of

00:52:28.880 like that oh every once

00:52:30.220 in a while once in every

00:52:31.340 month or two and you

00:52:33.780 know whenever I try to

00:52:34.620 insist on something to

00:52:35.740 lead the family well she'd

00:52:37.140 call up the church

00:52:39.120 elders call up her dad

00:52:40.420 she'd try to jump up the

00:52:41.920 hierarchy to smash me

00:52:43.560 down

00:52:43.920 and um so basically

00:52:50.360 the church leaders

00:52:50.980 would white knight for

00:52:51.920 for a long time this

00:52:53.900 even included one of my

00:52:54.880 former mentors um and

00:52:57.780 soon about the same

00:52:59.060 time she started beating

00:52:59.960 me um and then it

00:53:02.800 progressed to threats to

00:53:03.780 kill herself with knives

00:53:05.600 and holding a gun to her

00:53:06.660 head but then she would

00:53:08.380 also beat herself up

00:53:09.620 hitting things with her

00:53:10.860 head and hands and then

00:53:12.180 she would call me

00:53:13.500 abusive for trying to

00:53:17.040 stop her from hitting me

00:53:18.220 like I'd have to

00:53:19.160 restrain her just to get

00:53:20.140 out of the room um then

00:53:22.700 I gained weight so that

00:53:23.660 probably didn't help

00:53:24.340 either I tried working

00:53:27.000 through my marriage with

00:53:28.220 others for years I'd get

00:53:29.660 better I'd mature she'd

00:53:32.420 still do the same crap

00:53:33.760 then around 2020 um she

00:53:37.080 started getting called out

00:53:38.180 by friends and family for

00:53:40.220 her deceit and lies yet I

00:53:42.240 still protected and

00:53:43.320 believed her she started

00:53:45.260 losing it with the kids

00:53:46.420 family was warning about

00:53:48.480 her uh about trying to

00:53:50.860 steal from my grandmother

00:53:52.300 and the inheritance my

00:53:55.340 friends turned on me when I

00:53:56.860 started to fight against

00:53:57.760 feminism in the church and

00:53:59.860 I was being attacked as a

00:54:01.080 pastor in the orthodox

00:54:02.140 presbyterian church for my

00:54:04.200 stances standing up for my

00:54:05.600 friends and standing against

00:54:07.460 you know feminism well my

00:54:11.660 grandmother passed away the

00:54:13.800 inheritance eventually came

00:54:15.200 in all of a sudden she had

00:54:17.560 a privacy screen on her

00:54:18.800 phone she would hold the

00:54:21.100 phone away from me so I

00:54:22.160 couldn't see it she would

00:54:23.840 put her phone you know face

00:54:25.060 down um when she'd go to

00:54:28.100 sleep then she started to

00:54:30.380 even of course there's

00:54:31.900 virtually no sex during this

00:54:33.160 time but she would now

00:54:36.220 refuse to even sleep in the

00:54:37.520 same bed or room with me and

00:54:41.660 she would go on trips without

00:54:43.160 me she would delete her

00:54:44.420 messages she would always

00:54:45.340 hang up she would hang up

00:54:46.440 quickly when I sometimes

00:54:48.140 came into the house or the

00:54:49.200 room

00:54:49.460 and then she was involved

00:54:53.020 with nasty women at women's

00:54:54.860 bible study groups which I

00:54:56.000 call gossip groups with

00:54:58.180 pastor's wife that seemed to

00:55:00.200 despise me

00:55:00.960 wait so she met a lot of

00:55:02.860 these friends at the women's

00:55:04.180 groups at church

00:55:05.340 oh yeah the churchly ladies

00:55:07.640 wow

00:55:08.400 pastors why didn't you but

00:55:10.120 why didn't you watch her

00:55:11.120 friends I thought you were

00:55:12.360 just supposed to just lead

00:55:13.260 better

00:55:13.640 I thought I was doing the

00:55:15.960 right thing I wanted her to

00:55:16.940 have godly friends

00:55:18.000 yeah

00:55:18.520 no you should have just led

00:55:20.200 more

00:55:20.600 sorry

00:55:21.900 well

00:55:22.180 I started to catch on but

00:55:24.560 it was too late at that

00:55:25.400 point

00:55:25.660 yeah

00:55:26.060 it's not like you can

00:55:27.880 monitor every conversation

00:55:29.280 she has

00:55:30.100 no

00:55:31.740 and then

00:55:34.140 I got counsel from the

00:55:36.240 church we started doing

00:55:37.120 counseling then she didn't

00:55:38.040 like the counseling we're

00:55:38.900 doing she admitted to the

00:55:40.480 pastor that we're going to

00:55:41.420 counseling his fellow

00:55:42.240 presbyter in that presbytery

00:55:43.480 in South Dakota she admitted

00:55:45.460 to beating me and then

00:55:47.500 about a month probably about a

00:55:50.080 month or two later the

00:55:51.260 incident happened where I was

00:55:53.540 trying to do the advice that

00:55:56.460 the pastor told us to do not

00:55:59.260 to have sexual relations but to

00:56:01.640 be in sexually intimate but not

00:56:03.400 he suggested slowly try to

00:56:07.120 gradually to get back into

00:56:08.580 that and I made an advance

00:56:11.420 suggesting what the pastor

00:56:13.320 suggested to do she rejected

00:56:15.400 me I got pissed I told her I'm

00:56:18.060 out of here get the F out of

00:56:19.200 the car I drove about an hour

00:56:21.620 and a half away to go fishing it

00:56:22.960 was too cold so I didn't have the

00:56:24.860 right equipment to go fishing

00:56:25.820 this is South Dakota it's end of

00:56:27.440 November it's cold

00:56:28.400 so I'm there I pray a little

00:56:31.420 but I chill out I come back I'm

00:56:32.980 calm in my right mind there's a

00:56:34.360 car I drive by there's a car

00:56:36.840 sitting at the house and the

00:56:39.780 lights are on and I'm like

00:56:40.920 what's going on here I didn't

00:56:43.000 know at the time apparently it

00:56:44.520 wasn't another guy but found out

00:56:46.180 later but at that time I didn't

00:56:47.700 know but I'm like this is weird

00:56:49.980 so I just wait for them to leave

00:56:52.140 I come in

00:56:53.780 and she's got this weird smile on

00:56:59.520 her face and I have alarms going

00:57:00.800 off in my head

00:57:01.560 so I took the phone as we had an

00:57:05.560 agreement to check each other's

00:57:06.700 phone whenever we wanted she

00:57:08.320 flipped out on me she started

00:57:10.660 hitting me trying to tackle me

00:57:12.400 the works as she usually did and I

00:57:16.340 did what I usually did I got the

00:57:18.360 hell away from her I ran to the

00:57:20.420 church and locked the doors

00:57:21.580 she didn't I don't think she had a

00:57:25.340 key to the church

00:57:25.960 and while I was running away she

00:57:30.260 started screaming help help help I'm

00:57:32.000 like what is wrong with you

00:57:33.460 right apparently I think well I

00:57:35.980 found out as I was going through a

00:57:37.360 phone

00:57:37.700 that she had been trying to

00:57:41.280 construct a history of abuse

00:57:43.120 trying to establish a history of

00:57:46.560 abuse with like her pastor

00:57:49.000 friends and some of my what I

00:57:51.400 thought were my friends she was

00:57:53.900 telling them things that were not

00:57:56.240 entirely true or not true at all

00:57:57.940 twisting the facts they try to tell

00:58:00.380 her to get out of they told her I'm

00:58:02.540 abusive and need to leave

00:58:04.500 meanwhile also found text where she's

00:58:07.540 trying to get me for like marital

00:58:08.740 rape

00:58:09.140 or grape

00:58:10.040 well I should probably shouldn't say

00:58:11.420 that online but

00:58:12.080 where she was basically she I think

00:58:17.260 I'm assuming it was about me where

00:58:18.800 she was asking about a rape kit to a

00:58:20.480 friend in like Louisiana and uh and

00:58:24.100 her friend said that's not how it

00:58:25.940 works she consented to this it's not

00:58:28.320 rape you can do okay do you say

00:58:29.960 great do you say great do you say

00:58:31.540 great when you say great yeah sorry

00:58:33.360 yeah sorry yeah it's okay so she said

00:58:35.660 you could do better

00:58:36.380 yeah her friend told her you could do

00:58:39.340 better

00:58:39.640 yeah and so like they were saying that

00:58:45.160 because I was like why aren't you we

00:58:46.520 being intimate and her friends are

00:58:47.800 saying that I'm being abusive for

00:58:49.200 saying that

00:58:49.920 it's wrong for her to refuse

00:58:51.980 continually refuse sexual intimacy

00:58:54.060 which she was doing

00:58:54.820 right

00:58:55.420 and I was like okay so police come in

00:58:59.240 they invade the church somehow get in a

00:59:01.040 locked door

00:59:01.600 I have lasers pointed on my chest

00:59:04.500 and I'm thinking I'm gonna die

00:59:06.260 I'm thinking they're gonna kill she

00:59:08.120 got the police to come to the church

00:59:10.260 yeah they came into the church

00:59:12.600 somehow they got a warrant from the

00:59:13.920 Jezebel judge the one I defied

00:59:15.460 yeah they invaded the church I had

00:59:19.580 lasers pointed at my chest and I they

00:59:21.980 wanted me to turn my back to them and

00:59:23.520 all this stuff I wasn't gonna do it

00:59:24.840 I said no I'm just staying still you

00:59:27.480 can do what you need I'm not moving

00:59:28.920 because I didn't want to I could be

00:59:30.920 spastic and I didn't want to make any

00:59:32.340 sudden moves they had lasers on me

00:59:34.100 I don't want to turn my back I don't

00:59:35.400 get shot so they hauled me off to jail

00:59:39.240 I get out of jail I find out the next

00:59:41.900 day that I had $40,000 missing from my

00:59:46.300 inheritance and had been taken from

00:59:48.920 like the day that she I wrongly gave her

00:59:51.720 the check to deposit to set up an

00:59:53.840 account in my name $20,000 about was

00:59:57.780 missing missing initially then like

00:59:59.500 three months later another transaction

01:00:01.920 and a few months later to another

01:00:03.680 transaction transferred to some account

01:00:05.520 that I don't know where it is

01:00:06.720 Wow so when did when did you was there

01:00:14.260 more did you then I'm guessing you guys

01:00:16.280 started filing for divorce one of you

01:00:18.340 you know like um

01:00:22.520 she took the kids over a thousand miles away

01:00:28.100 to Louisiana while I was in South Dakota

01:00:30.360 oh wow

01:00:33.080 yeah and then I had the whole pending

01:00:36.360 criminal trial and I was like I just

01:00:38.460 moved to Texas and I was working in the

01:00:41.180 oil and gas field and the lawyer said I

01:00:44.340 don't think you really want anything to

01:00:45.460 do with my case he said look just plead

01:00:48.140 to disorderly conduct nobody really cares

01:00:50.480 about this and not thinking I did that

01:00:53.660 because at that point it had been like

01:00:56.120 five months since I even like seen or

01:00:57.720 touched my kids I just wanted it to be

01:00:59.280 over and how tell the audience because I

01:01:01.620 don't think you mentioned it how many

01:01:02.980 kids you had I have seven children so

01:01:06.140 you you had seven kids for like what

01:01:08.520 else could you have you found a girl in

01:01:10.140 church the same church you had seven

01:01:13.260 children with her you know you you even

01:01:15.900 forgave like cheating at one point at

01:01:18.680 the beginning it sounded like during the

01:01:20.160 engagement and you forgave that you

01:01:22.800 overlooked that and now you you have a

01:01:26.520 court case for so she got you on

01:01:29.260 disorderly conduct for running away from

01:01:32.040 her when she was hitting you my

01:01:34.300 understanding it right you have women

01:01:35.780 judge the whole circuit in South Dakota

01:01:37.360 is made up of women judges you can't

01:01:39.000 yeah I don't think so women judges yeah

01:01:41.560 makes sense okay so I just wanted it to

01:01:45.860 end I wanted to see my kids and then

01:01:47.520 you had it so then at that point you

01:01:48.800 hadn't seen your kids in six months

01:01:50.320 they were a thousand miles away and I'm

01:01:53.240 sure and eight months total to finally

01:01:55.020 see them in person Wow and I'm sure she

01:01:57.040 told everyone in the community you were

01:01:58.680 just an abuser oh yeah oh yeah she'd

01:02:01.620 been she'd been constructing that before

01:02:03.380 it happened I've heard that a lot I've

01:02:06.340 heard that a lot where they'll though the

01:02:08.820 last guy interviewed with that they did

01:02:10.520 she she did it at school so because like

01:02:13.640 they're more involved in the community

01:02:15.320 that's I guess what they'll do because

01:02:17.200 they just have more time I guess well

01:02:20.020 well she had already had contacts with

01:02:21.920 like other leaders in the community

01:02:23.240 there and back home she was to tell them

01:02:26.480 all about me some were police officers

01:02:28.400 one was the chief of the police one was

01:02:33.180 another head pat couple other head

01:02:34.480 pastors and so I was deeply

01:02:39.800 so then like what's your so then after

01:02:42.720 eight months you went to court I'm

01:02:45.780 no I just had no lawyer represent me

01:02:47.740 oh okay so I'm going to go to court

01:02:51.440 again because I purposely violated the

01:02:53.560 order order of the judge where she said

01:02:57.540 I can't I can't even like she extended

01:03:01.280 the like do not contact because I wanted

01:03:02.920 to like she extended the do not contact

01:03:05.920 so I still couldn't see my kids basically

01:03:07.600 and then she still said I couldn't have

01:03:10.400 like any alcohol I'm like wait I'm a

01:03:12.460 minister of the Lord Jesus Christ uh the

01:03:14.760 sacraments are bread and wine and I'm

01:03:16.760 going to do that I don't care what you

01:03:18.460 say I'm going to take it uh if I need

01:03:20.560 to I'm going to serve it and you know

01:03:23.620 they do not have the rights to to usurp

01:03:26.720 the crown rights of the Lord Jesus

01:03:27.900 Christ so that's the Presbyterian in me

01:03:30.460 we were very uh defiant about those

01:03:32.760 things so so I purposely defied the the

01:03:36.100 order of the judge and email to several

01:03:38.340 ministers I got two weeks in jail for

01:03:41.160 that you went two weeks in jail for

01:03:43.560 serving oh yeah I reached 30 people

01:03:46.280 it was good

01:03:47.060 no that's actually so she there but

01:03:51.780 that's the thing they try to take your

01:03:53.160 livelihood it's like you obviously loved

01:03:55.900 being a minister and so that's oh yeah

01:03:58.300 I admitted the ministry in September so

01:04:00.460 you what I'm no longer a minister I'm

01:04:02.920 no longer a minister but I still help

01:04:04.740 people so oh wow how is this um affected

01:04:08.440 has it affected your faith at all

01:04:11.160 I almost became an atheist a few months

01:04:13.620 ago yeah I could imagine especially

01:04:17.460 when you're going to church leaders and

01:04:19.000 then like that's the response they're

01:04:20.880 getting and the ones that you think

01:04:23.180 that your friends are the ones telling

01:04:24.560 you you're in sin you did wrong you you

01:04:28.500 need to move to Louisiana be close to

01:04:30.640 her and your kids I'm like you know all

01:04:32.340 my family's like saying do not do that

01:04:33.840 she will throw you in jail again

01:04:35.180 wow so when's the last time you've seen

01:04:39.240 your kids now so I now I'm able to get

01:04:42.360 them one weekend a month so I saw them

01:04:45.500 last weekend wow how old's your oldest

01:04:49.440 she's 10 does she have any like inkling

01:04:53.780 that the mom's crazy from what I've seen

01:04:56.220 they kind of figured out around like 12

01:04:58.000 maybe that the mom's kind of nuts I don't

01:05:02.260 know yeah I think the younger one sees

01:05:05.780 it but unfortunately I think the younger

01:05:07.660 one the younger daughter so that's the

01:05:09.300 second oldest one she's unfortunately I

01:05:12.520 start seeing the same crazy behavior in

01:05:14.440 her late lately so

01:05:16.280 so I guess were there any like red flags

01:05:25.360 and just because there's younger guys

01:05:26.660 watching this like what do you think

01:05:29.180 there was anything you could have did to

01:05:30.660 prevent the situation in hindsight

01:05:32.300 or like I wish I had the knowledge yeah

01:05:38.420 that I have now

01:05:39.760 I wish I read Rich Cooper's and Rolla

01:05:45.460 Tomasi's book before I got married yeah I

01:05:49.280 would have prevented a lot of this stuff I

01:05:51.080 would have never gotten with this woman

01:05:52.800 they could have prevented a lot of things

01:05:56.880 but sometimes you don't know what you

01:05:59.040 don't know and you learn the hard way how

01:06:01.180 much money did you lose total

01:06:03.160 the inheritance I'm still trying to figure

01:06:07.940 that out in court so that's 40 and I

01:06:11.680 probably spent I'm still going through

01:06:14.220 the process so it's been over a year

01:06:17.160 now I've probably spent with all with

01:06:21.500 all the different lawyers and everything

01:06:23.120 probably another I'd say 40,000

01:06:26.820 wow it's almost 100k I mean that guys

01:06:30.380 the app to put that in context the

01:06:31.920 average person makes like 45k a year

01:06:33.880 that's like two years salary so yeah

01:06:37.940 um well thank you for coming on and

01:06:41.240 telling your story is there any other

01:06:42.680 part that we missed that's like

01:06:44.040 important or anything you want to say

01:06:45.620 to like the guys watching

01:06:46.840 fetch your women carefully

01:06:50.840 don't rush

01:06:54.180 okay I'm gonna we're gonna do the

01:06:57.220 religion part later but I'm gonna bring

01:06:59.160 on the

01:06:59.680 the next guy

01:07:00.860 um but thank you thank you

01:07:04.160 thanks for having me

01:07:05.340 um someone said I went spent 200k I'm

01:07:08.420 sorry what was your name

01:07:09.440 I I can't hear him it might be us though

01:07:15.780 let me see

01:07:16.340 so everyone keeps saying that because

01:07:20.520 he's in good

01:07:21.160 you can hear me yeah one second I'm

01:07:23.320 gonna say one thing and I'm gonna let

01:07:24.480 you go

01:07:24.780 so everyone keeps saying that because

01:07:27.280 he's he's in good spirits you know or

01:07:29.540 he's like I keep seeing things in the

01:07:31.700 chat that he's

01:07:32.540 he's lying um

01:07:35.140 that

01:07:36.600 what are we sorry I'm reading random

01:07:40.100 stuff okay

01:07:40.540 um people keep saying that he's lying in

01:07:42.460 the chat because he has it written down

01:07:44.160 guys sometimes these court cases take

01:07:46.920 years

01:07:47.520 and there's so many details to these

01:07:50.140 stories that you have to kind of pick

01:07:51.920 you know what stuff you're even going to

01:07:54.260 talk about because generally when I talk to

01:07:56.240 guys there's so much we would be here

01:07:57.880 all day

01:07:58.280 um but yeah I yeah so um just just

01:08:04.520 because he's smiling that doesn't mean

01:08:05.880 he's not

01:08:06.400 anyways so I'm sorry what was your name

01:08:09.680 again

01:08:10.040 Steve Sandman

01:08:12.140 Steve was it

01:08:13.580 yes okay hi Steve welcome to the show

01:08:17.060 so um

01:08:17.960 I'm sorry I'm not overly familiar with

01:08:21.860 your story so are you involved in the

01:08:24.220 church too

01:08:24.960 uh no I'm just a guy I was trained as a

01:08:31.080 mechanical engineer worked in that

01:08:32.680 now I'm a truck driver I've been twice

01:08:35.220 divorced

01:08:35.760 both times were really

01:08:38.860 involved

01:08:40.320 okay

01:08:41.100 so

01:08:41.900 I I was accused twice of having bad

01:08:46.580 inclinations

01:08:47.740 towards

01:08:49.240 daughters

01:08:50.620 oh shit

01:08:53.020 never accused of doing anything

01:08:57.780 but bad inclinations

01:08:59.640 oh

01:09:01.280 so what what happened

01:09:03.860 well can we uh limit it to the second

01:09:07.680 round

01:09:08.080 that's yeah that's fine so what

01:09:10.180 happened

01:09:10.580 oh you know I got divorced the first

01:09:14.680 time it was horrendous

01:09:16.040 and lost touch with my two adopted

01:09:19.940 daughters and I haven't seen them for

01:09:21.400 15 years

01:09:22.260 and they're in their 20s now but you

01:09:26.800 know they've kind of bought the

01:09:28.600 narrative and they have to

01:09:30.000 to get along

01:09:31.380 so the second time around I was

01:09:35.040 involved

01:09:35.580 early on in the manuscript

01:09:38.000 and the red pill world

01:09:40.560 uh some of the early blogs

01:09:43.220 back around 2009

01:09:44.880 2010

01:09:45.640 and I married one of the women

01:09:48.360 who was active

01:09:49.480 on there

01:09:50.280 you know

01:09:52.460 vetted her pretty well

01:09:53.880 she had just become catholic

01:09:55.900 and we talked about

01:09:58.660 a lot of the serious things

01:10:00.680 she was from canada

01:10:02.060 so she immigrated here

01:10:05.040 and

01:10:05.600 even though we thought

01:10:07.280 you know

01:10:07.860 we both believed the state marriage

01:10:09.840 wasn't

01:10:10.460 perfect

01:10:11.820 I had to do it

01:10:13.520 so she could stay in the U.S.

01:10:17.080 and it worked pretty well

01:10:19.000 happily married

01:10:20.700 uh

01:10:21.800 since it was my second marriage

01:10:23.620 and her second marriage

01:10:24.940 and we were

01:10:26.620 catholic

01:10:27.360 uh

01:10:28.440 at one point

01:10:29.200 she said well

01:10:30.160 let's have this brother

01:10:31.360 sister type marriage

01:10:32.500 without sexual relations

01:10:34.060 okay

01:10:35.340 because we were going to go

01:10:37.120 through a moment

01:10:37.800 and

01:10:38.460 that

01:10:39.600 took more

01:10:40.740 than

01:10:41.200 more time

01:10:42.120 and effort

01:10:42.800 than

01:10:43.260 it didn't happen

01:10:45.220 immediately

01:10:45.620 and so things kind of

01:10:48.160 dissolved from there

01:10:49.380 but

01:10:49.720 even though we still got along

01:10:51.620 but never argued

01:10:52.920 then all of a sudden

01:10:54.660 um

01:10:56.860 she wanted separation

01:10:58.940 and divorce

01:10:59.760 and

01:11:01.480 I think

01:11:02.760 it was due

01:11:03.480 to past

01:11:04.520 guilt

01:11:05.100 over

01:11:06.660 and I

01:11:07.320 put guilt

01:11:08.080 in three areas

01:11:09.000 um

01:11:10.660 sexual partners

01:11:12.120 reproductive guilt

01:11:15.100 which is

01:11:16.000 abortion

01:11:16.600 or maybe things

01:11:18.100 you did

01:11:18.480 during pregnancy

01:11:19.340 and

01:11:20.820 uh

01:11:22.620 possibly a child

01:11:25.400 with someone

01:11:26.320 other than

01:11:26.860 your previous husband

01:11:27.860 those are the three

01:11:29.360 things that women

01:11:30.380 lie about

01:11:31.200 so anyway

01:11:32.720 we went through

01:11:33.660 a divorce

01:11:34.300 once she filed

01:11:36.400 didn't want

01:11:37.600 any talk

01:11:38.480 didn't want

01:11:39.440 any

01:11:40.120 discussions

01:11:41.320 with the priest

01:11:42.480 to try and resolve

01:11:43.420 things

01:11:43.780 which I really

01:11:44.780 wanted to do

01:11:45.520 um

01:11:47.580 eventually

01:11:49.080 uh

01:11:49.680 she was lying

01:11:50.360 about things

01:11:51.080 I went back

01:11:52.060 into marital home

01:11:53.100 which was

01:11:54.820 under her name

01:11:55.600 and I

01:11:58.520 was

01:11:59.160 eventually

01:12:00.000 charged

01:12:01.120 with

01:12:01.680 felony

01:12:02.560 burglary

01:12:03.400 for that

01:12:04.220 and I

01:12:06.020 eventually

01:12:06.460 pled it

01:12:06.940 down to

01:12:07.660 trespassing

01:12:08.980 but the point

01:12:10.040 was

01:12:10.560 by the law

01:12:12.220 doesn't matter

01:12:13.280 whose name

01:12:14.020 the house

01:12:14.600 is in

01:12:15.100 it's marital

01:12:16.440 property

01:12:17.200 during

01:12:18.100 the

01:12:19.320 until decided

01:12:20.660 otherwise

01:12:21.200 so I

01:12:22.720 trespassed

01:12:23.620 in

01:12:24.060 my own

01:12:25.000 house

01:12:25.400 well

01:12:26.120 it was

01:12:26.680 under her

01:12:27.080 name

01:12:27.380 but

01:12:27.620 I

01:12:28.020 paid

01:12:28.200 all the

01:12:28.500 taxes

01:12:28.900 everything

01:12:30.120 so

01:12:31.320 she had

01:12:32.080 two daughters

01:12:32.640 and

01:12:33.060 I think

01:12:34.080 it resolves

01:12:34.880 around

01:12:35.480 uh

01:12:36.480 uh

01:12:37.700 issues

01:12:38.460 there

01:12:39.460 and you

01:12:40.620 know what

01:12:40.980 before we go

01:12:42.060 any further

01:12:42.480 I choose

01:12:43.140 not to

01:12:43.760 hate

01:12:44.040 them

01:12:44.200 because

01:12:46.280 that's

01:12:46.640 poison

01:12:47.040 that just

01:12:47.520 poisons

01:12:47.920 myself

01:12:48.560 and so

01:12:50.020 I

01:12:51.840 don't

01:12:52.860 want

01:12:53.120 that

01:12:53.360 so

01:12:57.220 when did

01:12:57.880 she accuse

01:12:58.600 you of

01:12:59.560 I forgot

01:13:00.180 the exact

01:13:00.640 term

01:13:01.140 you used

01:13:01.840 but

01:13:02.200 something

01:13:02.820 with the

01:13:03.200 daughter

01:13:03.540 well

01:13:05.520 when we

01:13:05.880 first

01:13:06.260 started

01:13:07.920 getting

01:13:08.380 together

01:13:08.800 at the

01:13:09.620 time

01:13:09.900 she accused

01:13:10.640 me

01:13:10.980 of

01:13:11.360 talking

01:13:11.900 to

01:13:12.660 her

01:13:12.940 nine

01:13:13.400 year

01:13:13.620 old

01:13:13.860 daughter

01:13:14.280 about

01:13:15.340 grape

01:13:15.900 ten

01:13:17.840 years

01:13:18.300 nine

01:13:18.740 years

01:13:19.220 ago

01:13:19.460 at the

01:13:19.760 time

01:13:20.040 and it

01:13:21.960 was

01:13:22.120 absurd

01:13:22.600 it

01:13:23.080 didn't

01:13:23.240 even

01:13:23.440 make

01:13:23.660 sense

01:13:24.100 she

01:13:24.740 went

01:13:24.960 to

01:13:25.120 talk

01:13:25.360 to

01:13:25.500 a

01:13:25.800 priest

01:13:26.120 the

01:13:26.380 priest

01:13:26.620 reported

01:13:27.200 me

01:13:27.540 to

01:13:28.000 the

01:13:28.160 authorities

01:13:28.680 nobody

01:13:29.860 ever

01:13:30.420 investigated

01:13:31.340 the

01:13:31.900 priest

01:13:32.240 never

01:13:32.740 told me

01:13:33.320 about

01:13:33.640 it

01:13:33.880 I

01:13:34.520 found

01:13:34.840 out

01:13:35.060 later

01:13:35.480 I

01:13:36.340 wrote

01:13:36.640 to

01:13:36.840 the

01:13:37.020 bishop

01:13:37.320 saying

01:13:37.720 hey

01:13:37.960 I'd

01:13:38.260 like

01:13:38.480 an

01:13:38.660 investigation

01:13:39.260 here

01:13:39.900 what

01:13:40.540 happens

01:13:41.000 he

01:13:41.840 referred

01:13:42.260 it

01:13:42.480 to

01:13:42.880 the

01:13:43.440 head

01:13:45.320 pastor

01:13:45.800 the

01:13:46.120 head

01:13:46.360 priest

01:13:46.800 of

01:13:47.060 the

01:13:47.240 parish

01:13:48.440 nothing

01:13:49.100 happened

01:13:49.860 from

01:13:50.140 there

01:13:50.400 so

01:13:50.820 then

01:13:52.380 it

01:13:52.500 went

01:13:52.640 through

01:13:52.820 court

01:13:53.220 and

01:13:54.040 there

01:13:55.280 are

01:13:55.500 no

01:13:55.820 catholic

01:13:56.420 women

01:13:56.760 in

01:13:57.240 divorce

01:13:57.600 court

01:13:57.920 let me

01:13:58.340 tell

01:13:58.560 you

01:13:58.700 that

01:13:59.060 I've

01:14:00.300 seen

01:14:00.560 it

01:14:00.820 no

01:14:01.220 there's

01:14:01.580 no

01:14:01.800 catholics

01:14:02.480 are not

01:14:02.820 special

01:14:03.340 catholics

01:14:04.760 certain

01:14:04.940 because

01:14:05.120 michael

01:14:05.420 knowles

01:14:05.740 is

01:14:05.880 catholic

01:14:06.380 he's

01:14:06.760 saying

01:14:07.000 find

01:14:07.360 you

01:14:07.520 a

01:14:07.700 special

01:14:08.040 catholic

01:14:08.560 woman

01:14:08.900 yeah

01:14:10.500 right

01:14:10.840 hey

01:14:11.840 remember

01:14:12.400 uh

01:14:13.800 eve

01:14:14.320 was

01:14:14.820 without

01:14:15.200 sin

01:14:15.720 when

01:14:18.220 when

01:14:19.140 god

01:14:19.420 created

01:14:19.800 her

01:14:20.020 for

01:14:20.300 adam

01:14:21.000 it

01:14:21.660 was a

01:14:21.920 man

01:14:22.100 woman

01:14:22.380 at

01:14:22.560 that

01:14:22.760 time

01:14:23.040 but yet

01:14:23.760 she

01:14:24.020 rebelled

01:14:24.640 right

01:14:25.420 you know

01:14:26.560 is the

01:14:27.080 problem

01:14:27.380 with

01:14:27.640 women

01:14:27.980 hypergamy

01:14:29.040 or is it

01:14:30.200 rebellion

01:14:30.620 so how

01:14:35.060 much did

01:14:35.580 you end

01:14:36.060 up spending

01:14:36.700 in the

01:14:36.980 divorce

01:14:37.400 and did

01:14:38.560 you guys

01:14:38.840 have your

01:14:39.340 own kids

01:14:39.840 together

01:14:40.180 or no

01:14:40.600 no

01:14:41.520 so um

01:14:42.600 you said

01:14:43.100 when women

01:14:43.580 lie

01:14:44.140 it's about

01:14:44.960 you said

01:14:45.340 abortion

01:14:45.900 sexual

01:14:48.340 partners

01:14:48.840 and one

01:14:49.200 other thing

01:14:49.760 uh

01:14:51.460 possibly a

01:14:53.020 child

01:14:53.400 with uh

01:14:54.660 someone other

01:14:55.320 than the

01:14:55.700 previous

01:14:56.100 husband

01:14:56.760 okay

01:14:57.540 so and

01:14:58.500 you said

01:14:58.940 she had

01:14:59.280 guilt

01:14:59.620 from that

01:15:00.240 well

01:15:01.660 you know

01:15:02.360 she had

01:15:02.940 a child

01:15:04.240 born

01:15:05.080 premature

01:15:05.660 she

01:15:07.720 was poor

01:15:10.280 at the

01:15:10.700 time

01:15:11.000 born in

01:15:11.520 california

01:15:12.360 premature

01:15:13.200 probably cost

01:15:14.420 the state

01:15:14.760 of california

01:15:15.440 a million

01:15:15.860 dollars

01:15:16.420 when she

01:15:17.200 went in

01:15:17.780 she uh

01:15:20.460 they wanted

01:15:20.880 to do a

01:15:21.240 blood test

01:15:21.820 she refused

01:15:23.560 that

01:15:23.880 and said

01:15:25.040 well they

01:15:25.600 wanted to

01:15:25.940 do a

01:15:26.140 blood test

01:15:26.660 to see

01:15:26.980 if there

01:15:27.240 was drugs

01:15:27.680 in my

01:15:28.040 system

01:15:28.440 well

01:15:29.800 they

01:15:32.000 didn't

01:15:32.200 find any

01:15:32.680 drugs

01:15:33.040 because

01:15:33.260 they

01:15:33.400 didn't

01:15:33.600 do a

01:15:33.860 drug

01:15:34.060 test

01:15:34.440 right

01:15:35.380 and

01:15:36.680 so

01:15:37.900 okay

01:15:38.400 that was

01:15:38.840 her

01:15:39.020 excuse

01:15:39.360 so

01:15:39.760 do I

01:15:40.500 know

01:15:40.840 that

01:15:41.280 anything

01:15:41.620 happened

01:15:42.020 no

01:15:42.500 you have

01:15:44.120 to read

01:15:44.480 kind of

01:15:45.000 read the

01:15:45.380 tea leaves

01:15:46.020 when it

01:15:46.360 comes to

01:15:46.740 women

01:15:47.020 i believe

01:15:47.980 i believe

01:15:48.000 she was

01:15:48.740 honest

01:15:49.100 with me

01:15:49.500 about her

01:15:49.900 sexual

01:15:50.320 past

01:15:51.080 but you

01:15:53.120 know women

01:15:53.500 carry you

01:15:54.480 know these

01:15:54.880 things

01:15:55.440 causes guilt

01:15:57.280 and why do

01:15:58.960 women

01:15:59.400 uh

01:16:00.140 make false

01:16:02.000 grape claims

01:16:03.040 well it's

01:16:04.200 guilt so they

01:16:05.280 don't have to

01:16:05.780 take responsibility

01:16:06.860 dude is it

01:16:08.960 just limited to

01:16:09.840 those bad

01:16:10.440 women or

01:16:11.120 do is it

01:16:12.740 possible that

01:16:13.840 with the

01:16:14.360 history of

01:16:15.460 women these

01:16:16.980 days

01:16:17.360 who have

01:16:19.560 a past

01:16:20.120 there are

01:16:21.400 hidden

01:16:21.980 uh

01:16:23.820 hidden baggage

01:16:24.700 what would

01:16:28.100 you recommend

01:16:28.720 to got to

01:16:29.700 young guys

01:16:30.460 that want to

01:16:31.480 avoid that

01:16:32.040 kind of

01:16:32.320 situation

01:16:32.860 is there any

01:16:35.000 way to

01:16:35.280 prevent it

01:16:35.980 let me see

01:16:38.140 i made three

01:16:38.740 comments because

01:16:39.380 i watched your

01:16:40.160 interview with

01:16:41.180 uh

01:16:41.560 michael

01:16:42.140 knowles

01:16:43.840 uh

01:16:44.340 yeah find

01:16:45.100 a woman

01:16:45.560 okay they

01:16:46.500 always say

01:16:47.060 find a

01:16:47.420 religious

01:16:47.760 woman

01:16:48.140 find a

01:16:49.080 woman in

01:16:49.420 church

01:16:49.760 well okay

01:16:52.340 that's kind

01:16:53.220 of good

01:16:53.600 but more

01:16:54.960 importantly find

01:16:55.880 a woman that

01:16:56.660 can be

01:16:57.540 led

01:16:58.120 so that's

01:17:01.560 my first

01:17:01.980 thing and

01:17:02.660 then figure

01:17:03.220 out that

01:17:03.660 there could

01:17:04.280 be these

01:17:04.880 sexual or

01:17:06.200 these this

01:17:08.000 hidden baggage

01:17:08.940 and guilt

01:17:11.280 can really

01:17:11.980 drive a

01:17:12.620 woman to

01:17:13.160 do things

01:17:14.140 because she

01:17:14.480 doesn't want

01:17:15.240 to be

01:17:15.580 accountable

01:17:16.280 she has

01:17:17.420 shame

01:17:17.820 what would

01:17:18.600 happen if

01:17:19.160 someone found

01:17:20.200 out in

01:17:22.080 in the church

01:17:22.700 atmosphere or

01:17:23.500 whatever

01:17:23.740 that's why

01:17:24.900 sometimes

01:17:25.720 religious or

01:17:26.840 even catholic

01:17:27.580 women could

01:17:28.080 be worse

01:17:28.800 because they

01:17:30.120 need an

01:17:30.560 excuse to

01:17:32.140 say man

01:17:32.800 bad

01:17:33.160 and then

01:17:36.600 you know

01:17:37.360 your your

01:17:38.360 idea of a

01:17:39.060 prenuptial

01:17:39.640 agreement

01:17:40.040 and michael

01:17:42.160 knowl said

01:17:42.640 no prenup

01:17:43.400 well let's

01:17:45.400 find a

01:17:45.720 common ground

01:17:46.400 you know

01:17:47.460 prenup is

01:17:48.340 viewed as

01:17:49.300 a what

01:17:50.480 happens in

01:17:51.160 the event

01:17:51.720 of a

01:17:52.220 divorce

01:17:52.860 how about

01:17:55.160 you sign a

01:17:56.420 nuptial

01:17:56.880 agreement

01:17:57.380 which defines

01:17:59.680 traditional

01:18:00.460 marriage

01:18:01.120 as to what

01:18:02.720 the man

01:18:03.160 does and

01:18:03.640 what the

01:18:04.000 woman does

01:18:05.020 and then

01:18:05.720 what yeah

01:18:06.300 what the

01:18:06.780 repercussions

01:18:07.400 are in

01:18:08.040 a divorce

01:18:08.580 but it's

01:18:09.200 not a

01:18:09.780 prenup

01:18:10.620 it's just

01:18:12.680 affirmation

01:18:13.740 of a

01:18:14.240 nuptial

01:18:14.820 agreement

01:18:15.420 that

01:18:17.940 counters

01:18:19.440 the civil

01:18:20.680 law

01:18:21.140 and really

01:18:22.800 why does

01:18:24.240 the catholic

01:18:25.140 church

01:18:25.620 let the

01:18:27.700 state be

01:18:28.280 a gatekeeper

01:18:29.360 to the

01:18:30.280 sacrament

01:18:30.840 of marriage

01:18:31.680 i i have

01:18:32.580 i think they

01:18:33.100 get money

01:18:33.580 or some

01:18:33.940 sort of

01:18:34.300 kickback

01:18:34.940 that's the

01:18:35.400 only thing

01:18:35.760 that makes

01:18:36.140 sense to

01:18:36.620 me

01:18:36.880 oh it's

01:18:38.380 simpler than

01:18:38.920 that they

01:18:39.280 want to be

01:18:39.620 good americans

01:18:40.660 because catholics

01:18:41.780 were persecuted

01:18:42.700 or discriminated

01:18:44.740 against let's

01:18:45.520 not say

01:18:46.280 persecuted

01:18:46.880 discriminated

01:18:47.720 against so

01:18:48.160 they want to

01:18:48.520 be good

01:18:48.860 americans

01:18:49.440 so they want

01:18:50.300 to be a

01:18:50.700 law

01:18:51.200 abiding

01:18:52.360 and that's

01:18:53.760 what the

01:18:54.080 bishops went

01:18:54.780 with and

01:18:55.620 so they

01:18:56.120 have allowed

01:18:57.020 the state

01:18:58.180 you have to

01:18:58.940 get a marriage

01:18:59.520 license

01:19:00.140 to get the

01:19:02.600 sacrament

01:19:03.180 of marriage

01:19:04.120 therefore

01:19:04.740 the state

01:19:05.440 is a

01:19:06.640 gatekeeper

01:19:07.220 to a

01:19:07.980 sacrament

01:19:08.580 now i

01:19:10.460 know not

01:19:10.860 all christians

01:19:11.560 believe it's

01:19:12.060 a sacrament

01:19:12.600 but still

01:19:13.460 the gate

01:19:14.020 this state

01:19:15.420 is a

01:19:16.040 gatekeeper

01:19:16.680 yeah

01:19:19.080 no i i

01:19:20.920 agree with

01:19:21.420 you

01:19:21.720 so how

01:19:25.880 how did

01:19:28.940 that whole

01:19:29.360 situation

01:19:30.080 like

01:19:30.460 affect your

01:19:31.780 life like

01:19:32.420 how long

01:19:32.880 did that

01:19:33.700 whole process

01:19:34.360 take how

01:19:35.140 did it

01:19:35.400 affect your

01:19:35.800 reputation

01:19:36.400 like what

01:19:36.860 happened

01:19:37.240 well the

01:19:38.880 second marriage

01:19:39.500 took a

01:19:41.580 couple years

01:19:42.240 i don't know

01:19:43.240 i probably

01:19:43.560 spent 35

01:19:44.500 40 000

01:19:45.240 dollars uh

01:19:46.620 she got an

01:19:47.320 unequal

01:19:47.780 distribution

01:19:48.560 but uh

01:19:51.260 hey i

01:19:52.020 didn't get

01:19:52.480 any spousal

01:19:53.360 support or

01:19:54.040 any child

01:19:54.740 support for

01:19:55.280 the second

01:19:55.660 time around

01:19:56.480 and now

01:19:57.980 i get to

01:19:58.780 keep my

01:19:59.180 money

01:19:59.500 yeah

01:20:00.560 and i'm

01:20:01.560 doing pretty

01:20:02.080 well

01:20:02.500 okay

01:20:03.060 you know

01:20:04.620 what life

01:20:05.220 is not about

01:20:06.060 making a lot

01:20:06.840 of money

01:20:07.160 sometimes life

01:20:07.940 is about

01:20:08.360 adventures

01:20:08.940 yeah

01:20:09.780 and i never

01:20:10.960 learn things

01:20:12.820 until it's

01:20:14.300 too hard

01:20:14.780 not to

01:20:15.320 learn

01:20:15.540 well thank

01:20:17.900 you for

01:20:18.240 calling in

01:20:18.840 and telling

01:20:19.240 your story

01:20:20.000 thanks

01:20:21.440 i um

01:20:22.260 is there

01:20:22.700 someone else

01:20:23.280 in the

01:20:23.540 waiting room

01:20:24.000 blessing or

01:20:24.560 no

01:20:24.820 we have

01:20:26.220 glenn in the

01:20:26.780 way

01:20:26.920 okay you

01:20:27.860 can bring

01:20:28.120 up glenn

01:20:28.540 um

01:20:30.860 thanks bro

01:20:31.520 hello glenn

01:20:33.200 glenn you've

01:20:33.860 been like

01:20:34.400 on everything

01:20:35.500 lately

01:20:36.000 everywhere and

01:20:37.180 everything

01:20:37.660 yeah i

01:20:39.640 kind of

01:20:39.820 been all

01:20:40.540 over the

01:20:40.800 place

01:20:41.000 haven't i

01:20:41.380 um so

01:20:42.740 tell them

01:20:44.880 about how

01:20:46.720 you could

01:20:47.160 have led

01:20:47.620 better

01:20:48.040 oh man

01:20:50.420 like in

01:20:51.420 your your

01:20:52.200 only if

01:20:53.420 only if i

01:20:55.780 was just a

01:20:56.220 better servant

01:20:56.820 leader like

01:20:57.940 only if like

01:20:59.020 i could just

01:20:59.640 like do

01:21:01.220 like use

01:21:02.220 my leadership

01:21:03.140 ability to

01:21:04.320 serve my

01:21:05.400 ex-wife in

01:21:06.640 her cheating

01:21:07.240 ways better

01:21:07.980 like if i

01:21:09.460 would have

01:21:09.740 just said

01:21:10.120 you know

01:21:10.380 what babe

01:21:10.760 i get it

01:21:11.900 i would

01:21:12.400 cheat on

01:21:12.760 me too

01:21:13.220 you know

01:21:14.080 and you

01:21:15.580 you were

01:21:16.020 right for

01:21:16.560 doing so

01:21:17.240 yeah and

01:21:17.880 it's okay

01:21:18.500 you know

01:21:19.340 like that

01:21:20.520 that's basically

01:21:21.380 what they

01:21:21.720 want you to

01:21:22.180 do you

01:21:23.320 know um

01:21:25.040 i have

01:21:26.180 several clips

01:21:26.900 from the

01:21:28.420 video of

01:21:29.360 you and

01:21:29.600 michael

01:21:29.840 knolls we

01:21:30.640 can that

01:21:31.280 oh sorry

01:21:32.140 god

01:21:32.500 that like

01:21:34.200 you know

01:21:34.540 really

01:21:35.000 really

01:21:35.260 chaps

01:21:38.040 my you

01:21:38.980 know

01:21:39.220 hide

01:21:40.020 here

01:21:40.360 because

01:21:41.460 he

01:21:43.260 talks

01:21:43.720 about

01:21:44.100 things

01:21:44.580 as if

01:21:45.400 they

01:21:45.780 are not

01:21:47.900 realistic

01:21:48.440 like

01:21:48.840 divorce

01:21:49.500 was not

01:21:49.840 realistic

01:21:50.180 one

01:21:50.600 god

01:21:52.000 divorced

01:21:52.420 israel

01:21:52.920 for their

01:21:53.920 ways

01:21:54.320 like he

01:21:55.680 didn't want

01:21:55.960 to acknowledge

01:21:56.360 that during

01:21:56.880 the debate

01:21:57.300 i want you

01:21:57.880 to know

01:21:58.120 that because

01:21:58.440 i brought

01:21:58.760 that up

01:21:59.100 to him

01:21:59.380 during the

01:21:59.740 show

01:21:59.980 you know

01:22:01.220 it's like

01:22:01.700 this saying

01:22:02.440 that divorce

01:22:03.260 is not

01:22:03.680 acceptable

01:22:04.180 no

01:22:05.020 it's

01:22:06.340 god doesn't

01:22:07.000 like it

01:22:07.380 but you know

01:22:07.700 what men

01:22:08.280 were able

01:22:08.840 to serve

01:22:09.300 their wife

01:22:09.680 letters of

01:22:10.140 the divorce

01:22:10.540 it wasn't

01:22:10.960 the other

01:22:11.180 way around

01:22:11.700 you know

01:22:12.900 back in

01:22:13.320 the day

01:22:13.680 and there

01:22:15.800 was a

01:22:16.180 standard

01:22:16.540 how can

01:22:17.020 men lead

01:22:17.800 it said

01:22:18.380 how does

01:22:18.840 men could

01:22:19.440 lead

01:22:19.720 be better

01:22:20.360 that's what

01:22:20.800 michael

01:22:21.060 knolls says

01:22:21.520 just lead

01:22:22.240 better

01:22:22.520 be a better

01:22:23.120 leader

01:22:23.360 well in

01:22:24.340 order to

01:22:24.740 lead you

01:22:25.140 have to

01:22:25.420 have

01:22:25.560 authority

01:22:26.000 in order

01:22:26.720 to leave

01:22:27.120 you have

01:22:27.440 to have

01:22:27.720 respect

01:22:28.260 and the

01:22:29.060 position

01:22:29.980 capability

01:22:30.700 of those

01:22:31.980 underneath

01:22:32.340 you

01:22:32.800 for them

01:22:34.060 to follow

01:22:34.440 you

01:22:34.740 or they

01:22:35.880 face

01:22:36.140 consequence

01:22:36.780 right

01:22:37.480 but

01:22:37.860 today

01:22:39.040 marriage

01:22:39.380 is a joke

01:22:39.960 it is

01:22:40.500 it's sad

01:22:41.080 because

01:22:41.460 I believe

01:22:42.520 in marriage

01:22:43.020 but as

01:22:44.320 you said

01:22:44.740 I can't

01:22:45.260 support the

01:22:45.720 way that

01:22:45.900 we do

01:22:46.140 marriage

01:22:46.420 today

01:22:46.760 one

01:22:47.620 it's not

01:22:48.020 even

01:22:48.240 biblical

01:22:48.600 I don't

01:22:48.960 even know

01:22:49.260 why

01:22:49.540 michael

01:22:49.900 knolls

01:22:50.200 would even

01:22:50.540 assume

01:22:51.040 that today's

01:22:52.020 way that

01:22:52.340 we do

01:22:52.600 marriage

01:22:52.940 is

01:22:53.140 biblical

01:22:53.520 no

01:22:56.820 and that's

01:22:57.260 why I

01:22:57.580 was getting

01:22:57.980 a bit

01:22:58.260 frustrated

01:22:58.800 because I

01:22:59.260 sometimes feel

01:23:00.160 like when I

01:23:00.540 talk to

01:23:00.940 trad cons

01:23:01.560 they're in

01:23:01.880 la la land

01:23:02.680 and I

01:23:03.500 don't know

01:23:03.860 I don't

01:23:04.260 think it's

01:23:04.660 intentional

01:23:05.220 you know

01:23:05.700 I go into

01:23:06.720 good into

01:23:07.280 things in

01:23:07.760 good faith

01:23:08.280 I assume

01:23:09.120 that this

01:23:10.260 is just

01:23:10.680 because it

01:23:11.140 goes against

01:23:11.700 like an

01:23:12.860 ego belief

01:23:13.700 or it's

01:23:14.100 just like

01:23:14.580 you know

01:23:15.180 they're really

01:23:15.580 into their

01:23:16.020 religion or

01:23:16.620 whatever

01:23:16.920 but I

01:23:17.940 just was

01:23:18.480 questioning

01:23:18.920 how could

01:23:19.320 you go on

01:23:19.780 whatever

01:23:20.160 podcast

01:23:20.700 and just

01:23:21.340 even in

01:23:22.560 Nashville

01:23:22.960 I mean

01:23:23.260 we were

01:23:23.580 interviewing

01:23:24.040 girls

01:23:24.460 downtown

01:23:24.940 I'm

01:23:25.680 like

01:23:25.980 I'm

01:23:26.600 like

01:23:26.880 are you

01:23:28.560 are you

01:23:29.340 guys

01:23:29.520 blind

01:23:30.020 like you

01:23:30.460 don't

01:23:30.700 you don't

01:23:31.060 see this

01:23:31.800 you know

01:23:32.900 and even

01:23:33.560 that he

01:23:33.920 admitted he

01:23:34.500 knows people

01:23:35.100 that have

01:23:35.440 been divorced

01:23:36.060 and gone

01:23:36.940 through really

01:23:37.360 messy divorces

01:23:38.320 and I just

01:23:38.840 I just

01:23:39.980 question how

01:23:40.600 they don't

01:23:41.520 you know

01:23:41.740 I had a

01:23:42.280 different opinion

01:23:42.900 when I

01:23:43.260 started this

01:23:43.780 whole thing

01:23:44.140 I didn't

01:23:44.500 understand why

01:23:45.240 men were so

01:23:45.800 anti-marriage

01:23:46.520 but I'm

01:23:48.200 not blind

01:23:48.780 you know

01:23:49.580 it said

01:23:51.640 that like

01:23:52.180 most of

01:23:53.480 the time

01:23:53.780 he kept

01:23:54.060 on saying

01:23:54.500 that you

01:23:54.820 know

01:23:55.000 well the

01:23:56.060 reason why

01:23:56.540 women are

01:23:57.060 the way

01:23:57.380 women are

01:23:57.980 is because

01:23:59.100 you can't

01:23:59.520 blame women

01:23:59.900 for their

01:24:00.260 sins

01:24:00.560 no part

01:24:01.600 of it's

01:24:02.300 society's

01:24:03.100 fault

01:24:03.360 it's the

01:24:04.100 teacher's

01:24:04.740 fault

01:24:05.000 it's the

01:24:05.600 culture's

01:24:06.200 fault

01:24:06.460 and it's

01:24:07.340 like hey

01:24:08.440 do you

01:24:08.760 give men

01:24:09.200 that same

01:24:09.680 pass or

01:24:10.300 is it

01:24:10.500 just for

01:24:10.800 women

01:24:11.060 because I

01:24:14.840 don't ever

01:24:15.180 hear him

01:24:15.600 saying you

01:24:16.000 know men

01:24:16.420 men get a

01:24:17.140 pass for

01:24:17.760 the way they

01:24:18.680 are because

01:24:19.200 society and

01:24:19.920 culture taught

01:24:20.500 them

01:24:20.700 okay

01:24:21.780 no that's

01:24:23.240 true

01:24:23.580 so question

01:24:25.220 do you want

01:24:26.080 to go through

01:24:26.640 your story

01:24:27.360 first of like

01:24:28.460 what happened

01:24:28.900 to you

01:24:29.340 and then

01:24:30.440 I don't know

01:24:31.760 if you did

01:24:32.180 you were the

01:24:32.800 clips would

01:24:33.400 they be helpful

01:24:34.000 to your story

01:24:34.780 or is that

01:24:35.340 more for when

01:24:35.820 we go through

01:24:36.160 the religious

01:24:36.620 stuff

01:24:37.060 oh that's

01:24:38.220 when we

01:24:38.460 decide to

01:24:39.180 go through

01:24:39.520 everything

01:24:39.940 I just

01:24:40.340 prep them

01:24:40.740 all

01:24:40.960 okay great

01:24:41.640 so first

01:24:42.380 I think

01:24:42.780 we're gonna

01:24:43.140 I want you

01:24:44.040 to tell

01:24:44.440 them

01:24:44.840 the story

01:24:45.800 of your

01:24:46.020 divorce

01:24:46.600 tell them

01:24:48.600 what

01:24:49.200 happened

01:24:49.740 tell them

01:24:50.700 about the

01:24:50.980 divorce

01:24:51.520 how much

01:24:52.240 you spent

01:24:52.780 your relationship

01:24:54.080 with your

01:24:54.440 kids

01:24:54.860 and then

01:24:56.380 we'll go

01:24:57.500 through the

01:24:58.160 the other

01:24:59.240 we can bring

01:24:59.680 them back

01:25:00.000 on right

01:25:00.800 for the

01:25:01.520 other part

01:25:02.120 yeah

01:25:03.460 good

01:25:03.860 okay

01:25:04.480 yeah

01:25:04.820 um

01:25:05.740 so

01:25:06.660 I was

01:25:08.060 married for

01:25:08.840 13 years

01:25:10.580 well 14

01:25:11.660 years total

01:25:12.200 um

01:25:14.020 I met

01:25:15.840 my

01:25:16.120 my wife

01:25:16.840 my ex-wife

01:25:17.540 at church

01:25:18.060 now mind

01:25:19.820 you I did

01:25:20.240 come in

01:25:20.640 hungover

01:25:21.160 I was at

01:25:21.840 the bar

01:25:22.180 the night

01:25:22.480 before

01:25:22.880 with my

01:25:23.300 buddies

01:25:23.600 and we

01:25:24.240 were tore

01:25:24.800 up

01:25:25.140 and like

01:25:25.900 like I

01:25:26.700 was hung

01:25:27.060 over

01:25:27.320 and all

01:25:29.140 I remember

01:25:29.680 the pastor

01:25:30.120 saying was

01:25:30.560 something about

01:25:31.060 temptation

01:25:31.540 and then she

01:25:32.420 walked by

01:25:32.960 and then

01:25:33.780 remember that

01:25:34.260 thing I told

01:25:34.820 you I jumped

01:25:35.380 into it

01:25:35.880 I wasn't

01:25:36.700 lying

01:25:36.980 so we

01:25:39.620 got together

01:25:40.200 things seemed

01:25:41.120 to be going

01:25:41.540 good in the

01:25:42.080 beginning

01:25:42.400 and then

01:25:44.080 things started

01:25:44.620 changing

01:25:45.100 like she

01:25:45.520 she had a

01:25:46.500 son

01:25:46.800 so I was

01:25:47.960 the stepdad

01:25:48.660 I did that

01:25:49.140 whole role

01:25:49.620 like I was

01:25:50.100 that blue

01:25:50.560 pilled

01:25:50.840 and um

01:25:52.620 when I

01:25:53.680 realized like

01:25:54.540 there was a

01:25:55.440 lot of

01:25:55.700 problems with

01:25:56.300 this

01:25:56.600 with the

01:25:57.300 stepchild

01:25:57.840 and the

01:25:58.440 and the

01:25:59.140 ex-husband

01:25:59.720 and all

01:26:00.440 these dynamics

01:26:01.060 it played

01:26:01.940 a real

01:26:02.420 negative

01:26:02.900 effect

01:26:03.760 on our

01:26:04.860 household

01:26:05.280 and I was

01:26:06.320 just trying

01:26:06.720 to get

01:26:07.020 some

01:26:07.600 guidance

01:26:08.540 here

01:26:08.800 some

01:26:09.140 some

01:26:09.640 stability

01:26:10.940 and um

01:26:12.740 there was a lot

01:26:14.100 of undermining

01:26:14.760 a lot of

01:26:15.300 you know

01:26:15.680 just going

01:26:17.440 behind my

01:26:17.900 back type

01:26:18.440 of stuff

01:26:18.820 and that

01:26:19.120 caused a lot

01:26:19.600 of problems

01:26:20.080 that caused

01:26:20.480 some distance

01:26:21.240 which

01:26:22.580 when I got

01:26:24.680 out of the

01:26:24.960 military

01:26:25.400 she decided

01:26:27.180 she wanted

01:26:27.520 to go into

01:26:27.900 the military

01:26:28.340 so

01:26:29.860 she joined

01:26:31.660 the navy

01:26:32.040 and um

01:26:33.520 I didn't

01:26:34.120 really think

01:26:34.580 anything of it

01:26:35.200 back then

01:26:35.720 now I

01:26:37.420 would tell

01:26:37.760 anybody

01:26:38.060 that don't

01:26:38.880 marry any

01:26:39.340 woman in

01:26:39.700 the navy

01:26:40.060 because

01:26:41.000 all of

01:26:41.920 them I

01:26:42.240 heard they

01:26:42.640 become

01:26:43.000 boat

01:26:43.360 hoes

01:26:43.780 they go

01:26:44.660 out to

01:26:44.960 deployment

01:26:45.420 and the

01:26:45.760 next thing

01:26:46.100 you know

01:26:46.460 they got

01:26:46.980 a ship

01:26:47.480 husband

01:26:47.880 and you

01:26:48.980 know they

01:26:49.260 got a

01:26:49.500 whole bunch

01:26:49.860 of ship

01:26:50.160 dick

01:26:50.480 all over

01:26:51.180 the place

01:26:51.620 um because

01:26:52.700 there are

01:26:53.660 few women

01:26:54.460 on the

01:26:54.780 ship

01:26:55.000 and um

01:26:57.380 so she

01:26:57.820 had three

01:26:58.140 affairs

01:26:58.520 and I

01:26:59.140 found out

01:26:59.640 about all

01:27:00.380 three

01:27:00.660 affairs

01:27:01.140 when I

01:27:02.380 found out

01:27:02.740 about the

01:27:03.080 last one

01:27:03.600 and the

01:27:06.640 whole time

01:27:07.140 she was

01:27:07.460 telling our

01:27:07.900 pastor that

01:27:08.460 she thought

01:27:08.820 I was

01:27:09.240 having an

01:27:09.660 affair

01:27:09.860 and so

01:27:12.020 my pastor

01:27:13.720 who was

01:27:14.380 who I was

01:27:15.340 working

01:27:15.680 underneath

01:27:16.080 I was

01:27:16.600 the um

01:27:18.060 the acting

01:27:19.460 associate

01:27:19.920 pastor but

01:27:20.740 mainly just

01:27:21.400 my world

01:27:21.960 was the

01:27:22.300 youth

01:27:22.480 pastor

01:27:22.880 and I

01:27:25.080 would fill

01:27:25.420 in for

01:27:25.720 him when

01:27:26.020 he was

01:27:26.280 gone

01:27:26.600 so I

01:27:27.540 was really

01:27:27.820 the only

01:27:28.100 one would

01:27:28.500 preach

01:27:28.860 besides

01:27:29.280 him

01:27:29.600 so when

01:27:31.100 he told

01:27:31.500 me I

01:27:31.760 needed to

01:27:32.140 step

01:27:32.340 down

01:27:32.800 you know

01:27:35.380 to take

01:27:35.720 care of

01:27:35.920 some

01:27:36.060 personal

01:27:36.440 matters

01:27:36.860 I

01:27:39.140 then tell

01:27:39.560 him about

01:27:40.000 her affairs

01:27:40.880 and then

01:27:41.820 I'm having

01:27:42.140 I don't

01:27:42.740 know I

01:27:42.980 can't deal

01:27:43.400 with this

01:27:43.840 and he's

01:27:45.060 like well

01:27:45.300 you need

01:27:45.580 to forgive

01:27:45.940 her

01:27:46.220 and he

01:27:47.800 ends up

01:27:48.160 referencing

01:27:49.160 the story

01:27:50.520 of Hosea

01:27:51.240 in the

01:27:51.780 Bible

01:27:52.060 now

01:27:53.620 Hosea

01:27:54.660 you know

01:27:55.360 is a story

01:27:56.160 about this

01:27:56.620 guy that

01:27:57.060 God told

01:27:57.500 him to

01:27:57.740 marry a

01:27:58.120 prostitute

01:27:58.620 who ended

01:27:58.900 up cheating

01:27:59.240 on him

01:27:59.620 multiple

01:27:59.940 times

01:28:00.440 and that

01:28:01.260 he took

01:28:01.620 her back

01:28:02.040 over and

01:28:02.520 over again

01:28:02.940 it's symbolic

01:28:04.140 to represent

01:28:05.340 how God

01:28:06.040 forgives us

01:28:07.020 and takes

01:28:07.360 us back

01:28:07.780 all the

01:28:08.060 times we

01:28:08.440 sin

01:28:08.700 right

01:28:09.180 and

01:28:10.460 I was

01:28:12.540 like I

01:28:12.760 can't do

01:28:13.160 that

01:28:13.420 so they

01:28:14.300 made me

01:28:14.580 step down

01:28:15.120 from pastoral

01:28:15.940 ministries

01:28:16.480 as a youth

01:28:17.580 pastor

01:28:17.960 but they

01:28:19.540 put the

01:28:20.660 cheating

01:28:21.140 wife

01:28:22.300 in my

01:28:22.840 place

01:28:23.260 so

01:28:25.180 they

01:28:25.800 rewarded

01:28:26.240 her

01:28:26.620 they had

01:28:27.980 her

01:28:28.220 yeah

01:28:30.080 okay

01:28:31.400 so that

01:28:33.240 was when

01:28:33.540 I left

01:28:33.860 the church

01:28:34.280 and then

01:28:34.680 I filed

01:28:36.020 and

01:28:37.560 what she

01:28:38.920 did was

01:28:39.480 she

01:28:39.860 she had

01:28:41.120 me

01:28:41.580 detained

01:28:43.560 and then

01:28:45.640 I was

01:28:47.920 I had a

01:28:48.400 restraining

01:28:48.800 order

01:28:49.120 since I

01:28:50.100 had a

01:28:50.420 fine

01:28:50.640 I have

01:28:50.960 guns

01:28:51.460 I have

01:28:51.660 lots of

01:28:51.920 guns

01:28:52.120 and since

01:28:53.200 I had

01:28:53.480 a gun

01:28:54.000 I was

01:28:54.360 cleaning

01:28:54.600 a gun

01:28:54.940 on the

01:28:55.180 table

01:28:55.500 when the

01:28:55.960 police

01:28:56.260 came in

01:28:56.720 and my

01:28:57.680 son was

01:28:58.180 in his

01:28:58.480 room

01:28:58.740 they said

01:29:01.780 my gun

01:29:02.140 was

01:29:02.420 it was

01:29:03.700 open

01:29:04.100 and he

01:29:04.520 it was

01:29:04.900 you know

01:29:05.260 within reach

01:29:06.220 of a

01:29:06.520 child

01:29:06.960 not locked

01:29:07.760 well I was

01:29:08.600 like yeah

01:29:08.940 it's not

01:29:09.360 locked

01:29:09.660 because I'm

01:29:10.020 cleaning it

01:29:10.540 and the

01:29:11.380 reason why

01:29:11.760 it's still

01:29:12.040 on the

01:29:12.420 table

01:29:12.740 is because

01:29:13.400 I haven't

01:29:14.080 put it

01:29:14.380 up

01:29:14.580 and you

01:29:15.380 guys have

01:29:15.680 me in

01:29:15.900 handcuffs

01:29:16.280 so it's

01:29:16.880 not me

01:29:17.360 doing child

01:29:17.960 endangerment

01:29:18.440 it's you

01:29:18.980 doing child

01:29:19.760 endangerment

01:29:20.300 so they

01:29:21.340 put a

01:29:21.680 child

01:29:21.960 endangerment

01:29:22.500 clause

01:29:22.780 on me

01:29:23.140 and I

01:29:24.060 had to

01:29:24.380 wait like

01:29:25.100 so many

01:29:26.080 months to

01:29:26.580 get

01:29:26.720 that cleared

01:29:27.220 off and

01:29:28.360 once they

01:29:28.680 finally cleared

01:29:29.260 that off

01:29:29.760 it was

01:29:31.000 like four

01:29:32.060 or five

01:29:32.400 months later

01:29:33.220 and I

01:29:33.920 haven't seen

01:29:34.340 my son

01:29:34.760 and then by

01:29:36.100 that time

01:29:36.640 she already

01:29:37.260 poisoned the

01:29:38.120 well you

01:29:39.280 know which

01:29:39.620 I think she

01:29:40.060 was already

01:29:40.400 doing prior

01:29:41.100 to right

01:29:42.460 and even

01:29:45.080 to this day

01:29:45.540 like I

01:29:46.040 love my

01:29:46.600 son but

01:29:47.740 unfortunately

01:29:48.460 me and my

01:29:49.120 son have

01:29:49.600 not yet

01:29:50.100 had a

01:29:50.780 conversation

01:29:51.280 because

01:29:51.960 child

01:29:52.880 parental

01:29:53.560 alienation

01:29:54.380 I did

01:29:56.780 pay a

01:29:57.380 lot of

01:29:58.080 money for

01:29:58.400 a good

01:29:58.660 lawyer

01:29:58.980 to

01:30:00.340 you know

01:30:02.240 fight the

01:30:02.720 case

01:30:03.080 we were

01:30:05.600 able to

01:30:06.060 prove

01:30:06.380 parental

01:30:06.780 alienation

01:30:07.340 which is

01:30:07.720 something

01:30:07.940 really hard

01:30:08.420 to do

01:30:08.800 and

01:30:10.760 but still

01:30:12.420 it's like I

01:30:12.760 don't care

01:30:13.080 that I

01:30:13.540 won that

01:30:14.000 case

01:30:14.380 I lost

01:30:15.120 my son

01:30:15.540 in the

01:30:15.760 process

01:30:16.260 you know

01:30:18.220 my son

01:30:18.900 now is

01:30:19.400 16 years

01:30:21.460 old

01:30:21.720 and you

01:30:23.460 know he's

01:30:23.760 in that

01:30:24.060 very you

01:30:25.540 know very

01:30:26.600 important

01:30:27.060 time in

01:30:28.060 his life

01:30:28.440 where a

01:30:29.640 strong father

01:30:30.260 figure role

01:30:30.880 was what he

01:30:31.340 needs but he

01:30:32.500 doesn't have

01:30:32.900 that you

01:30:34.240 know when

01:30:34.700 he was

01:30:36.120 living with

01:30:36.480 me he

01:30:36.860 had straight

01:30:38.220 A's he

01:30:38.660 was actually

01:30:39.200 captain of

01:30:40.320 his football

01:30:40.720 team he

01:30:41.400 was doing

01:30:42.240 great in

01:30:42.680 jujitsu

01:30:43.160 now he

01:30:45.160 won the

01:30:45.540 presidential

01:30:46.140 award at

01:30:46.780 a school

01:30:47.120 now he's

01:30:49.660 failing classes

01:30:50.760 barely going

01:30:51.540 to school

01:30:51.960 you know

01:30:53.140 just a mess

01:30:53.900 and you

01:30:54.800 report this

01:30:55.700 all the time

01:30:56.220 where it's

01:30:56.620 like children

01:30:57.820 raised under

01:30:58.520 their father

01:30:59.120 do way

01:31:00.260 better than

01:31:02.480 children raised

01:31:03.140 in their

01:31:03.380 mother and

01:31:05.040 I personally

01:31:06.480 have you

01:31:07.180 know you

01:31:08.420 know evidence

01:31:08.900 of that but

01:31:10.700 it's sad

01:31:11.040 because you

01:31:11.660 know at

01:31:12.560 this point

01:31:13.120 all I

01:31:13.720 could do

01:31:14.120 is just

01:31:15.060 wait for

01:31:15.420 when he's

01:31:16.020 of age

01:31:16.440 and he

01:31:17.140 comes around

01:31:17.680 and there's

01:31:19.900 no support

01:31:20.360 from the

01:31:20.660 church

01:31:20.960 what's it

01:31:24.720 like having

01:31:25.560 how many

01:31:26.600 years has

01:31:27.060 it been

01:31:27.400 since you've

01:31:27.860 seen your

01:31:28.200 son

01:31:28.460 three years

01:31:32.560 three years

01:31:33.260 what's it

01:31:36.620 like not

01:31:37.400 being able

01:31:38.320 to watch

01:31:39.800 like what

01:31:40.480 he's doing

01:31:41.040 and almost

01:31:41.800 protect him

01:31:42.640 it's a

01:31:46.820 nightmare

01:31:47.080 so mind

01:31:49.200 you like

01:31:49.700 I've

01:31:50.480 until the

01:31:51.460 divorce I've

01:31:52.160 never been

01:31:52.880 away from

01:31:53.220 him

01:31:53.440 wow

01:31:54.620 my ex

01:31:57.380 was the

01:31:58.260 one that

01:31:58.520 would get

01:31:58.780 deployed

01:31:59.160 because I

01:31:59.480 was already

01:31:59.740 out of the

01:32:00.060 military

01:32:00.440 so she

01:32:01.820 would go

01:32:02.380 out to

01:32:03.160 deployment

01:32:03.540 you know

01:32:04.060 nine months

01:32:04.640 here nine

01:32:05.080 months there

01:32:05.680 eleven months

01:32:06.840 here you know

01:32:07.380 what I mean

01:32:07.620 so it

01:32:08.860 was always

01:32:09.340 dad

01:32:09.740 dad had

01:32:11.060 everything

01:32:11.420 I was his

01:32:12.620 hero like

01:32:13.100 everything was

01:32:13.660 dad you

01:32:14.760 know it's

01:32:15.060 funny because

01:32:15.560 he would

01:32:15.900 write his

01:32:16.560 stories in

01:32:17.120 his you

01:32:17.620 know class

01:32:18.320 in his

01:32:18.560 first grade

01:32:19.100 and his

01:32:20.660 stories always

01:32:21.460 had my

01:32:21.980 dad so

01:32:23.300 it'd be like

01:32:23.620 my friend

01:32:24.100 runs fast

01:32:24.800 my friend

01:32:25.200 runs fast

01:32:25.800 my dad

01:32:27.120 runs faster

01:32:27.920 it's like

01:32:28.340 everything was

01:32:29.380 my dad

01:32:29.940 so it's

01:32:33.460 like I

01:32:33.780 hate the

01:32:34.240 holiday season

01:32:34.940 because I

01:32:36.300 used to

01:32:36.700 love the

01:32:37.380 holiday season

01:32:37.980 because we

01:32:38.220 used to do

01:32:38.540 all these

01:32:39.000 stupid things

01:32:39.720 we used to

01:32:40.060 go down to

01:32:41.120 Seattle to

01:32:41.740 get our

01:32:42.100 coffee when

01:32:42.760 we lived

01:32:43.060 out there

01:32:43.540 and we'll

01:32:44.180 get our

01:32:44.380 hot chocolate

01:32:44.980 right there

01:32:45.500 by the

01:32:45.840 first Starbucks

01:32:46.520 and then we

01:32:47.500 would do all

01:32:48.220 these little

01:32:48.560 things we

01:32:49.020 would walk

01:32:49.480 to the

01:32:49.880 children's

01:32:50.360 museum and

01:32:51.440 then we

01:32:51.700 would just

01:32:52.180 do all

01:32:52.640 these little

01:32:53.060 ventures that

01:32:53.640 I would do

01:32:54.000 with him

01:32:54.360 you know go

01:32:55.200 camping just

01:32:56.020 boy stuff

01:32:57.700 and every

01:33:00.060 time the

01:33:00.420 holidays come

01:33:01.000 around I

01:33:01.520 just go

01:33:01.960 I don't

01:33:03.680 celebrate him

01:33:04.160 there's no

01:33:04.840 point because

01:33:05.760 when I think

01:33:06.240 about him I

01:33:06.820 think about my

01:33:07.740 time with my

01:33:08.240 son and the

01:33:09.420 time that I'm

01:33:09.900 now being robbed

01:33:10.720 of that's what

01:33:12.920 I find in these

01:33:13.980 interviews is that

01:33:15.180 men the money

01:33:16.980 is very much

01:33:17.740 secondary what

01:33:18.900 I mean the

01:33:19.720 hardest part is

01:33:20.620 losing time with

01:33:21.900 your children that

01:33:22.660 you won't get

01:33:23.160 back how do

01:33:24.660 you keep such

01:33:25.500 you have such a

01:33:26.020 positive attitude

01:33:26.800 just like

01:33:27.640 knowing you

01:33:28.220 personally how

01:33:29.500 do you keep

01:33:30.000 such a positive

01:33:30.640 attitude when

01:33:31.820 you haven't seen

01:33:32.440 your children in

01:33:33.200 three years

01:33:33.700 there's a

01:33:36.980 scripture and

01:33:39.440 Paul writes you

01:33:40.180 know I could do

01:33:40.780 all things through

01:33:41.340 Christ who

01:33:41.700 strengthens me and

01:33:43.200 it's no I'm not

01:33:43.960 going to lift a

01:33:44.800 thousand pounds

01:33:45.640 because I want

01:33:46.420 to that's not

01:33:47.160 what it means but

01:33:48.420 it means that I'm

01:33:48.980 content in all

01:33:49.940 situations no

01:33:51.700 matter what I'm

01:33:52.240 going through it's

01:33:52.760 not my strength

01:33:53.600 that I get

01:33:54.140 through it it's

01:33:54.660 God's somehow

01:33:55.720 God gives me the

01:33:56.460 strength to endure

01:33:57.300 and to push

01:33:58.720 on and whether

01:34:01.980 my son watches

01:34:03.060 these videos or

01:34:04.540 he watches my

01:34:05.240 stuff or watches

01:34:05.980 your stuff and

01:34:06.660 sees me on

01:34:07.060 here he knows

01:34:07.900 I'm always

01:34:08.220 talking about

01:34:08.720 him he knows

01:34:09.560 that I miss

01:34:10.020 him he knows

01:34:10.500 that I want to

01:34:11.020 be in his

01:34:11.320 life you know

01:34:12.280 like and that's

01:34:13.200 hope there's

01:34:14.420 hope there

01:34:14.900 eventually you

01:34:16.960 know there will

01:34:17.560 come a time

01:34:18.160 because I've

01:34:19.280 been through this

01:34:19.760 myself like my

01:34:20.780 mom kept me

01:34:21.320 from my dad

01:34:21.900 I've lived

01:34:23.540 this I

01:34:23.840 already lived

01:34:24.260 this once as

01:34:24.880 a child so I

01:34:27.360 know what it's

01:34:27.800 like and I

01:34:28.780 remember when I

01:34:29.900 finally got came

01:34:30.860 to my dad and I

01:34:31.840 had that hard to

01:34:32.740 heart conversation

01:34:33.620 with him and

01:34:35.100 learn the truth I

01:34:37.760 was like okay and

01:34:38.660 me and my dad are

01:34:39.220 best friends I

01:34:40.540 talked to my dad

01:34:41.160 every single day

01:34:41.800 like I me and

01:34:44.720 my dad go to the

01:34:45.340 gym I don't even

01:34:46.820 talk to my mom

01:34:47.500 you don't want

01:34:49.280 to talk to the

01:34:49.680 devil anyways

01:34:50.320 you know Jesse

01:34:52.400 Lee Peterson

01:34:53.040 says the devil's

01:34:54.120 in all women

01:34:54.720 that we all have

01:34:55.520 evil in us

01:34:56.240 you know you

01:34:58.160 might not get

01:34:58.660 this joke you

01:34:59.620 may not get

01:34:59.980 this joke but

01:35:00.500 in like 19 I

01:35:01.440 think 64 I

01:35:02.620 think Steve will

01:35:03.140 probably get this

01:35:03.700 because he's old

01:35:04.180 as hell but

01:35:05.640 like in 1964

01:35:06.580 there was this

01:35:07.460 horror movie

01:35:08.000 called Rosemary's

01:35:09.660 Baby right and

01:35:12.680 it was about like

01:35:13.220 the Antichrist

01:35:14.080 right being born

01:35:16.240 well my

01:35:17.320 grandmother's name

01:35:18.260 was Rosemary

01:35:19.300 so my mom is

01:35:21.980 the Antichrist

01:35:22.700 I swear to you

01:35:23.580 I kid you not

01:35:24.740 no and this

01:35:26.420 this is what

01:35:27.240 frustrates me

01:35:28.220 with the trad

01:35:29.020 cons I just

01:35:30.080 I think there

01:35:31.340 was parts in

01:35:31.960 that interview

01:35:32.420 where people

01:35:32.980 just said like

01:35:33.800 Pearl you keep

01:35:34.540 interrupting or

01:35:35.260 you're getting

01:35:35.480 frustrated and

01:35:36.240 I get it I

01:35:37.320 totally I

01:35:37.960 totally was but

01:35:38.820 it's because they

01:35:40.700 have no idea how

01:35:41.880 dangerous what

01:35:42.920 they're pushing

01:35:43.520 is telling a

01:35:45.600 young man to

01:35:46.220 get married

01:35:46.880 young with

01:35:48.180 no prenup

01:35:49.440 no sexual

01:35:51.680 experience with

01:35:52.740 women or no

01:35:53.360 experience really

01:35:54.280 with women because

01:35:55.000 you're young

01:35:55.500 no precautions

01:35:59.060 no DNA test

01:36:00.680 that's dangerous

01:36:02.940 oh that is so

01:36:04.600 because I've

01:36:05.520 seen like I

01:36:06.300 mean I've

01:36:07.060 interviewed so

01:36:08.220 many men on

01:36:08.880 the other side

01:36:09.560 and I just I

01:36:10.560 see so many

01:36:11.460 like I've

01:36:13.780 interviewed a guy

01:36:14.380 in pretty much

01:36:14.960 every situation

01:36:15.880 I've interviewed

01:36:16.440 men that got a

01:36:17.340 eastern european

01:36:18.900 chick I

01:36:19.900 interviewed men

01:36:20.520 that got a

01:36:21.680 japanese chick

01:36:22.920 I've interviewed

01:36:24.100 men that got a

01:36:25.620 homeschooled chick

01:36:26.780 I've interviewed

01:36:27.660 men that married

01:36:28.740 catholic women

01:36:29.580 virgin women

01:36:30.360 christian women

01:36:31.180 whores single

01:36:32.400 mother like I

01:36:33.340 have seen it all

01:36:34.620 and they all think

01:36:35.820 I'm just being a

01:36:36.640 doomer but I'm

01:36:37.880 just like guys

01:36:38.900 you are down

01:36:40.340 playing how

01:36:41.380 serious this is

01:36:42.760 and that's where

01:36:44.640 I get I get

01:36:45.220 frustrated sometimes

01:36:46.580 well it's like

01:36:48.040 they don't realize

01:36:49.840 it until they're

01:36:50.460 in that position

01:36:51.160 yeah that's a

01:36:52.340 sad thing

01:36:52.800 because I was

01:36:53.800 the same way

01:36:54.420 I remember

01:36:55.440 sitting there

01:36:56.180 with the pastor

01:36:57.480 when I think

01:36:58.260 observing counseling

01:36:59.240 for couples

01:36:59.980 because you know

01:37:00.760 we always had

01:37:01.680 somebody sit in

01:37:02.380 with them

01:37:02.700 and I'm

01:37:05.120 thinking like

01:37:05.780 yeah what the

01:37:06.240 hell's wrong

01:37:06.560 with this guy

01:37:07.080 why does he

01:37:08.040 just do it

01:37:08.540 right like

01:37:09.120 like it can't

01:37:10.400 be his wife

01:37:11.060 his wife can't

01:37:11.800 be the problem

01:37:12.460 he has to be

01:37:13.480 the problem

01:37:13.860 it's almost

01:37:14.360 like we're

01:37:14.920 taught we're

01:37:15.420 programmed this

01:37:16.280 and until you

01:37:19.280 are actually put

01:37:19.980 in that position

01:37:20.600 you're like well

01:37:21.080 wait a minute

01:37:21.400 guys I swear

01:37:22.120 I'm I I'm

01:37:23.380 not the one

01:37:23.840 that's guilty

01:37:24.260 here you know

01:37:25.720 but like I

01:37:26.740 told you and

01:37:27.740 I think I said

01:37:28.260 this with when

01:37:29.080 we were over

01:37:29.600 at Jason's

01:37:30.520 Jason Whitlock's

01:37:31.720 studio there's a

01:37:34.240 difference between

01:37:35.080 responsibility and

01:37:36.380 fault

01:37:36.720 as men we

01:37:39.260 always will have

01:37:40.220 the responsibility

01:37:41.180 to act

01:37:42.000 but if we're

01:37:44.080 not always at

01:37:44.940 fault

01:37:45.340 what what's the

01:37:50.980 difference

01:37:51.520 well it's

01:37:53.300 responsibility is

01:37:54.280 is like if your

01:37:54.740 wife cheats on

01:37:55.380 you you have the

01:37:56.440 responsibility to

01:37:57.280 make a decision

01:37:57.920 right and you

01:38:01.520 have to ask

01:38:01.940 yourself

01:38:02.300 one if you

01:38:03.760 choose to stay

01:38:04.300 with her

01:38:04.740 can you forgive

01:38:07.000 her can you

01:38:07.580 still look at

01:38:08.280 her the same

01:38:08.900 way as you

01:38:09.380 did before

01:38:09.940 if you can't

01:38:12.360 and you know

01:38:14.040 you can't

01:38:15.300 then staying in

01:38:17.420 that relationship

01:38:18.120 is probably going

01:38:18.980 to do more

01:38:19.400 damage in the

01:38:20.000 long run to

01:38:20.420 your children

01:38:20.900 and to her

01:38:22.220 and if you

01:38:23.560 have any amount

01:38:24.460 of love for

01:38:24.940 her maybe

01:38:25.820 knowing that

01:38:27.360 your heart is

01:38:27.980 as hard as it

01:38:28.720 is towards her

01:38:29.360 maybe you're

01:38:31.100 doing better

01:38:31.740 off just

01:38:32.240 ending that

01:38:33.080 relationship

01:38:33.480 because of

01:38:34.060 the affair

01:38:34.500 instead of

01:38:35.860 trying to

01:38:36.260 force it

01:38:36.720 to work

01:38:37.160 instead of

01:38:37.500 trying to

01:38:37.780 force it

01:38:38.160 to you

01:38:38.580 know to

01:38:40.000 stay stick

01:38:40.620 it out for

01:38:41.100 the kids

01:38:41.580 because if

01:38:42.500 you want

01:38:42.760 your children

01:38:43.180 to see what

01:38:43.940 two loving

01:38:44.500 parents is

01:38:45.160 sometimes

01:38:45.800 making that

01:38:47.060 loving sacrifices

01:38:48.020 you know what

01:38:48.500 knowing when

01:38:49.120 knowing when

01:38:49.840 to let it

01:38:50.240 go when

01:38:51.140 there's

01:38:51.340 something that

01:38:51.820 egregious

01:38:52.260 like infidelity

01:38:53.140 knowing that

01:38:55.120 you're never

01:38:55.580 going to be

01:38:55.860 able to trust

01:38:56.300 that person

01:38:56.820 again now

01:38:57.820 you're teaching

01:38:58.500 your children

01:38:59.000 to have

01:38:59.460 these trust

01:39:00.060 issues

01:39:00.500 and you

01:39:02.300 know to

01:39:02.720 have harbor

01:39:03.340 this resentment

01:39:04.020 towards your

01:39:04.480 towards their

01:39:05.420 mother or their

01:39:06.280 father and I

01:39:07.620 don't think that's

01:39:08.280 probably the best

01:39:08.920 thing that we

01:39:09.360 should do

01:39:09.820 right

01:39:10.600 um so what

01:39:13.380 clips did

01:39:14.940 did you see my

01:39:15.940 someone just

01:39:16.560 asked your

01:39:17.020 opinion on

01:39:17.600 crowder did

01:39:18.420 you agree with

01:39:18.920 my analysis of

01:39:19.900 that or no

01:39:20.420 did you see it

01:39:21.360 oh yeah I

01:39:21.840 did I did

01:39:22.640 I did agree

01:39:23.080 with it

01:39:23.340 I just I

01:39:24.140 didn't I

01:39:24.720 was so

01:39:25.020 disappointed in

01:39:25.860 the tribe

01:39:26.140 just never

01:39:26.640 been so

01:39:27.220 disappointed

01:39:27.840 as a viewer

01:39:29.060 I just was

01:39:30.000 like yeah

01:39:30.680 how did

01:39:31.460 none of you

01:39:32.080 catch that

01:39:32.680 but whatever

01:39:33.700 um okay

01:39:35.180 let's bring up

01:39:35.800 the other guys

01:39:36.480 and then what's

01:39:37.080 the first clip

01:39:38.060 that you want

01:39:38.800 I can pull it

01:39:39.400 up on my

01:39:39.760 laptop or

01:39:41.080 blessing

01:39:41.480 sorry go ahead

01:39:43.280 I already cut

01:39:44.400 them but I

01:39:45.340 can give you

01:39:45.600 the time

01:39:45.920 stamps

01:39:46.160 you want the

01:39:46.460 time yeah

01:39:46.800 just give me

01:39:47.200 the blessing

01:39:47.880 you want me

01:39:48.160 to pull it

01:39:48.460 up on my

01:39:48.800 laptop or is

01:39:49.540 it better

01:39:49.880 for you to

01:39:50.520 do it

01:39:50.960 I can do

01:39:51.840 it on your

01:39:52.100 laptop

01:39:52.280 yeah that's

01:39:53.340 fine

01:39:53.560 so I'll

01:39:54.420 go to

01:39:55.400 your thoughts

01:39:56.700 exactly

01:39:57.240 yes yes

01:39:58.060 and guys

01:39:58.880 it's okay

01:39:59.400 as reporters

01:40:00.080 we are bound

01:40:00.740 to get some

01:40:01.220 stuff wrong

01:40:01.860 okay it's

01:40:02.460 just gonna

01:40:02.780 happen

01:40:03.180 but the

01:40:04.880 fact that

01:40:05.340 it's been

01:40:05.680 like 10

01:40:06.140 months

01:40:06.560 no retraction

01:40:07.420 it just

01:40:07.860 it just is

01:40:08.880 mind-blowing

01:40:09.400 to me

01:40:09.760 get over

01:40:10.180 it

01:40:10.280 no I

01:40:11.080 won't

01:40:11.660 I used

01:40:12.060 to love

01:40:12.400 watching

01:40:12.780 both of

01:40:13.180 them

01:40:13.360 um

01:40:14.180 okay

01:40:15.040 let me

01:40:15.660 go

01:40:15.840 so the

01:40:16.060 first one

01:40:16.500 is um

01:40:17.100 all right

01:40:18.220 we'll start

01:40:18.640 in the

01:40:18.840 beginning

01:40:19.060 12 minutes

01:40:20.520 and 56

01:40:21.180 seconds

01:40:21.900 in

01:40:22.780 okay let

01:40:24.200 me

01:40:24.520 which is

01:40:24.920 I actually

01:40:25.420 wanted to

01:40:25.680 cut your

01:40:25.900 one

01:40:27.100 okay

01:40:29.960 okay

01:40:32.100 12 minutes

01:40:32.980 in

01:40:33.320 12 minutes

01:40:35.340 and 56

01:40:35.980 seconds in

01:40:36.760 so

01:40:39.140 okay

01:40:39.800 and you can

01:40:40.820 bring on

01:40:41.300 oh the other

01:40:41.800 guys are back

01:40:42.340 okay great

01:40:42.880 um

01:40:44.120 all right

01:40:44.580 12 minutes

01:40:45.540 you are

01:40:48.000 telling men

01:40:48.540 at the

01:40:48.740 very

01:40:48.920 all right

01:40:55.740 I'm at

01:40:55.960 1255

01:40:56.720 um

01:40:58.180 cool

01:40:58.540 okay we're

01:40:59.140 gonna tell

01:40:59.660 what what

01:41:00.220 time stamp

01:41:00.760 do you want

01:41:01.000 me to end

01:41:01.300 it at

01:41:01.660 um

01:41:03.660 1502

01:41:05.120 at 1502

01:41:06.620 okay I'm

01:41:06.940 gonna play

01:41:07.320 it you guys

01:41:07.760 are gonna go

01:41:08.100 off the screen

01:41:08.700 and then you'll

01:41:09.040 come back

01:41:09.520 okay

01:41:09.880 you're observing

01:41:13.320 that it is

01:41:14.080 not advisable

01:41:15.740 today in

01:41:16.520 2024

01:41:16.980 to get

01:41:17.860 married

01:41:18.120 I would

01:41:20.920 say that

01:41:21.260 every man

01:41:21.720 has to

01:41:22.060 pick for

01:41:22.460 himself

01:41:22.900 but I

01:41:23.540 think

01:41:23.780 objectively

01:41:24.540 if me

01:41:25.600 and you

01:41:25.880 sign a

01:41:26.240 contract

01:41:26.660 and one

01:41:27.180 of us

01:41:27.500 is paid

01:41:27.940 to leave

01:41:28.480 you would

01:41:29.280 never sign

01:41:30.020 that business

01:41:30.660 deal

01:41:30.960 you would

01:41:32.580 never sign

01:41:33.140 it

01:41:33.580 I did

01:41:34.280 right

01:41:34.460 if you're

01:41:34.940 saying that's

01:41:35.360 the state

01:41:35.620 of marriage

01:41:35.940 now I

01:41:36.420 did get

01:41:36.780 married

01:41:37.040 therefore I

01:41:37.480 did sign

01:41:37.820 it

01:41:38.040 okay well

01:41:39.380 congratulations

01:41:40.300 but I think

01:41:40.940 a lot a lot

01:41:41.660 of men are

01:41:42.220 going to be

01:41:42.800 hesitant to do

01:41:43.720 that

01:41:44.080 and you're

01:41:44.940 saying it's

01:41:45.500 rational for

01:41:46.320 them to be

01:41:46.640 hesitant

01:41:46.860 yeah

01:41:47.960 so you're

01:41:49.620 saying it's

01:41:50.340 advisable

01:41:51.120 no not

01:41:52.080 advisable

01:41:52.880 but rational

01:41:53.960 every man

01:41:54.480 like okay

01:41:54.960 I'll give you

01:41:56.160 an example

01:41:56.740 you I'm not

01:41:58.560 here I think

01:41:59.020 men have had

01:41:59.600 enough of

01:42:00.120 women telling

01:42:00.700 them what to

01:42:01.200 do I'm not

01:42:02.180 I'm not I'm

01:42:02.680 not telling

01:42:03.160 men to do

01:42:03.760 anything but I

01:42:04.860 think your

01:42:05.240 situation is

01:42:06.060 going to be

01:42:06.440 completely

01:42:06.880 different than

01:42:07.960 the average

01:42:08.660 Joe making

01:42:09.160 $45,000 a

01:42:10.520 year if your

01:42:11.320 marriage goes

01:42:11.900 south you have

01:42:13.220 the money to

01:42:13.740 afford lawyers

01:42:14.600 I have the

01:42:15.240 money but I'm

01:42:15.720 going to lose

01:42:16.020 half my

01:42:16.440 what

01:42:17.680 one of the

01:42:18.800 but but you

01:42:19.460 do you think

01:42:19.960 you're in the

01:42:20.280 same position

01:42:20.880 as the average

01:42:21.600 man making

01:42:22.120 $45,000 a

01:42:23.460 year the

01:42:23.740 answer is no

01:42:24.460 no but I

01:42:25.000 don't answer

01:42:25.420 is no I

01:42:26.040 don't think it's

01:42:26.600 because of my

01:42:26.960 money though I

01:42:27.860 you know what I

01:42:28.420 think it's because

01:42:28.960 well look when I

01:42:29.440 got married I

01:42:29.900 didn't have a lot

01:42:30.360 of money but

01:42:31.120 now I have more

01:42:31.920 money but I

01:42:32.680 think there's a

01:42:33.320 bigger distinction

01:42:33.840 I'm getting

01:42:34.160 annoyed you know

01:42:34.980 what I'm saying

01:42:35.740 why are you

01:42:36.280 pretending you

01:42:36.960 don't sorry

01:42:38.100 that I'm done

01:42:38.960 which is I am

01:42:42.160 of a religious

01:42:42.880 view and

01:42:43.560 practice that

01:42:44.700 does not

01:42:45.440 recognize the

01:42:46.660 reality of

01:42:47.240 divorce not

01:42:48.200 only do we

01:42:48.700 discourage it

01:42:49.420 you know I'm a

01:42:51.080 mackerel snapping

01:42:51.740 papist a member

01:42:52.540 of the Catholic

01:42:53.080 faith I'm

01:42:53.780 Catholic too

01:42:54.420 you're Catholic

01:42:55.440 also I'm also

01:42:56.100 Catholic so

01:42:57.020 marvelous yeah

01:42:58.240 yeah we do

01:43:00.320 not Catholics are

01:43:01.120 not immune to

01:43:02.040 divorce I have

01:43:02.800 seen it I've

01:43:03.860 seen I've seen

01:43:04.340 people getting

01:43:04.880 married for the

01:43:05.380 second time they

01:43:06.020 still get

01:43:06.420 communion and

01:43:07.040 the number of

01:43:07.560 annulments is

01:43:08.180 going up that's

01:43:08.860 not listed the

01:43:09.480 number it's it's

01:43:10.560 but that's a

01:43:11.000 great but that's

01:43:11.700 no but I know

01:43:12.940 but it doesn't

01:43:13.880 matter because it

01:43:14.640 happens all the

01:43:15.280 time but you

01:43:15.980 can and so

01:43:16.560 no it totally

01:43:17.880 I see someone

01:43:18.760 who calls himself

01:43:19.440 a record we have

01:43:20.260 a record number of

01:43:21.320 annulments this

01:43:22.100 year in the

01:43:22.680 Catholic Church

01:43:23.500 you cannot the

01:43:24.500 Catholic Church is

01:43:25.280 getting more let

01:43:25.920 you you see the

01:43:26.680 Pope and I

01:43:27.720 think we could

01:43:28.160 agree on this

01:43:28.840 the Pope for

01:43:30.020 you know all of

01:43:31.260 the liberal

01:43:33.440 statements that have

01:43:34.900 appeared in the

01:43:35.300 press under his

01:43:36.000 name the Pope is

01:43:37.580 generally pretty

01:43:38.280 good on matters

01:43:39.020 of sex and

01:43:40.200 marriage he's

01:43:41.460 pretty clear

01:43:42.520 when you say

01:43:44.880 you know Catholics

01:43:45.760 get divorced it

01:43:46.340 has happened

01:43:46.900 there's a

01:43:47.420 distinction

01:43:47.680 it's around I

01:43:48.960 looked it up

01:43:49.680 before this it's

01:43:50.320 around 25 35

01:43:51.560 that's how yeah

01:43:52.400 it's around yeah

01:43:53.540 it's around 35%

01:43:55.120 and so that's not

01:43:55.960 a small percentage

01:43:56.980 what's the national

01:43:57.640 average like 45%

01:43:59.020 roughly so

01:44:00.060 well I 2024 it

01:44:01.660 was 50

01:44:02.200 have we gone

01:44:02.860 so I know

01:44:03.900 everyone's sorry I

01:44:04.680 thought I thought

01:44:05.160 you said to 15

01:44:06.080 55 was that

01:44:07.740 right

01:44:07.940 1502

01:44:08.580 oh shit sorry

01:44:09.500 sorry there you

01:44:10.300 go no worries

01:44:11.360 so um what I

01:44:14.840 was trying to get

01:44:15.420 at with that is

01:44:15.940 that like he

01:44:17.440 tried to say

01:44:17.900 like well the

01:44:18.360 difference between

01:44:18.980 him and it's

01:44:20.340 not the money

01:44:20.860 um it was um

01:44:24.620 he's more godly

01:44:26.140 his faith yes

01:44:27.320 his faith and

01:44:28.380 that's great like

01:44:29.920 yes prayer

01:44:31.580 changes God

01:44:32.840 could do amazing

01:44:33.640 things we know

01:44:34.820 that's true okay

01:44:36.060 like literally

01:44:38.080 it's true God

01:44:39.840 we know you

01:44:40.460 know what

01:44:40.800 out of all the

01:44:41.540 people in the

01:44:41.960 world you and

01:44:43.060 I have connected

01:44:44.120 and we became

01:44:44.700 friends and we

01:44:45.200 have worked

01:44:45.520 together is that

01:44:47.060 by mere coincidence

01:44:47.900 or could God

01:44:48.560 have divine

01:44:49.620 intervention that

01:44:50.820 the whole ordeal

01:44:51.800 who knows I

01:44:53.060 would like to

01:44:53.480 think that it's a

01:44:54.000 blessing you know

01:44:54.960 that our paths

01:44:55.500 crossed and we

01:44:56.000 became friends and

01:44:56.800 work together so

01:44:57.460 well that's a

01:44:58.540 blessing that

01:44:59.040 could have been

01:44:59.360 from God so

01:45:00.520 it's like to

01:45:01.340 say that we

01:45:01.920 don't like I

01:45:02.480 met Nick and

01:45:03.140 Steve they all

01:45:03.940 they're part of

01:45:04.500 my group you

01:45:05.560 know like that

01:45:06.140 that could be a

01:45:06.780 blessing from God

01:45:07.580 to say that like

01:45:08.620 God may not have

01:45:09.380 had his hand in

01:45:10.140 it would be silly

01:45:11.100 so to say that

01:45:12.320 God you know

01:45:12.940 prayer can't change

01:45:14.040 things and that

01:45:14.760 God cannot do

01:45:15.580 things is is

01:45:16.840 that would be

01:45:17.900 ridiculous but

01:45:19.200 that doesn't

01:45:20.020 necessarily mean you

01:45:21.520 could pray against

01:45:22.320 someone else's

01:45:23.280 will so if

01:45:25.180 Nick's will is

01:45:26.100 not to do what

01:45:27.120 he's ought to do

01:45:28.020 regardless if I'm

01:45:29.140 praying for him to

01:45:30.020 do what he ought

01:45:30.660 to do that doesn't

01:45:31.720 necessarily mean

01:45:32.360 that's gonna happen

01:45:32.960 yeah and that's

01:45:34.100 what I was trying

01:45:34.600 to say I'm like

01:45:35.160 have you not have

01:45:35.980 you never had a

01:45:36.460 woman leave you

01:45:37.200 I'm like you

01:45:38.320 cannot just say

01:45:39.040 anything we are

01:45:39.720 not rational I'm

01:45:41.520 like we'll make

01:45:42.060 up I see girls on

01:45:43.380 TikTok saying they

01:45:44.280 want to leave

01:45:44.880 because I don't

01:45:46.820 know they want to

01:45:47.340 find themselves what

01:45:48.340 the fuck does that

01:45:49.140 mean sorry potty

01:45:50.260 mouth but it's like

01:45:51.120 what the I'm like

01:45:52.960 it's not a rational

01:45:54.840 thing it's not like

01:45:55.880 the women are really

01:45:57.420 considering God

01:45:58.600 when they're

01:45:59.000 breaking up their

01:45:59.680 family you know

01:46:01.580 but but I'll just

01:46:03.940 I'm just a feminist

01:46:06.180 so I guess I had

01:46:07.380 an elder in the

01:46:08.140 church so I had

01:46:09.200 an elder in the

01:46:09.780 church when they

01:46:11.340 first started learning

01:46:12.240 that I was having

01:46:13.420 issues with my ex

01:46:14.720 and he noted how

01:46:16.920 like before they

01:46:17.720 had dealt with

01:46:18.220 this is like no

01:46:18.880 matter what they

01:46:19.660 do the woman gets

01:46:21.280 it in her mind to

01:46:22.120 leave there's almost

01:46:22.840 nothing they can do

01:46:24.040 to stop it

01:46:24.680 yeah

01:46:27.420 yeah I agree

01:46:28.380 and unfortunately

01:46:29.360 that that was

01:46:32.440 correct

01:46:32.920 so

01:46:36.840 you know so

01:46:40.460 the next clip I

01:46:41.860 wanted to go to

01:46:42.560 Pearl

01:46:42.920 hey can I

01:46:44.180 interrupt here

01:46:45.300 oh yeah go ahead

01:46:46.160 Steve

01:46:46.440 I wanted to

01:46:47.700 point out what I

01:46:49.080 think Michael

01:46:50.620 Knowles big blind

01:46:52.320 spot is

01:46:53.360 and okay his

01:46:59.920 he believes that

01:47:01.960 reason logic and

01:47:04.400 discipline govern

01:47:06.720 both men and

01:47:07.780 women and Pearl

01:47:09.660 pointed this out

01:47:10.600 the reality is the

01:47:12.580 women act and

01:47:13.840 decide based on

01:47:14.920 feelings and not

01:47:16.900 reason

01:47:17.460 you know that's

01:47:22.080 where everything

01:47:22.820 it's the what

01:47:24.780 ought to be

01:47:25.740 versus what is

01:47:27.220 and just go to

01:47:28.280 Proverbs 14

01:47:29.340 the wise woman

01:47:30.440 builds her house

01:47:31.460 but the foolish

01:47:32.660 pulls it down with

01:47:33.680 her own hands

01:47:34.520 what's happening

01:47:35.560 in our what's

01:47:36.800 happening in

01:47:37.300 marriage and

01:47:37.780 divorce the

01:47:38.920 woman is tearing

01:47:40.320 down her house

01:47:41.240 go ahead

01:47:45.860 told that to my

01:47:46.720 ex before crap

01:47:47.600 happened it

01:47:48.100 didn't go over

01:47:48.700 well

01:47:49.000 well I'm like

01:47:52.600 I'm like ladies

01:47:54.460 okay this is to

01:47:55.160 the women the

01:47:55.740 like two women

01:47:56.440 watching this show

01:47:57.320 and come on

01:47:58.680 haven't you guys

01:47:59.320 ever been pissed

01:48:00.280 haven't you guys

01:48:01.020 ever been real

01:48:01.800 pissed about

01:48:02.440 something now

01:48:03.880 if you're watching

01:48:04.500 this I've noticed

01:48:05.240 that when women

01:48:05.800 come up to me

01:48:06.360 it's generally

01:48:06.860 younger women so

01:48:07.900 maybe you guys

01:48:08.440 are a young woman

01:48:09.060 I don't know

01:48:09.480 doubt it but who

01:48:10.280 knows maybe there's

01:48:10.820 like one in the

01:48:11.360 chat have you

01:48:13.740 ever calmed down

01:48:14.780 and realized you

01:48:15.780 were wrong or

01:48:16.780 just completely

01:48:17.600 irrational and you

01:48:19.440 just had a complete

01:48:20.280 like come on

01:48:21.740 come like can we

01:48:23.060 just be real here

01:48:23.980 we're not we're

01:48:24.520 not rational beings

01:48:25.980 I mean look at

01:48:26.940 our spending habits

01:48:28.020 we spend money on

01:48:29.760 the like we all

01:48:30.620 went and ran to

01:48:31.800 that target to

01:48:32.800 spend like a

01:48:33.280 thousand dollars on

01:48:34.040 a cup or five

01:48:35.380 you guys know

01:48:35.780 what I'm talking

01:48:36.140 about why would

01:48:37.840 it be different in

01:48:39.220 marriage and

01:48:39.740 relationships why

01:48:40.800 why would it

01:48:41.440 we don't make

01:48:42.860 rational decisions

01:48:43.720 in any other

01:48:44.460 area of our

01:48:45.620 life we get

01:48:46.680 like gender

01:48:47.200 fluid studies

01:48:48.660 degrees

01:48:49.200 anyways

01:48:51.620 um what's

01:48:52.960 I just wonder

01:48:53.380 I just I have

01:48:54.200 a question like

01:48:54.960 Pearl like why

01:48:55.620 do women take

01:48:56.420 women's studies

01:48:57.100 like y'all y'all

01:48:58.580 women y'all should

01:48:59.300 know about

01:48:59.700 yourselves like I

01:49:00.620 understand like

01:49:01.180 men taking women

01:49:02.060 studies trying to

01:49:02.800 learn more about

01:49:03.380 the we're trying

01:49:04.080 to understand

01:49:04.720 ourselves

01:49:05.460 okay that's a

01:49:07.440 side note

01:49:07.920 we had to find

01:49:09.300 ourselves so we

01:49:10.100 found ourselves in

01:49:11.420 the women's studies

01:49:12.320 apparently apparently

01:49:14.920 okay what's the

01:49:15.720 next one I'm not

01:49:17.280 going to go through

01:49:17.700 all of them because

01:49:18.520 there's like I have

01:49:19.060 like 12 but I'll

01:49:20.420 hop around um let's

01:49:22.160 go to uh

01:49:23.220 150

01:49:25.840 one hour 50

01:49:28.040 minutes yeah one

01:49:29.220 hour 50 minutes

01:49:30.120 and end at one

01:49:31.780 hour and 54

01:49:32.820 minutes

01:49:33.280 I just don't

01:49:38.600 think oh wait

01:49:39.660 sorry it's a

01:49:40.600 little one hour 50

01:49:41.500 right and then

01:49:43.480 54 you said 50

01:49:45.280 yeah and that

01:49:45.760 54

01:49:46.180 to do and that's

01:49:48.120 you mentioned

01:49:48.420 not you know but

01:49:49.540 I think you kind of

01:49:50.120 are not really

01:49:51.800 not really I just

01:49:53.440 don't think do you

01:49:55.220 have any it's because

01:49:57.220 it depends on the

01:49:58.000 guy my way how

01:49:59.400 do you know because

01:50:00.780 you would first ask

01:50:01.620 like what their

01:50:03.020 situation is every

01:50:04.120 person has a

01:50:04.840 different situation

01:50:05.840 but every every man

01:50:07.220 we're talking about

01:50:07.820 is a man there are

01:50:08.740 some things that are

01:50:09.260 common to men like

01:50:10.540 human nature and

01:50:12.240 marriage being a

01:50:13.080 natural institution is

01:50:14.020 something that is

01:50:14.500 common to men throughout

01:50:15.320 all of history but it's

01:50:15.900 not it's not the way

01:50:16.720 we do it today some of

01:50:18.980 us marriage today is

01:50:20.060 not marriage anymore

01:50:21.180 it's not it's not

01:50:23.100 marriage when I think

01:50:24.040 I think it's not it's

01:50:25.040 not marriage today is

01:50:26.400 not marriage anymore

01:50:27.500 what do you mean by

01:50:28.340 that when the average

01:50:29.160 marriage is seven to

01:50:30.340 eight years oh when

01:50:31.720 90 when women leave

01:50:34.520 70 to 80 percent of

01:50:35.740 the time when women

01:50:37.820 can file abuse or can

01:50:39.860 accuse you of abuse on

01:50:41.000 the way out the door

01:50:41.620 when women can put you

01:50:42.440 on child support when

01:50:43.320 women can put you on

01:50:44.080 there are many it is

01:50:45.260 not marriage anymore I

01:50:46.660 totally agree and

01:50:47.660 they were confused

01:50:48.300 about marriage I

01:50:49.920 totally and so again

01:50:51.620 you know you're I have a

01:50:55.160 hard time telling men to

01:50:58.300 sign up for an

01:50:59.100 institution almost

01:51:01.100 blindly I don't think

01:51:03.000 with with with the

01:51:04.700 consequences that come

01:51:06.160 with it don't you think

01:51:07.420 and I've I've seen men

01:51:08.820 on the other side of

01:51:10.060 it men are nine times

01:51:11.540 more likely to commit

01:51:12.560 suicide after divorce

01:51:14.100 yeah they're they're

01:51:15.220 they're they're and it

01:51:17.740 ruins men's lives every

01:51:19.360 day but we don't just

01:51:20.200 that's not something we

01:51:20.780 disagree on but what

01:51:22.980 I it's sometimes it

01:51:24.100 sounds like you guys

01:51:24.900 downplay it by how I

01:51:27.160 don't think so I just

01:51:27.780 think we you know

01:51:29.780 you're you're denying

01:51:30.580 that you're advising

01:51:31.240 men to do anything

01:51:31.940 even though you're

01:51:32.360 saying it would be a

01:51:32.920 good strategy no I

01:51:33.760 don't I don't tell men

01:51:35.280 what to do one man

01:51:36.320 might find that

01:51:37.040 Christian that's why

01:51:40.480 I'm like you understand

01:51:41.900 what I'm so why are

01:51:42.560 you pretending you

01:51:43.140 don't understand what

01:51:43.900 I'm saying so

01:51:44.740 frustrated okay didn't

01:51:46.280 check you said to

01:51:47.000 54 right yeah 54 yeah

01:51:49.280 well and nowhere that

01:51:50.200 goes to Latin mass one

01:51:52.000 man might not find one

01:51:53.400 close to him at all one

01:51:55.520 and even I've even I

01:51:56.800 know someone that

01:51:57.420 runs a matchmaking

01:51:58.580 service for like Latin

01:51:59.760 mass right it's good

01:52:01.460 no they're having the

01:52:02.380 same problems and this

01:52:04.600 is for the Latin

01:52:05.360 community I know someone

01:52:06.540 that runs one he tells

01:52:07.940 me the same thing

01:52:08.580 there's too many men

01:52:09.360 there's not enough

01:52:09.860 women in in this

01:52:10.900 specific one yeah and

01:52:13.000 and the women are a bit

01:52:14.740 too high of standards a

01:52:16.800 bit there's a great

01:52:17.980 have you ever been to

01:52:19.240 the so it's like yeah

01:52:21.100 yeah but my point is so

01:52:23.000 80 to 80 percent of the

01:52:24.660 time when women can

01:52:27.000 file abuse or can

01:52:28.700 accuse you of abuse on

01:52:29.840 the way out the door

01:52:30.460 when women can put you

01:52:31.260 on child support when

01:52:32.160 women can put you on

01:52:32.920 element there are many

01:52:33.760 it is not marriage

01:52:34.860 anymore I totally agree

01:52:36.060 and we're confused about

01:52:37.360 marriage I totally and

01:52:39.140 so again you know you're

01:52:41.820 you're I have a hard time

01:52:44.960 telling men to sign up for

01:52:47.780 an institution almost

01:52:49.940 blindly I don't think

01:52:51.840 with with with the

01:52:53.540 consequences that come

01:52:55.000 with it don't you think

01:52:56.260 and I've I've seen men

01:52:57.660 on the other side of it

01:52:59.120 men are nine times more

01:53:00.600 likely to commit suicide

01:53:01.880 after divorce yeah

01:53:03.240 divorce they're they're

01:53:04.060 they're and it ruins men's

01:53:07.580 lives every day but we

01:53:08.780 don't just that's not

01:53:09.340 something we disagree on

01:53:10.240 but what it's sometimes it

01:53:12.940 sounds like you guys

01:53:13.740 downplay it by how I don't

01:53:16.120 think so I just think we

01:53:17.780 you know you're you're

01:53:19.140 denying that you're

01:53:19.780 advising men to do

01:53:20.500 anything even though

01:53:21.100 you're saying it would be

01:53:21.660 a good strategy no I

01:53:22.580 don't I don't tell them

01:53:24.140 what to do one man might

01:53:25.400 find that Christian virgin

01:53:27.000 chick in the middle of

01:53:28.540 nowhere that goes to

01:53:29.460 Latin mass one man might

01:53:31.420 not find one close to him

01:53:33.280 at all one and even I've

01:53:35.340 even I know someone that

01:53:36.260 runs a matchmaking service

01:53:37.840 for like Latin mass right

01:53:40.080 it's got no they're having

01:53:41.060 the same problems and this

01:53:43.460 is for the Latin community I

01:53:44.920 know someone that runs one he

01:53:46.620 tells me the same thing

01:53:47.440 there's too many men there's

01:53:48.420 not enough women in in this

01:53:49.740 specific one yeah and and

01:53:52.320 the women are a bit too high

01:53:54.420 of standards a bit there's

01:53:56.580 a great have you ever been

01:53:57.980 to the so it's like yeah but

01:54:00.280 my point is so you're going

01:54:02.540 into the churches you're

01:54:03.520 finding the same problems

01:54:04.680 outside of the churches

01:54:05.700 maybe some of them are a

01:54:06.780 little slower some of them

01:54:08.440 are a little slower to hit

01:54:09.600 right like Latin mass I

01:54:11.380 would say it's one of the

01:54:12.120 better ones but there's still

01:54:13.720 a record number of

01:54:14.780 annulments we still see more

01:54:16.400 again not not among the

01:54:17.840 dreads but but in the

01:54:18.980 Catholic Church broadly the

01:54:19.920 annulments have gone up

01:54:20.660 correct and so my point is

01:54:23.960 you know it's going to be

01:54:25.740 tough to convince men to

01:54:27.840 join these things when even

01:54:28.960 the churches seem to be going

01:54:30.540 left yeah I agree but the

01:54:31.840 churches are teaching

01:54:32.920 egalitarianism like this is

01:54:35.320 you know I go to I went to

01:54:37.140 and I know a lot of these are

01:54:38.780 anecdotes but I just when you

01:54:40.540 start to interview as many

01:54:41.580 people as I have you start to

01:54:43.020 see patterns and you know I

01:54:45.200 I'm hearing from men that the

01:54:47.020 church makes their wives

01:54:48.160 worse not better because

01:54:50.000 they're being told in Bible

01:54:51.220 like they're being told in in

01:54:53.780 you know their their Bible

01:54:55.640 studies that they're women

01:54:56.880 led you know and they get all

01:54:59.340 these

01:54:59.460 heretics and schismatics have

01:55:00.260 created problems for all of

01:55:01.320 history

01:55:01.520 yeah yeah yeah but but I don't

01:55:03.720 think this church is a fail

01:55:05.420 safe

01:55:05.520 in a society that pays women to

01:55:09.660 leave

01:55:09.920 yeah no there's risk in

01:55:10.720 everything but but to your to

01:55:12.080 your point Pearl you you've

01:55:13.120 said that look you're not

01:55:14.840 prescribing anything you're

01:55:16.340 just observing how things are

01:55:17.420 and the men don't want to get

01:55:18.160 married and right I guess what

01:55:20.160 I'm observing is that men still

01:55:22.520 like women even with all the

01:55:23.840 kind of weird rainbow stuff

01:55:24.980 men still like women women still

01:55:26.740 like men and they're still

01:55:27.980 going to get together and

01:55:29.440 they're still going to desire

01:55:30.200 children or at the very least

01:55:31.240 they're going to do the things

01:55:32.040 that lead to children and so

01:55:33.680 that's going to happen whether

01:55:35.860 you would

01:55:36.240 okay that's 54

01:55:37.660 all right so did you notice

01:55:40.240 like

01:55:40.640 okay everyone said

01:55:42.780 how many times

01:55:43.820 sorry

01:55:44.820 did you notice how many times

01:55:46.020 he like deflected

01:55:47.180 like you guys how many times

01:55:50.280 you guys count him deflecting

01:55:51.320 I counted at least three times

01:55:52.620 everyone said I was

01:55:53.140 deflecting

01:55:53.580 everyone said I was

01:55:54.520 interrupting but he

01:55:55.680 interrupted me there like 20

01:55:56.900 times

01:55:57.280 so everyone that said that

01:55:59.120 Pearl was the interrupter he

01:56:00.340 just did it to me like 20

01:56:01.240 times thank you

01:56:02.020 and each time it was a

01:56:05.000 deflection

01:56:05.460 you know like each time he

01:56:08.180 was just trying to deflect

01:56:09.080 to try to you know change

01:56:10.880 change it change your talking

01:56:12.340 point to something else

01:56:13.340 instead of addressing what

01:56:14.960 you were saying

01:56:15.500 so men yeah men are committing

01:56:17.600 suicide or self-deleting

01:56:19.400 they

01:56:19.940 nine you know nine times more

01:56:22.800 than than than anybody else

01:56:25.000 oh yeah divorce is just really

01:56:27.200 bad

01:56:27.540 okay what is the problem with

01:56:29.200 divorce

01:56:29.440 who's initiating it

01:56:30.940 like why don't we address

01:56:32.740 that you you want you want

01:56:34.880 men to get married

01:56:35.720 why don't you

01:56:36.820 you know trads start making

01:56:38.820 marriage really attractive

01:56:40.040 for men again

01:56:40.720 until you make it attractive

01:56:42.420 for men

01:56:42.940 you're not going to get men

01:56:44.440 involved

01:56:44.880 and he's like well men just

01:56:46.160 ought to do it because men

01:56:47.600 want to get with women

01:56:48.440 and you know men still like

01:56:51.080 women and men

01:56:51.860 you're going to want to sleep

01:56:52.760 with women so they should

01:56:53.800 just do it anyways

01:56:54.740 I don't know why

01:56:55.960 I don't know why

01:56:57.120 I was so

01:56:57.660 Americanism

01:57:03.300 the popes talked about this

01:57:05.520 back in the early 1900s

01:57:09.520 the husband

01:57:10.320 well and I'll paraphrase

01:57:12.060 the husband is ahead of the

01:57:13.260 the husband as the head of the wife

01:57:15.620 is held hostage to the feelings

01:57:18.000 of the wife

01:57:18.880 this is a modern understanding

01:57:21.080 his authority is only enabled

01:57:24.380 by consent of the governed

01:57:27.600 the wife's feelings

01:57:29.640 what what's the American mindset

01:57:33.660 what is our government

01:57:35.340 it's consent of the governed

01:57:38.020 which gives the authority

01:57:39.660 to people to govern us

01:57:41.540 so hey this thought

01:57:44.460 is uh entered into marriage

01:57:47.340 but prior

01:57:49.040 what hey were people married

01:57:51.780 prior to 1517

01:57:53.620 that was that's the year that

01:57:56.940 luther uh posted his uh what

01:58:00.600 99 theses on the door

01:58:03.500 of the wittenberg cathedral

01:58:04.960 and he was opposed to catholic church

01:58:07.580 which had some problems

01:58:09.180 but up until then

01:58:13.660 everyone believed there were

01:58:14.840 seven sacraments and marriage

01:58:16.300 was a sacrament

01:58:17.360 governed by the church

01:58:19.340 in order to take power away

01:58:21.660 from the catholic church

01:58:22.760 luther said

01:58:23.760 no the state governs marriage

01:58:25.840 and it's gone that way

01:58:28.280 ever since

01:58:29.000 you know pearl

01:58:34.640 it was funny when you asked them

01:58:36.040 like what has the conservatives

01:58:37.520 conserved

01:58:38.360 right

01:58:40.600 like you know it's like

01:58:43.300 well they really didn't do

01:58:44.480 any good job

01:58:45.320 conserving marriage

01:58:46.260 i mean

01:58:46.780 marriage used to be

01:58:48.200 between a man and a woman

01:58:49.080 because their strategies suck

01:58:50.740 their strategies are just

01:58:52.000 oh

01:58:52.340 divorce is bad

01:58:53.800 men get married anyway

01:58:55.060 good freaking luck

01:58:56.360 good luck

01:58:57.500 and then i'm the bad guy

01:58:58.620 for saying

01:58:59.140 i'm the bad guy

01:59:00.580 pearl's the bad guy

01:59:02.600 pearl's the bad guy

01:59:03.900 for saying

01:59:04.340 hey guys

01:59:05.280 hey guys

01:59:05.820 you know

01:59:06.740 i might

01:59:07.280 i think divorce

01:59:08.500 might be okay

01:59:09.580 you know i have also said

01:59:10.800 ban divorce

01:59:11.440 in the in the in the past

01:59:13.080 and i had to walk that back

01:59:15.180 because you know

01:59:15.940 there's paternity fraud

01:59:17.520 there's women that won't sleep

01:59:19.120 with their husbands

01:59:20.000 there there's absolute wrenches

01:59:22.720 of wives that just make

01:59:24.140 their husbands lives

01:59:25.180 miserable every day

01:59:26.580 you know

01:59:27.480 but then i'm a feminist

01:59:29.120 that's what they do

01:59:31.040 you know what cracked me up

01:59:31.640 is like

01:59:32.000 pearl's a feminist

01:59:32.340 pearl's a

01:59:33.680 for saying hey

01:59:35.460 hey maybe we shouldn't

01:59:37.680 be able to steal men's children

01:59:39.500 call me a feminist

01:59:40.840 that's so crazy

01:59:41.920 the part that cracked me up

01:59:44.000 is like he's like you know

01:59:45.180 yeah i think that we

01:59:47.000 you know

01:59:47.440 reformed only fans

01:59:49.760 you know

01:59:50.620 maybe she gets a chance

01:59:52.300 maybe she gets a chance

01:59:54.400 i'm sitting there like bro

01:59:56.020 you know what

01:59:56.580 i get it

01:59:57.340 i understand why he said that

01:59:58.900 okay

01:59:59.800 i after doing some research

02:00:01.920 i found out

02:00:03.160 something a little special

02:00:04.420 about michael nolz

02:00:05.320 in his previous life

02:00:07.080 and um

02:00:07.720 you know

02:00:09.200 he was an actor

02:00:10.000 and you know what

02:00:11.060 as an actor

02:00:11.680 sometimes you get really bad roles

02:00:13.080 and he didn't get the best role

02:00:14.940 so i would understand

02:00:16.060 that why he would want

02:00:17.200 some forgiveness

02:00:17.940 in his life

02:00:19.040 for that role

02:00:19.680 but

02:00:20.560 when

02:00:21.760 when

02:00:22.120 i want a more clip

02:00:23.200 i want to play pearl

02:00:24.040 because it kind of talks

02:00:25.140 about his son

02:00:25.800 and i think this is the one

02:00:26.940 that like really

02:00:27.720 he just loses

02:00:28.900 this is like

02:00:30.280 the most losing statement

02:00:31.780 he can make

02:00:32.380 okay

02:00:32.740 what

02:00:33.040 all right

02:00:33.340 what part

02:00:33.940 i think it's um

02:00:36.260 155

02:00:38.100 okay

02:00:39.040 in 30 seconds

02:00:41.180 to 202

02:00:42.980 35 seconds

02:00:44.160 okay

02:00:44.740 i'm gonna go full screen

02:00:46.360 for the risk

02:00:47.780 for men

02:00:48.720 okay

02:00:49.400 the the utopia

02:00:50.880 wait i'm sorry

02:00:51.340 what was the end time

02:00:52.180 um

02:00:53.760 end time is uh

02:00:54.680 202

02:00:55.700 202

02:00:56.440 35 seconds

02:00:57.100 okay

02:00:57.360 yeah you're asking for

02:00:59.260 isn't going to return

02:01:00.340 utopia

02:01:00.860 i'm describing

02:01:01.280 the human condition

02:01:01.940 for all of history

02:01:02.500 okay but but what you're asking for

02:01:04.280 the families will not return

02:01:05.920 and so i'm almost like

02:01:07.580 trying to

02:01:08.140 to plead with the trad cops

02:01:10.180 like

02:01:10.520 like

02:01:11.060 you are not going to get anywhere

02:01:13.580 shaming men for not getting married

02:01:15.660 the only way

02:01:16.760 that you are going to see progress

02:01:18.460 won't you

02:01:18.980 is by making the institution

02:01:21.020 more fair for men

02:01:22.300 and giving fathers access

02:01:23.760 to their children

02:01:24.740 when you say

02:01:25.280 make the institution

02:01:25.960 more fair for men

02:01:26.560 you're saying

02:01:26.940 make divorce

02:01:28.020 a little nicer for men

02:01:29.340 i i think divorce is the problem

02:01:31.220 no i

02:01:32.100 not the solution

02:01:32.800 i agree with you

02:01:33.840 i i don't believe

02:01:34.620 like i don't

02:01:35.200 i don't

02:01:36.480 i don't believe in divorce

02:01:38.160 okay so if we could ban

02:01:39.480 divorce tomorrow

02:01:40.140 great

02:01:40.560 but i think i think

02:01:41.740 for the time being

02:01:42.740 so if we we could do that

02:01:44.120 yeah

02:01:44.420 let's go

02:01:45.300 yeah

02:01:45.660 right

02:01:46.500 but but for the time being

02:01:48.460 it's like

02:01:49.060 okay at least

02:01:50.460 you know

02:01:50.860 the

02:01:51.660 the

02:01:53.180 there should be

02:01:54.900 mandatory dna testing

02:01:56.240 at birth

02:01:56.760 no

02:01:57.280 i don't know why

02:01:58.040 you

02:01:58.420 okay

02:01:58.920 because

02:01:59.400 it's calling my wife

02:02:01.000 a whore to do that

02:02:01.840 i mean it's ridiculous

02:02:02.660 why okay

02:02:03.480 because the assumption

02:02:04.540 of the man

02:02:05.160 first of all mandatory

02:02:06.240 good grief

02:02:06.680 but the the premise of it

02:02:08.460 is that my wife

02:02:09.060 is sleeping around

02:02:09.740 okay so

02:02:10.340 so

02:02:10.540 i'm quite confident

02:02:11.040 my wife is not sleeping

02:02:11.820 the woman feels icky

02:02:13.480 for a little bit

02:02:14.620 but then

02:02:15.360 the man feels it

02:02:16.160 i would feel quite icky

02:02:17.220 the woman feels icky

02:02:19.140 for a little bit

02:02:20.120 fine maybe the man

02:02:21.020 feels icky

02:02:21.760 certainly

02:02:22.120 you're calling his wife

02:02:23.300 a whore

02:02:23.580 him a cuckold

02:02:24.260 it prevents men

02:02:25.780 from being put on

02:02:27.120 child support

02:02:27.820 and raising kids

02:02:28.720 that aren't theirs

02:02:29.520 you're saying

02:02:29.960 and if people want

02:02:30.700 to opt out of it

02:02:31.620 fine fine

02:02:32.540 you can opt out

02:02:33.240 so it's not mandatory

02:02:33.980 but

02:02:34.680 it's voluntary

02:02:35.720 but there are

02:02:36.220 it is voluntary

02:02:36.780 i i i think

02:02:38.800 it would be better

02:02:39.440 if it was mandatory

02:02:40.480 i think that's a better

02:02:41.580 so then the men

02:02:42.000 can't opt out

02:02:42.640 oh my gosh

02:02:43.540 what are you

02:02:44.080 i'm just trying

02:02:45.760 to figure out

02:02:46.140 what you're saying

02:02:46.440 okay i would say

02:02:47.780 mandatory dna testing

02:02:49.460 at birth

02:02:49.820 that i think

02:02:50.660 would be better

02:02:51.260 but

02:02:53.160 even though the men

02:02:53.860 don't want it

02:02:54.380 look it

02:02:54.780 so you're telling

02:02:55.480 a man now

02:02:56.080 you're contradicting

02:02:56.860 what a man has to say

02:02:57.880 because you haven't

02:02:58.760 been in that situation

02:02:59.940 do you know what i've

02:03:00.800 been in birthing rooms

02:03:01.960 a couple times

02:03:02.600 why do you guys make

02:03:03.380 light of like situations

02:03:04.980 that girl i think

02:03:06.100 i have been in the

02:03:06.840 situation and you have

02:03:07.780 not i've been in the

02:03:08.740 birthing room twice

02:03:09.540 no i'm talking no no

02:03:10.740 i'm talking about

02:03:11.720 about a man raising

02:03:13.120 a child that's not

02:03:14.040 his oh yeah

02:03:14.680 it's not an uncommon

02:03:15.400 thing at least one of

02:03:16.120 my kids looks like

02:03:16.820 the other one looks

02:03:17.640 a lot like my

02:03:18.140 no but okay but

02:03:19.440 we're trying to make

02:03:20.060 jokes but this stuff

02:03:20.940 is serious michael

02:03:22.560 like this is serious

02:03:23.540 like i guess i guess

02:03:25.260 okay but it's it's so

02:03:26.760 frustrating how little

02:03:28.200 empathy it's like i'm

02:03:29.440 like sorry i'm like

02:03:31.080 this is a serious

02:03:32.060 she's like oh i had a

02:03:33.100 i had a birthing room

02:03:34.220 i i've had a kid i'm

02:03:35.660 like i've interviewed

02:03:37.900 oh sorry you can bring

02:03:39.540 it back up i just i get

02:03:41.080 so frustrated guys

02:03:42.260 because i'm trying to

02:03:43.540 have a serious

02:03:44.260 conversation i'm i'm

02:03:46.380 trying to have a

02:03:46.940 serious conversation

02:03:47.940 conversation about

02:03:48.440 these issues and

02:03:49.640 we're making jokes

02:03:50.500 you know and i look

02:03:52.320 and i can be a

02:03:52.920 jokester too i get it

02:03:54.180 but i'm like can we

02:03:54.880 can we talk about how

02:03:56.200 these affect men

02:03:57.160 seriously for for a

02:03:58.700 minute without getting

02:03:59.660 interrupted anyways go

02:04:01.260 on i i don't think it's

02:04:02.700 intentional just so you

02:04:03.580 guys know i don't think

02:04:04.400 any of this is like

02:04:05.300 intentional by him i

02:04:07.060 just think a lot of

02:04:07.800 them don't know okay

02:04:09.240 bring it back up

02:04:10.580 oh no he knows

02:04:11.960 okay we'll we'll get

02:04:14.600 into that well what

02:04:15.680 you said the ending

02:04:16.500 was two minutes

02:04:17.400 um yeah two minutes

02:04:21.280 35 let it run to 207

02:04:23.120 because this i think

02:04:23.800 that's when he talks

02:04:24.280 about his son okay

02:04:25.060 207 the implication

02:04:26.460 the implication though

02:04:27.360 is that uh you know

02:04:29.180 in two percent or

02:04:30.240 whatever you know

02:04:31.060 where the woman has

02:04:31.660 slept cheated or

02:04:32.660 something and again

02:04:33.940 you know we're

02:04:34.340 bringing in lots of

02:04:35.040 different demographics

02:04:35.800 and social circumstances

02:04:37.120 here but in that case

02:04:38.280 that what then the

02:04:39.060 parents get divorced i

02:04:40.120 thought you just said

02:04:40.520 we're gonna ban

02:04:41.180 divorce no no no um

02:04:44.000 well okay if she's

02:04:45.620 committing fraud then

02:04:46.880 yeah she's committing

02:04:48.160 adultery but you think

02:04:49.540 adultery is grounds for

02:04:50.480 divorce i thought you

02:04:51.680 said we're gonna ban

02:04:52.220 divorce this is what i

02:04:54.820 mean by the liberal kind

02:04:56.080 of thing that's creeping

02:04:57.000 into you okay i'll i'll

02:04:57.880 give i'll give a couple

02:04:58.860 exceptions you know but

02:05:00.760 i am personally i don't

02:05:05.220 know if banning divorce

02:05:06.320 i think you're trying to

02:05:08.860 railroad me off of the

02:05:10.160 real issues i'm not i'm

02:05:11.180 trying to know what you're

02:05:12.300 but but i want articulating

02:05:13.600 and you're contradicting

02:05:14.380 yourself i'm not i'm not

02:05:15.520 contradicting myself you

02:05:16.980 just did you said we'll

02:05:17.740 have mandatory testing we

02:05:18.820 won't have mandatory

02:05:19.380 because i was trying to

02:05:21.620 i was trying to compromise

02:05:22.540 here because i you said

02:05:24.360 you felt icky i said fine

02:05:25.680 michael knowles will get

02:05:26.560 the note i get the

02:05:27.440 exception yeah you can be

02:05:28.680 the exception all right

02:05:29.320 well that's good i'm happy

02:05:30.400 to be an exception but my

02:05:31.540 my whole point is that you

02:05:34.280 know this stuff is serious

02:05:36.120 michael and you are not

02:05:37.600 going to see marriage

02:05:38.700 return until you start

02:05:39.880 enacting policies that

02:05:41.540 protect men from the

02:05:43.300 institution of marriage as

02:05:44.660 it is today oh sure yeah

02:05:46.220 but we don't disagree on

02:05:47.120 that right then what's the

02:05:49.320 what's the argument for

02:05:50.540 what marriage is why it's

02:05:51.980 still good to do uh no

02:05:53.880 matter what the policies

02:05:55.100 are why man is inclined

02:05:56.280 toward it any policy yeah i

02:05:58.920 think marriage is always

02:05:59.800 good any any policy yeah i

02:06:02.500 think any country in the

02:06:03.280 world at any time in

02:06:04.020 history it's basically good

02:06:05.300 to get married so so a guy

02:06:06.720 okay so if they make a

02:06:08.560 policy that i'm gonna think

02:06:13.900 something crazy i mean even

02:06:17.020 the policies that are today

02:06:18.480 it's like you know that if

02:06:25.680 so really any policy wait what

02:06:30.720 what

02:06:32.360 so the question for because i

02:06:51.400 have a microphone on was if my

02:06:53.200 son were married and his wife

02:06:55.820 cheated on him and had a kid

02:06:57.460 by another man would i support

02:06:59.320 my son yeah i do not support

02:07:02.560 divorce under any

02:07:03.880 circumstances so uh yeah i

02:07:05.540 think what yeah i

02:07:06.440 he doesn't say that but the

02:07:17.680 question so the question that

02:07:18.340 was brought up from off camera

02:07:19.720 was uh what about the so-called

02:07:21.680 acceptive clause in the gospel

02:07:23.580 of saint matthew where our lord

02:07:24.940 says what god has joined let no

02:07:26.060 man separate except for the case

02:07:27.900 of pornea and what's curious

02:07:29.940 about this um so-called

02:07:32.460 acceptive clause which in in

02:07:33.700 recent centuries some protestants

02:07:35.960 have interpreted to mean that if

02:07:37.560 your wife cheats on you you can

02:07:38.680 divorce her but which had had

02:07:40.580 not been understood that way for

02:07:41.780 no vast majority of the history

02:07:43.180 of the church and certainly and

02:07:44.240 still is the case in the

02:07:45.280 catholic church and and uh

02:07:46.840 elsewhere um i guess one way to

02:07:49.760 understand that and that

02:07:50.840 apparent contradiction with the

02:07:52.680 other synoptic gospels which do

02:07:54.420 not have the so-called

02:07:55.200 acceptive clause is to remember

02:07:56.640 that saint matthew is writing for a

02:07:58.420 jewish audience and there was a a

02:08:00.640 live debate at the time over uh

02:08:04.160 over the exception what what what

02:08:06.800 type of adulterous exception that

02:08:08.900 would imply and so one way of

02:08:10.780 understanding matthew chapter 19

02:08:12.420 and the acceptive clause is to say

02:08:14.000 actually what he's saying is let's

02:08:15.420 ignore this whole sort of um debate

02:08:17.880 that's taking place between various

02:08:19.120 jewish groups and just get to the

02:08:20.360 heart of the matter um but uh

02:08:22.640 furthermore the fact that you see

02:08:23.900 in the other gospels uh not repeated

02:08:26.000 with the acceptive clause would seem

02:08:27.500 to uh bolster the traditional view of

02:08:29.760 the church understood in the

02:08:30.640 magisterium and the deposit of faith

02:08:31.980 and articulated by the victor of

02:08:33.380 christ on earth that no you don't

02:08:35.000 get to to divorce just because you

02:08:36.680 cheat on your wife also because it

02:08:38.040 just at a natural level that would

02:08:39.540 create a perverse incentive such that

02:08:41.300 if two people don't like each other

02:08:42.840 there's an incentive to just go out

02:08:44.260 and cheat and dissolve the marriage

02:08:45.640 okay so if she if he's raising a kid

02:08:48.580 that's not his you you would support

02:08:50.140 them staying together i oppose divorce

02:08:51.980 in all circumstances yeah right there

02:08:54.640 conservative yeah i guess i guess

02:08:56.820 maybe i'm liberal in that one yeah

02:08:58.880 yep and yeah i like how it's so i like

02:09:01.640 how it's i like how they so

02:09:03.540 conveniently cut out the reason i said

02:09:06.900 i guess i'm liberal in that one

02:09:08.720 we need to clip that because that's

02:09:10.920 ridiculous no you're biblical on that

02:09:12.760 i'm i'm like okay okay i have to be

02:09:15.820 honest guys i think i think this

02:09:18.020 conversation made me want to be

02:09:20.300 catholic less because i'm like if

02:09:21.620 that's the teaching catholicism says

02:09:24.680 for that you have to stay with someone

02:09:27.480 who committed fraud that's the most

02:09:30.420 ridiculous thing i've ever heard

02:09:31.820 and i don't know if michael knowles

02:09:34.700 study went to any you know seminary or

02:09:37.840 study you can just call me not catholic

02:09:39.860 enough it's fine

02:09:40.740 i just don't know if he's ever studied

02:09:43.720 any theology or you know other than

02:09:46.220 being a layman in church because you

02:09:48.700 got two guys that have graduated in

02:09:51.640 theology here okay you got nick who is a

02:09:55.560 pastor for the presbyterians and i

02:09:57.160 graduated at liberty for theology and

02:09:59.400 say you know it's like no first of all

02:10:02.900 it does say jesus or god didn't want

02:10:05.780 divorce but he said because the

02:10:07.500 hardness of a heart you know um moses

02:10:10.260 allowed you to issue your wife divorce

02:10:12.500 for sexual immorality not adultery not

02:10:16.720 pornea it was sexual immorality and

02:10:19.540 sexual immorality is an umbrella term that

02:10:22.020 actually means a lot more than just

02:10:24.180 adultery but adultery being the one one

02:10:27.540 of the main things now mind you it was

02:10:29.820 also that only a man could divorce his

02:10:32.200 wife for adultery a wife could not

02:10:35.440 divorce her husband for adultery only a

02:10:38.280 man could serve his wife the letter of

02:10:40.580 divorce now god also divorced israel and

02:10:46.080 we see that in isaiah for what nick

02:10:48.960 please pastor nick give it to me what

02:10:53.240 about isaiah why did god issue isaiah

02:10:57.200 the israel divorce oh because they're

02:11:00.780 spreading their legs on every high hill

02:11:03.120 oh that's ezekiel but uh but yeah they

02:11:06.080 they rejected me go yeah so they were

02:11:09.680 worshiping other idols which was

02:11:11.680 basically adultery right mm-hmm okay so

02:11:17.300 even god divorced the nation of israel for

02:11:22.060 adultery okay and then he forgets the

02:11:26.280 fact that like even paul writes about

02:11:27.980 um you're able to divorce if your spouse

02:11:32.060 is a non-believer and they abandon you

02:11:34.500 then you're free from that yoke so he

02:11:37.200 doesn't acknowledge either one of those

02:11:41.140 two passages the problem i get to with

02:11:44.000 going on the like with the but i call

02:11:46.380 them the bible thumpers no offense guys

02:11:48.000 um but but it's like okay if i give them

02:11:52.800 a scripture they're just going to tell me

02:11:54.400 some interpretation of something like if i go

02:11:58.080 down all these arguments you know like even

02:12:00.740 what he was talking about i'm like i don't

02:12:02.200 even what when you said that that during the

02:12:06.520 debate i'm like uh-huh you know nothing new

02:12:10.260 at the end of the day michael knows is fine

02:12:12.280 with his son being a cuck and you know

02:12:15.140 being a cuckold and that's okay with him

02:12:18.540 i would say divorce and i'm pretty sure

02:12:22.220 i'm pretty sure the magisterium is wrong

02:12:25.820 but i couldn't tell you that for a fact

02:12:29.260 sitting here but that i don't think that's

02:12:32.660 the magisterium's view of divorce i think

02:12:35.840 they've always allowed adultery as a reason

02:12:39.040 for divorce i mean because it says it quite

02:12:42.180 clearly in scripture and as well like this is

02:12:47.580 really interesting if it's not repeated it's

02:12:49.420 still there this is really interesting because

02:12:52.880 i a couple weeks ago i sent glenn a podcast

02:12:58.080 on going through the church fathers and their

02:13:00.920 discussion of this issue and it's been

02:13:04.220 talked about for oh well two thousand years

02:13:08.600 and you know

02:13:10.880 it is we're not new here

02:13:14.440 and you know what per pearl's idea of the

02:13:19.100 a nuptial agreement i don't want to use the

02:13:22.300 word prenup a nuptial agreement with

02:13:25.000 getting uh genetic testing i think that's a

02:13:28.880 good idea because if you do it at that

02:13:32.180 point it's not calling into doubt anything

02:13:36.280 it's not accusing anybody of anything it's

02:13:39.280 just saying here's the law

02:13:40.540 i mean my dad my dad would always say trust

02:13:43.460 but verify with like what's wrong with trusting

02:13:45.660 but verifying

02:13:46.480 but let's recognize this force

02:13:50.080 will be used in marriage

02:13:52.880 now call it force or enforcement or whatever

02:13:57.340 someone has the power and it can be either the woman

02:14:01.840 or the man now our civil law gives the power to the woman

02:14:06.200 and then she will use it and oftentimes it's against men

02:14:12.760 or you can have a man have the power well he's the head of the household

02:14:18.100 and then go back to proverbs 14 the wise woman builds her house

02:14:22.560 but the foolish pulls it down with her hands give the authority to a woman

02:14:27.020 what's she gonna do with it destroy that's my experience

02:14:32.060 well i mean and michael noel seems to try to like be a logical person

02:14:36.820 and rational person so i'm gonna like argue him rationally

02:14:39.960 i guarantee you this that he does not know

02:14:43.940 what goes on with that pussy of his wife 24 hours a day

02:14:48.440 i guarantee you he's not always watching it

02:14:50.580 i guarantee you he's not always in it

02:14:52.400 i guarantee you he's not like has a camera on it

02:14:55.240 when he's away at work

02:14:56.620 or when he's traveling doing a speech

02:14:58.460 he doesn't know what's going on with it

02:15:00.240 he has to trust her and hope that nothing is going in there

02:15:03.300 now who knows whose baby that is in her belly

02:15:06.740 only the wife knows for a hundred percent fact

02:15:09.860 that that baby is hers

02:15:11.780 the man doesn't

02:15:13.120 so why wouldn't it just be easy just to put a blank in a law

02:15:20.080 saying that all babies need to get a paternity test

02:15:23.520 hey glenn i have a question for you

02:15:25.980 that just puts everybody on the equal honest playing field

02:15:29.520 do you know that the singer neo got conned for um raising a kid

02:15:35.340 or paying child support for a child that it wasn't his

02:15:38.100 and he didn't find out two years later

02:15:39.860 hey glenn i have a question for you

02:15:43.980 yeah

02:15:45.040 okay you know at the end of the ephesians 5

02:15:48.080 nasty stuff that we shouldn't talk about

02:15:50.780 doesn't it say a woman

02:15:52.580 should respect her man

02:15:54.820 her husband

02:15:56.340 and a husband should love his wife

02:15:59.580 now where

02:16:01.860 where does it say

02:16:03.940 that the husband

02:16:05.760 should trust his wife

02:16:07.660 where's that in the bible

02:16:09.440 doesn't say that

02:16:11.600 you know

02:16:12.480 it says it's a good thing

02:16:13.780 we know we shouldn't listen to our wives

02:16:15.420 you know we shouldn't listen to our wives

02:16:17.840 because

02:16:18.300 you know in genesis

02:16:20.380 why did adam get in trouble

02:16:21.860 what did god say to adam

02:16:24.000 in genesis

02:16:24.660 because you listen to your wife

02:16:28.160 and eat the fruit that i told you not to

02:16:30.040 see we're all in this

02:16:31.280 mess because adam decided to listen to his wife to begin with

02:16:34.360 so when she says it's yours

02:16:37.400 don't believe her

02:16:38.120 guys

02:16:40.060 guys

02:16:41.100 we have a thousand likes in here

02:16:42.980 there's a thousand three hundred of you in here

02:16:45.780 we should have a thousand three hundred likes

02:16:47.480 please don't

02:16:48.600 please don't

02:16:50.060 i'm sorry

02:16:51.180 i just i needed to say that

02:16:52.380 i i this is disrespectful

02:16:53.820 we're demonetized

02:16:55.360 we're putting on the show for free

02:16:56.780 free hit that like button

02:16:58.420 immediately

02:16:59.380 thank you

02:17:00.220 thank you

02:17:00.880 um

02:17:01.580 you know it's funny

02:17:02.420 you know it's funny pearl that he

02:17:03.860 your suggestions that you made

02:17:06.360 were all suggestions that he actually ended up making too

02:17:08.840 no

02:17:10.840 yeah he said like you know

02:17:13.360 reform the marriage laws

02:17:14.560 you know like you said we need to

02:17:16.580 you know reform the laws

02:17:17.440 i was getting he's like yeah

02:17:18.720 i was getting so frustrated because it kept going back to morality

02:17:22.540 and sometimes i just want to say i'm an atheist in arguments

02:17:26.900 not because i am

02:17:28.400 not because i wish to be but it would just be easier

02:17:30.860 but god i'm an atheist so can we stick to the laws

02:17:34.020 but god i'm sorry i mean like it would just be easier

02:17:37.020 like then i wouldn't have to keep going back to

02:17:39.580 my religion my religion my religion it's just so frustrating

02:17:42.700 but god i just wonder like if that baby that she has if it came out black

02:17:49.000 for whatever reason

02:17:50.060 if he would still have the same opinion

02:17:53.940 i'm just wondering i'm just asking for a friend

02:17:58.760 i don't know

02:18:02.520 i don't know

02:18:04.020 you know what pearl i put a

02:18:05.000 it's interesting watching i didn't watch back any of it

02:18:08.660 until this stream because

02:18:10.680 i don't i get my sometimes when people roast me really hard it hurts my feelings

02:18:15.740 so i'll avoid it

02:18:16.580 i didn't really want to see the like comments or anything

02:18:19.440 um but it's interesting watching back

02:18:22.340 i didn't realize like what he was doing that whole debate every time i'd start

02:18:25.980 making a point he would just interrupt me

02:18:27.760 like every time and he would just change the topic

02:18:30.480 and i didn't really realize it until like watching it back

02:18:34.160 so yeah

02:18:36.460 do you see

02:18:39.440 do you see the link in the chat

02:18:41.680 now this is a

02:18:42.920 this this this video that i put up there

02:18:45.200 i just want you to play like the first few minutes of it

02:18:47.480 it is literally

02:18:48.700 the

02:18:49.240 complete contrast

02:18:51.620 of michael knolls

02:18:52.900 and it's a pastor

02:18:54.120 that literally

02:18:55.420 is calling

02:18:56.300 calling things out

02:18:57.460 like he's supposed to

02:18:58.440 right

02:18:59.180 literally

02:19:00.000 it's in the chat

02:19:00.800 could you send it to me on twitter

02:19:02.200 i'll pull it up

02:19:04.180 um

02:19:05.180 hi welcome to the show

02:19:06.440 welcome back

02:19:07.420 hey there

02:19:08.720 um

02:19:09.720 thanks for having me

02:19:10.620 um

02:19:11.620 do you want to introduce yourself to the people

02:19:14.240 you know tell the panel

02:19:15.160 yeah sure

02:19:15.700 my name's sha

02:19:16.580 i have a channel

02:19:17.260 this is sha

02:19:17.940 and uh

02:19:18.760 i worked at a child support agency for five years

02:19:21.420 i was a child support officer

02:19:22.540 i did the genetic tests

02:19:23.840 i was the person coming after people's money

02:19:26.220 getting the judgment set

02:19:27.580 and uh

02:19:28.800 making the phone calls

02:19:29.800 and doing bank levies

02:19:30.740 and all that

02:19:31.260 so

02:19:32.280 oh you were the guy that i would dodge

02:19:34.240 yeah

02:19:35.620 i want to apologize

02:19:37.740 on behalf of the child support agency

02:19:39.860 to

02:19:40.500 if they ever got you

02:19:42.040 but

02:19:42.400 uh

02:19:43.720 yeah i didn't want to interrupt you glenn

02:19:45.120 i know you were saying something

02:19:46.140 and after that

02:19:46.800 maybe i can uh

02:19:47.900 elaborate on a point from the debate

02:19:49.700 once you're finished

02:19:50.860 yeah no no

02:19:51.440 i was just

02:19:51.980 you know i just sent pearl the link on

02:19:53.380 um

02:19:53.740 i just wanted to play another video

02:19:55.160 that's completely

02:19:56.340 it has nothing to do with

02:19:57.580 this video

02:19:58.000 but it's a complete contrast

02:19:59.460 of michael knowles

02:20:00.200 and we need this

02:20:01.240 if

02:20:01.500 if we had more

02:20:02.600 when we think in terms of

02:20:03.960 christian guys

02:20:04.760 that look

02:20:05.540 like spoke like this

02:20:06.920 in this video

02:20:07.820 it would be

02:20:08.940 you would see a different approach

02:20:10.920 oh him

02:20:11.540 this is the guy i had on

02:20:13.140 but we lost

02:20:13.720 joe webin

02:20:14.160 i actually i need to redo that

02:20:15.820 but i got

02:20:16.440 we stopped doing shows

02:20:17.880 actually i should have him back on this month

02:20:19.760 um

02:20:20.800 okay let's

02:20:22.400 yes pastor joe webin

02:20:23.460 okay

02:20:24.200 we're gonna play it real quick

02:20:25.700 blessing

02:20:26.220 okay

02:20:28.560 so when we think in terms of the doctrine of total depravity

02:20:31.920 um

02:20:32.980 people are totally depraved across the board

02:20:36.220 if we were measuring statistics

02:20:37.980 it would be equal across the board

02:20:39.820 we believe

02:20:40.480 you know david doesn't just say

02:20:41.660 you know

02:20:41.920 in sin did my mother

02:20:42.880 uh give birth to me

02:20:44.440 but in sin did my mother conceive me

02:20:46.080 and so from conception

02:20:47.100 because

02:20:47.680 of the fall

02:20:49.180 because of the fall of adam

02:20:50.460 and sin entering the world

02:20:51.960 um

02:20:52.440 every single human being

02:20:53.980 all of his posterity

02:20:55.140 has been born

02:20:56.040 with a sin nature

02:20:57.580 and conceived with a sin nature

02:20:58.980 and so when we speak of total depravity

02:21:00.680 distinguishing that for a moment

02:21:02.100 from utter depravity

02:21:03.220 total depravity

02:21:04.380 refers to sin

02:21:05.260 at the level of the heart

02:21:06.260 it's speaking of the inward man

02:21:08.040 meaning that all his

02:21:09.200 inclinations

02:21:10.540 all his

02:21:11.180 motives

02:21:11.720 and incentives

02:21:12.400 and thoughts

02:21:13.200 um

02:21:13.580 are geared towards

02:21:15.180 self

02:21:15.940 and ultimately

02:21:16.740 in rebellion

02:21:17.620 against god

02:21:18.780 uh romans chapter 8

02:21:20.200 says the mind of the sinful man

02:21:21.620 um

02:21:22.460 it it does not submit

02:21:23.840 to god's law

02:21:24.640 nor can it

02:21:25.620 and so it's unwilling

02:21:26.600 and unable

02:21:28.200 apart from conversion

02:21:29.320 and so

02:21:29.720 um

02:21:30.320 all people

02:21:31.020 are totally depraved

02:21:32.120 so if we're speaking of man

02:21:33.440 our biblical anthropology

02:21:34.800 if we're speaking of man

02:21:35.900 um

02:21:36.620 inwardly

02:21:37.360 at the inward level

02:21:38.280 the level of the heart

02:21:39.200 all men

02:21:40.300 and so that would include

02:21:41.560 both men and women

02:21:42.960 are equally sinful

02:21:45.000 internally

02:21:45.940 at the level of the heart

02:21:47.360 apart from christ

02:21:48.440 from conception

02:21:49.920 apart from conversion

02:21:51.640 all

02:21:52.500 all

02:21:52.860 both men

02:21:53.500 and women

02:21:54.220 old men

02:21:54.980 young men

02:21:55.640 black men

02:21:56.320 white men

02:21:57.000 women

02:21:57.640 men

02:21:58.600 all across the board

02:22:00.160 every single human being

02:22:01.160 is equally totally depraved

02:22:02.520 equally sinful

02:22:03.320 at the internal level

02:22:04.460 however

02:22:05.220 to to apply an illustration

02:22:06.920 to that

02:22:07.300 thinking about rearing children

02:22:08.760 and parenting

02:22:09.380 um

02:22:10.300 every child is equally

02:22:12.160 totally depraved

02:22:13.220 apart from christ

02:22:14.040 um

02:22:14.940 but not every child

02:22:16.520 is equally

02:22:17.240 misbehaved

02:22:18.780 in their outward

02:22:19.740 actions

02:22:20.520 meaning that

02:22:21.500 internal sin

02:22:22.600 of total depravity

02:22:23.440 does not

02:22:24.600 necessarily

02:22:25.400 um

02:22:26.120 outwardly

02:22:26.720 manifest itself

02:22:27.940 equally

02:22:28.440 with each child

02:22:29.640 there are better

02:22:30.540 behaved children

02:22:31.300 and there are worse

02:22:32.700 behaved children

02:22:33.480 okay

02:22:34.960 you can go back

02:22:36.680 so basically

02:22:37.260 what he was explaining

02:22:38.080 is like

02:22:38.480 i think

02:22:38.980 i think women

02:22:39.720 are far more evil

02:22:40.660 well that's what

02:22:42.080 he was explaining

02:22:42.620 he was saying

02:22:43.060 explain today

02:22:43.760 like today

02:22:44.300 women are getting

02:22:45.180 it's not that women

02:22:45.900 are more sinful

02:22:46.600 it's that women

02:22:47.540 are getting away

02:22:48.460 with more sin

02:22:49.480 they're just not being

02:22:50.960 punished

02:22:51.640 not being held

02:22:52.300 accountable for it

02:22:53.300 right

02:22:53.880 and it's like

02:22:54.340 you want marriage

02:22:55.040 to come back

02:22:55.800 go ahead nick

02:22:58.440 so classically

02:23:00.160 you know

02:23:00.900 joe evans reformed

02:23:02.020 i wish he was

02:23:02.380 presbyterian like me

02:23:03.480 but um

02:23:03.960 we're both reformed

02:23:05.680 um

02:23:06.160 the reformed theology

02:23:08.300 so

02:23:08.660 classically

02:23:10.480 you know

02:23:11.160 reformers

02:23:11.960 puritans

02:23:12.700 the westminster

02:23:14.040 lions essentially

02:23:14.720 they distinguish

02:23:15.960 that

02:23:16.600 yeah

02:23:17.340 all our

02:23:18.380 all mankind

02:23:19.420 is sinful

02:23:20.280 but we don't

02:23:21.040 but the sexes

02:23:22.440 tend to sin

02:23:23.060 in different ways

02:23:24.440 and so women

02:23:26.280 tend to sin

02:23:26.940 in different ways

02:23:27.620 than men

02:23:28.140 and men tend to sin

02:23:29.500 in different ways

02:23:30.200 than women

02:23:30.580 and deception

02:23:31.720 is typically

02:23:33.340 tends to be

02:23:34.080 one of the ways

02:23:34.640 that women

02:23:35.120 particularly sin

02:23:36.760 um

02:23:39.280 was there a time

02:23:41.140 stamp you had

02:23:42.000 for the

02:23:42.520 michael

02:23:43.220 or for the

02:23:44.160 michael

02:23:44.420 moles debate

02:23:45.020 yeah i

02:23:46.440 i just wanted

02:23:47.320 to call attention

02:23:48.040 to uh

02:23:49.360 looks like

02:23:50.100 50 minutes

02:23:50.660 49 seconds

02:23:51.560 and he was

02:23:52.340 talking about

02:23:52.840 no-fault divorce

02:23:53.700 i believe

02:23:54.420 starting in canada

02:23:55.680 and he mentioned

02:23:56.220 that it shot up

02:23:57.260 divorce rate

02:23:58.260 ran up 500%

02:23:59.660 once no-fault

02:24:00.660 divorce was

02:24:01.520 instituted over

02:24:02.380 there

02:24:02.640 and i just

02:24:04.020 wanted to point

02:24:04.580 out just some

02:24:05.420 stuff about

02:24:05.920 what he was

02:24:06.500 saying there

02:24:07.140 specifically

02:24:07.720 so i'll let

02:24:08.120 you play that

02:24:08.700 first

02:24:08.940 when does it

02:24:10.540 go till

02:24:10.980 do you remember

02:24:11.540 i don't have

02:24:13.120 an end state

02:24:13.720 but it's right

02:24:14.260 after he

02:24:14.780 i'll stop you

02:24:15.960 yeah yeah

02:24:16.260 you can just

02:24:16.780 say it

02:24:17.180 because we'll

02:24:17.520 hear you in

02:24:17.960 the mic

02:24:18.360 got it

02:24:19.300 got it

02:24:19.640 um

02:24:20.560 we're gonna

02:24:21.200 bring it

02:24:21.520 back up

02:24:22.060 that's not

02:24:23.340 licit

02:24:23.640 the number

02:24:24.040 it's it's

02:24:24.860 but that's a

02:24:25.320 great

02:24:25.500 but that's

02:24:26.000 no but i

02:24:26.720 know but it

02:24:27.900 doesn't matter

02:24:28.480 because it

02:24:28.960 happens all the

02:24:29.600 time

02:24:30.000 but you can

02:24:30.420 and so

02:24:30.880 no it totally

02:24:32.180 i see someone

02:24:33.060 who calls himself

02:24:33.760 we have a record

02:24:34.260 we have a record

02:24:34.980 number of annulments

02:24:36.140 this year in the

02:24:36.980 catholic church

02:24:37.800 you cannot the

02:24:38.820 catholic church is

02:24:39.600 getting more lit

02:24:40.240 you you see the

02:24:41.000 pope and i

02:24:42.040 think we could

02:24:42.480 agree on this

02:24:43.140 the pope for

02:24:44.320 uh you know

02:24:45.240 all of the

02:24:45.880 uh liberal

02:24:47.740 uh statements that

02:24:49.140 have appeared in

02:24:49.520 the press under

02:24:50.200 his name

02:24:50.620 the pope is

02:24:51.900 generally pretty

02:24:52.600 good on matters

02:24:53.320 of sex

02:24:54.180 and marriage

02:24:55.200 uh he's

02:24:55.760 pretty clear

02:24:56.840 um when you

02:24:58.820 say you know

02:24:59.660 catholics get

02:25:00.240 divorced it has

02:25:00.880 happened

02:25:01.220 there's a

02:25:01.740 distinction

02:25:02.000 between it

02:25:02.340 it's it's

02:25:02.880 around i

02:25:03.280 looked it up

02:25:04.000 before this

02:25:04.480 it's around

02:25:04.820 25 35

02:25:05.860 that's how

02:25:06.580 yeah it's

02:25:07.200 it's around

02:25:07.600 yeah it's

02:25:08.260 around 35

02:25:08.960 percent

02:25:09.440 so that's

02:25:10.000 not a small

02:25:10.720 percentage

02:25:11.320 what's the

02:25:11.700 national average

02:25:12.220 like 45

02:25:13.000 roughly

02:25:13.600 so

02:25:14.360 well i

02:25:14.780 2024 it was

02:25:16.100 50

02:25:16.480 okay so

02:25:17.400 i know

02:25:18.200 everyone splits

02:25:18.880 hairs over like

02:25:19.640 the 5 10

02:25:20.280 percent but

02:25:20.900 regardless it's

02:25:21.700 not small

02:25:22.260 so what it what

02:25:22.920 that means

02:25:23.420 is that if

02:25:25.020 you're if you're

02:25:25.540 a man and i

02:25:26.180 totally grant that

02:25:27.240 dating pool's tough

02:25:28.340 and the economy's

02:25:29.180 tough and the

02:25:30.200 divorce courts are

02:25:31.020 terrible and divorce

02:25:31.700 laws are terrible

02:25:32.340 but they should sign

02:25:33.360 up anyway

02:25:33.840 well yeah no

02:25:35.580 before we even get

02:25:36.440 to that okay

02:25:36.840 before i think i

02:25:38.120 did a bad job

02:25:38.700 on the time

02:25:39.160 stamp there

02:25:39.740 oh is that

02:25:40.200 not i'll just

02:25:41.000 explain what he

02:25:42.000 was saying but

02:25:42.840 he was saying you

02:25:44.000 know in 1969

02:25:44.920 1969 is when no

02:25:46.240 fault divorce was

02:25:46.900 instituted here in

02:25:47.940 sacramento california

02:25:49.040 in the state and

02:25:51.140 then it took a few

02:25:52.840 it took probably

02:25:54.200 like 20 years

02:25:55.020 didn't it go to

02:25:55.800 71 it went 71

02:25:57.300 didn't it go

02:25:58.080 nationwide

02:25:58.720 uh in a lot of

02:26:00.820 states it did but

02:26:01.840 it did take time to

02:26:02.720 spread to all the

02:26:03.320 states as he

02:26:03.900 mentioned in new

02:26:04.540 york i believe it

02:26:05.280 was 2010 and

02:26:07.180 there's two points

02:26:07.900 i want to make

02:26:08.320 about that i'll

02:26:08.940 make the first

02:26:09.480 point where he

02:26:10.220 says it rises up

02:26:11.020 500 the first

02:26:12.960 thing to note is

02:26:13.700 that there was

02:26:14.240 already a cultural

02:26:15.160 change that was

02:26:15.960 causing the courts

02:26:16.740 to get clogged up

02:26:17.640 with divorce

02:26:18.120 requests so all

02:26:19.780 no no fault

02:26:20.540 divorce really did

02:26:21.660 is just make it

02:26:22.360 easier for the

02:26:23.080 courts to pass

02:26:23.780 these divorces

02:26:24.420 that were already

02:26:25.080 going to happen

02:26:25.760 it streamlined it

02:26:26.560 essentially it

02:26:27.620 made it easy if

02:26:28.840 you walk into

02:26:29.420 sacramento's superior

02:26:30.700 court right now

02:26:31.580 william ridgeway

02:26:32.460 and you go past

02:26:33.780 the metal detectors

02:26:34.440 and look on the

02:26:35.000 left

02:26:35.280 there's a sign

02:26:35.820 there that says

02:26:36.360 home of the

02:26:36.880 original one day

02:26:37.820 divorce and that

02:26:39.160 was a selling point

02:26:40.020 back then because

02:26:40.760 they're like hey

02:26:41.320 you can come in

02:26:42.000 here and get your

02:26:42.680 divorce in one day

02:26:43.660 and you had people

02:26:44.780 coming across from

02:26:45.600 the country state

02:26:46.680 shopping they called

02:26:47.640 it and they'd come

02:26:48.800 here and they'd live

02:26:49.720 here for whatever the

02:26:50.460 required amount of

02:26:51.200 time is just so they

02:26:51.980 can get a divorce

02:26:52.620 but that's one thing

02:26:54.080 so what i'm saying

02:26:54.800 is that there was

02:26:56.420 perjury there was

02:26:57.440 collusion this is

02:26:58.940 where you get the

02:26:59.500 guy coming out of

02:27:00.280 the hotel room and

02:27:01.000 a photographer he

02:27:02.160 hired would take

02:27:02.920 picture of him with

02:27:03.680 some mistress so

02:27:05.160 that they can go to

02:27:05.860 court and then say

02:27:06.560 hey see approve my

02:27:07.860 divorce now i was

02:27:08.700 guilty of adultery and

02:27:09.820 they were colluding with

02:27:10.800 the other party there

02:27:12.040 was perjury going on

02:27:13.200 this was a well-known

02:27:14.420 thing that's what

02:27:15.640 brought no-fault

02:27:16.360 divorce into the

02:27:17.500 picture to begin with

02:27:18.840 and now with you know

02:27:20.040 smartphones and all

02:27:21.040 these other things if

02:27:21.900 you brought no-fault

02:27:22.780 you know got back to

02:27:24.000 at-fault divorce i still

02:27:25.040 think there could be a

02:27:26.100 compromise you can get

02:27:26.860 some form of it but

02:27:28.760 what michael knolls is

02:27:29.900 saying is that just

02:27:30.660 bringing in no-fault

02:27:32.180 led to this 500 percent

02:27:34.780 increase in rate that's

02:27:35.640 true but there's a

02:27:36.500 backlog of cases there

02:27:37.820 that were getting ready

02:27:38.900 to get pushed through

02:27:39.940 and no-fault just

02:27:41.400 allowed that to be the

02:27:42.300 case the second point

02:27:44.160 about new york he

02:27:45.060 brought up something

02:27:46.020 about liberal new york

02:27:47.000 in 2010 and you did a

02:27:49.180 good job challenging him

02:27:50.220 on this because you

02:27:51.120 said well there's

02:27:51.920 separation laws and the

02:27:54.020 thing about new york is

02:27:55.100 that no-fault divorce

02:27:56.520 then was almost a

02:27:57.280 formality because i don't

02:27:58.860 know if it was one year

02:27:59.640 or three years i think

02:28:00.380 it's one year in new

02:28:01.180 york even though they

02:28:03.400 didn't have no fault if

02:28:04.460 you guys are separated

02:28:05.660 for a year you can then

02:28:07.300 get your divorce so it's

02:28:09.520 kind of no fault name

02:28:10.500 only at that point once

02:28:12.540 it gets passed so he's

02:28:13.680 he's using these as

02:28:14.640 reasons but i just wanted

02:28:15.620 to to clarify that

02:28:18.300 specifically about what

02:28:19.420 he was saying about the

02:28:20.300 law the other thing i

02:28:22.080 could expand upon is

02:28:23.240 they kept trying to

02:28:24.100 pound you on on this

02:28:25.200 mandatory paternity

02:28:26.380 testing and um you

02:28:29.200 know as soon as you

02:28:29.760 said mandatory this

02:28:30.840 word mandatory

02:28:31.640 triggers them so

02:28:32.740 uh and he he

02:28:34.500 specifically said that

02:28:35.760 mandatory dna challenges

02:28:37.180 the institution of

02:28:39.420 marriage and i can

02:28:41.260 i'll try not to be too

02:28:42.240 verbose here but i can

02:28:43.400 i can try to explain

02:28:44.480 why he's saying that

02:28:45.740 and kind of how it

02:28:47.320 works today um

02:28:48.760 you have you know you

02:28:51.340 have children you have

02:28:53.280 presumption of paternity

02:28:54.260 so if a child's born

02:28:55.140 within a marriage the

02:28:56.800 husband is presumed to

02:28:57.820 be the father especially

02:28:58.820 if there's no challenge

02:28:59.720 to that within a

02:29:00.400 specific point of time

02:29:01.480 which you did bring up

02:29:02.800 in in the uh debate

02:29:03.960 about california's two

02:29:05.000 year rule so that was

02:29:06.040 that was important the

02:29:07.560 other way is kids that

02:29:08.700 are born out of wedlock

02:29:09.940 typically at the hospital

02:29:11.780 men are presented with

02:29:13.020 the form called the

02:29:13.760 voluntary declaration of

02:29:14.980 paternity now when you

02:29:16.840 sign that you have 60

02:29:18.580 days uh to rescind it

02:29:20.460 and if you don't do that

02:29:22.320 you have till the child's

02:29:23.400 two in california and

02:29:24.660 other states it's

02:29:25.780 different tennessee it

02:29:26.980 could be five years or

02:29:28.060 this or that it just

02:29:29.100 depends right and when

02:29:31.940 they sign the declaration

02:29:33.140 of paternity it does say

02:29:35.680 on the fine print hey

02:29:36.920 like you know i think it

02:29:38.880 says on the fine print

02:29:39.720 there but like you can

02:29:40.720 get a genetic test the

02:29:41.840 hospital's not going to

02:29:42.740 give it to you but the

02:29:43.880 only genetic test that

02:29:45.200 would would matter if

02:29:47.380 you're you know if you

02:29:48.260 are already legally the

02:29:49.180 parent is going to be

02:29:49.900 the one that the child

02:29:50.640 support department gives

02:29:51.600 you but you can get it

02:29:53.560 but no the hospital does

02:29:55.280 not do it for you when

02:29:56.940 you say mandatory it

02:29:58.960 scares them because if

02:30:00.240 you have people who are

02:30:01.000 happily married living as

02:30:02.160 a family and they find

02:30:03.900 out that uh paternity

02:30:06.540 they're not biologically

02:30:07.680 the father this can shake

02:30:09.640 up that that specific

02:30:10.840 family and it can hurt

02:30:12.120 hurt marriages in that

02:30:13.140 way if it comes out and

02:30:15.320 you know i i get why

02:30:16.740 they say that i get that

02:30:18.220 we have something called

02:30:20.360 you know functional

02:30:21.200 paternity set up ahead of

02:30:22.900 biological paternity

02:30:24.060 enshrined in our law

02:30:25.280 but people should at

02:30:27.200 least be given the

02:30:27.860 option you did mention

02:30:29.060 that you know at least

02:30:30.320 people can opt out of it

02:30:31.600 if they don't want to

02:30:32.260 take it but people should

02:30:33.640 be given that option

02:30:34.700 people should be able to

02:30:36.360 avail themselves it should

02:30:37.540 be provided to them to

02:30:38.760 do that without you know

02:30:40.960 them knowing it because a

02:30:41.920 lot of people sign this

02:30:42.960 form and you know the

02:30:44.400 hospital just gives them

02:30:45.320 the form they're like

02:30:46.000 yeah just fill this out

02:30:46.940 okay your dad just fill

02:30:48.200 this out just sign here

02:30:49.340 they're not going to sit

02:30:50.860 there and read

02:30:51.380 everything to them

02:30:52.500 about it they're not

02:30:53.720 going to sit there and

02:30:54.400 explain how signing this

02:30:55.620 form impacts you

02:30:56.840 legally so people sign

02:30:58.680 it then five years later

02:31:00.080 they're in the child

02:31:00.740 support office talking to

02:31:01.800 me and they're like you

02:31:03.300 know i've had doubts

02:31:04.060 about paternity and i'm

02:31:05.020 sitting here like all

02:31:05.860 right well i'm looking at

02:31:06.540 your case and your kid's

02:31:07.560 four years old and you

02:31:09.180 signed a vdp in the

02:31:10.180 hospital um yeah man you

02:31:12.880 know there's nothing

02:31:13.380 you're going to be able to

02:31:14.220 do about that and you

02:31:15.240 know child support is

02:31:16.280 going to begin next month

02:31:17.520 on the first and no

02:31:19.300 conformed no informed

02:31:21.520 consent you're not

02:31:23.020 advised of your rights

02:31:24.160 before hey here

02:31:25.900 your consent yeah

02:31:27.760 well no they get you

02:31:28.660 they get you on the

02:31:29.500 emotion side of it like

02:31:30.760 yes the baby just got

02:31:32.400 born the pressure is

02:31:33.860 there the family

02:31:34.580 pressure is there

02:31:35.340 yeah it's like you're

02:31:36.960 you're filled with

02:31:37.720 emotion and like here

02:31:38.860 dad sign this and you

02:31:40.000 just want to get back

02:31:40.520 to holding your son or

02:31:41.480 your daughter and you

02:31:42.740 know and then you just

02:31:44.140 like sign it real quick

02:31:45.020 you don't really pay

02:31:45.620 attention and then you

02:31:46.360 just didn't realize

02:31:47.040 what you signed and

02:31:48.480 no a lot of guys get

02:31:50.200 caught that way i think

02:31:52.080 a lot of mandatory is

02:31:54.060 perfect and i like what

02:31:55.520 you said shaw where

02:31:56.260 you're like if guys want

02:31:57.100 to opt out let them

02:31:57.960 opt out if you want to

02:31:58.920 be in denial that's

02:32:00.140 fine that's your

02:32:01.180 problem but then don't

02:32:02.240 be mad when you find

02:32:03.140 out later and i like

02:32:04.440 what you said shaw

02:32:05.200 where you're like if

02:32:05.820 that's the risk that

02:32:06.660 you took them up you

02:32:07.320 decided you want to be

02:32:08.120 in denial that's fine

02:32:09.340 exactly that's the

02:32:10.200 informed consent that

02:32:11.440 is the informed consent

02:32:12.260 uh sandman's talking

02:32:13.440 about right there i have

02:32:14.380 a question for shaw

02:32:15.600 sure this isn't my

02:32:17.260 first marriage i was

02:32:19.760 about 40 my wife was

02:32:21.600 early 40s she got

02:32:23.540 pregnant okay been

02:32:26.180 trying for a year for

02:32:27.700 over 10 years sure gone

02:32:30.560 through all the

02:32:31.260 fertility stuff eventually

02:32:33.180 adopted and she got

02:32:34.300 pregnant at about early

02:32:36.140 40s and i thought great

02:32:39.100 so i bought her flowers

02:32:41.100 a dozen roses and she got

02:32:45.100 pissed off she was pissed

02:32:48.020 off that you bought me

02:32:50.160 roses aren't you concerned

02:32:52.000 about my health and blah blah

02:32:53.860 blah blah blah blah i was

02:32:56.140 celebrating this because hey

02:32:57.760 it's a new life she got

02:32:59.740 pissed off at me do you think

02:33:01.920 that was my child she

02:33:05.040 i hope it was your child

02:33:06.280 she eventually miscarried

02:33:09.280 we do i don't know i have

02:33:11.300 no clue but based on her

02:33:13.720 reaction

02:33:14.460 i wonder

02:33:17.740 here's the important thing

02:33:20.060 wait can i

02:33:20.780 sure i'm sorry i just i just

02:33:23.740 had a real

02:33:24.160 what's the argument i had a

02:33:25.740 realization during this

02:33:27.180 okay why would they cut it

02:33:30.860 like this

02:33:31.560 all right there's an editing

02:33:34.620 in the original interview

02:33:35.660 no no there's no editing

02:33:37.420 what part are you no no

02:33:38.500 this clip i got they're

02:33:39.860 making it seem like the

02:33:40.840 explanation for the clips

02:33:42.000 or for the cuts no no no

02:33:43.780 no no no it's not a cut

02:33:45.400 though it's like i'm sorry

02:33:47.060 sorry i said cut clip it

02:33:48.880 they they clipped it like i

02:33:51.180 was saying they didn't put

02:33:53.800 why i was saying hold on

02:33:55.240 let me just show you what's

02:33:55.940 the what's the

02:33:56.460 look at

02:33:59.140 what's the what's the

02:34:02.280 argument for what marriage

02:34:03.700 is why it's still good to

02:34:05.140 do

02:34:05.440 uh no matter what the

02:34:07.060 policies are why man is

02:34:08.480 inclined toward it

02:34:09.460 any policy

02:34:10.320 yeah i think marriage is

02:34:12.040 always good

02:34:12.660 any any policy

02:34:14.240 yeah i think any country in

02:34:15.740 the world at any time in

02:34:16.560 history it's basically good

02:34:17.860 to get married so so a guy

02:34:19.280 i just want to see if oh

02:34:21.840 never mind they had that in

02:34:22.900 there okay i

02:34:23.780 i'm sorry i i almost got

02:34:25.260 triggered but i thought

02:34:27.000 they cut this part out i

02:34:28.200 didn't actually watch this

02:34:29.420 there was a

02:34:31.740 sorry go on go on

02:34:33.100 i was gonna say um

02:34:34.840 what i find fascinating

02:34:36.820 here

02:34:37.240 is that you know

02:34:39.180 they want guys to just sign

02:34:41.660 over this and you said

02:34:42.620 like the the they rather

02:34:43.880 presume

02:34:44.780 um paternity

02:34:47.440 for the sake of not

02:34:49.980 breaking up the marriage

02:34:51.680 when you find out your

02:34:52.800 wife's a whore

02:34:53.780 you know and it's like

02:34:55.840 no guys we want to keep

02:34:58.340 the family intact so we

02:34:59.780 rather you be in denial and

02:35:01.380 you not know that the milkman

02:35:04.480 is really the baby's daddy

02:35:06.680 yeah i mean that's that's the

02:35:09.920 way he presented it too i mean

02:35:11.560 it's an attack on the on the

02:35:12.820 institution of marriage and

02:35:14.080 and listen i i understand that

02:35:15.940 i respect the institution of

02:35:17.740 marriage but we have created so

02:35:19.560 many laws that have already

02:35:20.800 chopped at the the root of

02:35:22.540 marriage already the child

02:35:24.540 support system

02:35:25.400 it uh it as an entirety of the

02:35:28.380 the federal aid you know laws

02:35:30.820 there through social security 4d

02:35:32.600 has already created these things

02:35:35.340 just the voluntary declaration of

02:35:37.760 paternity as an option has

02:35:39.860 already given

02:35:40.560 men other alternatives to the

02:35:43.900 marriage contract they have built

02:35:45.600 up so many legal frameworks to try

02:35:48.460 to curtail the trends we've seen

02:35:50.860 of kids being born out of

02:35:52.020 wedlock that if you're a guy now

02:35:53.680 why sign the marriage contract

02:35:55.880 when you can just i'd rather just

02:35:58.000 sign a voluntary declaration of

02:35:59.440 paternity if i'm confident that's

02:36:00.720 my kid

02:36:01.180 and then fight for custody later

02:36:03.540 instead of having to fight a

02:36:05.540 whole divorce instead of having to

02:36:07.420 pay spousal support while i'm

02:36:09.260 trying to pay for fighting custody

02:36:10.760 you know what i mean so it's like

02:36:12.780 when they're saying mandatory

02:36:14.160 paternity tests are going to be

02:36:15.700 the thing that threatens marriage

02:36:17.020 it's like listen you've missed the

02:36:18.560 boat

02:36:18.860 the train on what

02:36:20.300 yeah that's not the threat

02:36:23.600 it's like way more than that

02:36:25.560 it's the fact that women are not

02:36:28.040 being honest or not trustworthy

02:36:29.240 that's where the problem is in that

02:36:31.620 guys that men and women are

02:36:33.040 dishonest

02:36:33.760 there's no punishment by other men

02:36:36.240 that's the problem there's no

02:36:38.840 legal implications

02:36:39.800 yeah there's no protection for men

02:36:42.960 in that scenario the judge is going

02:36:45.420 to look at it and they're going to

02:36:46.880 look at it holistically because they

02:36:48.420 have to consider the best interests

02:36:49.780 of the child

02:36:50.400 and if this other guy isn't there

02:36:53.280 like anything short of an adoption

02:36:55.020 let's say even if it's before two

02:36:56.980 years old you're in california the

02:36:58.360 kids

02:36:58.680 one you managed to get her filed and

02:37:01.720 served

02:37:02.160 it's in court now the kids not too

02:37:04.320 and uh listen this was an actual

02:37:08.460 case that happened at child support

02:37:10.120 um you know this is just an example

02:37:12.720 because we had a case where someone

02:37:15.260 she's a single mom and the kid you

02:37:17.540 know is not are now on welfare the

02:37:18.960 case comes to our office and we're

02:37:21.200 like okay we're trying to find this

02:37:22.540 guy get the information and she's

02:37:25.000 like listen i went to a party and in

02:37:26.880 uh you know some city 20 minutes away

02:37:28.900 from sacramento it was a halloween

02:37:31.060 party and the guy had a gorilla mask on

02:37:32.800 the whole time i know it sounds

02:37:33.920 ridiculous but that's what she told

02:37:35.380 us so we have no identifying

02:37:36.640 information

02:37:37.380 that's it the case was closed unless

02:37:39.740 we find out something new

02:37:40.880 but if you're a guy and you're the

02:37:42.600 only guy in the picture and the other

02:37:44.340 guy that impregnated her is some guy

02:37:45.980 with the gorilla mask on at a

02:37:47.340 halloween party

02:37:48.080 the judge is going to be like you're

02:37:50.000 the dad because you've held out for

02:37:51.520 this year and a half

02:37:52.540 who else is going to be this kid's

02:37:54.180 father

02:37:54.540 unless this mysterious man in the

02:37:56.580 gorilla mask shows up so that

02:37:58.080 doesn't even guarantee anything

02:37:59.740 there's no protection for men in this

02:38:02.460 regard men should have the ability to

02:38:05.180 dissolve paternity status at any

02:38:07.240 point if they find out that this

02:38:09.320 child is not theirs if they want to be

02:38:10.960 like hey that's my son that's my

02:38:12.460 daughter i love them i'm gonna continue

02:38:15.120 supporting them i'm for that i love

02:38:17.180 that i admire that that's great but

02:38:19.660 listen

02:38:19.980 men have the option to make that choice

02:38:22.100 for themselves

02:38:22.780 men need to have that choice and women

02:38:25.200 need to face repercussions for bad

02:38:27.660 actions like this there was another case

02:38:29.800 when i was new um and you know i was a

02:38:33.560 fresh-faced child support officer at

02:38:34.960 the age of 25 and they they the

02:38:36.680 child support agency was across the

02:38:37.940 street from the courthouse we walked

02:38:39.320 across the street and we got to watch

02:38:40.600 all the child support proceedings and

02:38:42.960 when it was done

02:38:43.720 um all the people filed out and the

02:38:46.420 commissioner came down to talk to us

02:38:48.100 new guys

02:38:48.600 and he starts telling me a case which is

02:38:51.060 kind of funny it's it's in rollo's

02:38:52.960 book rational mail but it was about an

02:38:54.860 nba player and he worked on this case

02:38:56.740 and he had a one-night stand and uh the

02:39:01.300 woman accused him of being the father

02:39:02.720 he's like i'm not the father they took

02:39:04.220 the genetic test it came back he was

02:39:05.820 the dad

02:39:06.220 he's like i don't understand i used a

02:39:09.740 condom and the commissioner was like

02:39:12.420 what did you do with the condom he's

02:39:13.560 like i threw it in the trash so it came

02:39:15.280 out that she impregnated herself with

02:39:17.140 this

02:39:17.420 you know but guess what nothing happened

02:39:20.340 to her

02:39:20.760 nothing bad happened he had to pay child

02:39:22.840 support that's it case closed there

02:39:25.400 there is no repercussion there is no

02:39:27.160 safety there for for men at all

02:39:29.080 that's why drake puts hot sauce in the

02:39:31.140 condom now

02:39:31.680 yeah i i did see that when that

02:39:34.480 happened he's like i'm not letting

02:39:35.680 another i'm not letting another porn

02:39:37.280 star get me i will not do this twice

02:39:39.500 bitches

02:39:40.000 you know there was another thing this

02:39:44.540 isn't legally related it was just

02:39:46.140 something i noticed in there

02:39:47.420 uh under a a time stamp and uh he he

02:39:51.400 brought up the fact like like what

02:39:52.800 he'll say is that naturally naturally

02:39:57.040 men and women want want to get

02:39:59.420 married and we have to ask ourself is

02:40:01.620 marriage really a natural institution

02:40:03.540 is monogamy really a natural

02:40:05.840 institution

02:40:06.620 um or or is religion really something

02:40:10.640 that's that's supposed to be

02:40:11.780 supernatural it tells us to curtail our

02:40:14.700 biological instincts in favor of some

02:40:16.800 collective higher order civilization he

02:40:19.480 kept saying that as if it's natural it's

02:40:21.240 like no that's not true it's not

02:40:24.060 natural naturally people want to pursue

02:40:26.340 their biological urges whether that's

02:40:28.120 short-term or long-term or whatever

02:40:29.700 you know and i just think that was a

02:40:32.700 point to not let them get away on you

02:40:34.440 know i think it was a natural

02:40:36.100 institution though

02:40:37.180 well sure i mean i'd love to hear about

02:40:40.060 what your thoughts on that but i think

02:40:41.980 personally

02:40:42.420 naturally speaking that's not the case for

02:40:45.900 people to stay together that's why

02:40:47.320 marriage is hard work that's why we have

02:40:49.920 so that seems like an evolutionary

02:40:51.360 worldview

02:40:51.860 you're presuming an evolutionary

02:40:53.780 worldview

02:40:54.380 he's presuming a christian worldview

02:40:56.520 oh yeah and that's fine i'm not

02:40:58.840 going to challenge you on on your

02:41:00.080 beliefs

02:41:00.580 that's that's great but we have all

02:41:03.640 these laws in place we have all this

02:41:05.300 these child support laws in place

02:41:07.000 because if people naturally wanted to

02:41:09.180 do this

02:41:09.780 well then i don't think we would need

02:41:11.820 all these laws in place for that

02:41:13.500 now if humans you know are in a state

02:41:16.540 of sin if i'm going to borrow from

02:41:17.840 the christian framework here and they

02:41:19.960 need

02:41:20.500 religion to be able to operate at a

02:41:23.520 state that's that's at least a little

02:41:24.780 higher than that towards some sort of

02:41:26.960 good

02:41:27.340 then in a natural whatever state of sin

02:41:30.800 that they're in they're going to move

02:41:32.600 from that point

02:41:33.180 now i don't want to bog it down too

02:41:35.080 hard that was just one of the things i

02:41:36.520 noticed because it's like well

02:41:37.760 when you look at how people operate

02:41:40.780 especially when they stop being

02:41:42.120 religious

02:41:42.600 uh they tend to have a tougher time

02:41:45.380 sticking in a long-term marriage

02:41:46.920 going all the way through when the

02:41:48.800 culture starts to isn't religious

02:41:50.700 and it starts being corroded with

02:41:52.340 you know atheism and secularism you

02:41:55.640 start to see the natural default state

02:41:57.380 of people operate again so i just

02:41:59.700 think it's something that he needed to

02:42:00.840 be challenged about there because he's

02:42:02.620 he's starting from that as a framework

02:42:04.600 and that's why i say sometimes i want

02:42:08.680 to just say i'm an atheist of these

02:42:10.980 debates because somehow it always

02:42:12.260 becomes a morality thing

02:42:13.720 and it's like that's not what i'm

02:42:15.520 trying to argue about you know

02:42:17.440 well another thing i noticed they

02:42:19.320 tried to do with you that he tried to

02:42:20.780 do with you pearl is 57 minutes

02:42:22.720 uh he mentioned adopting a liberalist

02:42:25.080 individualist anthropologist uh

02:42:27.340 worldview and it's for some reason

02:42:30.180 the conservative party what when people

02:42:32.840 do shine a light on something they're

02:42:34.600 not doing right they will bring up the

02:42:36.740 liberal boogeyman uh pearl is is

02:42:39.660 actually just an undercover uh liberal

02:42:41.500 you know feminist here and she's not

02:42:44.240 a real uh conservative or or you know

02:42:47.400 any of these things and and to me

02:42:49.460 that's just a cop-out that's that's

02:42:50.920 them not willing to face uh fair

02:42:53.620 criticism on on their lack of action

02:42:55.960 on these very very important issues

02:42:57.960 yeah let's look at marriage let's

02:43:02.460 look at what marriage is okay we'll

02:43:03.920 look at from a biblical sense right

02:43:05.260 because that's where he's going to

02:43:06.200 come from well what is marriage it's

02:43:09.360 when a man and a woman get into a

02:43:15.000 covenantial relationship in the eyes of

02:43:17.860 god right yes so it takes a man and a

02:43:23.040 woman right there we already we're

02:43:25.360 already conflicting with culture all

02:43:27.080 right because culture tells us you can

02:43:28.600 be a man and a man a man and a

02:43:30.520 cheeseburger a man in a tranny you can

02:43:32.700 be whatever variation what you want you

02:43:35.360 could be married so marriage today the

02:43:37.660 way that it's being practiced is not

02:43:39.940 even the same marriage that's in the

02:43:41.560 bible so why is he pushing for marriage

02:43:45.200 when it's not being practiced according

02:43:48.060 to the scriptures like that's a good

02:43:50.300 that's a good point glenn marriage

02:43:52.840 modern marriage has been redefined it's

02:43:56.380 slippage of definitions it's not the same

02:43:59.480 as traditional marriage let me point out

02:44:02.520 something else everybody talks about

02:44:04.820 family values values values values values

02:44:08.320 values i don't give a flying fuck about

02:44:11.520 values i care about principles because

02:44:15.020 principles never change values do change

02:44:19.300 go ahead go ahead nick you're laughing

02:44:23.680 well i just yeah modern marriage like the

02:44:28.200 the contract that modern marriage is is

02:44:30.640 an abomination it is basically it is a

02:44:34.680 screw daddy over contract

02:44:36.580 it is not what a classical marriage is you

02:44:40.840 know and if i look what happened to men

02:44:42.900 when they got married in in the bible what

02:44:44.720 happened to them

02:44:45.400 there's none of this zeroing out there's

02:44:48.940 none of this losing your business losing

02:44:51.060 everything splitting it down the middle no

02:44:53.480 they they got sent back home

02:44:55.300 you deal with them and it's so funny

02:44:59.880 because whenever i talk about these

02:45:01.640 issues they want me to like tell men what

02:45:03.640 to do

02:45:04.200 but isn't it kind of biblical if i say

02:45:07.460 that's not my place

02:45:08.400 right well it's not your place

02:45:10.040 you know second timothy says like you

02:45:12.500 know you ain't supposed to speak to men

02:45:13.700 not your business

02:45:14.680 well i'm like

02:45:16.540 i'm like i'm not gonna tell a grown like

02:45:19.960 45 year old man if he can get married

02:45:22.180 or not like pick for yourself like it's

02:45:24.580 not my job

02:45:25.220 you know i also like the problem is like

02:45:28.640 if they're gonna go from the biblical

02:45:29.800 spence there's no there's no titus two

02:45:31.720 women

02:45:31.980 there's not one i have not met one titus

02:45:34.320 two woman ever in my life

02:45:35.780 what's it what's is that the what's

02:45:38.020 titus two i'm sorry

02:45:39.100 nick go ahead

02:45:40.540 that's the one where it talks about

02:45:44.100 godly women instructing the younger

02:45:45.900 women to you know be

02:45:47.360 discreet chaste keepers at home

02:45:50.240 aren't you married

02:45:51.640 loving their husbands

02:45:52.540 yeah so i mean well technically people

02:45:56.880 think i'm dating you

02:45:57.660 but you know

02:45:58.560 whatever you know

02:46:00.800 piggyback on that

02:46:02.180 uh at an hour and four minutes

02:46:04.660 he mentioned i liked pearl that you

02:46:06.780 asked him about authority

02:46:07.980 and uh you know about men having

02:46:10.380 authority in their homes you know

02:46:12.060 because a lot of the times the

02:46:13.360 criticism is that there's a lack of

02:46:14.780 leadership from men

02:46:15.780 and in the interview you

02:46:17.880 specifically brought that up but

02:46:19.420 it's like

02:46:19.920 you know men can have authority

02:46:22.400 in so far as the women allows them

02:46:24.320 to have it because of the laws

02:46:26.000 and authority is not supposed

02:46:27.680 men you know you can lead as much as

02:46:30.940 you can

02:46:31.720 but the thing is is that we aren't

02:46:34.060 given legal authority over our

02:46:35.820 families there's there's nothing you

02:46:37.640 can do other than you know try to give

02:46:39.300 good advice

02:46:39.880 try to give well-reasoned arguments

02:46:41.980 you don't have authority you don't

02:46:43.560 have authority over your wife over

02:46:45.300 your daughters i mean if your

02:46:46.480 daughter becomes an of girl tomorrow

02:46:48.380 all i can do is you know maybe

02:46:50.440 withdraw my love hope i tried to

02:46:52.040 raise her as well as i can and

02:46:53.920 explain to her why that might not be

02:46:55.140 good for her

02:46:55.800 but i have no authority to do

02:46:57.500 anything about it

02:46:58.340 so all of the responsibilities

02:47:00.500 none of the authorities and he

02:47:02.620 basically said well in the good

02:47:04.040 marriages they have authority

02:47:05.520 and there was just this goalpost moving

02:47:07.720 of like like no you know what i mean

02:47:09.620 because then anytime a marriage goes

02:47:11.360 wrong they're gonna demonize that

02:47:13.320 person

02:47:13.760 well you know you must have did

02:47:15.280 something wrong but it's like no we

02:47:16.660 we have

02:47:17.080 yeah a system of laws that is taking

02:47:19.140 away

02:47:19.620 authorities from men and men can't be

02:47:21.840 good leaders because they have the

02:47:23.040 sword of damocles above their head

02:47:24.700 and the minute they try to put their

02:47:26.280 foot down if she doesn't like it

02:47:27.780 um

02:47:29.000 they're out of there and then that's

02:47:30.320 that

02:47:30.620 well and then

02:47:31.240 how did that how did that how did

02:47:33.580 that go for andrew clavin dennis

02:47:35.300 prager glenn black steven crowder

02:47:37.400 lauren southern like i can list these

02:47:39.480 are all conservatives

02:47:40.380 they can't like

02:47:41.720 what

02:47:43.240 oh the list

02:47:46.180 does authority come from god

02:47:49.580 well i'm the christian deal

02:47:51.760 or has authority come from consent of

02:47:54.920 the governed

02:47:55.400 consent of the wife

02:47:58.040 where does well that's what it's

02:47:59.960 turned into

02:48:00.560 if you're going to take on the

02:48:02.660 provider lifestyle in a marriage in

02:48:04.460 2024 um you know you can be the

02:48:09.200 leader in so far as your wife is

02:48:11.140 giving you permission to do that

02:48:12.440 it's essentially transferred into

02:48:13.900 her hands to give the authority

02:48:15.320 that is the whole problem right

02:48:16.780 there so

02:48:17.340 to come back and to blame men as a

02:48:19.660 trad con and say and to continue

02:48:21.360 blaming men

02:48:22.080 to not call this out as an issue

02:48:24.440 to not want to do family law reform

02:48:27.240 to give men authority back in the

02:48:28.920 household is

02:48:29.720 it's kind of hypocritical

02:48:31.160 if you ask me but instead they'll

02:48:33.620 say oh well only the good

02:48:35.080 marriages or if something went

02:48:36.780 wrong in a particular catholic

02:48:38.080 household like well they just

02:48:39.240 weren't catholic enough but if

02:48:40.540 they were actually catholic or if

02:48:41.920 they're actually christian

02:48:43.060 and it's it's not fair to do that

02:48:45.240 to people

02:48:45.760 the no true scotsman

02:48:47.780 exactly

02:48:49.140 that's exactly what it is

02:48:51.060 what it comes down to is like even

02:48:53.480 the church has removed the

02:48:54.860 authority for men

02:48:55.720 and that happened in the 80s with

02:48:57.440 the egalitarianism like nick wrote a

02:48:59.060 whole book on this

02:48:59.960 like yeah and he's he has a he has a

02:49:01.980 second book that's already come out

02:49:03.440 that he has on this

02:49:04.460 like you know and and so did so

02:49:07.280 did rachel wilson rachel wilson

02:49:09.100 documented this in her book as well

02:49:10.660 you know it's like once the the

02:49:13.120 stake you know told men that you

02:49:15.700 don't have authority over your

02:49:16.800 family you don't have no authority

02:49:18.140 in your household anymore

02:49:19.140 the church backed that up and said

02:49:21.280 hey guess what guys

02:49:22.100 no no no no no you're supposed to be

02:49:23.820 good servant leaders well and my

02:49:25.680 be good slaves

02:49:27.020 and my point to michael was

02:49:29.480 does he actually want marriage and

02:49:33.460 family to return because what he's

02:49:36.240 doing isn't going to make that

02:49:37.880 happen saying men get married you

02:49:40.340 know men aren't stupid anymore they've

02:49:41.980 seen their we've now had two

02:49:43.340 generations going on three

02:49:45.460 generations of men that have gotten

02:49:47.060 screwed by divorce

02:49:48.220 i mean men aren't dumb every guy knows

02:49:51.440 someone that's gotten screwed by

02:49:52.840 divorce and somebody that's gotten me

02:49:54.480 men are wising up so saying to men

02:49:57.040 hey get married anyway that's not

02:50:00.120 going to work

02:50:00.740 what i'm actually saying might

02:50:03.580 actually encourage what you want

02:50:06.100 but that's why i kept it at the cost

02:50:09.400 of women though that's what it is they

02:50:10.880 don't want to do it at the cost of

02:50:12.280 women

02:50:12.520 but that's what i was trying to say

02:50:14.080 someone has to finance the women i

02:50:15.960 mean the welfare state is expensive to

02:50:18.320 maintain it's nice if you can offload

02:50:20.660 someone onto a willing participant who

02:50:23.280 will provide for them and it's it's

02:50:25.460 unsustainable so that's why they have

02:50:27.880 to continue to convince men to do this

02:50:30.420 the worst thing that can happen is men

02:50:32.180 opting out because who's going to

02:50:34.360 finance uh who's going to finance

02:50:37.140 feminism basically what i don't like to

02:50:39.180 hear from the trad cons is that what

02:50:40.580 they'll say is that the red pill is is

02:50:42.860 feminism or that it submits to

02:50:44.320 feminism that's not true the original

02:50:46.920 blue pill was that trad con disney

02:50:49.240 thinking and the trad cons with what

02:50:51.760 they're advising men actually enables

02:50:53.880 feminism to exist in that way because

02:50:56.660 sorry go on no no yeah sorry i was just

02:50:58.800 gonna say yes that's it

02:51:00.100 no yeah feminism is thriving is in the

02:51:03.460 church today that's the only place

02:51:05.140 feminism is thriving it's not thriving

02:51:06.860 in society anymore you got

02:51:08.320 transgenderism has shut down feminism

02:51:10.740 in society but in the church feminism

02:51:13.720 is thriving

02:51:14.580 and the church is in a difficult place

02:51:17.380 glenn because think about it you know

02:51:19.500 there has been these change in how

02:51:21.180 annulments work specifically in the

02:51:22.680 catholic church and i know that's

02:51:23.660 specifically catholic you know it used

02:51:25.640 to be the way the ecclesiastical

02:51:27.500 courts work to get an annulment's very

02:51:29.380 hard it has to go up a few levels

02:51:30.860 i think at least two now i think a local

02:51:33.940 bishop can do it and that's what was

02:51:35.520 changed

02:51:36.080 and um annulments were only done for

02:51:38.660 very good reasons but now you know if a

02:51:40.940 local bishop can do it and one church

02:51:42.520 is handing out annulments it's kind of

02:51:44.280 similar to state shopping with no fault

02:51:45.960 divorce

02:51:46.420 um if you can get your annulment here

02:51:49.020 but they're in a difficult position

02:51:50.980 because if the state allows the

02:51:52.340 divorce

02:51:52.780 okay now uh they can't take their

02:51:55.200 communion if they get remarried okay

02:51:57.180 but um if they hold fast to that they

02:52:00.840 risk losing people coming to the church

02:52:02.900 so they and inevitably because of the

02:52:04.980 state's pressure on them that they're

02:52:06.480 putting on them become more progressive

02:52:07.960 when they otherwise probably would not

02:52:09.520 have want to

02:52:10.140 so you have to look at it when it comes

02:52:12.380 to church attendance and these things

02:52:13.780 like well what do they do

02:52:15.000 and that that is the tough part that's

02:52:16.820 a that's a part i don't want to speak

02:52:18.340 too much because that's for christians

02:52:20.100 and catholics to answer and work on

02:52:22.160 but i understand when i see the state

02:52:24.420 is creating these pressures that are

02:52:26.000 really really hurting religious

02:52:27.320 institutions here especially like the

02:52:29.260 catholic church

02:52:29.960 and these kinds of things another thing

02:52:32.120 i wanted to point out pearl is

02:52:33.480 i'm really glad you brought up the voting

02:52:36.020 aspect in that interview i was very

02:52:39.040 impressed by that and i will say

02:52:41.100 it's more of a problem for the

02:52:42.560 conservatives than it is for the other

02:52:44.660 side you know because if you look at the

02:52:47.280 voting trends they rely on the male vote

02:52:49.640 and i guarantee you the red pill can at

02:52:52.320 least reach 10 of those men's ears and

02:52:55.740 it's like you know okay why should men

02:52:59.920 care about these other issues like

02:53:01.480 immigration or what's going on at the

02:53:03.220 suez canal or all these things if they

02:53:05.300 can't even walk into their own home and

02:53:06.980 they're not on eggshells if men boycotted

02:53:09.340 the divorce it would put a fire under

02:53:11.360 these trad cons if you threaten them

02:53:13.780 with another biden win you'd hear trump

02:53:16.960 tomorrow saying i've always cared about

02:53:18.700 family law reform and if you vote for me

02:53:20.960 i promise to do something about it and

02:53:23.120 if the red pill and red pill content

02:53:24.800 creators can actually unify and stop

02:53:27.160 fighting each other at least on this one

02:53:28.800 issue we can create enough humdrum to

02:53:31.660 get them to take us seriously on this

02:53:33.620 matter i mean you got passport bros you

02:53:35.620 got people leaving their whole lives here

02:53:37.340 do you think they care about voting in

02:53:39.200 one election or boycotting one election

02:53:40.900 when they're willing to not get married

02:53:42.340 not get children leave their countries

02:53:44.880 that they they love and to a place where

02:53:47.100 they barely speak the language because

02:53:48.800 it's it's it's at least a little bit

02:53:50.380 better for them so this is something that

02:53:53.440 even if we can't do it this election

02:53:55.320 it's a problem that's not going away the

02:53:57.600 red pill is not dead it's like bitcoin

02:53:59.720 maybe the stock's here but tomorrow it's

02:54:01.580 going to pop up again once this you know

02:54:04.140 keeps bubbling up because the problem's

02:54:05.960 not going away we've seen our fathers

02:54:07.580 who got divorced we've seen our uncles

02:54:09.080 we've seen friends we've seen this stuff

02:54:11.880 the generations getting smarter and

02:54:13.840 smarter and smarter and ultimately they

02:54:16.200 have to do what's good for them

02:54:17.400 yes yeah michael i made a note when i was

02:54:22.140 watching the video michael seems oblivious

02:54:25.620 to reality and that is because he is a

02:54:27.920 blue-pilled alpha yeah i really don't

02:54:32.960 consider he he has to meet the six foot

02:54:34.720 mark to hit alpha doesn't he okay he's

02:54:37.280 not ryan stone no i was there i was there

02:54:39.520 he's alpha yeah he is he's a nice guy

02:54:42.540 we'll give him alpha status

02:54:43.960 michael is he believes that women are is

02:54:51.160 he they ought to be well and the red

02:54:54.980 bill says women are as they are love

02:54:58.940 them anyway so is it it's an is versus

02:55:02.960 ought distinction here well i want to

02:55:07.160 believe that what women ought to be is

02:55:10.100 how they really are no i did you know

02:55:13.400 that's why i've been through two

02:55:15.620 divorces now women are as they are and

02:55:18.680 all love them but they're not uh they're

02:55:23.900 not sugar and spice and everything nice

02:55:26.180 well and i i got i think i offended

02:55:30.920 candace owens recently because um i was

02:55:35.220 talking about how the daily wire comes

02:55:37.040 off out of touch a lot and um what i was

02:55:40.540 referring to is i they come off out of

02:55:42.780 touch from middle class america and um

02:55:46.320 i don't know like dads i guess the family

02:55:50.120 court stuff it just seems like they have

02:55:52.520 no view on reality with it and i i get

02:55:56.920 so confused because michael moles will go

02:55:59.040 on whatever podcast i'm like you see

02:56:01.440 what's going on like do you just not but

02:56:04.560 what what i found is those guys live in

02:56:06.660 such a bubble like they might not be

02:56:08.820 materialistic i think she took it because

02:56:10.880 she she got kind of mad she was like he

02:56:12.600 wears he goes to walmart and i'm like

02:56:14.380 okay that doesn't make you in touch with

02:56:16.020 the average american experience but i grew

02:56:20.880 up i grew up with guys like that where

02:56:22.700 they're like um like that that's kind of

02:56:24.480 the a lot of them remind me of like where

02:56:26.540 i grew up where it's like upper middle

02:56:28.180 class they tend to come from families

02:56:30.900 that had businesses like they none of

02:56:32.860 them really did like middle class

02:56:34.180 american jobs or had like a middle class

02:56:36.940 american experience and my point is those

02:56:40.480 guys are going to have a completely

02:56:41.600 different worldview because they're around

02:56:44.160 the top like 25 of people like in terms

02:56:47.340 of wealth and socioeconomic status and i

02:56:49.900 think the divorce rate is a little bit

02:56:51.700 lower for wealthy people i think it's like

02:56:54.440 25 well they have they have more to lose

02:56:57.340 there but i want to give i want to give

02:56:59.140 um candace owens when we were in the in

02:57:01.580 the you know where you're getting your

02:57:03.260 hair and makeup done she did say she

02:57:05.440 actually supported prenups that's

02:57:07.520 something that we couldn't even get michael

02:57:08.860 knowles to say that he's yeah yeah so

02:57:11.740 i'll give her credit for that at least

02:57:13.400 yeah it'd be interesting if they end up

02:57:16.040 having me on our show or not because i i

02:57:18.160 wonder if we would agree or disagree it'd

02:57:20.540 be interesting

02:57:21.280 who needs to be leaders here what i'm

02:57:26.880 talking as a catholic who needs to be the

02:57:30.860 leader

02:57:31.220 well it would be nice if our politicians

02:57:34.620 started doing that for one

02:57:35.940 no no they weren't given that role

02:57:39.400 i'm gonna say the bishops of the catholic

02:57:44.040 church need to be the leaders in this

02:57:47.660 because hey you let's assume just pretend

02:57:51.660 you're a catholic bishop have you seen

02:57:54.320 your vocations go down

02:57:55.640 yes where do vocations come from large

02:57:59.360 families your priesthood has been going

02:58:02.400 down for the last 30 years now you have all

02:58:06.080 these statistics our marriages the number of

02:58:08.880 marriages performed in the catholic church in

02:58:11.300 your diocese going down yeah you got the

02:58:14.940 statistics have the number of baptisms been

02:58:18.920 going down in your diocese year after year

02:58:22.980 after year and you're sitting there doing

02:58:27.300 nothing and you also know the abortions are

02:58:30.820 going up and throughout history catholic

02:58:34.140 bishops have always challenged the leaders

02:58:39.000 whether they be monarchs or whatever to

02:58:44.280 adhere to morality and where are the catholic

02:58:49.620 bishops in this whole thing now i don't care if

02:58:53.540 you're catholic or not but i look to the catholic

02:58:57.140 bishops and they're supposed to be the

02:59:00.060 successors to the apostles in the catholic

02:59:04.480 church we believe there was a laying on of

02:59:07.500 hands and there's a a lineage going back to

02:59:10.720 the apostles the bishops are the the uh

02:59:16.020 successors of the apostles where is their

02:59:19.960 leadership

02:59:20.740 obviously nowhere church is a business you look

02:59:26.700 at church is a business because i mean that's

02:59:28.120 really what it is at the end of the day

02:59:29.480 they're it they have to run it like a

02:59:32.120 business you are losing the the the men folk

02:59:37.600 who make the most money out of out of both

02:59:41.800 sexes men men tend to make more money than

02:59:44.440 women do right overall you're losing that group of

02:59:49.340 people who could pay into your business you know how

02:59:54.680 many churches are closing up nick like yearly like on

02:59:57.780 average like close to three thousand churches

03:00:00.040 honestly honestly glenn i was so i was so happy when i

03:00:04.080 found out he was catholic because none of this shit was

03:00:06.400 going to fly with me that you have these special churches in

03:00:09.140 the middle of nowhere oh no oh no i've seen your latin

03:00:13.840 communities my cousins grew up in them

03:00:16.280 you know you're not going to convince me of this

03:00:19.280 your your church is not special or different or immune from female nature

03:00:23.300 it's just not so your your women are not any special or

03:00:26.900 different i i've seen i've been pretty

03:00:30.340 involved i used to go to like um catholic camps like in the summer

03:00:33.640 growing up and most of the girls i grew up with

03:00:36.480 aren't aren't really practicing so where are your special women like

03:00:43.340 pearl i agree with you i live in fargo north dakota

03:00:47.840 one of the more conservative diocese in the country where it's a lot

03:00:53.640 better here but hey i told you my story and

03:00:57.560 that's my experience and the bishop is still not standing up

03:01:01.560 and taking care of things and they just let my situation go through so

03:01:07.400 you know i'll have to stand before god

03:01:10.540 and you know what one thing i won't have to answer for

03:01:15.720 is what i've been accused of by my ex-wives

03:01:19.840 can i ask you did they did they process annulments

03:01:23.660 for for you or for your wife in that scenario

03:01:27.300 did the church actually issue an annulment there i i never got to the point of filing one

03:01:33.820 because you know what i i i have to understand things and i don't have proof

03:01:39.780 and so it's take i have a lot of circumstantial evidence my first marriage

03:01:45.140 why it was not valid but uh you know i i never filed and then

03:01:50.660 all of a sudden my documentation just disappeared my computer got

03:01:56.200 infected and it went away under my second wife

03:02:00.320 and then my other files just kind of disappeared so

03:02:05.300 i don't know what happened um guys if you don't mind if you're on twitter

03:02:11.720 retweeting the stream blessing asked me to

03:02:14.080 oh and the people watching i guess we have a thousand five hundred people watching on twitter

03:02:19.000 what a day yeah 1.6 section oh 1.6 yeah um okay was there any other time stamps from the um

03:02:28.000 the discussion that any of you wanted to bring up

03:02:30.860 um i have like 12 but i'm saving a lot of them for um when i do the breakdown

03:02:40.260 um the only one i could think of her go to 150

03:02:44.940 150 to 150 oh no i think we did that one already right

03:02:48.700 um yeah i think so then do 145 to 147

03:02:54.120 there was a comment made there that that

03:02:58.520 very interesting yeah

03:03:02.940 completely different thing

03:03:09.080 so that that's my opinion you can disagree but

03:03:12.580 i i know women i know women yeah i know women that you know they're in the same family

03:03:17.940 one one shows sex work or something similar one chose to be a housewife same family right

03:03:23.220 but but if you're if you're saying like so to the point you opened with when you say

03:03:26.920 look it's different for the younger than 30 women or whatever it's totally because the social

03:03:30.260 circumstances have changed i agree with you

03:03:31.580 but then the thing that has changed is not the women and the nature of the women the thing that

03:03:38.820 has changed is the social circumstances and so the place you're placing the blame even you as you

03:03:44.460 describe it is in those changing laws and customs and norms not on the nature of women no no i still

03:03:51.300 think you're responsible but i don't think the laws are fair to men so you would and you would

03:03:57.740 change the laws but you don't blame the laws for the problem but you would change them anyway

03:04:01.740 because you know if i can legally kill someone should i it depends the circumstance but in general

03:04:08.560 what's in general i mean if he's like you know what i'm saying sorry you know exactly what i get so

03:04:16.240 irritated when people do this in interviews i'm sorry i'm sorry guys i'm sorry i'm being a woman i'm

03:04:21.700 being dramatic but it's like it's like okay okay you know exactly what i'm asking should i legally do

03:04:28.900 something wrong because i'm allowed to and you're saying well what are the circumstances

03:04:32.840 you know what i'm saying sorry sorry michael don't take this personally please don't i'm i just i don't

03:04:43.680 understand why you do that i don't get it like you you know what i i hate it when people know what i'm

03:04:49.200 saying and i know they know what i'm saying but they pretend they don't know i mean maybe i'm being

03:04:55.180 a woman maybe i wasn't clear but i know you knew so i don't okay i'll continue family perhaps if he's

03:05:02.720 just you don't like the cut of his jib probably yeah but you know what i'm asking okay i don't know

03:05:06.340 what you're asking perl i promise you i do not know but that's that's what i'm saying is like just

03:05:10.920 because you can do something it doesn't mean you should it depends what i don't i don't think

03:05:15.840 like what what's your i'm really just confused at what your your point is so are women responsible

03:05:21.420 for their sin or they're not responsible i think culpability for sin is contingent on knowledge

03:05:27.060 and uh free consent okay what so right there so right there he's passing women's sin

03:05:35.320 on everyone else but women yeah and then he's using these big words for no reason i hate it when

03:05:42.000 people do that i mean he's just trying to chip you up on like i'm like culpability what the fuck

03:05:46.880 does that are we responsible i i hate big words i feel like people use big words to sound smarter

03:05:53.220 than they are no offense michael if you see this very sorry i'm not trying to be rude but i'm just

03:05:58.300 are we are we responsible or are we not responsible yet let me address that okay go ahead from the

03:06:06.120 catholic standpoint you're not totally culpable if you don't understand what you're doing

03:06:12.000 okay i accept that but you're still responsible and as a woman you can either as an unmarried woman

03:06:22.420 you can be under the authority of your father or as a married woman you can be under the authority

03:06:28.580 of your husband and then you're covered wait i want to step out on your own hey you're responsible

03:06:36.900 no i just want to wait i just i just want to show something could you please pull up my screen

03:06:43.080 please do all right so now luckily in 2024 you know we have so many choices you know because he might say

03:06:52.460 how how could the women know how could they know the consequences for this behavior it's just it's just

03:07:01.020 so unheard of the culture just tells them consequences right right wait for it wait for

03:07:06.400 for doing wait wait wait wait sex work so women we we pull up all these makeup tutorials and we can

03:07:13.820 figure out how to do that but we can't figure out that um there is our discrimination going on losing

03:07:21.380 friends and being dissed by family members not only is the job illegal getting arrested um the

03:07:27.960 harmful consequences of sex work it's like you should be surprised there's consequences of being

03:07:37.120 a hoe i i get so i get i get so frustrated wait could you you can move it now i get so frustrated i get so

03:07:46.000 irritated because i'm sorry so women can figure out how to do a a 37 minute makeup tutorial on how to

03:07:54.260 make them look like a completely different person but you couldn't do any research into starting an

03:07:59.380 only fans having an abortion or contracting an std divorcing your husband or anything get the fuck out

03:08:05.920 of here get out of here i just drives me nuts how are we not responsible i mean just take it it's called

03:08:15.720 it's called taking the l and i think we should just learn to take the l and move on sometimes you make

03:08:22.700 the wrong choice l l you're on only fans your vagina's on only fans for life l you got an std l you got

03:08:31.080 an abortion l your life's a mess you're in debt l why can't we just take else just take it l thank you

03:08:38.360 let's call it invincible ignorance

03:08:41.060 sorry i just irritates me you remember when he was like saying that like men take advantage of women

03:08:52.700 in the debate like men men take advantage of women sexually that women don't want to have sex as men

03:08:59.540 that take advantage of them and then you're like your wives not want to have sex with you

03:09:04.720 like no no i'm just asking like did he not read proverbs 7 at all like proverbs 7 is about this woman

03:09:14.520 out there literally pursuing men and then like taking her home where there's like dead man's bones

03:09:21.180 like come on man it's it seems like track at least like like michael knowles have a hard time of a

03:09:30.420 ascribing accountability and agency to women you know he relies on the on the kind of pick the right

03:09:36.140 one strategy and it's like when when men end up getting you know screwed in divorce courts like well

03:09:42.480 you didn't pick the right one but if a woman becomes a single mom it's like well this this terrible

03:09:46.720 person did that to you they don't say you didn't pick the right man like why don't you just pick a guy

03:09:50.820 that doesn't pump and dump you you know what i mean it's it's always about attracted to them

03:09:56.440 yeah well hey yeah pick the right one thing let's go back to genesis adam said hey i'm lonely

03:10:06.200 god created this woman for him was she the right one yeah well i assume so and what happened there

03:10:17.220 he listened to her and it went back so is there any right it can you pick the right one i don't think so

03:10:26.300 not with a guarantee

03:10:28.920 oh it's a simpery that's going on here he's doing simpery

03:10:34.960 s-i-m-p-s-i-m-p-i-n-g stop simping that's what i want to start

03:10:43.500 there was another point where you asked about uh marriageable women and he said what well it's it's

03:10:49.480 about 50 50 men and women for uh it's we're about about parity for population i heard that and i was

03:10:55.160 like uh yeah but a lot of those women don't want to live traditional lives a lot of those women

03:11:01.140 you know are are modern and and feminist and and they don't want to um live the way that that the

03:11:08.540 church or bible tells them but you know again he's gonna blame men for that but he's that's another

03:11:13.780 example of him saying hey uh not putting the agency on on the women themselves or their accountability

03:11:19.580 but what are men supposed to do if the majority of women in that 50 50 parody don't want to have kids

03:11:27.060 or pair off or do this stuff right it's not all on the men blaming men is not going to fix this

03:11:31.880 problem it's just they failed with doing anything about feminists they failed at bringing them back

03:11:37.420 into a traditional role so now they're frustrated and they just want to whip men even harder than

03:11:42.060 they ever have before and it's not working it's just going to drive the men away good luck

03:11:46.700 good and that was my whole point really that was that was my that was my i know then he was going

03:11:53.260 after i'm like don't go after aaron clary that's my guy okay he's so smart an attack against him

03:11:58.920 yeah he was like well you know the first sentence there was some grammar grammatical error if someone

03:12:05.920 has a grammatical error but their message is good that's okay with me like i'll read someone's book

03:12:11.120 if there's some some grammar errors in it if if it's a good book i could look past that you know

03:12:15.960 but if there's something actually wrong with the data and facts and that's another thing well and then

03:12:20.160 he was talking about how and that's why i'm like are you blind you go on whatever look i understand

03:12:26.200 ignorance okay i look at i grew up around these type of guys like i totally get it i grew up because

03:12:32.440 i think michael's calf like i grew up upper upper middle it's kind of a bubble all right but you guys

03:12:38.360 once i started interviewing chicks i'm like i should i wouldn't date anyone either this is exhausting

03:12:44.980 i'm like how can you not there was one other thing oh go ahead go ahead please let me point

03:12:51.800 out something when he attacked what you said about aaron clary's book that's an ad hominem attack

03:12:58.880 that's pretty low brow you can't attack the man's message so you attack his his grammar

03:13:06.300 well you don't shoot the messenger because you don't like his message

03:13:11.700 at the end of the day you know it's funny bro sad thing is is that you care more about his son

03:13:18.380 than he does yeah ironically that's true i mean all of us care more about his son and his son's future

03:13:27.760 you know relationship or you know whatever than he does he wants his son to be a cuck

03:13:34.240 he's not adequately preparing his son for what the son is going to face out there

03:13:40.400 which is you know the whole blue pill red pill you know a lot of people talk about the red pill

03:13:44.700 but everyone seems to have forgotten the word blue pill or what that used to mean especially

03:13:49.320 back in the early days of those the forums of the red pill that the blue pill isn't just a you know

03:13:54.920 a atheist simp that wants to get laid from a woman a blue pill is also someone that subscribes to the

03:14:00.260 old contract conditioning of the of the kind of disney fantasy save the princess idea and in the

03:14:06.100 society we live in this this role of the princess has been completely deconstructed by media and

03:14:10.760 culture men are sitting here still trying to play the prince and now we're trying to figure out what

03:14:15.420 does a prince look like when women don't want to be saved anymore you know what i mean and he's

03:14:20.720 going to raise his son in this save the princess mentality and that's how he'll end up getting

03:14:25.540 steven crowdered you know what i mean yeah um there was um sorry to drop off to something else

03:14:32.840 there was something at 19 minutes uh where he brought up uh no fault divorce at 1969 and how

03:14:38.580 it's actually been a long time since 1969 he was trying to undo one of your points about saying well

03:14:43.180 there has been a long time of this and that but i i didn't like that point you might need to replay

03:14:48.220 it because i can't wait no let's i'll play it what time stamp 19 19 minutes yeah i'm sorry my

03:14:53.380 time stamps aren't very i'll do it a little i'll do it a little early just church the catholic church

03:14:59.300 is not exempt it's absolutely not exempt i've seen a lot of the same trends in the catholic church

03:15:05.180 i i guess my confusion my confusion is though you you bring up these statistics and so then we

03:15:11.900 acknowledge the statistics that show that if one uh you know gets married assuming that divorce is not

03:15:17.940 a sacramental reality that the likelihood of divorce goes way down but then when we say that you

03:15:22.500 instantly say well actually now the statistics aren't worth anything because young people are

03:15:25.760 different wait say that again sorry so wait we agree yeah that uh the numbers for right catholics

03:15:35.260 jews muslim orthodox jews and muslims divorce numbers are way lower and you acknowledge those

03:15:41.320 statistics but then you say no i don't no i don't you don't okay no no because most of those include

03:15:46.600 women over a certain age right you're saying the young people it's totally different time michael so

03:15:50.760 what and that's that's the same thing like the time my parents got married in is completely

03:15:54.620 different so what changed other than now they have so they meet on apps rather than at bars and

03:15:58.660 that's the big change that's why we can't believe the statistics anymore well the average marriage

03:16:02.380 is seven years now michael right but we've had divorce uh expanded divorce for a long time we've

03:16:10.460 had no-fault divorce in america since 1969 so you know i acknowledge these are by historical

03:16:17.240 standards relatively novel but we're still talking like 50 years right more than 50 years see we're

03:16:23.620 right here this is where this is the um part i i take some issue with because it's like yeah that's

03:16:28.840 true sacramento governor ronald reagan signed into law uh no-fault divorce in 1969 in california only

03:16:37.680 but it took time to create the situation where and now the child support program wasn't passed federally

03:16:43.820 until 75 it didn't get its teeth until 1996 uh six when perora passed and there's a lot of things

03:16:51.660 that are different from 1969 up until now so he's trying to say there's a one for one between 1969 and

03:16:57.060 uh i i just couldn't let him get away with characterizing it that way because i think he's

03:17:02.740 not um i don't want to say anything he's being disingenuous yes thank you glenn that's exactly what

03:17:09.500 he's doing yeah and and well because he also got to like my question is okay if the churches are

03:17:17.200 doing supposedly doing it right why have divorces only increased amongst christian denominations

03:17:25.400 you got i think pearl you're mentioning like what catholics are at 35 percent or 25 i mean i was i was

03:17:31.700 trying oh shoot my audio is going i think it's the cord hold on um i'm

03:17:39.500 uh okay can you hear me i think so okay i didn't want to argue about 25 35 45 or 50 i was trying my

03:17:51.140 best to just give it to them okay 45 35 from what i've seen it's actually pretty much the same when

03:18:01.080 you look at the divorce stats the other way um because in a lot of these studies they'll discount

03:18:06.740 people as not being like real or something but there's um and i i'm not so i'm going to be

03:18:13.680 butchering this but there's a guy who helps me with some of the like research for it and he was saying

03:18:20.180 if you look at the number of divorces you get a different number than like some of these niche

03:18:25.860 studies that's pretty much the same within like five percent but i knew that if i said anything

03:18:34.380 like what it is they were just going to argue with me into oblivion about that stupid 10 so i said you

03:18:41.320 know what yeah i'll give you 35 even though we all know it's not but i'll play pretend with you for an

03:18:48.200 hour yeah it's still terrible i know i know it's still terrible like isn't it a monkey evangelicals

03:18:55.900 it's like it's like at 25 to 35 as well or if not more we all know it's more they've butchered

03:19:02.160 these stats somehow i just can smell it like we all know but like okay so look at this why how is it

03:19:07.700 that the christian denomination that says that marriage is the reflection between the relationship

03:19:13.540 between christ and the church i have such high number of divorces amongst the the religion

03:19:23.660 that says we reflect the relationship between christ and the church it doesn't make sense to

03:19:29.320 me so it's because something has to be fundamentally wrong here they refuse to acknowledge the state's

03:19:36.020 role in this you know the the church does unfortunately does not have the power to control

03:19:42.260 you know these divorces anymore it's it's now gone over into the the civil courts uh into the state

03:19:47.760 the state has created these laws which has uh really affected uh how people's marriages are doing

03:19:54.020 and but the strangest part is that the trad cons will then double down and say you know uh they'll you

03:19:59.900 know obviously be like people need to be more religious if everybody was just more traditional

03:20:02.760 we're just more traditional and unfortunately it's not working but they they refuse to really look at the

03:20:07.920 state and start calling that out i mean they their media needs to start pushing this as a message we need

03:20:13.120 to hear politicians uh saying that and understanding that their constituents are crying out for that

03:20:18.100 there's a real problem here and i would i would love to hear trump or other politicians talking about

03:20:25.240 this and trying to get something passed at least or at least trying to bring this up as a as a big

03:20:29.820 issue otherwise they they are going to lose the voters yeah point something out here um i i don't have

03:20:38.100 statistics statistics at hand but there have been studies i believe of the abortion rate between

03:20:47.320 uh catholics evangelicals and secular women and it's not that different and i i would say well that

03:20:57.040 probably reflects divorce rates they're not that different what okay and i have no there has been no

03:21:05.160 studies on this are marriages among catholic people potentially more nasty than secular well i my perception my

03:21:19.980 experience is yes because a catholic woman does not believe in divorce but she wants to divorce so she

03:21:29.340 needs a good reason so she's going to come up with an excuse uh bad thoughts against children

03:21:37.760 kind of something like that to uh get a get out of jail free card so she can maintain her standing in

03:21:48.940 the church and avoid the shame uh he's right that's an interesting point that's he that's right that's really

03:21:56.840 he's right and it's true evangelicals too maybe to a lesser extent so i'm not i'm not singling out

03:22:04.240 catholics here but can we just bring back catholic girls like come on i just i grew up around these

03:22:12.200 catholic chicks they will not convince me of anything no we are not special i don't know much about

03:22:18.660 there's orthodox maybe they're a little better i i don't know a lot of orthodox people but i'm sorry

03:22:24.180 your moms were just as hoes as the rest of our moms i mean i've seen catholic women cheat i've seen

03:22:30.600 catholic women alienate the kids from the father i've seen devout catholics raise whore daughters

03:22:36.580 i've seen devout catholics raise good daughters i've seen it all you guys will convince me of nothing

03:22:42.040 no no no it's no special i'm like i grew up i went to catholic school my entire life you will not

03:22:47.880 i people are people people are people people are people regardless of where you go and that's what

03:22:53.380 irritates me my dad my dad always had a phrase he would say to me when i was growing up he would

03:22:57.960 just whatever something crazy or i'd find out something happened he would just look at me and

03:23:02.340 say people are people people are people in the church outside of the church people have a nature

03:23:07.480 your church isn't special or different thank you you started here's the sad thing about it

03:23:14.100 if marriage is done now if you're coming from a biblical worldview if marriage is done correctly

03:23:20.980 it is a beautiful thing right you got this perfect harmony here right you got this hierarchy you got

03:23:28.440 the man loving his wife like christ of the church you know just taking care of her educating her it's

03:23:35.840 washing her through the word that means teaching her the bible because you know women ain't supposed

03:23:39.780 to be preaching to nobody um but like you have this beautiful thing she submits to him and his leadership

03:23:45.800 and he doesn't do any foul because he loves her as he loves himself and he would not do anything

03:23:51.560 foul to himself and she respects his leadership okay it's like there's this beautiful way that it's

03:23:58.540 supposed to be done but the church doesn't even teach that way anymore it doesn't even support the

03:24:04.880 original model of marriage and you're like you're wondering why the church is failing at marriage

03:24:09.980 we're wondering they don't even teach the word right right i mean nick we have a whole book on this

03:24:15.120 and glenn what happens to those that do teach oh they get kicked out of the churches and they get

03:24:21.100 like me and my friends have done yeah well guys i'm gonna take i'm gonna take collins from the

03:24:27.900 public soon um so i'm gonna can i make one more point on that uh sure no more steve no more be quiet

03:24:36.360 yeah screw you yeah go ahead hey remember oh we're getting that season palm sunday everybody welcomes

03:24:46.300 christ oh yeah he's great uh marriage you you get married and oh the husband is great great great

03:24:57.060 and then what happens about a week later year or two later crucify him crucify him

03:25:08.400 so if we are like christ to our wives um are they gonna go from loving us to wanting us dead

03:25:21.720 well they already do nick is laughing hey you know what i want to hear what he has to say

03:25:30.520 oh man brother my experience exactly i was the greatest i'm this godly man i'm the devil himself you

03:25:41.100 know crucify him destroy him do you guys want to say where the people can find you

03:25:47.620 because i'm about to drop this link in the chat sure um you can find me on youtube at this is shah

03:25:55.160 that's shah spelled s-h-a-h this is shah thank you shah um thank you so much for having me yeah

03:26:01.300 thanks for coming um the rest you guys want to go you can find me on twitter at

03:26:08.060 uh cairo underscore unplugged or xp underscore unplugged and i have a youtube channel i think it's

03:26:18.440 like i think you fix it but it's like uh nick or christianity nick at christianity unplugged or

03:26:24.800 something like that blessing don't let anyone from the link in yet just so you know and you can't find

03:26:31.740 me because i'm just on glenn's channel i haven't decided if i wanted a public presence yet

03:26:37.000 but glenn and i do a podcast every sunday

03:26:41.340 and uh you guys know you can find me you can find me at glenn lawrence presents

03:26:47.300 um on youtube uh mr glenn lawrence on twitter um and uh yeah thank you pearl thank you guys all for

03:26:55.740 coming on um okay guys so so guys um we are gonna go to you can you can take

03:27:06.920 the zoom off there you go okay so i'm gonna actually accept callers and my question is

03:27:12.280 am i a feminist now i just i need i need feedback from the people as you guys know i am no stranger

03:27:21.460 to criticism you know um but we need some guidelines okay now this is my show this is my show i put in a

03:27:32.340 lot of work to put on this show and right now i'm doing it for free zero dollars you know so i am

03:27:38.760 allowed to have rules and if you don't like my rules you can kiss my ass and get the f off respectfully

03:27:44.760 okay so number one you do not over talk me i don't care if you feel like you deserve more mic time

03:27:54.860 i will mute you and kick you off am i able to have the zoom on my screen blessing

03:28:00.140 nah okay be good with my my kickoff all right if you say no you we're gonna kick someone off

03:28:09.060 all right we're gonna kick someone all right i sometimes we're gonna kick someone off okay okay

03:28:13.960 okay um someone's asking for my instagram i've been banned on instagram okay number rule now question

03:28:20.780 now i'd really like to my priority i'd like to actually ask women because i've gotten so much

03:28:25.740 pushback from women everyone says i only want to talk to men no women no women no women so if

03:28:30.940 there's a woman in the chat i really encourage you i don't bite i'm actually quite nice you know

03:28:35.200 regardless of what the people say i i want to know am i a feminist and i will talk to the guys too but

03:28:42.460 the the chicks i just think it would be nice to you know anyways stop saying my nancy pelosi hand

03:28:50.560 gestures i'm sorry i like to talk with my hands all right okay sorry all right number two number two

03:28:58.660 any personal attacks any you know

03:29:04.320 internet room whatever you want to bring up i just i'm not here to talk about drama i'm asking am i a

03:29:15.520 feminist so if you're gonna bring up your own random topic get out of here this isn't what we're here

03:29:20.540 to talk i'm asking am i a feminist for saying that marriage is a bad deal for men in 2024

03:29:29.720 if you're blocked on my twitter i probably just think you're i don't want to talk to you so

03:29:36.840 sorry you don't get to come on um i think that's do we have anyone in the chat how many people are in

03:29:46.380 the zoom okay let me all right i just kicked two guys off if you come on the zoom make sure your

03:29:50.800 camera is on otherwise oh yeah sorry camera's gotta be on we gotta write these rules i'm gonna pin it in

03:29:56.260 the chat um and wait until you're called up as well yeah can you mute um

03:30:06.700 are there any women that came on or is it all guys it was all guys and thank you guys on x we got

03:30:15.100 2400 people on x wow uh please make sure you are liking reposting all of that good stuff thank you

03:30:22.200 thank you all right i'm gonna tweet i'm gonna tweet because i just the trad con women have had so much

03:30:28.180 to say to me so much to say to me and so i'm just asking the question all right trad con i'm gonna tweet

03:30:36.900 at you guys trad con women call me now all right get on the zoom link por favor

03:30:50.500 is there any way i can see the the screen of who we let in without everyone else seeing it

03:31:02.020 uh no well then i can get up and do it because

03:31:07.060 i there's some people that i'm not giving cloud until i see who i'm talking to

03:31:12.940 um yeah they need to turn their cameras on first as well oh yeah no kick them off if they don't have

03:31:17.740 their cameras oh yeah just kick them kick them guys i mean what what do you think who do you think

03:31:21.980 you are coming on the show i need to see your face you're not just gonna get to troll and say what

03:31:26.580 you want nope i need face i need face okay we got brennan here now okay wait wait wait wait i'm

03:31:36.140 putting straight i feel like we should have thought about this because what i don't want

03:31:43.160 now he looks like a mask guy okay we can bring up brennan okay i don't want any trolls that's what

03:31:51.100 i'm asking um yeah that's fine you can bring up a second you didn't have time to turn well then

03:32:00.420 turn it on and turn the link again i mean i'm not gonna be able to go all night you know i'm just

03:32:06.180 saying second we got brennan ready to go oh we got it we got a lady as well today all right the lady

03:32:14.580 can go second we'll we'll let brennan brennan seems like a nice guy all right so brennan you're gonna be

03:32:20.080 on first all right okay and hello brennan how are you i'm doing i'm doing well um i'm a married

03:32:30.460 christian guy i also appreciate the work you're doing um i am i have some thoughts on this topic

03:32:38.840 okay so i don't i don't think you're a feminist at all um i think that that's kind of an outlandish

03:32:45.000 accusation yeah nor would i call you a liberal yeah i think you're i think you're reasonable okay um

03:32:49.900 and i'm a married guy um i think outside of ultra orthodox christianity where especially communal

03:32:56.600 christianity so i'm a mennonite convert which is kind of like a cousin to the amish um and so i'm

03:33:04.080 using technology obviously but it's it's somewhat limited uh the divorce rates are like three percent

03:33:09.260 and part of the reason is people are highly interdependent and there's an enormous amount

03:33:14.940 of financial and social pressure not to get divorced so there is some there are some groups that

03:33:21.080 voluntarily associate that have a system that makes it that disincentivizes divorce

03:33:26.500 where so where are you at i'm located in georgia georgia am i able to visit these communities i

03:33:33.620 actually want to go see one totally yeah absolutely actually you're a midwesterner right i don't know

03:33:38.660 if you still live in the midwest but uh i'm in london now but um there's one in chicago area that'd be

03:33:47.580 ideal when i'm home yeah there's actually quite a few yeah there's quite a few mennonite churches

03:33:52.240 uh in southern illinois uh so if you go to if you're willing to drive a couple hours um there's

03:33:59.040 if you look up the eastern pennsylvania mennonite church as well as there's a there's a website called

03:34:03.960 the pilgrim uh ministry and you can find a map of mennonite churches throughout the united states

03:34:10.240 um they are extremely conservative uh women wear head coverings and uh 1400 style dresses uh it's

03:34:18.000 oh yeah so could you show my screen i'm going to show them the pictures of it

03:34:22.060 sorry keep going i'm just going to show them blessing show the screen real quick sure

03:34:29.520 yeah so i i think there's quite a few um there are some orth there are some and i use the word

03:34:37.480 orthodox not as an eastern orthodox but there are some very ultra conservative christian options in the

03:34:42.380 united states that prevent a lot of this nonsense and me and my wife we we were fed up with what the

03:34:47.820 churches were teaching and uh you know ultimately we decided we wanted to go attend a church that

03:34:53.160 actually followed what the bible said and uh some of you guys who were on earlier they were talking

03:34:57.540 about hey uh submitting to your husband uh you know and as well as loving your wife as uh christ

03:35:05.960 loved the church well there are some churches that do that so let me put it this way so in a mennonite

03:35:10.960 church um people uh insure each other for example so uh health insurance car insurance uh you name it

03:35:19.480 uh it's all through the church and people mutually assisting each other so let's say you're someone

03:35:23.860 who wants to divorce your husband for no reason you're now opting there's a financial penalty for

03:35:27.960 doing that you go and just walk off and divorce your husband you're now throwing away your health

03:35:31.300 insurance and your car insurance um health insurance car insurance and medical insurance

03:35:35.960 uh also yeah so i think that's like kind of churches organize that way and create disincentives i think

03:35:42.380 that's pretty effective so i'm confused so but they would still be opted into the state right so like if

03:35:51.740 she wanted i'm i just don't understand it so you can just um tell me if i'm right or i'm wrong so if

03:35:57.660 she's in a mennonite community and like let's just say you know your wife divorces you tomorrow

03:36:02.880 she loses the insurances that she got through the church so the church has this system of mutual aid

03:36:12.340 so there's this verse in the bible lifting up each other's burdens right and they with you as a member

03:36:17.340 you swear off health and uh health insurance you swear off all welfare uh if you just you know

03:36:22.720 if you're a state you swear off auto insurance and uh so basically the the church itself provides

03:36:29.020 through uh reimbursement all basically it covers all these costs so what that means is that that

03:36:35.760 person's not inherently reliant on the state and if they want to become reliant on the state of course

03:36:40.060 they can go through the court system they can still decide to go and do whatever any other woman in the

03:36:45.740 united states could do right however there's a massive social cost mennonites are pretty well known just

03:36:51.500 and not and they're cousins to the amish but they're pretty well known for being uh

03:36:55.760 intricately knit communities and so if you were to go and leave the church you live with all your

03:37:01.280 friends your family and no one is going to support your decision to have to divorce your husband

03:37:05.680 wow um so it's there's massive social pressure not to do so so between the financial and social

03:37:10.400 pressure uh a lot most people you know decided that hey i i don't want to lose all my friends and

03:37:15.960 not have my parents talk to me and you know i'm saying like it's and it doesn't necessarily result

03:37:19.900 it isn't necessarily there isn't necessarily shunning like the amish but you're never going to hear the

03:37:24.040 the mother of some uh woman who's trying to enforce possibly divorce her husband say like

03:37:28.480 oh you get him girl you're you're really you're really uh you're you're a strong empowered woman

03:37:33.280 like that's just not a conversation that would occur uh so yeah just some food for thought uh i was

03:37:38.320 thinking very much along the same lines as you i was very concerned about the future hey like do the

03:37:43.000 red pillar thing prenups you name it and over time i was like okay well um and also the united states

03:37:50.240 isn't the only country uh there are other countries that are like go think about paraguay i gotta do

03:37:54.840 the tv thing blessing i don't know if you see this but oh go ahead no no i think there's a the tv's

03:38:00.940 about to turn off or something but keep going sorry sure yeah no problem so there's there's uh you know

03:38:06.980 there's other countries that don't have such liberal divorce laws around no-fall divorce like paraguay

03:38:11.100 you name it you're you're in the uk right now yeah uh you know i'll tell you if you're if you're uh if a man

03:38:15.640 is worried about that and he's really concerned you know go join a mennonite colony down in paraguay

03:38:20.080 where is paraguay it's adjacent to argentina uh and brazil and yeah so it's it's a it's a pretty

03:38:27.760 conservative it's a majority catholic country but there's a very large uh mennonite uh presence

03:38:32.460 there there's long history behind that but uh yeah it's yeah yeah the united states isn't the only

03:38:37.180 option yeah the u.s sucks with its laws but there are some for those who do want to get married there are

03:38:42.280 some alternatives and uh you know that's as if you're going to become benedict though i would

03:38:47.360 not say this is you know like that to me the only issue you look at be like hey there's a low divorce

03:38:51.940 rate and they pressure people not to get divorced there's a there's a lot more to anabaptist beliefs

03:38:56.460 there one of the tenants is like yeah it was i don't i don't want to like you know try to give you

03:39:01.960 like a conversion talk or something like that you know there's a lot to converting i'm guessing it's not

03:39:07.340 that simple yeah so question can you hook me up i've been trying for ages to find some people to

03:39:13.760 i want to go to an om i've been seriously wanting to go do like interviews in an amish or mennonite

03:39:19.840 like mennonites i guess close enough you know would they go on camera or like yeah it depends on the

03:39:26.360 group and it depends on the person you know hey it's everyone's an individual uh and that's true with

03:39:30.740 the amish too it kind of depends on who you're talking to but yes i i could i know some people uh up in

03:39:36.440 maine who would be willing to are you on i'm sure are you on twitter are you on twitter i i am yeah

03:39:42.160 you should if you know anyone because i i would seriously come out i've been wanting to do this

03:39:46.700 video forever next time i'm in the u.s so if you got any content i really want to go to an amish place

03:39:52.980 that would be my number one but if not mennonite would be cool too so yeah absolutely feel free if you

03:39:59.380 have any contacts to dm me because i've been wanting to do this video um sure i'll i'll give some i'll make

03:40:05.280 some calls all right well thank you very much for calling in thank you thank you all right so the

03:40:11.920 next caller um am i a feminist first this is my question am i a feminist for saying that marriage

03:40:21.120 is objectively a bad deal for men in 2024 now and and feel free you can add any thoughts you have on

03:40:29.900 on marriage you know that that was a really cool story the mennonite thing so you know but that's

03:40:35.800 that's the overall topic am i a feminist for saying that and is marriage a good deal for men in 2024

03:40:44.340 so all right vet them make sure they're not crazy we got hayley here all right all right

03:40:52.660 hayley you're gonna come on now and you ready for yes i'm ready cool hello hayley how are you

03:41:00.900 hey i'm good how are you i like the tie-dye you got there oh thank you thank you um question

03:41:08.620 so this may sound irrelevant but it kind of ties in a little bit so you were on the show

03:41:16.120 trigonometry i think it's called with the two guys i think they're from england yeah yeah yeah

03:41:21.080 yeah okay um you said that there was a legal statement coming out regarding why you interviewed

03:41:27.380 nick fuentes where is that legal statement and also i made a video about okay steven crowder's wife

03:41:34.740 and then you deleted that video i want to know why okay okay okay we're gonna we're gonna get rid

03:41:39.420 of her see this is the thing with women i give one rule i give one rule i say i i didn't delete any

03:41:47.020 video with hillary but i say one rule ladies ladies ladies ladies we're gonna kick you out yeah it's like

03:41:57.320 it's like it's like women it's like we have the you see the man comes on i say here are my rules

03:42:03.560 the women can we talk about trigger what okay anyways so next um all right we got um let's see what's

03:42:17.020 next we have here uh robert are you ready yes yes

03:42:24.700 all right okay thank you very much hope you guys can hear me okay hello is your name robert

03:42:35.220 uh yes it is uh nice to meet you so question of the day am i a feminist

03:42:42.520 for saying that marriage is a bad deal objectively for men in 2024 i would say not at all i would say

03:42:50.540 the problem with this discussion is it's too politically charged so it's hard to separate

03:42:57.700 that you know if you're trying to like a car was running rough and you're like well how do i fix

03:43:02.140 this everyone's going to have a discussion because most people want to make a relationship that works

03:43:06.880 long term so we're all on the same page but as soon as it gets political then it's just charged so

03:43:13.760 if let's say i were on a first date and i said something like well i'm not really big into marriage

03:43:19.500 well they're going to assume all sorts of things they're probably going to assume that

03:43:23.160 you know i'm afraid of commitment oh i only basically looking at someone for physical

03:43:30.340 relationships i'm selfish all those things are going to be loaded into that when no the answer

03:43:36.300 could be no i'm very happy to get married i'm just terrified of getting divorced

03:43:40.040 i mean because those things can be brutal i've had yeah i've i've had one that's gone on for three

03:43:49.240 years my attorney's been doing this for 49 years he says the single biggest parental alienation case

03:43:54.660 he's ever seen i've had over 20 investigations done on me so these things can really really get nasty

03:44:00.920 so it doesn't mean that you don't want to find true love and make something work but yeah you could

03:44:05.580 be very wary of that kind of stuff because it's a huge cost to successfully to successfully win this

03:44:12.360 case it takes some doing i probably dropped easily over a hundred thousand dollars in legal bills and

03:44:17.640 i spend probably about on the average about 10 to 20 hours a week working on the legal front i've lost

03:44:24.060 track of how many times i've been in a courtroom and it works i have two wonderful kids that are two

03:44:29.720 five and i love them to death and i would do it all over again you know but it's stuff i never would

03:44:36.200 have guessed to have happened before so did you did you end up getting custody uh i have a good deal

03:44:44.700 of parenting time so i roughly you know weeks in the summer normally have about three three weekends a

03:44:51.640 month for three days on days so i'm currently going back to court to have my youngest rolled into the

03:44:58.660 same parenting plan just because uh she left as soon as she found out she was pregnant so they

03:45:04.360 were making the argument that you know she was exclusively breastfeeding but couldn't come for

03:45:08.560 a couple years so my time is more limited with my youngest but eventually if you hang in there you

03:45:15.800 really do survive i mean i like i said i've had so many i've had 18 vhs investigations but eventually

03:45:22.680 if you hang in there a lot of times the truth doesn't come out yeah so how long was your divorce

03:45:27.820 how many years total uh we worked together a total of uh four years and then um three years into it

03:45:37.300 the divorce with final orders was a year but she kept always alleging abuse and so every time she

03:45:44.380 alleged abuse was emergency motion to go before the courts and she was kind of in a small town so

03:45:50.560 you know they basically it took a while to kind of break through that as well

03:45:54.440 but it's bizarre i mean my five-year-old isn't even toilet training at her house because she

03:46:00.600 intentionally makes it so he can't be even though he's used to the toilet at my house and at school

03:46:05.160 so there's a lot of really bizarre things so the kids have taken you know a serious blow because

03:46:11.920 they're kind of being weaponized but you know eventually um you know i have i've had a really

03:46:20.140 good judge and i'm a very strong christian so i've had a lot of divine intervention i really got one

03:46:24.020 of the best attorneys you can have and eventually got really good in-home therapist appointed but

03:46:29.520 each one of those would almost take like a three four month legal battle wow the those components in

03:46:35.720 place and it takes a lot off those allegations because anyone i've dealt with that's a professional

03:46:43.700 they're under 40 that me too movement is the thing they really just take whatever the woman

03:46:48.360 says at face value and you almost have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that those allegations

03:46:52.220 are false and it takes a lot of work to do that which is hence kind of the 10 to 20 hours a week i

03:46:58.100 usually have had to spend in this matter proving you didn't do something basically oh yes and it

03:47:07.280 started off with like any time that my poor kid got a bruise because it started when he was two years

03:47:11.700 old to be taking pictures they go to dhs and then she kept uh upping it to where it's like now it's you

03:47:17.720 know sexual abuse and all this kind of stuff so my poor kid has had multiple sane exams done on him

03:47:23.640 and it's really hard for a kid under the age of you can't hide a kid under the age of seven being

03:47:30.420 sexualized especially that young it's very very very obvious and nothing wrong with the kid

03:47:35.680 you know so it's pretty funny like uh you know his teacher will be oh he's a wonderful kid he's normal

03:47:42.600 and his mother's making these allegations that he can't even wash his hands he can't take a bath

03:47:46.800 he can't comb his hair and he can do all of it but because we have very strict laws about you know

03:47:53.180 with tip and everything that a teacher can't even talk to a therapist without uh you know waivers

03:48:00.400 being signed so the only people that can even connect dots are investigators

03:48:04.680 were perfectly fine but um were there any glaring red flags you would say about your ex-wife that

03:48:16.200 in hindsight maybe like younger guys should look out for or would you say there wasn't really any

03:48:21.400 strangely enough there really wasn't any until my first son was born and then things changed

03:48:28.100 pretty dramatically um and i have a lot of really good friends around me that are very professional

03:48:36.580 and they didn't even see anything so it kind of took all of us aback that things went this

03:48:43.020 south this quickly but i am 47 myself so i'm rather older

03:48:49.380 all that kind of stuff and i really found that there are some very huge generational differences

03:48:58.080 where things kind of look okay on the surface but behind the scenes there's a lot going on

03:49:02.480 i mean my understanding is almost one out of ten young people millennials to attempt suicide i know

03:49:07.140 so far it's quadruple just in the last 10 years so if you're really with people that have

03:49:12.320 you know mental health issues you're not gonna you're gonna really have to struggle to have

03:49:16.880 a somewhat functional relationship and so i kind of a lot of it was just she was young a little

03:49:23.940 inexperienced but i didn't really see it for what it was because i was 40 and she was roughly 29

03:49:30.560 oh okay okay got it well thank you for um thank you for calling in i appreciate you telling me your

03:49:39.180 story oh no thank you for all that you do i am so grateful for your podcast because

03:49:45.140 i wish i could properly cite the person you said this but it was really he basically said that

03:49:53.220 we don't have primitive minds trying to navigate medieval institutions with almost godlike

03:49:58.840 technology and it's rather difficult to get those things to juxtapose correctly yeah and hence have

03:50:04.840 a functioning you know relationship so it's not because anyone's really messing things up it's just

03:50:09.220 it is pretty difficult now yeah and but yet we all yearn for a good relationship we truly do

03:50:14.480 so thank you for bringing the dangers of this because yeah it's been i mean i work literally over 100

03:50:21.860 hour weeks to pay my attorneys yeah and you know it's a mess so yeah thank you very much for calling

03:50:29.880 in thank you god bless all right um someone says pearl is bill like a linebacker rude um rude katherine

03:50:41.740 um okay who's all right we got the next caller dale do we have do we have a chick that tried to get in

03:50:51.580 or is that the same chick nah she she's gone the one that was here that she left i just these crazy

03:50:57.760 ladies i knew she was gonna be trouble then why'd you let her it's like blessing i mean it's gonna be

03:51:02.140 why would you why would you let her in if you knew she was gonna be trouble

03:51:04.920 give a little bit of hope you know i mean i mean it's like they'll be like pearl there's good women

03:51:10.660 i mean come on my stream then sorry all right we got dale coming up now um hello dale hello pearly

03:51:21.860 how are you good how are you i'm doing all right all right so am i a feminist because i say objectively

03:51:28.760 marriage is a bad deal for men in 2024 okay i'm gonna define marriage before i get to the feminist

03:51:37.260 part okay and so being a christian um i define marriage as between a man and a woman and that

03:51:44.660 uh a husband and wife have defined roles and a husband is called to um love his wife like christ

03:51:52.460 loved the church and to lead by example by self-sacrifice even if it's down to the cost of his life

03:51:58.280 he has to provide that safe and secure environment for that woman and they are designed to work

03:52:04.900 together and the woman is supposed to then provide the needs of the husband and when they work together

03:52:11.280 they restore the image of god on the earth because it is to demonstrate the relationship between christ

03:52:19.080 and his father in a way that makes sense to human beings and they're supposed to be united and to be one

03:52:25.400 flesh and so absolutely that is with the right person who has the right character it is definitely

03:52:33.260 the most beneficial thing that any man can do because the whole of the man and the woman working

03:52:39.460 together will be greater than the sum of its parts it's impossible for a man right but i'm not i'm not

03:52:45.860 i'm not talking about like this no no just hold on no no you don't you don't get to this isn't how

03:52:52.760 that works go ahead go ahead continue just kick him go ahead just kick him we'll go to the next one

03:52:57.960 um i just i don't like the i don't like people talking back to me on my own show look at i put in a

03:53:04.620 lot of work to this see this see this this isn't your monologue i'm just i'm showing you guys not you

03:53:11.440 know he can come back on the next show but i'm showing you guys my rules for coming on

03:53:16.400 no this is not you get to come on here and do as long of a monologue as you want

03:53:23.380 and pearl pearl doesn't get to interrupt you on your own show if you're talking

03:53:29.160 if you're chain if you're going to random

03:53:31.480 no you don't get to hold up you can do that on your channel

03:53:37.560 if i meet you on the street i'll be polite you know but here here it's super simple i i give i give

03:53:47.320 these easy rules i give these easy rule i give so it's so easy

03:53:52.860 okay i'm gonna go through them again

03:53:58.940 i'm gonna go through them again

03:54:03.500 and i think they're reasonable one you don't get to come on and pick your topic

03:54:12.260 two two two two

03:54:16.340 no over talking me it's my show no over talking me all right three

03:54:24.660 three

03:54:28.100 i forgot the other i need to write these down

03:54:33.820 okay okay no and turn your cameras oh turn your cameras on

03:54:40.600 and for oh yeah don't back talk it's just like

03:54:46.040 who do you guys think you are get you go on your own channel

03:54:49.520 go okay thank you we'll go to the next one we'll try again and by the way by the way

03:54:56.820 this is not if you can disagree with me i am totally fine with the disagreement

03:55:02.220 but what you're not gonna do is over talk

03:55:06.200 and talk back to me that's that's

03:55:10.280 i don't really care and if you don't like it i don't really give a shit

03:55:13.960 go start your own show that no one watches

03:55:15.780 okay next yeah next one

03:55:19.880 all right i'm gonna bring on elena first uh preston you're gonna have to hold on

03:55:24.120 because he'll be wanting to talk to a female you have one coming up

03:55:28.580 let's see get your mic ready please uh lena

03:55:35.200 i'm asking you to unmute

03:55:37.700 all right and pearl you ready

03:55:40.780 oh hello

03:55:44.060 hi pearl great to see you thank you

03:55:47.460 i've seen you before somewhere were you on glenn's stream

03:55:50.300 i have been yeah

03:55:52.300 oh i was like i i recognized you

03:55:54.400 so question of the day

03:55:56.520 see look i just want to i just want to show you guys

03:55:58.740 do you see how she comes in with a smile on her face

03:56:01.660 you see like everyone says i i don't hate women

03:56:05.480 i just hate combative women look at her

03:56:07.280 she's friendly she's like happy to be here

03:56:09.380 look at her and she could disagree with me

03:56:11.760 i wouldn't even care

03:56:12.360 okay sorry all right am i a feminist

03:56:15.320 for saying that objectively marriage is a bad deal for men in 2024

03:56:19.700 well in 2024 i don't think you would be considered as a feminist

03:56:25.300 for saying this because we have to be realistic here right

03:56:29.400 how does the marriage end for men

03:56:31.480 it doesn't end great for most men right

03:56:34.400 i'm not talking about like the top 10 percent of the men

03:56:37.780 that all women want to be with right

03:56:40.220 so i no i wouldn't call you a feminist

03:56:42.960 in fact i agree with a lot of what you're saying

03:56:45.980 and i think that we actually need more women like you

03:56:48.740 oh thank you where are you from

03:56:51.200 i'm originally from russia but i've been living in europe

03:56:55.160 and i've been here in the u.s for over eight years now

03:56:59.320 tell me what i'm curious is there a big

03:57:02.400 when did you you had to have lived in russia

03:57:05.640 you have an accent still so were you there

03:57:07.580 yeah yeah i still have yeah yeah

03:57:09.520 it's something that people have been

03:57:11.040 no no i'm asking because were you old enough

03:57:13.660 to to know the dating culture there

03:57:15.980 because i'm just curious if there's a difference

03:57:18.020 that you've seen like in the west versus russia

03:57:20.200 well if you're talking about feminism we have it in russia too

03:57:25.460 okay and i think at this point it doesn't matter where you go

03:57:29.820 you just have to be careful

03:57:31.860 you have to vet women carefully applying the rational criteria

03:57:35.560 no matter where you are

03:57:36.960 and uh in terms of culture

03:57:39.800 uh there are certain differences in terms of how women view game

03:57:44.700 i think that they have a better understanding of game in russia

03:57:47.980 than in the west but um they're still women

03:57:53.180 you know female nature like your dad was saying

03:57:55.560 you know it's in all of us we are all humans

03:57:58.060 uh we want pretty much the same things you know

03:58:01.740 so women are going to be women men are going to be men anywhere you go

03:58:04.840 okay um what do you think

03:58:08.580 what do you think about the passport bros

03:58:11.900 do you think that's a good idea to do that to go to russia

03:58:14.600 well right now i would say i would just stay away

03:58:21.020 and stay away from russia from ukraine

03:58:24.040 um yeah wait until the conflict resolves itself

03:58:27.700 um oh really why

03:58:30.440 yeah well do you know what happens now

03:58:33.840 in between russia and ukraine

03:58:35.360 i don't well no i know there's like the the war

03:58:37.940 but i was more asking how does that affect you

03:58:42.260 oh it's also like dating um um it's a tricky question

03:58:47.180 you know as i said before there are feminists there as well

03:58:50.980 so if you're hoping that uh russian women are somehow going to be different

03:58:54.960 they are not they are the same women

03:58:58.120 you're killing dreams

03:58:59.180 maybe maybe maybe if you go to like a provincial town somewhere in the village

03:59:05.480 you know maybe you'll be lucky to find some girl who hasn't been completely brainwashed

03:59:12.720 but if you go to big cities usually foreigners prefer st peterburg or moscow you know that

03:59:18.760 the the bigger cities that have more civilization let's say

03:59:22.840 yeah um you're going to find feminists

03:59:25.760 okay i just i um i don't speak to russians often so i was just curious while i had you on

03:59:31.820 oh that's okay

03:59:32.760 so so you don't think i'm a feminist for saying that it's a bad deal in 2024

03:59:39.280 wow that's so crazy i didn't think i'd ever get a girl

03:59:42.720 i think you are one of the most traditional women who have been raised with the dead

03:59:48.480 and this is what i keep saying to women that um having this masculine presence in your life

03:59:54.420 it's so important for women and i i just um feel very frustrated to see a lot of girls being raised

04:00:03.200 by a single mother or by the father who is not um um you know who doesn't have the authority in the

04:00:11.400 family yeah because it has been taken away from him so the mother is the one who is in charge

04:00:16.200 she's taking all of the decisions for the father and for the kids and uh the girls just turn out to

04:00:22.740 be um very promiscuous women that men don't actually want that the men that this women want

04:00:31.240 men don't want them you know yeah yeah um well it was very nice to meet you thank you for calling in

04:00:40.700 thank you bro calling calling anytime chica thank you take care you too take care all right see you

04:00:49.000 know i just wanted to i just wanted to i just wanted to point out to the women because i think

04:00:55.520 sometimes you see how she comes in with a smile on her face she's happy even if you're a liberal

04:01:02.320 okay even if you're crazy lady you can still come in smiling happy it's not that hard so thank you

04:01:10.820 thank you give me a little hope um okay who's we'll do maybe one more uh we got two guys that can go

04:01:21.880 that have been waiting for a long time maybe uh yeah why why i'm tired it's like it's like two in

04:01:29.280 the morning all right all right sorry one of you guys all right bring them on at the same time just

04:01:34.460 bring them we'll go together all right we'll go together but if you guys tag team and go crazy i'm

04:01:38.960 gonna i'm gonna protest i fought for you guys they're like i'll go crazy i do i what up guys

04:01:51.980 all right hello hey what's going on pearl so my question of the day is am i a feminist um for

04:02:00.600 saying that marriage is a bad deal for men in 2024 if yes or no tell me why um we'll start with the

04:02:07.960 gentleman in the middle what's your name uh preston preston and then what was the other guy's name

04:02:13.980 randall randall okay preston go ahead and then randall you can go next

04:02:18.960 hey pearl huge fan of the show uh no i don't think that you are a feminist for believing what

04:02:25.980 you believe um what i do think though and it's not necessarily criticism but what i do believe is

04:02:34.080 that the way in which you present the information um leads traditional conservatives and others to

04:02:40.500 make inferences that you are yeah it's it's very and i think it's more of a modern thing with the

04:02:48.300 younger generations to to include obviously the we're probably in the same generation but

04:02:53.400 it's very matter-of-factual it's very cold it's very objective it's it's very leaving the emotion

04:03:00.700 out of it and you're entering into an environment with people like michael knowles who their entire

04:03:07.380 emotional presence is tied up in catholicism and a part of that is marriage and so he makes these

04:03:12.580 inferences based upon what he believes and what you believe and it's like no it couldn't be further

04:03:18.120 from the truth um yeah what do you think um i don't think you're a feminist um i'm not a fan of

04:03:29.360 feminism uh and uh props to you for your success uh seeing some of your youtube clips and

04:03:38.880 follow you on x and i just think it's great uh what you're doing uh giving that perspective from

04:03:46.560 uh the female stance and it's just natural men men have roles and tendencies and women we're both

04:03:53.240 needed we're both necessary but um so i'm on your side and i'm really just doing this to say hey and

04:03:59.740 this is cool i can't believe i got selected well thank you guys for calling in um i i appreciate the input

04:04:08.240 thank you bro thank you all right all right fellas how fun was that i think we should do calling shows

04:04:18.100 more i was hoping to have that chick that wanted to like the crazy lady i was hoping she would talk

04:04:24.160 about the discussion and not her agenda because i am interested in talking to more people that

04:04:30.380 disagree with me i think it would be a better show

04:04:33.980 um but it's okay we'll get those as we go on

04:04:37.620 but this is going to be the new show format so let me know what you guys think in the comments

04:04:43.440 um i think i might even react to the entire michael knolls thing especially if we get if we get

04:04:49.380 re-monetized that is the first thing i'm going to react to i'll react to that entire debate from

04:04:54.520 start to finish it'll do it'll be like a quajillion light year debate okay so next time we are

04:05:01.320 streaming i'm streaming monday at the same time 8 gmt is that three eastern blessing uh i think so

04:05:08.920 okay let's check thank yeah thank you thank you i'm no first in american times that's three eastern um

04:05:18.360 you know so you know guys now the other criticism that i've gotten time and time again is that

04:05:31.060 pearl is a feminist and i think conservatives i would really caution you i would very much caution

04:05:38.860 you from

04:05:40.200 overusing that word because you've already done it and it's not going to work men aren't stupid

04:05:48.840 men are not stupid they see what's going on and you cannot shame men into a bad deal

04:05:54.700 i don't tell men what to do as i've said before i think you guys are grown men uh don't listen to a

04:06:00.820 chick about what to do with your life i mean i i'm not going to be the one that has to answer to you

04:06:06.260 in divorce court i'm not going to be the one that you know if you're alone at 55 i'm not going to be

04:06:12.960 the one that you have to answer to every guy has to decide for himself what's a good idea for him

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04:07:02.540 um

04:07:05.340 i saw derek donated

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JustPearlyThings - March 16, 2024

God won't STOP Your WIFE from LEAVING YOU ｜ Reviewing the @DailyWirePlus Debate!

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