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- November 08, 2023
Instagram Baddie SNITCHES On Herself in REAL TIME
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12 minutes
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Word Count
2,812
Sentence Count
313
Hate Speech Sentences
20
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I just don't see it as a situation.
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I just don't think it's a situation.
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I just, yeah, exactly.
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I just, I see her as a woman who has all the rights in the world to do whatever she wants.
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I didn't say she doesn't have the right to.
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I said, this is about should.
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So, like, is this appropriate for a wife and a mother?
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Why do you think she's doing it?
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What is her goal with this?
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She could be an OnlyFans model.
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To show off her figure.
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To show off her figure.
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Exactly, that's the problem.
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Yeah, I would say validation.
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It's something like this, guys.
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So, imagine, like, I use Facebook, so I'm old, so you guys probably don't use Facebook.
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Yeah.
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And I have something.
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I use Facebook.
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I have something on my Facebook called Facebook feed, or I'll scroll through.
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And so, I'm married, and so, who was on my Facebook feed?
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Like, my Halloween 11 years ago was a soft course site on Facebook,
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because all the girls were in kitten outfits and mini skirts as nurses.
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Now it's all moms, right?
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So, who I have on my Facebook are the mutual friends of myself and my wife and our neighbors.
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Now, I think to myself, like, if I'm scrolling through my Facebook feed,
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and I see the neighbor's wife posting pictures like that in her bikini,
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and I wonder what my wife would think about that.
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Like, I wonder what my wife is thinking.
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Like, huh, the neighbor's wife, who's also connected to my husband on Facebook,
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is posting pictures of herself in a bikini.
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How would you guys feel about that?
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If your husband's Facebook feed was showing the neighbor's wife dressed like that,
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how would you feel, honestly?
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It probably does.
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Wait, I have a question for you.
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Would it be wrong for your husband to like that picture?
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Hell yeah.
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Well...
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And why don't you get an issue with the picture?
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So, would it be wrong for another woman's husband to like that picture with you then?
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Because you're just doing it for yourself to show your figure.
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So, I mean, that's a...
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No, I've completely just contradicted myself.
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Like, completely.
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I don't see a problem with her posting that.
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But at the same time, of course not.
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There's boundaries.
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You can still look at a picture.
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You don't have to press like.
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You don't have to message her.
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You don't have to post it.
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You don't have to.
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You don't...
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No, you don't.
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You don't have to.
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You don't have to follow her.
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Like, like...
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See what you like.
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Follow what you don't...
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If you don't want to see that, don't follow it.
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Go at her.
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Exactly.
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Simple as that.
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If you don't like it, don't follow her.
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So, if you post that and then other men...
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Like, you're married and you post that and other men like it and your husband's like,
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hey, take it down.
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And other men liking your photo, you're like, sorry, no, it's for me.
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I do it for myself.
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No, I take that down.
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Are you going to tell that to your husband?
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No.
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No.
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If I'm going to be honest, I would probably just go, do you know what?
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I respect that because if you did that and I wanted you to take it down, I would expect
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you to take it down.
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I would.
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But you see, this is the problem I have with this logic because it's like, do you have
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to wait for someone to tell you they don't like something for you to know that something's
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inappropriate within the bounds of a relationship?
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Sometimes, yeah.
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Because...
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Yeah, sometimes.
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We have to...
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But shouldn't there be...
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Shouldn't there be...
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And this is why we say...
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Not when she's a wife, right?
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Because early in the relationships, women will intentionally test the man's boundaries to see if there's
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the boundaries setter anyways.
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But we're talking about a husband and a wife.
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If you've gotten to that stage, shouldn't you already know certain basic boundaries that
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you shouldn't cross?
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And this is the question.
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She says she's posting it for herself.
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Women need to stop saying that crap.
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You're not posting nothing for yourself because if it was for yourself, you wouldn't post it.
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You can't stay in your phone.
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You post it because you think you personally look good and you genuinely do want to share
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it to the world.
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So you're not posting it for yourself.
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You're posting it for the world.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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I have a question.
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Why can't you just look good for your husband?
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Why do you need to look good for everyone else?
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I'm not a wife.
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We're making you one.
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It is validation.
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It is validation.
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You are not.
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I understand it's marketing, right?
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Oh, 100%.
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I literally show skin, build views, and then I drop a track, and then I've got loads of views.
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That's what I do.
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Wonderful.
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I love that.
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I love what you just said because you literally, a couple of minutes ago, said that men sexualize
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women, but you are sexualizing yourself to sell records.
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Because I know men will buy into that.
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Exactly.
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So women know that.
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So women sexualize themselves.
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Women do that because of men.
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No, women sexualize themselves.
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You're not forcing us to do things.
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We choose to do things.
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I'll tell you why that is wrong.
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Because I know that I can make money by going to the bank to rob the bank.
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But that doesn't mean I'm going to do it.
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Yeah, but that's hell of a legal.
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Like, let's...
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No, legal or not.
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What you're doing isn't legal in countries either.
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Apart from legal or not, before legality comes in, if I go to the bank, if I go to someone's
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house, before the police or legality comes in, the person is obliged to defend themselves.
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So before legality comes in, I know that if I go to another man's house to try to rob
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him, he's probably going to kill me.
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So that puts me in line.
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Women know that they can sexualize themselves and get things from that.
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But does it mean they should do it?
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That's the question.
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No, it's a choice.
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We have choice.
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So you can't blame men and say men sexualize women when women readily treat themselves first.
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It's not a blame.
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Listen, this is gaslighting.
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Let me manipulate...
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Actually, I have a question.
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This is gaslighting.
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Why on earth?
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You never give sympathy to drug dealers when they sell drugs because they can.
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But yet when women choose to do sex work or OnlyFans or sexualize themselves for money,
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we want to give sympathy to the women somehow.
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There's always going to be buyers.
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There's always going to be dealers.
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You manipulate men into doing the thing that you know they're going to do if you manipulate
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them and then you blame them for being manipulated.
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Yeah, basically.
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That's gaslighting.
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Thanks for that.
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So the next woman...
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I don't write the rules.
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So the next woman we have here, this one is going to be, I think, I think it's going
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to be 50-50.
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I said inappropriate for a wife and a mother, but maybe you'll disagree.
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Let's pull up the next one.
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Thank you.
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Now, there's pros and cons of this, right?
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She does have the kid there.
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So she is showing I do have a child.
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But I almost think that makes it worse.
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You're doing a thirst trap with your kid?
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No.
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This isn't sexual.
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She's on a holiday.
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There's no thirst trap there.
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It's on a holiday.
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Where has that been to be sexy?
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I think the sexiness is when you're wearing underwear on the internet.
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I think it's inappropriate for a wife and a mother.
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Yeah.
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Raise your hand.
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I know this is going to be a controversial one.
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If you agree with me.
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Wait.
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You've got to say that.
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If it's lingerie.
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No, if it's inappropriate.
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This picture, I think, is inappropriate for a wife and a mother.
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I would say inappropriate.
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What?
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Okay.
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Now I'm in the minority.
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So I want to hear.
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It's swimwear.
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Okay.
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What other options are there?
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Wait, hold on, hold on.
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What other options are there?
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What is she supposed to wear?
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Is she supposed to wear something that's completely covered up?
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Because I've not seen that.
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A one-piece?
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I've not seen that in ages.
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It's not fashion.
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It's not fashion.
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No.
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Stop it.
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That is so silly.
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When I look at that picture, I'm not sexualizing that picture at all.
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Imagine.
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A one-piece.
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A one-piece.
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I like that show.
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It's a good show.
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So she needs to cover her belly.
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So she needs to cover her belly.
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Why does she need to cover her stomach?
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Wait, wait, wait.
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Wait, wait, okay.
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Why are we laughing at the thought of a one-piece?
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I like that show.
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Because that is...
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A one-piece?
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What's the difference?
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What's the difference?
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I don't even know what one-piece is.
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Why are you trying to make your woman look ugly on the ground?
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I wasn't trying to make her look ugly, but I do think you have a duty to your family to dress modest.
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So she's got to wear a one-piece?
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But a one-piece is only going to cover her belly.
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Exactly.
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It's not going to do much else.
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Well, you said, what else could she wear?
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Because now you guys were all acting like there was nothing else she could wear.
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Oh, and you gave an option.
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Okay, fair enough.
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She could have worn a larger pair.
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And you guys were all acting like, no, this was what she...
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She could have a song.
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She had a gun to her head and had to...
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And then question number two is, why do you have to post it?
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That's the question.
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Because the reality is, it's so funny how we're all focusing on what she's actually wearing.
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Other than, no one says she can't wear that.
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But why is she posting the picture of her wearing that?
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Is there a pool next to her?
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Because the perception is a funny thing.
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Perception is a funny thing.
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There could be a pool next to it.
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She could be going swimming.
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No, my point is that she's on holiday.
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How do we know?
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Does she have to post...
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No, even if she's on holiday, does she have to post the pictures of her on holiday where
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she's wearing it?
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But it could be a pool.
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Can I state a difference?
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Because she can wear it wherever she is, because obviously she has to wear a swimsuit to go
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in the pool, obviously.
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But why is that the picture she chooses to put in all the pictures she took on her holiday?
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Why is it that one where she's naked that she chooses to put on the internet?
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That's a validation.
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And actually, even further, the reason I saw this picture was, I pointed out some girl,
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because I've been doing this fun thing on Twitter where I judge appropriate or inappropriate.
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They should thank me, really.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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What is the police?
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Yeah, everyone gets mad.
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I'm like, you don't have to listen to my opinion.
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It's just my opinion.
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Anyway, so this woman decides to, I said, inappropriate to one chick.
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She starts tweeting at me her selfie to show me.
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I'm like, and I'm going to say inappropriate.
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Yeah.
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There's a much bigger problem with what she's posting as well.
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And this is one of the reasons why many women are choosing not to have children, is they
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believe that after they have children, they're expected to have these gorgeous bodies.
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They're expected to look like 20-year-olds.
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And when people post things like this, they're giving people the impression, well, I can't
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do that after I give birth.
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I can't, you know, my body's not going to look like that.
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I'm not going to have kids.
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They get terrified of it.
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And there needs to be a frame shift in how motherhood is done.
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And after you give birth, after you have kids, you're not expected to look like a 20-year-old
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anymore.
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So the most damaging responsibility.
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She's trying to look like a 20-year-old at all.
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I think she was, she's genuinely built that way.
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Well, she's trying.
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She's trying.
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She's trying.
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Wouldn't you be inspired if you saw a woman that's had a kid and she looks great?
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Wouldn't you be inspired to want to look like that?
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No, no.
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That's my only, I only wonder, sometimes I wonder, because when I, some guys I follow
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them, they look, they have great bodies and I get inspired by that, you know, and they've
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gone through a lot of things.
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So a mother, she's had a baby and then she looks great.
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She's not just thin, right?
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Like I've had, I've had three kids, all right?
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I'm not, I'm not huge, right?
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But I'm not sexualizing myself and that's what she's doing.
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She's posing, wearing a bikini.
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She has her breasts out.
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It is a sexualized image of herself.
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It's the pose.
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It's the pose.
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If a guy was standing there with his kid.
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I have loads of pictures with my mom and aunties where they're in obviously bikinis at the
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beach, but it's in a photo album and it's not online.
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That's a different generation.
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It's a different generation.
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What I'm trying to say is that we're trying to basically bring the old school ways of
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how modesty used to be into a new age and a new way.
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I think this woman is from the same generation though.
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Yeah, of course.
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So your point doesn't stand.
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Wait, I haven't finished.
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Oh, oh, oh.
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Okay.
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Sorry.
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I just, I just personally feel like.
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What does the guy in the green suit think?
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Sorry.
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I just personally feel like we live in 2023.
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This is made to seem normal to just take a picture of yourself and post it online, get
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loads of likes.
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It's nothing at all.
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I mean, no cause, no reaction.
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That's just how people live these days.
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One thing I've noticed throughout this conversation, it's almost like we're not realizing that everyone
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in here is also a little bit vain.
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Naturally.
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Yes.
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We all have well-closed today looking at ourselves.
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Do I look nice?
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Do I not?
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Yes.
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It's just a natural thing that no matter what we do, it's going to still be here.
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So when we post up, we're trying to say to our followers, oh, look, look at me.
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Oh, I look good today.
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But really, if you're smart or if you feel like you want to be modest in a certain way,
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you can put your page on private.
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You can also have certain people that follow you, not the predators or people that you think
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that might be a little bit like looking at you in a certain way.
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You can try and police it.
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Private stories as well, yeah.
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There we go.
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There's still a screenshot and you still get out there.
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You can't trust nothing.
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She could be brave.
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But hear me out.
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Hear me out.
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Or you could just take the picture.
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Hear me out.
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Hear me out.
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Hear me out.
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Hear me out.
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And you could send it to your husband.
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That's one.
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That's one option.
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He'll say, that's amazing, honey.
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One option.
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Send it to the group chat with your friends.
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Yeah, like you got, you could text whoever you want.
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Like how many people got to see it?
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I take acceptance of this.
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I'm incredibly vain.
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What?
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I'm not a little vain.
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Thank you for saying.
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I think you shouldn't speak on my behalf.
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Okay, the next woman, go next, please.
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I just think this is.
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Oh, Jesus.
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All right.
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I want the Mariah Carey one after this one.
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Because I got a lot of heat for that one.
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So this one, I said inappropriate.
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Inappropriate.
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Inappropriate for a wife.
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What is going on with these girls?
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Can I look like man?
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Oh, my God.
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Did you just say that?
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Is there a reason why they all put it down?
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Like, they're just falling in a hench, bro?
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I was bigger than the oldest in the background.
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All right.
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We're going to try to get through these.
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So raise your hand.
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Inappropriate.
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Raise your hand if you think it's inappropriate.
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Is she a mother and a wife?
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Because of the second picture.
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Because she's trying to show up.
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As a mother and a wife.
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Inappropriate.
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Most say.
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Okay.
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Go to the next one, please.
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Okay.
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Go to the next one, please.
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