JustPearlyThings - April 28, 2023


​@JWALLER Describes His Troubled Childhood


Episode Stats

Length

9 minutes

Words per Minute

198.5483

Word Count

1,933

Sentence Count

192

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So, Louisiana, did you have siblings?
00:00:03.000 Were you close with your parents?
00:00:04.160 What was that like?
00:00:05.520 No, so it was broken home for sure.
00:00:07.580 Mom cheated on my dad multiple times with guys from church.
00:00:11.100 From church?
00:00:11.860 Yeah, from church.
00:00:13.960 30.
00:00:15.260 What kind of church was it?
00:00:17.200 Normal, non-denominational.
00:00:18.980 Really?
00:00:19.600 It became crazy when I was a kid.
00:00:21.060 We'd go to church and people were speaking in tongues and falling on the floor and shit.
00:00:25.160 They would speak in tongues?
00:00:26.800 You ever seen that?
00:00:28.320 On YouTube, never in person.
00:00:30.180 Oh, I've seen it in person.
00:00:31.140 It's crazy.
00:00:32.120 North Louisiana, man.
00:00:33.060 Is it real?
00:00:34.300 I think it's bullshit.
00:00:35.560 Yeah.
00:00:36.320 Dude, I think it's bullshit when people put their hands in the air and close their eyes
00:00:40.000 and act like they're getting lifted and stuff.
00:00:43.300 I try not to be sacrilegious, ever.
00:00:47.180 I've just seen some things, man.
00:00:48.820 It's just like, oh, you're doing this, or you're saying this, but you're doing that.
00:00:52.580 Yeah.
00:00:53.580 And what is the red pill?
00:00:55.140 It's like calling everything out for its bullshit.
00:00:57.760 It's really just the pursuit of truth, right?
00:00:59.940 So I've seen some things, and it just kind of turns me off in time, but yeah, two guys
00:01:04.960 from church.
00:01:05.800 So you're from a broken home.
00:01:07.840 Your mom cheated on your dad.
00:01:09.540 Oh, yeah.
00:01:10.120 And then they got-
00:01:10.820 11 custody courts.
00:01:11.200 They were going to put us in a foster home, for sure.
00:01:12.880 There was a lot of violence.
00:01:13.780 They were going to.
00:01:14.520 If we would have gone again, there was a bit of violence going on.
00:01:17.440 So it's just my mom.
00:01:21.640 Yeah.
00:01:22.040 Tough situation, for sure.
00:01:24.160 And so then you graduated high school, and where'd you go next?
00:01:29.800 Yeah.
00:01:30.200 So it was kind of one of those things where I didn't know how to get out of my town unless
00:01:36.140 I played sports.
00:01:37.740 And so I played football, baseball, basketball until my junior year.
00:01:42.080 And then I found out that baseball scholarships were partial, and I didn't want to play D7
00:01:46.540 basketball, you know?
00:01:48.500 So I ended up quitting those to gain some weight and play football.
00:01:51.880 So I went and played football.
00:01:53.420 And then when I got done, I had a construction management degree, but it was 2009.
00:01:59.240 There were no jobs.
00:02:00.520 So I dug ditches for a while until I figured it out.
00:02:02.780 So how did you start your company?
00:02:07.460 Yeah, you figured it out.
00:02:08.540 That's not, you know?
00:02:09.320 Yeah, I know.
00:02:09.840 I mean, the guys-
00:02:10.460 I feel like I've told this story so many times.
00:02:11.940 I hate to be boring if anybody's ever seen this.
00:02:14.200 I've never-
00:02:14.600 So this is what happened.
00:02:16.440 I worked for a company called Austin Bridge and Road.
00:02:18.600 Mm-hmm.
00:02:19.400 And I was digging ditches or cleaning off catch basins and getting, you know, stuff for
00:02:25.620 catch basins is what catches the water under the road.
00:02:29.040 And I did that for a while.
00:02:30.280 That job ended, so I moved to Baton Rouge.
00:02:31.940 And I would wait tables at Texas Day Brazil.
00:02:35.520 And I would put up metal buildings or go apply for jobs during the daytime.
00:02:39.880 And what ended up happening was they were building this hospital job.
00:02:43.780 And I went to it once, and the lady's like, you can't see the boss?
00:02:48.340 I'm like, yes, ma'am.
00:02:48.900 Yes, ma'am.
00:02:49.380 I go back.
00:02:50.680 Can I see?
00:02:51.060 Is he available?
00:02:52.740 She's like, you can't come and see the boss.
00:02:55.760 Well, so I think it was the third or the fourth time I went.
00:02:59.360 I ended up talking to her about shit on her wall.
00:03:01.260 And her kids, because she had photos up.
00:03:03.520 And this is a job trailer on a construction site.
00:03:05.560 The hospital's not done.
00:03:06.660 They're building it.
00:03:08.480 And she goes, you know what?
00:03:09.440 Stay right there.
00:03:11.000 And I had my little resumes, because I'd go hand them out during the day, trying to get
00:03:14.100 a construction job.
00:03:15.920 And it had nothing on it, by the way.
00:03:17.280 All it was, is I played football, and I had a construction management degree.
00:03:22.900 But in 2009, there was not as much work.
00:03:25.260 We were in the recession.
00:03:26.280 So, oh, grizzled, 50-something-year-old white man comes in.
00:03:29.780 He goes, are you Justin?
00:03:30.940 I'm like, yes, sir.
00:03:31.740 He goes, come with me.
00:03:33.140 So we go back in the job trailer.
00:03:35.200 Plops down in his seat.
00:03:37.420 And he leans back, and he's like, and I'm just like, slide it to him, right?
00:03:42.240 And he looks at it, and he looks at me, and he looks at it, and he flops it down on the
00:03:45.740 table, and he goes, you mean to tell me that you've come in here three or four times?
00:03:50.900 I know about you coming in here to talk to the boss to get a job on a $40 million hospital
00:03:56.040 project.
00:03:56.480 And I'm like, yes, sir.
00:03:59.060 He took a deep breath, and he looked at me and goes, I like that shit.
00:04:02.840 And he gave me a job.
00:04:04.020 Boom, got a job.
00:04:05.940 And what I did was I went to the bank.
00:04:10.260 You had to have a net worth of $10,000.
00:04:12.820 And I had read Rich Dad Poor Dad my junior year of college.
00:04:15.840 We were on the way to play Arkansas.
00:04:17.560 And it was a bus trip.
00:04:18.880 It was short, and I tried to get through it right.
00:04:22.040 So I knew I wanted to have a business.
00:04:23.220 I understood the quadrants, as they would say, like employee, business owner, and gets
00:04:28.080 to investor, all those things.
00:04:30.280 And so what I did is I went to the bank, and I was like, listen, they're paying me per
00:04:34.580 diem.
00:04:35.760 I can live off of that.
00:04:37.400 I want you to take my whole check and put it in this other account, because I want to
00:04:40.160 save up $10,000, because you had to have a net worth.
00:04:42.820 You could have put my whole family together.
00:04:44.840 It would have been negative something.
00:04:46.640 You know what I'm saying?
00:04:47.840 So I'm like, let's leave them out of it.
00:04:50.060 Let me see if I can save this money up.
00:04:54.620 And sure enough, after six months, I saved the $10,000 up and applied for my contractor's
00:05:01.340 license.
00:05:02.460 And that was 13 years ago.
00:05:06.220 And where did you get this drive from?
00:05:09.360 Because it doesn't sound like either of your parents really, it sounds like they pushed
00:05:13.800 you into business or anything.
00:05:15.500 No, no, not at all.
00:05:16.460 Yeah, because it's like, for me, it's just expected.
00:05:20.720 That's like what everyone does.
00:05:21.920 But for you, it's so interesting to hear when people come from like a background that maybe
00:05:27.400 wasn't conducive, like the best place to grow up, and they still end up like crazy successful.
00:05:32.740 I think what happens is some people, and there are two of these people who are sitting here,
00:05:38.240 some people see what their atmosphere has to offer, and they follow it.
00:05:43.140 But some people, like me, see their atmosphere and know what they don't want to become.
00:05:49.680 And it was just simply that for me.
00:05:51.820 And then you have to think too, high testosterone, young American, red-blooded, ambitious, sports
00:05:58.340 background, competitive.
00:06:00.140 And I wouldn't even say I'm that competitive, really.
00:06:02.560 Like I don't compare myself to people ever, ever, ever.
00:06:05.480 And it's not because I'm like super against it.
00:06:07.360 I just don't feel that way.
00:06:08.740 It would be disingenuous for me to be like, I don't compare myself to other people because
00:06:13.220 I love myself.
00:06:14.220 No, I just really don't feel that way.
00:06:15.540 I'm just, I do love myself.
00:06:17.640 And for the, you know.
00:06:18.220 Um, so I don't know exactly where it came from in regards to like what sparked it, but I
00:06:26.360 do quite enjoy it.
00:06:27.900 And I think that's probably has something to do with it.
00:06:29.960 And I also think it's a bigger risk to have a really good job and be capped out than it
00:06:36.580 will ever be to fail.
00:06:37.800 I'd much rather fail.
00:06:38.680 I go bankrupt tomorrow.
00:06:39.960 I would get a job that was shit enough that when I got caught working on my business, they'd
00:06:44.940 fire me and I wouldn't care.
00:06:45.800 And I think a lot of people get caught in that trap.
00:06:49.060 They get that really good job and that mortgage has got to get paid.
00:06:53.220 And if they lose that job, they're fucked.
00:06:56.560 And I was just as happy in a shitty apartment that I am in my place in Miami or my new house
00:07:01.140 in Dubai is going to be, you know?
00:07:03.560 So I actually think it's harder for you.
00:07:09.040 Really?
00:07:09.640 I do.
00:07:10.060 I hear every day how I had it very easy.
00:07:12.740 No, I get that.
00:07:13.420 But it's perception though.
00:07:14.660 Yeah.
00:07:15.200 It's perception.
00:07:16.360 Like I always say about rich children, it's like being born in the zoo in captivity.
00:07:21.320 Let's say you're a lion.
00:07:22.100 You get born in the zoo.
00:07:22.820 You get fed every day.
00:07:24.120 The zoo closes.
00:07:25.280 They kick you out into the jungle, but you don't know how to hunt.
00:07:28.620 And for you, it's the gap in perception, right?
00:07:35.180 So anything short of being white trash from Louisiana, I'm doing better than I started.
00:07:40.980 For you to even get to where your father got you guys is a lot of fucking work.
00:07:45.780 Oh, I will not.
00:07:46.480 Right?
00:07:46.720 I will not get to where my father is.
00:07:48.640 But you do understand.
00:07:49.720 I don't want to want that life back.
00:07:50.480 To be clear, you do understand.
00:07:51.520 Yeah.
00:07:51.880 So maybe for you, it's a freedom thing or something else?
00:07:54.300 What is it?
00:07:54.860 What do you mean?
00:07:55.500 What drives you?
00:07:56.920 What?
00:07:57.180 I'm interviewing you now.
00:07:57.800 Oh, my dad, he owns a software company.
00:08:00.900 So he includes like the same amount of people, roughly like 200.
00:08:04.940 Yeah.
00:08:05.420 He sold it though, so he does it anymore.
00:08:07.940 But I just, I would never see myself getting this that big.
00:08:13.960 And if I did, like I'd need someone else to manage it.
00:08:16.420 Because I just, I'm a woman.
00:08:17.880 I don't like managing people.
00:08:19.400 I'm too agreeable, you know?
00:08:21.380 Are you?
00:08:22.140 Yeah.
00:08:23.880 You need to hire a bitch.
00:08:25.600 What?
00:08:25.940 You need to hire a bitch.
00:08:27.320 A bitch?
00:08:28.060 Oh, yeah.
00:08:28.780 They're the best.
00:08:30.160 Especially one that loves you.
00:08:31.560 Yeah.
00:08:32.300 If you, like, you know how they say behind every good man is a strong woman?
00:08:35.840 Mm-hmm.
00:08:36.860 Sometimes women are really good managers.
00:08:38.960 I have women in very important management roles.
00:08:41.720 Mm-hmm.
00:08:42.380 So, toughen up or file one.
00:08:46.520 Yeah.
00:08:47.100 I just, I just think 200 people, that would be a lot.
00:08:49.500 I don't.
00:08:50.360 It's a lot, but if you understand, like, scaling and stuff like that, think about it.
00:08:55.380 People do it all the time.
00:08:56.420 Don't tell me.
00:08:57.400 How do you scale?
00:08:58.320 How do you scale?
00:08:58.960 Yeah, I don't, I don't know.
00:09:00.200 Well, systems.
00:09:01.640 Mm-hmm.
00:09:02.500 Hiring systems.
00:09:03.700 Okay.
00:09:03.960 Understanding the psychology of the, it's a very long conversation.
00:09:07.380 Okay.
00:09:07.860 But we can, we can have a scaling conversation.
00:09:10.000 Probably.
00:09:10.540 It's a, it's a whole different show.
00:09:11.840 Oh, this is, this is like, that's too far.
00:09:13.860 It's a, it's a, it's long-winded.
00:09:14.780 It's not a, it's not a five second.
00:09:16.220 It'll be an hour from now.
00:09:17.600 And you'll be like, okay, well, it was good talking to you.
00:09:22.300 Okay.
00:09:22.860 It took me a decade to figure out, I tell you.
00:09:25.080 We can come back to, to scaling.
00:09:27.180 Yeah, we can.
00:09:27.520 We can come.
00:09:27.980 As many of you know, I was just banned on TikTok and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this platform.
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