JustPearlyThings - November 09, 2023


Modern Surprises Pearl After Saying This


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9 minutes

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218.35312

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2,109

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147


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00:00:00.000 If I don't have a child, someone else will.
00:00:03.360 So there's always going to be somebody that does.
00:00:06.040 There's always going to be recreation.
00:00:07.680 Always.
00:00:08.780 Personally.
00:00:09.560 Because I'm single.
00:00:11.000 I don't have a child.
00:00:11.860 I genuinely thought at 28, I would have had a kid by now.
00:00:15.420 But my career is more important at the moment.
00:00:19.380 And I do want children, but not right now.
00:00:21.460 But while I'm still focusing on my career,
00:00:23.740 there's a lot of other women getting pregnant right now.
00:00:27.940 Literally.
00:00:28.340 Yeah, but I think it's actually,
00:00:30.360 we're having less kids than ever in history.
00:00:32.780 So I guess the question is,
00:00:34.460 if the population's collapsing because women aren't having kids,
00:00:38.220 does it become women's duty to have children?
00:00:41.220 Do we owe society, do we owe civilization children?
00:00:45.000 Handmaid's tale.
00:00:46.460 I didn't say handmaid's tale, but your answer is no.
00:00:51.060 I'll let you go next, but one second.
00:00:52.500 But your answer is no?
00:00:53.900 You don't think so?
00:00:54.760 No.
00:00:55.260 No? Okay, fair enough.
00:00:56.360 Go ahead.
00:00:56.580 If it turns out that the only way that a cultural group can motivate women to have children
00:01:02.320 is by forcing them, then the only cultural groups that exist in the future will be the
00:01:06.760 cultural groups that force women to have children.
00:01:09.040 And this is something we're increasingly seeing in places like China.
00:01:12.380 You know, if we see society today as alliance of disparate cultural groups,
00:01:16.420 and we're asking why do so few people have children today?
00:01:19.260 The dominant cultural group, we call that the urban monoculture.
00:01:21.860 It's the culture that's in London, New York, all over the world today.
00:01:24.660 It controls our media, it controls our centers of power.
00:01:26.980 It tells people do what you want, be who you want, search for your happiness and your purpose
00:01:32.300 in the world, but it doesn't tell people to sacrifice.
00:01:35.080 And children require sacrifice.
00:01:37.760 And so what we do with the Pronatalist Foundation, sometimes it makes it so clear by, you know,
00:01:42.460 I could never be a Noah, right?
00:01:44.800 Because I'm like, hey, we want to maintain and hopefully increase this beautiful diversity
00:01:49.940 that makes up our culture today.
00:01:52.040 And then, you know, like if I was Noah, like a unicorn comes up to me and it's like,
00:01:55.740 hey man, like this is some pretty hateful stuff you're saying that we need to get fertility rates up.
00:01:59.520 And I'm like, whoa, you don't need to get on the boat.
00:02:02.200 Like I'm just pointing out that in a world of collapsing fertility and to give an idea
00:02:06.300 of how quickly fertility is collapsing.
00:02:08.480 If, so I started caring about this when I was working in South Korea at South Korea's
00:02:12.460 current fertility rate.
00:02:13.580 If it doesn't continue to go down for every hundred Koreans, there's going to be six great
00:02:17.000 grandchildren.
00:02:17.760 If the U.S., if we assume that it continues to decline at the rate it did from 2010 to
00:02:21.940 2020 for every hundred Americans, this is assuming we have a generation every 30 years for
00:02:26.260 every hundred Americans, there's going to be 4.3 great grandchildren.
00:02:28.620 And so what's so cool about this period in history that we're in is anyone who can motivate
00:02:33.400 intergenerational fertility rates.
00:02:35.020 And when I say intergenerational, you can't just like spam sex and have a bunch of kids
00:02:38.140 or something.
00:02:38.900 You have to love those kids.
00:02:40.600 You have to make them want to continue your culture.
00:02:44.640 Anyone who's doing that gets to play a role in this future of humanity and gets to play
00:02:49.140 an outsized role due to collapsing fertility rates.
00:02:53.220 What are the ways that you best see we can motivate people to have more children?
00:02:57.400 The number one thing we need to do is protect any country you go to.
00:03:00.860 You go to the U.K., you go to the U.S., anywhere you go, there's going to be high fertility
00:03:04.220 cultural groups.
00:03:05.280 The problem is, from the perspective of the urban monoculture, is these groups are deplorable.
00:03:10.500 You know, they are conservative Catholics.
00:03:12.420 They're conservative evangelicals.
00:03:13.960 They're Orthodox Jews, you know, as he was talking about.
00:03:16.320 And so it sees its job because they're different.
00:03:18.760 You know, anyone who's different from an individual's culture says, we got to stamp them out.
00:03:22.500 And so it takes their kids and it stamps out their culture and it says, just do whatever
00:03:26.780 you want to be happy in the moment, which none of these older, disparate, you know, high
00:03:30.420 fertility traditions, Amish, et cetera, do, you know.
00:03:33.500 And so I think the number one thing we need to do is we need to protect the children of
00:03:37.220 high fertility cultures and any sort of deviant cultural group that says, look, I want to
00:03:41.600 do things differently than what society is telling me the way to do it.
00:03:44.120 Because I don't think society has things figured out right now.
00:03:45.860 You know, I look at mental health rates.
00:03:46.940 I look at suicide rates.
00:03:48.620 I look at, you know, I don't think that society has the right to say, this is the only way
00:03:54.240 to be.
00:03:55.340 And I really love the, you know, the diversity in this room and all of the different ways
00:03:59.460 that people see their ancestry and their obligation to the future.
00:04:03.020 Yeah.
00:04:03.760 I think we should stop birth control as well for young girls.
00:04:06.540 I think that's one of the biggest reasons why.
00:04:08.420 You're on the ban birth control.
00:04:10.540 I'm with it.
00:04:11.780 Because like that way they'll abstain from sex more because I feel like when you just,
00:04:15.480 oh yeah, take the pill, I'll do this.
00:04:16.920 It's for my periods, for the pain.
00:04:18.240 No, you're meant to learn.
00:04:19.260 You're meant to go through the pain.
00:04:20.400 That's the whole point of giving birth because that period is literally like a little.
00:04:25.260 Well, and they put them on.
00:04:26.540 It's so young now.
00:04:27.500 It's so young.
00:04:28.220 So young.
00:04:28.480 So when you hear loads of girls say, I have PCOS, I have this, I have that.
00:04:31.740 You just turned 30.
00:04:32.680 My mom's like, no, Shan, there's women that are like 45 having children in Jamaica, three
00:04:36.920 boys.
00:04:37.160 Yeah.
00:04:37.760 So what's going on there?
00:04:39.120 If you stop the birth control, girls will get more scared to get pregnant.
00:04:42.900 And so they are staying for more sex, it means that they'll have a better future to actually
00:04:47.240 have kids because everything down there is blessed.
00:04:50.080 Well, and a lot of, like you meet a lot of girls that like end up having fertility problems
00:04:55.680 later and they can't directly link it.
00:04:57.940 Like you don't know.
00:04:58.700 I mean, they don't know for sure, but I know at least one girl that like she was, she took
00:05:04.100 one of the shots that they gave her like for like a nest, like, like the preventative
00:05:08.320 ones or whatever.
00:05:09.800 And yeah, no, she can't have kids.
00:05:11.480 And she's like 40.
00:05:12.480 And she was actually, um, cause she was, she watched me when I was younger.
00:05:15.720 She was so like loving.
00:05:17.300 It's like the saddest thing that she couldn't have children.
00:05:19.440 Cause she would have been a great mom.
00:05:21.000 And it's like, you can't find which one to pinpoint it on because they're not, they
00:05:24.320 don't make it so clear.
00:05:25.340 But a lot of women feel like that is what it is.
00:05:27.440 Another lady told me yesterday, I was having this conversation in my broadcast list.
00:05:31.020 She goes that she went to the doctors and because she keeps taking the morning after
00:05:35.220 pill, he said that it was literally like a bomb waiting to explode inside of her.
00:05:40.060 Yeah.
00:05:40.320 The morning after pills.
00:05:41.360 How many did she take?
00:05:42.340 She took like five within a year, I think.
00:05:45.600 Um, or I don't know what it was like, but she was like, it's because it's like a bomb
00:05:49.780 cause she didn't want to take like the normal type of thing and she was in a long term
00:05:53.520 relationship.
00:05:54.280 So there's situations that cause that type of thing, but it's like, it was like a bomb.
00:05:58.420 Yeah.
00:05:58.780 It's not good for you.
00:05:59.660 It's even worse than the normal one.
00:06:01.580 So it's not even, oh, you should have taken that much.
00:06:03.600 It's just, oh crap.
00:06:05.600 Like this thing is really bad for us.
00:06:07.500 There was a girl on my show that was infertile because of plan B's.
00:06:10.900 Yeah.
00:06:11.080 She couldn't have kids.
00:06:12.400 I still think there should be a choice though with guys and females.
00:06:15.460 Like I feel like it sucks that we've got to go through everything and take contraceptive
00:06:19.740 when guys should have that option too.
00:06:22.580 I don't think it should be banned.
00:06:23.880 I think there should be choice always.
00:06:26.760 But I guess my question is at what cost?
00:06:30.260 If society is collapsing, right?
00:06:32.860 If, if we're not replacing the population and they predict we're going to have all these
00:06:37.180 issues in the future, it's like, at what cost do we allow people to choose whatever?
00:06:41.780 I'm not saying I have all the answers, but it's worth a conversation asking, do we allow
00:06:46.620 everything and anything?
00:06:47.740 Yeah.
00:06:48.040 Well, I, I, sorry.
00:06:49.260 I think in terms of going back to your question, um, do women owe society, uh, uh, babies,
00:06:57.340 children?
00:06:57.600 Yeah.
00:06:58.260 I think the word owe got, uh, a lot of people's backs up in there, you know?
00:07:02.700 Um, and I get it.
00:07:03.640 But my personal thing is, do we need to push something back into society for giving us what
00:07:09.820 we have in terms of our livelihoods, our everyday lives, our jobs and blah, blah, blah.
00:07:14.100 Absolutely.
00:07:14.560 Because we need to keep this generation going.
00:07:16.680 So I think the word owe, again, it was a bit of a, you know, just one of, one of those
00:07:22.060 all, I don't know, you know, basically where you, where you're coming from.
00:07:24.820 That's why a lot of people was a bit upset with it.
00:07:26.900 But again, um, I, look, I'm a father of two, you know, beautiful boys.
00:07:32.760 Absolutely.
00:07:33.640 And they teach me things every day.
00:07:35.840 And I also teach them things, you know?
00:07:37.840 Um, and I think having children, obviously it does fall more on the mom, especially when
00:07:43.420 a dad goes to work and everything.
00:07:44.700 So I understand the pressure of it.
00:07:46.500 Um, but again, I only see the beauty in it as, again, coming from a father's point of
00:07:50.720 view.
00:07:50.960 And even, even the word owe, when you think about it, like, I think you owe society, you
00:07:56.060 know, to be a decent, non-crime committing, tax paying citizen.
00:08:00.640 Yeah.
00:08:00.980 But we can say that freely.
00:08:02.800 No one would argue.
00:08:03.620 But when you ask about children, there's a, a gut, you know, it's, it's almost too much.
00:08:09.200 I wanted to add some color to like the plan B thing.
00:08:11.840 And, and, and there's so many things in our society now where we think that biologically
00:08:15.120 we're the same as like our grandparents were, but you know, sperm rates have dropped by something
00:08:19.240 like over 50% in the last 51 years.
00:08:22.420 Testosterone's dropped something like 30% in the last 20 years.
00:08:25.040 Um, you know, it's someone, if you want to talk about the TIDE studies.
00:08:28.380 Yeah.
00:08:28.800 I'm not really sure if you're familiar with them.
00:08:30.640 TIDES, basically a bunch of longitudinal researchers looked at the levels of endocrine
00:08:35.760 disruptors in, in women who are pregnant first trimester.
00:08:39.420 And then they measured a bunch of things with the children they had afterwards.
00:08:42.200 It turns out that the, especially when they were pregnant with boys, they were disproportionately
00:08:45.540 affected by endocrine disruptors, which are in everything from like receipts we're picking
00:08:49.320 up to our shampoo, to our lotion, plastic in our water bottles, et cetera.
00:08:53.980 And, um, in addition to boys being born with lower, what's called anal genital distance taint,
00:09:00.420 um, when they were age seven, eight, they had lower, we'll say gender dimorphic, lower boy
00:09:05.980 like play.
00:09:06.820 So they were actually acting less like boys when they were older.
00:09:09.380 So we're seeing a whole generation of young men who've been affected essentially by pollutants
00:09:13.960 in our environment, who, who knows how else this is showing up, probably infertility things
00:09:17.680 like Malcolm alluded to, but I, I, you know, I think that this should be reframed.
00:09:21.140 It's not about owing.
00:09:22.180 It's also, we have to look at who deserves the future because those who show up for the
00:09:26.120 future are those who inherit it.
00:09:27.340 That's, you know, society is built by those who show up and those women and men who choose
00:09:32.340 to have families and who choose to raise kids are those who deserve the future.
00:09:35.680 And we are here because people who deserved the future chose to represent themselves in it.