Modern Woman Supports ONLYF＊NS
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In this episode, we discuss the topic of Women Deserve Respect. Do modern women deserve it or not? Do men deserve it? Do women deserve to be treated with respect just for being a woman? Do they deserve respect for what they bring to the table?
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She's going to have me because of what I bring to the table,
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Women need men more than men sort of need women.
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I think women want a respect they do not give to men.
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You cannot respect someone if they do not respect you.
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I don't think a queen can be a queen without a king.
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Boobies and butts and fannies and everything's out there.
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Women will push you to be like, go queen, go do that.
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But at the end of the day, you are losing more respect for yourself
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by listening to a woman telling you to go out and do that thing
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Now, what made me think of this topic, all right,
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I think women nowadays tends to be like very feminist focused.
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which like understandable, we're women, we think about ourselves.
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I think with everything that's going on in the world and everything,
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they're expecting a lot from men, a lot of respect for men
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he's going to have me because of what I bring to the table,
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That's what I feel like most of the women nowadays can bring.
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Women who are out here, like run their own business,
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Like I understand that you're bringing other stuff to the table then,
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But for the women who don't have stuff like that.
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Do you think men care about if women are building a...
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But for women, I feel like women really think that men care,
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I feel like women do not deserve respect off the bat.
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However, I feel like a certain level of respect
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Do you not think it's like the other way around?
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and they're respecting their respect straight away,
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So women are willing to give respect immediately
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rather than the man trying to give it to the woman.
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Some people just generally want women for status
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I'd probably think status isn't the right word,
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is immoral yeah can i comment on that actually go ahead so i i done an only fan but it wasn't like
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vagina boobs it was lingerie yeah boobs are whatever i done it and when i finished it i
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felt very degraded i felt very like why did i actually do that now i know there's girls out
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there who do that they don't feel that way that is perfectly fine you do you you feel the way you
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feel but me personally like like in the future how like when i have kids and all in the future
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and if my kids found out about that they'll probably get bullied in school they'll people
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be like oh your mom done this your mom done that and your man as well he's not going to if you
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don't respect yourself and you're selling your body online i can't speak for everyone i can just speak
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for myself if you're selling your body online like that there's not there's not a high respect for
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yourself why expect that from others then you know what i mean and it's like if you're doing that sex
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work it's so different for you how much money did you make into so i basically done it like
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consecutively for like a week like literally i posted for a full yeah first week in total
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first week i made about 2000 that was from people being nosy and from people
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so you made two reds in the first week in one week in one week and you felt this shit
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100 if you've seen the stuff that people would ask you and even outside of it even to this day i don't
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do it anymore but people still being like to me oh well you used to have only fans like what was
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that like you you you must be real freaky no why are you going for what they talking about
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it's because i wasn't posting this whole vagina i wasn't doing the whole thing you know what i
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mean so you won you ain't show no man you know i showed i showed the titties i showed the titties
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but i didn't i didn't show nothing else you know what i mean and it was kind of to a point where it's
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like i thought i could do that when i got onto it do you think she won money but she didn't win
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respect i didn't win respect do you think that you should be judged for doing sex work
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to an extent it does i don't care what anybody says in my opinion it does it does speak a lot
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about yourself it does it 100 even for me like when i done it people knew the type of girl i was
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like i'm very out there i'm open i don't care i'll speak what i speak and say what i say and do what
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i do but when i done it i just didn't expect to big like whoa what did you expect i don't know what
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what were you thinking before you did it before i did it i was like get me get the bag get some money
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just get some money see what was there someone that influenced you to do it oh yeah i see all
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these girls doing it and getting the money but the one thing i did on instagram tiktok some girls i
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know and i'm like girl get it if that's what you want to do that is perfectly fine like do you
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me personally i couldn't do it like that do you understand if a guy would disqualify you in the
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future for that that was the first thing i said i can understand how a man would look at me and why
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why do you think that you accept that where other girls will call the man misogynistic
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feelings they're not using their logic they're like how dare you speak about me like that and
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it's like you're taking it so personal i was like you obviously must feel a specific way about
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yourself if that's how you're speaking about man a man being misogynistic because he won't take
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you up for that that that that's about your own respect levels and that that's just your own
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opinion like do you do you guys think that sex work is immoral um speaking to your mic just
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to an extent yes um a lot of points that you mentioned i'd agree with i feel like it comes
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off very desperate and i just generally feel like um doing them sort of things don't make
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you seem like a very good person in the way of so it's not your fault like i'm not blaming you for
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it how is it not your fault whose fault is it i think i think you're like genuinely like i feel
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like obviously i'm not gonna put the blame on everyone else i feel i believe everyone should
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take accountability for the actions and whatnot but i feel like upbringing and the like financial
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state you're in can influence you a lot with them sort of things but you can look at someone that's
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born in the same upbringing and they don't make those decisions yeah no 100 100 um i feel like
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they even just being born in this century you're richer than most people were in all of human history
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that's true i agree with that i just feel like because again going on back onto the part of the
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society that we're in now obviously back in the day it was prostitution that was looked down upon
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more now only fans is being favored especially by like men and whatnot like men that start only
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fans um they get favored they're like all right he he's he's doing his thing like he's fucking
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different bitches every night type vibe it's like it gets favored and it's normalized to the point
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where you think men make more money on only fans than women um i don't know the statistics so i won't
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speak on that but um obviously i know i i personally know men that are on only fans and they do make
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money like what's make money as in like they make how much a substantial amount probably like 30k a
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month so like it is a thing obviously it's not as normal as women doing it but it is a thing
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it's crazy how men were the ones that kind of that kind of run the porn society and it's the women
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that are falling into it oh sorry corn society my apologies how they run the corn societies but
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obviously women being consumers as it is we're going to be the ones to jump into it more you know i mean
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compared to men yeah okay so what do you think um is sex work immoral yes i absolutely think so for
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any sex it doesn't even matter um male or female we weren't made to do that right like um even just
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the fact that we have to wear clothes and layers is to protect right so even before you put on your
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regular clothes you have on undergarments right and so that in and of itself just shows the default
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nature of how that's supposed to be more sacred it's supposed to be more private more secure right
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we even refer to it as private parts private areas so absolutely it's immoral to just be
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flaunting that and giving it to anyone yeah what about you um so for myself i would say it would
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be immoral for me but i i don't know like i think is morality different is morality different for
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different people like if i steal and you steal it's different general no but i think some people
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will kind of rationalize what they're doing and then say that they have their reasons for it and then
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i'm not i don't know their life so i don't know what their reasons would be but if i steal
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it because i'm hungry does that does that make it different it's not okay but people are going to do
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what they're going to do so if they do it no but i'm asking if you think it's moral no i've not for
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me i wouldn't no but for everyone do you think it's moral no no okay okay okay thank you all right go
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hell no and i and i think like now um you know i also think as i get older like if i had a daughter
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what would my answer be right like i think it's you know just think about that but also too like i
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think the word the terminology sex work is it's it's a really like large term there's a lot of things
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that could be encompassed within that but i also think uh sex work you know could be you know a lot
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of these hollywood stars that you know show up half naked to the red carpet right like i was looking at the
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oscars and sierra just showed up to the oscars uh like literally half naked and she has two or three
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kids and is married to a a a multi multi-millionaire rossa wilson that to me is a component of sex work
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as well because she's taking degrees of her sexuality putting it somewhere and and going to get brand deals
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because of it right like and everything that comes from it right so like i even think when we talk about
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sex work the definition has to be expanded for modern times today because although
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she's not doing that and getting direct money or maybe that she is from the outfit that she's
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wearing she could be right but then also what comes of that right and if there's an exchange of
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money then that's sex work as well uh i don't know man i don't know my my thoughts on it different
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everybody else i don't i don't really see nothing wrong with it because like
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sex work been going on since the beginning of the time it's never gonna stop have you ever had a
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process no i don't i don't i don't do that i'm just saying it's gonna happen like women gonna get
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money they're gonna use what they got to get money men gonna do the same thing see i'm like torn on it
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because on one hand i sometimes agree with you like i sometimes think it's needed in a society
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because what are the one in three men gonna do and if you if you think sex is a need which it sort of
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is for men but then it just makes my stomach turn to say that too that's why i'm kind of told i don't
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know let me ask you let me ask you something who you think have sex more a regular girl
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or somebody who do only fans like who got one person one person who they sleep with an only fan
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they do only fan who you think i would agree i mean who you think having sex more or a stripper
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versus just a regular girl no i think it's the i think girls that do promiscuous behavior
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are like tend to make more promiscuous like choices like i think if someone does that they're
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probably more likely to sleep around that's my opinion i know some people will say no but
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i would be able to do all right i would really be able to do because i'm with you i don't know why
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i'm always with you but i'm with you if you ever um been close with a stripper or kind of see what
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they what they do like they're scheduling how they work they ain't really yeah they they going
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to the club doing anything they come home count up their money get up in the morning go to the bank
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deposit them ones they ain't really out here just messing around like that but it might be another
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girl who going to the strip club just throwing ones on them but they that night i think yeah
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girls in the strip club are desensitized to it right so that they're when you are stripping for
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a man and doing that you have to sell a fantasy to him right you have to get into this persona
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and give him the dream for the night so he will give you the money right and so once you come off of
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that in your home and you're with your family or whatever you usually they have kids that they're
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taking care of and they're doing stuff for they're exhausted they're tired because i just had to go and
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pretend to be someone that i wasn't and i don't even want i'm i'm disgusted by men to a certain
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degree right because i know how creepy they are they come here and they're their most vulnerable
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and nasty and all the stuff that everyone else is going to look at you crazy for i have to take it
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because you're paying me to take it so i think they're desensitized to it honestly i can see your
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point and then on the other end um it's a girl i'm not going to say her name but she's super big
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her only fan like she she getting like 200 000 a month her only fan she only she only sleep with
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one dude on only fans yeah there's girls like that as well think about it she getting money you can't
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you can't you don't get more money than her and she already got a dude who who's pleasing her
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sexually so she not you're not finna even go be able to go mess with her yeah but the question is
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based on morality morality is con is grounded in principles so then but would you be okay if your
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daughter but what is morality what are the things that we do on every on every day for for the for
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money but let's say that you had a daughter as a father you pass on virtues you you pass on values
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you pass on principles you pass on morality and if your daughter if your daughter is doing that
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is that something i'm not gonna agree with my daughter doing it so then the answer to the
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question for you is no you think it's a moral i'm not i'm not i'm not gonna i wouldn't agree with my
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my daughter or my see you're doing a lot of i do but i'm wrong i'm gonna do it well then it's a
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moral what you can't control what your little babies do you got to just lead them in the right
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way and hope that they grow up and do the things that you'll be pleased with but you still got to
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love them i think there's a place for them i think it's been there for a long time i think that if
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you're going to be a sex worker you should be single you shouldn't expect no man and there should be a
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slut island where you can just get a ferry over to slut island and you know like what's it called
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hit the box what they call it that boxing so like can regular people go to that island like
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no i think that's because we should do a reality show i think for me i think it becomes immoral when
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they're they're looking for they've got children they've got partners or they expect to get a man
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through it and i think that if you're going to be a sex worker that's what you're going to be
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i don't expect to be nothing else don't expect to be a wife you shouldn't be a mom i think if
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you're a mother and you're you're a sex worker you're the only fans i think if you're a partner
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and you're the only fan or anything like that i think if you're a wife no but other than that if
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you're single you want to go and do it and you're not harming no one go to slut island and just have
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an old island as women though i do think now i will say this and it ain't my place to say this either
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but i do think it's a time limit on it at a certain point so you always here you need to
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get your ass out the streets but nobody's gonna want you after that that's what i'm saying stay on
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the island because once you started you can't be 30 you can't be four to five out here it depends how
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bad that she is have you seen that there was an article about like an 80 year old woman on tinder
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guys we're still i mean she's gonna she'll be like the five she'll be like the five dollar special
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it'll be real i said we'll always forgive if she's bad enough yeah um i'm curious what do you guys
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think is sex work moral immoral um i think it's immoral immoral uh i don't know i i personally think
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like i have a lot of friends and a lot of people so maybe i'm a bit desensitized to it but i think
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corn has been happening for ages i think as consenting adults you know well corn has it
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yeah it's been okay how before i'm not too but this is this but even before like think about it we
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had there's always sex work the statues even of naked women like women have always been kind of
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admired for their bodies yeah i don't know if the statues are the same thing as like not really but i
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mean as in like admiring women for their bodies and like i don't know i just we don't think
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there's a difference between like a sexual picture and like abuse because some of the older
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pictures um wouldn't it be the same difference though whose phone's ringing um some but some of
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the older pictures it's it's it's it's times have moved forward though so i can imagine even sex back
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then wasn't how we have sex now you know we've become more and more uh modern freaky disgusting
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i know disgusting you know people people i think watch corn really early and normal sex becomes
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boring and you want to spice things up and you do more and more things that maybe didn't happen back
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in the day not to say that that's right or wrong it's it's for everything yeah well yeah yeah
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so to answer the question moral or immoral i don't think it's immoral no i just think it's immoral
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um so then you think it's immoral i i don't know i just think it's each to their own i think it's
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each to their own i think if moral or immoral okay we got it i think if you're single and like you
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said andy andy said it was moral yeah i think it is more as long as it suits your lifestyle and like
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she said i think as long as you don't expect to for everyone just to accept it and understand i think
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it's moral no i said don't expect a man don't expect anyone to marry i think women too make sure
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you're talking to your sorry you shouldn't have any children don't expect a man once you decide on
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the sex work that's you till you die get sex work insurance no i'm not saying that i think i'm
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saying that's how it should be because if somebody knows that this is how you start you know you're
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gonna you're not gonna get anybody that should be able to put women off but there's women are
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going out they say i can go and be only fans i can still get a husband i can then be gonna be only
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fans i'm not gonna have my children i can be only fans no after you know that that is it you're
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gonna have to take dick for the rest of your life you get the scraps but there's a lot of women that
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go out and don't do only you don't get around a lot i'm talking about anyone that has sex for money
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anybody that isn't money i'm talking about like just normal people that when they don't have their
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children they go out and they sleep with loads of people and they don't do only fans but they still
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get married and they still get respected because we've got not weave because there's a platform
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that you're like showcased on it's highlighted but there's a lot of women in privacy that do
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a lot worse than women do you know what do you know what it says if you go on only fans that you have
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no shame and so and so it's like you don't you don't you don't care about bringing shame to your
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family you have no shame some families like don't mind you think the kids don't mind i mean kids don't
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obviously kids don't have like the same view i mean like mums and dads like some people just you know
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but it's still saying i'm putting my my money before bringing shame to the family name depending
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on what your family view is on it right but i'm saying what are the kids get no say in this so
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it's still it still goes back to i always talk about this the me me me culture where it's me before
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the children yeah oh okay well hopefully the kids will turn out fine but you know i need this money so
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i'm going to do this now there's a lot of porn stars with children that are okay as well porn stars
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porn stars sorry sorry yeah um outliers some people literally listen if we could if we could so like
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so the thing is is that so the way that you talk it's kind of like in this this um this my truth
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you know it just is what it is everyone can make decisions but at the same time as i hear it it
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sounds like people can make decisions without repercussions or consequences and i think that's
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on a slippery slope because when we do that it starts to get away from accountability and the thing is
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is like when you look at generally what men typically want out of women men typically do not want women
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that have been conquered sufficiently and especially have done it for money and especially have put their
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viscous innards up on the internet but there's also a massive misconception that like um the gentleman
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said there's a lot of women that only sleep with their boyfriends on there and also that there's a
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misconception that if you do only found your easy whereas it's most of the time it's actually very
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opposite to get in contact with this woman normally you have to pay up front like you're not con she's not
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responding she gets so many dms a day she's not going to respond to you and it's immoral in the way of like
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money money money money comes first but i'm saying there's a misconception that just because a girl
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does only fans that she's maybe easy or easy easy access and it's not it doesn't but that's not what
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i'm saying it's it's sex work men of value if you can if you want to when the entertainment besides
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let's say like a kanye a kanye west what people in entertainment have women that have done only fans
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publicly there's a lot of people that do playboy and like maybe not as um as graphic but there's
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still there's still men married women with children my memory is terrible so i'm just saying it should
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be easy if it happens a lot there's loads five if you would have asked me to before i could have
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probably researched it but no not off the top of my head no but i'm saying if this was common
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if this was common like you should be able to to name five or at least one two three off the top
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of your head i think far too often when we have these conversations if women if women's goal is
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to be with men then you have to consider what men want and irrespective of the brand if she had been
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involved with that it's going to deselect a lot of women and here's the thing there's a lot of women
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that sit in situationships that think they're in good standing with the man but the man just don't say
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ish yeah but they continue they continue in that situationship and just don't don't tell her the
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truth while it's fine while it's still extracting and then as soon as they don't they won't take them
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while still extracting their insides so they're getting what they want and that they already know
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there's going to be an expiration date at the end of it yeah so the thing is is is what is your goal
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and how how are you working towards your goal what are the actions that you're putting in the place
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and i think if we if it's on a slippery slope where you're not understanding what men want and if the
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result is a man that you have to make some changes within the way that you move within that
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well i think it's obvious it started it started doing only fans she's not thinking about getting
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married that's the last thing on my mind exactly that's not what she's trying to do until time runs
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out yeah and then she has to think about something have you ever thought about it or considered it
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or done it only fan um or stripping no because you just seem really like it's like part of you like
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you're in the circle you know is i have a lot of i have a lot of close friends that do it and i can
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understand um and even being a photographer that does laundry and i i promote body positivity so i
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post myself in laundry on my my content i'm plus size i try to like do you know what i mean so it's
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not it's not exactly that but like it's kind of within a tiny bit of a window with it you go further
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you're going to start there now and you're going to get so body positivity you're going to get so
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positive about your body you're going to think you know what my friends are doing it i can go and be
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positive on only fans and get paid for it like a dominoes if i did i would understand the
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repercussions i mean okay it just sounds like you're you're already invested in that whole yeah
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i just think i don't know i just think some like is there's a bit of an unfair vision on it sometimes
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but i understand why do you know what i mean but it's like when you're arguing it's kind of like do i
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want a thief in my house no right yeah does it matter if you know maybe maybe that maybe that thief
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stole five dollars worth of stuff and that thief stole 50 but they're still both thieves and that's
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what i'm saying with the guys the way the guys think about promiscuity okay maybe maybe the
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regular girl's worse that's not in sex work but then guys don't want either can i just say though
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if you're speaking about regular girls to do it they're not actually putting out there so you
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wouldn't know what they're doing anyway and also saying that girls that are in sex work might not
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do it as regular as a regular girl but maybe they haven't actually been given the opportunity if
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they're trying to make money off it so who like sex workers if you're saying that they do it um
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less than a regular girl oh i don't i don't say that to your point you said like sometimes regular
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girls do it more than a sex worker but maybe the sex workers not meeting anyone who's actually willing
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to pay so they haven't presented the opportunity if you if you move around we know it goes from group
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after group boys know boys boys know that like if you think that you're private and you've had sex with
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say 20 boys and they don't know each other they know men know 100 we call that the whole facts
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as many of you know i was just banned on tick tock and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this
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