JustPearlyThings - October 17, 2023


Pearl Proves Feminism Is Toxic


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00:00:00.000 is feminism topic or is feminism toxic so question for the panel do you think that
00:00:07.960 feminism is toxic yes or no and tell me why starting here and then go around yes feminism
00:00:13.160 is absolutely toxic it's completely terrible for society it's destroying men it's destroying women
00:00:18.340 i think it's probably one of the worst things to happen to male and female relationships so
00:00:22.460 yeah absolutely agree i don't know i think i'm 50 50 i think it's good for us females to
00:00:31.680 i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't want to say something and then
00:00:37.580 people don't agree with me but it's okay you're gonna say something it's okay
00:00:43.200 we allow all disagreements on the shelf so there are no wrong answers
00:00:47.840 um i would just say it's 50 50 okay but it's 60 40 if you had to pick one side
00:00:56.400 um
00:00:58.060 yeah okay yeah you do think it's toxic yeah it's very toxic okay what do you think yeah i think
00:01:08.360 it's toxic i think it breaks down the family units and i also think it impacts society in a negative
00:01:14.560 way as a uh as a man identifying as a woman to compete in women's sports i think it's great
00:01:21.880 uh it has really increased my athletic performance relative to my competition
00:01:26.760 uh and i'm looking forward to being called stunning and brave um but in all seriousness i mean
00:01:33.360 any ideology probably starts out at some point with some positive attributes that are necessary for
00:01:41.320 for society right um but like every ideology eventually becomes weaponized and i think right
00:01:49.720 now we're living in a world where you ladies are acknowledging it as well which is very strange
00:01:53.920 for a woman to say that like oh you know feminism's toxic because you're a woman you should be like
00:01:57.880 yay feminism right so i think we're starting to come around as a society and realizing that there's a
00:02:02.400 there's a certain ideological weaponization where feminism went from empowering women to just
00:02:09.040 shitting on men and that's uh that's a bad line okay so when do you think feminism is ever empowering
00:02:16.400 for women that's a great question do you want to go like kind of historical argument or where are we
00:02:20.760 going for this yeah yeah when uh okay so so there's there's like kind of an interesting
00:02:30.400 there's obviously this is such a granular argument like there's so many flavors to this it's not like an
00:02:36.560 outright you know you know and i don't want to be like sounding like oh i'm not going to take a
00:02:39.560 position like i have a position right like for example um my mom is a computer scientist as an
00:02:46.080 example right like she's very intelligent she went all the way through the school got her master's and
00:02:50.180 phd whatever she got um and so she she performed she just retired like this month but she performed
00:02:55.520 at a very high level a very male dominated industry and frankly she's not a very feminine woman so
00:03:00.720 like the opportunity for her to go all the way in her education which was in math and computer science and
00:03:05.220 then implement that for her career was very beneficial for her like she would not fit the
00:03:08.500 mold of a woman that is in a in a let's say more controlled society where that might have not been
00:03:13.240 an option right because she's not a good housewife she was a terrible wife but then what does that
00:03:17.620 have to do with feminism what does her success have to do with feminism so so you're i understand what
00:03:22.400 you're saying so when you go back to like for example one of the stand countries right now where
00:03:25.740 maybe 15 20 years ago women were not allowed to get an education above let's say the fourth or fifth
00:03:29.900 grade level and you might say fine but i would say okay at that point you need it to push it a little bit
00:03:34.500 further right like if you have to tell girls you're a writer right we had a conversation before we
00:03:38.780 started you're smart like you know things you quoted aldous huxley i'm like ah she reads yeah but
00:03:43.680 what's that got to do with feminism when you put that down to somebody's individual merits right
00:03:47.820 personal well the the original the original premise behind feminism now we're going back a couple
00:03:51.900 hundred years here was that women were were allowed to substantially be educated as much as men
00:03:55.980 because certain religions let's say forbade women from getting a higher level education like they were
00:04:01.100 not even allowed to read under most sort of the archaic religions right so there was a time there
00:04:05.860 was a time where and that was you know a while ago there was a time where you would not have been
00:04:09.960 able to have been an author and you think of what time period was that because i as far as i know in
00:04:14.720 the u.s like well we've at least in the 1600s there was girls getting who's t.s elliot who's t.s elliot is
00:04:22.240 that is that the author that's actually a woman but pretended to be a man because she couldn't get her books
00:04:25.920 published as a woman so there was a very long-standing history that women could not publish
00:04:29.960 books so like look i'm not like 17 i know at least 17 1800s like women were published um
00:04:36.420 like they could write they were in like the wall street journal like the whatever the there's a
00:04:41.440 couple publications that were still around no no look look look let me like saying this like like
00:04:45.760 this is we can we can we can take this even further to the racism argument it's like okay there's
00:04:51.280 there's nobody wants slavery it's horrible and it's like the most absurdly horrible thing that's
00:04:55.720 ever happened and it's happened to you know in different societies and then you go to like all
00:04:59.680 the way to the other side an affirmative action where it's like well i don't really want that either
00:05:03.300 even though it's supposedly like anti-discriminatory becomes discrimination right so feminism like at
00:05:09.480 its core it didn't start out with nefarious intent completely disagree if you go back to so for
00:05:14.760 example the 1848 uh seneca falls convention you'll find that actually right from the get-go feminism is
00:05:20.440 always very very misandric very very all for just a very small cabal of the titanic 70 of women
00:05:28.780 survived 80 uh 25 of men survived yeah and the feminists were like if a woman built the ship we would
00:05:39.920 have did it better wait they don't care feminism is never it's a big misconception because a lot of
00:05:45.860 people think feminism was once good but actually this is a lie and if you look at historically
00:05:49.880 feminism from day one has always been i agree with you that ideologically was it was misandric it was
00:05:55.440 a karl marx kind of a situation i know 100 it started at no 100 but but here's can i ask you a question
00:06:01.280 i mean it's and i can't believe i'm taking the side by the way but it's like would you be okay if if
00:06:06.880 women were not allowed to go past the third grade education in the society in which you live
00:06:10.400 well the thing is yes look at i'm telling you college makes you dumber
00:06:14.660 i'm not drawing the line of college we can get there i'm sorry i'm starting third grade
00:06:21.560 the thing is is that the misconception here is that the main inequalities in society were actually more
00:06:27.020 to do with class rather than gender because for example a wealthy woman would have had much more
00:06:32.060 social privilege than a poor man and women actually could be educated for example during medieval
00:06:36.860 england a lot of women worked in nursing they worked in teaching so this idea that somehow women
00:06:42.660 couldn't be educated i mean if you just look at the west for example this isn't true actually
00:06:46.460 education was more reserved for the upper classes and it's always been that way even things like
00:06:51.640 property ownership as well it's not really the feminists has made it as a men versus women thing
00:06:56.120 but it was never the case it was more about class so i mean i think you're referring to because i know
00:07:01.640 you're referring to specifically to like religious countries i'm not going to comment on that but
00:07:04.940 right now but if we just look at say the west or england education opportunities have always been
00:07:10.000 there but they've been referred they've been um what wrong word reserved for the wealthier classes
00:07:14.640 and the feminist lie effectively is that oh this was about men oppressing women but it wasn't it was
00:07:20.140 more about the upper classes were the ones who held more of the privilege in society so you know and
00:07:26.020 women women you know they did things like sewing needlework music things like nursing a lot of women
00:07:31.620 worked as governesses so it is a big misconception that women couldn't work or that women couldn't
00:07:36.980 have careers or that women weren't educated a lot of these are very big misconceptions
00:07:40.380 no but what they do is they rewrote the history you probably know yes they rewrote they went back
00:07:46.700 all the marxists went back and basically said we want to look at history from the viewpoint of the
00:07:51.060 oppressed yeah so they literally went back in the history books and rewrote the history yes they did
00:07:55.980 from the vantage point of an oppressed woman even though the women of the writings at the time
00:08:00.080 not oppressed well they were really rich like how did feminism like overtake as a movement it was
00:08:06.460 female-led oh yeah so it's like how did they have the voice if they had no voice or education it's
00:08:10.680 very erotic these were the most privileged women in society if you look at especially the old school
00:08:15.160 first-wave feminist people like elizabeth katie stanton yeah isn't that the one that like divorced
00:08:19.540 her husband took all his money they were terrible all of them they were always right from the get
00:08:24.400 there was a very mean-spirited very antagonistic movement and if the problem is is that a lot of
00:08:29.500 people don't understand this it's like it's nobody's fault it's the fact but for example
00:08:33.280 people will say oh look at the suffragettes but they put all the women's studies professors in the
00:08:39.040 school yes and then they re they all they even said this themselves they're gonna rewrite our history
00:08:45.400 and then teach it in the schools to brainwash the kids and get rid of religion they did the same
00:08:51.400 thing in the church so they went into the christian churches the catholic churches why do you think
00:08:56.220 there's all those gay priests right it was because they literally sent 11 000 priests into the church
00:09:02.000 because they realized that people listen to the church and yeah it's it's rabbit hole when you get
00:09:08.460 into it but the crazy thing is they literally said we want to infiltrate these institutions because we
00:09:15.220 know people listen to them i mean a lot of these priests rules are pedophile a hundred no no they
00:09:20.300 are though i'm serious but they sent 11 000 they funded the seminaries to again to reteach education
00:09:26.400 from a more like the christian doctrine from a more liberal point of view yeah it's already liberal
00:09:31.920 it's marxist but well yeah yeah yeah marxist i think american liberalism it's a shame isn't it because
00:09:37.340 actually classical english liberalism is completely anti-marxist it's a really terrible thing how like
00:09:42.760 in america like your version of liberalism is what we would call like yeah yeah yeah but it's not your
00:09:48.300 fault as well like that's another like you know language barrier or whatever