JustPearlyThings - June 24, 2023


Personal Trainer Breaks Down Why Fat Shaming Is Necessary


Episode Stats

Length

7 minutes

Words per Minute

213.14116

Word Count

1,676

Sentence Count

127

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Yeah, but talking about body positivity, does it help?
00:00:07.100 Does talking to you nice help?
00:00:09.180 Yeah, I think it does.
00:00:10.200 I think telling people to be kind to themselves goes a long way.
00:00:13.500 I think it just makes you comfortable to do the same thing.
00:00:16.460 No, but at the same time, I feel like it depends on what type of person you are.
00:00:20.980 So depending on what makes you tick, you know what I'm saying?
00:00:23.980 So some people might respond to body shaming, whereas other people might respond to a different type of method, you know?
00:00:31.800 Wait, if it helped, wouldn't you see most of these influencers lose weight?
00:00:35.740 I mean, I am an influencer and I'm actively trying to lose weight and I've documented it on my platform.
00:00:41.140 And I've said how I've struggled with it.
00:00:42.620 Like, I find it really difficult.
00:00:44.340 What part of it do you struggle with, though?
00:00:46.400 For me, like, I have a lot of problems related to when I used to be quite thin.
00:00:51.440 I was very, very unhealthy and it meant that when I was thin, I went to a...
00:00:57.940 So when I was, like, doing acting and stuff, I was in a theatre company where they would write all our weights on the wall
00:01:02.260 and it was always, like, the goal not to be the biggest person and everyone was skinny, right?
00:01:05.920 So I have a lot of problems around that, around weight, around weighing myself obsessively.
00:01:11.380 And because of that, like, I would just restrict and binge and restrict and binge and restrict and binge,
00:01:16.580 which at the time, I was making myself sick, so I stayed skinny.
00:01:20.200 And then when I stopped throwing up, I got very fat because I didn't break the patterns,
00:01:25.140 but I still had the eating disorder of the restrict and binge and restrict and binge, restrict and binge.
00:01:29.060 So when I stopped throwing up, I just gained all the weight.
00:01:31.500 And that's still something I struggle with.
00:01:33.280 Like, I restrict and restrict and restrict and I feel very in control when I restrict.
00:01:37.480 But then I will binge when I've had a vulnerable moment or I've had an argument with my boyfriend
00:01:41.380 or something in my life has gone wrong.
00:01:43.820 And I struggle with that.
00:01:44.780 But I think the point is that across the board, I don't see plus-size influencers
00:01:49.080 that have built their brand on body positivity losing weight across the board.
00:01:53.600 If anything, I see them get fatter and I see them drop dead in their, like, mid-30s to 40s.
00:01:58.240 Because they're getting rewarded.
00:01:59.140 You're getting paid to be a plus-size model.
00:02:00.940 Like, in your example, why would you want to lose weight if you're getting paid to be in a plus-size ad?
00:02:05.920 Yeah, but I know what, for me, if I'm plus-size, I'm plus-size.
00:02:11.760 And, sorry, what was I going to say?
00:02:15.200 Sorry, it just went out of my mouth.
00:02:18.740 I'm sorry, guys.
00:02:19.080 I would say that there's also a difference between, like, I'm a plus-size model.
00:02:22.260 If you lose weight, are you still going to get plus-size jobs?
00:02:25.480 So in terms of modeling, yes.
00:02:28.500 But right now, I would say I'm at a weight where I feel unhealthy.
00:02:32.460 I can still be, like, overweight and feel healthy.
00:02:36.480 I could still qualify for plus-size jobs based on my height and things like that.
00:02:39.900 Because I'm shorter and curvier, I'll still qualify.
00:02:42.640 And I still worked in plus-size when I was technically, like, a healthy weight on paper.
00:02:46.560 I was still plus-size because I had big boobs, a big bum, and I was short.
00:02:50.920 And that's sort of what qualifies you for plus-size modeling.
00:02:52.740 So I did still work in that then.
00:02:54.480 I've changed agencies when I've gained a lost weight.
00:02:56.780 If you were 120 pounds, would you still get plus-size modeling gigs?
00:03:00.400 No, but I'd still be an influencer.
00:03:01.840 And I'd still be very likable.
00:03:03.160 And I think people would still follow my content.
00:03:04.720 We're just asking about the plus-size.
00:03:06.240 It's a hustle.
00:03:07.560 You're likable.
00:03:08.540 You can do well.
00:03:09.020 But you don't just build yourself just on...
00:03:10.560 Nobody follows someone just because they're like,
00:03:11.960 Oh, this is a fat person.
00:03:12.820 I'm going to follow them.
00:03:13.660 Like, nobody's following Tess Holliday just because...
00:03:15.840 I mean, apart from the fetish people.
00:03:17.200 She wouldn't be famous if she wasn't fat.
00:03:19.780 But you're an influencer, right?
00:03:22.420 So people follow you because...
00:03:24.880 Why?
00:03:27.220 I agree.
00:03:27.780 I would say that being overweight, being obese, being fat is oftentimes a hustle.
00:03:32.760 It can be a brand.
00:03:34.740 It can be your identity, just like being a PT can be your identity.
00:03:37.980 One is better than the other.
00:03:40.680 It's better for the individual at the end of the day.
00:03:43.820 In this economy, they both make money, unfortunately.
00:03:47.100 And I would agree that being obese is oftentimes incentivized,
00:03:50.920 especially if we're talking about being an influencer.
00:03:54.280 Like the video that you mentioned, Pearl,
00:03:56.780 about someone who is plus-sized doing a what I eat in a day.
00:04:00.720 It would be very easy for a person like that to secure a brand deal
00:04:03.960 and start advertising, I don't know, like corn, vegetarian, sausages.
00:04:08.260 And they add that in and say,
00:04:09.620 It's vegetarian, so it's fine.
00:04:11.600 It's healthy.
00:04:12.140 I'm not eating meat.
00:04:13.220 But then they still eat like a six pack of donuts in a day.
00:04:16.120 So I think what we're talking about,
00:04:18.580 if we're talking about obesity being incentivized economically,
00:04:23.080 we're then talking about essentially hustle culture.
00:04:26.900 And it is a hustle.
00:04:28.040 It's just that opening for a company to make more money,
00:04:30.220 you know, it's simple as that.
00:04:31.460 I would actually argue with that on saying,
00:04:34.580 when I made a video saying I was going to lose weight
00:04:36.720 and it went viral because I made a video that was embarrassing
00:04:39.660 and I said I couldn't get down a slide
00:04:41.080 and I was really embarrassed and I wanted to lose weight.
00:04:42.640 And that did really well in the algorithm.
00:04:44.340 And I got so many sponsorships and companies emailing me
00:04:48.780 with their weight loss products because that is a huge industry.
00:04:52.380 And I think that's far bigger than any body positivity
00:04:54.180 or an industry like the weight loss industry is a huge thing.
00:04:57.140 I instantly had people being like,
00:04:58.580 Take our lollies, take our diet drinks, take this, take that.
00:05:01.040 Show it on your TikTok.
00:05:02.200 Yeah, I think weight loss is a bigger industry
00:05:03.960 than people being like, I'm plus size and it's cool.
00:05:07.640 Would you rather take weight loss products
00:05:10.460 or stay as a plus size model?
00:05:11.960 I mean, I don't think the weight loss products work.
00:05:14.800 I don't think those lollipops and...
00:05:16.400 I mean, calorie deficit works.
00:05:17.960 Yeah, 100%.
00:05:18.760 Calorie deficit works.
00:05:19.740 It sucks, but it works.
00:05:22.440 But again, I've said I struggle.
00:05:24.360 If I could press a button and just be a healthy weight
00:05:26.060 and not struggle.
00:05:27.400 Because you could say both, you know,
00:05:27.900 if one is both detrimental to you,
00:05:31.140 which would you rather?
00:05:32.300 Not eating and maybe having the products
00:05:35.360 that are forcing you into a calorie deficit
00:05:37.340 or staying at an unhealthy weight,
00:05:39.260 what are you taking?
00:05:39.840 I mean, I've already said, like,
00:05:41.500 if I could press a button and be a healthy weight
00:05:42.900 and have a healthy relationship with food,
00:05:44.100 I would press it.
00:05:44.820 But that's just not the reality for me
00:05:46.140 and a lot of other people.
00:05:47.420 And for me, it's been a grind.
00:05:48.680 And like, I have been losing weight,
00:05:49.900 but it's hard.
00:05:51.220 What's the solution?
00:05:51.980 Like, what's the...
00:05:53.060 Okay, you say it's a grind for a lot of people,
00:05:54.960 but what is the actual solution of losing weight?
00:05:57.400 For me, I think the solution is telling people
00:05:59.660 to like themselves,
00:06:00.940 to do the best thing for themselves
00:06:02.620 and not hate themselves in the process.
00:06:04.140 For me, it's eating healthy and being active.
00:06:07.120 And like I said,
00:06:09.140 it's about body positivity
00:06:10.360 is literally accepting the way you are.
00:06:12.740 If I'm plus size, I'm plus size.
00:06:14.400 And that's why I tell people,
00:06:16.820 accept the way you look, be happy.
00:06:18.880 You are the way you are
00:06:20.260 and you should really embrace the way you are
00:06:23.020 because when you're not happy with yourself,
00:06:25.420 you don't...
00:06:26.200 It affects you in work.
00:06:27.600 You don't have no confidence,
00:06:29.040 no self-esteem.
00:06:30.000 And yeah, you should be able to do anything.
00:06:33.120 Just be...
00:06:33.680 And body positivity,
00:06:34.960 again, I'm going to say it again,
00:06:36.480 it's literally accepting the way you look.
00:06:39.040 Let me get a little bit deep with it.
00:06:40.260 If someone was to die from obesity,
00:06:41.920 what would you tell that person?
00:06:44.480 Honestly, I'd say,
00:06:46.020 do you know what?
00:06:46.760 You should have eaten healthy
00:06:47.900 and you should have exercised.
00:06:49.020 You need the risk of being big.
00:06:49.600 So why are we not telling the person
00:06:50.920 that's going to be...
00:06:51.600 I'm not telling anyone to be big.
00:06:53.200 But I think the point is like
00:06:54.580 the most common theme I've heard
00:06:56.240 is just accept how you are.
00:06:58.260 Okay, for example...
00:06:59.240 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:06:59.820 So this is the most common thing I've heard.
00:07:01.760 Would you guys agree?
00:07:02.400 Just accept how you are.
00:07:03.840 Like to like yourself,
00:07:05.160 to like the way you...
00:07:06.140 To like yourself,
00:07:07.440 accept how you are.
00:07:08.880 Don't hate yourself for being fat.
00:07:11.240 Pearl, bear in mind,
00:07:12.780 we're not trying to promote...
00:07:13.880 Well, I'm not trying to promote
00:07:15.000 unhealthiness.
00:07:16.080 If you watch my TikToks
00:07:17.580 and my Instagram,
00:07:18.200 I'm dancing.
00:07:19.340 I'm active.
00:07:20.380 Even on my stories,
00:07:21.660 I'm always promoting good.
00:07:22.680 If you're overweight
00:07:23.580 and you accept that,
00:07:25.640 then you're accepting
00:07:27.320 like a higher risk for diabetes.
00:07:29.600 You're accepting a higher risk
00:07:31.200 for early death.
00:07:32.260 You're accepting a higher risk
00:07:33.820 for a heart attack.
00:07:34.380 I'm going to explain something.
00:07:35.820 Like you have all these health risks.
00:07:37.300 So for example...
00:07:38.100 And the thing is like...
00:07:39.600 I want to explain.
00:07:40.620 Wait, wait, wait.
00:07:41.340 And the thing is like
00:07:42.900 your families
00:07:43.520 are the ones
00:07:44.320 that are going to have
00:07:44.820 to take care of you
00:07:45.820 if you can't take care of yourself
00:07:47.300 if you get too big.
00:07:49.060 So then it's not just your problem.
00:07:51.040 It becomes other...