JustPearlyThings - August 09, 2023


She Got SCHOOLED


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Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

216.02063

Word Count

9,970

Sentence Count

1,233


Summary

In this episode, the brother and sister duo of the talk about baby mamas and why they should or shouldn t be a baby mama. Do you think men are settling for a baby mom?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Coming up next.
00:00:00.920 Do you think men wake up thinking they want baby mamas as their long-term partner?
00:00:05.700 No, I hear what you're saying.
00:00:06.440 They don't want that.
00:00:07.240 So what I'm trying to say to you is, when you're a baby mother, you lose points.
00:00:11.940 So we are settling for baby mamas.
00:00:13.800 If a man has a baby mama, he's settling.
00:00:16.300 The problem is, as women, you don't understand what men want.
00:00:20.660 You think you understand what men want.
00:00:22.900 And the reason why you think you understand what men want is because you live within an echo chamber of your girlfriend.
00:00:28.480 True.
00:00:28.700 You have not come out of that echo chamber and asked men, what do you want from us as women?
00:00:35.820 So hang on.
00:00:36.860 When women do, you say, oh, that's misogynistic.
00:00:41.800 No, that's just what men want.
00:00:44.620 Sorry, go on, bro.
00:00:45.540 Yeah, I was thinking it's definitely a case for you single people.
00:00:49.120 But let me not say it like that.
00:00:52.820 Do you know, I'm brought back to, I've been to like three, four weddings this year.
00:00:57.060 Oh, what?
00:00:57.360 One of them was my dad.
00:00:59.100 He got married in Cyprus.
00:01:00.420 Oh, that's nice.
00:01:01.540 Big up daddy.
00:01:02.640 One of them was my Uncle Eric.
00:01:04.000 Now, my Uncle Eric, sadly, he's had some health issues.
00:01:06.420 But his partner, despite his sickness, always loved him.
00:01:13.740 So they were high school sweethearts.
00:01:14.620 That's the whole point of it being in a relationship.
00:01:16.200 They ended up breaking up in their 20s.
00:01:18.820 And then they went there for almost 30 years not dating each other, not seeing each other, not speaking to each other.
00:01:24.740 She had a picture of him on her dashboard.
00:01:28.040 She used to just say, oh, that's my man, but not tell people who it was, you know.
00:01:31.340 And now they're married, happily married, beautiful couple.
00:01:35.440 And people wish they were together for years, you know.
00:01:39.060 See, that's different, though, because they were together at some point and they separated.
00:01:43.500 They had different views in life.
00:01:44.880 They wanted to do different things.
00:01:46.240 They didn't click.
00:01:47.160 But they came back years after.
00:01:48.740 That's different.
00:01:49.280 Wait, why did they break up?
00:01:51.540 She wanted something different at the time.
00:01:54.220 Yeah, see what I'm saying?
00:01:55.180 She probably wanted something different.
00:01:56.480 He wanted something different.
00:01:57.700 But then they came back.
00:01:58.800 But as a woman, if she curved him and he tried for 30 years, after 30 years, and then she gave him that chance, then you know it's not actually because she likes him.
00:02:10.140 I don't know.
00:02:10.960 That sounds sketch to me.
00:02:12.520 I'm like, the streets were calling.
00:02:15.320 If she broke up with him, girls don't leave and hope to do worse or the same.
00:02:23.800 Let's not say anything, they're married.
00:02:25.580 I'm just saying.
00:02:26.480 They don't really try to do better at quitting.
00:02:28.440 But, Pearl, bear in mind, Angela Simmons is now a widowed single mom and she's 35.
00:02:35.100 Yeah.
00:02:35.820 You can marry her.
00:02:36.440 So, hang on.
00:02:37.000 But Yo Gotti is a 41-year-old man who's kind of doing well for himself.
00:02:41.160 How many babies?
00:02:41.820 So, I don't know how many.
00:02:44.280 But what I'm saying is, as a 41-year-old man, why is a 35-year-old's widowed baby mama your first pick?
00:02:52.320 There's nothing wrong with being a baby mama.
00:02:53.840 It's love, baby.
00:02:54.500 It's love, baby.
00:02:55.000 Wait, wait, wait.
00:02:57.460 Shout out to the baby mamas.
00:02:59.820 Shout out to yo.
00:03:00.460 Wait, wait, wait.
00:03:00.880 Who said there's nothing wrong with being a baby?
00:03:02.360 There's nothing wrong with being a baby mama.
00:03:03.820 I think you could be a baby mom.
00:03:05.380 It's love, bro.
00:03:05.500 No, it's not long.
00:03:07.540 You don't understand men.
00:03:09.080 Well, I get that as well.
00:03:09.840 I don't have a kid, so I can't really say.
00:03:12.120 Yeah, exactly.
00:03:12.460 That's the point.
00:03:12.840 But what I'm saying, there's nothing wrong because you could have a kid.
00:03:15.840 So, you're telling me a woman that has a child shouldn't have a chance to.
00:03:20.000 No, a woman that has a child, I'm not saying that she doesn't get loved.
00:03:24.660 She's less valued?
00:03:25.800 Yes.
00:03:26.160 She is less valued, of course.
00:03:27.980 I'll tell you why.
00:03:29.060 I'm a man, right?
00:03:30.060 I'm a man.
00:03:30.540 She comes with something else.
00:03:32.660 Men value purity, yeah?
00:03:35.760 And they value youth.
00:03:37.440 This is what I want to say.
00:03:38.480 That's what men value, right?
00:03:40.900 Let's be real.
00:03:41.340 So, you've come to me with a man, with a child that is not mine, right?
00:03:46.680 Yeah.
00:03:46.880 When men want to get with a woman, they want to create their child with a woman, right?
00:03:51.160 That's generally what they want to do.
00:03:51.860 But then you're looking at the wrong guy.
00:03:53.420 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:03:54.980 You don't understand the mind of men.
00:03:56.260 That's what I'm trying to make.
00:03:57.120 No, I understand.
00:03:58.100 No, but I'm not.
00:03:58.500 Because there is men that would be like, cut it.
00:04:00.640 Wait, wait, wait.
00:04:02.200 Men want to create their legacy with a woman, okay?
00:04:06.340 What you're bringing to me is another man's legacy.
00:04:09.140 But guys have fair baby mums.
00:04:10.680 Yes.
00:04:11.060 I hear that.
00:04:11.900 And it's okay.
00:04:12.420 That would have been their first intention.
00:04:14.060 So, that goes back to it's the guys you deal with.
00:04:17.620 Because, again, even historically, a good portion of men didn't even reproduce.
00:04:22.880 40% of men didn't even reproduce historically.
00:04:25.460 It's a very small percentage of men that have multiple baby mums.
00:04:28.500 That's not common.
00:04:29.580 That's common with the men that you know.
00:04:31.720 No, it's common nowadays.
00:04:33.200 I think it's more common nowadays.
00:04:34.720 Back in the day, it's not common nowadays.
00:04:39.240 It's common with the men that you guys deal with because those are in the top 20% of men.
00:04:43.200 I'm not going to lie.
00:04:43.760 I'm not dealing with no one's baby that I don't know.
00:04:45.620 That's not.
00:04:46.000 Okay, so.
00:04:46.860 Sorry, go on, go on, go on.
00:04:48.120 So, basically, earlier you were saying, you were asking them about them being with a virgin, right?
00:04:56.100 Like, most women don't want to be with a virgin, right?
00:04:59.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:05:00.940 So, go on.
00:05:01.780 For us, would you rather be with someone who slept with five guys or would you be...
00:05:08.020 As a man.
00:05:08.860 Yeah, as a man.
00:05:09.520 As a man, we prefer to teach a woman.
00:05:10.940 That's easy.
00:05:11.120 That is such an easy answer.
00:05:12.400 You see?
00:05:12.600 Hang on, wait, wait.
00:05:13.840 You're a woman.
00:05:14.540 We're talking about men.
00:05:15.340 I know, but it's easy.
00:05:16.560 Let the men speak.
00:05:17.000 I already know what you're going to say.
00:05:18.100 You're going to choose the virgin.
00:05:19.260 Let the men speak.
00:05:20.100 Let the men speak.
00:05:20.640 Calm down.
00:05:21.100 No, let the men speak first.
00:05:22.200 Let the men speak.
00:05:22.860 As men, we prefer to teach a woman than a woman to be out there in the streets and she's come to you.
00:05:30.120 Exactly.
00:05:30.760 That's what we prefer generally.
00:05:32.960 Women prefer a man to know what he's doing, which means he's already been in the streets, right?
00:05:39.500 And then he can teach you.
00:05:42.400 You see?
00:05:43.180 I have a question for the men.
00:05:44.540 How many...
00:05:45.100 Okay, if a girl's a 10, how many points does it subtract a kid?
00:05:48.780 So, if she's a 10 with no kids, how many points does a kid subtract?
00:05:52.240 What is she now?
00:05:53.180 Five is out.
00:05:53.800 So, she becomes a five?
00:05:54.980 Five is out.
00:05:55.560 Okay, Sarah, what about you?
00:05:57.340 A 10.
00:05:58.240 Listen, from experience...
00:05:59.880 For each kid, how much does it subtract?
00:06:01.620 From experience, I've been with a woman who's had a child.
00:06:04.660 Uh-huh.
00:06:05.460 And you could be a 10.
00:06:06.880 You go down to at least a six.
00:06:08.660 Okay, what about you?
00:06:09.520 So, four points.
00:06:10.200 What about you?
00:06:11.240 For me, it would depend on whether she'd allow me to parent as well.
00:06:15.080 And it depends on, like, the actual kid.
00:06:16.720 Okay, okay, okay.
00:06:18.240 Bro, if you don't want someone's son to tell you, you're not my dad.
00:06:21.140 Yeah, exactly.
00:06:21.780 You don't want to deal with that, bro.
00:06:23.100 Okay, okay, okay.
00:06:23.720 I'm just asking...
00:06:24.720 Maybe one wants you, though, please.
00:06:25.920 That's not what the bear is.
00:06:26.900 That's not what the bear is.
00:06:26.920 That's not what the bear is.
00:06:27.160 Maybe one wants you.
00:06:27.820 Maybe one wants you.
00:06:28.420 I'm just asking, how many?
00:06:31.500 10 minus how much?
00:06:33.600 It would depend on the relationship.
00:06:36.080 I'd only say one point.
00:06:37.860 One point?
00:06:38.440 No, it's not one point.
00:06:39.180 See?
00:06:39.400 So, everyone's different.
00:06:40.600 Hang on.
00:06:41.340 Hang on.
00:06:41.520 Wait, wait.
00:06:42.120 Do you know why you say one point?
00:06:43.200 Because you haven't experienced it.
00:06:44.140 Yeah, I will also say, though, the reason why both of you are saying what you're saying
00:06:47.980 is because you are with women who didn't make space for you.
00:06:50.800 I'm not with a woman.
00:06:51.720 I'm not with a woman.
00:06:52.080 But at the time, you're with women who didn't make the space for you to be a parent in that
00:06:56.420 situation as well.
00:06:57.280 And because you weren't in that situation, it was terrible because you had no respect,
00:07:02.520 which is what we've been speaking about.
00:07:03.660 You want to be in a relationship with respect.
00:07:04.640 But, bro.
00:07:05.260 But can I say something?
00:07:06.200 But, bro, hang on.
00:07:06.760 You can't be a parent to someone else's child.
00:07:09.100 I'm not going to lie.
00:07:09.960 You can't.
00:07:10.100 But, bro, let me tell you something.
00:07:12.120 Someone else's child.
00:07:12.760 A woman who has...
00:07:14.160 That's not true.
00:07:15.040 Calm down.
00:07:16.180 A woman who has a child will let you know it's their child.
00:07:21.180 Yeah.
00:07:21.560 That's my point.
00:07:22.480 They will not let you...
00:07:23.500 You shouldn't be a woman who doesn't.
00:07:24.280 I'm saying a woman who has a child who is theirs will, whether consciously or subconsciously,
00:07:31.620 let you know that's not your child.
00:07:34.160 I feel like if you date a single mother...
00:07:36.220 You naturally know that.
00:07:36.320 I feel like if you date a single mother as a guy, you should be able to cheat.
00:07:39.580 That's how I feel.
00:07:40.400 What?
00:07:40.820 Oh, wow.
00:07:41.520 No, no.
00:07:42.220 Hear me out.
00:07:42.720 Hear me out.
00:07:42.980 Hear me out.
00:07:43.580 Hear me out.
00:07:44.040 Hear me out.
00:07:44.340 Hear me out.
00:07:44.680 I'll tell you why.
00:07:46.420 I'll tell you why.
00:07:47.800 Jaina, I'll tell you why.
00:07:49.160 I'll tell you why.
00:07:49.820 Because his mating strategy is, if we go back to our biology, right?
00:07:55.440 It's to screw as many people as possible and ensure paternity.
00:07:59.260 Our mating strategy is to get resources from a guy.
00:08:02.580 So you get your mating strategy and commitment from the guy.
00:08:05.720 So you get your mating strategy fulfilled and he has to deal with someone else's kid?
00:08:10.180 Nah.
00:08:10.380 Like you cheated on him by not waiting for marriage to have a child.
00:08:14.400 How did she know he was going to come along though?
00:08:16.140 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, so, so, so, so I, I think you, you basically
00:08:21.760 cheated on him by not giving him purity and youth.
00:08:25.200 You can't give him purity.
00:08:26.520 You can't give him purity.
00:08:28.100 Wait, wait, wait.
00:08:29.000 You can't give him purity.
00:08:30.380 If you have a child, you can't.
00:08:32.280 That's true.
00:08:32.620 And so it's like, if you don't offer that, why would you expect monogamy?
00:08:36.980 I get what you're saying, but it's a different time now, you know?
00:08:39.900 Like you're talking, you're talking from back in the day.
00:08:42.700 No, it's not a different time.
00:08:43.820 No, but it is.
00:08:44.720 Hang on, let me take it.
00:08:45.320 Let's be real.
00:08:45.820 No, we got birth control.
00:08:47.620 Do you know how many people have kids nowadays?
00:08:49.800 Do you know how many people have kids at 16?
00:08:51.960 Ladies, ladies, let me try and give you some game.
00:08:54.140 Yeah?
00:08:54.960 Seriously, you don't understand the minds of men.
00:08:57.540 No, no, they don't.
00:08:58.560 They don't.
00:08:59.120 They don't.
00:08:59.720 Really don't understand.
00:09:01.640 You're sitting with one, two, three.
00:09:03.680 I do.
00:09:04.360 Blessing over there.
00:09:05.320 Four men.
00:09:06.180 We're trying to give you the minds of men.
00:09:08.240 You are not listening to us.
00:09:10.140 You haven't let us speak too much.
00:09:11.540 Wait, wait, wait, but wait, but wait.
00:09:13.080 No, but wait, but wait, but wait.
00:09:15.060 I'm saying, men value purity and we value youth.
00:09:20.800 Can I just say it?
00:09:21.800 Wait!
00:09:22.720 For fuck's sake!
00:09:24.380 Like, let me fucking speak.
00:09:26.300 Men value purity and youth, okay?
00:09:29.540 You can, amongst your girls, have whatever conversation that you want to have amongst your girls.
00:09:34.760 Women live in an echo chamber amongst their women all the time.
00:09:37.500 Oh, yeah, girl, he's this.
00:09:38.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:09:39.420 You can do that all the time.
00:09:41.140 When you come out of that echo chamber and you speak to men.
00:09:43.980 There's reality.
00:09:44.860 There you get the reality.
00:09:46.220 There's reality.
00:09:46.540 And that's, wait, you can put your hand down.
00:09:49.320 What I'm trying to say to you is, right, when, one of the main problems in this society is women do not listen to when men speak.
00:09:57.540 And when men do speak, right, they call them misogynistic, they call them all kinds of names that they want to call them, right?
00:10:04.260 But what you're not listening to is men are speaking and they're telling their truth.
00:10:10.080 This is man's truth.
00:10:11.720 If you come to me with a child, two children, three children, you are not our first choice.
00:10:19.100 I'm telling you, you don't have children, so it's cool.
00:10:21.560 No man wakes up as, if you talk about Yo Gotti, he's 41 years old.
00:10:27.080 He did not wake up in the morning thinking, you know, the woman that I actually want to have for my long-term partner is a widowed baby mama.
00:10:36.660 Wait, is a widowed baby mama?
00:10:38.560 That's my first choice.
00:10:40.160 But it was though.
00:10:40.920 Wait, it was though.
00:10:42.080 Let's be realistic.
00:10:43.080 But I'm saying, oh my God, seriously.
00:10:47.300 Generally, men, that is not their first choice.
00:10:49.760 No.
00:10:50.520 It's not their first choice.
00:10:51.240 Do you think men wake up thinking they want baby mamas as their long-term partner?
00:10:56.480 No, I hate what you're saying.
00:10:57.300 They don't want that.
00:10:58.100 So what I'm trying to say to you is, when you're a baby mother, you lose points.
00:11:02.800 So we are settling for baby mamas.
00:11:04.660 If a man has a baby mama, he's settling.
00:11:07.260 Your points are drastic.
00:11:09.320 I think a baby mama's left.
00:11:10.320 They don't need to be that drastic.
00:11:11.220 I'm more than me.
00:11:13.540 I've had a stepdad, right?
00:11:14.680 It doesn't matter what you think.
00:11:15.900 And the stepdad got to parent me.
00:11:17.120 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:11:17.940 Listen to what I'm saying to you.
00:11:18.680 And my mum would cheat him over me.
00:11:20.200 Wait, wait.
00:11:20.660 It doesn't matter what you think.
00:11:22.640 No, I'm saying in reality.
00:11:24.460 No, wait.
00:11:25.140 It doesn't matter what you think.
00:11:26.620 It's not what I think.
00:11:27.340 It's what I live.
00:11:27.860 Wait, we're talking about what men think.
00:11:30.120 We're not talking about what you think.
00:11:31.260 And this man still wants my mum.
00:11:33.100 Wait.
00:11:33.140 Oh my goodness gracious, my dear.
00:11:35.340 Women don't listen.
00:11:35.660 Listen.
00:11:36.440 Do you want to...
00:11:37.580 Hang on.
00:11:37.840 Wait, wait, wait.
00:11:38.240 We, as men, understand the minds of women.
00:11:41.840 We understand what women want, generally.
00:11:43.780 Yes, we do.
00:11:44.640 No, you don't.
00:11:45.040 We understand that women...
00:11:45.900 Trust me.
00:11:46.560 It takes a lot to understand women.
00:11:47.560 Wait, wait, wait.
00:11:48.460 I'll tell you what.
00:11:49.020 Because a woman can say, I want this and I want that, and she actually doesn't want that.
00:11:51.900 Right.
00:11:52.400 So we understand that women want general things.
00:11:54.240 We like to play games, you know.
00:11:54.840 You want security.
00:11:55.920 Do you want security?
00:11:56.720 Of course.
00:11:57.280 Every woman wants security.
00:11:58.280 Do you want to protect her?
00:11:59.160 Of course.
00:12:00.080 Do you want to provide her?
00:12:00.900 Of course.
00:12:01.300 No, no, no, but there's more to why.
00:12:04.300 Wait, wait, wait.
00:12:04.320 Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys.
00:12:07.760 He's the host.
00:12:08.720 He's the host.
00:12:10.320 You're going to...
00:12:10.800 I don't want to, like, throw people out and shit.
00:12:13.400 You're going to get your mic muted if you keep interrupting you.
00:12:15.520 I don't want to throw people out.
00:12:16.760 But what I'm trying to say to you, if we understand as men, you want protectors and
00:12:20.740 providers and people who do that, we understand as men, that's what we've got to be.
00:12:25.640 The problem is, as women, you don't understand what men want.
00:12:29.760 You think you understand what men want.
00:12:32.440 And the reason why you think you understand what men want is because you live within an
00:12:36.300 echo chamber of your girlfriends.
00:12:38.040 True.
00:12:38.360 You have not come out of that echo chamber and asked men, what do you want from us as
00:12:44.840 women?
00:12:45.360 So, hang on.
00:12:46.320 When women do, you say, oh, that's misogynistic.
00:12:51.400 No, that's just what men want.
00:12:53.680 So, as men, we can actually understand this.
00:12:55.900 We can actually talk amongst ourselves and say, this is what we, as men, want.
00:13:00.240 But you think, because of your echo chamber, that's misogynistic.
00:13:05.460 Okay, but how many dads are out there, let's say?
00:13:10.180 I'm a dad.
00:13:10.920 Are you a dad, yeah?
00:13:11.560 Yeah, I'm a dad.
00:13:11.960 Cool.
00:13:12.180 I'm a dad, too.
00:13:13.280 He's a dad, too.
00:13:13.980 Lovely.
00:13:14.300 There you go.
00:13:14.660 Shout out to the kids.
00:13:15.520 So, I've seen women that are baby mums get with a guy that respects his child, her child,
00:13:23.220 respects her, and the whole situation way more than the actual real baby dad did.
00:13:29.640 Sorry, say that again.
00:13:30.660 Repeat that for me.
00:13:31.220 What I'm trying to say is that I've seen women that have kids dating guys.
00:13:37.300 She's obviously, like, separated, divorced, whatever.
00:13:39.520 She's dating other guys, and they've actually, and it was-
00:13:43.380 They've respected the child.
00:13:44.240 Yes, way more than maybe their own dad has.
00:13:46.680 Yeah, but respect and love is too big of it.
00:13:48.180 Okay, love and comfort.
00:13:49.360 Because he's a good guy.
00:13:51.020 Do you know why?
00:13:51.760 Why?
00:13:52.180 I would blame the girl, because she was with the wrong guy in the first place.
00:13:55.700 Okay, I hear it.
00:13:56.960 But what I'm trying to say is that, like, it goes to say that not every guy thinks that,
00:14:02.040 you know, because she's got a child.
00:14:04.620 It's because he doesn't have any other options.
00:14:06.760 It's because his pickings weren't that good, honestly.
00:14:08.680 There's, like, one, there's 41 forms of birth control.
00:14:11.700 Like, why are you getting pregnant with, like, with this random, like, I don't understand
00:14:15.620 why these girls are getting babies left and right.
00:14:17.500 41 forms of birth control.
00:14:18.660 Yeah, but you can be married and have a kid.
00:14:20.760 That doesn't mean that you're just getting with someone randomly.
00:14:22.260 Okay, but then you have a duty.
00:14:23.720 Don't leave.
00:14:24.700 What do you mean don't leave?
00:14:25.360 Women leave 70% of the time.
00:14:30.040 If they're college educated, they leave 90% of the time.
00:14:32.300 Correct.
00:14:32.620 Women ruin relationships, and they ruin families.
00:14:35.160 Women leave.
00:14:36.040 Women typically do it.
00:14:37.720 And so, if a guy, ask the majority of men, their first choice is not a baby mother.
00:14:44.360 Just like our first choice typically is not a short, broke guy.
00:14:48.880 That's right.
00:14:49.260 It's the same thing.
00:14:50.400 It's the same thing.
00:14:51.400 Now, will we put up with a guy that's shorter if he's good looking?
00:14:55.280 Sure.
00:14:55.720 Will a guy put up with a single mother if she has some other things that she brings to
00:14:59.840 the table?
00:15:00.200 Maybe she's attractive.
00:15:01.360 Maybe she has other stuff.
00:15:02.520 Maybe she's submissive.
00:15:03.380 Whatever it is that he values.
00:15:04.480 Yeah, but it's most men.
00:15:05.760 It is not their first choice.
00:15:06.920 Okay, but maybe that woman that has a child has more to offer than a woman that doesn't.
00:15:10.460 And you're talking as a woman.
00:15:11.800 You don't.
00:15:12.460 See, I want.
00:15:13.200 Can I just land on something?
00:15:15.480 What you just said is an example of simping.
00:15:19.980 And that's exactly what we've been talking about.
00:15:21.460 How is that an example of simping?
00:15:22.800 Let it be.
00:15:23.600 If a guy would go out of his way to give more to a woman who already has a child, he's doing
00:15:29.880 that because he knows that if he wants to be with a woman, he's actually got to show
00:15:33.480 respect to the child as well.
00:15:34.460 100%.
00:15:34.900 So he has to simp, actually.
00:15:37.520 He's got to do more.
00:15:38.540 He's got to give more to be in that relationship.
00:15:42.160 And this is why we're here talking about it.
00:15:44.580 So basically, it's the effort.
00:15:46.420 It's not just effort because she's not going to have to do that for him.
00:15:50.440 He's not going to have to do that for her.
00:15:51.760 When you're a single mother and you get married, you get all the benefits.
00:15:56.320 So it's like we get bailed out of a bad decision.
00:15:59.240 Like you made a poor choice and instead of taking your bed and lying in it, you get bailed
00:16:03.540 out by some simp.
00:16:04.560 Why do you have to lie in a bed that maybe is very harmful for yourself though?
00:16:08.160 Because you made a poor choice.
00:16:09.980 I've been in a relationship where single, like where the girl has a baby.
00:16:16.480 They don't let you, like some girls, they don't let you meet their babies.
00:16:20.200 That's right.
00:16:20.700 And you can't discipline that child?
00:16:22.680 You can't just slam anyone meet your kid.
00:16:24.520 Yeah, but you can't do that.
00:16:25.600 Let him speak.
00:16:26.200 Let him speak.
00:16:27.100 Let him speak.
00:16:27.520 First of all, you don't, you don't get to see their child, you don't get to sit down
00:16:33.400 with them until things are serious and clear to her that you, that you're showing intention.
00:16:40.980 You're showing intention.
00:16:41.960 All right.
00:16:43.260 So, uh, so for me as a man, if you let me understood from the beginning, okay, I have
00:16:48.300 a child, but first of all, I'm not going to let you meet my child for the first six months
00:16:55.200 that we're dating, yeah, their dad or his dad or her dad comes around every now and then
00:17:02.000 to check, to check on them.
00:17:04.820 So you have to respect that, right?
00:17:06.840 If she makes everything clear to you from the beginning, right?
00:17:09.860 And that you have feelings for her despite her having a child, I don't condemn that, right?
00:17:15.860 You can be with a, with a single mother and build a family with alongside that, that child
00:17:21.660 that's been there already.
00:17:22.740 Right.
00:17:23.040 There's nothing wrong with that.
00:17:24.520 Yeah.
00:17:24.960 Yeah.
00:17:25.420 There's, there's, there's nothing wrong with that.
00:17:27.640 But is that the adult situation?
00:17:28.900 No, but, but then, but then, no, but then I'll get to your point, right?
00:17:33.320 Yeah.
00:17:33.540 Sorry.
00:17:33.800 Go on, man.
00:17:34.500 If, if like, there's no problem dating or marrying a single woman, a single mother, right?
00:17:39.900 Yeah.
00:17:40.580 But, uh, but, but there's this situation where there's this, you, you, you made me.
00:17:49.540 No, but, but then, but then what, sorry, saying as a man, we don't put as a single
00:17:57.360 mother as our first choice.
00:17:59.160 Of course, it's not your first choice.
00:18:00.400 If you are, if you have kids yourself, you cannot go and tell people if they can and can't
00:18:06.380 have kids.
00:18:06.700 No, but let me finish.
00:18:07.560 Earlier, you were saying that you don't put a virgin guy as your first choice to have sex
00:18:12.280 with.
00:18:12.760 I didn't say that.
00:18:13.600 I didn't say that.
00:18:14.220 No, I said that.
00:18:14.820 You said that.
00:18:16.000 No, I said that with the rabbi's running.
00:18:17.860 I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say the same thing and
00:18:20.960 it's not controversial and the men won't get upset.
00:18:23.000 A single father isn't my first choice.
00:18:24.920 Right.
00:18:25.220 Most women, most women don't care because, because the thing is like when a man has multiple
00:18:29.700 children, it signals to, to most women that other women have selected him.
00:18:34.300 And like, actually I've heard from single dads that they get more women after they have kids.
00:18:37.640 So I'm not the norm, but I can, I've said on this podcast multiple times, single father,
00:18:42.260 not my first choice.
00:18:43.660 And it's not controversial, but like women get triggered.
00:18:46.420 I don't know why.
00:18:46.920 No, but the thing is, I'm a father and I understand this.
00:18:51.720 I have a child and I understand I'm not women's first choice and I'm cool with it.
00:18:59.100 I understand.
00:18:59.500 Can I say something to that?
00:19:00.800 No, no, no.
00:19:01.360 Wait, let me finish though.
00:19:03.080 I'm a single father and I understand that I'm not women's first choice.
00:19:05.260 It's real.
00:19:06.240 Because I've got a child and I may have quote unquote baggage that I'm bringing with me.
00:19:10.500 True.
00:19:10.700 When you say that to a woman, ah, oh my God, ah, it's like, yo, but hang on, but, but why
00:19:18.540 don't you understand the same thing?
00:19:20.060 That's, that's the selfishness of women coming out.
00:19:22.860 I hear it.
00:19:23.540 I hear it.
00:19:24.060 Women are selfish.
00:19:25.120 Women are selfish beings.
00:19:25.940 I hear it, but don't go to say that, um, a woman that has a child is less valuable.
00:19:30.600 In your eyes, maybe.
00:19:31.620 No, a woman that has a child is less valuable to a man.
00:19:35.080 Hang on, wait, wait, wait, wait, not to, not to herself and not to her girlfriends.
00:19:39.560 And that's why I said, women need to step out of their echo chambers and start asking
00:19:44.980 men, hang on, you need to start asking men what they value.
00:19:49.380 And the problem is when you start asking men, shout out, rest in peace, Kevin Samuels.
00:19:54.960 Okay.
00:19:56.020 He, he highlighted this and he highlighted that when men speak and when men think and when
00:20:01.900 men feel and when men express their opinions, right.
00:20:06.060 Women that are single mothers of like two, three, four, or however many children, fat
00:20:12.940 chicks too, right.
00:20:14.060 You have to understand how men speak and how men feel and it offends you.
00:20:20.460 That's not our problem.
00:20:21.620 Can I ask you?
00:20:22.180 But men are allowed to have their standards.
00:20:23.980 I can't lie.
00:20:24.480 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Amanda has standards.
00:20:30.500 When a man, when a woman has standards, men are not offended.
00:20:33.780 If you say you don't want short guys, we're like, all right, cool.
00:20:37.980 You don't want short guys.
00:20:38.940 When a man says, I don't want a baby mother.
00:20:41.020 Oh my God.
00:20:41.820 What do you want to want to do?
00:20:42.980 It's like, you get offended.
00:20:44.360 It's like, it's crazy.
00:20:45.260 Like men are allowed to have standards too.
00:20:47.160 I'm not going to lie.
00:20:47.920 I don't want a baby dad either.
00:20:49.320 Or he, a man could actually have all the things that he, everything.
00:20:53.660 And if he has kids, I'm like, no, dead that straight away.
00:20:55.940 And I respect a man that actually says, raw, listen, I don't want this.
00:21:00.460 This is not what I want.
00:21:01.680 But you as a woman have to understand that that's not his standard.
00:21:04.920 No, but I'll tell you something.
00:21:05.760 So would you agree?
00:21:06.400 You will break all of your rules for the right guy.
00:21:09.600 If he has kids, fuck no.
00:21:10.940 No, you will break, I guarantee you, you will break all of your rules for the right guy.
00:21:16.080 I have been in a situation.
00:21:17.480 Are you a virgin?
00:21:18.260 Are you a virgin?
00:21:19.120 Let me just ask you a question.
00:21:20.640 Are you a virgin?
00:21:21.560 No.
00:21:21.980 Yeah, yeah.
00:21:22.320 Right?
00:21:22.760 So if you're not a virgin and you turn around and say, oh, that guy has a baby, all right?
00:21:29.160 So I'm not going to, I'm not going to be in a relationship.
00:21:31.740 But then at the same time, you're not even a virgin.
00:21:33.540 No, no, no, no, no.
00:21:34.200 Can I say why?
00:21:34.980 Can I say why I would not give a guy the chance?
00:21:37.460 Can I say why I would not give a guy that has kids?
00:21:40.320 Because me as a person, I know myself and I can't give those kids the love that they require.
00:21:44.860 That's the reason why.
00:21:45.900 I can't, I can't be around someone else's child.
00:21:48.440 Then ask him for now.
00:21:48.940 That I know he's had another woman.
00:21:50.700 And I already know, as a man, you know you're going to go and do your little ting ting with your baby mom.
00:21:54.360 Let's be real now.
00:21:55.080 No.
00:21:55.500 I believe it all comes down.
00:21:56.920 No.
00:21:57.740 Okay.
00:21:57.980 When you go and pick up them kids, them little cheeky, little kids.
00:22:01.840 Guys, guys, guys, guys.
00:22:02.560 Not all men, innit?
00:22:03.220 Actually, look it, look it, look it.
00:22:04.520 I agree with you.
00:22:05.600 Like, a single thought, like, again, it wouldn't be my first choice.
00:22:08.360 It wouldn't.
00:22:09.120 Because I just think there's baggage that comes with that.
00:22:11.100 Exactly.
00:22:11.660 But you get it.
00:22:12.200 But like, why when Sarah was saying the same thing, you guys were like, but that doesn't make her less valuable, did it?
00:22:16.800 No, because the way he said that just sounded mad, didn't it?
00:22:19.020 That's the only reason.
00:22:20.180 Hang on, wait, wait, wait.
00:22:20.880 That's the only reason.
00:22:21.720 Hang on, you know what you just got to?
00:22:23.120 You got to feelings.
00:22:24.420 Oh, that's true.
00:22:25.380 I did.
00:22:25.900 Hang on, wait.
00:22:26.480 I did.
00:22:27.200 As facts, we don't care.
00:22:28.540 We don't give a fuck about your feelings.
00:22:30.020 We're talking about the facts.
00:22:31.620 The facts is, I understand as a man that being a father of another child, I understand that a lot of women may say, I'm going to curb that guy.
00:22:40.320 I'm not taking that guy because he's got a child.
00:22:42.460 I understand that.
00:22:43.420 And I'm cool with that.
00:22:44.480 And that's a fact.
00:22:45.860 My feelings don't come into that situation.
00:22:47.920 The problem is, is that when you say the same thing to women, oh, but I feel like we don't give a fuck about your feelings.
00:22:53.880 Can I say something?
00:22:55.120 Because the bottom line is, hang on, because the bottom line is, it's the same thing.
00:22:59.640 But your feelings tend to take precedent over the facts.
00:23:04.920 Do you know why?
00:23:05.180 I think it's different.
00:23:05.980 Do you know why, though?
00:23:06.860 Okay, okay.
00:23:08.300 You can go for a second, then you can go to answer.
00:23:10.280 Do you know what?
00:23:10.560 I think the difference is why all the girls were saying, but, but, but, but, but, but, and it goes back to what he said.
00:23:14.740 Your guy, you two are saying, if a girl has a child, she's a five.
00:23:18.600 But it completely depends on the child, the relationship with the child.
00:23:21.920 Like, I might meet a guy, his baby mom's tapped, always involved.
00:23:26.520 That's a, that's a fall immediately.
00:23:28.060 Yeah, but you're a side chick, though.
00:23:28.620 No, no.
00:23:29.420 Yeah, you're a side chick, though.
00:23:30.700 You said five minutes.
00:23:31.840 You're a side chick, though.
00:23:32.140 Okay, okay, so, so you're, so you're saying it depends based on the girl.
00:23:36.320 That's what you're saying.
00:23:37.040 It depends on the girl, and it depends on how the person lets, if you have someone that doesn't let you parent their child at all, how can that ever work?
00:23:44.200 Okay, so, you're looking at it from a woman's point of view.
00:23:47.400 Yes.
00:23:47.620 Because for us, it depends based on the relationship.
00:23:50.720 No, because my mom let a guy parent me.
00:23:53.080 Your mom, who's another woman.
00:23:54.260 I'm going to choose him.
00:23:55.220 I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know, I don't know your personal situation.
00:24:00.040 I'm not going to speak on, like, your life.
00:24:01.800 I don't know it.
00:24:02.260 But I'm saying, I'm saying, in general, it's not men's first choice.
00:24:05.720 My dad let the other guy parent me, though.
00:24:08.020 You guys are saying this about one.
00:24:10.120 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, and it really doesn't matter the situation.
00:24:14.940 I don't know who your stepdad is, but typically, it's lower status men that don't have a ton of options.
00:24:20.000 Because if you look at the men with the money and the power, and that have the most options, they tend to pick young, single, childless women.
00:24:27.560 You weren't low status, my stepdad.
00:24:29.400 Can I comment on that?
00:24:30.820 Again, that's what I said.
00:24:31.860 I don't know your life.
00:24:32.260 Can I comment on that?
00:24:33.220 No, I totally agree with you.
00:24:34.520 I've been brought up with boys, like men, my uncle, my dad.
00:24:37.520 So I fully understand that.
00:24:39.280 I feel like it doesn't matter what caliber a man is at, whether he's got money or poor or whatever.
00:24:44.080 They still do go for the same thing, whether it's pure, innocent.
00:24:47.800 They still go for the same thing.
00:24:48.860 Because at the end of the day, as I said before earlier, what I was trying to touch on is that in our nature, men want to be a provider.
00:24:55.180 They want to.
00:24:55.680 So therefore, they want their legacy to go on.
00:24:58.240 And therefore.
00:24:58.980 Right.
00:24:59.260 To their kids.
00:24:59.920 Exactly.
00:25:00.160 To their kids.
00:25:01.120 Exactly.
00:25:01.380 And therefore, as women, we are like, we are what?
00:25:04.180 Look, printers.
00:25:05.220 We were going to imprint.
00:25:06.720 No, we are.
00:25:07.540 We are human printers.
00:25:08.520 We're going to print that man.
00:25:09.460 So therefore, he's going to look at us and want to mirror that within our children.
00:25:12.840 Right.
00:25:13.080 Right.
00:25:14.020 You're great.
00:25:14.700 And then it also.
00:25:15.400 And also they look at them.
00:25:16.400 In the episode on what subject she is.
00:25:18.160 There's some single mothers that are like better than others.
00:25:21.460 Yes.
00:25:21.880 So, so not, not all of them, you know, one girl might get minus five or let's say seven points
00:25:27.500 because her baby daddy was, you know, in jail.
00:25:30.120 Yeah.
00:25:30.320 But, and one might, and one might get four.
00:25:32.480 No, but the point is, no, no, but, but the point is, but you're missing the point.
00:25:37.000 The point is regardless if you have a child, you get points subtracted.
00:25:40.620 I know.
00:25:41.200 That's why, that's what I was saying.
00:25:42.600 I know, I know, I know.
00:25:43.880 Has anyone ever got children?
00:25:45.300 No.
00:25:45.600 That's what I said.
00:25:46.200 I do.
00:25:46.420 Sir.
00:25:46.960 Sir.
00:25:47.280 Who's got a child?
00:25:48.040 I do.
00:25:48.700 You got a child?
00:25:49.660 Yes.
00:25:50.080 Bro, how old is your child?
00:25:51.480 He's three.
00:25:52.160 He's three.
00:25:52.740 How old are you?
00:25:53.400 I'm 21.
00:25:54.280 Okay.
00:25:54.820 So, hang on.
00:25:55.900 This is, this is great.
00:25:57.380 So.
00:25:58.320 Don't make it too personal.
00:25:59.600 No, no, but you're a 21 year old.
00:26:01.420 Yeah.
00:26:01.820 With a three year old.
00:26:02.700 Yeah.
00:26:03.120 Which means you had your child at 18.
00:26:04.660 Yes, I did.
00:26:05.240 Okay.
00:26:05.720 Ask her how.
00:26:06.520 Hang on.
00:26:06.960 No, no, it's not even that.
00:26:08.700 I'm saying, do you think, so the type of man that you're looking for, the type of man
00:26:13.700 that you may be looking for.
00:26:14.880 Yeah.
00:26:15.220 Right?
00:26:16.420 You have to understand that that man, he, because you're 21.
00:26:20.200 Yeah.
00:26:20.600 You may be looking for a 27 year old maybe at this point in time.
00:26:23.540 Right?
00:26:23.820 I will be looking at this.
00:26:24.840 Are we asking?
00:26:25.200 Yeah, like you might be looking for a guy who's like 27.
00:26:27.360 Someone who's mature.
00:26:28.140 Yeah, but a bit more older than you.
00:26:30.280 Yeah.
00:26:31.100 If a guy's 27, yeah, that means he's in his quote unquote prime of life.
00:26:36.720 Okay.
00:26:37.140 He's building that.
00:26:38.460 He's building himself up to be a man.
00:26:40.420 Yeah.
00:26:40.680 Do you think a man, he's building himself up to be a man, he's looking to take on another
00:26:44.540 man's child?
00:26:46.500 To be honest.
00:26:47.340 Is that what you think?
00:26:47.980 Like I said, it all comes down to different, like everyone's different and everyone's
00:26:52.780 mind's different.
00:26:53.580 Everyone's mindset.
00:26:54.480 Generally, do you think a 27 year old, you think a single 27 year old man.
00:26:58.700 Generally, no.
00:26:59.380 He probably is looking for a single, without a kid.
00:27:01.620 He's looking for a woman without any children.
00:27:03.120 Yeah.
00:27:03.140 That's up.
00:27:03.640 That's up.
00:27:04.260 Exactly.
00:27:04.620 But though, but though, at the same time, right, if, if I meet a girl, yeah, and she's
00:27:09.540 21, 23, whatever, yeah, and she's a single mom, but she was married and she had that
00:27:15.940 baby in a marriage, I would look at her different.
00:27:19.140 I would look at her different.
00:27:20.080 That's different now.
00:27:21.520 It's different now.
00:27:22.620 You get what I'm saying?
00:27:23.460 Different now.
00:27:24.420 It's different, right?
00:27:26.460 It's different.
00:27:27.060 But let me make a point, bruv.
00:27:28.500 Let me make a point.
00:27:29.360 Let him learn.
00:27:30.340 Let him learn.
00:27:30.980 If she was married and she has a baby in that marriage and then at some time the marriage
00:27:36.460 collapse, right?
00:27:37.800 I wouldn't look at her the same as this, as this road lady.
00:27:43.240 That's just what fucking...
00:27:43.980 Road lady.
00:27:44.580 Because she's a fucking guy and got pregnant, right?
00:27:47.720 So understand the minds of men.
00:27:48.320 It's different, right?
00:27:49.280 This is the, this is the mindset of men.
00:27:50.940 Understand the minds of men.
00:27:51.940 This is our mindset.
00:27:52.860 You are an 18 year old unmarried woman.
00:27:55.280 I was married.
00:27:56.320 You are married?
00:27:56.960 Yeah.
00:27:57.600 Okay.
00:27:58.100 So you see?
00:27:58.900 I stand corrected.
00:28:00.480 I stand corrected.
00:28:02.580 So you are a married woman of 18 that had a child.
00:28:04.700 Yes, I was married.
00:28:05.120 I didn't even know that, bruv.
00:28:06.020 Right.
00:28:06.360 Okay.
00:28:07.220 Can I ask you guys something?
00:28:08.400 Can I ask you guys something?
00:28:08.480 Can I ask you guys something?
00:28:10.560 So what I'm trying to say, do you understand how men's minds differ?
00:28:13.560 No, I can understand that.
00:28:14.640 Because if you were an unmarried woman, right?
00:28:17.020 Maybe because I was married.
00:28:17.640 Hang on, wait, wait.
00:28:18.220 If you were an unmarried woman at 18 that had a child that wasn't committed to a relationship,
00:28:22.500 you were just some random chick having a child.
00:28:24.800 That's why.
00:28:25.420 Men will be like, nah.
00:28:27.620 Can I ask you guys a question?
00:28:30.340 I hear it.
00:28:30.980 That's why I was saying what I was saying.
00:28:32.940 Is there a difference between a woman that's married or in a long-term relationship?
00:28:38.600 We just say that.
00:28:39.540 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:28:40.600 But listen.
00:28:41.500 You're just telling me.
00:28:42.080 No, no, but listen.
00:28:43.080 We've been saying this for hours.
00:28:43.600 No, no, listen.
00:28:44.360 But you're a side chick.
00:28:45.360 You don't sit on the table of the married woman.
00:28:47.860 Don't hold that against her.
00:28:48.980 Guys, guys, guys, let her go.
00:28:50.020 Stop doing that because I'm actually a rational person.
00:28:51.680 Let her go.
00:28:52.100 Let her go.
00:28:52.380 See my brother.
00:28:53.620 See my brothers, they're Muslim.
00:28:54.980 So they do the marriage thing quick.
00:28:57.320 Right.
00:28:57.500 So they'll meet someone.
00:28:58.820 Maybe they'll get married after a couple of weeks.
00:29:00.400 Two of my brothers.
00:29:01.180 A couple of weeks?
00:29:02.020 Yeah.
00:29:02.220 Like, it's a quick process.
00:29:03.300 That's how it is.
00:29:03.760 That's how it is.
00:29:04.520 It's a quick process.
00:29:05.320 That's how it is.
00:29:05.900 It's not a week.
00:29:06.920 That's how it is.
00:29:07.620 In a lot of, in a lot of, in a lot of, in a lot of, a lot of that culture, they'll
00:29:11.660 get married a lot quicker than, say, yeah, they'll get married a couple of weeks.
00:29:14.600 Wait, guys, they do, they do, they do.
00:29:16.660 Some people get married by the first look.
00:29:18.220 This is what I'm saying.
00:29:19.100 I, I, I, I've heard of that.
00:29:20.560 That's why in Dubai they get married and they divorce.
00:29:22.680 That's in that culture as well.
00:29:23.680 In that culture, they have things like arranged marriage.
00:29:25.680 It's like, it's a quicker process than in like Western society.
00:29:28.720 They have multiple marriages though.
00:29:29.180 Like in Western society, it will take you a lot longer to get married.
00:29:32.000 So in essence, I'm, I'm asking, what's the difference between some, let's say she got
00:29:36.760 married, say she's missing.
00:29:38.180 How long were you married for?
00:29:39.180 Uh, free, well, I got married pretty quick as well, so there we go.
00:29:42.180 This is what I mean.
00:29:43.180 Were you Muslim or something?
00:29:44.180 I'm Muslim, yeah.
00:29:45.180 Yeah, this is what I mean.
00:29:46.180 How long were you married for?
00:29:47.180 Uh, so I got married after three months.
00:29:50.180 Wow.
00:29:51.180 Exactly.
00:29:52.180 It's a cultural thing.
00:29:53.180 It's a cultural thing.
00:29:54.180 No, it's a cultural thing.
00:29:55.180 It's a cultural thing, but also religious thing.
00:29:57.180 I think I understand your question.
00:29:58.180 So let's say I've been in a relationship with a guy for five years.
00:30:02.180 We've not been married.
00:30:03.180 Yeah.
00:30:04.180 Okay.
00:30:05.180 For whatever reason.
00:30:06.180 Now let's say she's been, she got married after three months.
00:30:08.180 Do you see a difference?
00:30:09.180 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:30:15.180 Okay.
00:30:16.180 So I'll tell you how men see it.
00:30:17.180 It's like what to them, to them, to them, to them.
00:30:20.180 It's like, why weren't you worth marrying?
00:30:22.180 So, so, so to me to, to them, it's like, oh, she got married after three months.
00:30:27.180 I trust men, like trust each other to vet women.
00:30:30.180 Yeah.
00:30:31.180 So to them, it's like, then there's something wrong with you because you were with, like,
00:30:34.180 one, they would ask, why would you be with a guy for five years without marriage?
00:30:37.180 And then two, like, why didn't he think you were worth marrying?
00:30:40.180 Me personally, I put value on marriage.
00:30:41.180 And I'm not, and I'm not, and I'm not trying to be, I'm not trying to be like rude, but
00:30:44.180 I'm saying like, that's just how men view it.
00:30:46.180 Me personally, I don't put much value on marriage.
00:30:49.180 Can I just give you, and wait, wait, wait.
00:30:52.180 And so I understand like where, where you're coming from, because like, honestly, the marriage
00:30:57.180 contract is so bad nowadays.
00:30:59.180 Like it's, it's, it's, it's horrible.
00:31:01.180 And I, I understand like why men don't want to get married.
00:31:05.180 And I, especially in the West and in the UK.
00:31:08.180 I can't, yeah, I'm, I'm a hundred percent with you, but like to her.
00:31:12.180 So like, let's say you both had a child.
00:31:14.180 The men would look at her and say, she was so valid.
00:31:17.180 She was so valuable to that guy that he was, that she was worth it.
00:31:21.180 Like, like to like, he was willing to take that risk for her.
00:31:24.180 And so she gets like a higher status.
00:31:27.180 And I'm not, and I'm not saying that's, that's right or fair.
00:31:30.180 I'm just saying like, this is how, this is how men, this is how men view it.
00:31:35.180 So guys, guys will just give you a kid now and just not raising it.
00:31:41.180 Cause they don't have to bear it.
00:31:42.180 They don't have to at the end of the day.
00:31:44.180 See, when I have a kid, it's in me.
00:31:45.180 I have to push out and I'm left with it.
00:31:47.180 Well, but women, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:31:55.180 Please respect the fucking host guys.
00:31:58.180 You're going to get muted.
00:31:59.180 Stop.
00:32:00.180 Okay.
00:32:01.180 So this is the thing, like women pick those men.
00:32:04.180 And I just don't buy that women are bamboozled and they have no idea that these are.
00:32:09.180 No, I don't believe that.
00:32:10.180 Right.
00:32:11.180 And so we, we are, we are in control of sex.
00:32:14.180 We have 41, 41 forms of birth control.
00:32:17.180 Yeah.
00:32:18.180 Abortions are, are free here and legal.
00:32:20.180 We are completely in control of who is born.
00:32:22.180 I can't lie.
00:32:23.180 That woman deserves what she gets.
00:32:24.180 Yeah.
00:32:25.180 That's what I'm saying.
00:32:26.180 Yeah.
00:32:27.180 Yeah.
00:32:28.180 Because I'm 30 and I have no kids for a reason.
00:32:29.180 Right.
00:32:30.180 Right.
00:32:31.180 That's what I'm saying.
00:32:32.180 I believe the girl that gets pregnant by a guy.
00:32:33.180 Have you had an abortion though?
00:32:34.180 That's.
00:32:35.180 Exactly.
00:32:36.180 Go ahead.
00:32:37.180 Everyone agrees on abortion.
00:32:39.180 So.
00:32:40.180 No, but what I'm trying to say is.
00:32:41.180 If you don't believe in abortion, don't let man bust on you.
00:32:43.180 And don't have sex without contraception.
00:32:45.180 But you could have contraception and still get pregnant.
00:32:47.180 I think what Paul's saying is we should be responsible.
00:32:49.180 Yeah.
00:32:50.180 But it's very, it's very, it's very.
00:32:51.180 And I'm not, I'm not, I know you have a kid, so I'm not trying to come at you.
00:32:53.180 Yeah.
00:32:54.180 Of course.
00:32:55.180 You get an IUD.
00:32:56.180 That's a 99.5% effective.
00:32:57.180 You only really get pregnant three to five days in the month when you're ovulate.
00:33:00.180 I know there's exceptions, but every girl, every girl that I know personally that had
00:33:05.180 an abortion or had an unwanted pregnancy personally, I just go off of what I see in real life and the numbers.
00:33:11.180 They were irresponsible in some way.
00:33:12.180 Like some of the girls weren't on birth control and you were letting him finish in you.
00:33:17.180 What is wrong with you?
00:33:18.180 If you know you're not on birth control.
00:33:20.180 If you know you're not on birth control and you get pregnant and you don't believe in abortions personally.
00:33:25.180 I feel like that's your business.
00:33:27.180 Let me ask you a question though.
00:33:29.180 As a, as the woman who has, who was seeing another man's woman.
00:33:33.180 Yeah.
00:33:34.180 Right.
00:33:35.180 Or has seen another man.
00:33:36.180 Yeah.
00:33:37.180 Who's got a woman.
00:33:38.180 Yeah.
00:33:39.180 If you got pregnant, would you keep his baby?
00:33:40.180 No, no, no, no.
00:33:41.180 You wouldn't.
00:33:42.180 As much as I'm in it.
00:33:43.180 Because you were saying that you love him and you all this.
00:33:45.180 When I say love, it's this.
00:33:46.180 I used to love the word love very loosely.
00:33:48.180 However, no, I would never put myself in that position.
00:33:50.180 Okay.
00:33:51.180 I just, I just, I just, I just know he's willing to cheat and I like him and his.
00:33:57.180 And you're happy with being a sidekick.
00:33:58.180 On that actually.
00:33:59.180 Is he simping for you?
00:34:00.180 Because that's what it kind of sounds like.
00:34:01.180 He don't simp for me.
00:34:02.180 I don't simp for him.
00:34:03.180 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:34:04.180 We don't simp for each other.
00:34:05.180 No, but you said when he calls you, when you call him, you don't pick up.
00:34:10.180 But when he calls you, you pick up.
00:34:12.180 Right?
00:34:13.180 He calls you two, three times a week.
00:34:14.180 Do you know why?
00:34:15.180 Do you know why?
00:34:16.180 Do you know why?
00:34:17.180 That sounds like simping to me.
00:34:18.180 But let me explain.
00:34:19.180 Cause basically he has a girl.
00:34:20.180 Right?
00:34:21.180 So I don't have a man.
00:34:22.180 So I have no attachment.
00:34:23.180 No, I have to hide the secret from him.
00:34:24.180 You do have a man.
00:34:25.180 It's him.
00:34:26.180 True.
00:34:27.180 All right.
00:34:28.180 So potentially if I call him.
00:34:29.180 Bro, don't make her believe she has a man.
00:34:31.180 Why she don't?
00:34:32.180 No, no, no.
00:34:33.180 I'm not delusional.
00:34:34.180 That's the one.
00:34:35.180 In her head she has a man.
00:34:36.180 Listen.
00:34:37.180 Okay.
00:34:38.180 If I call him, potentially he might be with his girl.
00:34:39.180 All right.
00:34:40.180 So do you have, hang on, hang on.
00:34:41.180 Let me ask you a question.
00:34:42.180 So do you have other men then?
00:34:43.180 Yes.
00:34:44.180 What are you doing?
00:34:45.180 He says star again.
00:34:46.180 Can I, can I, can I ask you a question?
00:34:48.180 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:34:49.180 Can I ask you a question?
00:34:52.180 Can I ask you a question?
00:34:53.180 Do you, do you want to be married?
00:34:54.180 Do you want to have kids?
00:34:55.180 You see me?
00:34:56.180 Maybe, maybe not married.
00:34:57.180 No, no, no, no.
00:34:58.180 100%.
00:34:59.180 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:35:00.180 Can I, can I just, wait, wait.
00:35:01.180 So you do?
00:35:02.180 Yeah.
00:35:03.180 How long?
00:35:04.180 Cause you're 30.
00:35:05.180 I know what I'm saying.
00:35:06.180 I'm just genuine.
00:35:07.180 Wait, wait, wait.
00:35:08.180 So, so geriatric pregnancy starts at 35.
00:35:10.180 35.
00:35:11.180 I've got five years.
00:35:12.180 And, and in that time you have to get to know someone, convince them to do, you know,
00:35:16.180 cause wait, wait, wait.
00:35:17.180 How, how long do you want to play these games for?
00:35:19.180 No, no, no.
00:35:20.180 Realistically.
00:35:21.180 I have guys that I could just give me a baby.
00:35:22.180 We'll look after the baby.
00:35:23.180 They're good friends to me.
00:35:24.180 Yeah.
00:35:25.180 But you wouldn't give me.
00:35:26.180 Right.
00:35:27.180 Right.
00:35:28.180 Right.
00:35:29.180 Right.
00:35:30.180 Right.
00:35:31.180 Realistically.
00:35:32.180 If, if I really thought, listen, I, my time's up.
00:35:33.180 I need to have a kid.
00:35:34.180 There's guys I could do that with.
00:35:35.180 If that's what I want.
00:35:36.180 Right.
00:35:37.180 I'm just genuinely asking like, how long do you want to play these games?
00:35:50.180 See me.
00:35:51.180 I don't know.
00:35:52.180 Can I.
00:35:53.180 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:35:56.180 She's sorry.
00:35:57.180 Sorry.
00:35:58.180 Sorry.
00:35:59.180 Sorry.
00:36:00.180 I just, I'm saying, don't give me a long sentence.
00:36:03.180 Just how long do you want to play these games for?
00:36:05.180 Don't just answer.
00:36:06.180 Until I meet someone I want to have a kid with.
00:36:08.180 Okay.
00:36:09.180 Can I ask you a question now?
00:36:10.180 Okay.
00:36:11.180 Can I ask you a question now?
00:36:12.180 Okay.
00:36:13.180 At this moment, at this very moment, would you get rid of a baby?
00:36:15.180 If you happen to get pregnant tomorrow.
00:36:16.180 His baby.
00:36:17.180 His baby.
00:36:18.180 She said yes.
00:36:19.180 She said yes.
00:36:20.180 She said yes.
00:36:21.180 Listen, I would only have a baby with someone that, um, that I'm in, that if I'm in a committed
00:36:26.180 relationship that I care for, that they've shown that they have good traits to be a father,
00:36:30.180 to be a good husband.
00:36:31.180 Or if I got to an age that was just too old, that I thought I'm 40 and I'm single.
00:36:36.180 I have very good, good male friends.
00:36:39.180 That would be spam bonus.
00:36:40.180 Right.
00:36:41.180 Yes.
00:36:42.180 That's what I'm saying.
00:36:43.180 It's just like, if I was in your shoes, like shit, if I'm going to be a side chick anyway,
00:36:48.180 I would just compete, figure out what the hell he wants and try to be it.
00:36:51.180 Like if I was, if, if that's what you're going to do anyway, or like, or just cut it off.
00:36:56.180 Do you know what the difference is for me?
00:36:58.180 Do you know what I'd say?
00:36:59.180 Do you know what I'd say?
00:37:00.180 Do you know what I'd say?
00:37:01.180 I'm going to go a little bit deeper.
00:37:02.180 Right.
00:37:03.180 And go to self-esteem.
00:37:04.180 Yeah.
00:37:05.180 If you are a woman who is happy.
00:37:08.180 Yeah.
00:37:09.180 Self-esteem wise.
00:37:10.180 Yeah.
00:37:11.180 With being with a man, that's not your man.
00:37:13.180 Right.
00:37:14.180 Yeah.
00:37:15.180 Knowing that he's never going to commit to you.
00:37:16.180 Yeah.
00:37:17.180 There's a self-esteem issue there.
00:37:18.180 Okay.
00:37:19.180 So I'm not even going to answer.
00:37:20.180 This is my cousin.
00:37:21.180 So let her answer for me.
00:37:22.180 No, no.
00:37:23.180 No, because me answering, I'm biased.
00:37:25.180 Right.
00:37:26.180 You see me personally.
00:37:27.180 There's a self-esteem issue there though.
00:37:28.180 See, the difference for me is right.
00:37:29.180 There is.
00:37:30.180 If I happen to like someone.
00:37:31.180 Right.
00:37:32.180 The majority.
00:37:33.180 Because how, how much do you value yourself?
00:37:35.180 This is what I'm going to say.
00:37:36.180 Wait, wait, wait.
00:37:37.180 How much do you value yourself as a woman, as an individual?
00:37:39.180 But.
00:37:40.180 Hang on, wait.
00:37:41.180 How much do you value yourself as a woman, as an individual, that you will allow yourself.
00:37:46.180 Yeah.
00:37:47.180 To be constantly chasing after an, just, just please just let me speak.
00:37:54.180 Right.
00:37:55.180 To allow yourself to be chasing after another man's, I saw another girl's man.
00:38:01.180 Right.
00:38:02.180 And be happy with that.
00:38:03.180 I don't know what's gone on with you inside your life with, within the 30 years.
00:38:08.180 I don't know.
00:38:09.180 Right.
00:38:10.180 But on a self-esteem issue.
00:38:12.180 Right.
00:38:13.180 You're actually happy with this arrangement.
00:38:16.180 You're happy with it.
00:38:17.180 I don't chase him.
00:38:18.180 No, it doesn't matter.
00:38:19.180 No, that's my answer.
00:38:20.180 But that's the whole point.
00:38:21.180 I don't chase him.
00:38:22.180 But what I'm trying to say is that you're happy with that arrangement.
00:38:24.180 No, it's just called.
00:38:25.180 Honestly.
00:38:26.180 So self-esteem comes in Tuesday.
00:38:27.180 This is not my goal.
00:38:28.180 No, no, no.
00:38:29.180 Dude, this is not my goal.
00:38:30.180 This is not my goal.
00:38:31.180 Do you know when we call a woman?
00:38:32.180 Are you going to let me answer?
00:38:33.180 A dirt, right?
00:38:34.180 Say again, bro.
00:38:35.180 What was my question?
00:38:36.180 A dirt.
00:38:37.180 What's a dirt?
00:38:38.180 What's a dirt?
00:38:39.180 A dirt.
00:38:40.180 Like someone who, who doesn't have no, no self-esteem.
00:38:43.180 Are you not going to let me answer your question?
00:38:45.180 Wait, wait, wait.
00:38:46.180 Wait, wait, wait.
00:38:47.180 She's happy to be a side chick.
00:38:48.180 Yeah.
00:38:49.180 And happy to sleep with, with, with other men around and still in her head, think at some
00:38:54.180 point in her, in her life, she will set her down.
00:38:56.180 She will find a husband.
00:38:57.180 She would build a family.
00:38:59.180 Yeah.
00:39:00.180 Cause that's what women generally want.
00:39:01.180 Impossible.
00:39:02.180 Well, okay.
00:39:03.180 But let's just, okay.
00:39:04.180 I'm just, I'm just going to be real though.
00:39:05.180 Most women can.
00:39:06.180 And most women do like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:09.180 It's not what the guys they want, but like, it's a simp epidemic.
00:39:12.180 Look at the, look at the title of the, how many, how many stuff daddies we got out here?
00:39:16.180 It's not fun, but let's just be real.
00:39:18.180 I'm not saying, I'm not saying it should be that way, but I'm just saying there's usually,
00:39:23.180 they're usually, and number two, number two, you know what?
00:39:26.180 I'm just saying like, I feel like they want to say side chicks have low self-esteem,
00:39:31.180 whatever.
00:39:32.180 And this is going to be an unpopular opinion.
00:39:35.180 But I just, I just feel like there, there are a group of women that will be side chicks,
00:39:39.180 but they compete and they try to steal your man.
00:39:41.180 I'm just saying, if you're going to do it, I wouldn't sign up.
00:39:44.180 I wouldn't, I wouldn't sign up to do it.
00:39:46.180 I'm just saying, if you're going to do it anyway, you might as well.
00:39:49.180 You might look over your whole range.
00:39:50.180 You might as well.
00:39:51.180 Would you be happy, man?
00:39:52.180 Do you know why I don't want to steal your man as someone that's been a side chick?
00:39:57.180 Because I, I, you cheat.
00:39:59.180 So I can't trust you.
00:40:00.180 I don't want to take you from.
00:40:01.180 Then what's the point?
00:40:02.180 Good sex.
00:40:03.180 Do you know what happens?
00:40:04.180 It's good sex.
00:40:05.180 That's it.
00:40:06.180 But hang on.
00:40:07.180 Before we, before, because we're going to close out soon, but yeah, it's good sex.
00:40:11.180 But do you know, as you, because you're 30, right?
00:40:13.180 Yeah.
00:40:14.180 No, as you get to 35 and you get to 40 and you've got no kids.
00:40:17.180 But I know.
00:40:18.180 And wait, wait.
00:40:19.180 When you've got no kids and you've got no future, you're looking ahead of you, right?
00:40:24.180 That loneliness is going to set in.
00:40:26.180 Is it not going to set in?
00:40:27.180 Thank you.
00:40:28.180 Wait, let me finish.
00:40:29.180 Wait, let me finish.
00:40:30.180 The loneliness is going to set in.
00:40:32.180 Right?
00:40:33.180 And you're going to look at all of your girlfriends around you who have got kids and have got,
00:40:36.180 maybe your sisters, maybe your girlfriends, blah, blah, blah.
00:40:39.180 And you're going to feel empty.
00:40:41.180 Yeah.
00:40:42.180 You're going to feel empty.
00:40:43.180 And the thing is, it's like, I don't, like, I don't get it.
00:40:48.180 I'm not going to, I don't, I don't understand how that is your life.
00:40:52.180 I don't understand how that is your life.
00:40:53.180 I don't understand how that is.
00:40:54.180 You don't understand, do you?
00:40:55.180 I'm confused.
00:40:56.180 Can I just say what I think you're saying and you can tell me if I'm right?
00:40:59.180 Yeah, that's fine.
00:41:00.180 In your head, you're going to keep sleeping with him because of the good, the good sex.
00:41:05.180 Yeah.
00:41:06.180 Yeah.
00:41:07.180 And so in your head, you don't want to be with him.
00:41:08.180 Try something.
00:41:09.180 No, no, no.
00:41:10.180 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:41:13.180 So you're going to keep sleeping with him because of the good sex.
00:41:16.180 Yeah.
00:41:17.180 And until you meet someone new.
00:41:19.180 Yeah.
00:41:20.180 And when you meet it, but you wouldn't, if he broke up with his girlfriend tomorrow, you
00:41:23.180 wouldn't be with him, even though you love, even though you love him.
00:41:27.180 Loosely.
00:41:28.180 I'm not actually in love with him.
00:41:29.180 I'm just going off the words that you say.
00:41:31.180 I know.
00:41:32.180 I use it very loosely.
00:41:33.180 A year and a half is a long time.
00:41:34.180 Okay.
00:41:35.180 If I'm just putting myself in your shoes, if I was sleeping with a guy for a year and a half
00:41:39.180 and he was giving, like, if I was in your shoes, I would probably be close to in love
00:41:43.180 with him.
00:41:44.180 If not in love.
00:41:45.180 Okay.
00:41:46.180 I apologize for using that word.
00:41:47.180 So.
00:41:48.180 Because I use it very loosely.
00:41:49.180 Okay.
00:41:50.180 Okay.
00:41:51.180 No, but listen.
00:41:52.180 Okay.
00:41:53.180 Okay.
00:41:54.180 Okay.
00:41:55.180 Okay.
00:41:56.180 I should also explain the reason why I see this guy as much as I do.
00:41:59.180 Because we're in the same social circle now.
00:42:01.180 Okay.
00:42:02.180 Okay.
00:42:03.180 But I'm on Pearl's side when it comes to, I don't know how you have the energy.
00:42:05.180 I'm just saying, like, if you, if you, if I was you, I would either compete for him
00:42:10.180 or get out because you're not going to be open to, like, we all know, we all know
00:42:14.180 when we're getting, like, like, if you, you're not open to meeting someone.
00:42:18.180 Oh, I am.
00:42:19.180 A hundred percent.
00:42:20.180 Really?
00:42:21.180 I feel like I'm a very niche market of person.
00:42:23.180 So when I speak my opinion, no one believes me and everyone thinks I'm happy.
00:42:27.180 My cousin can vouch for him is I do not cap.
00:42:30.180 No.
00:42:31.180 At the end of the day, like I said, he gives good sex and I enjoy.
00:42:36.180 Sometimes it's more than enough for people.
00:42:38.180 However, my cousin, am I not open to meeting other people?
00:42:42.180 No, but you have sex with other people.
00:42:43.180 You have sex with other guys, right?
00:42:44.180 Yeah.
00:42:45.180 Yeah.
00:42:46.180 So I'm saying, so when you say you're open, so you're literally open.
00:42:50.180 Not in that sense.
00:42:51.180 Like, you're literally open.
00:42:52.180 Yeah.
00:42:53.180 Some people, Pearl, some people, I feel like that's their calibre and they're okay with
00:42:57.180 that.
00:42:58.180 But for some people, they need more than that.
00:42:59.180 A high calibre of number of people.
00:43:01.180 But, obviously, he's, like, he's there to save my, he's there in essential to save my
00:43:06.180 body count from going up.
00:43:07.180 Do you see yourself?
00:43:08.180 Okay, okay, okay.
00:43:09.180 But your body count's already going up.
00:43:10.180 No, no, no, let me explain.
00:43:12.180 Because the other person that I will now sleep with, it's not the person that, oh, I just
00:43:16.180 met an, oh, or the person that, oh, I'm horny, I need to sleep with someone.
00:43:19.180 It will be the person that I've been dating, got to know, then slept with them.
00:43:23.180 If it don't work out, it don't work out.
00:43:25.180 Okay, okay.
00:43:26.180 I'm just, so remember, so you've said this on a podcast.
00:43:29.180 Yeah.
00:43:30.180 So I'm just thinking, like, long term for you here.
00:43:32.180 Okay.
00:43:33.180 You have a new guy that's interested.
00:43:35.180 I'll stop sleeping with the other one.
00:43:36.180 Okay, okay, okay, okay.
00:43:37.180 Yeah, yes, yes.
00:43:38.180 Does he want to make the mother of his child, like a potential mother of his kid, a girl
00:43:43.180 that publicly went on a podcast and said, I'm a side chick?
00:43:47.180 Like, I'm just saying, I think most men would understand, like, I hate to say this, but they're
00:43:55.180 more, I think they'd be more forgiving with the slightly, slightly, I didn't say go crazy,
00:43:59.180 higher body count, one or two more than a girl that was willing to be a side chick for
00:44:04.180 years.
00:44:05.180 Okay.
00:44:06.180 Guys, guys, guys.
00:44:07.180 I haven't been here.
00:44:08.180 Wait, wait.
00:44:09.180 I haven't been here.
00:44:10.180 Okay, but.
00:44:11.180 You have a very valid point.
00:44:12.180 Yeah, of course, you have a very valid point.
00:44:13.180 You're going on a year and a half.
00:44:14.180 Yeah, you have a very valid point.
00:44:15.180 It's, wait, wait, wait.
00:44:16.180 Interrupt me.
00:44:17.180 I swear to God.
00:44:18.180 I haven't slept with him in six months.
00:44:20.180 Let's hell speak.
00:44:21.180 God damn.
00:44:22.180 So, it's going to go on years, because he's still in your head.
00:44:26.180 Like, I can just tell.
00:44:28.180 I haven't slept with him in six months.
00:44:29.180 Okay.
00:44:30.180 Okay.
00:44:31.180 Sure.
00:44:32.180 Sure.
00:44:33.180 Okay.
00:44:34.180 But he, but he's, wait, but he's the one that has you.
00:44:37.180 He has the best.
00:44:38.180 And I can tell.
00:44:39.180 And your cousin's nodding.
00:44:40.180 He has the best.
00:44:41.180 Your cousin.
00:44:42.180 Yeah.
00:44:43.180 Okay.
00:44:44.180 But like, I just know, I'm just saying, wait, wait, as I'm just saying as, as like woman
00:44:48.180 to woman, like, you know, when a girl's into a guy like that, you know, when he's that
00:44:53.180 guy for you, like, he's the guy you're breaking the rules for.
00:44:55.180 Right.
00:44:56.180 He's not being the only one though.
00:44:57.180 That's why.
00:44:58.180 If it was just him.
00:44:59.180 Okay.
00:45:00.180 Okay.
00:45:01.180 If it was just him.
00:45:02.180 Maybe.
00:45:03.180 Maybe.
00:45:04.180 Maybe.
00:45:05.180 Maybe.
00:45:06.180 Maybe.
00:45:07.180 Maybe.
00:45:08.180 Maybe.
00:45:09.180 Maybe.
00:45:10.180 Maybe.
00:45:11.180 Maybe.
00:45:12.180 Maybe.
00:45:13.180 Maybe there's one or two other guys that it was similar.
00:45:15.180 Right.
00:45:16.180 I've never been.
00:45:17.180 Okay.
00:45:18.180 Okay.
00:45:19.180 Okay.
00:45:20.180 Okay.
00:45:21.180 Okay.
00:45:22.180 I know.
00:45:23.180 Wait.
00:45:24.180 I know.
00:45:25.180 I never said like that.
00:45:26.180 It was the same exact situation, but maybe you felt similar for, but I, I can, this is
00:45:29.180 the guy you've talked about the most on this podcast.
00:45:31.180 He was the first one you brought up.
00:45:32.180 And women as women.
00:45:33.180 Okay.
00:45:34.180 Okay.
00:45:35.180 Okay.
00:45:36.180 No, no.
00:45:37.180 You brought him up before, before we, you didn't not have to bring him up.
00:45:39.180 Okay.
00:45:40.180 Okay.
00:45:41.180 Okay.
00:45:42.180 I understand.
00:45:43.180 Okay.
00:45:44.180 Okay.
00:45:45.180 Okay.
00:45:46.180 And so, and your cousins nodded.
00:45:47.180 Like, you know, you know, you know, you know, he's not guiding you.
00:45:50.180 And you get, you get.
00:45:51.180 I know enough of him.
00:45:52.180 Paul is trying to say he's not good for your health.
00:45:54.180 I know that though.
00:45:55.180 He really isn't.
00:45:56.180 I know that though.
00:45:57.180 Let that man go.
00:45:58.180 Mental and physical.
00:45:59.180 I know that though.
00:46:00.180 Why have I ever denied that?
00:46:01.180 Okay.
00:46:02.180 Folks.
00:46:03.180 Listen.
00:46:04.180 This has been the great area.
00:46:05.180 It's been a great show.
00:46:06.180 Right.
00:46:07.180 This has been the great area.
00:46:08.180 It's been a great show.