00:00:00.040Do you guys think that women date up or down? Up. I think depending on age. Okay
00:00:07.080so then what do you say up? I say up. Would you guys say up? Yeah. So how can we say women are the
00:00:14.520prize if they date up and men date down? That's a good question. That's a great question. You know
00:00:19.420that's an amazing question. I feel like the generation we're in now uh-huh I feel like
00:00:25.200everybody just has to date up because no no everybody can't. Someone's reaching every
00:00:33.600relationship someone likes the other more. Exactly. Someone's reaching someone's
00:00:37.200settling. Yeah. Okay go ahead. Personally I genuinely feel like where we are in this
00:00:41.580life here everything is so difficult. Yeah everything is getting worse and worse
00:00:46.560up. It's not check your friend zone. Wow that was a good one. It's not yeah. But I feel like a lot of my guy
00:00:54.240friends are compatible as friends and I'm not and I don't want to lose that. No no
00:00:57.900no you're not attracted to them like that. You like the attention. No I'm
00:01:03.180definitely attracted to some of my guy friends I just wouldn't want to go there.
00:01:06.120Would they want to go there with you? Possibly. However I just know that the
00:01:11.040boundaries and I'd rather I treasure the friendship I'm not I'm not trying to do
00:01:13.620that. Yeah yeah. Because more time if relationship ends up bad I've lost you as
00:01:16.680a friend. Yeah. And as that and if I value the friendship I feel like. But it can end up
00:01:20.280good. What the relationship? Happily ever after. That's the risk isn't it? Sounds quite
00:01:24.400pessimistic. Do you really see yourself having a lot of male friends once you
00:01:27.840get married? Is that really healthy? Oh no no no. That's not healthy. That's not healthy.
00:01:31.280It might end anyway. So what's the point of having them around? No but I just feel like
00:01:35.520I'd like in this day and age that you have I feel like a lot of people are mad. So what
00:01:40.980do you what do you what do you see as the problems in the dating market? The
00:01:43.800problems in the dating market I feel like everything has become so what can I get
00:01:48.560what can I get materialistic? And I feel like people aren't looking at character
00:01:51.740anymore. Do you think that's the men or the women? I think it's both. So you think
00:01:55.460it's the men? I feel like women have become this which means that the men don't
00:02:00.560even care anymore. It's like you want me for maybe materialistic things. Quite a
00:02:05.120few women so it's kind of like if that's all you look at me for then all right
00:02:08.780cool I'll take you your sister your auntie and then what do you could you
00:02:11.900explain that more? Okay so what I mean by that is there's a lot of guys who let's say
00:02:15.920faithfulness was something that let's say 10 years ago was key. Right now in
00:02:20.660this generation it's like nobody cares or quite a few people don't care if the
00:02:23.900guy's faithful or not as long as he's looking after them. So you've got a lot
00:02:26.720of men who maybe they were faithful growing up now it's like I don't even
00:02:29.900need to be faithful because I can get the 10 or the 12. Is that the fault of the men or the
00:02:33.160women though? That's what I'm saying it's the fault of the woman. Yeah yeah I agree with you. Oh yeah sorry I genuinely believe it's the fault of the women.
00:02:37.920It's like if you hand them a silver platter why would they not take it? And why do I need to be
00:02:42.660faithful spiritual distance if you're not even required? So why did you say women are the prize then?
00:02:48.900Because when you're growing up like I said from a young age you're pretty you're this you're that. I think when you get to a certain age you need to understand
00:02:55.660you need to understand the flower of your youth. When it's finished darling understand it's finished.
00:03:00.660However I feel like um naturally and you're you're taught today up because I just feel like
00:03:06.660he just needs to be the head of the household if that makes sense. So the head would mean he's up.
00:03:11.220Yeah so then he would be the prize. Yeah but that's what my answer was when you get to a certain age I
00:03:15.700feel like it flips. What age roughly? Me okay I think let's say 25 and up. 25 and up. 25 and up. I think after high
00:03:23.940school I'll be honest. No I agree with you. What do you think? I think I think men are always the prize because because the
00:03:30.020women the women that men want like 50 percent of women that hit 30 are single and childless.
00:03:36.100So so the most do you think men understand they're the prize from young? I think I think the small
00:03:40.820percentage of men do when they have when they have at their doorstep like from from the time they're
00:03:46.820from the time they're kid you know because it's only a very small percentage of men that get that
00:03:51.700and then you know the the women like the women that won't settle and I think they're gonna just
00:03:58.580gonna die alone. No seriously because yeah and they won't have kids and but fulfill their biological
00:04:05.380imperative. So you have to compromise right? Yeah I mean yeah but this is the thing like we compromise
00:04:11.700where it always benefits us and never benefits the men because when we compromise it's like at 30.
00:04:16.500Literally. Literally. And that's not what men want. It's a question clearly yeah. When you talked about
00:04:21.220the dating market do all the women on the panel believe that women are the problem with the dating
00:04:25.780market? No they contribute. They contribute 100 percent. They contribute because there's one can I just
00:04:31.860say this? Yeah grab. There's more women on the market in the dating market and how I would put it is
00:04:37.540everyone so a lot of women say they're the prize but they don't act like a prize so they're readily
00:04:43.380available if you're available to 25 men how are you a prize you're readily available I put it like
00:04:49.620this if you have a Rolex they don't advertise Rolex you know the value of it if you see a Ferrari they
00:04:55.940don't advertise that you know the value of it if you're on socials dating apps advertising yourself
00:05:01.940with no clothes you know trying to get male attention are you really a prize? But what that sounds like to me
00:05:07.860that sounds like a cognitive dissonance to me so like you think of one thing but you're not the
00:05:13.380other so that still goes back to the fact that women are potentially the problem in the dating
00:05:17.860market because of this delusion that they they carry I'm the prize yeah I deserve this and I deserve
00:05:22.580that yet really I'm not actually the prize like how can you be a prize at all if you're a virgin if
00:05:27.140you're not a virgin if you're not so much no I'm saying like back in the 19 in the 1950s like like
00:05:35.700you were a hoe if you if you slept with like two people I think men nowadays would pray for two
00:05:42.500and so it's like like what how are you a prize if you're not a virgin and so you're well the first of
00:05:48.020all that sorry the social parameters have changed okay we know this and we're acknowledging that's the
00:05:53.300case here in this but men haven't changed just because the social parameters have changed but
00:05:57.460the thing is the social the social parameters have changed to appease women and so so met but men have
00:06:02.420remained the same they want the same things women have changed no but as I said the social parameters
00:06:08.180have changed so the social parameters for men have changed and the social parameters for women have
00:06:13.060changed what do you mean what do you define social parameters so for example materialistically
00:06:18.660men are supposed to still provide be able to provide at a higher rate and at a faster rate
00:06:25.060from a younger age this is a social parameter change it's not realistic it is set out by women
00:06:30.980i agree but with the women with the ladies now a lot of us we have a materialistic approach
00:06:37.300to how we view men and when they can't provide that we get upset we don't actually look at like
00:06:43.580what you said the characteristics the moralistic values we don't look at actually when i look at
00:06:49.580this man do i see family because a lot of people they're they want uh financial benefits but they
00:06:57.420don't actually want family what does that make women the problem then yeah because men are the
00:07:02.460same like if anything more is expected of men as less is given to them because no go ahead go ahead
00:07:09.020i think that um we're getting married a lot later in life and that's you know part of it
00:07:15.660so like for example maybe 50 years ago getting married at age 16 to 18 might not have been a big
00:07:22.700deal whereas now when a when a a young woman wants to get married at 21 it's like are you ready for
00:07:29.820this you know have you finished uni yeah have you traveled there's there's so much that women are
00:07:35.340doing that they weren't doing 50 years ago that they're doing now and it's it's affecting the the
00:07:40.220age that people get married so that's gonna make women the problem yeah oh i never i never said women
00:07:47.020did you not say that they were the prize i said we're the prize when we're younger oh yeah yeah before
00:07:52.62040. and i'm curious have i heard much from you what do you think because i don't agree okay i feel like
00:07:58.220men are the problem okay tell me why tell me why because i'm young isn't it so i'm just thinking when
00:08:05.740i was younger women were always the one um more involved in the relationships men were always the
00:08:13.100one cheating treating the women wrong so that now i'm 21. all of us are tired at the age of 21. why did
00:08:20.780you pick them if you if you if women hate being cheated on why'd you pick the ones that cheat girls
00:08:27.980know you know early on that they're gonna cheat on you you know you know damn well what you know you
00:08:31.740know you know you know uh you know damn well you know damn well that that guy is capable of cheating
00:08:37.180so how that's how's that on him when you picked him do you know what after i finished with the guys
00:08:42.220that cheat i was not like let me go to a nice guy yeah but now you're but now you're a leftover for him
00:08:46.780oh but i was only like 18. look i'm not i'm not saying i'm just saying that's how men view it 18.
00:08:54.300i don't know i'm not gonna ask like what i'm just saying like i'm saying this is common so so you're
00:08:59.580young but i'm saying this is common where girls will go through the bad boys and the cheaters until
00:09:03.100they're 27 28 and then come to the nice guys who they've been rejecting the last decade right and
00:09:08.380saying take me oh i'm ready for you and they're like well now you're your chad's leftovers
00:09:14.220and i hate that but it's like how is that on them when we pick them because one out of three
00:09:20.060men are either virgins or haven't had sex in the last year so there's a lot of men that won't cheat
00:09:23.900on you you just don't want them look at me go look at your friend zone or go to go to you guys don't
00:09:34.620have talk do you guys have taco bell here you do go to go to taco bell ask the guy out behind the
00:09:39.260counter i bet you he won't cheat on you come on go ask him out