Louder with Crowder - #677 OBAMAGATE EXPOSED! | Gavin McInnes Guests

00:00:02.000 and the finding.

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00:00:08.000 the the mouth noises came back to bite you

00:00:12.000 the mouth noises came back to bite you the mouth noises came back to bite you

00:00:16.000 the mouth noises came back to bite you There is such a thing as environmental racism.

00:00:21.000 I'm crying out loud.

00:00:22.000 Oh Canada, I'll save you now!

00:00:25.000 Alright Brendan, what's going on?

00:00:27.000 What do you think about Gibby's pants?

00:00:30.000 I don't know, that's usually how my pants go.

00:00:33.000 Yes. Oh, yes it is.

00:00:36.000 Hey Steve, you know what she just proven?

00:00:38.000 Hmm?

00:00:39.000 There is such a thing as environmental racism.

00:00:42.000 I don't know what you're saying!

00:00:45.000 Shut up! You said it!

00:00:47.000 You said it wrong.

00:00:48.000 You know what this proves, Steven?

00:00:49.000 What?

00:00:49.000 White privilege does not exist.

00:00:51.000 Why do you keep calling this the Chinese virus?

00:01:18.000 The rest comes from China.

00:01:21.000 The rest comes from China.

00:01:23.000 Wuhan, where I keep a fire alive.

00:01:52.000 I love you.

00:01:54.000 Next to wet markets.

00:01:58.000 That's how we do.

00:02:02.000 But this time.

00:02:05.000 Something just escaped.

00:02:08.000 I just wanted to.

00:02:12.000 Sluts you are no.

00:02:14.000 Oops my bad I swear I never meant for this

00:02:23.000 I never meant Don't look at me that way

00:02:35.000 It was a Chinese mistake Don't look at me that way

00:02:48.000 It was a Chinese mistake Oh it was a mistake

00:02:54.000 Still seeing more cases every day.

00:02:57.000 And maybe that's a question you should ask China.

00:02:59.000 Don't ask me, ask the China Times.

00:03:01.000 When I'm in the wild, ha ha ha

00:03:07.000 pathogens get away.

00:03:11.000 Chinese blue.

00:03:13.000 I swear I never meant for this.

00:03:20.000 I never meant.

00:03:26.000 Don't look at me that way.

00:03:35.000 And it was a Chinese mistake.

00:03:38.000 Don't look at me that way.

00:03:46.000 It was a Chinese mistake.

00:03:50.000 An honest mistake.

00:03:53.000 Well, this current crisis is so big, it feels almost impossible.

00:03:56.000 It's like the planes go into the towers every day.

00:03:59.000 Don't look at me that way.

00:04:18.000 It was the tiniest mistake.

00:04:26.000 Don't look at me that way.

00:04:30.000 It was a Chinese mistake.

00:04:34.000 Try as I must, I...

00:04:38.000 I...

00:04:51.000 Thanks for watching!

00:04:57.000 That's what I know.

00:04:59.000 I know.

00:05:00.000 You're a strange animal.

00:05:01.000 I come to follow.

00:05:02.000 That's called a new technique I learned from my marriage therapist.

00:05:27.000 To stop interrupting, do this.

00:05:30.000 Physically.

00:05:32.000 The problem was I did it to my wife in public.

00:05:36.000 It's supposed to be on me!

00:05:40.000 Otherwise it's just domestic abuse.

00:05:43.000 It's pretty much very glad he's here after that intro, and that he took part.

00:05:46.000 My half-Asian lawyer, Bill Richman, is here.

00:05:47.000 How are you?

00:05:48.000 Hi.

00:05:48.000 Quarterback Garrett is here.

00:05:49.000 How are you?

00:05:49.000 He's a dog.

00:05:50.000 I don't like it.

00:05:50.000 Audio Wade.

00:05:51.000 Too cute Maddie.

00:05:52.000 She's so cute, it disgusts me.

00:05:53.000 We have Gavin McInnes on the show today.

00:05:55.000 That's true.

00:05:56.000 He will be on later on.

00:05:57.000 What's the wine of the day there, Gerald A?

00:05:58.000 Wine of the day is Woodward Canyon Chardonnay.

00:06:01.000 What's there on the bottle?

00:06:02.000 I hope nothing this time.

00:06:05.000 I'm just testing you.

00:06:07.000 I'm just making sure you're sturdy.

00:06:08.000 I know who did it.

00:06:09.000 Really?

00:06:09.000 I do.

00:06:10.000 You have no idea.

00:06:11.000 I do.

00:06:11.000 You told me!

00:06:12.000 What do you mean I have no idea?

00:06:13.000 Good for you, Peter Falk.

00:06:14.000 So, question of the day.

00:06:16.000 He's gonna walk in and go, you drew a dick on my wine bottle!

00:06:23.000 We're going to be talking about Mike Flynn a little bit here, and I know a lot of people haven't covered it.

00:06:31.000 I am so tired of Russia and the FBI, and I'm also tired of COVID, and so I just might swallow a knife.

00:06:37.000 Um, how big do you think Obamagate the scandal is going to be?

00:06:41.000 Or do you think it's just a false conspiracy that people have been pushing?

00:06:44.000 The truth is, Obamagate, and maybe there's some people who've thrown some false conspiracies under that umbrella, but the idea that there was spying, the idea that the FBI was used as a political arm, you know, for the outgoing administration, that's absolutely verifiably true.

00:06:58.000 Like, there's no doubt about that.

00:06:59.000 Like, why are we talking about that?

00:07:00.000 We're not saying that they have a sex ring in a pizza parlor!

00:07:04.000 We're just saying, you know, horrible presidents.

00:07:06.000 And the only thing worse than his presidency is post-presidency.

00:07:08.000 He's rivaling Jimmy Carter.

00:07:10.000 Continues to get worse.

00:07:11.000 One hell of a peanut farmer.

00:07:12.000 But first, can we agree that cats are just the worst but also funny?

00:07:17.000 Stop it!

00:07:19.000 Give me the guideline, I'm not a kid anymore. I'm a lecturer.

00:07:24.000 I'm a pilot. I made a hero for Rose. She's a mom. I'm a kid.

00:07:31.000 I'm so hungry, so...

00:07:33.000 Aw, hey.

00:07:34.000 Don't eat him.

00:07:35.000 Stop judging their culture.

00:07:37.000 No, I will judge their culture.

00:07:38.000 We eat pig, and George Clooney has them as pets.

00:07:40.000 Leading the news, apparently they're just as affectionate as dogs.

00:07:43.000 Have you heard that?

00:07:44.000 No.

00:07:45.000 They don't taste the same.

00:07:47.000 I don't really care.

00:07:48.000 I bet you if I met a pig that I cared about, I'd have a different opinion.

00:07:52.000 You'd still eat them.

00:07:54.000 I just avoid social functions that involve pigs.

00:07:57.000 Oh, well that should be pretty easy.

00:07:58.000 I'm not going to a swine mixer anytime soon.

00:08:00.000 No.

00:08:01.000 Leading the news, more Old Man jokes coming up.

00:08:04.000 Just so you know, I have horrible vertigo, so the camera's going like this.

00:08:07.000 If anyone has a cure out there, you know, not if you're an advisor to the Who, but a real doctor, Dr. Burks, is on my list that my wife has deemed acceptable for dinner.

00:08:21.000 She'll be present, but we can ignore it.

00:08:22.000 She's basically background furniture.

00:08:24.000 If she starts talking, I'll just go like this.

00:08:27.000 And then maybe like this.

00:08:29.000 Burt's just talking!

00:08:32.000 Leaving the news, uh, Florida, uh, Governor Ron DeSantis.

00:08:37.000 He was, this is just, it's incredible.

00:08:38.000 He was questioned by a reporter about his firing of this, you know, this woman who claimed that she was fired because she was trying to include valid data and the media picked up on this.

00:08:48.000 It was this whole kind of firestorm.

00:08:50.000 Uh, just, it's such an incredible response.

00:08:53.000 I had to include it today.

00:08:54.000 You just have me take that.

00:08:55.000 He doesn't know about it.

00:08:56.000 So let, let, let me just sort first.

00:08:59.000 Okay.

00:09:00.000 I know that you've addressed this before, but there's a question of why the state asked for a report date.

00:09:05.000 Right.

00:09:05.000 So first of all, okay, so one, she's not a data scientist.

00:09:10.000 She's somebody that's got a degree in journalism, communication, and geography.

00:09:15.000 She is not involved in collating any data.

00:09:17.000 She does not have the expertise to do that.

00:09:19.000 She is not an epidemiologist.

00:09:21.000 She is not The chief architect of our web portal.

00:09:26.000 That is another false statement.

00:09:27.000 And what she was doing was she was putting data on the portal which the scientists didn't believe was valid data.

00:09:34.000 So she didn't listen to the people who were her superiors.

00:09:37.000 She had many people above her in the chain of command.

00:09:40.000 And so then she was dismissed because of that and because of a bunch of different reasons about how she did.

00:09:46.000 Yeah, that's pretty rough.

00:09:47.000 Yeah, sorry about that.

00:09:48.000 Brutal.

00:09:48.000 He did everything except actually physically light her on fire.

00:09:52.000 Yeah.

00:09:53.000 Pretty much.

00:09:53.000 What do you do with a degree in geography?

00:09:55.000 What'd she do?

00:09:56.000 I don't know.

00:09:57.000 I don't know.

00:09:57.000 You know they're completely fired.

00:09:58.000 The maps are made.

00:10:00.000 Unreal.

00:10:01.000 We know all of them.

00:10:02.000 But that's a cartographer.

00:10:03.000 That's not a geographist.

00:10:04.000 That's true.

00:10:05.000 Do you know about rocks?

00:10:06.000 Hey, come on.

00:10:06.000 I haven't seen anyone put on notice that severely since Jesus and the fig tree.

00:10:11.000 Oh, wow.

00:10:15.000 Boy, Jesus is really laying into that fig tree.

00:10:20.000 Yeah, he can get a little moody, but, you know, he's got a lot on him.

00:10:24.000 Yeah, it's just one tree, though.

00:10:26.000 Yeah, but he's stressed.

00:10:30.000 He shouldn't be worrying about this.

00:10:31.000 I'm gonna say something.

00:10:34.000 Hey, Jesus, you know, this fig tree thing, really, it's not that big a deal.

00:10:39.000 Well, it's not just about the fig tree.

00:10:42.000 Right, I know, yeah.

00:10:43.000 You've got a lot on your plate, we can really just take care of the stuff for you.

00:10:46.000 It's allegorical is what I'm trying to say.

00:10:48.000 Right, but if you need some figs, if you really need some, we can just go get you some.

00:10:52.000 We can buy you figs.

00:10:53.000 You want figs?

00:10:54.000 We can go to the temple and buy you figs!

00:10:56.000 Hold on.

00:10:57.000 They're selling figs at the temple?

00:10:59.000 Yeah, where the Court of the Gentiles used to be.

00:11:01.000 Yeah.

00:11:02.000 Oh, there can be righteous anger.

00:11:21.000 It's true.

00:11:21.000 He doesn't like figs apparently.

00:11:23.000 No, he doesn't.

00:11:25.000 No, he loves figs.

00:11:26.000 He missed the story.

00:11:27.000 The whole point of the story is that Jesus loved figs.

00:11:31.000 Gerald's a Methodist.

00:11:32.000 He doesn't understand.

00:11:34.000 Hey, can I just point out, though, that we absolutely have to have Smooth Manny play Aladdin.

00:11:39.000 I mean, he looks like a beggar orphan.

00:11:42.000 It really did look like him as a 40-year-old homeless man.

00:11:45.000 Amazing.

00:11:46.000 With an unnecessary dreidel.

00:11:48.000 By the way, going back to this guy, DeSantis, talking about this girl, Rebecca, I forgot her last name.

00:11:54.000 There's an investigation into sexual harassment and cyber-stalking.

00:11:59.000 What?

00:11:59.000 From a woman.

00:12:00.000 Yeah, from her.

00:12:01.000 Oh my god.

00:12:02.000 And she was putting in data.

00:12:03.000 Here's the thing people don't understand.

00:12:05.000 They say, oh, why are they trying to silence voices of dissent?

00:12:07.000 And she's not a scientist.

00:12:08.000 And there was a chain of command where she would submit info, and the scientist would go, well, this doesn't work.

00:12:12.000 And she would say, well, I think it does.

00:12:13.000 We're the ones actually creating the data sets, and this is incorrect.

00:12:18.000 She's like, oh, really?

00:12:19.000 I'm going to tell everyone what you said.

00:12:21.000 Well, OK, you're fired.

00:12:22.000 And she's like, what?

00:12:23.000 She's expecting some kind of apology.

00:12:26.000 Classic millennial.

00:12:27.000 You're not the one putting it in.

00:12:30.000 Not how I thought this would end up.

00:12:33.000 They're looking for any reason.

00:12:34.000 Good news is you should probably make more unemployed right now than working.

00:12:38.000 So that's a silver lining.

00:12:41.000 You non-contributing hooligans in other news.

00:12:43.000 Geographist.

00:12:44.000 Popping, not popping, it's pooping.

00:12:46.000 Pooping?

00:12:47.000 I was saying popping in public is now a crime in North Idaho.

00:12:50.000 It's pooping though.

00:12:51.000 It's not popping.

00:12:52.000 There's just one guy with a Pringles can.

00:12:54.000 Oh, sh**!

00:12:55.000 The fun was about to not stop!

00:12:58.000 There's a gal on TikTok like, oh, oh no, I can't.

00:13:02.000 Can I lock?

00:13:03.000 But can I lock it still?

00:13:05.000 You can lock it, but I gotta set up the lock with the pot.

00:13:07.000 It's like, kind of like a jab.

00:13:09.000 Like, pop, pop, pop, lock, lock, lock, lock, lock, lock.

00:13:12.000 Pop has to proceed.

00:13:13.000 I don't know, is this the pop and this is the lock?

00:13:15.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:13:17.000 Cultural differences.

00:13:18.000 They know.

00:13:21.000 In other news, pooping in public is now a crime.

00:13:24.000 I was looking away because the camera's doing this to me.

00:13:28.000 It's smiling at me!

00:13:30.000 Pooping in public is now a crime in North Idaho, in a town.

00:13:33.000 So a recent string of calls, this comes from KTVB, that's a real thing.

00:13:38.000 A recent string of calls were made to Bonner's Ferry Police reporting that residents were leaving themselves in public spaces.

00:13:44.000 Bonner's fiery city attorney, Andrew K. Plewitt, said most of the incidents were intentional, almost like a punishment for the city closing public restrooms.

00:13:54.000 It's angry defecating.

00:13:56.000 It's pooping with malicious intent.

00:13:59.000 You know what?

00:14:00.000 If there was a cause I was going to get behind, besides saving you all the time, it would be making sure that this First Amendment right to protest with poop continues.

00:14:10.000 Yes!

00:14:11.000 You could do that.

00:14:12.000 They're admitting it.

00:14:12.000 It's a statement.

00:14:13.000 It's a protest.

00:14:13.000 A statement against the tyranny of government.

00:14:15.000 Do they need to determine the mens rea behind pooping?

00:14:18.000 Yeah, they do.

00:14:20.000 Figure how much did they grunt, were they smiling while they did it.

00:14:22.000 A defecation angle.

00:14:24.000 There's a lot of them.

00:14:26.000 The calls became so frequent that the city council decided to create the ordinance because current statutes do not cover defecation in public.

00:14:33.000 So in doing so, Bonners Ferry will, they're going to serve as sort of an experiment of the new policy with other counties watching closely, most notably including neighboring Sh**tsburg.

00:14:42.000 Wow.

00:14:44.000 They've been like, how do we deal with this problem?

00:14:47.000 We're just gonna outlaw shitting in public.

00:14:50.000 You can do that?

00:14:53.000 How do you not have regulations governing this?

00:14:55.000 Our founder George Shitsburg made that a tenet of this town!

00:15:00.000 You know, like, the city manager of San Francisco's like, outlawed, not gonna matter.

00:15:06.000 They're like, I'm never using legal Zoom again, dadgummit.

00:15:09.000 Welcome to hell.

00:15:10.000 What's next?

00:15:11.000 Banning people with verifiable HIV from donating blood?

00:15:14.000 These people.

00:15:20.000 A Georgia man, by the way, and that's how you know it's a state, because otherwise it would be Georgin, and they would be annexed by Russia.

00:15:28.000 I don't know what annex means, but it sounds severe.

00:15:30.000 A Georgia man was caught having sex with a dead woman outside of a shelter.

00:15:36.000 Don't react.

00:15:36.000 You knew this story anyway.

00:15:38.000 Deputies found the man in the middle of the act before discovering the woman had been deceased for some time.

00:15:45.000 Are we sure this is not Florida?

00:15:46.000 Georgia, you just had to reopen first.

00:15:50.000 This is what you get, Georgia.

00:15:51.000 Dammit, this is what you get!

00:15:53.000 It should be noted, though, that while in Georgia they've been, of course, among the first to ease social distancing guidelines, sex with dead bodies is still frowned upon.

00:16:02.000 So that's just our guidelines for you.

00:16:05.000 No new laws need to be passed on that one.

00:16:07.000 Don't worry, Uncle Stephen's got your back.

00:16:10.000 Sex with dead bodies is still frowned upon.

00:16:15.000 You imagine that phone call to the attorney?

00:16:16.000 What are you in for?

00:16:17.000 Well, I had sex with a dead lady.

00:16:22.000 How do you defend that?

00:16:23.000 Even on the Green Mile with the most hardened, violent, murdering criminals, they would hear that story and just shift in their seats.

00:16:31.000 Exactly.

00:16:32.000 And then finally, a tarot card reader, this is at Huffington Post, and I just had to find a way to include it, shared some of her experiences during the pandemic.

00:16:39.000 This is a whole op-ed, which I don't know why Huffington Post is still a thing.

00:16:45.000 You know what people need right now?

00:16:46.000 The opinion of tarot card readers.

00:16:49.000 She said that mostly people are seeking guidance over love and money during the lockdown, and they crave human contact, which is hard to overcome sometimes.

00:16:58.000 Step right up!

00:16:59.000 showing that COVID really has touched everyone, now with charlatans, television preachers,

00:17:03.000 and salesmen of actual snake oil relegated to online super chats.

00:17:08.000 Step right up, step right up!

00:17:10.000 This oil of viper shall quell whatever ails you, from rheumatism to melancholia, I guarantee it!

00:17:16.000 Ah!

00:17:17.000 Ebenezer44 asks, will this help with your rickets?

00:17:23.000 Why, it will positively cure it!

00:17:25.000 What are rickets, is what you will be asking me after you try my oil!

00:17:31.000 I thank you for such generosity, Jedediah 56.

00:17:33.000 56 pieces of silver oh my I know what you're after it's sad really so quickly so says capitalism needs bounds

00:17:53.000 There ain't room enough in this town for the four of our nuts.

00:17:59.000 That's good.

00:17:59.000 I just have one.

00:18:01.000 Oh, okay.

00:18:02.000 Three's a crowd.

00:18:03.000 Who's the trivia contest winner, by the way, from last night?

00:18:04.000 Trivia contest winner is Renee at Bush69Renee.

00:18:08.000 Wow, I can't believe that's a natural person.

00:18:09.000 She correctly identified the ISIS representative as our first guest on the morning show.

00:18:14.000 Yeah.

00:18:16.000 Who picked that screen name?

00:18:17.000 There's gotta be somebody else who won.

00:18:19.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:18:21.000 We're giving Cenk another trivia win?

00:18:25.000 He knows this show so well.

00:18:27.000 He's very good with the screen names.

00:18:29.000 And you know, it's not that hard to screen.

00:18:30.000 Just check for a Hotmail address.

00:18:33.000 That's how you know it's Cenk.

00:18:34.000 He still uses Hotmail.

00:18:36.000 We owe everybody an apology who's watching right now.

00:18:38.000 I don't.

00:18:39.000 No apologies.

00:18:40.000 Just Gerald.

00:18:43.000 I don't because Donald Trump doesn't.

00:18:45.000 Let me ask you this.

00:18:46.000 Do you think that Donald Trump ever apologized?

00:18:48.000 Since Ted Cruz, do you think he ever apologized to Ted Cruz for telling him that his dad was involved in assassinating JFK?

00:18:54.000 I'm confident they had.

00:18:56.000 I can only imagine it was a very awkward conversation.

00:18:58.000 Every conversation.

00:18:59.000 Because they're friends.

00:19:01.000 Those are pretty severe.

00:19:02.000 It's pretty bad.

00:19:03.000 I will come to work for you if you admit that you were wrong about my dad and JFK.

00:19:08.000 Well, I didn't say it.

00:19:09.000 Someone else was telling me that.

00:19:11.000 I didn't say it.

00:19:11.000 I said someone told me that my dad did not kill JFK.

00:19:14.000 Okay, listen, you're right.

00:19:15.000 Then I'll tell that guy he's wrong.

00:19:17.000 I will tell the person who told me that that he is wrong.

00:19:20.000 If I walk this back, I'll look like an idiot.

00:19:22.000 Yes.

00:19:23.000 If I walk this back, let me tell you, okay?

00:19:26.000 They smell blood and they swore.

00:19:28.000 I would publicly say that Heidi Cruz has a good face, but that would be bad for you.

00:19:38.000 I made mistakes.

00:19:39.000 You made mistakes.

00:19:41.000 We both made mistakes.

00:19:42.000 Let's not spend time rehashing the past about whose face looks like what.

00:19:48.000 Whose dad killed who.

00:19:53.000 Let's go back to meeting America.

00:19:56.000 And Senator Cruz says, okay.

00:20:02.000 I hope we still get good guests.

00:20:04.000 Hi Senator Cruz!

00:20:09.000 The thing is, I think that's actually what it went like.

00:20:11.000 100% accurate.

00:20:13.000 This is the news portion.

00:20:17.000 Okay, so let's talk about Mike Flynn.

00:20:19.000 I know GL's been following it really closely.

00:20:21.000 I have, yes.

00:20:22.000 I have been following it closely, and I will tell you, I don't care.

00:20:25.000 Not that I don't care.

00:20:26.000 I have fatigue in the sense that when this happened with Russia, I was always saying, all right, after the first two months, I said, this isn't going to go anywhere.

00:20:34.000 It's a crock.

00:20:34.000 They're going to keep trotting out new information that's inconsequential.

00:20:38.000 He'll probably be impeached.

00:20:39.000 It won't go to the Senate.

00:20:40.000 Nothing will happen.

00:20:40.000 In this case, sure, Obama did horrible stuff.

00:20:43.000 Do I think he's going to be charged?

00:20:44.000 No.

00:20:45.000 No, where's it going to go?

00:20:46.000 So let's just give you what you need to know so you understand the corruption at play.

00:20:50.000 That being said, you don't need to always know every single new development because it gets to the point where you're so granular it's hard to understand the scope of it.

00:20:59.000 Here's the scope of it.

00:21:00.000 An outgoing administration spied and used the FBI as a political arm to try and get a man in jail.

00:21:07.000 It should scare the hell out of most everybody.

00:21:08.000 It should scare the hell out of most everybody.

00:21:11.000 Let me give you a little more info now.

00:21:13.000 The Justice Department, so they obviously, you know, they dropped the charges against Michael Flynn, and now the attention is turned to how Barack Obama, the outgoing administration, how they sort of unfairly, or some people allege, illegally targeted Trump's administration.

00:21:27.000 So, of course, you have people on the left in the media, basically everyone outside of here and some radio shows, reporting on this.

00:21:35.000 The whole thing, like I said, the whole umbrella, which is a real disservice to Americans as a conspiracy theory.

00:21:39.000 It's so disappointing to look at what we're seeing from right-wing media these days, where there's such an obsession with the deep state and these revelations about the national probe.

00:21:46.000 Don't you wish you were watching Poppy Harlow right now?

00:21:48.000 Trust us, this will be some real people watching, please.

00:21:51.000 They're treating the Michael Flynn story like it's a bigger deal than the deaths of 2000 people.

00:21:55.000 When the president called his new Fox & Friends the other morning, Friday morning,

00:21:58.000 right before the unemployment rate numbers came out, he talked about the Flynn case for 20 minutes.

00:22:03.000 Those happy days are here again, with a brand new conspiracy

00:22:07.000 that Trump and Fox News are calling...

00:22:10.000 Obamagate.

00:22:11.000 Some terrible things happened that should never be allowed to happen in our country again.

00:22:16.000 And you'll be seeing what's going on over the coming weeks, and I wish you'd write honestly about it, but unfortunately, you choose not to do so.

00:22:23.000 We'll see what happens.

00:22:25.000 You'll see what it is.

00:22:26.000 It's coming out in the next few weeks.

00:22:28.000 You know what it is.

00:22:29.000 I don't.

00:22:30.000 Can you tell us?

00:22:32.000 I can't, actually.

00:22:35.000 You know, Obamagate is a phrase that seems to have no meaning except to tag his predecessor with some very nebulous scandal.

00:22:46.000 By the way, before you accuse me of fake news, that last guy was actually a character Andy Kindler is working on, an anti-Semitic character for Upright Citizens Brigade.

00:22:55.000 So that makes a little bit more sense to me.

00:22:57.000 I can't tell you.

00:22:59.000 I do enjoy the lowering of the bar of journalism.

00:23:01.000 Never have I ever thought that I could be so successful in journalism by just going, Well, do you know?

00:23:06.000 No, I don't know.

00:23:06.000 It's literally your job to know.

00:23:09.000 Tonight at 9 o'clock, none of us know.

00:23:11.000 Seems that information would have made it through with my executive producer, senior producer, line producer, and or booker, but apparently we're all f***ed.

00:23:19.000 So, what's going on?

00:23:21.000 I'm just angry that Trump is going after my husband, so I had to do this segment.

00:23:25.000 You think they might want to report?

00:23:26.000 Maybe do some investigation?

00:23:28.000 Figure out what it is?

00:23:29.000 No, they'll just bag on James O'Keefe when he does it.

00:23:31.000 And then Mika's calling Twitter.

00:23:34.000 Did you see that yesterday?

00:23:35.000 She said, you need to ban Donald Trump and I'm going to make some calls.

00:23:41.000 She said she was going to call the manager on Twitter.

00:23:44.000 I think she actually used that word.

00:23:46.000 Yeah, she actually said that.

00:23:48.000 I'm going to call the manager.

00:23:49.000 She called him Garcon.

00:23:50.000 He's Mr. Garcon Dorsey to you.

00:23:52.000 You don't call him Garcon.

00:23:55.000 It's Mark Zuckerberg, hey you, Mika.

00:23:57.000 So let's go through this.

00:23:58.000 Since they're so puzzled, let's kind of lay out the timeline.

00:24:00.000 The Obama-era FBI, right?

00:24:01.000 They were out to get Flynn from the beginning.

00:24:04.000 They listened to his phone calls while he was on vacation, which would later be used in really what amounts to a perjury trap.

00:24:11.000 The goal was getting Flynn to be fired or to be imprisoned.

00:24:14.000 So Bill Priestap, who's a doctor, is a doctor, boss of Stroke.

00:24:18.000 Yeah.

00:24:19.000 Strozeka?

00:24:19.000 I was about to say, how do you pronounce that?

00:24:21.000 Streizek?

00:24:22.000 I don't know.

00:24:22.000 That's why I don't trust him.

00:24:24.000 If anybody's Russian, it's him.

00:24:25.000 The notes read, what is our goal, truth slash admission, to get him, or to get him to lie so we can prosecute or get him fired, question mark.

00:24:33.000 Now I understand that's been shared out of context and they've tried to counter-argue that, so let's go on down the list.

00:24:37.000 The FBI, they were moving to close the investigation early 2017 because they didn't find anything, and then Pete Stroke interviewed some people, and then he intervened actually to make sure the operation continued.

00:24:50.000 with the FBI. So they were going, ah, there's nothing here, we're going to close it. Then he

00:24:53.000 personally stepped in and said, no, no, no, we're going to, we're going to make sure that we find

00:24:56.000 something. So really what did it amount to? That's kind of the, hopefully, does that, people

00:24:59.000 understand the timeline, the tapping calls, what they were doing with Flynn and what it amounted

00:25:05.000 to what? Okay. Two lies.

00:25:07.000 That he didn't actually ask the Russian ambassador to refrain, to not respond to sanctions that were being imposed by Barack Obama.

00:25:14.000 And then he said that he only asked how Russia would vote on a resolution that involved Israel, but apparently he actually asked them to vote against or delay the resolution, which, by the way, is not entirely outside the realm of his job.

00:25:26.000 Yeah, well, no, that's something that he's supposed to be doing.

00:25:28.000 And so the FBI is collecting all of this data.

00:25:31.000 By the way, this is the same Strzok guy who texts Lisa Page, right, if you guys remember when all that stuff came out.

00:25:36.000 No, referring to Donald Trump becoming president.

00:25:38.000 No, we will stop it.

00:25:40.000 Yeah, right.

00:25:40.000 So this guy has obvious bias going back.

00:25:43.000 He keeps the case open.

00:25:44.000 He's also really bad at stopping things.

00:25:45.000 Yes, he is.

00:25:46.000 Don't put him in Goal 10!

00:25:47.000 He can't stop anything.

00:25:49.000 And he basically said, look, I know you guys are closing this case.

00:25:52.000 And the FBI was like, they were like, hey, we're closing this.

00:25:55.000 There's no good information here for us to continue.

00:25:57.000 We have to stop legally at this point.

00:25:59.000 If there's any new information, we will evaluate it then to see if we need to open it.

00:26:02.000 He's like, he sends them a text that day.

00:26:04.000 If you haven't closed it, don't.

00:26:06.000 Right.

00:26:06.000 And keeps this thing open.

00:26:07.000 You're telling me that guy doesn't have bias?

00:26:09.000 Come on.

00:26:09.000 That should terrify Americans.

00:26:11.000 It should!

00:26:11.000 It's like a middle school ex-girlfriend, ex-boyfriend that's like, no, no, no, let's just give it one more chance, guys.

00:26:16.000 I'm sure we can find love or liability here.

00:26:19.000 Just keep it open.

00:26:20.000 Just keep it open.

00:26:22.000 You have to remember what all of this came from was the whole Russian investigation.

00:26:25.000 They were saying Russia meddled with the election, the Obama administration, in retaliation for them dumping all of Hillary's emails, essentially, put sanctions on them, kicked out 35 of their people, and then closed down two of their vacationing places in the United States for some of their employees.

00:26:40.000 And that's what he was talking to the ambassador about.

00:26:42.000 It's like, hey, don't respond to those guys.

00:26:44.000 There's no evidence for this.

00:26:45.000 We'll do a different thing when we get in.

00:26:47.000 Shut down the vacation.

00:26:48.000 You would have caught more criminals if you did that with the cardinals.

00:26:50.000 Just shut down their beach houses, you'll have more to prosecute.

00:26:53.000 It was weird, it was like, yeah, this is for their ambassadors and also for, uh... Uh, McCarrick, can we have a word with you for a second?

00:26:57.000 Spies.

00:26:57.000 Aw, crap!

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00:27:11.000 We don't have a $100 million deal with Spotify, but good for you, Rogan.

00:27:14.000 Hey, and as the guy with the Face for Radio podcast, I'm so much better on the podcast.

00:27:20.000 Oh, stop it.

00:27:21.000 You're looking adorable.

00:27:22.000 Whenever you smile, it's awesome.

00:27:23.000 Well, he got a haircut, though, and he got a little bit of color, so now he looks a little Malaysian.

00:27:27.000 Looks a little darker.

00:27:28.000 I was going to say Nepalese, but I'll go Malaysian.

00:27:31.000 I don't know enough about the Nepalese.

00:27:33.000 Call the police.

00:27:34.000 You got a haircut?

00:27:36.000 Let's keep going down the list.

00:27:36.000 This is so boring.

00:27:40.000 Agents didn't even think that, if you think, well, you think maybe Flynn was lying.

00:27:44.000 Agents didn't think Flynn was lying.

00:27:46.000 In 2017, Comey testified, the interviewing, uh, he, uh, yeah, the interviewing agents, that Flynn had not made intentional misstatements, right?

00:27:54.000 That they had concluded these guys testified.

00:27:56.000 Comey, anytime he shows up, you go, people just go, sh**.

00:28:00.000 And I used to feel bad for him because I thought he was hated by the left and he was hated by the right, but you've, Comey, you've earned this.

00:28:06.000 Yeah, he screwed up in every way possible, I think.

00:28:08.000 Then Comey later denied this, but Washington Post even fact-checked him on it, whatever it is.

00:28:14.000 Do they do Pinocchios in the Truth-O-Meter?

00:28:15.000 WAPO fact-checked him?

00:28:15.000 Yeah, Washington Post.

00:28:16.000 Wow.

00:28:17.000 And you know they really didn't want you.

00:28:18.000 They're like, ugh, we have to do this.

00:28:19.000 That was really hard for them.

00:28:21.000 They're like, ugh, it's a lie, but can we hit fall?

00:28:24.000 It hurts!

00:28:25.000 It burns!

00:28:27.000 We'll write a terrible story.

00:28:28.000 Wait, we always do that.

00:28:29.000 You know, the key part of that is that the media, the entire story there is based on denying what Comey said was just missed recollections as opposed to intentional lies.

00:28:41.000 Because every time it's reported about Flynn, there's no acknowledgment that the person investigating, a person who is typically on their side, when it comes to Trump or Trump officials said, no, I just

00:28:51.000 thought it was a mistake.

00:28:51.000 Right. It was, you know, he did, he does a lot of things and he didn't remember that

00:28:54.000 particular thing. It wasn't an intentional lie, but the story that still is remembered

00:28:58.000 over and over again, or at least posited or asserted is, Oh, it was an intentional lie.

00:29:03.000 He was intentionally covering up or they just don't even get to the lies part at all. Just

00:29:07.000 blaring headline, ignore the substance.

00:29:08.000 Which also I would ask you more indicative of someone who doesn't really think they're

00:29:12.000 being criminally investigated on a serious level, misremembering.

00:29:14.000 Because people get their stories airtight when they're trying to proactively lie.

00:29:18.000 It's not like, uh, I don't know, I think I turned the iron off.

00:29:22.000 I don't know!

00:29:24.000 Guilty!

00:29:25.000 You know?

00:29:26.000 House burned down, sorry about that.

00:29:27.000 So, yeah, you have done that.

00:29:29.000 Just twice.

00:29:30.000 Here's another one.

00:29:31.000 Flynn, by the way, people, and this was my primary question early on, and I asked Donald Trump Jr.

00:29:36.000 when we were doing the CNN stream, because at this point we didn't have all the information.

00:29:40.000 I said, okay, if he is innocent, why did the guy plead guilty?

00:29:44.000 And you know this probably, people don't always plead guilty because they're guilty.

00:29:46.000 Sure, absolutely.

00:29:48.000 I mean, the entire system is set up to be an adversarial system, right?

00:29:51.000 So the prosecutors are literally, their job is to be aggressive in doing what they're doing to achieve the end, right?

00:29:58.000 And then by the same point, you know, defense attorneys have to do the same thing.

00:30:01.000 And when you're, you know, I don't do criminal law, but when you're, the same thing applies both civil and criminal.

00:30:05.000 If you are trying to get to an end, And there's going to be a worse harm than pleading guilty.

00:30:10.000 People plead guilty all the time, even if they hadn't done that particular act that they're accused of.

00:30:15.000 Or maybe they did something, you know, related, but not as gross of a violation.

00:30:19.000 Like they did leave the ironing on, and they don't want to pay the piper.

00:30:21.000 Sure.

00:30:22.000 So maybe they left the ironing on, but someone else was smoking in bed, right?

00:30:25.000 I mean, they could just be like, yeah, I did, but that wasn't actually what led, but fine.

00:30:29.000 Or eating in bed, and that's how they took out the mamas and the papas.

00:30:32.000 It's a tragedy.

00:30:33.000 Too soon and too heavy.

00:30:37.000 So Flynn did plead.

00:30:37.000 Would we say that it's severe in that they threatened to go after Flynn's son?

00:30:41.000 Because that's why he pled guilty.

00:30:43.000 So they wouldn't prosecute his son.

00:30:44.000 Right.

00:30:45.000 And so this is a coercive action, right?

00:30:47.000 So at this point, you can really make the case and kind of paint this picture that the FBI has gone further than they should have gone.

00:30:53.000 And the only way to make any of this seem legitimate is to keep applying pressure and get him to plead guilty.

00:30:59.000 Because at that point, he's pled guilty, he's convicted, that's all that we need to put in the headline.

00:31:03.000 You can put, FBI did something wrong, but wait, well this guy pled guilty, so they were right, so it's okay.

00:31:07.000 It's not okay.

00:31:09.000 They broke their own rules in doing this, and they broke the law doing this, right?

00:31:13.000 You can't force somebody by coercion to plead guilty in a case like this when you shouldn't have been investigating him in the first place.

00:31:19.000 Oh, by the way.

00:31:19.000 And say it's okay.

00:31:20.000 Speaking of breaking the law.

00:31:21.000 You can't do that, but you can't say it's okay.

00:31:22.000 I need to say, I completely forgot.

00:31:23.000 Speaking of breaking the law, we will not be in Lansing Michigan State Capitol on Friday.

00:31:27.000 I'll let the cat out of the bag.

00:31:28.000 What we were planning all along was we were going to actually go offer haircuts for free for donations, but we were going to properly social distance, so we had shears on pool cues, and we had clippers on a broomstick.

00:31:38.000 Did you practice?

00:31:38.000 And a super soaker.

00:31:39.000 No.

00:31:41.000 I had a megaphone for small talk, but then the Michigan barbers, all concerned about their livelihoods, did a protest yesterday that was far less funny, and they only got some tickets, so we couldn't do it.

00:31:54.000 We'll actually do a segment on it next week where you can showcase all your props.

00:31:56.000 I built all that stuff.

00:31:57.000 So much work, tickets booked.

00:32:00.000 Oh, what a week.

00:32:01.000 Let's finalize up the Flynn thing so I never have to talk about it again.

00:32:04.000 So Biden, by the way, this is also important because this man is running for president.

00:32:08.000 And this is obviously concerning, along with sniffing small children.

00:32:16.000 For me.

00:32:18.000 That's a personal thing, by the way.

00:32:20.000 You do you.

00:32:21.000 But when I have the choice between someone who sniffs small children and asks for a minute alone with them, and one who does not, Personal preference, I choose the one who doesn't.

00:32:32.000 I don't know why.

00:32:32.000 Call me old-fashioned.

00:32:34.000 Narrow-minded.

00:32:35.000 It's prejudice.

00:32:37.000 You know what?

00:32:38.000 It's a blind spot for me, and I'm working on it.

00:32:40.000 I am a little closed-minded when it comes to people who repeatedly sniff children.

00:32:43.000 Yeah, it's a close-ended issue for me.

00:32:46.000 Used to be abortion, now it's sniffing kids.

00:32:48.000 Sorry Biden.

00:32:49.000 You change over time.

00:32:50.000 The forecast does not look good.

00:32:51.000 So Joe Biden, Vice President, former Vice President Joe Biden and early onset dementia example, has said repeatedly that he knew nothing about the Flynn investigation.

00:33:02.000 So what did you know about those moves to investigate Michael Flynn and was there anything improper done?

00:33:09.000 I know nothing about those moves to investigate Michael Flynn, number one.

00:33:13.000 Number two, this is all about diversion.

00:33:15.000 I was aware that they asked for an investigation, but that's all I know about it, and I don't think anything else.

00:33:22.000 By the way, there is no follow-up.

00:33:24.000 He just said, I don't think anything else!

00:33:27.000 Ever!

00:33:28.000 He's like, please end the interview.

00:33:29.000 That's all I have to say.

00:33:31.000 His handler's like, I thought this was going to be a one-question interview, and I would like to think something else, but I can't think anything else.

00:33:31.000 I'm not capable!

00:33:44.000 The sad part is he really just wanted, you know how you're highly specific, right?

00:33:47.000 It makes you think, oh, it's a lie, or it seems more logistically true.

00:33:53.000 But he actually just wanted to say, I don't know anything.

00:33:55.000 Yeah, I know.

00:33:56.000 It's a cry for help.

00:33:57.000 But instead, he had just some little synapses.

00:34:00.000 They started firing.

00:34:01.000 And so he's like, oh, wait, Hogan's Heroes?

00:34:03.000 I know nothing!

00:34:04.000 There we go.

00:34:05.000 What did you say?

00:34:06.000 I said I know nothing!

00:34:08.000 Did you say you know nothing?

00:34:09.000 I said nothing.

00:34:10.000 You said nothing.

00:34:11.000 Are you doing the guard from Hogan's Heroes?

00:34:13.000 I can't think anything else.

00:34:15.000 This man wants to be leader of the free world.

00:34:22.000 By the way, what he just did on camera was worse than what Flynn did.

00:34:26.000 Flynn was convicted of something.

00:34:29.000 Okay, so now, by the way, in case there was some foreshadowing, it's been revealed by documents that we have.

00:34:37.000 There's a dozen Obama officials, including Biden and CIA Director John Brennan, that they requested the unmasking of Michael Flynn in intelligence reports.

00:34:37.000 We can bring up an overlay.

00:34:46.000 So it wasn't just that they were involved or they knew, they were the ones who made the request.

00:34:50.000 Now, here's my question.

00:34:51.000 I know you have a point, but here's my question, Bill, because we're kind of in this right now where we used to be with the Hillary Clinton emails.

00:34:58.000 And a lot of people just sort of would speculate.

00:34:59.000 They didn't really know.

00:35:00.000 When Joe Biden says, I know nothing, I know nothing!

00:35:05.000 And now we verifiably can see that he was actually the one who requested it.

00:35:10.000 What ramifications are there, if any, criminally?

00:35:14.000 None.

00:35:14.000 None?

00:35:14.000 Probably none.

00:35:15.000 Well, let me explain why there's none criminally, because he wasn't under oath there.

00:35:20.000 If you were going to go the perjury route, or could he have been questioned about it?

00:35:25.000 But in terms of an actual criminal penalty, I mean, no one's listening to it.

00:35:29.000 Was it Stephanopoulos that was asking the question?

00:35:30.000 I don't know.

00:35:31.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:35:32.000 Nobody's watching that anyway.

00:35:33.000 But it doesn't have the place, right?

00:35:34.000 There are different penalties for telling a lie outside of a court or not under oath, and there is under oath.

00:35:39.000 Yeah.

00:35:39.000 But if he were to say what he just said under oath, would it be a problem?

00:35:42.000 That would be a big problem.

00:35:43.000 Let's get him under oath!

00:35:44.000 Like if he were ever to show up to a debate, you know, if he were to remember anything.

00:35:48.000 But if he were to say what he just said under oath, would it be a problem?

00:35:51.000 That would be a big problem.

00:35:52.000 Let's get him under oath.

00:35:53.000 He's not going to remember that.

00:35:54.000 No, he'll do it again.

00:35:55.000 He'll show up in front of a jury and be like, I know nothing that we've seen this act before.

00:36:00.000 Guilty.

00:36:00.000 I should have thought something else.

00:36:03.000 But you know exactly what's going to happen is he's going to start doing some of the things that he's complaining about Trump doing, right?

00:36:08.000 He's going to say, well, you're not coming to, well, I can't come testify.

00:36:12.000 I'm busy with other things.

00:36:13.000 No, he can't open my records.

00:36:14.000 Just like with Terry Reid, right?

00:36:15.000 He's like, no.

00:36:16.000 You know, I know that I gave all of these records to a university, so they're already not, you know, completely private, but I don't want anyone else looking.

00:36:23.000 God forbid we actually look at the allegations.

00:36:26.000 Sir, you didn't send your record.

00:36:27.000 You just sent a Dexter's Lab booklet of scratch-and-sniff stickers.

00:36:31.000 He's like, I didn't mean to send that.

00:36:33.000 Please send them back.

00:36:34.000 Oh no, the Deedee page.

00:36:38.000 In my opinion, here's the reason that we should all care about this.

00:36:40.000 The media is focusing on the wrong thing.

00:36:42.000 That was so disgusting!

00:36:47.000 I tried to move on as though nothing happened.

00:36:48.000 I'm trying to turn away from the cameras giving me this weird wavy vertigo.

00:36:53.000 So the media is focusing on this saying it's a conspiracy theory and they're saying it's because of the unmasking and so every article that you read right now is talking about, oh, unmasking happens thousands of times.

00:37:02.000 Okay, that's true.

00:37:03.000 You know, people do have unmasking requests all the time.

00:37:05.000 Fine.

00:37:06.000 They also say, oh, the email that Rice sent after the meeting with Obama is totally normal.

00:37:10.000 Okay, well, that's fine.

00:37:11.000 That's not where my problem is.

00:37:13.000 My problem is in them continuing the investigation after they knew that there was nothing there, right?

00:37:18.000 So that changes into something else.

00:37:19.000 And the reason that I say it's something else like spying or something like that, people throw that out there, I don't know what it is, but I know this.

00:37:26.000 When Hillary Clinton was being warned by the FBI, they had a meeting with her to say, hey, somebody's trying to actively hack into your emails and get this information out.

00:37:34.000 They warned her, right?

00:37:36.000 They would brief her to stop that.

00:37:38.000 If Donald Trump's administration was being compromised by Russia and Russian agents, Don't you think that they should go meet with Donald Trump and say, hey, somebody is trying to recruit assets within the U.S.

00:37:50.000 government, in your administration.

00:37:51.000 You have to be careful.

00:37:52.000 They never had that meeting with him.

00:37:53.000 I'll be honest, I listened to maybe 30% of what you just said.

00:37:55.000 That's okay.

00:37:56.000 That's okay.

00:37:56.000 That's a big deal though, right?

00:37:57.000 I'm sure it was great.

00:37:58.000 Because it just shows a pattern of behavior.

00:38:00.000 Here's the other thing.

00:38:02.000 They pulled this out in the Senate Judiciary Committee meeting.

00:38:05.000 Please make it interesting.

00:38:06.000 It will be interesting.

00:38:06.000 You can see his eyelids.

00:38:10.000 They went to brief Hillary Clinton on a situation, and they went to brief Donald Trump on a situation.

00:38:14.000 I follow.

00:38:16.000 They did not send somebody to brief the Trump administration.

00:38:19.000 Wait, you just said they sent, or did they not send?

00:38:20.000 They did.

00:38:21.000 But the person that they sent was actually there to spy on them, and he said it.

00:38:24.000 He said, I went there to determine if there was anything else going on, not to brief these guys.

00:38:28.000 Did someone pass out a 21 flavors last night?

00:38:31.000 Was it Peter Strunk or Peter Gabriel?

00:38:32.000 It was not Peter Strunk.

00:38:33.000 It was definitely not.

00:38:34.000 Did this all happen in your eyes?

00:38:36.000 It did.

00:38:37.000 What is going on here?

00:38:38.000 And that is a valid point.

00:38:39.000 These are all really crappy things.

00:38:41.000 Don't be like me.

00:38:42.000 Now, the reason I'm exhausted with it is because we work in this sphere.

00:38:46.000 And really, you could probably take about three pieces of information.

00:38:49.000 And you would have enough of the picture.

00:38:52.000 And this is why the media focuses on these things.

00:38:55.000 This is exactly why you see Brian Stelter after nothing but Russian collusion for months.

00:39:01.000 Really, for the entire administration.

00:39:02.000 You're talking about years.

00:39:03.000 I'm actually underplaying it by saying months.

00:39:05.000 And now saying, with coronavirus, after impeachment didn't stick, that Republicans are obsessed with Russia.

00:39:11.000 Why don't you move on?

00:39:12.000 That's my Brian Stelter.

00:39:14.000 Richard Simmons?

00:39:15.000 Can you puff out your cheeks a little more?

00:39:17.000 No, I can't.

00:39:19.000 I mean, maybe I'll be more swollen after this.

00:39:20.000 Can you gain 200 pounds?

00:39:24.000 I'm not a method actor.

00:39:26.000 And I'm not that committed to this show.

00:39:28.000 Oh.

00:39:29.000 Gotta know where the line is.

00:39:30.000 Felt like Brian Stelter.

00:39:31.000 About as committed as Brian Stelter.

00:39:33.000 No, he goes out and they talk about this and they go, oh, now we want to distract people with Russia.

00:39:36.000 For the longest time, they wanted to keep this going to get as granular as possible because they know you can't keep track of it.

00:39:43.000 They know it's exhausting.

00:39:45.000 And they know that most Americans want to get a snapshot, want to get a macro picture.

00:39:49.000 And I don't mean that you shouldn't be informed.

00:39:50.000 Of course you should inform yourself.

00:39:51.000 You should get as granular as you can.

00:39:54.000 You should be as informed as possible.

00:39:56.000 But there's a lot of information out there that is unnecessary because it's either completely untrue, as we've seen with the Mike Flynn case.

00:40:02.000 In other words, everything that we knew, everything that we knew about Mike Flynn up until the last month, Pretty much false.

00:40:09.000 And it was drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip.

00:40:12.000 Like a Chinese water torture for a long time to the point where you go, well, we must accept it as true.

00:40:16.000 And then you get tired and you're not paying attention anymore.

00:40:19.000 And unless there was someone like a bar here to kind of reveal this, you would have gone on your merry way, thinking that Flynn was guilty of borderline treason.

00:40:27.000 And it's not true.

00:40:28.000 That's by design.

00:40:30.000 Unfortunately, we have a 24-hour cable news cycle with talentless fatbags like Brian Stelter who focus on nothing but this precisely because they want to do the opposite of their job description.

00:40:42.000 Brian Stelter, Don Lemon, Anderson Cooper, they focused on Mike Flynn and Russia, Russia, Russia for two years and they want you to forget about it now as they move on to inflated coronavirus death rates, bringing on non-scientists and hosting town halls with Greta.

00:40:56.000 Not because they are trying to fulfill their journalistic obligations in informing you, but precisely because they do not want you informed.

00:41:06.000 Am I attributing motive here?

00:41:08.000 Yeah, I am.

00:41:09.000 I rarely do that.

00:41:10.000 After several years of what we now know to be verifiable lies, and now it's, just ignore that.

00:41:16.000 Ignore what's behind the curtain.

00:41:18.000 I understand how you can get overwhelmed.

00:41:18.000 No.

00:41:20.000 Here's what's not overwhelming.

00:41:21.000 Here's something that I can say confidently, and you don't need to worry about getting wrong.

00:41:25.000 Everything they said for two years?

00:41:27.000 Wrong or lies?

00:41:28.000 Lies or wrong?

00:41:30.000 We're gonna have Gavin McInnes on right after this.

00:41:30.000 Take your pick.

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00:41:33.000 Ooh.

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00:41:35.000 Ooh ba ba panda.

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00:41:37.000 There it is again, so strong.

00:41:39.000 Ooh, yeah, sure.

00:41:40.000 What are we looking for?

00:41:42.000 Ooh, yeah, sure.

00:41:44.000 Ooh.

00:41:46.000 Whistle.

00:41:55.000 Watch this and more at our other channel, Crowder Bits.

00:41:59.000 So healthcare and overtime at two and a half?

00:42:01.000 Three and a half and dental.

00:42:02.000 We can do that.

00:42:04.000 We do the guys.

00:42:31.000 if you're listening on audio you're probably wondering what's going on

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00:42:42.000 Hello.

00:42:43.000 My name's QBG.

00:42:44.000 And did you know that itty-bitty microscopic creatures crawl all over your everyday objects?

00:42:49.000 Mm-hmm.

00:42:50.000 They're on your phones, on your computers, and even on your doorknobs.

00:42:57.000 These germs can hurt you.

00:42:58.000 They can make you sick.

00:43:00.000 You know what makes me sick?

00:43:01.000 The China man.

00:43:03.000 He made all them germs.

00:43:04.000 What is it now, Jerry?

00:43:10.000 Oh, so you're telling me they didn't make all the germs?

00:43:12.000 Not racist at all, it's fact.

00:43:14.000 Now all you have to do to keep the germs away is to think of these three steps every day.

00:43:20.000 Wash your hands.

00:43:21.000 Keep your area tidy and clean.

00:43:23.000 And thirdly, stay away from the China man.

00:43:27.000 Now don't be no fool.

00:43:28.000 Stay away from the Wu-Flu!

00:43:30.000 Don't matter where I'm at, I'ma shoot it down You should know, don't matter where I'm at, I'ma shoot it

00:43:38.000 down I'ma shoot it down

00:43:40.000 That's for my next guest, because he likes to do a little bit of boxing.

00:43:44.000 Except last time when he was on, I realized what he does is real boxing.

00:43:46.000 He actually does.

00:43:47.000 He actually is pretty impressive to watch.

00:43:49.000 But when he's sitting down, it becomes very, like, old lady-ish, because he can't put his hips into it.

00:43:55.000 And he's got good hips!

00:43:56.000 That's the point of this intro.

00:43:58.000 He's got fantastic hips!

00:43:59.000 You can follow him, of course, and watch his show.

00:44:02.000 It's Get Off My Lawn at censored.tv.

00:44:05.000 That's censored.tv.

00:44:08.000 You know him.

00:44:09.000 He's been on the show quite a bit.

00:44:09.000 You love him.

00:44:10.000 Gavin McInnes, how are you, sir?

00:44:12.000 I'm good!

00:44:13.000 How are you doing?

00:44:14.000 Whoa, that was higher energy than I was expecting.

00:44:16.000 Coming in hot!

00:44:18.000 I'm Big Ed.

00:44:20.000 What?

00:44:21.000 For 90 Day Fiancé?

00:44:23.000 Oh, I've not seen that show.

00:44:24.000 You were just telling me off air that I was gay for having watched Life of Pi.

00:44:28.000 You watched 90 Day Fiancé?

00:44:29.000 Yeah, it's a pull, yeah.

00:44:33.000 What is this show?

00:44:34.000 Explain it to me.

00:44:36.000 Oh, it's just these... I mean, imagine how much of a loser you'd have to be to go to the other end of the world, like Serbia, to get laid.

00:44:43.000 It's these pathetic losers with some foreign bride they're trying to seduce or marry.

00:44:51.000 And obviously 100% of the crap country's people, they're trying to get citizenship.

00:44:57.000 Right.

00:44:57.000 And you're just watching this catastrophe unfold with these losers.

00:45:02.000 Now... Oh, there it is.

00:45:04.000 You guys are saying... Oh, they've got overlays.

00:45:06.000 So you have the control to override and send us horrible overlays.

00:45:11.000 Wow.

00:45:12.000 That's an actual human being.

00:45:13.000 That's a real person.

00:45:15.000 First thing that Bright said was, you're ugly.

00:45:17.000 He's one.

00:45:17.000 He's a one.

00:45:21.000 That is really unfortunate.

00:45:23.000 That looks like a screenshot from Total Recall.

00:45:25.000 That's real.

00:45:27.000 Is this, let me guess, is it TLC?

00:45:30.000 Is it TLC?

00:45:31.000 Yes.

00:45:31.000 Oh, okay.

00:45:33.000 I watched, my wife, what was the one where she watched, your friend was on it there, Audio, or someone here knew someone who was on it?

00:45:40.000 Yeah, yeah, Married at First Sight.

00:45:42.000 Okay, good, I didn't know that.

00:45:43.000 They have to instantly get married.

00:45:44.000 Yeah, Married at First Sight.

00:45:45.000 My wife watched it.

00:45:46.000 So I don't really watch TLC, but I said, I'll give this a shot.

00:45:49.000 And there was a preview for another show, and there were midgets on a speedboat, and one pushed a black midget into the water, and she went, They're contractually obligated to do that, though.

00:46:04.000 What was that, Gavin?

00:46:05.000 That's good luck.

00:46:06.000 To see a black midget jump in the water.

00:46:08.000 Well, I didn't know that... I didn't know that midgets could swim.

00:46:12.000 That was a thing.

00:46:13.000 I thought it was like... What?

00:46:14.000 I thought it was... Yeah, I mean, come on.

00:46:16.000 Let's take the extreme example, right?

00:46:18.000 You've got Phelps with a wingspan like an albatross and size 17 feet, and then Verne Troyer.

00:46:24.000 Like, there's a middle ground, but I thought the closer you were to Midget, I thought it'd be very difficult, you know, to swim.

00:46:29.000 Alligators can swim, so obviously someone with alligator arms can swim, too.

00:46:33.000 That would be relevant if Verne Troyer had a giant reptilian tail.

00:46:38.000 Again, wow, you really get me.

00:46:41.000 I'm just thinking of the mechanics.

00:46:43.000 You know, they need a rudder.

00:46:44.000 What's the rudder if you don't have limbs?

00:46:48.000 True, you'd have those weird little baby butt cheeks.

00:46:52.000 That's very insensitive.

00:46:54.000 So, Gavin McInnes, you're in the epicenter here of the COVID going on.

00:47:00.000 How are you staying safe on the eastern seaboard?

00:47:05.000 By existing.

00:47:06.000 This whole thing is a myth.

00:47:07.000 We're in Manhattan right now.

00:47:09.000 It's a ghost town.

00:47:10.000 There's just construction workers and homeless people.

00:47:13.000 And I'm walking around going, you're all being lied to!

00:47:17.000 Go back to work!

00:47:18.000 I think the death toll is more like 50k, which is a pretty normal flu season.

00:47:23.000 I don't think masks help.

00:47:24.000 I think they do more damage.

00:47:26.000 I think the success rate is 99.7.

00:47:30.000 Hire for guys like me who drink a bottle of bourbon a day?

00:47:33.000 This is pathetic.

00:47:34.000 I'm embarrassed for Americans right now.

00:47:37.000 Yeah, um, I'm embarrassed as an American.

00:47:40.000 Wait, did you just say that bourbon makes you have a higher success rate?

00:47:44.000 That's my personal medical theory.

00:47:46.000 Okay, all right.

00:47:47.000 You just douse it.

00:47:49.000 It's interesting that you bring that up, because we've talked about that quite a bit.

00:47:52.000 From the beginning, we talked about the death rates that are being over-tallied.

00:47:56.000 And of course, Dr. Birx, who by the way, I don't know if you know this, when they say trust the experts, the actual practicing physician, once upon a time, Dr. Birx, is not amongst them.

00:48:03.000 Have you heard?

00:48:05.000 Oh yeah.

00:48:06.000 Fauci hasn't practiced medicine in 40 years, but we have to listen to these We have to ignore practicing physicians.

00:48:13.000 And when you talk to them, Fleckus had a great thing in an interview the other day where the doctor said, no pharmacy has ever called me about a prescription in my 30 years of practicing.

00:48:23.000 I've been prescribing hydroxychloroquine for a long time.

00:48:28.000 It's an anti-malaria drug, as everyone knows.

00:48:30.000 And only in the past couple months do I get calls every time I prescribe it questioning my prescription from some guy who works at Walgreens.

00:48:43.000 Yeah, well, he also moonlights as a blogger for Salon.

00:48:46.000 So that makes it a little bit more difficult.

00:48:49.000 It is remarkable.

00:48:50.000 They came out this week and said, we think Donald Trump's lying.

00:48:52.000 There's no way he's taking hydroxychloroquine like it's arsenic.

00:48:55.000 Yeah, it's you know, when I when I was a single man, we used to go to the STD place.

00:49:01.000 And they would put a cotton swab down your penis and pull it out, and it's the most painful thing imaginable.

00:49:07.000 So what we would do is we'd just say, hey, I had sex with a virgin, and she has gonorrhea, so I have it.

00:49:13.000 And we didn't know if we had gonorrhea or not.

00:49:15.000 They'd just give you all the pills.

00:49:16.000 You'd take them, because there's no side effects.

00:49:18.000 So take hydroxychloroquine.

00:49:20.000 Oh, OK.

00:49:21.000 Hold on a second.

00:49:23.000 First off, why would you feel the need to preface it with, I had sex with a virgin, and how does a virgin get gonorrhea?

00:49:30.000 And how does the, if it's like a Q-tip, how does it not unravel in the wiener hole?

00:49:37.000 I don't know.

00:49:38.000 It's like a strong cotton thing, and it's on a stick of wood.

00:49:41.000 It's not a skinny Q-tip.

00:49:43.000 It's like a pencil almost.

00:49:45.000 And the story is, the lie is, say you're worried you might have chlamydia.

00:49:50.000 I had sex with a virgin.

00:49:51.000 She's no longer a virgin.

00:49:53.000 But she had never slept with anyone before or since, and she has the disease, so we don't have to do the test.

00:49:58.000 Just give me the pill.

00:50:00.000 Alright, I see, yeah.

00:50:03.000 So really you're just...

00:50:04.000 There's nothing wrong with thinking hydroxychloroquine.

00:50:06.000 Yeah, well it's remarkable to me that people have really, I think they've really wanted

00:50:09.000 to jump on it of course because Donald Trump has mentioned it.

00:50:12.000 And I think you're being clear here.

00:50:13.000 There's nothing wrong with it.

00:50:15.000 There's mixed success, and that's because we haven't looked at the studies, like with any other drug, where it can be successful depending on when you use it.

00:50:21.000 Is it successful prophylactically?

00:50:23.000 Is it successful not until you get to the point of being on ventilators?

00:50:25.000 There's been a pretty wide spectrum with the studies, but it's interesting that, again, this is the thing to me that is most telling.

00:50:31.000 They really do pick and choose when they care about science, the left, and that can mean the Young Turks, Brian Stelter, Anderson Cooper.

00:50:37.000 I want to be very clear.

00:50:39.000 They go, oh, this study from Brazil that shows that it doesn't work.

00:50:42.000 They were using a high dose, and they didn't account for people with heart conditions, which should already be accounted for when prescribing the drug.

00:50:42.000 Well, hold on a second.

00:50:47.000 And they go, well, Fauci's an expert.

00:50:49.000 What about Dr. Birx, who thinks death tolls are overcounted by 25 percent, which has been corroborated by college.

00:50:53.000 Colorado, Pennsylvania, everywhere they've actually tried to look at these rates and separate death with, from the likelihood of death from COVID.

00:51:02.000 She's right, but she's not an expert.

00:51:04.000 So it's remarkable to me, the picking and choosing of science.

00:51:06.000 Do you think that there's a silver lining here in that maybe a lot of, hopefully in Manhattan, in Texas, everyone here gets it.

00:51:13.000 But in Manhattan, they're going to go, oh, wait a second.

00:51:15.000 Science is flawless in theory, but the human beings who apply it are not.

00:51:21.000 I'm hoping that comes with this.

00:51:23.000 Yeah, I think there's a lot of silver lining.

00:51:25.000 I mean, yes, it has been the tyranny of the Karens, especially in the suburbs where I live.

00:51:31.000 But there's a million pluses here.

00:51:31.000 Yeah.

00:51:33.000 And the biggest one is people are seeing how malicious the DNC is and how immoral they are.

00:51:40.000 And the lockdown is being associated with the DNC.

00:51:43.000 And that's good for Trump in November, because real Americans are sick of this.

00:51:48.000 And it's only the posh elites who can afford to stay home and not work.

00:51:53.000 that are supporting this.

00:51:56.000 They politicized it, but then they chose the wrong side, and that was a huge blunder.

00:52:02.000 Well, it's interesting because I know that you've made it a point, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you don't talk about it a whole lot on your show.

00:52:08.000 I understand why.

00:52:11.000 It unfortunately becomes white noise, but do you think at this point it probably behooves conservatives to talk about it more going into election because we don't want people to forget it at this point since they've so overplayed their hand?

00:52:21.000 Yeah, but my job is entertainment, too, and it's not entertaining to talk about it all the time.

00:52:28.000 I've said my numbers.

00:52:30.000 I had John Lott on the show the other day.

00:52:30.000 I've said what I believe.

00:52:32.000 We broke it all down, and then we move on to that NASA discovered a parallel universe where time goes backwards.

00:52:38.000 That's more stimulating to me.

00:52:40.000 But I think the DNC's plan is to keep us indoors until November, so we do mail-in ballots.

00:52:47.000 Yes.

00:52:47.000 That's the stupidest plan.

00:52:50.000 Maybe if it was August right now, you might have a hope in hell, but to want to keep us there for five more months?

00:52:57.000 Well, they already cancelled, in Michigan, they already cancelled Fourth of July fireworks in a town when I was there last month.

00:53:03.000 They hadn't had a case of COVID in two weeks.

00:53:06.000 Not a death.

00:53:07.000 This county hadn't had a case in two weeks, and they cancelled the Fourth of July fireworks.

00:53:12.000 So at a certain point, I just go, oh, hold on a second.

00:53:14.000 At what point are we going to say, all right, you're the party who's anti-science.

00:53:18.000 Not a single case, let alone a death.

00:53:20.000 You're canceling 4th of July fireworks where it's going to be sunny and open air and it's a sparsely populated county.

00:53:28.000 I do hope that, I think it started out with Democrats saying, remember this November, remember this November.

00:53:32.000 And now we are saying, yeah, yeah, remember this in November.

00:53:37.000 I knew, and another thing that's going to happen is this summer, it's going to vanish with the heat and there's going to be a massive Yeah.

00:53:44.000 in the economy because people are going to be going out partying spending like

00:53:48.000 crazy so by the time November comes the economy will be booming again Trump is

00:53:53.000 gonna win in a landslide yeah well have you have you focused on the polling a

00:53:58.000 lot or kind of dove into that yet well I think we learned how inaccurate polls

00:54:04.000 are Yeah, that's true.

00:54:07.000 Remember they used to have the bumper stickers, Trust Nate Silver?

00:54:10.000 Where'd they go?

00:54:12.000 What was Hillary Clinton in the New York Times?

00:54:13.000 A 99% chance of winning?

00:54:16.000 Oh my gosh, yeah.

00:54:18.000 It was so much fun.

00:54:19.000 We just, that night when we did the election stream, we just watched, we just kept tuning into The Young Turks to gradually watch the meltdown.

00:54:24.000 and it just ever we'd flip back in and the faces would just change it started kind of like this and

00:54:28.000 it was like a different emoji but um i say taking that into account when you look at the polling

00:54:32.000 nationally biden and donald trump um biden is about a four-point lead and they do account for

00:54:38.000 the fact that well don't account for but they have mentioned it even at politico and i think

00:54:42.000 washington post or maybe gallup they've they've They've said, listen, typically Democrats like Joe Biden is likely to be performing four to five points better because that's historically been the case with registered voters, as included in this poll, versus likely voters.

00:54:54.000 So that means they're within the margin of error nationally right now.

00:54:58.000 But in the swing states where it counts, it's not even close.

00:55:02.000 And this is what really stood out to me.

00:55:03.000 According to the recent Gallup poll, it's Biden-Trump 49 to 46.

00:55:08.000 Which is a dead heat.

00:55:09.000 Can you remember any president, any Republican candidate in your lifetime who was split with people under the age of 45?

00:55:16.000 I can't.

00:55:18.000 No.

00:55:19.000 That's what's so unique about him.

00:55:20.000 He's not really Republican.

00:55:22.000 He's just like anti-elite, anti-establishment.

00:55:22.000 Right.

00:55:26.000 So he pulls in a lot of Zoomers.

00:55:28.000 It's Millennials that are annoying, by the way.

00:55:30.000 I think the Zoomers are a new generation and they're not falling for all this crap.

00:55:36.000 Yeah, I don't think they're saddled with as much guilt as millennials.

00:55:41.000 Yeah, they've seen their sisters go $250,000 in debt for some dumb degree, where they learn fake words like intersectionality, and they go, I'm not falling for that scam.

00:55:53.000 My sister's screwed.

00:55:54.000 Right.

00:55:55.000 Yeah, and of course, right now we should forgive all student debt, just like rent with the coronavirus.

00:56:02.000 Forgive rent.

00:56:03.000 You know this.

00:56:04.000 I mean, you're a business person.

00:56:05.000 You started up a lot of ventures.

00:56:06.000 I don't know if you've worked in real estate.

00:56:08.000 Someone is making a payment here.

00:56:10.000 Someone owns the building.

00:56:11.000 There is an ending point where you close the books and someone foots the bill.

00:56:17.000 It's amazing that there's half the country.

00:56:18.000 They don't even consider it.

00:56:20.000 Well, they seem to think that the guy who owns the building has paid it all off and is just getting all this gravy that's just going in a big pile of cash like the dragon in Lord of the Rings.

00:56:31.000 He has a mortgage.

00:56:32.000 Sometimes he's even sold off the mortgage to someone else.

00:56:35.000 The rent isn't even going through him anymore.

00:56:37.000 You can't just erase debt, dummies.

00:56:40.000 That's not how it works and you can't print more money either.

00:56:43.000 They don't realize that they are Michael Keaton in Pacific Heights.

00:56:47.000 Is that another weird movie?

00:56:48.000 Have you ever seen Michael Keaton and Matthew Modine in Pacific Heights?

00:56:52.000 It was the rule in San... So Matthew Modine buys a townhome in San Francisco, and I can't remember who the wife is, and then Michael Keaton moves in to the bottom apartment, so like, oh, we'll make a little bit of cash, we'll be able to live upstairs, and he just destroys it, but he has squatters' rights, so he starts creating cockroach infestations, and his thing was he used to smoke a cigarette in the film, and he would have a razor blade and twirl it between his fingers.

00:57:14.000 Michael Keaton.

00:57:15.000 It's actually worth watching.

00:57:17.000 So Michael Keaton's a bad guy?

00:57:18.000 He's a bad guy.

00:57:19.000 He's a tenant from hell who specifically screws people using California's squatters' rights where they can't actually evict tenants.

00:57:26.000 So this was real estate anxiety, you know, before the COVID, back in the 80s.

00:57:30.000 I think the only time I can picture Michael Keaton as a bad guy is if he was serving me a tray of wine glasses.

00:57:37.000 Would he serve them like this?

00:57:40.000 No, he serves them like this.

00:57:44.000 What?

00:57:45.000 How is that Michael Keaton?

00:57:45.000 Is that?

00:57:47.000 What is that?

00:57:47.000 I think he's thinking of Michael J. Fox.

00:57:48.000 Wait, am I thinking of Michael J. Fox?

00:57:51.000 Yes, you are.

00:57:53.000 Wow!

00:57:54.000 Michael Keaton Batman.

00:57:56.000 Michael Keaton Batman.

00:57:56.000 Hey, Gav!

00:57:57.000 Michael Keaton Batman!

00:58:00.000 The guy who John Lovitz ripped off with a compulsive life.

00:58:02.000 Did you know that?

00:58:04.000 No, I didn't.

00:58:04.000 Yeah, Norm Macdonald had a podcast about this, where you can see he just doesn't really like John- you remember John Lovitz, where he would say, yeah, my girlfriend, Pamela- Yeah, so unfunny.

00:58:12.000 He'd entirely ripped it off from Michael Keaton, who had it in a stand-up bit, where he would talk about, like, Cagney interviewing a prisoner, and like, oh, yeah, see, I was down on 4th Street, right!

00:58:22.000 It was copied verbatim, and Norm blew the lid off of it on his podcast.

00:58:27.000 You can sort of tell that when people are brutally talentless because they never do anything before or since.

00:58:33.000 Like the guy who did the stakeout.

00:58:35.000 for Roger Stone. He said, I have a feeling that they're going to bust Roger Stone. I'm going to

00:58:40.000 stake out his house. When are you going to stake out his house? Like a week before? No, at 530

00:58:45.000 AM. And they show up at 545 AM. And you go, wow. Really good at stakeouts.

00:58:53.000 And he's done zero before that and zero after, including stakeouts. And you go,

00:59:01.000 you're full of poopoo. When that started, based on the direction of this conversation,

00:59:06.000 I thought you were referencing the Emilio Estadez slash Rosie O'Donnell film vehicle, Stakeout.

00:59:12.000 And I was about to say, it must have been somewhat successful because there was another Stakeout, commonly known as Stakeout 2.

00:59:19.000 Yeah, I would kill to get David Chortel, that's the CNN guy who did it, he was like 25 at the time.

00:59:26.000 I would kill to get him on a show with other people who do stakeouts, like Private Eyes, and they go, yeah, the quickest I've ever done is three days, and it really sucks sitting in a car drinking coffee all the time.

00:59:37.000 But it's usually about a week and a half.

00:59:39.000 And then David's like, it was 15 minutes for me.

00:59:41.000 Yes!

00:59:43.000 Right, it was 15 minutes.

00:59:44.000 And what did you use?

00:59:45.000 I used the Zoom on my camera phone.

00:59:49.000 No, I had a whole crew there.

00:59:52.000 It is remarkable.

00:59:54.000 OK, listen, we're going to go to a web extended here.

00:59:56.000 Again, the show is Get Off My Lawn.

00:59:59.000 It's censored.tv, right, Gavin?

01:00:01.000 Yes.

01:00:02.000 I gotta go though.

01:00:04.000 Hold on one sec.

01:00:05.000 One second here.

01:00:05.000 One second.

01:00:05.000 We'll be right back with Web Extended in, uh, it might be two minutes.

01:00:33.000 I guarantee you, because myself, I said, you know what?

01:00:35.000 I'm going to go get some sticky strips for the wall.

01:00:37.000 I don't even have any paintings.

01:00:38.000 I don't like art.

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01:02:16.000 🎵MUG CLUB THEME🎵 That's called the drowning dance of someone who has, uh

01:02:20.000 Someone who has vertigo going on and didn't want to be moving

01:02:22.000 Wow It's probably a good thing to add on top of that.

01:02:25.000 I sat on it and I was like, the bounce in the chair, I was like, ugh.

01:02:26.000 I'll just do this.

01:02:29.000 Which, by the way, I, uh, Gavin McGinnis, thank you for being on the show.

01:02:32.000 There's a web extended, of course, for those who are Mug Club members.

01:02:34.000 And we will not be in Lansing Friday, I apologize, but we will have a Change My Mind coming up pretty soon.

01:02:39.000 Yesterday we saw the biggest bullfrog I've ever seen in my life in our backyard.

01:02:45.000 I think it might have been on Instagram somewhere.

01:02:47.000 I got a pool scraper and it was actually like bowing.

01:02:53.000 I had to reach down.

01:02:55.000 And Betty was of course trying to eat it.

01:02:59.000 And so we got her inside and she was going nuts destroying the blinds.

01:03:02.000 And I swear to you, we got the bullfrog out.

01:03:05.000 We found a little wooded area.

01:03:06.000 We put it away kind of near a pond.

01:03:07.000 I don't know.

01:03:09.000 People who think I'm cruel, that's about as much as I care about bullfrogs.

01:03:14.000 Put it near a general vicinity with some water, some shade, then he's got to make his own decisions.

01:03:20.000 But Betty was so distraught about not being able to eat the bulldog, she cried for two hours.

01:03:27.000 Yeah, we have video of it.

01:03:27.000 It'll be up on Instagram.

01:03:28.000 She cried.

01:03:29.000 She went in the bathroom, lay in the towel, and was like, meh!

01:03:30.000 I was like, what?

01:03:32.000 And she made that meh sound.

01:03:33.000 I was like, you can pronounce M's?

01:03:34.000 Wow.

01:03:35.000 So she was upset, and then she went to bed, and while she was sleeping was whining, meh, meh.

01:03:40.000 She was still thinking about the bulldog.

01:03:41.000 Frog.

01:03:43.000 I say bullfrog.

01:03:45.000 Bullfrog.

01:03:46.000 Although she probably would, same thing if there was a bulldog around.

01:03:48.000 She has a bulldog.

01:03:49.000 Charlie, I'm not sure who she likes, but she doesn't try to eat him.

01:03:52.000 She plays them.

01:03:53.000 But she would have killed this bullfrog without a doubt.

01:03:55.000 It's just crazy.

01:03:56.000 The prey drive is insane.

01:03:57.000 So a lot of people out there say, should I get a doggo Argentino?

01:04:00.000 Great dogs.

01:04:01.000 Great family dogs, super loyal.

01:04:03.000 Betty is sweet, but she's an idiot.

01:04:05.000 Hopper was really smart, but she's really sweet.

01:04:07.000 But you do have to understand that prey drive.

01:04:09.000 It is something else.

01:04:10.000 We saw how she handled that toilet paper.

01:04:12.000 That was serious business.

01:04:13.000 She gave that toilet paper a talking to.

01:04:16.000 So next week, by the way, no show Monday.

01:04:18.000 I would come in and work, but apparently it's illegal.

01:04:20.000 It's a federal holiday.

01:04:22.000 All that.

01:04:23.000 I don't know what we're going to figure out Columbus Day.

01:04:27.000 Stay tuned.

01:04:28.000 We will be back, of course, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday next week.

01:04:31.000 And we have a lot of special things coming on the pike that I'm pretty excited about.

01:04:33.000 Lansing is not among them.

01:04:34.000 But I wanted to talk about something that has been coming up quite a bit recently.

01:04:41.000 And I see politicians doing this a lot, too.

01:04:42.000 You see it with Biden.

01:04:43.000 You see it with Trump.

01:04:44.000 But how often do you hear this phrase?

01:04:48.000 I can't remember exactly where.

01:04:49.000 I think it might have been some ass model on Instagram.

01:04:52.000 Because, you know, they do inspirational stuff.

01:04:54.000 Yeah.

01:04:56.000 But how often have you heard a phrase with this effect, like, man, I don't give up.

01:04:59.000 I got grit.

01:05:00.000 People say, like, I got grit.

01:05:02.000 That's what you hear all the time.

01:05:03.000 People don't understand about me.

01:05:04.000 It's one thing.

01:05:04.000 I will get it done.

01:05:05.000 I've got grit.

01:05:06.000 And that's all well and good.

01:05:07.000 But what does it really mean?

01:05:09.000 We hear this a whole lot.

01:05:10.000 I don't give up.

01:05:10.000 I've got... What is grit?

01:05:12.000 Or true grit is kind of the colloquialism.

01:05:14.000 True grit, I think, is defined Let me bring it up in the dictionary here.

01:05:18.000 A person with passion and great perseverance.

01:05:22.000 A never-quit mentality.

01:05:24.000 That's the idea of true grit.

01:05:25.000 That's how it's defined.

01:05:26.000 Great!

01:05:27.000 But a lot of people, like Instagram ass models or other folks, they sell it in these self-help books or seminars or TED Talks if you're into the occult, as though it's some kind of a game-changer for you.

01:05:40.000 And, you know, I'm not really big on bumper sticker slogans when we do this closing segment.

01:05:43.000 Hopefully it's something that's actually helpful for you when we do life advice.

01:05:46.000 We get a lot of feedback.

01:05:47.000 I really appreciate it.

01:05:48.000 I'm not some wise sage, but every now and then something pisses me off enough to the point that apparently it can be insightful.

01:05:54.000 Here's the thing.

01:05:55.000 Grit itself is a really incomplete and not particularly valuable character quality.

01:06:03.000 On its own.

01:06:04.000 Let me go further.

01:06:06.000 I would actually say it can only be of value, grit, when combined with more important character qualities.

01:06:12.000 So let me explain this to you, okay?

01:06:14.000 I can't tell you how many times I've had people come into the gym, or I do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, or have applied for a job here at Light Earth Crowder, and they list grit, right?

01:06:21.000 That's a big part of their cover letter.

01:06:22.000 It's like, oh, I never quit, I get things done.

01:06:24.000 If you're looking for someone with grit, they list it as a main attribute.

01:06:28.000 Okay, great.

01:06:30.000 Grit applied to what?

01:06:32.000 Your passion and your perseverance can be utilized to do... I don't really know, I just thought about it.

01:06:40.000 And the point that I'm making here is that grit, without a skill set, it can't help you without a skill set.

01:06:48.000 First, you need to achieve excellence.

01:06:52.000 Grit without excellence is useless.

01:06:53.000 As a matter of fact, I would say grit, the never quit, never give up attitude, It can hurt you if it's not combined with a true skill set or being excellent at something.

01:07:03.000 Let me give you a couple of very real examples here.

01:07:05.000 And then I'll maybe have an exercise for all of us to do that I'll need to do myself.

01:07:08.000 So two examples, one time.

01:07:10.000 We had a guy come into a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu gym, and a strong guy, athletic, a Marine, okay?

01:07:15.000 Never trained seriously in any kind of grappling, and he wanted to get himself an amateur fight right away.

01:07:20.000 He was advised against it by the coach there, but he was sure he could do it.

01:07:23.000 Why?

01:07:24.000 And he said, he said, because I got grit, bro.

01:07:27.000 People don't understand, when it's go time, I hit a switch, and it's a different gear, nothing can stop me.

01:07:33.000 Well, we paired him with a skilled blue belt girl and she stopped him really quickly.

01:07:37.000 And repeatedly.

01:07:39.000 Another example of the grit.

01:07:40.000 We had someone apply for a job here at Lionel's Crowder.

01:07:42.000 Great attitude.

01:07:43.000 Really nice person.

01:07:44.000 Very little experience.

01:07:46.000 I took a flyer.

01:07:47.000 I said, okay, you know what?

01:07:48.000 This person seems like maybe they have a good attitude.

01:07:49.000 They've claimed to have grit.

01:07:50.000 Well, they found themselves in over their head, and then after the trial period, they were begging to find a way to recuse themselves from the job here.

01:07:58.000 Now, let me be really quick.

01:07:59.000 Grit, again, it's an important quality.

01:08:01.000 It really is.

01:08:02.000 But when we think of examples of people, I think this is where people get this disconnect, we think of examples of people who have grit that we admire, right?

01:08:09.000 We only think of those, or we should be, but certainly at large as a society, we only think of those who utilize grit to excellent effect.

01:08:17.000 Right now, The Last Dance is playing.

01:08:18.000 Everyone's talking about this at ESPN.

01:08:20.000 I highly recommend you watch it.

01:08:22.000 Let's think Michael Jordan, okay?

01:08:24.000 Was it game six when he had food poisoning?

01:08:26.000 I don't know.

01:08:26.000 He had food poisoning, he had the flu, and he played through it, right?

01:08:29.000 And he started off, it was really rocky, and they show this in the documentary, and it really is unbelievable.

01:08:33.000 Scored 30-something points when he couldn't even drink water that day.

01:08:37.000 He was throwing up nonstop.

01:08:38.000 That's grit.

01:08:39.000 Joe Frazier is a good example.

01:08:40.000 He would absorb some of the worst beatings, right, ever in the ring.

01:08:43.000 You think of the Fight of the Century, Thrill in the Manila.

01:08:45.000 But he kept coming.

01:08:46.000 He's the kind of guy who would take five shots to deliver one.

01:08:49.000 Good.

01:08:50.000 Those people have grit and it is to be admired.

01:08:51.000 But it's really easy to, when you're following self-help books and gurus and inspiration that really amount to nothing more than falsehoods, it's easy to miss half of that equation.

01:09:01.000 We're talking about Michael Jordan and Joe Frazier.

01:09:03.000 You know who else maybe had grit?

01:09:04.000 George Mersham.

01:09:06.000 You ever heard of him since his rom-com with Billy Crystal, My Friendly Giant, or whatever the hell it was called?

01:09:10.000 You know who else might have had grit?

01:09:12.000 Chuck Wepner!

01:09:12.000 You know who he's most famous for?

01:09:15.000 Getting his ass kicked by Muhammad Ali in Inspiring Rocky, which ended up having him sue Sylvester Stallone.

01:09:21.000 They called him the Bayonne Bleeder, and he's now a liquor store salesman.

01:09:24.000 He's a liquor salesman, or he works at a liquor store.

01:09:27.000 The point that I'm making is this, and it's not to belittle these people, but the point is no one says, I got grit like Chuck Wepner.

01:09:36.000 The point is that grit doesn't make you any better in any endeavor you choose.

01:09:39.000 And so I see this a lot because people are looking for a quick fix to inspire themselves and to better themselves.

01:09:45.000 And it's just, oh, if you never give up, if you have grit, we see it on Shark Tank.

01:09:48.000 I trust you because you've got grit.

01:09:49.000 That's half of the equation.

01:09:51.000 All that grit does, it just makes you more capable of enduring abuse.

01:09:58.000 More punishment.

01:09:59.000 More hardship.

01:09:59.000 Which is great, by the way.

01:10:01.000 If you're enduring, you're going through a war of attrition because you know that you've done the work.

01:10:05.000 And you know that you've earned this win.

01:10:07.000 You know that you deserve this job.

01:10:09.000 You know that you've earned that promotion.

01:10:11.000 Grit is great for you to keep going.

01:10:14.000 But if you haven't earned it...

01:10:16.000 No matter what it is, grit won't make you run faster, think faster, be smarter, jump higher, push more, it can't.

01:10:23.000 It can't do any of those things.

01:10:25.000 It can just allow you to endure more pain as you apply discipline.

01:10:29.000 And everyone inherently knows this, but for some reason they throw it out the window when they want to have a good soundbite.

01:10:34.000 Let me use a very real example that you can test it right now, though don't.

01:10:39.000 If I were to put you under a 650 pound barbell right now, do you think you could grit it out and lift it?

01:10:45.000 No?

01:10:46.000 Well, because I have an employee here, Reg, our researcher, Reg the Beast.

01:10:49.000 He can.

01:10:50.000 He can.

01:10:51.000 I've watched him lift 600, squat 650 pounds.

01:10:52.000 650 pounds. Like it was a flyweight. He has grit. But you know what else he has? He has

01:10:59.000 over a decade of strength training and competing experience.

01:11:03.000 He also has grit, so when he digs deep down and he grips his teeth, he bites on his mouth, it's

01:11:08.000 a gold mine of experience and discipline which have culminated in this moment where

01:11:13.000 he's able to set personal records or state records. That's where the case in his situation.

01:11:18.000 I've had the luxury of sitting... This is one thing to have talked about at the show.

01:11:21.000 I've really had the luxury, if obviously I'm not amongst them, but sitting at the feet and learning from the greats.

01:11:26.000 In many different fields.

01:11:27.000 You have like Thomas Sowell in economics.

01:11:30.000 John Stossel or Megyn Kelly just recently in media.

01:11:32.000 Daniel Cormier, UFC heavyweight champion on fighting.

01:11:35.000 It's inspiring.

01:11:36.000 I get to sit and pick their brains.

01:11:38.000 But let me tell you one of the most... One of the most extremely humbling situations that I've ever had.

01:11:45.000 Okay?

01:11:47.000 I was rolling with a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu world champion, a guy named Lucas Leite.

01:11:51.000 You can look him up.

01:11:52.000 Really nice guy.

01:11:54.000 I don't have a bad word to say about him.

01:11:55.000 I want to be clear.

01:11:56.000 I'm just telling the story because it embarrasses me.

01:11:58.000 Didn't speak much English.

01:12:00.000 Unbelievable athlete.

01:12:01.000 I was pretty good at this point.

01:12:03.000 Not only did he roll me up like a child, he could pretty much roll me up however he wanted, whenever he wanted.

01:12:11.000 And there was a certain point in this, I think there might be some video there, where I just started laughing because I was so totally at his mercy.

01:12:18.000 I knew there was nothing I could do.

01:12:20.000 And I remember saying to myself, oh, so that's what it's like to have that skill set.

01:12:24.000 That's what it's like to be that good.

01:12:27.000 And you know what?

01:12:27.000 I have grit in a lot of ways, but you know what?

01:12:29.000 So did he.

01:12:30.000 You know what else he had?

01:12:31.000 He had the ability, the time, the wherewithal to train every single day for hours a day like it's his full-time job for years, because it is his full-time job.

01:12:41.000 So of course he had grit, because he's a world champion.

01:12:44.000 But let's assume for a second, and I'm not saying this is true, let's assume for a second that I had more.

01:12:48.000 That I had the ability to bite down and dig deep more than he did.

01:12:51.000 It doesn't matter, folks!

01:12:53.000 It doesn't matter, because comparatively, there's nothing there.

01:12:57.000 And so often, when we observe what we see as grit, or never quitting, what we're really seeing is someone We're not seeing someone digging down deep and finding something they never knew that was within them in that moment.

01:13:10.000 That's sometimes what people think, right?

01:13:11.000 Oh, that guy had grit.

01:13:12.000 He dug deep and he found something he never knew he had.

01:13:14.000 That's not what really is happening.

01:13:15.000 What we're seeing is a manifestation of someone digging deep and pulling something out that they've carefully built, prepared, and saved for that moment.

01:13:24.000 And that's why I hate it whenever you see these histrionic, ostentatious assbags on Instagram, or in the gym, or just to post some Phony inspirational quote or some highlight reel to music about never giving up!

01:13:39.000 About grit!

01:13:41.000 Right.

01:13:42.000 Like years of neglect and apathy are going to be reversed for everybody else because you happened to put on a Slayer album before you went into the squat rack.

01:13:50.000 K, Mr. CrossFit, enjoy the rhabdomyolysis.

01:13:52.000 Because here's something else we don't talk about as much.

01:13:57.000 And this is really what I want to get to.

01:13:58.000 You know what else actually takes true grit?

01:14:03.000 It's not digging deep on the big day.

01:14:06.000 It's not making a great showing at the performance hall, but digging deep every day.

01:14:12.000 Digging deep to get up on time when it's cold and rainy outside, to go to the gym, to make sure you're doing your daily devotionals, or setting aside reading time, or maybe you need to be working on your marriage consistently.

01:14:23.000 There's no greater indicator of grit than if you've made the big show in the first place, okay?

01:14:30.000 Regardless of outcome.

01:14:31.000 Because you've done the work to get there.

01:14:33.000 The grit comes from the day-to-day grind.

01:14:36.000 We often think at someone, well, they don't quit because in this final game, we saw them pull something out.

01:14:42.000 Yeah, but what about when none of you were watching?

01:14:45.000 Why don't we consider that crit?

01:14:47.000 It's a lot harder.

01:14:49.000 So here's my question to you.

01:14:50.000 It's a challenge.

01:14:52.000 What is it in your life that you know you maybe need to do to achieve excellence?

01:14:56.000 And whatever it is.

01:14:57.000 We all have it.

01:14:57.000 Something that maybe you've had this whole time and you've put off in the corner and it's still there staring at you like the swerving camera right now with my vertigo.

01:15:06.000 What is it that you've put off?

01:15:08.000 How important is it to you to achieve those goals and how often have you been lying to yourself In thinking, well, you know, I don't need to do that now, but when push comes to shove, I'll ace that test.

01:15:19.000 When push comes to shove, I'll score that winning goal.

01:15:21.000 When push comes to, I'll make sure that I make my marriage work, or I'll get that promotion.

01:15:25.000 What is it that you've been putting off by avoiding showing your true grit every single day?

01:15:33.000 So rather, why don't you think about it?

01:15:34.000 Take a second.

01:15:35.000 Think about it.

01:15:36.000 Write it down.

01:15:37.000 What is it you've been ignoring?

01:15:39.000 And I want you to go forward this week, rather than waiting for an opportunity, to show the whole world your grit on full display.

01:15:45.000 Prove to yourself that you have grit, that you're someone who never gives up by doing what you need to do every day, by yourself, when no one is watching.

01:15:56.000 And if you post it along with a quote and your ass on Instagram, you will be perma-banned from any social media accounts here associated with Lotto's Crowder.

01:16:05.000 We will see you next week, but not on the federal holiday.

Louder with Crowder - May 21, 2020

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