Dave Lando, Gerald Ford, and the rest of the FreeCrowder team are back with a brand new episode of Fight Like Hell. This time, the crew is joined by a lawyer to talk about the latest in election fraud and conspiracy theories.
00:01:22.000For people who are watching, there's going to be a lot of information here.
00:01:25.000I don't know where this will be, where it'll be available, so listen, the hashtag right now, if you want to get out there is Free Crowder, just include my name, tweet this livestream out.
00:01:37.000People say, why don't you create another platform?
00:01:38.000Because I'm going to talk about being blocked on Twitter and what's been happening.
00:01:41.000And my half-alation lawyer is going to be here in a second.
00:02:06.000For posting yesterday, the segment that you saw, where we went to the fake addresses, the addresses in the Nevada and Michigan voter rolls that didn't exist.
00:02:16.000For those who didn't watch yesterday, you can see the link in the description, but here's just a snapshot of the addresses.
00:05:00.000Someone else in charge should be doing this.
00:05:03.000The issue is the people who are in charge, not only those in government, but more powerful in government, in Twitter, say that's not allowed.
00:05:12.000We're not allowed, this to be clear here, because there are a lot of people out there who make claims, Donald Trump won the election, one nation under God.
00:05:19.000Look, you can't make that claim if you can't verify it.
00:05:22.000I will stand by this, and it's not just about my account being unlocked, it happened in record time, that post needs to be up.
00:05:30.000Because that is hard, factual information.
00:05:33.000And I would swear to it, and I'd stake my reputation on it.
00:05:55.000What are the limitations at that point?
00:05:57.000This is literally saying you cannot go through a process which would actually make most journalists blush and verify false election addresses and post it publicly.
00:06:11.000Can it only be unfounded opinions as it relates to election like the New York Times or Time Magazine?
00:06:17.000Because I don't know how you get more factual than this.
00:06:19.000And so to speak about this and the policy and the guidelines so you guys can understand better, we have my half-Asian lawyer, Bill Richman, who is here to talk about this today.
00:07:28.000By the way, I love how I tell everyone here, I'm like, look, be on your best behavior until Bill, my lawyer, leaves because he has to walk into court and he comes in and he's like, You're on it!
00:09:18.000So it says, we will label or remove false or misleading information intended to undermine
00:09:22.000public confidence in an election or other civic process.
00:09:25.000This includes, but is not limited to, disputed claims that could undermine faith in the process itself, such as unverified information about election rigging, ballot tampering, vote tallying, or certification of election results.
00:09:37.000I don't know how physically visiting addresses and posting that they don't exist with names of people in some cases who are in prison is undermining faith.
00:09:46.000It almost seems like this is designed to instill faith, people in themselves, to try and hold their elected officials accountable.
00:09:53.000Well, this is the example we talked about before, which is Think about the governments, or the processes, or anyone who says, you know what would make you feel good about this process is if I ignore all of the problems, the evidence of problems, I cover them up, and if you raise any question about them, I shoot you and I put you in a gulag.
00:10:14.000It sounds like some countries that we don't like.
00:10:16.000It sounds like some processes we don't like.
00:10:18.000And this is really what it comes down to.
00:10:21.000You have spent an extensive amount of time looking at these rules.
00:10:24.000As the rules get updated and changed, no matter how much we may disagree with them, you understand.
00:11:23.000And some people say, well, those were temporary voting booth setups, voter registration setups because of COVID in the middle of a freeway?
00:11:30.000I mean, in the middle of an apartment complex with a number that doesn't exist?
00:11:36.000In the middle of Mexican town, three feet away from a sign where a guy's wanted for murder?
00:11:43.000I do find this to be a really interesting question, which is, if you don't let verified information on, but you don't verify any of the information, nobody gets to talk about anything.
00:12:11.000When you get to the bigger context of what this looks like, if what they're saying is, well, you know, what we really need to do is we need to vet this information.
00:12:17.000We need to know if it's verified or unverified.
00:12:19.000Sure, if you want to send us some information, we'll take a look at it.
00:12:34.000They are walking backwards into the very thing they're trying to avoid and what is unclear is are they so oblivious to that that they're letting it happen or do they know that it's happening and for some reason they're unafraid of that consequence?
00:12:49.000Well I think it's important again for people to know there are people who have made claims.
00:12:53.000Bill sits me down and says, you literally can't make that claim, even if you do Google Earth, until you people physically go there and confirm it.
00:13:33.000Are they trying to say because some people stormed the Capitol at some point that me showing a voting address that doesn't exist is inciting people to violence when we've consistently told people to not be violent?
00:13:41.000As a matter of fact, condemned violence as it caused billions of dollars in damages across this country and raised six figures for a foundation for David Dorn?
00:13:52.000Didn't we just engage an entire multi-day theater over impeaching the president based on evidence that he was the one that caused it?
00:14:01.000So if he's the one that caused it, it wasn't tweets, it wasn't other speakers, it wasn't articles, it wasn't questioning a system to make sure that the system is good.
00:14:10.000Everyone on every side of this issue, every person in America, loves America, wants to come to a great America, wants to make sure that our voting systems are good.
00:14:19.000And if we can't raise questions... I don't agree with that.
00:14:22.000If we can't raise questions... No, I agree with that.
00:14:24.000I don't agree that everyone loves America.
00:14:25.000We didn't even use the inflammatory word peacefully in that show.
00:14:29.000I mean, we stayed way away from peaceful.
00:15:24.000I mean, the election results have already been certified, but what about, yeah, did
00:15:27.000You showed those, yeah, people like, well that's their policy, but I think we have collage D, which is Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi claiming victory before the election results had been certified.
00:15:38.000So the rules that they use not only could not apply to us at all, But they selectively didn't apply them to people who would be violating them.
00:15:45.000They claimed victory before the election was certified.
00:16:00.000This is the danger that everyone has to recognize when you put so much power into these tech companies who are then paying subcontractors minimum wage to review the tweets.
00:16:10.000If even that, they just got some AI bot chained up in the back and telling them, screw all of the types of things that are like that.
00:16:17.000All right, we don't like those either.
00:16:18.000But ultimately, this is the problem because there is no recourse.
00:16:41.000If you've left it to robots that you can't really figure out what they're doing, then you aren't acting in good faith.
00:16:46.000And if this post doesn't back up with full interactivity then we know that it's not in good faith because I'll explain sort of, I don't want to say the trap, but I'll explain what it is that we've laid here.
00:16:54.000We've gone to great lengths to ensure that it does not run afoul.
00:16:56.000Sometimes people go, why do you dance around it?
00:17:39.000We pointed out addresses that don't exist.
00:17:44.000You doxxed a median in Greektown in Detroit.
00:17:47.000I mean how does this, how does this, so did we doxxed, did we try and tell, and doxxing by the way is also with malicious intent of sending someone to someone's house.
00:17:55.000Well not only was there the anti-doxing, which I agree, I like that term, let's add it Webster's, but ultimately none of that was in the Twitter post.
00:18:09.000So when you look at all of the different rules, and the fact that we're even having to go through all of these is emblematic of the problem.
00:18:15.000They don't tell you what the problem is.
00:18:17.000You have to guess what the problem is.
00:18:19.000Even if you happen to guess what the false problem is, there's no one to talk to about it, and there's no way to undo it.
00:18:24.000But then afterwards, when it's all done, maybe they let you out of Twitter jail.
00:18:36.000So if it was so dangerous, if it was so inciting to violence, if it was such a clear violation of rules that you couldn't put the reason in the email, Why is it still a bit old?
00:18:45.000Like if it was Jeffrey Dahmer eating a guy in his, you know, junior apartment, and they're like, well, you know what, this is a violation.
00:19:27.000It's illegal to vote in a state you don't live in.
00:19:30.000We just looked at the addresses you listed and they They don't exist.
00:19:33.000And by the way, really quickly, also, Eric Swalwell, the professional banger of Chinese spies and chiefs, he did claim, that's collage E here, he claimed that Biden was the winner.
00:19:56.000Just include my last name in it, because we were trending accidentally.
00:19:58.000Thank you to Tim Pool for covering it.
00:20:00.000And by the way, in this case credit where it's due, thank you to YouTube for not taking it down, but we understood what YouTube's rules were.
00:20:05.000I think they're silly, but we still played by them and they didn't selectively enforce them.
00:20:12.000Let me be really clear about this here too.
00:20:14.000It doesn't mean that this is the only, these are the only examples of election fraud out there.
00:20:20.000It's the only thing that we can prove and that you can actually verifiably prove.
00:20:23.000For example, look, what we can do and what we did, we said, what is it that we could 100% testify to in court if we needed to?
00:20:30.000Go through the voter rolls, see if it's a deliverable address, see if it's the name, see if this person voted, do all that, then go to the address and see that it doesn't exist.
00:20:37.000This is the only thing we can prove because it's the only place we can physically visit.
00:20:42.000Now, this would be the smallest example of any potential irregularities out there.
00:20:48.000There is no system that I can use to see if...
00:22:49.000And wouldn't you say, like, hey, states, if you've got a problem with this address that we went to that didn't exist, and you say there's a house in the field that there's... Verify it.
00:23:14.000They're doing less of the, you know, we're going to put a silent thumb behind the scale because there are more eyes.
00:23:18.000So now they're going, okay, we're going to start sending some emails.
00:23:21.000We're going to tell you what's going on.
00:23:22.000And every time they make a step like this, whether it's Twitter or the other platforms, They're showing how their steps are mistaken, and then we can do something more about it, right?
00:23:31.000I mean, so many people have said, no, no, they don't do that.
00:23:34.000You hear them testifying in front of Congress.
00:23:35.000We'll tell you why if you're being restricted.
00:24:05.000This post needs to be publicly available.
00:24:08.000To remove that is to put your thumb on the scale of democracy, on the scale of this constitutional republic, and that's more important.
00:24:15.000If they want to put me in Twitter jail, if they said, look, we'll give you an agreement right now, You can no longer tweet, but we'll make sure that these posts, that this process you went through, these segments where you verify addresses will be up.
00:25:11.000Mr. Swalwell's choice number two is Madam.
00:25:15.000By the way, I think it's time for Governor Greg Abbott, I think it's time for Ted Cruz, I think it's time for Ben Crenshaw, have the same kind of guts that Florida's DeSantis had in saying, Big Tech, you can't do this to people in our state.
00:25:36.000I will tell you what, it's made our job just as hard from people who want to be patriots, I understand, but who don't do their own due diligence.
00:25:42.000They believe every single election fraud claim out there.
00:25:45.000I will tell you that this would definitely be the tip of the iceberg.
00:25:49.000If one, and we're going to get to a Clinton staffer by the way who just happened to be on that Rolodex yesterday, but if one were to, were to in any way orchestrate or one were to plan to try and not verify or be lax with the rules, The least commonly used tool would be to just have fake addresses.
00:26:08.000More common would be illegal immigrants, more common would be no signature verification, more common would be people underage, people who no one is paying attention to, people who are ineligible to vote, felons.
00:26:17.000So in one of those yesterday, just to be clear, in one of those it was someone who voted from an address that didn't exist Who is currently in jail and his address is currently listed as the county sheriff.
00:26:29.000If the government in, I don't know if that was Nevada or Michigan, if the government... That was Michigan.
00:26:39.000If the government were able to verify anything, if they just did a cross-reference, right, and goes, okay, well this vote came in, does that check out?
00:27:36.000Because if you had a team of people doing this, you could collect it.
00:27:40.000I just can't make that claim because of these rules because I'm not Time Magazine and full of crap.
00:27:44.000Well it's kind of like Trump's lawyer when he was talking to that ABC lady saying, so you're okay with just a little bit of doctored evidence?
00:27:50.000Are you okay with a little bit of voter fraud?
00:27:54.000We got 20 with an Asian intern who was listening to house music and horrible peripheral vision and a stand-up comedian from Detroit, period, because we're like, this was in our spare time!
00:28:07.000Investigative journalism at its finest.
00:28:09.000And by the way, while we're talking about election fraud, and we're talking about the standards, it also, Dinesh D'Souza did, he had a great quote when he was on my show, he said, it's not about, is there enforcement of the law, it's, is the law enforced equally?
00:33:05.000We'll get to this Clinton staffer who we just happen to include in the voter rolls in a little bit, but I would never claim that it comes from the top.
00:33:40.000What I want you to do is go to your local election websites, check out some addresses, and we have the steps as to what you can do at lightearthcutter.com.
00:33:47.000The steps that you can follow to verify, see if it's a deliverable address, and then see if... and just use Google Earth.
00:33:52.000We don't want you driving around neighborhoods.
00:35:09.000You can't comment on it right now at all, and you can't like it.
00:35:12.000Those are two things that help get your tweet out in public eye.
00:35:15.000We wouldn't want people seeing verified voter fraud.
00:35:18.000Only quote retweet it and then you're given all kinds of you know flashing screens and warnings to make sure you're not doing something wrong.
00:35:25.000I just happen to remember a story I think a reputable newspaper published hacked information from Donald Trump's tax returns.
00:35:32.000The reason we know it's hacked, he spent four years telling people to go screw themselves and gave them the finger and two weeks later put an entire newspaper locked out because their story was right.
00:35:41.000Not only that, came back and said hey that was our bad but by the way we will not let them have that tweet back.
00:36:33.000I don't think you understand anything.
00:36:35.000So, as we go on with factual information, of course it is, a lot of people don't know this, we celebrate our brothers and sisters, we had to get to that first, but it is, of course, Black History Month!
00:40:17.000Yeah, that's a baller forwarding address, by the way.
00:40:19.000So, one of them that we talked about yesterday was Christina Joy Raya Gupano, who was a fake voter, I believe, in Nevada, and here's a clip from us covering it yesterday.
00:40:32.000This is Christina Joy Raya Gupano, hopefully I'm getting that right, voted from 353 West Bonneville Avenue now.
00:41:06.000Like, the closest parking area was, like, right up at the end of that, and there was a government building, but the thing is, it's all private parking, so I couldn't actually park there and walk down, or I had to park, like, 20 minute walk away.
00:41:16.000So potentially, maybe, we have to, someone could have voted from that government building may have been the address?
00:41:22.000Like, literally, when I looked it up, like, when I looked it up on my car GPS and on Google Maps, it literally pointed to that highway, like, underpass.
00:43:33.000But her new postal address, we had Sarah, brilliant Sarah from the UK, do this research for us.
00:43:39.000New postal address is actually listed as being in London, while her most recent social media posts place her in places like the Philippines.
00:44:09.000This was a Clinton staffer in 2015 who violated laws, worked on the election in Nevada, was investigated, disappeared, went to London, where there is actually a fake address.
00:44:20.000She seems to be in the Philippines, and now she is voting.
00:44:54.000Someone, again, let me reiterate, 2015, violated laws, worked as a Clinton campaign staffer in Nevada, investigated for breaking laws, disappeared, London, fake address, then her name shows up at an address that doesn't exist.
00:45:05.000That is, there's no denying that's a fact, The question becomes, and I cannot answer this, who, if someone, because someone else entered in this vote, who would be motivated or who would think that this is the kind of information no one would think to double-check?
00:45:19.000Just take someone who worked for the Clinton staff campaign, was investigated, who hasn't been in the country for years, doesn't have a real address in London, let's pop her name in an address that doesn't exist in Nevada.
00:47:53.000Yeah, it doesn't take a whole lot to swing elections either.
00:47:55.000I'm not saying that it did in this case, we're just saying that it doesn't take a lot to do it.
00:47:58.000And by the way, what people should do right now, go to that original post that is on your page on Twitter right now, quote retweet it with the hashtag Free Crowder, but also tag your elected officials in it.
00:48:18.000I've got another one convinced I have power!
00:48:20.000It is amazing how many times, in all seriousness, you have to preface it with saying, I'm not saying the election was stolen, when on the other side against Trump you could just write whatever the hell you wanted.
00:48:31.000You had a guy trying to impeach him who was banging Chinese spies!
00:48:38.000This is exactly like a Seinfeld episode.
00:48:40.000Not that there's anything wrong with that.
00:48:42.000You tried to impeach Donald Trump initially.
00:48:44.000Remember how excited they got when they thought that Donald Trump, there was this false report that he was watching prostitutes peeing on furniture that was covered, you know, like they were in a Greek apartment in Detroit circa 60s.
00:49:32.000Speaking of which, this just goes to show you how the media gets on.
00:49:36.000They get to continue along just lying completely unfettered.
00:49:40.000Look, we've talked about what happened at the Capitol, and I think that anybody who showed up at the Capitol with intent to commit violence is a problem.
00:49:47.000I think that's a problem, and I think it was a very small group of people.
00:50:19.000The one nobody likes but who wasn't a dark enough shade to warn a VP spot.
00:50:25.000She immediately began, through questioning, spreading lies.
00:50:29.000Tragically, the attack on the Capitol also cost the lives of three brave officers, including Officer Brian Sicknick, who died from injuries sustained while engaging with protesters.
00:50:44.000You either have to believe, again, impossible, that these people don't have anyone who helped prepare them for these hearings before they go out there, or it's a lie.
00:50:51.000And I will tell you what, that is a lie.
00:50:53.000That's a lie because on Monday, Sicknick's mother said, What's going on?
00:51:32.000It does take time for Congresspersons, I should say, to get this.
00:51:38.000And just, you know, this is one thing, again, no accountability.
00:51:40.000The New York Times had to retract, we talked about this in their article, that originally claimed Sicknick had been bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher.
00:52:58.000It went from 3 to 5 to 7 and now back down to... Yeah, because it's mine.
00:53:02.000This is, I think, the third either heart attack or stroke now, as this has to be classified, that was not necessarily directly related to that.
00:53:12.000But you are standing up as a representative saying, this is horrible because it caused the deaths of these people and I'm the person to come in here and fix it and we hate Republicans.
00:54:09.000And a big reason we had to do it was because we looked at some of the claims that were being made in court from some of the Trump attorneys and we said, that's not accurate.
00:54:46.000Let's move on to, this is something that the media is not covering right now because they have Fauci on there, because that's all they have.
00:54:52.000We had this ready because it was an article from Washington Post, I think, maybe it was Wall Street Journal, and then we noticed that CNN covered this really, really quickly going into a break, and they didn't cover it when they came back from a break.
00:55:03.000So before we go to the clip, the first migrant facility for kids under Joe Biden opened up two days ago, right?
00:56:40.000That being said, the reason for it was because when parents are committing a crime but the kids aren't, you want to put the children in a facility that is far more comfortable than for the parents.
01:00:06.000The best thing you can do, like I said, is just comment, share this, get it up on Twitter, re-like these posts, because I wouldn't give you any information here if I didn't believe in it 100%.
01:00:16.000I would gladly go into court regarding these issues of voter fraud and make these claims
01:00:50.000Then it comes down to the opinions, where when they absolutely can't possibly fact check Donald Trump in a debate, it says, who built the cages, Joe?
01:00:57.000That fact check should read like all the other fact checks that you can see from all these mainstream websites in the debate, is actually those detention centers were created under Barack Obama as a result too later of the 97 floors consent policy.
01:01:08.000But instead, what they do is they'll fact check Donald Trump and ask him if he denounces white supremacists.
01:01:18.000You said yes, yes, but then you said stand by once, and then instead of fact-checking that Joe Biden, in fact, was part of the administration that built the cages, they just go, Donald Trump was being boorish.
01:01:29.000So it's not just, this is one thing that people have always asked me, they say, why don't you talk more about, like, Rachel Maddow, I don't care about MSNBC, I don't care about Salon, outside of when they're promoting actual pedophiles, which they did at Salon, and because of our researchers, we found them when the posts got removed, because look, I don't care if someone says that they're left.
01:01:45.000I don't care if someone has an opinion.
01:01:47.000What is far more corrosive to our constitutional republic, and you're seeing this right now with, I want to say, well, no one really cares about ABC, NBC, CNN anymore, but Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Amazon, Apple, the people who control all flow of information is they want to tell you, and they do tell you, Under penalty of perjury, which to me there should be some accountability at some point, that there is no bias.
01:02:40.000It's my preference, but at least I know what I'm watching.
01:02:43.000That's at least what needs to happen with big tech.
01:02:45.000When they are in control of all information that reaches you or that you send out that can reach other people, and they create rules and guidelines which are flagrantly In opposition of the law, this is what I want to leave you with, and then actually we have a great segment with Choi Jr.
01:03:08.000So there's the law right of the country, and then there are these social media laws.
01:03:14.000And here's the thing that I don't understand, because if they're a platform, if they're not a publisher, they should have to respect certain laws like consent laws.
01:03:20.000So, we've had this happen, I talked about this on Dave Rubin's show, where you can follow the law entirely, and it is in violation of social media guidelines, and then you can break the law, and it's acceptable.
01:03:32.000We've had videos where we've done man-in-the-street interviews, or we've done hidden camera interviews.
01:03:36.000This has happened, not interviews, but hidden camera segments.
01:03:39.000This is what used to be known as investigative journalism, right?
01:03:41.000You catch someone doing a crime, committing a crime, You catch them, and there are laws known as consent laws, meaning single-party consent states, where most states are single-party consent states, meaning you don't need someone's permission to film them or record a phone call.
01:03:55.000We have to do this research when we do the show.
01:03:57.000We'll go, ah, we can't go do a Change My Mind here, because unless we get their signatures, and then if they recant, we can't include it.
01:04:04.000So we have to be really careful about that, because we know these laws really well.
01:04:07.000I have a half-Asian entertainer, but I couldn't afford the Jew.
01:04:10.000But in some states with consent laws, you only have to be 16.
01:04:19.000So we've had videos where we've gone out, we've interviewed people, not even in camera segments, where we've interviewed people on camera who have said, I am willing to be on camera, in signed forms.
01:04:28.000And then gone to YouTube afterward and said, you know what, I actually don't like what I said, I want to be taken down.
01:04:33.000And they tell us that we're violating someone's privacy.
01:04:35.000And we say, hold on a second, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public area, and we can send you this person on camera in a written form saying, and they say, you know what, it doesn't matter.
01:04:44.000We have our own laws because we don't want anyone with a headache.
01:04:53.000Well, you know, you caught him, but he says that you didn't have permission for that phone call.
01:04:57.000So the issue here is it's not only a moving target with social media not enforcing their laws, their rules, their guidelines consistently, but sometimes it is in flagrant violation of the laws in which their company is founded.
01:05:12.000There is No way to do investigative journalism.
01:05:15.000And I think what's so sad to me, I wasn't mad about this.
01:05:18.000I was really sad because I had talked about this a long time ago, really back in 2009, I would say through 2012.
01:05:25.000That's why a big part of why I left Fox News was because I thought, well, listen, this is going to new media where we don't need a gatekeeper.
01:05:31.000And everyone was championing that, saying, the good thing now is Joe Rogan was one of the first podcasts.
01:05:36.000You don't need to be on the cable dial for people to hear you.