On this week's episode of No Cops: Topo Chico, a Mexican-American immigrant from the Bronx, joins the show to talk about what it's like to be a black cop in New York City. Plus, the removal of Confederate statues and the Macy's attack on Black Lives Matter activists.
00:01:50.000Do we need to do a sound check really quick?
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00:01:59.000Speaking of which, my half-Asian lawyer Bill Richman is here.
00:03:21.000Where do you line up on the Confederate statues that were being taken down?
00:03:24.000Do you think that people who didn't defend those statues sort of paved the way for George Washington and Jefferson coming down now, which was predicted but mocked?
00:04:32.000By the way, we'll also, a little bit later, we'll be showing this for people who are Mug Club members, how to defend yourself against a Macy's attack, because this happened.
00:09:29.000So here's the thing they were saying, because it's a black life.
00:09:31.000First off, the ambulance, the medics couldn't know that it's a black life.
00:09:34.000But there's also a reason, by the way, that you don't block cops from getting in, because the cops have to clear the way, legally of course, for the medics, the ambulance.
00:09:42.000And this is what was going on at the barricades at Chaz.
00:09:47.000Hey chief, hey chief, or whoever's on down there, the victim is left!
00:10:39.000There was a woman and a child in a building on fire, and they could see the fire department a few blocks away.
00:10:44.000The cops were clearing away for the fire department, and then the cop cars were completely blocked.
00:10:51.000So this is one of those things where you can say people are violent extremists, but let me ask you this as a genuine question.
00:10:55.000This is where we could see some kind of a fight back and some kind of a civil war from people who aren't militiamen.
00:11:02.000If you're a father and you know, and this actually happened, that your wife, the mother of your children, your child are in a house that is burning down and you can see the fire department and you can't get them out of the house and you see people blocking the cops so the fire department can't get through.
00:11:17.000Is that man a mad, is he a lone mad gunman if he starts taking people out to try and save his wife and child?
00:11:22.000I'm not saying that I advocate that, but I'm saying you are pushing people to extremes at this point where they will take extreme measures.
00:11:28.000This does not end well, and that is the rule.
00:11:32.000Medics, paramedics, ambulances, particularly in areas where there's violence, it has to be cleared by the police.
00:11:38.000Otherwise, you have any idea how easy it would be to be like, oh, I've been shot!
00:11:45.000Exactly, and by the way, every time that vehicles with flashing lights approach these peaceful protests, they tend not to do well.
00:11:51.000They tend to get set on fire, they tend to get turned over, their windows get busted out.
00:11:56.000We've seen video of this from everywhere.
00:11:57.000Why would you want these guys to put their lives at risk when every time they do, you hate them and you try to do stuff to them?
00:12:04.000Maybe kill them, hurt them, destroy their property, whatever.
00:12:06.000Right, that's why I advocate that we should put a charged electric current on all vehicles with flashing lights so it's like a human fly sound.
00:12:24.000You know what the guy said at the very end?
00:12:26.000He goes, if it was your kid in there, you would bust through that barrier.
00:12:30.000Basically, he just said, take your vehicle and run over those people that are blocking the road, that we thought was a good idea!
00:12:35.000Well, when you look at AOC, people say, it's never okay for police, it's never okay for police to run over protesters.
00:12:41.000In the case of that one area in New York, they actually, I thought it was brilliant, they used the, what do you call those, like metal barriers, that are, like a metal barrier, the protesters were in front, so he got specifically behind the metal barrier and went, vroom!
00:12:52.000And the metal barrier went flying, so they all went perfectly perpendicular to the ground, backward, like they had been hadoukened, and went back, and the cop went through.
00:13:00.000Like, there's never an excuse for this.
00:13:02.000What if the medics are trying to come in behind them to save lives?
00:13:06.000What if that person, by the way, we don't know, what if the medics had gotten to him sooner, and he didn't have to die?
00:13:13.000And I explain for people who don't know, there's clear precedent there, that's what they have to The issue becomes, for example, if you were to say, well, oh, I'm blocked on the highway and I'm not going to move out of the way of emergency vehicles.
00:13:24.000Everyone is taught from a young age you need to clear the way for emergency vehicles.
00:13:28.000It pushes people to the edge to say, especially when you can see that, right, okay, the fire truck's not there, it's too far away, the ambulance isn't even there yet, whatever, they're dealing with protesters in other parts of the city, okay.
00:13:40.000But to be able to see it And then, even if you just had the dad run down there and start pushing people out of the way in the example that you gave, in any of those examples, you're asking for a time in which you're having to pit one life against the other, and all they're doing is protecting their, you know, little garden.
00:13:56.000I think people really misconstrue when I say, you forfeit your right to live.
00:14:01.000There's a difference between that and you deserve to die.
00:14:03.000In other words, you punch someone in the face on a sidewalk where they can bounce their head off the concrete, you hold a knife to someone where it's their life or yours, you put them in a situation where there's a reasonable assumption that they could be killed, you forfeit your right to live in that that person is justified in taking measures to protect their own life, and you could be the victim of an accident.
00:14:21.000You could just as easily kill him, not bounce his head off the concrete, and he could just as easily bounce your head off the concrete.
00:14:27.000You could just as easily reach in and shoot that medic, which happens, or they could just as easily accidentally run you over.
00:15:55.000Let's see what CNN is going on because there's Walking Basset Hound there who looks really... ...into a damaging future if Trump were re-elected.
00:16:02.000You've served in the military, intelligence government for 50 years.
00:17:02.000They didn't want the America that you have.
00:17:03.000But I don't think that you should be taking down all of these statues and monuments.
00:17:07.000I think if a municipality wants to vote and say, hey, we want to change that statue through the legal process, who am I to stop that district from doing that?
00:17:15.000But there needs to be a vote, and it needs to come from the public.
00:17:17.000And I think you probably get half and half depending where you are.
00:17:20.000You cannot erase all history because it's somewhat offensive.
00:17:24.000And I understand many people say, well, the Confederacy fought for slavery.
00:18:27.000You ever seen like, you know, like all those funny videos, like, look at my kid, which is really just like, Hey, my kid, isn't he such an idiot?
00:19:00.000So, in other words, if you're going to stop a slippery slope argument, and by the way, just because it's a common argument doesn't mean it's a logical fallacy.
00:19:06.000We talked about that with making, okay, if gender is now cultural, and sex is biological, but then you can be born into the wrong sex, and you include sort of, well, I'm attracted to men, therefore I'm same sex, but sex is biological, and you go, well, hold on a second, this is all going to deconstruct, and now we see that.
00:19:21.000The Supreme Court ruled that sex is how you feel.
00:19:27.000So now we're at the point where gender and sex are one and the same, right?
00:19:29.000So there's a valid argument sometimes with the slippery slope.
00:19:33.000The counter-argument has to be, hey, this is where it stops, but you have to draw your line.
00:19:38.000And what he's doing is just applying their logic to a different situation, right?
00:19:42.000So if you're taking down Robert E. Lee because he was a Southerner who owned slaves, then you have to take down Jefferson because he was a Southerner who owned slaves.
00:19:47.000So take the same logic, apply it to a different person.
00:19:51.000And yeah, and they might have argued, well, he wasn't fighting for slavery.
00:19:55.000But here's the thing, it doesn't matter because now they want to take down Abraham Lincoln.
00:19:58.000But here I think we actually have, yeah, we have a clip of what Christopher Columbus, Thomas Jefferson, George... So here it is, John Oliver!
00:20:04.000It's been the target of vandals for years and today it's gone.
00:20:08.000Mayor Duggan ordering the statue of Christopher Columbus be removed from its perch at Jefferson and Randolph and put into storage.
00:20:15.000We've got brand new video here but coming down today.
00:20:20.000A Fox 12 viewer sent us this video of the statue of the nation's third president as it was pulled down.
00:20:26.000While Thomas Jefferson wrote, all men are created equal, he also owned as many as 600 slaves during his lifetime and fathered slave children.
00:21:10.000We said, well, is it going to be George Washington?
00:21:12.000Is it going to be Jefferson, who, by the way, many of them procured slaves from African slave traders, if you look at a lot of the Founding Fathers, because that's where the slave trade started, and the Middle East.
00:21:19.000People said, no, no, no, because that's a different... Well, now they want to get rid of that.
00:21:22.000But then it continues to places that people don't even make sense They're going to remove the Teddy Roosevelt statue from the Museum of Natural History!
00:21:51.000Teddy Roosevelt, there are some speeches here that you can actually read.
00:21:55.000But the attitude of the North toward the Negro is far from what it should be, and there is need that the North also should act in good faith upon the principle of giving to each man what is justly due him, of treating him on his worth as a man, granting him no special favors, but denying him no proper opportunity for labor and the reward of labor.
00:22:12.000And this comes from, I believe, National Geographic.
00:22:15.000In his argument for racial equality, Roosevelt used the rising tide raises all ships metaphor, stating that if morality and thrift among the colored men can be raised, then those same virtues among whites, already assumed at that point to be more advanced, not meaning as humans, but advanced economically, would rise to an even higher degree.
00:22:31.000At the same time, he warned that the debasement of blacks will in the end carry with it the debasement of whites.
00:22:36.000This was something Roosevelt spoke out against racism and talked about That's how everyone needed to be provided.
00:24:07.000Yeah, I was just watching The Politician, the new season, and I can't really watch it because Bette Midler is just... You know there's a gay director there who's just like, just let her go with it.
00:24:15.000And Bette Midler is doing her hocus pocus.
00:24:23.000But everything in there is like, you sit and you go, this is so comical from the left, the environmentalism and the LGBTQAIP.
00:24:29.000You think that maybe it's written by someone who's a libertarian with balance, and then you realize that can't be the case.
00:24:34.000When they actually are canceling, in this series, a man running for office because as a six-year-old he dressed as Geronimo, you think, oh this must be a joke.
00:24:42.000But he actually gives a speech like, I should have known better and I didn't and I apologize.
00:24:45.000I'm going, this is an industry That cancels people because they've actually gone out and said, hey, you know what?
00:24:51.000We should all come together as one nation.
00:24:53.000So you realize there can be no balance in this industry.
00:24:56.000And this is what's happening right now because people believe this about Washington and Jefferson.
00:24:59.000I want to get some quotes here from Washington and Jefferson who reviled slavery.
00:26:21.000When you think about Mecca, when you think about what it symbolizes, this is a guy who could have had the opportunity to speak out or free his slaves, all of them upon his death.
00:28:03.000He also did some bad stuff, so let's talk about that too.
00:28:05.000What used to be those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
00:28:07.000Now it's those who do not tear down and erase all history from the books that might be slightly offensive by today's standards are cancelled.
00:28:16.000Confucius say, you know what I'm talking about.
00:28:18.000So here's some quotes from Washington and Jefferson, because Washington specifically freed his slaves upon his death.
00:28:22.000And when people say, oh, Jefferson had slaved children, we can get into that, and we'll get into that with David Barton later on.
00:28:27.000Concerning the path Washington desired to see the states choose, he emphatically declared, this is from Washington, I can only say that there is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do to see a plan adopted for the abolition of slavery.
00:28:39.000But there is only one proper and effectual mode by which it can be accomplished, Jefferson's efforts to end slavery were written about before the American Revolution.
00:28:46.000and support will go shall never be wanting."
00:28:48.000And then Jefferson's efforts to end slavery were written about before the American Revolution.
00:28:56.000He wrote, in 1769, I became a member of the legislature by the choice of the county in