Louder with Crowder - March 29, 2021


DEREK CHAUVIN TRIAL LIVESTREAM: Opening Arguments! | Louder with Crowder


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 39 minutes

Words per Minute

179.75423

Word Count

39,495

Sentence Count

3,810

Misogynist Sentences

95

Hate Speech Sentences

69


Summary

On this episode of the podcast, we have a story about a police officer shooting a man in the backseat of his car. The story is about a man who has been shot multiple times before and is resisting arrest.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 You see your hands?
00:00:29.000 Stay in the car, let me see your other hand!
00:00:32.000 Let me see your other hand!
00:00:33.000 Both hands!
00:00:34.000 Put your fucking hands up right now!
00:00:37.000 Let me see your other hand!
00:00:41.000 Put your hand up there!
00:00:43.000 Put your fucking hand up there!
00:00:45.000 Jesus Christ, keep your fucking hands on the wheel!
00:00:48.000 Keep your fucking hands on the wheel!
00:00:52.000 I'm sorry, Mr. Officer.
00:00:53.000 I got shot.
00:00:53.000 That's my friend.
00:00:53.000 I'm sorry, Mr. Officer.
00:00:54.000 I'm so sorry.
00:00:54.000 God dang, man.
00:00:55.000 Man, I got shot the same way, Mr. Officer, before.
00:00:56.000 I'm sorry.
00:00:56.000 Man, I'm so sorry, Mr. Officer.
00:00:59.000 Man, dang, man.
00:01:00.000 Man, I got shot the same way as I was before.
00:01:03.000 Okay, well when I say let me see your hands, you put your fucking hands up.
00:01:06.000 I'm so sorry, Mr. Officer.
00:01:08.000 You got him?
00:01:09.000 Man, dang, man.
00:01:10.000 Put your hands on top of your head.
00:01:12.000 Put my hands, Officer.
00:01:13.000 Man.
00:01:14.000 The last time I got shot like that, Mr. Officer.
00:01:17.000 Hands on top of your head.
00:01:18.000 Hands on top of your head.
00:01:20.000 Step out of the vehicle and step away from me, alright?
00:01:25.000 Step out and face away.
00:01:27.000 Step out and face away.
00:01:29.000 Please don't shoot me.
00:01:30.000 Please, man.
00:01:30.000 I'm not going to shoot you.
00:01:31.000 Step out and face away.
00:01:32.000 I'm going to get out of here, man.
00:01:34.000 Please don't shoot me, man.
00:01:37.000 I just lost my mom, man.
00:01:39.000 Step out and face away.
00:01:42.000 I'm so sorry.
00:01:43.000 Step out and face away.
00:01:45.000 Please don't shoot me, Mr. Officer.
00:01:46.000 Please.
00:01:47.000 Don't shoot me, man.
00:01:48.000 Step out and face away.
00:01:49.000 Can you not shoot me, man?
00:01:49.000 I'm not shooting you.
00:01:50.000 Step out and face away.
00:01:51.000 Okay.
00:01:51.000 Please.
00:01:51.000 Please.
00:01:52.000 Please, man.
00:01:52.000 Please.
00:01:52.000 Please.
00:01:53.000 I didn't know, man.
00:01:54.000 Stop.
00:01:54.000 Get out of the car.
00:01:55.000 I didn't know, Mr. Officer.
00:01:56.000 I didn't know, man.
00:01:57.000 Get out of the car.
00:01:58.000 I didn't know, Mr. Officer.
00:01:59.000 I didn't know, man.
00:01:59.000 Get out of the car.
00:02:00.000 I didn't know, Mr. Officer.
00:02:01.000 I didn't know, man.
00:02:01.000 Get out of the car.
00:02:02.000 I didn't know, Mr. Officer.
00:02:03.000 I didn't know, man.
00:02:04.000 Get out of the car.
00:02:05.000 I didn't know, Mr. Officer.
00:02:05.000 I didn't know, man.
00:02:06.000 Get out of the car.
00:02:06.000 I didn't know, Mr. Officer.
00:02:07.000 I didn't know, Mr. Officer.
00:02:08.000 I didn't know, Mr.
00:02:09.000 Hey!
00:02:09.000 Don't come back!
00:02:10.000 Stay in the car!
00:02:11.000 Stop resisting man!
00:02:12.000 Yes you are!
00:02:12.000 Hey, you come back, stay in the car.
00:02:25.000 Stop resisting man.
00:02:26.000 Yes you are.
00:02:27.000 Get us a wall.
00:02:37.000 Who, me?
00:02:38.000 Yes.
00:02:39.000 What am I doing?
00:02:40.000 We're figuring out what's going on.
00:02:41.000 Drop the bag.
00:02:42.000 Figuring out what's going on?
00:02:44.000 What's your problem?
00:02:46.000 It ain't us.
00:02:46.000 I just got my phone fixed.
00:02:47.000 We was getting a ride, sir. I just got my phone fixed. You can ask Adam on me. Adam on me. Are you good?
00:02:57.000 Do you have ID?
00:02:58.000 You can ask Mr. Adam if I meet him.
00:03:05.000 I'm on 38th and Chicago.
00:03:08.000 320, report for us.
00:03:10.000 You can ask Mr. Adam if I meet him, sir.
00:03:12.000 I just came and bought a tablet.
00:03:14.000 And when I bought a tablet, it didn't work.
00:03:17.000 Oh my God!
00:03:18.000 He didn't even do nothing!
00:03:20.000 Here you go, sir.
00:03:22.000 Do you have ID?
00:03:24.000 No, I don't.
00:03:25.000 My name's Shawanda Lane Hill.
00:03:27.000 Fuck, no.
00:03:29.000 Sir, I just came over to get my phone to see if I have a purse or nothing.
00:03:33.000 And my daughter is on her way to get me.
00:03:36.000 What's his deal?
00:03:38.000 I don't know.
00:03:39.000 That's my ex.
00:03:41.000 I don't know.
00:03:41.000 Why is he getting all squirrely and not showing his companions and just being all weird like that?
00:03:45.000 Because he's been shot before.
00:03:47.000 Well, I get that, but still, when officers say get out of the car, is he drunk?
00:03:50.000 Is he on something?
00:03:51.000 No, he got a thing going on.
00:03:53.000 I'm telling you about the police.
00:03:54.000 What does that mean?
00:03:55.000 We have problems all the time when they come, especially when that man is with that gun like that.
00:03:59.000 It's been one.
00:04:01.000 He's pretty good.
00:04:02.000 George Floyd.
00:04:04.000 He's a good guy.
00:04:06.000 George Floyd, she said.
00:04:09.000 I don't know if it's George.
00:04:11.000 What's your name?
00:04:12.000 My name is, oh, my name!
00:04:13.000 Your name, yeah.
00:04:14.000 Shawanda Renee Hill.
00:04:15.000 Can you spell it?
00:04:16.000 S-H-A-W-A-N-D-A.
00:04:16.000 S-H-A-W-A-N-D-A.
00:04:17.000 He got it right, sir.
00:04:18.000 Yeah, he okay.
00:04:19.000 Put him in the car.
00:04:20.000 Shawanda what?
00:04:21.000 Hill.
00:04:21.000 R-E-N-E-E.
00:04:21.000 What's your last name?
00:04:22.000 Hill.
00:04:22.000 Yeah, he okay.
00:04:24.000 Hey, put him in the car.
00:04:26.000 Mr. Adam...
00:04:30.000 Shawanda what?
00:04:32.000 Renee. R-E-N-E-E.
00:04:34.000 What's your last name?
00:04:36.000 And your date of birth?
00:04:38.000 If y'all coming to get me, 1-27-75.
00:04:40.000 Okay.
00:04:42.000 Okay, well...
00:04:44.000 So here's the thing.
00:04:45.000 Someone passed a fake bill in there.
00:04:48.000 We come over here.
00:04:49.000 He starts grabbing for the keys and all that stuff.
00:04:51.000 Starts getting weird, not showing us his hands.
00:04:53.000 I don't know what's going on.
00:04:54.000 So you're coming out of the car.
00:04:55.000 So just hang tight right here.
00:04:56.000 Stay right here, please.
00:04:57.000 Ouch!
00:04:58.000 Ouchie, man!
00:04:59.000 Are you on something right now?
00:05:00.000 I'm not on nothing!
00:05:01.000 Let's go.
00:05:03.000 Let's go.
00:05:03.000 Yes!
00:05:04.000 You want something right now? No, nothing. You actually already. Let's go. Let's go.
00:05:09.000 Yes, yes, I was just moving earlier. Let's go.
00:05:14.000 All right, let me calm down now.
00:05:18.000 It's a little better now.
00:05:19.000 Keep walking.
00:05:20.000 Okay, do me one favor, man.
00:05:21.000 No, when we get to the car, let's get to the car, man.
00:05:23.000 Come on.
00:05:24.000 Dang, man.
00:05:26.000 Oh, man.
00:05:29.000 God, I don't need it, man.
00:05:30.000 Please, man, I don't need it, man.
00:05:32.000 Here.
00:05:33.000 I want to watch that car too.
00:05:34.000 So get up in the front locker.
00:05:36.000 I don't need that.
00:05:38.000 Stand up.
00:05:39.000 Stop falling down.
00:05:40.000 I'm about to fall again.
00:05:41.000 Stand up.
00:05:42.000 I'm about to fall again.
00:05:43.000 Stay on your feet and face the car door.
00:05:45.000 Please, man.
00:05:46.000 You get a second?
00:05:47.000 Please.
00:05:47.000 No.
00:05:48.000 I don't need that.
00:05:48.000 Get out the car.
00:05:49.000 I just want to talk to you, man.
00:05:51.000 Please, let me talk to you.
00:05:52.000 Please.
00:05:52.000 You ain't listening to nothing I'm saying.
00:05:56.000 Can you watch that car?
00:05:57.000 Just make sure no one goes in it.
00:05:59.000 I hear you, but you are going to face the door right now.
00:06:02.000 Listen up.
00:06:02.000 Stop.
00:06:02.000 I don't do anything.
00:06:03.000 That's the only thing y'all tell me to do, man.
00:06:05.000 I'm not a listener, man.
00:06:07.000 I'm not.
00:06:08.000 I'm not.
00:06:09.000 You can ask him.
00:06:10.000 He know me.
00:06:10.000 Check that side.
00:06:11.000 God, man.
00:06:12.000 I don't do nothing like that, y'all.
00:06:14.000 Why is it going on like this?
00:06:16.000 Look at my wrist, Mr. Officer!
00:06:17.000 I'm not that kind of guy!
00:06:18.000 Mr. Officer!
00:06:20.000 I'm not that kind of guy!
00:06:21.000 Please!
00:06:22.000 I'm not that kind of guy, Mr. Officer!
00:06:24.000 Please!
00:06:25.000 Please, man!
00:06:29.000 Don't leave me by myself, man!
00:06:30.000 Please!
00:06:31.000 I'm just claustrophobic!
00:06:32.000 That's it!
00:06:32.000 Well, you're still going in the car.
00:06:36.000 Anything sharp on you?
00:06:37.000 I won't do nothing to hurt y'all, Mr. Officer.
00:06:39.000 You found anything sharp on you?
00:06:40.000 No, sir.
00:06:40.000 Not even like a comb or nothing?
00:06:41.000 Nothing, Mr. Officer.
00:06:42.000 I don't have nothing.
00:06:43.000 Why y'all doing me like that, Mr. Officer?
00:06:45.000 Please crack it, do it for me and stuff, man.
00:06:48.000 I am claustrophobic for real, Mr. Officer.
00:06:49.000 You got him?
00:06:50.000 Could you please crack it for me, please?
00:06:51.000 Yes, I'll crack it.
00:06:52.000 Stay with me, man.
00:06:53.000 I will, I will.
00:06:53.000 Please stay with me, man.
00:06:54.000 Thank you.
00:06:56.000 God, man.
00:06:56.000 I didn't know all this was gonna happen, man.
00:06:59.000 Please, man.
00:07:00.000 I didn't want my ass beat.
00:07:01.000 Wrong with none of y'all, man.
00:07:03.000 Nothing.
00:07:04.000 You got that inside in your pocket real quick?
00:07:07.000 I'm listening.
00:07:08.000 I understand that people do stuff.
00:07:12.000 Alright, he's good.
00:07:13.000 This is John's work.
00:07:14.000 He knows nothing but work.
00:07:16.000 Okay, okay, okay.
00:07:17.000 Grab a seat.
00:07:18.000 Guys, I'm having trouble walking because that was my car.
00:07:20.000 I'll roll the windows down, okay?
00:07:21.000 Please, man.
00:07:22.000 Please don't do this.
00:07:23.000 Take a seat.
00:07:23.000 I'm going in, mister.
00:07:24.000 I'm going in.
00:07:25.000 No, you're not.
00:07:25.000 I gotta go in.
00:07:26.000 Take a seat.
00:07:27.000 I don't believe you, mister.
00:07:27.000 Grab a seat, man.
00:07:28.000 Take a seat.
00:07:29.000 I'm not that kind of guy.
00:07:31.000 I'm not that kind of guy, man.
00:07:32.000 Take a seat.
00:07:33.000 Y'all, I'm gonna die in here.
00:07:34.000 Take a seat.
00:07:35.000 I'm gonna die, man.
00:07:36.000 You need to take a seat right now.
00:07:37.000 And I just had COVID, man.
00:07:38.000 I don't want to go back to that.
00:07:39.000 Take a seat.
00:07:39.000 Okay, I'll roll the windows down.
00:07:40.000 No.
00:07:41.000 Hey, listen.
00:07:41.000 Dang, man.
00:07:42.000 Listen.
00:07:43.000 I'm not that kind of guy.
00:07:44.000 I'll roll the windows down and stick my legs in, all right?
00:07:47.000 I'll lock the air on.
00:07:47.000 Y'all need to stop.
00:07:48.000 Look at that.
00:07:48.000 Look at that.
00:07:48.000 Look at it.
00:07:50.000 We can fix it, but not while you're standing up.
00:07:52.000 Okay, man.
00:07:53.000 God, y'all doing me bad, man.
00:07:56.000 Man, I know.
00:07:56.000 I don't want to try to win.
00:07:57.000 I don't want to try to win.
00:08:00.000 I don't want to win.
00:08:01.000 I'm claustrophobic.
00:08:02.000 I'm claustrophobic and I got anxiety.
00:08:04.000 I don't want to do nothing now.
00:08:06.000 Man, I'm scared as fuck, man.
00:08:09.000 When I start breathing, when I start breathing, it's going to go off on me, man.
00:08:12.000 Okay, okay, okay.
00:08:14.000 Let me count to three.
00:08:15.000 Let me count to three and I'm going in.
00:08:16.000 Please.
00:08:17.000 I'm not trying to win.
00:08:18.000 I'm not trying to win.
00:08:20.000 I'll get on the ground or anything.
00:08:22.000 I can't stand this shit, man.
00:08:23.000 He know it.
00:08:24.000 He know it from the start.
00:08:27.000 It was hard.
00:08:28.000 Okay, can I talk to you, please?
00:08:30.000 It was hard.
00:08:30.000 We can talk.
00:08:31.000 I'm claustrophobic.
00:08:33.000 I'm telling you, but you're not working with me.
00:08:35.000 God, I'm claustrophobic!
00:08:36.000 Get in the car!
00:08:38.000 Get in the car!
00:08:40.000 No, you're not getting in the car!
00:08:41.000 I'm claustrophobic!
00:08:42.000 Get in the car!
00:08:43.000 Okay, man, okay!
00:08:44.000 I'm not a bad guy, man!
00:08:45.000 Get in the car!
00:08:46.000 I'm not a bad guy!
00:08:48.000 I can't joke!
00:08:49.000 I can't breathe!
00:08:50.000 Bleed it! I hope I'm not double!
00:08:52.000 Bleed it, I hope I'm not double!
00:08:53.000 Bleed, snitch, bleed!
00:08:54.000 Take a seat!
00:08:55.000 Bleed, mate! Bleed!
00:08:57.000 No, I have to take a seat!
00:08:58.000 I can't! I can't jump!
00:09:00.000 I can't breathe without it!
00:09:02.000 Bleed! Bleed it!
00:09:04.000 My wrist, man!
00:09:04.000 My wrist!
00:09:04.000 My wrist, man!
00:09:05.000 I'm gonna lay on the ground!
00:09:05.000 Please!
00:09:05.000 I can't take this, man!
00:09:05.000 I can't!
00:09:24.000 Hit me, that's why.
00:09:25.000 I'm going down.
00:09:26.000 I'm going down.
00:09:27.000 I'm not going to breathe in.
00:09:28.000 Bro, you looked out of heart attack shit, man.
00:09:29.000 Get in the car.
00:09:30.000 I'm not going to breathe.
00:09:31.000 Get in the car.
00:09:32.000 I'm not going to breathe.
00:09:33.000 I can't breathe!
00:09:56.000 I can't breathe Please, man!
00:09:59.000 Hey, come on out!
00:09:59.000 I can't fucking breathe!
00:10:00.000 I can't fucking breathe!
00:10:02.000 Yeah, just when you get up the... On the ground!
00:10:05.000 I appreciate that, I do.
00:10:06.000 You gotta turn around.
00:10:12.000 I can't breathe!
00:10:13.000 Thank you.
00:10:30.000 Mama!
00:10:36.000 You're the last guy.
00:10:37.000 Alright.
00:10:38.000 Alright.
00:10:38.000 Oh my God.
00:10:40.000 I can't believe this.
00:10:45.000 You're a rescue.
00:10:47.000 All right.
00:10:48.000 All right.
00:10:49.000 Oh my God.
00:10:50.000 I can't believe this.
00:10:55.000 I can't believe this, baby.
00:10:56.000 Mama, I love you.
00:10:57.000 I love you.
00:10:58.000 I love you.
00:10:59.000 Reese, I love you.
00:11:00.000 You got hobble?
00:11:01.000 Yeah, my kids, I love them.
00:11:02.000 Mine's in my side.
00:11:03.000 It's listed.
00:11:04.000 It's labeled.
00:11:04.000 It says hobble.
00:11:07.000 It's on the top.
00:11:07.000 I can't breathe for nothing, man.
00:11:09.000 It's cold-blooded, man.
00:11:11.000 Mama, I love you.
00:11:13.000 I'm doing a lot of hobbling.
00:11:19.000 Mama I love you.
00:11:21.000 I can't do nothing.
00:11:23.000 My face is gone.
00:11:25.000 I can't breathe man.
00:11:27.000 I can't breathe man.
00:11:28.000 Please!
00:11:30.000 Please let me stand!
00:11:32.000 Get up to the sidewalk please, one side or the other.
00:11:40.000 My face getting bad!
00:11:41.000 Oh my God!
00:11:47.000 Hopefully Park's still sitting in the car.
00:11:49.000 He was actually very able to see anyone else in there.
00:11:52.000 I'm assuming so.
00:11:54.000 He wouldn't get out of the car.
00:11:56.000 He wasn't following instructions.
00:11:59.000 Yeah, it's across the street. Park's watching.
00:12:01.000 Two other people with him.
00:12:03.000 I probably still have it.
00:12:10.000 Deep breath.
00:12:12.000 I can't breathe.
00:12:27.000 You're talking.
00:12:28.000 Deep breath.
00:12:29.000 I can't breathe.
00:12:31.000 I can't breathe.
00:12:33.000 I'm about to die.
00:12:41.000 Relax.
00:12:42.000 I can't breathe my face.
00:12:44.000 Just get up.
00:12:45.000 He's gotta be on something.
00:12:47.000 What do you want?
00:12:48.000 I can't breathe.
00:12:48.000 Please believe me.
00:12:50.000 I can't breathe shit.
00:12:52.000 Get up and get in the car, man.
00:12:54.000 I will.
00:12:54.000 Get up and get in the car.
00:12:58.000 I can't move.
00:13:01.000 Get up and get in the car.
00:13:02.000 You found a weed pipe on him?
00:13:03.000 There might be something else with it.
00:13:04.000 Might be like PCP or something.
00:13:07.000 Is that the shaking of the eyes, right, as PCP?
00:13:11.000 Or their eyes, like, shake back and forth really fast?
00:13:19.000 My stomach hurts.
00:13:20.000 My neck hurts.
00:13:22.000 Everything hurts.
00:13:22.000 I need some water or something.
00:13:27.000 Please.
00:13:28.000 Please.
00:13:29.000 I can't breathe, officer.
00:13:34.000 You're gonna kill me.
00:13:37.000 Excuse me, ma'am.
00:13:41.000 Come on, man.
00:13:45.000 I cannot breathe.
00:13:53.000 I cannot breathe. I cannot breathe.
00:13:55.000 Ahh! Ahh! Ahh!
00:14:00.000 You... Ahh! Ahh!
00:14:06.000 They'll kill me. They'll kill me.
00:14:09.000 I can't breathe.
00:14:11.000 Ahh! Ahh!
00:14:14.000 They'll kill me.
00:14:21.000 I can't breathe.
00:14:23.000 I can't breathe.
00:14:28.000 Please, sir.
00:14:31.000 Please.
00:14:39.000 I just worry about the delirium or whatever.
00:14:42.000 That's fine, I'm just coming.
00:14:45.000 I just worry about the delirium or whatever.
00:14:52.000 That's probably a million dollars.
00:14:54.000 Okay, that's awesome.
00:14:56.000 Well, it's just hard to get them off the ground.
00:14:58.000 They're being a bum right now.
00:14:59.000 You can't get them off the ground, bro.
00:15:01.000 You can't get them off the ground.
00:15:02.000 You're being a bum right now.
00:15:03.000 He's enjoying that shit.
00:15:06.000 He's enjoying that shit.
00:15:08.000 He's a fucking bum, bro.
00:15:09.000 He's enjoying that shit right now, bro.
00:15:11.000 You could've fucking hit him in the car by now, bro.
00:15:14.000 He's not in the mood for this shit.
00:15:16.000 He's enjoying the shit that's being played.
00:15:18.000 His body language is crazy.
00:15:20.000 .
00:15:27.000 You think that's cool?
00:15:28.000 You know that's bogus right now, bro.
00:15:31.000 You know it's bogus.
00:15:32.000 You came in like a major, you know, boss, bro.
00:15:35.000 You're not in a position to rest right now.
00:15:37.000 You know?
00:15:38.000 Yeah, I think he's pissed off.
00:15:40.000 You're in a position to sleep right now, bro.
00:15:42.000 You think that's cool?
00:15:43.000 You think that's cool, you know, right?
00:15:45.000 What's your position?
00:15:46.000 The police is available at the exit start for a small town.
00:15:48.000 Next door to 2313 Washington Street.
00:15:51.000 Is that a right turn?
00:15:52.000 Yeah, I mean, I know you might be a little scratched, but I'll survive.
00:15:56.000 I'll survive.
00:15:58.000 He's breathing.
00:16:07.000 All right.
00:16:11.000 Get the fuck out of here.
00:16:13.000 What the fuck?
00:16:15.000 I'm not leaving, bro.
00:16:17.000 Get the fuck out of here.
00:16:20.000 Don't come over here.
00:16:23.000 Don't come over here.
00:16:24.000 Up on the sidewalk.
00:16:25.000 He's not responsive right now.
00:16:27.000 He's not responsive right now.
00:16:30.000 He's not responsive right now, bro.
00:16:33.000 Look at him.
00:16:35.000 He's not responsive right now, bro.
00:16:38.000 Yo, look at him. He's not responsive right now, bro.
00:16:42.000 Bro, are you serious? He's gonna do that?
00:16:45.000 He's gonna put that on his head, bro?
00:16:46.000 Is he breathing right now?
00:16:49.000 Check his pulse.
00:16:50.000 Check his pulse.
00:16:51.000 Check his pulse now.
00:16:52.000 Check his pulse, bro.
00:16:54.000 Check his pulse, bro.
00:16:55.000 What is that?
00:16:57.000 What do you think that is?
00:16:58.000 You told him to call when he's doing okay?
00:17:01.000 You called when he's doing okay?
00:17:03.000 You saw your phone. What are you doing? Okay, you thought you probably doing.
00:17:09.000 Okay, bro. I am. Okay.
00:17:13.000 You're a bum, bro.
00:17:14.000 You're definitely a bum, bro.
00:17:16.000 What's up, Chet?
00:17:18.000 Chet, the man ain't moved yet, bro.
00:17:20.000 The man ain't moved yet, bro.
00:17:22.000 He's not moving yet, please.
00:17:24.000 Bro, you're a bum, bro.
00:17:26.000 You're a bum, bro.
00:17:28.000 You're definitely a bum, bro.
00:17:30.000 330, EMS is at Portland at 36.
00:17:32.000 They were advised to close the door.
00:17:34.000 Bro, he has not moved yet.
00:17:36.000 They were advised what?
00:17:38.000 sir. Yeah. Okay. That's f you their updated locati
00:17:45.000 in the man. Yeah. Yeah. Y Oh, I didn't know that.
00:18:11.000 Bro, bro, can you see that?
00:18:13.000 You see that thing, bro?
00:18:14.000 Bro, bro, can you see that?
00:18:15.000 You see that?
00:18:36.000 You see that You know, I'm gonna beat your neck!
00:18:41.000 Are you serious?
00:18:43.000 this card just to get th Let me dressing down. Ye
00:19:04.000 so you can go back there in front of you bro. Yea
00:19:10.000 your money now, bro, deux that's right now, bro. Y
00:19:19.000 I don't know.
00:19:20.000 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:43.000 I'm just gonna go. I'm not here. I think I'll make it back.
00:19:48.000 I'm so sorry!
00:19:52.000 He's a good guy.
00:19:54.000 He has to get out of the way.
00:19:56.000 Don't touch me!
00:20:04.000 He does?
00:20:06.000 He's a good guy.
00:20:08.000 He has to get out of the way.
00:20:10.000 Don't touch me!
00:20:18.000 He's a good guy.
00:20:20.000 He has to get out of the way.
00:20:22.000 Don't touch me!
00:20:30.000 He does?
00:20:32.000 He has to get out of the way.
00:20:44.000 It would be disgusting.
00:20:45.000 It wouldn't be funny at all.
00:20:46.000 Oh, it would be wonderful.
00:20:47.000 Good morning!
00:20:48.000 We're starting a little early today, by the way.
00:20:50.000 You can use the hashtag, is it Crowder Chauvin Trial?
00:20:53.000 There it is.
00:20:54.000 I keep saying Crowder Chauvin because I'm French-Canadian.
00:20:57.000 Crowder Chauvin Stream.
00:20:58.000 I speak it properly.
00:21:00.000 I'm an affected bitch.
00:21:02.000 So we have Gerald here, we have Quarterback Garrett here, we have Dave Landau.
00:21:05.000 You can follow him on the Twitter at Dave Landau, right?
00:21:08.000 Or Landau Dave.
00:21:09.000 At Landau Dave.
00:21:10.000 Landau Dave.
00:21:10.000 And that's wonderful because we are going to be covering the Derek Chauvin trial, the opening statements here today.
00:21:16.000 Let us know.
00:21:17.000 We may be covering it throughout the week.
00:21:19.000 I don't know how long it will go.
00:21:20.000 This is kind of a little free flow, but you can follow Dave because you can't follow me on Twitter.
00:21:25.000 I've been suspended again for one reason.
00:21:28.000 Here's what's funny about this one.
00:21:29.000 So I was suspended last week, and then I was unsuspended, and I posted one tweet, which resulted in my next suspension, immediately.
00:21:42.000 And the tweet was, So, Twitter has publicly stated to Congress that it fairly enforces its policies and provides detailed information about alleged violations.
00:21:50.000 Yesterday, they suspended me for the third time in a month, refusing to list a reason or a tweet in question.
00:21:55.000 And I think we have the overlay here.
00:21:58.000 They never gave me a reason.
00:21:59.000 It says reason or violation, and it's blank.
00:22:03.000 You would think, like, just put in a middle finger emoji.
00:22:07.000 Just make something up.
00:22:08.000 Just make something up.
00:22:09.000 Racism, blah blah blah.
00:22:11.000 But the point here is, the only tweet that went up from my previous suspension to my new suspension is the one criticizing Twitter for the suspension.
00:22:19.000 So now Twitter will suspend you for simply pointing out that they are suspending people without cause.
00:22:26.000 There's clearly no violation unless it's saying that, look, they've testified saying that they give you a reason.
00:22:31.000 So you know what?
00:22:32.000 Whatever.
00:22:33.000 Well, it started as 24 hours, right?
00:22:35.000 And then it moved to 7 days.
00:22:36.000 Now it's 6 days.
00:22:37.000 So if you try to log in, does it reset the clock every time again, like last time?
00:22:41.000 I have no idea.
00:22:43.000 I really just use Twitter now, I put a joke occasionally, but mainly just for advertisements for shows.
00:22:48.000 Right.
00:22:49.000 Because why bother?
00:22:50.000 Right.
00:22:51.000 It just upsets everybody, no matter what you say.
00:22:53.000 Right, well especially Jack Dorsey.
00:22:55.000 Yes, he's a real prick.
00:22:56.000 He's an absolute prick on his island with his blood-stained volleyball.
00:23:01.000 WELCOME!
00:23:02.000 Oh my gosh.
00:23:03.000 It's the worst beard ever.
00:23:04.000 You shouldn't grow it if that's what it looks like.
00:23:06.000 Yeah, you should cut it off.
00:23:08.000 We don't have a drinking game today.
00:23:09.000 No.
00:23:09.000 We have a fentanyl game.
00:23:11.000 Oh boy.
00:23:11.000 Oh my.
00:23:12.000 Oh my word.
00:23:13.000 Okay, we're going to give you a little bit of context.
00:23:15.000 Did you see what I was doing in the bathroom?
00:23:17.000 Is that what this is about?
00:23:19.000 We do have security cameras in the bathroom.
00:23:20.000 It's a private business.
00:23:22.000 If you don't like it, take a walk.
00:23:24.000 Sobriety over.
00:23:27.000 So, we want to watch this along with you, and of course, if you want to follow me, you can join me at MugClubLadderwithCrowder.com slash MugClub.
00:23:34.000 Opinions here before we go to the trial.
00:23:36.000 Let me give you a little bit of setup, and then we'll go to... That's why we just showed you the full 20-minute arrest.
00:23:41.000 We have some technical issues, I guess.
00:23:42.000 Let me know, Tokunawa, once we're good.
00:23:44.000 Give me a thumbs up so that I don't feel like I'm walking a tightrope here.
00:23:48.000 So Chauvin... Now, Chauvin... Sorry, if I say Chauvin, it's just because... Chauvin is psycho!
00:23:52.000 Tabarnak, it's Chauvin.
00:23:54.000 It's like...
00:23:55.000 Hey!
00:23:56.000 I'm gonna show you how to make a fentanyl!
00:24:00.000 Oh, geez.
00:24:01.000 I'm not sure what you said, but it was horrible.
00:24:03.000 I actually have a lot of fans in French Canada.
00:24:05.000 Do you really?
00:24:05.000 Yeah, there are apparently some conservatives out there.
00:24:07.000 Do you speak au francais?
00:24:09.000 I do, that was my first language.
00:24:11.000 What do you think just happened, Dave?
00:24:13.000 I don't know what just happened.
00:24:14.000 I'm not buying gibberish to me.
00:24:16.000 me a wish about ha ha I only have a knack I only speak straight Jared Oh come on
00:24:23.000 yeah I know I know I know his name.
00:24:27.000 I don't know!
00:24:28.000 I'd like to just throw it out there to see if people correct me.
00:24:32.000 So he has three charges against him, Chauvin.
00:24:34.000 It's second-degree manslaughter, second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder.
00:24:37.000 Judge Cahill previously dropped the third-degree murder charge, saying that it didn't apply.
00:24:43.000 Now we have as defined by Minnesota law, to give you context, second-degree manslaughter.
00:24:48.000 would require, this says, by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable
00:24:53.000 risk and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another. So these
00:25:00.000 charges don't seem to apply here. Yeah. And we have some, let me see, what do we have? Remember,
00:25:05.000 keep in mind too, as far as how biased this is, earlier in the trial they did, and let me be
00:25:10.000 clear, I think we all have sort of opinions. Yeah. That's why we showed the 20 minute arrest,
00:25:14.000 where you see the full footage.
00:25:17.000 What I do not think this is an example of is of an officer going out and lynching a black guy.
00:25:21.000 I think this is an officer, several officers, who were incredibly patient, a man who was incredibly non-compliant, who was very high, who was distraught, who had COVID, and after 20 minutes of refusing to comply, I think then you had an officer who was frustrated, used the proper police protocol to put his knee on his neck, which I think is horrible protocol, and then didn't follow, rolling him over to his side because he didn't want to take chances because he couldn't control him.
00:25:48.000 That being said, Obviously George Floyd, not a saint, this is a man who, picture this, it matters because the officer knew this, the officer knew George Floyd, and we were told the officer, Chauvin, knew George Floyd, they worked at the same nightclub, therefore it must be racism.
00:26:02.000 Or maybe he knew that George Floyd jammed a pistol into a lady's stomach in front of her toddler during an armed violent home invasion, okay?
00:26:11.000 And so you don't take those chances with someone who is that big, has a history of that much violence, and is high out of his mind.
00:26:19.000 That being said, I don't think Chauvin is a saint either.
00:26:25.000 I think there were mistakes all around.
00:26:27.000 It's a tragedy, but certainly not an example of a modern day lynching and certainly not indicative of the non-existent statistics of unarmed black men being shot.
00:26:38.000 That was the last epidemic before the pandemic.
00:26:41.000 We have an epidemic of unarmed black men being shot.
00:26:43.000 Well, that's not true.
00:26:44.000 More unarmed white men are shot and far more police officers are shot by black men.
00:26:48.000 Yeah, and we wouldn't really be bringing up a lot of their history unless people were saying, you know, this cop is horrible and a racist, and we're like, okay, well, let's look at the facts and see if that's true.
00:26:55.000 Well, it doesn't look like that's true, and it doesn't look like this was motivated by that.
00:26:59.000 Okay, now George Floyd is a saint.
00:27:00.000 Well, it doesn't look like that's true, and it also looks like the police officers knew that wasn't true when they stopped him.
00:27:05.000 Like, all of these things matter because they've been put out there, right?
00:27:09.000 The murals of George Floyd, like he's the second coming.
00:27:11.000 Well, actually, not too long ago, they actually compared him at the jury selection to Jesus Christ.
00:27:16.000 Here you go.
00:27:17.000 Your Honor, we would agree that specifically as worded, the court could grant this with respect to the, shall we say, parties identified specifically in that motion.
00:27:31.000 I have to ask, how did this even become a motion?
00:27:34.000 How did this become a possible answer at trial?
00:27:38.000 I think, Your Honor, one of our witnesses Well, that seems pretty self-explanatory.
00:27:46.000 Hey, really quickly, we're having a problem here with our trial.
00:27:49.000 We're going to pause the show for two or three minutes and be right back so we don't miss the trial.
00:27:55.000 We have some more clips for you and Fentanyl Games right back.
00:27:59.000 under rule 403.
00:28:00.000 Yep.
00:28:01.000 Well, that seems pretty self-explanatory.
00:28:02.000 It does.
00:28:03.000 Hey, really quickly, we're having a problem here with our trial.
00:28:04.000 We're going to pause the show for two or three minutes and be right back so we don't miss
00:28:08.000 the trial.
00:28:09.000 Okay.
00:28:10.000 We have some more clips for you and Fentanyl Games right back.
00:28:11.000 Don't go anywhere.
00:28:12.000 We're going to be right back.
00:28:40.000 One dog, one dog, all he has, is you.
00:28:48.000 One dog, one dog, all the time.
00:28:54.000 Two dog, three dog, all he has, is you.
00:29:00.000 All he has.
00:29:02.000 You You
00:31:36.000 You you
00:31:40.000 you Protests continue across the country this evening, and we want you to know, of course, that though there are some individual protesters who are agitated, it is not the norm.
00:31:51.000 These protests are largely peaceful.
00:31:54.000 Many people look back at the demonstrations at Selma and wonder, what would I have done?
00:31:58.000 Would I have marched across that bridge?
00:32:01.000 Or would I be standing on the other side?
00:32:03.000 Well, I have an answer for you.
00:32:05.000 And my answer is a question.
00:32:08.000 What are you doing now?
00:32:10.000 Now, Tanya, how would you describe the attitude on the ground there?
00:32:14.000 We go now live to our woman in the field, Tanya Franks.
00:32:17.000 Tanya?
00:32:17.000 Well, Chris, first I want to say that was inspiring.
00:32:20.000 Not many today have the courage to say what you just did.
00:32:23.000 Your wife is a lucky woman.
00:32:24.000 Well, that's very kind of you to say, Tanya.
00:32:26.000 And might I say you look positively dishy this evening.
00:32:30.000 Well, as far as the attitude on the ground, you know, folks were entirely peaceful, but far from happy.
00:32:36.000 Just imagine if every day when you left home, you didn't know whether you'd be coming back.
00:32:40.000 Black power!
00:32:41.000 You might be a little upset, too.
00:32:43.000 Well, Tonya, in my line of work, that's always a possibility, but I know that many in the audience might not understand what that's like.
00:32:49.000 No.
00:32:52.000 Tonya, hold... Was that a man on... Was that a man on fire?
00:32:55.000 Hard to tell with the flames, Chris.
00:32:56.000 Might have been a really muscular lady.
00:32:58.000 So, Tanya, what are the people on the ground saying there?
00:33:02.000 A fitting tribute to the memory of George Floyd, Chris.
00:33:06.000 Charged evening, to be certain.
00:33:07.000 Take what you need, my f*****s!
00:33:09.000 A fitting tribute to the memory of George Floyd, Chris.
00:33:12.000 Yo, who dat?
00:33:14.000 Yo, that's a motherf***** with a grill.
00:33:15.000 Charged evening, to be certain.
00:33:17.000 Now, some people are asking, why is this happening now?
00:33:20.000 Haven't things gotten better?
00:33:22.000 Things gotten better?
00:33:24.000 But there are still persistent and pervasive inequities in this country, and these protests are a reaction to that.
00:33:31.000 And aside from a string of isolated incidents, very small, things have been pretty peaceful.
00:33:37.000 Very tame.
00:33:38.000 Any final thoughts, Tanya?
00:33:42.000 Oh, uh, hello, sir.
00:33:44.000 Uh, what's your name?
00:33:49.000 I'm sorry, that was unfair.
00:33:50.000 Allow me to reframe the question.
00:33:53.000 Good, sir.
00:33:54.000 Where, might I ask, is time?
00:33:56.000 Oh, she dead?
00:33:57.000 Yo!
00:34:01.000 Yo, I got an Apple Watch, dog!
00:34:04.000 Yeah!
00:34:06.000 The language of the unheard.
00:34:08.000 We'll be right back.
00:34:10.000 Shit!
00:34:11.000 Shit!
00:34:37.000 There we go!
00:34:56.000 That's the sound of getting it right this time.
00:34:58.000 There's no sip.
00:34:59.000 No.
00:35:00.000 No.
00:35:00.000 You do it once.
00:35:01.000 The sip only happens once.
00:35:02.000 Then it's gone.
00:35:03.000 Sorry for the technical difficulties.
00:35:04.000 We're all set.
00:35:04.000 We have Gerald, Dave Landau.
00:35:06.000 Landau, Dave.
00:35:07.000 Porter Black, Garrett.
00:35:09.000 So we are now, we're waiting on Court TV.
00:35:11.000 Yeah.
00:35:12.000 Because they're the least likely to copyright strike us.
00:35:15.000 Thank you for being back with us.
00:35:16.000 The promo, well not the promo code, the hashtag is Crowder Chauvin Stream.
00:35:20.000 Chauvin.
00:35:22.000 If I say Chauvin, shut up.
00:35:24.000 Everybody watching, just shut up.
00:35:27.000 I've had this so many times.
00:35:28.000 I think you were with me when I was ordering one time.
00:35:30.000 Le Fin du Monde.
00:35:32.000 And I know Fin du Monde is the right way.
00:35:34.000 It's a beer.
00:35:35.000 And I'm trying to say it the right, wrong way.
00:35:37.000 I go, Fin du Monde?
00:35:38.000 She goes, I don't know.
00:35:40.000 What is that?
00:35:41.000 The Fin de Monde?
00:35:42.000 I'm like, sure.
00:35:43.000 We don't have it.
00:35:45.000 And I go, OK, then I'll take that.
00:35:46.000 The word is modit.
00:35:46.000 I'm like, the modit?
00:35:48.000 The modite?
00:35:49.000 I'm like, you're getting no tip.
00:35:51.000 Let's hear right now.
00:35:52.000 Judge, here's motions before opening statements.
00:35:54.000 Let's go to this.
00:35:55.000 And then I have some clips and some pretext for you.
00:36:00.000 Analysis of that situation.
00:36:02.000 Is that the public?
00:36:03.000 Is that the public defendant from My Cousin Vinny?
00:36:05.000 any. Sorry. Yes. Miss you. Trying. Wanted to resist arrest that he was trying to. Fight
00:36:18.000 Is this from us, or is their audio that bad?
00:36:23.000 I think their audio is that bad, yeah.
00:36:24.000 I'm just glad nobody's gonna get COVID in that room.
00:36:25.000 Yes, true.
00:36:26.000 Came with his turtle shell mask.
00:36:27.000 What, does it have bolts on the side?
00:36:28.000 I'm just glad nobody's gonna get COVID in that room.
00:36:32.000 Yes, true.
00:36:33.000 Came with his turtle shell.
00:36:34.000 What does it have, bolts on the side?
00:36:35.000 It looks like it's drilled into his face.
00:36:36.000 It looks like it's drilled into his face.
00:36:37.000 It's very much a Bane type of thing.
00:36:42.000 You do not need to kneel on his neck!
00:36:44.000 I spent time in prison.
00:36:46.000 Then I wear this mask after a bunch of men grabbed me.
00:36:49.000 to kneel on his neck. I spent time in prison. Then I wear this mask after a bunch of men
00:36:57.000 grabbed me. Think about it.
00:37:08.000 Vis-a-vis that... Alright, so... Are they all on fentanyl?
00:37:11.000 Yeah, I don't know if they're all on fentanyl right now.
00:37:14.000 We already had the clip of them referring to George Floyd as Jesus Christ, which will not be admissible, thank God.
00:37:19.000 No.
00:37:20.000 So this has resulted in Bill HR 1280, which is of course the George Floyd policing bill.
00:37:26.000 Hey, it's always nice when you commit multiple violent felonies and jam a pistol into a lady's gut with her toddler watching, and you get a policing bill named after you.
00:37:34.000 That's exciting.
00:37:36.000 And murals.
00:37:36.000 Yeah, and murals.
00:37:38.000 It's like Che Guevara.
00:37:39.000 He gets murals.
00:37:40.000 Well, I really do think the end there was not good.
00:37:45.000 I'm going to go ahead and say it.
00:37:46.000 I think I think it was bad.
00:37:48.000 I think it was bad, too.
00:37:49.000 Listen, I think this thing is a tragedy all around.
00:37:51.000 Less than ideal.
00:37:52.000 The problem is they're using this to try and create a new bill based on the idea that this was simply a racist cop going out and attacking a black man.
00:38:01.000 And that's not true.
00:38:02.000 So the bill withholds funds from departments that do not ban chokeholds.
00:38:05.000 There was no chokehold applied, just to be clear.
00:38:07.000 Labels chokeholds civil rights violations.
00:38:08.000 So I guess you'd rather be beaten by a nightstick.
00:38:10.000 Bans racial profiling.
00:38:13.000 Okay, I don't know what that means.
00:38:14.000 How do you ban racial profiling if someone commits a robbery and they're white, blonde hair, right, they look like you?
00:38:20.000 Yeah.
00:38:21.000 Can you imagine?
00:38:21.000 If they look like me?
00:38:22.000 If they look like George Floyd?
00:38:24.000 Well, they just describe you.
00:38:25.000 Right.
00:38:26.000 Well, no, no, no, you can't.
00:38:27.000 That's what we're saying.
00:38:27.000 Like, now it's like, all right, well, what did he look like?
00:38:29.000 Well, he was, um...
00:38:31.000 Yeah. He was ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-baran-ba-ba.
00:38:35.000 Are you singing Beach Boys? I am, because I'm uncomfortable, and there's an autonomous zone behind me.
00:38:40.000 The news has been doing that forever, though, where they just try to dance around here looking for it. Like, he's 6'5",
00:38:46.000 probably likes grape drink, dark hair.
00:38:49.000 Unless he's white.
00:38:50.000 The shooter, who was white, and like, actually, he was Arab.
00:38:54.000 The shooter, who was of unidentified race, well, okay, let's just review.
00:38:57.000 Well, he's white until he's not.
00:38:59.000 There was a lot of times in this country where that was the opposite.
00:39:04.000 Ends qualified immunity, which means that they can be civilly liable police officers.
00:39:08.000 A lot of people don't understand that.
00:39:09.000 That means that any time a cop, even if it's fully justified, if someone is shooting a police member currently and the man returns fire and the person dies, the family can sue him.
00:39:20.000 Which will happen every single time.
00:39:24.000 National police misconduct registry available to the public.
00:39:27.000 Okay, I understand the idea of having a national registry available to the public.
00:39:31.000 Seems like a problem, considering that you get banned from Twitter.
00:39:35.000 It's considered doxxing if you just say, hey, Ilhan Omar's at the office today signing a crappy bill.
00:39:39.000 I think there's a pretty important registry that's already out there, too.
00:39:48.000 And just to keep in mind too, they won't be talking about this, the toxicology report.
00:39:53.000 Fentanyl, methamphetamine, marijuana, and of course he had COVID.
00:39:58.000 So in any other scenario this would be listed as a COVID death, not saying that's what happened.
00:40:01.000 Just like I don't think the guy who tried to blow his head off with a shotgun in Michigan was a COVID death, but there we are.
00:40:06.000 He was listed as one.
00:40:07.000 So this is a remarkable inconsistency.
00:40:10.000 And the truth is, this is going to be used to set a narrative, which is important, that, well, we need to fix the problem right now.
00:40:17.000 This is the bill.
00:40:17.000 We need to fix the problem of unarmed black men being shot en masse from police officers.
00:40:22.000 That's not happening.
00:40:23.000 No, and this isn't even a case of police brutality, necessarily.
00:40:27.000 This is a case of poor training or poor execution of training, right?
00:40:30.000 Right.
00:40:31.000 At a certain point, you have to roll this guy over, and we'll get to all of those things, but people are using this, like you said, to justify a whole slew of changes, like defunding police officers around the country, which doesn't really work out so well as well.
00:40:42.000 So a 2,000% increase in homicide in Seattle and Portland and certain areas of the country.
00:40:48.000 You know, if you're getting away now with only a multi-hundred percent increase in violent crime and homicide in major cities, you're actually doing really well.
00:40:54.000 You're like the Rudy Giuliani.
00:40:55.000 You are doing really well.
00:40:56.000 You are tough on crime.
00:40:58.000 I think you're including Chas numbers.
00:41:00.000 That's a totally different place.
00:41:02.000 It's technically a republic.
00:41:04.000 It's its own country.
00:41:04.000 Sure they can't sustain themselves with an open Starbucks, but still.
00:41:10.000 They're great people, okay?
00:41:11.000 They are very nice.
00:41:12.000 Look, like other rural countries do, they waited for us to give them bottled water and food.
00:41:16.000 Right.
00:41:16.000 Fantastic.
00:41:17.000 Which, by the way, while we're talking about this, we'll talk about this tomorrow or whenever we're not doing the trial show, this idea that in Georgia they're banning people from giving water Oh, come on.
00:41:25.000 It's not true.
00:41:26.000 It's not true at all.
00:41:27.000 You can't... Anyway, it's not true.
00:41:28.000 It's bullshit.
00:41:29.000 If it sounds like bullshit, smells like bullshit, probably bullshit, it's bullshit.
00:41:32.000 We'll talk about it.
00:41:33.000 Just don't believe it for a second, despite what Chris Wallace says.
00:41:35.000 Oh my gosh.
00:41:36.000 Bro, why can't you give water to people in roading lines?
00:41:41.000 Bro.
00:41:41.000 You're an idiot, and I hate you, Chris Wallace.
00:41:43.000 So let's get to the epidemic really quickly before we move on.
00:41:46.000 This is the narrative they want to set, and if this guy does not fry, there will be riots in the street.
00:41:50.000 Our Korean in-chief here actually made a good point.
00:41:54.000 He said, this is kind of like my OJ, only in reverse.
00:41:57.000 And it mirrors, when you think about it, OJ after Rodney King, the riots, right?
00:42:02.000 This is a guy who obviously was allegedly guilty.
00:42:05.000 Well, guilty in a civil court.
00:42:07.000 And because of the racial tension, because of the issue, because they didn't want to deal with these ramifications, with these riots, they let the guy go.
00:42:14.000 In this case, it's post-riots.
00:42:15.000 We're talking about $2 billion in damages, over 900 officer casualties, tens of people who were killed in the Black Lives—these are the most violent, expensive riots that have ever taken place in American history.
00:42:26.000 And people don't want more of this to happen, and so they're going to have to convict this guy, whether in any other scenario he would be convicted or not.
00:42:33.000 Now this is being used to set a narrative, and I just want to set the stage here really, really quickly, that police are shooting unarmed black men in rec.
00:42:40.000 It is not true.
00:42:41.000 So 2019 is the last time we have these full numbers.
00:42:45.000 9 unarmed black men were shot by police.
00:42:48.000 I know you're saying, yeah, but they make up a higher percentage of the population.
00:42:48.000 19 unarmed white men.
00:42:51.000 But, actually, 53% of known homicide offenders in the United States are black.
00:42:56.000 60% of robberies are black.
00:42:58.000 So when you consider that violent crime is committed disproportionately, and I hate This has to come out of my mouth.
00:43:03.000 I hate that I have to say black, white, but the fact is right now they're going to be talking about white, black.
00:43:08.000 I was listening to NPR this morning.
00:43:11.000 Derek Chauvin, who is white, put his knee on the neck of unarmed George Floyd, who is black.
00:43:19.000 That was in there!
00:43:20.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:43:21.000 So you have to respond to it.
00:43:24.000 Let me touch on the statistics thing you said.
00:43:25.000 You're absolutely right.
00:43:26.000 It doesn't matter what the percentage of the population is.
00:43:29.000 When you use statistics, you have to use them in a way that is precise and actionable.
00:43:32.000 You don't want the population number, you want the cop interaction number.
00:43:35.000 How many people of all the different races are the police interacting with and what are the outcomes?
00:43:40.000 That shows a much different picture.
00:43:42.000 Well that's also important, the interactions.
00:43:44.000 Do you know, you probably don't know this, do you know how much more likely a police officer is to be shot or killed by a black male than he is to shoot an unarmed black male?
00:43:56.000 If you would take a guess, how much more likely is it for a police officer to be killed by a black man than to shoot an unarmed black male?
00:44:02.000 Eighteen and a half times.
00:44:03.000 Wow.
00:44:04.000 A police officer is eighteen and a half times.
00:44:06.000 I wouldn't know how to even gauge the percentage.
00:44:08.000 Well, I guess what I'm wondering, though, is what is conviction versus arrest rate?
00:44:13.000 Because there could be an argument there inside the system once.
00:44:17.000 Like, yeah, sure, more black people may be convicted, but how many arrests were there compared to the two races?
00:44:22.000 Well, substantially more.
00:44:24.000 Right.
00:44:25.000 Substantially more.
00:44:25.000 The interactions, it's off the charts.
00:44:27.000 In fact, the Black Lives Matter group before this had been making the argument for decades that police were just stopping black people randomly.
00:44:33.000 So it takes the numbers into astronomical figures.
00:44:35.000 There's no way.
00:44:36.000 I'm just playing daredevil.
00:44:37.000 No, I appreciate it.
00:44:39.000 So I have this number exactly.
00:44:40.000 53% of known homicide offenders in this country are black.
00:44:43.000 60% of robberies, but they make up only 25% of those shot by police.
00:44:48.000 Okay.
00:44:49.000 So half in relation to the crimes committed, and police officers are 18 and a half times more likely to be killed by a black man than shooting an unarmed black man.
00:44:59.000 And by the way, of these nine unarmed black men who were shot in 2019, One of them, one of the unarmed black men tried to run over the officer with his car.
00:45:09.000 I mean, think about that for a second.
00:45:13.000 These things matter.
00:45:14.000 A car is not armed, but he's trying to run over a police officer.
00:45:17.000 The point is, if you try and overcorrect and now make sure that police officers cannot do their job and you defund them because of systemic racism, which statistically does not exist in the police force, Then we have a problem.
00:45:29.000 And that's why the majority of black Americans don't want less of a police presence.
00:45:33.000 They want at least the same amount as they have now, or more.
00:45:36.000 Do we need police reform?
00:45:37.000 Sure.
00:45:38.000 We need to make sure that unions aren't as strong in the police as they are.
00:45:41.000 This wall of silence.
00:45:43.000 We need to make sure that police have their authority constrained to constitutional parameters.
00:45:47.000 I have a problem with police.
00:45:49.000 Who do you think they would have to send out to round up people with the executive orders with firearms?
00:45:53.000 Probably police officers.
00:45:54.000 When I see police officers arresting ladies at soccer games because they're not wearing their double mask, that's a problem.
00:46:00.000 That being said, we need to address the real issue and not the race-baiting that is taking place in the mainstream media, and that's what's going on today.
00:46:08.000 And you can't do that until people start to actually look at what the problem is.
00:46:11.000 And I think, Dave, that's what we're trying to do is to set it up and say, look, there is a problem.
00:46:15.000 We need to solve it.
00:46:16.000 But what is the problem?
00:46:18.000 It's not what they're saying it is that you're just going to get shot randomly by police officers because you're black.
00:46:23.000 So what really is going on?
00:46:24.000 Well, that is, yeah, that is obviously a message that people want to put out, and there's no denying that, but at the same time, how do you solve something that's an individual basis when you're painting it as a broad stroke?
00:46:34.000 It doesn't really work.
00:46:35.000 It's all an individual thing.
00:46:37.000 This particular situation, the guy who kneeled on his neck, I think, personally, was an asshole and was responsible for his death.
00:46:44.000 He took it too far at the end when he didn't need to.
00:46:47.000 That's not speaking for the police.
00:46:49.000 That's not talking about cops across this country who are now being accused of it or them getting defunded because of a singular situation.
00:46:56.000 That's the problem is we're taking single things done by individuals and putting color stamps on them and that's dangerous.
00:47:03.000 And I would take it even a step further and say I would give this guy more leeway, Officer Chauvin, than you are for a couple of reasons.
00:47:12.000 This is what they were trained to do, to put the knee on the neck.
00:47:14.000 So you're talking about the knee on the neck.
00:47:15.000 They're trained by the police department to put the knee on the neck.
00:47:17.000 It's very stupid.
00:47:18.000 It's also not an asphyxiation.
00:47:19.000 But we need to acknowledge the fact That they train police officers in this department to do what he did.
00:47:25.000 They train them to turn someone over afterward, which he did not do.
00:47:29.000 But that wasn't the media outcry.
00:47:31.000 The media was, why would you put your knee in his neck?
00:47:33.000 Because he was taught to.
00:47:34.000 So your problem here is with the police training department.
00:47:37.000 And I've been saying this for a long time.
00:47:38.000 We had Jaco on.
00:47:39.000 Police, before they go out, they should have six months of concentrated combat training, grappling training, Brazilian submission training, so that they don't have to go to their tool belt, whether it's a taser, whether it's a firearm, or if you're a silly beat cop in the Untouchables, or all of the UK, a billy club.
00:47:39.000 Oh yeah.
00:47:55.000 Spin it around.
00:47:55.000 I think that they shouldn't have to, so they need better training, but Here is actually, we have a clip of them showing that this was a training for the police officers.
00:47:55.000 Right?
00:48:03.000 He didn't just do this rogue.
00:48:05.000 The officers were holding Floyd in what attached MPD training materials call maximal restraint technique.
00:48:11.000 The training materials include a photograph of an officer with his knee on the suspect's neck.
00:48:16.000 This comes despite MPD chief Madera Arradondo repeatedly saying after the death of George Floyd, That's the problem with the lie.
00:48:23.000 Right.
00:48:23.000 That's a lie.
00:48:23.000 Now the issue there is it doesn't say how long until you roll someone over to the recovery position.
00:48:26.000 a lie.
00:48:26.000 Right.
00:48:26.000 Either.
00:48:27.000 The suspect should be turned to his side in what's called a recovery position, which the
00:48:31.000 body camera transcript shows Lane asked a second time.
00:48:34.000 This time Chauvin didn't answer.
00:48:35.000 Right.
00:48:36.000 Now the issue there is it doesn't say how long until you roll someone over to the recovery
00:48:40.000 position.
00:48:41.000 Right.
00:48:42.000 Either.
00:48:43.000 Usually, the precedent that's been set here is once someone stops struggling, once someone
00:48:47.000 is no longer a threat.
00:48:48.000 Yeah.
00:48:49.000 Now that being said, as far as, I disagree with you, and that's okay.
00:48:50.000 I disagree with you on Chauvin being an asshole because I think all the way up until this
00:48:53.000 point he was incredibly lenient.
00:48:56.000 That's why we showed it before this stream, the 20 minute arrest.
00:49:00.000 There have been officers who have been shot in far Less unruly scenarios.
00:49:05.000 I think we have a shorter montage here of them trying to get him into the car.
00:49:09.000 Keep in mind, George Floyd says his mom just died.
00:49:11.000 She died two years ago.
00:49:12.000 He's not putting his hands up when they ask.
00:49:14.000 He's asking them to put the air on if they have heated seats and a sunroof.
00:49:17.000 And they're saying, we're going to stay there with you.
00:49:18.000 We're going to open the windows.
00:49:19.000 Saying, I can't breathe.
00:49:20.000 Calm down.
00:49:21.000 Saying, I can't breathe.
00:49:22.000 The second they cuff him, OK, just to be clear, again, we were told that he said, I can't breathe once he was on the ground and the cop ignored him.
00:49:29.000 No, that's the very first thing he went to to try and avoid being cuffed.
00:49:31.000 Here's a montage.
00:49:33.000 We're trying to get out of the street here so you don't get hit by a car.
00:49:37.000 Could you please crack it for me, please?
00:49:37.000 We got him?
00:49:39.000 Yes, I'll crack it.
00:49:41.000 I will.
00:49:41.000 I will.
00:49:41.000 Please stay with me, man.
00:49:42.000 Thank you.
00:49:42.000 I'll roll the windows down and stick my legs in, alright?
00:49:45.000 I'll put the air on.
00:49:46.000 Step out and face away.
00:49:47.000 Please don't shoot me.
00:49:48.000 Please, man.
00:49:49.000 I'm not going to shoot you.
00:49:50.000 Step out and face away.
00:49:51.000 I'm going to get out of here, man.
00:49:52.000 Please don't shoot me, man.
00:49:53.000 I'm not shooting you, man.
00:49:55.000 So here's the thing.
00:49:56.000 Someone passed a fake bill in there.
00:49:59.000 We come over here, he starts grabbing for the keys and all that stuff.
00:50:01.000 Is that a leprechaun in a hood?
00:50:03.000 He starts getting weird, not showing us his hands, I don't know what's going on, so you're coming out of the car.
00:50:06.000 So just hang tight right here.
00:50:08.000 So this is important because right away he's saying, I'm not going, they talk about, why don't they de-escalate?
00:50:13.000 I'm not going to shoot you, please put your hands above your head.
00:50:15.000 Hey, I'm going to stay with you, I'll stay with you, all the sources by the way will be available at loudearthcracker.com including the 20 minute tape.
00:50:20.000 I'm going to stay with you, I'll open the windows, don't shoot me, I'm not going to shoot you.
00:50:24.000 Okay.
00:50:25.000 I'm not going to shoot you.
00:50:26.000 Please comply.
00:50:27.000 And then he has two perfectly reasonable interactions with the other two people involved.
00:50:31.000 Yeah.
00:50:32.000 So, I think that, yes, at this point, and then it gets increasingly violent.
00:50:36.000 The guy increasingly resists arrest, and he asks to be put on the ground.
00:50:42.000 Yeah.
00:50:43.000 And then he didn't roll him over.
00:50:45.000 That's the issue there, which, again, now we're at the point with There isn't malicious intent on the outset.
00:50:50.000 This wasn't just random racial profiling.
00:50:53.000 He was non-compliant.
00:50:54.000 And then, with a rulebook that they're used in their training to kneel on the neck and turn them over, he didn't do the last part.
00:51:01.000 Okay, what kind of a charge should that be?
00:51:06.000 Isn't the last thing called the Resurrect, though?
00:51:09.000 I mean, isn't that the... Recovery.
00:51:11.000 Recovery, sorry.
00:51:12.000 Jesus Christ.
00:51:12.000 Resurrect.
00:51:13.000 that's that's that's just right he's a sister yes it is almost easter boy but it
00:51:13.000 It's almost Easter, boys.
00:51:21.000 is true that's the recovery position It feels like that's the most important of all the positions to put somebody in to keep them alive.
00:51:28.000 Well, I don't think, so it's not called the recovery position to keep people alive.
00:51:31.000 It's called the recovery position because now you've subdued the perpetrator or whatever it is.
00:51:35.000 You've got them on their side.
00:51:37.000 Now you can get them up and into the car, right?
00:51:38.000 You're getting them into, it's not saying, oh, you're about to kill them, but you roll them over so that you don't kill them.
00:51:43.000 I think, I think what you're trying to say is the cashier should have just taken the 20.
00:51:49.000 No, I just think all of the context to this matters and I think so many people form their opinions, not you Dave, but a number of people form their opinions just on the last five minutes of the video that we saw.
00:52:00.000 Kneeling on the neck and not understanding, like never having dealt with somebody who's been on drugs.
00:52:04.000 I've heard story after story after story of somebody on PCP, Lane even asks, he's like, hey do you guys think he's on PCP or something?
00:52:11.000 Those guys have strength that you have no idea where it comes from.
00:52:14.000 Oh yeah.
00:52:15.000 Tons of bottled blood.
00:52:16.000 Well I think we have a hunch Well, it's a PCP.
00:52:20.000 Well, basically, it makes you get naked, and it gives you the strength of ten men.
00:52:24.000 I had a friend who was a police officer, one of my jujitsu coaches, and there was a guy in PCP, and what he did was he stripped down naked, he crapped in his hand, covered himself in it, said, who wants to catch me?
00:52:33.000 And he was a new police officer, so they said, alright, you're up.
00:52:35.000 That's you, buddy.
00:52:38.000 Which actually is pretty clever.
00:52:40.000 Well, they sprayed him with poopery first.
00:52:41.000 Who wants to get me?
00:52:42.000 Is anyone going to get me?
00:52:45.000 All of this, the context matters.
00:52:47.000 The context matters, but my question, so now that we've watched all of this, right, and we understand the context, we understand that there was training, we understand that this officer knew this man, we understand that this officer knew this man had a violent history, we understand that he was very accommodating for 20 minutes, did it warrant the most violent, unruly, mostly peaceful riots that we've ever seen in our lives?
00:53:04.000 Keep in mind, all of these riots over the course of the summer, and by the way, remember, the COVID ticker disappeared for two months, for a little bit, it was all predicated On George Floyd and Derek Chauvin, here's a little reminder
00:53:16.000 in case you've forgotten.
00:53:17.000 Watch out! Watch out! I've got a plane! I've got a plane!
00:53:22.000 Grab the plane! Grab the plane!
00:53:25.000 Oh, they're in a boat now!
00:53:27.000 Peaceful little, uh...
00:53:35.000 It's mostly peaceful.
00:53:37.000 Peaceful little car lot fire.
00:53:42.000 Oh, nice.
00:53:43.000 That's a cool thing to yell.
00:53:44.000 Well, at least that's not a government building.
00:53:47.000 Update on the trial right now.
00:53:49.000 The judge, I guess, he had walked away and he said that they would get things started up again at 10.30 Eastern.
00:53:53.000 10.30 Eastern?
00:53:55.000 So that means in five minutes?
00:53:56.000 Okay.
00:53:56.000 Yeah.
00:53:57.000 All right.
00:53:57.000 So that's not bad.
00:53:58.000 Good.
00:53:58.000 Thank you.
00:53:59.000 So I have a little bit of time.
00:54:00.000 112 Minneapolis officers filed disability claims due to PTSD.
00:54:03.000 Just in Minneapolis.
00:54:05.000 It doesn't matter because it wasn't at the Capitol.
00:54:10.000 Uh, Minneapolis then had to spend, remember they wanted to defund the police?
00:54:12.000 Right.
00:54:13.000 Then they had to spend 6.4 million dollars to recruit new police officers.
00:54:15.000 Ow!
00:54:16.000 I don't know why anyone would become a cop today.
00:54:18.000 No!
00:54:18.000 No.
00:54:19.000 Oh, I can't imagine why.
00:54:20.000 I can't imagine.
00:54:20.000 No.
00:54:21.000 Who signs up for it in Minneapolis?
00:54:22.000 Like, you would have to pay them, like, you know, 500 grand a year and be like, alright, here you go, here's your new benefits.
00:54:27.000 Yeah.
00:54:28.000 Minneapolis.
00:54:29.000 Kenosha.
00:54:30.000 Yeah.
00:54:30.000 How are you going to have any police officers?
00:54:32.000 No.
00:54:33.000 Especially if you get rid of qualified immunity because now you can be sued for anything.
00:54:33.000 Oh, no.
00:54:37.000 Yeah.
00:54:37.000 You want to know what it's like?
00:54:38.000 It's like being a doctor and operating on somebody and they die and there's nothing you did wrong but you're getting sued anyway.
00:54:43.000 It's just, we're at the point where everything is so politicized.
00:54:45.000 Keep in mind that this was from the Obama administration, this is overlay J if you're looking for it.
00:54:49.000 This is a 2011 report that black males aged 14 to 24 commit homicide at 37 times the rate of the normal population.
00:54:58.000 And here's the thing, is it because of melanin?
00:55:00.000 No, despite what Elmo says.
00:55:02.000 Well, Elmo's pretty sure.
00:55:03.000 Is melanin why you burnt down the Walgreens?
00:55:08.000 That's racist Elmo.
00:55:08.000 No.
00:55:10.000 On on.
00:55:12.000 Na na na Elmo's world.
00:55:14.000 They look like Frank Yankers puppets.
00:55:16.000 like Frank Yankers puppets.
00:55:18.000 Yes, they do.
00:55:18.000 Which is more fun.
00:55:21.000 It's not because they're black.
00:55:23.000 Why?
00:55:23.000 It's because... I've got to tell you this, too.
00:55:25.000 This ties into the whole voting law thing in Georgia.
00:55:29.000 I can't think of anything more racist.
00:55:31.000 I really can't.
00:55:31.000 I was just sort of sitting there with my wife.
00:55:33.000 Hold on a second.
00:55:34.000 They're saying this is voter suppression, voter suppression, voter suppression with voting.
00:55:37.000 This is how the left views black Americans.
00:55:39.000 And it really is sad.
00:55:41.000 They're saying, hey, black Americans can't afford to get ID.
00:55:45.000 Okay, well, you know what?
00:55:46.000 It's free.
00:55:47.000 Uh, well, they can't get to the DMV.
00:55:49.000 Uh, well, uh, okay, they can sign up for it online.
00:55:52.000 Black people don't know how to use the internet.
00:55:54.000 How racist is that shit, when you think about it?
00:55:56.000 Well, that was Biden that said that.
00:55:57.000 That was Biden that said that.
00:55:58.000 So that's the issue here.
00:56:00.000 It's the low expectations.
00:56:02.000 Okay, the judge here is talking with his turtle shell mask.
00:56:04.000 Get his hand up!
00:56:05.000 I used to...
00:56:06.000 ...and follow the instructions.
00:56:07.000 Oh, he's wearing them in, okay.
00:56:08.000 He's wearing them in.
00:56:09.000 Okay, yeah.
00:56:10.000 So let me know when it's something that we need to do.
00:56:11.000 He's doing the vanilla ice wrap from Secret of the Ooze.
00:56:13.000 Yes!
00:56:14.000 Go Chauvin!
00:56:14.000 Go Chauvin!
00:56:15.000 Go!
00:56:17.000 You're free!
00:56:17.000 And then Suge Knight dangles him from a balcony.
00:56:20.000 They should have Suge Knight in there just for no reason.
00:56:23.000 Yeah, just cause.
00:56:25.000 But black people can't get voter ID, they don't know how to use the internet, and in this case it's, well they commit 37 times the crime because they're black.
00:56:32.000 They commit that because police officers are more likely to shoot them.
00:56:35.000 We know none of that is true, and they think that some of this will be fixed with $200 more per pupil spending in education.
00:56:42.000 Look, Black Lives Matter has decided to destroy, they've said that the nuclear family is a symbol of white patriarchy.
00:56:49.000 Well, you know what?
00:56:50.000 At one point, it was actually a symbol of black culture in this country, because black families had a lower divorce rate.
00:56:56.000 They had more children and fewer divorces.
00:56:59.000 And guess what?
00:57:00.000 They were doing better, as far as family at that point.
00:57:04.000 Literacy rates were increasing at a faster rate than after the Lyndon Johnson rules.
00:57:11.000 For them to now say that's a symbol of white privilege is very clear that there has been a goal to systematically pull up the thread that allows for self-governance in this country, and that is the family unit.
00:57:22.000 And considering that a huge percentage, a majority of young black men grow up without a dad, that's the single greatest indicator that you have.
00:57:29.000 But no one can say it, and this is the problem.
00:57:31.000 When all of this is based on a lie, guess what?
00:57:34.000 You will hurt the black community more When your biggest spokespeople, your biggest mouthpiece, Black Lives Matter, says, we want fewer dads in the house.
00:57:43.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:57:44.000 Well, it's hard to have dads when Kamala keeps arresting them.
00:57:47.000 Well, that's true.
00:57:48.000 Or banging them.
00:57:49.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:57:50.000 One of the two.
00:57:51.000 We always hear education is a silver bullet, man.
00:57:53.000 And we'll say, well, there's some truth to that.
00:57:55.000 But the silver bullet is actually having two parents in the household.
00:57:59.000 Yes.
00:57:59.000 Right?
00:57:59.000 A mother and a father.
00:58:00.000 Now, if somebody dies, that's a different situation.
00:58:02.000 Of course.
00:58:02.000 It still ends up being tough because you still have one parent.
00:58:05.000 But, two people in the household.
00:58:07.000 A mom and a dad.
00:58:08.000 That's the silver bullet.
00:58:08.000 Where's that kid the majority of the time of the day?
00:58:11.000 Right.
00:58:11.000 They're with their family?
00:58:11.000 Well, it doesn't matter.
00:58:12.000 Exactly, right?
00:58:13.000 So, the problem that teachers say you have with education is that it's not about what they learn during the day, it's what their parents reinforce at night.
00:58:19.000 They just come back the next day and have to learn the same stuff over again.
00:58:22.000 And so, that does play out, right?
00:58:24.000 We're not trying to solve the actual problems.
00:58:26.000 We're trying to say we can fix it with a band-aid and never address the real issue.
00:58:30.000 And if you say it, like you just said, you're racist for pointing that out.
00:58:34.000 No, you're not racist in any way, I think, for stating facts, but there is a part of it where, but there is an issue with black people in the police, it dates back very, very far, and there is with whites in the police.
00:58:46.000 Like I've said, I've actually been beaten by cops.
00:58:48.000 You shouldn't spit on him and insult his wife.
00:58:50.000 Well, in fairness, you're right.
00:58:52.000 I'm not saying that I didn't deserve it.
00:58:54.000 When I was thrown down the stairs, though... Yeah, you didn't deserve that.
00:58:57.000 No, that was too far.
00:59:00.000 That was one cop who was a dick.
00:59:02.000 Yeah, but you're right though, there has been a problem.
00:59:03.000 I forgot that your Growing Up story is a Walking Lifetime movie.
00:59:07.000 Yes, it is.
00:59:07.000 Just him being pushed down a flight of stairs.
00:59:09.000 Yes, and at the end I beat up Meredith Baxter-Bernie.
00:59:14.000 Yeah, he thought I was a lady.
00:59:17.000 I'm like, I'm pregnant.
00:59:20.000 You're 100% right, Dave.
00:59:21.000 There's been a problem in the policing in some urban areas that are statistically highly black areas that white cops have done horrific things.
00:59:30.000 That is absolutely true, right?
00:59:31.000 You have to deal with that.
00:59:32.000 But the only way to deal with that is to deal with reality.
00:59:35.000 Right now we have thrown kind of this fake outrage and this straw man that we've built that everybody's attacking that won't solve the problem.
00:59:41.000 And we have a higher percentage of minorities and black people in the police force than the general population.
00:59:45.000 Of course, yeah.
00:59:46.000 But they're all Uncle Tom.
00:59:47.000 The tide is turning for sure.
00:59:49.000 No, this has been happening for a very long time, for decades.
00:59:51.000 No, I agree.
00:59:52.000 It was turning for a long time, so I think we're pretty much there.
00:59:54.000 But there is this passed-down fear that people have.
00:59:57.000 When you see George Floyd right there, he's afraid of that guy.
01:00:00.000 He may not be afraid of the other three, but he has a legitimate fear of that guy.
01:00:04.000 Well, he wasn't afraid for the first 20 minutes.
01:00:06.000 I think he was.
01:00:07.000 I think anybody being stopped by police is going to be afraid.
01:00:11.000 Okay, but that's the point.
01:00:13.000 Listen, you're driving, you're high, you're not complying with the police officer saying, I'm not gonna shoot you.
01:00:17.000 No, look, I'll put you in the car, I'll leave the air on, the guy's high as a kite.
01:00:21.000 Maybe you should, I think you should be concerned if he's breaking the law and he has a rap sheet a mile long.
01:00:26.000 You should be, yeah.
01:00:27.000 Oh no, and I'm not saying you're wrong about that.
01:00:29.000 If you're concerned, here's what you do.
01:00:31.000 You turn the car off, you take the keys out of the ignition, you put your hands on the steering wheel, and you ask the officer, Officer, what can I do?
01:00:37.000 Just, you comply.
01:00:39.000 Those are the things.
01:00:39.000 Now, I get if you're scared.
01:00:40.000 I do that when I'm asking a police officer for directions.
01:00:44.000 I walk up, I go, hey, excuse me, officer.
01:00:45.000 Ha!
01:00:47.000 Hands!
01:00:48.000 Here!
01:00:48.000 Hey!
01:00:48.000 Do you know how to get to the nearest Dunkin' Donuts?
01:00:51.000 Because I want to get those commies at Starbucks the time of day.
01:00:53.000 I say I'm reaching for my phone.
01:00:55.000 I'm reaching for my phone.
01:00:56.000 I'm reaching because my insurance is on there now.
01:00:59.000 The thing about my phone is it's shaped like a gun.
01:01:02.000 Blam!
01:01:04.000 And then they let me go.
01:01:06.000 And you say blam?
01:01:08.000 Yeah, then they realize it's just you joking and they're like, ah, crowded.
01:01:11.000 Well, they mainly realize it's me, white.
01:01:13.000 It's that white privilege card.
01:01:14.000 Yeah, once I rolled on the tin of windows, they're like, you can go.
01:01:18.000 Oh, we thought you were somebody else.
01:01:20.000 They give me six cookies on the way.
01:01:23.000 That's the part, is there's always been an issue with some police officers in power.
01:01:27.000 Yeah, of course.
01:01:28.000 That is just a fact, and I think that's something that does have to be acknowledged in this situation.
01:01:32.000 And he looks like a guy, and because of his rap sheet as well, that would abuse his power.
01:01:38.000 In my opinion.
01:01:39.000 I didn't see that in this tape.
01:01:40.000 I see it at the very end where he didn't roll him over.
01:01:43.000 Yeah, and I wonder how much the audience played into that, right?
01:01:45.000 He's heckler from the street side.
01:01:47.000 At that point you have to take into consideration, if you put a guy in recovery position, that also means that he can get out.
01:01:54.000 He can move, and he's surrounded by people now who are yelling and recording, and that can become a very dangerous situation.
01:01:59.000 Well, his attention's now distracted.
01:02:00.000 He's not just thinking about the person that he's holding down, he's thinking about a group of people that are starting to get a little bit more tense.
01:02:08.000 Now, they had understandable reason to say, hey, he's not moving, get off of him.
01:02:11.000 I think both, I think to Dave's point, both were afraid of each other.
01:02:15.000 How big is George?
01:02:16.000 Is he 6'7"?
01:02:17.000 Big dude.
01:02:19.000 6'6", huge, known violent offender.
01:02:22.000 I mean, look.
01:02:23.000 I don't want to say sociopathic, but someone who robs a woman, encases the joint with his buddies, jams a pistol into her stomach when her toddler is in the room, and continues living a life of crime.
01:02:36.000 That's the kind of person who you have to take seriously, and you know the officers knew that when they pulled up on him.
01:02:41.000 And then I think he's probably afraid of Chauvin because they knew each other, and he knew that he was a police officer, and in some cases... You know, I've read about it, I haven't seen extensive proof that Chauvin has been this monster that they make him out to be as far as abusing his power, and I just don't see it in this tape.
01:02:55.000 I really don't.
01:02:56.000 I see it as an unfortunate situation that happened, and again, it certainly isn't justification for the statistics, but for a lie regarding the statistics of crime between Officers and black americans and we're not having an honest
01:03:08.000 dialogue, but I do think something that has helped us a silver lining
01:03:12.000 Some progress and we make baby steps along the way is of course in minneapolis the wonderful george floyd
01:03:18.000 Autonomous zone where multiple bodies have been found people have been killed because police are not allowed in
01:03:24.000 so baby steps oh
01:03:27.000 See they have to walk around the autonomous zone and there was a young black person who was
01:03:46.000 Shot in there and then died because they couldn't help you get body out
01:03:51.000 I don't think you should just get to have an autonomous zone.
01:03:54.000 I'm gonna throw it out there.
01:03:56.000 It makes no sense that you can just take over the blocks of a city.
01:04:00.000 I remember when I first heard about it, someone had to explain.
01:04:02.000 I'm like, what do you mean?
01:04:03.000 Autonomous zone?
01:04:03.000 What do you mean?
01:04:04.000 They just took it over and they're not letting anyone in.
01:04:06.000 I'm like, you can do that?
01:04:08.000 Depending on that.
01:04:13.000 Yeah, downtown Seattle's just Peter-topia from Family Guy.
01:04:16.000 You're like, what happened?
01:04:18.000 You're not allowed to just have this.
01:04:19.000 Yeah, we are.
01:04:20.000 And the cop's like, oh, I'm sorry.
01:04:21.000 They're like, listen, there's a rapper here with a $40,000 grant from the government.
01:04:25.000 He's our king.
01:04:29.000 Yeah.
01:04:30.000 What, did it take a couple of weeks for that thing to fall apart?
01:04:32.000 Well, yeah.
01:04:33.000 Not before our interns were chased off with guns.
01:04:36.000 Rightfully so.
01:04:37.000 And quarter black Garrett and even Brendan.
01:04:39.000 It's like when a guy's car's stolen and he's like, somebody call the police.
01:04:42.000 It's like, you really don't get this, do you?
01:04:45.000 Autonomous zone.
01:04:46.000 I think there's something with the sequence of events and disconnect here, Raz.
01:04:51.000 This is the extremes, though.
01:04:53.000 That's the problem, is we're looking at the extremes and the extremes are controlling the narrative.
01:04:57.000 I don't think we're looking at extremes.
01:04:58.000 I think we're looking at one side, which is extreme, that's controlling the narrative right now.
01:05:02.000 I mean, the police are being defunded.
01:05:04.000 The left is not saying, hey, we need to, I guess, weaken the police union so that bad police officers can be hired, because they can't do that.
01:05:13.000 They're saying, hey, defund the police, and that actually means defund the police, or remove qualified immunity, no chokeholds, which I vehemently disagree with.
01:05:22.000 I guess just hit someone mercilessly with a baton or use a taser that doesn't work on someone with PCP.
01:05:26.000 If someone is committing a serious violent crime, let's say you are down on your luck, you're hungry, you're stealing, you commit armed robbery, and you know that you deserve to go to prison, you would pray that you get choked unconscious and wake up in the paddy wagon.
01:05:40.000 That's the most gentle way to go as someone who's been choked out many times.
01:05:44.000 I still wear a leather helmet when I'm not doing the show.
01:05:47.000 I wear a full mask.
01:05:50.000 We all do, which by the way, I think actually, so the George Floyd, we went down to Chaz, you guys know that in Seattle.
01:05:54.000 We sent our team, we broadcast live from there for a while.
01:05:58.000 We weren't able to do a whole show from there, but we have, do we have him?
01:06:01.000 So, actually, live on location, our on-the-ground correspondent at the Minneapolis Autonomous
01:06:06.000 Zone is Thomas Finnegan.
01:06:08.000 Okay, Mr. Finnegan, I know things are heating up there with the trial underway.
01:06:22.000 Can you hear me?
01:06:22.000 Tell us what's going on on the ground.
01:06:24.000 Good morning, Stephen.
01:06:25.000 I'm in Minneapolis at George Floyd Square, the new autonomous zone.
01:06:28.000 We know that, yeah.
01:06:30.000 Yeah, what's going on?
01:06:31.000 Let's see.
01:06:32.000 There's some gentlemen over there.
01:06:38.000 I'll go ask them some questions.
01:06:39.000 Well, I don't think that's not, that's not, we don't have the insurance, Ryder.
01:06:42.000 Tom, Tom, Thomas, no, uh... What's this white motherfucker doing?
01:06:47.000 No cameras!
01:06:48.000 Yeah, I don't...
01:06:50.000 Well, we'll check back in with him later.
01:06:58.000 Brave Mr. Finnegan.
01:07:00.000 He's a tough reporter.
01:07:01.000 Seems we should see this coming.
01:07:02.000 Yeah.
01:07:03.000 They're going on now?
01:07:04.000 They're doing the opening statement?
01:07:05.000 He's still addressing the jurors, it looks like.
01:07:07.000 Alright, let's see Mr. Turtle Shell Mask addressing the jurors.
01:07:10.000 Again, the hashtag is Crowder Chauvin Stream because I'm not on the Twitter.
01:07:15.000 And you can just send all your tweets to at Dave Landau.
01:07:17.000 I know, he's like... Landau Dave.
01:07:19.000 Yes, please.
01:07:20.000 We can't hear what he's saying right now, but I imagine he's saying, your lives are over if you don't convict this fellow.
01:07:24.000 Yes.
01:07:25.000 Yeah.
01:07:26.000 Is Nancy Pelosi in the back there?
01:07:30.000 Opening statement.
01:07:32.000 How is that going?
01:07:33.000 Like, do people understand what airborne particles are?
01:07:38.000 No.
01:07:39.000 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, good morning.
01:07:42.000 My name is Jerry Blackwell and I apologize for talking you through this question.
01:07:46.000 Hilarious.
01:07:48.000 It's probably the least of the gifts that the pandemic has given us.
01:07:52.000 You're going to learn in this case a lot about what it means to be a public servant and to have the honor of wearing this badge.
01:08:03.000 It's a small badge that carries with it a large responsibility and a large accountability to the public.
01:08:13.000 What does it stand for?
01:08:15.000 It represents the very motto of the Minneapolis Police Department.
01:08:19.000 Motto?
01:08:19.000 To protect with courage, to serve with compassion, but it also represents the essence of the Minneapolis Police Department approach to the use of force against its citizens when appropriate.
01:08:36.000 A sanctity of life and the protection of the public shall be the cornerstones of the Minneapolis Police Department's use of force.
01:08:46.000 Compassion, sanctity of life, cornerstones, and that little badge is worn right over the officer's heart.
01:08:53.000 He's already a better lawyer, I'm sorry.
01:08:55.000 But you're also going to learn that the officers take an oath when they become police officers.
01:09:02.000 They take an oath that I will enforce the law, courteously and appropriately, and as you will learn, as applies to this case, never employing a necessary force or violence.
01:09:17.000 And not only that, I recognize the badge at my office as a symbol of public faith, and I accept it as a public trust to be held so long as I am true to the ethics of police service.
01:09:35.000 Symbol of public faith, ethics to police service, sanctity of life, all of this matters tremendously to this case.
01:09:43.000 Because you will learn that on May 25th of 2020, Mr. Derek Chauvin betrayed this badge when he used excessive and unreasonable force upon the body of Mr. George Floyd.
01:10:03.000 That he put his knees upon his neck and his back which is in the training manual.
01:10:08.000 ... grinding and crushing him until the very breath, no ladies and gentlemen, until the very life
01:10:15.000 were squeezed out of him.
01:10:17.000 No, no, that's not true.
01:10:19.000 There wasn't squeezed out of him.
01:10:20.000 Look, we have the coroner's report.
01:10:22.000 It wasn't asphyxiation.
01:10:23.000 That's not what happened.
01:10:24.000 He died because there was an overdose of drugs in his system.
01:10:28.000 He had COVID.
01:10:29.000 He had difficulty breathing.
01:10:30.000 There is no evidence, none whatsoever, that it came from the knee on the neck.
01:10:33.000 Now, that's not pleasant.
01:10:35.000 I'm sure it doesn't help, but that would not cause asphyxiation.
01:10:39.000 That wouldn't choke somebody, and it wouldn't cause diaphragmic asphyxiation.
01:10:43.000 This is also something that I know pretty well.
01:10:44.000 There was a guy who used to be called Kavaka in Jiu Jitsu, where he would do a move that would compress your diaphragm and you couldn't breathe.
01:10:51.000 That is something that can be done.
01:10:52.000 That would be done from a knee on the belly or in the solar plexus.
01:10:55.000 The coroner's report shows that that is not what happened.
01:11:00.000 So we need to be clear about that.
01:11:01.000 Did he die from the knee on the neck?
01:11:03.000 No.
01:11:05.000 But do you think it could be argued, because he was on drugs, that he could have been riled up by that situation?
01:11:11.000 He could have been, but considering that this is a technique that's been used by the department for years, and it hasn't happened with anyone else, we would have to say, okay, what's the outlier here?
01:11:20.000 It's the copious amounts of drugs that we know cause fatal overdoses.
01:11:22.000 Right, and... Go ahead, yeah, I think we need to go back.
01:11:24.000 Yeah, yeah, sorry, but hold that thought.
01:11:26.000 We are bringing this case, this prosecution against Mr. Chauvin, For the excessive force that he applied on the body of Mr. George Floyd for engaging in behavior that was imminently dangerous in the force that he applied without regard for its impact on the life of Mr. George Floyd.
01:11:50.000 So let's begin by focusing, then, on what we learned about these nine minutes.
01:11:52.000 Disagree with that.
01:11:53.000 Without regard.
01:11:53.000 Tried to get him in the car.
01:11:55.000 Told him he wouldn't shoot him.
01:11:56.000 Offered to get him in the car with cooled seats, air conditioning windows open, and a sunroof, and George Floyd requested that he be put on the ground, at which point he used a police protocol to ensure that the man could not leave.
01:12:08.000 Now, I don't think it's a good protocol.
01:12:10.000 Right.
01:12:10.000 But the idea with total disregard, would you say, hey, get in the car, I'll turn on me?
01:12:15.000 That's not total disregard.
01:12:16.000 No.
01:12:16.000 Hey man, come on, please, get in the car.
01:12:18.000 That's not total disregard.
01:12:20.000 You can watch the full tape.
01:12:21.000 If George Floyd had died at home, which is very possible, it would have been ruled an overdose because of the obscene amounts of fentanyl methamphetamine in his system combined with a heart condition and COVID.
01:12:33.000 I don't believe it was total disregard for the first 19 minutes.
01:12:36.000 I just think it's weird that Mr. Chauvin is there with a notepad drawing penises.
01:12:43.000 It's just a weird time, right?
01:12:45.000 Poor taste.
01:12:46.000 Any other time.
01:12:47.000 When you got a drum, when you got a drum.
01:12:49.000 He says, I'll probably die this way.
01:12:51.000 I'm through, I'm through.
01:12:53.000 They're gonna kill me.
01:12:54.000 They're gonna kill me, man.
01:12:55.000 Now hold on a second.
01:12:56.000 Does he say I can't breathe 27 times on the ground?
01:12:59.000 Or are they including the I can't breathe?
01:13:01.000 Keep in mind we have the tape where George Floyd is in the car getting out and they put cuffs on him before they carry him to the cop car.
01:13:07.000 I can't breathe man!
01:13:09.000 I can't breathe!
01:13:10.000 Are they including that with the 27 times?
01:13:11.000 Yeah.
01:13:12.000 Or trying to get him into the back seat.
01:13:13.000 I can't breathe needs to be tossed out as entirely irrelevant because he said it immediately.
01:13:19.000 And by the way, it's very common for people to do that with police officers because they believe it's a get-out-of-arrest-free card.
01:13:24.000 Yeah, it is.
01:13:25.000 Chauvin was saying, sorry, Floyd was saying it.
01:13:28.000 Does 27 times include that?
01:13:30.000 Can we find that?
01:13:30.000 Can we fact check that?
01:13:31.000 Because we counted dozens of times.
01:13:33.000 Yeah.
01:13:35.000 You will hear his words further apart You will see that his respiration gets shallower and shallower and finally stops when he speaks his last words, I can't breathe.
01:13:50.000 And once we have his final words you'll see that for roughly 53 seconds he is completely silent and virtually motionless with just sporadic movements.
01:14:01.000 You're going to learn those sporadic movements matter greatly in this case because what they reflect Mr. Floyd was no longer breathing when he's making these movements.
01:14:12.000 You will learn about something in this case called an anoxic seizure.
01:14:17.000 It is the body's automatic reflex.
01:14:21.000 When breathing has stopped due to oxygen deprivation, we'll be able to point out to you when you'll see the involuntary movements from Mr. Floyd that are part of an anoxic seizure.
01:14:31.000 Not only that, you're going to learn about something that's called agonal breathing.
01:14:37.000 When the heart has stopped, when blood is no longer coursing through the veins, you will hear the body gasp as an involuntary reflex.
01:14:45.000 We'll point out to you... See, all this, by the way, is designed to try and connect the dots that he was asphyxiated by the cop.
01:14:50.000 No, he wasn't.
01:14:51.000 The report shows that he wasn't.
01:14:52.000 Blood stopped coursing through his veins because of shoving.
01:14:54.000 That's not what happened.
01:14:56.000 You can say he panicked, sure.
01:14:58.000 You can say Chauvin had his knee on him for too long, sure.
01:15:02.000 But the idea that he died because of Chauvin, no.
01:15:06.000 And you know what?
01:15:07.000 We can do that.
01:15:07.000 I'll have you put your knee on my neck here in this studio right afterwards.
01:15:10.000 Again?
01:15:11.000 Is it uncomfortable?
01:15:12.000 It is uncomfortable, but the reason they teach it to police officers is because it wouldn't asphyxiate someone.
01:15:17.000 This is a guy who was on fentanyl, who was on meth, this is a guy who was very heavy, had a pre-existing heart condition, and had COVID.
01:15:25.000 Anywhere else in the media right now, Fauci would be touting it as a COVID death.
01:15:29.000 Let's be clear about that.
01:15:31.000 They're trying to connect the dots so you think that All of these, right now, all of these issues, all of these, the issues of twitching, the issue of blood flow stopping, that that is directly attributable to the knee on the neck.
01:15:42.000 Just like they want you to think that 27 times I can't breathe is directly attributable to Chauvin's action.
01:15:48.000 It's not!
01:15:49.000 It's not because he was saying it when he was in his car, when he was out of both cars, and when they were trying to get him in the cop car.
01:15:54.000 So, we need to be clear here, don't connect dots where they don't connect.
01:15:59.000 I do think, and again, this is my opinion, but Chauvin is guilty there, but at the same time, how comfortable are we supposed to make criminals?
01:16:08.000 This is what I don't understand.
01:16:09.000 You're committing a crime, the result is a punishment.
01:16:12.000 Getting arrested is a punishment.
01:16:13.000 Right.
01:16:15.000 I mean, I guess it's not the punishment yet.
01:16:16.000 It's not the punishment, the whole point is to get, the point is not punishment, it's to remove you as a threat from society.
01:16:21.000 Right.
01:16:21.000 And at that point, he refused to get in the car, they couldn't remove him.
01:16:23.000 Yeah.
01:16:24.000 But how comfortable are you supposed to make somebody during that?
01:16:27.000 It just doesn't make any sense to me.
01:16:28.000 If you're doing everything that you can, how much farther do you have to take it?
01:16:34.000 I don't know.
01:16:35.000 Well, if you look at the new laws they're proposing, you can't subdue them at all.
01:16:38.000 You have to let them go.
01:16:39.000 Move the lifeless body of George Floyd onto the gurney.
01:16:42.000 Only if they have COVID you have to let them go.
01:16:44.000 Just like Georgia, they want you to be able to fight two officers, tase them in the face, and still go.
01:16:48.000 And you're right, anything could happen. It would have been called a COVID death.
01:16:51.000 Move the lifeless body of George Floyd onto the gurney.
01:16:54.000 Only then does Mr. Chauvin let up and get up.
01:16:58.000 And you'll see him drag Mr. Floyd's body and unceremoniously cast it onto the gurney.
01:17:05.000 Oh, come on.
01:17:05.000 How is he going to pick up a guy 260-270 pounds?
01:17:07.000 There wasn't a nearby florist.
01:17:08.000 Like roadkill with a stick.
01:17:09.000 Yeah, there wasn't a nearby florist.
01:17:11.000 He's pointing the carcass of his enemy onto this.
01:17:13.000 That's not what happened.
01:17:14.000 Like roadkill with a stick.
01:17:15.000 Like me with the snapping turtle where I told you that story where I...
01:17:19.000 There was a snapping turtle in the road.
01:17:22.000 I'll tell you this really quickly.
01:17:23.000 There was a snapping turtle in the road.
01:17:24.000 This has happened to me twice, and I don't want to kill it, but the thing would get up, turn around, and snapped my stick in half.
01:17:31.000 And I knew off the road there's a little pond, a little river, so there was a construction area where there was like two-by-fours kind of stakes, so what I finally did was I got the snapping turtle, because it kept turning around trying to get aggressive with me, so I turned my back to the pond, I scooped it, and like Highland Games, I scooped it and whipped it back Into the pond.
01:17:49.000 Probably went about 50 feet in the air.
01:17:51.000 I heard it plunge.
01:17:52.000 And it landed on a judge's face.
01:17:54.000 He made it.
01:17:54.000 You said this has happened twice?
01:17:57.000 Twice.
01:17:58.000 You've done this twice with snapping turtles?
01:18:00.000 Where are you going with so many snapping turtles?
01:18:02.000 I'll show you.
01:18:02.000 It's not fun.
01:18:03.000 They're all around.
01:18:04.000 They're all around you.
01:18:05.000 Are you going to drive me into the woods and you're like, yeah, we're just going to go see snapping turtles?
01:18:08.000 Hey, what's with the shallow grave?
01:18:10.000 You don't need a deep one, Dave.
01:18:12.000 No, Dave, you have to dig six feet to find them turtles.
01:18:15.000 Just look down there.
01:18:15.000 There's a snapping turtle down there.
01:18:19.000 In the grave?
01:18:20.000 Yeah.
01:18:20.000 Why do you keep calling it a grave?
01:18:22.000 I put some lavender in there.
01:18:24.000 Take a sniff.
01:18:24.000 Do you like lavender?
01:18:26.000 Oh, that's nice lavender.
01:18:28.000 But it is.
01:18:30.000 What did he say?
01:18:32.000 He said it has to be consistent with training.
01:18:36.000 It is consistent with training.
01:18:36.000 It is.
01:18:37.000 That is consistent.
01:18:39.000 I have a problem with the training.
01:18:41.000 You guys should have a problem with the training.
01:18:42.000 I do.
01:18:43.000 But your problem is with the training.
01:18:45.000 Let's be clear.
01:18:46.000 Chauvin didn't go rogue by putting his knee on his neck.
01:18:49.000 He was taught that.
01:18:51.000 And police officers get mad at me.
01:18:52.000 Most of our police officers, when it comes to physical altercations outside of the use of weapons, are incompetent.
01:18:58.000 Are completely incompetent, and that needs to be fixed.
01:19:01.000 It's also why we shouldn't have weak female officers out in the field.
01:19:04.000 What do you think a weak female officer is going to do when you get nailed in the head with a snare drum by Antifa, and you're 5'2", and you have to do a plank because you can't do the knee tuck for the PT requirement?
01:19:14.000 I want big, strong, capable men who don't have to use their weapons.
01:19:20.000 Or a sturdy girl.
01:19:21.000 A buxom woman.
01:19:24.000 I want GSP.
01:19:25.000 George St.
01:19:25.000 Pierre is the perfect police officer.
01:19:26.000 He's a welterweight.
01:19:27.000 Yeah, but he's fine.
01:19:28.000 It doesn't matter.
01:19:29.000 I want Sly Stallone's ex that hooks up with Flava Flav.
01:19:33.000 I want Frank Stallone.
01:19:34.000 I want him to go, take it back, do-do-do-do, take it back.
01:19:39.000 No.
01:19:39.000 We should listen to this statement because it's, you know, landmark case and what have you.
01:19:45.000 Who was handcuffed, who was not resisting.
01:19:48.000 Not unless he requests to be put on the ground, which he did.
01:19:57.000 Again, we showed you guys the video.
01:20:00.000 You can rewind it and come back here live while you're watching right now.
01:20:03.000 He requested to be put on the ground because he didn't want to be in an open-windowed, air-conditioned car.
01:20:11.000 the other lawyers should be all in white and then there should be ceiling fans on
01:20:16.000 and he should speak with a southern accent while wiping himself with a handkerchief
01:20:19.000 this here is a trial you're also going to learn about another very important
01:20:32.000 policy in the minneapolis police department that's a poor Oh, you know what?
01:20:37.000 Here, let's play this really quickly.
01:20:38.000 Just because they said, Floyd said, I can't breathe 27 times, I've got to believe that includes the many, many times where he tried to use it to get out of being arrested for a crime.
01:20:49.000 I've got to imagine, because we have a clip of him saying, I can't breathe, long before he was even restrained.
01:20:53.000 Here you go.
01:20:54.000 Take a seat.
01:20:55.000 Ah!
01:20:56.000 Leave me!
01:20:57.000 Leave!
01:20:58.000 No, I can't choke.
01:20:59.000 Take a seat.
01:21:00.000 I can't choke.
01:21:01.000 I can't breathe.
01:21:02.000 I can't choke.
01:21:03.000 Leave me!
01:21:04.000 Leave me!
01:21:05.000 Ah!
01:21:07.000 He was looking for private judo lessons.
01:21:09.000 By the way, do you think he would have calmed down in the backseat of that car?
01:21:13.000 If that's your argument, that if you could have just calmed him down, it would have been fine.
01:21:16.000 He would have flipped out.
01:21:17.000 Have you ever tried to calm someone down on fentanyl and methamphetamine?
01:21:20.000 No.
01:21:20.000 And they can't breathe.
01:21:21.000 It proves surprisingly difficult.
01:21:22.000 Fentanyl.
01:21:24.000 They're positively surly!
01:21:26.000 This is Intervention Coordinator.
01:21:29.000 In your custody is in your care.
01:21:31.000 You're going to learn that when Mr. Floyd was unconscious, that when he was breathless, when he did not have a pulse, that there was a duty to have administered care.
01:21:45.000 To let up and get up.
01:21:47.000 Duty.
01:21:47.000 That's exactly what I'm... You listen to Minneapolis Police Commander Katie Blackwell.
01:21:54.000 No relation to my knowledge.
01:21:55.000 But you will hear from Katie Blackwell, and she's going to tell you about the training that Mr. Chauvin received.
01:22:02.000 You're going to hear that he was a veteran on the Minneapolis Police Department for 19 years, had been trained in CPR multiple times at the time.
01:22:13.000 And you'll be able to see for yourself.
01:22:14.000 Okay, really quickly, the reason he didn't perform CPR was also because of another lie.
01:22:19.000 Let's have the control room, the edit bay, bring this up.
01:22:21.000 They called the paramedics.
01:22:23.000 Yeah.
01:22:24.000 They did.
01:22:24.000 They called the paramedics.
01:22:25.000 Did the paramedics perform the CPR?
01:22:27.000 Yeah.
01:22:28.000 One of the officers did as well.
01:22:29.000 Right.
01:22:29.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:22:32.000 One of the officers performed CPR as well?
01:22:33.000 Yeah.
01:22:33.000 And then they waited for the paramedics.
01:22:35.000 So they called the paramedics.
01:22:36.000 That was a lie too, right?
01:22:37.000 Why was this man there when no medical assistance was called?
01:22:40.000 It was.
01:22:40.000 Why was no medical assistance provided?
01:22:42.000 It was.
01:22:43.000 So what they are trying to make you think right now is no medical assistance was called.
01:22:46.000 It was.
01:22:47.000 And no one helped?
01:22:48.000 No.
01:22:49.000 Chauvin didn't perform the CPR.
01:22:51.000 Cause another officer did.
01:22:52.000 What if the other officer is better?
01:22:53.000 What if he just recently had his refresher course?
01:22:56.000 It doesn't matter if Chauvin did it.
01:22:58.000 It matters if he was provided the proper medical attention, which he was, but the media lied about that too.
01:23:05.000 But it also matters when they knew that he needed it.
01:23:07.000 Did they think he was just passed out because he was on drugs and they were finally able to control him or did they know?
01:23:12.000 And they may, if they knew early and didn't provide it, then that's where this case comes in.
01:23:16.000 Right.
01:23:17.000 But they're assuming that right now.
01:23:18.000 Well, he just said Chauvin didn't provide CPR.
01:23:21.000 Right, yeah.
01:23:21.000 I ain't putting my lips on another man's lips.
01:23:24.000 I ain't that kind of guy, man.
01:23:27.000 I ain't just gonna do that.
01:23:30.000 Give him CPR.
01:23:34.000 That's gay.
01:23:37.000 He is going to tell you that Mr. Chauvin's conduct was not consistent with Minneapolis Police Department training.
01:23:45.000 It was.
01:23:46.000 But is that the same guy who lied about it earlier?
01:23:50.000 You know, if Mahoney wasn't joking around all the time, the police would take their jobs a lot more seriously.
01:23:55.000 He's very clear, he'd be very decisive that this was excessive force.
01:24:02.000 So ultimately ladies and gentlemen, what was this all about in the first place?
01:24:06.000 Here we go.
01:24:07.000 Here it is.
01:24:08.000 Well you got to learn that it was about a counterfeit $20 bill used at a convenience
01:24:16.000 store.
01:24:17.000 That's all.
01:24:19.000 You will not hear any evidence that Mr. Floyd knew that it was fake or did it on purpose.
01:24:24.000 You will learn from witnesses we will call.
01:24:27.000 Nope.
01:24:30.000 They couldn't have.
01:24:32.000 Again, go to the clip.
01:24:33.000 They couldn't have because he wasn't complying the moment they pulled him over.
01:24:35.000 over. Started screaming, don't shoot me, my mom's dead. And they said, well, reaching
01:24:39.000 for the, reaching erratically in the car. I said, keep your hands where I can see them.
01:24:42.000 And he didn't. And that escalated it. Look, maybe this time it wasn't a violent crime
01:24:46.000 like George Floyd had committed many, many times in the past. Not saying he deserves
01:24:49.000 Not saying that at all.
01:24:50.000 But let's be honest, many, many violent crimes in the past, a rap sheet.
01:24:54.000 Maybe that's not what happened.
01:24:54.000 Maybe they could have given a ticket for a counterfeit 20, assuming that he didn't even know and he wasn't high on drugs.
01:25:00.000 But that is irrelevant because then the time frame changes from erratic non-compliance for 10 minutes with the officers.
01:25:09.000 It's no longer about the counterfeit 20.
01:25:12.000 They didn't put him on the ground because of a counterfeit 20.
01:25:14.000 They put him on the ground because he yelled and he screamed and he was non-compliant for 10 minutes and he requested to be put on the ground.
01:25:20.000 Has nothing to do at that point with the counterfeit 20.
01:25:22.000 If you're pulled over for going 10 over the speeding limit and the officer says, let me see your ID and you start screaming about you're not that kind of guy and you don't give him your ID and you're reaching for something other than your ID and the officers
01:25:35.000 say get out of the car and then you say that you can't breathe, you're not that kind
01:25:38.000 of guy and they say we're going to need to get you into the car while we check your plate
01:25:41.000 and you refuse to and you request to be put on the ground, it's no longer about your speeding
01:25:46.000 ticket.
01:25:52.000 Because I know it was a suspicion of a counterfeit 20.
01:25:56.000 I don't know that we know that.
01:25:58.000 It doesn't really matter.
01:25:59.000 No, it doesn't.
01:26:00.000 But I'm curious.
01:26:03.000 I don't think he knew.
01:26:04.000 I mean, if I'm being honest, he's just a guy on drugs who probably runs around with people.
01:26:09.000 I think he was an upstanding citizen who would be positively offended to see that someone had counterfeit a bill.
01:26:15.000 Yeah.
01:26:16.000 That's what I was saying.
01:26:19.000 It just sucks.
01:26:22.000 It does.
01:26:23.000 And on so many levels.
01:26:25.000 It sucks on so many levels, but what really sucks is that black people are going to be more vulnerable because of these riots and the defunding of police based on a false narrative.
01:26:33.000 And you're seeing them try to reconstruct it at every turn.
01:26:37.000 He said he couldn't breathe.
01:26:38.000 He said he couldn't breathe long before he requested being put in his stomach.
01:26:41.000 This is just what we've seen so far.
01:26:42.000 He didn't know it was a counterfeit 20.
01:26:44.000 It has nothing to do with a counterfeit 20.
01:26:46.000 It has to do with over 10 minutes of non-compliance.
01:26:50.000 He was asphyxiated.
01:26:51.000 Nope.
01:26:51.000 The coroner report shows that he was not asphyxiated.
01:26:53.000 There was no damage to the spinal cord whatsoever.
01:26:55.000 These things aren't true.
01:26:57.000 It wasn't a part of police training.
01:26:58.000 It absolutely was a part of police training.
01:27:00.000 Now, it doesn't mean that there's no accountability or culpability, but you have to then sentence based on the evidence, not based on signs between Walgreens burnings.
01:27:11.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:27:13.000 You guys remember this happened to a white guy in Dallas too, right?
01:27:15.000 Yes.
01:27:16.000 Virtually the exact same scenario.
01:27:18.000 Yes, well it happens all the time.
01:27:19.000 Who died of fentanyl?
01:27:21.000 No, who died after saying he couldn't breathe and cops were subduing him and had him on the ground.
01:27:25.000 Same kind of situation, but did you see the riots and burning of Walgreens then?
01:27:30.000 No.
01:27:30.000 It didn't happen.
01:27:33.000 I stole a hat.
01:27:35.000 Apparently there are a few extra five-finger discounts at Lane Bryant, so the rage rears its head in one form or another.
01:27:41.000 Don't you need ten fingers for that stuff?
01:27:44.000 For a big gal.
01:27:46.000 That's for a big female officer.
01:27:48.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:27:51.000 If you want to see it, we have that body cam footage, and it's not a show of him, but it's the rookie cop who's doing CPR.
01:27:57.000 Oh, okay, let's show this.
01:27:57.000 So this is the rookie cop who was doing CPR before the paramedics got there who were called.
01:28:02.000 It's inside the paramedic.
01:28:06.000 Oh, okay, good.
01:28:07.000 Well, let's show it.
01:28:07.000 So the cops were giving him CPR?
01:28:10.000 So the cops were giving him CPR?
01:28:17.000 Yeah.
01:28:18.000 I feel like it's a bit late.
01:28:22.000 I mean, they got him in right away and started doing it right away.
01:28:28.000 Yeah, that's true.
01:28:29.000 I just don't like looking at it.
01:28:30.000 No, I know.
01:28:31.000 No one likes it.
01:28:32.000 All right, that's enough there, Tokunawan.
01:28:33.000 He's Okinawan, so he's right.
01:28:34.000 I think the whole situation just sucks, and this is what happens when a bunch of people,
01:28:38.000 maybe who don't necessarily know what they're doing, one's on drugs, poor training, whatever,
01:28:43.000 I don't think that a cop would willingly, with all those cameras on him, necessarily do this, but I do think he is responsible for it.
01:28:50.000 That's just how I feel.
01:28:52.000 But what is he responsible for, specifically?
01:28:54.000 I don't think he's responsible for murder.
01:28:55.000 I think he's responsible for manslaughter, though.
01:28:58.000 That's a pretty high bar, though.
01:28:59.000 I mean, you're talking about putting somebody away for, what, 20 weeks?
01:29:01.000 You've never seen me LULO.
01:29:04.000 15 to 20 years.
01:29:05.000 I don't know what the manslaughter deal is.
01:29:07.000 Wait, that's a low bar.
01:29:08.000 I don't either.
01:29:09.000 Oh, I thought it was a high bar.
01:29:11.000 That's probably why I'm so good at limbo.
01:29:12.000 When you do basketball up there, you and Cuomo, they lower the rim.
01:29:16.000 When you limbo, they raise the bar.
01:29:18.000 Just so you know, I can dunk on a 5 foot rim.
01:29:21.000 Very good for you.
01:29:23.000 Cuomo can dunk on a 4 foot rim.
01:29:25.000 Especially if he can face palm a toddler out of the way while he does it.
01:29:29.000 I'm 5'6".
01:29:29.000 I could not dunk on a 5'7 rim.
01:29:32.000 I'm not kidding.
01:29:34.000 No way.
01:29:35.000 Alright, let's go back to the statement.
01:29:37.000 So I'm going to show you in a moment one of the videos that you're going to see in this trial just to kind of tee up for you what will be the essence of what we will be focused on in the trial.
01:29:49.000 I need to tell you ahead of time that the video is graphic, that it can be difficult to watch.
01:29:56.000 So to be clear, second degree manslaughter, the definition is by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another.
01:30:05.000 So Chauvin would have to have displayed culpable negligence, considering that he was following the police department protocol.
01:30:12.000 That's pretty tough.
01:30:13.000 Again, going by the law.
01:30:14.000 It would mean that he had to consciously create a scenario where he knew that he could kill somebody.
01:30:20.000 Well, we've created a scenario where the sins of everything in the past are now riding on this trial and the potential of extreme violence, which is not what our system of law is based on.
01:30:31.000 It's based on evidence.
01:30:32.000 Well, our system of law is based on systemic racism and patriarchy.
01:30:35.000 Of course.
01:30:36.000 Some of the judges are cocky.
01:30:38.000 You don't learn that at your luau's.
01:30:40.000 Yeah, I do.
01:30:42.000 I vote, we get a pig, we put an apple in its mouth, and by pig I mean cop.
01:30:47.000 Oh wow.
01:30:49.000 Have you seen the little piggies in the starched white shirts?
01:30:49.000 Right?
01:30:56.000 Always have clean shirts to play around in.
01:31:02.000 John Lennon, you're responsible for countless dead cops.
01:31:05.000 He really is.
01:31:06.000 He was shot by a patriot.
01:31:07.000 He was.
01:31:10.000 I joke.
01:31:11.000 He was really the one that broke up the Beatles, though.
01:31:14.000 It was Yoko.
01:31:14.000 He was.
01:31:15.000 Listen, what do you expect from a self-avowed communist who has four Rolls Royces in the Upper West Side?
01:31:20.000 He's really an idiot.
01:31:22.000 He's a man of the people.
01:31:23.000 He also abused his son.
01:31:24.000 Who walks around that neighborhood also in the 70s?
01:31:28.000 You go for a stroll, you're gonna get shot.
01:31:31.000 I don't know what he's on about.
01:31:35.000 Tragedy.
01:31:35.000 Sorry.
01:31:35.000 Nobody got Ringo.
01:31:36.000 I'll put my knee on Ringo's neck.
01:31:39.000 Just for his all-star fame.
01:31:40.000 It's not showing what it feels like to be under the sea.
01:31:44.000 Oh, see the pun!
01:31:45.000 We have older people, younger people.
01:31:47.000 Just for his all-star fame.
01:31:48.000 I'll show you what it feels like to be under the sea.
01:31:51.000 Oh, see the pun.
01:31:52.000 We'll see.
01:31:53.000 Is that they saw something that was shocking to them, that was disturbing to them, and
01:31:58.000 it made them stop and take note.
01:32:00.000 Stop and take note.
01:32:02.000 They tried to first...
01:32:03.000 It does seem long.
01:32:04.000 I'm sorry.
01:32:05.000 That just seems brutally long to put a knee on a man's neck.
01:32:10.000 Here's the thing.
01:32:15.000 If it's taught as a control position, that's not long at all.
01:32:18.000 It's not taught as an asphyxiation.
01:32:19.000 So in other words, if you choke someone for a minute, they're dead.
01:32:22.000 However, anyone who's ever been in, uh, let's take jujitsu matches, because this is where positions like this occur all the time.
01:32:28.000 Now you're speaking my language.
01:32:29.000 It's ten minutes.
01:32:30.000 A ten minute match.
01:32:31.000 And it's very common for someone to be in a control position far more uncomfortable than that for ten minutes and into overtime.
01:32:38.000 So a control position held for ten minutes is not long at all.
01:32:42.000 As a matter of fact, you're supposed to be able to hold it indefinitely.
01:32:44.000 So if it was taught to the police department as a subdue and control position, that's not long.
01:32:50.000 Right.
01:32:50.000 taught as an asphyxiation, which it was not, that's all.
01:32:54.000 People need to understand that.
01:32:55.000 Now, I don't think that it's a good control position. I think it's stupid to be taught to
01:32:58.000 police officers. And I think that pamphlet was probably written by some guy who gave himself
01:33:02.000 a black belt in some bullshit martial art that doesn't exist. And he gave him a position where,
01:33:05.000 frankly, George Floyd could have tipped him off, literally tipped him off of him at any point in
01:33:11.000 time. However, it was taught as a control position. And that's why it matters sort of like when,
01:33:17.000 and I'm not saying this as an insult, but as someone who has had to deal with control positions,
01:33:21.000 right? Half of what we learn in jujitsu and wrestling is how to establish control,
01:33:25.000 how to escape control. 10 minutes is not long. 10 minutes is the minimal expectation of what you are
01:33:31.000 supposed to be able to hold until backup shows up. That's different between a submission or an
01:33:36.000 incapacitating move. For example, tasing someone, hitting them with a nightstick, choking them.
01:33:42.000 That's not what was taught. And this is the problem when you have a group of people watching
01:33:48.000 it who go, well, that looks bad. Look, there are certain things that look bad that are not painful
01:33:53.000 For example, being choked unconscious.
01:33:55.000 That's why we choked Audio Wade here on the show, so that people know what it's like.
01:34:00.000 If they taught police officers this is how you control someone, which is what they did, that's a problem with the training.
01:34:05.000 Okay, they're showing a video.
01:34:06.000 Well, the guy whose name, who wrote the bill, I believe his name is Ray, and he did have a black belt in reijitsu.
01:34:13.000 Good friend.
01:34:14.000 Reikwanjitsu Kaino.
01:34:17.000 I'm in Briody.
01:34:18.000 My name's Brian.
01:34:25.000 If this is all you see...
01:34:34.000 But by the way, they're not choking him there either.
01:34:36.000 That's important to note.
01:34:38.000 They're not choking him there.
01:34:39.000 Right.
01:34:40.000 That is not expelling the air from him.
01:34:41.000 No.
01:34:43.000 Is it bad training?
01:34:44.000 Yes, but that is not a choke.
01:34:45.000 But if that's all you see, you assume that that's because he's saying he can't breathe because of that.
01:34:49.000 If you don't see that he was saying it before, if you don't see that he was saying it when he was getting put in the police car, he was like a cat.
01:34:55.000 Let's bring back up the clip of him saying I can't breathe well before that happened.
01:35:01.000 Show that clip again.
01:35:01.000 Bring that up.
01:35:02.000 Take a seat.
01:35:03.000 Leave me.
01:35:04.000 Leave.
01:35:05.000 No, I can't take a seat.
01:35:06.000 I can't.
01:35:07.000 I can't joke.
01:35:08.000 I can't breathe.
01:35:09.000 Again, that is not commensurate with the level of force being used.
01:35:14.000 He was acting erratically and irrationally.
01:35:17.000 It's the boy who cried wolf at a certain point.
01:35:18.000 When you've been saying, I can't breathe, by their own account, 27 times, now people go, hold on a second.
01:35:23.000 He's also been violent in the past.
01:35:25.000 Is this an excuse to try and get a jump on us?
01:35:26.000 Which happens all the time.
01:35:29.000 Time!
01:35:30.000 And if their weight is distributed properly, and this is why I say, Dave, this matters.
01:35:34.000 If your weight is not on their diaphragm, you're not restricting their breathing.
01:35:37.000 These police officers likely had to have... Look, look, look at that.
01:35:39.000 He just moved his head.
01:35:40.000 He just lifted his head and moved his head, rotated it.
01:35:42.000 Did you see that?
01:35:44.000 Now, it doesn't mean something didn't happen that was wrong, so I'm not saying that.
01:35:47.000 I'm saying that he didn't choke him out by doing this.
01:35:49.000 He didn't suffocate him by doing this.
01:35:51.000 Right.
01:35:51.000 Right?
01:35:52.000 No, I'm just asking... It matters to delineate that, because what they're doing right now is they're showing the jury this and saying, look, that's terrible.
01:35:57.000 He's able to move his head.
01:35:59.000 issue here too is someone again people out there who are college wrestlers
01:36:02.000 high school wrestlers people who do jiu-jitsu judo come on comment send me
01:36:05.000 your chats at mug club lot of car.com slash mug club you know that when
01:36:08.000 someone has a lock on you when someone gets you in a side control position when
01:36:12.000 someone gets you in a cradle you cannot move your head and lift it around you
01:36:16.000 are pinned it's intentionally uncomfortable and they're not trying to
01:36:19.000 do that Hey, by the way, can we also have them pull the clip of
01:36:31.000 where he asked to be put on the ground?
01:36:32.000 Who said it's why you don't do drugs, kid?
01:36:34.000 I think it was Sheldon who said it.
01:36:35.000 That's my, that's my theory.
01:36:36.000 And that bothers me though.
01:36:37.000 Of course it does.
01:36:38.000 That's not, it's not taking it seriously.
01:36:41.000 That shows neglect, I think.
01:36:43.000 Well, hold on, Dave.
01:36:44.000 If this position has been done countless times before, they've had it done to themselves in training, they know what it does to you.
01:36:50.000 And so if they're thinking, OK, I'm doing a position I've done countless times, it's been done to me, it's uncomfortable, I can breathe, it's totally fine, it's not going to hurt anybody, then you can take it like that and say, OK, this guy's just being erratic.
01:37:02.000 You have to take all of this context.
01:37:03.000 It doesn't mean he didn't make a mistake by not turning him over.
01:37:06.000 It doesn't mean that he made a mistake here.
01:37:07.000 His mistake is focusing on the crowd and not on George Floyd.
01:37:10.000 And I don't think it's the crowd's fault.
01:37:12.000 They're scared for a guy.
01:37:13.000 It's his fault for saying, guys, y'all shouldn't do drugs.
01:37:16.000 By the way, there are plenty of instances, especially in these riots, if the crowd starts filming and then beat the hell up.
01:37:21.000 Oh, of course.
01:37:21.000 Yeah, no, I'm not kidding.
01:37:23.000 This happens all the time.
01:37:24.000 Well, I mean, it's the same as Mel Gibson's wife filming him and getting him all riled up and then hitting record.
01:37:29.000 And you will blow me!
01:37:30.000 In the hot tub.
01:37:32.000 Because I deserve it.
01:37:33.000 I love how he feels he needs justification.
01:37:35.000 But I love this, like, he's so like, but I will give you one more chance.
01:37:38.000 One more chance.
01:37:39.000 She's like, really?
01:37:42.000 That's what I wanted, one more chance.
01:37:43.000 One more chance?
01:37:44.000 Do you mean it, father?
01:37:46.000 You made a promise.
01:37:50.000 Oh, I do look forward to the jacuzzi for our fallaciic aquatic rum.
01:37:55.000 Yes, I've told everyone.
01:37:56.000 I can't wait.
01:37:57.000 You've sincerely earned your treatsies.
01:38:00.000 He did, though, by being Mal Gibson.
01:38:02.000 He's like, you like this house?
01:38:03.000 Yeah, me too.
01:38:05.000 I'm gonna pull this out.
01:38:06.000 I'll be in the hot tub.
01:38:09.000 He has a hot tub.
01:38:10.000 Yeah.
01:38:10.000 Just that alone.
01:38:11.000 I'll get to know him.
01:38:14.000 By the way, how scared do you think George Floyd is of Chauvin if he said, don't leave me?
01:38:21.000 I'm sorry, those two things don't add up to me.
01:38:24.000 You're scared for your life against this one police officer who's apparently going to do something terrible to you and you're like, don't leave me man, don't leave me, don't leave me.
01:38:31.000 You don't say that to somebody you're scared of.
01:38:34.000 So all of this matters.
01:38:35.000 But look at all that blood.
01:38:36.000 That's pee.
01:38:38.000 Oh.
01:38:38.000 And that's terrible, and that's the gut-wrenching part of this.
01:38:41.000 Yeah.
01:38:42.000 Is that piss for real?
01:38:43.000 I believe so, yeah.
01:38:44.000 Well, that would indicate fear.
01:38:46.000 Yeah.
01:38:47.000 You pee yourself if you're on drugs, too, right?
01:38:49.000 Or death.
01:38:50.000 Well, I mean, you can.
01:38:52.000 I mean, a lot of people do it just by drinking.
01:38:54.000 Yeah.
01:38:56.000 I do it when I slow dance.
01:39:01.000 Oh, Jesus.
01:39:02.000 Sorry.
01:39:03.000 I know there's a lot of Christians.
01:39:06.000 I know there's a lot of Christians.
01:39:12.000 I'm just looking at one human being to another in an isolated situation, and that's... It's horrible itself.
01:39:18.000 It's hard for me to not look at him like... Even though what he's done in the past, obviously, is horrible, this exact moment is the issue.
01:39:26.000 Yeah, but it's not... Exactly.
01:39:28.000 It's not about what he's done in the past.
01:39:29.000 It's just this moment, I just don't... I think this is too much.
01:39:34.000 But does that mean that Shelvin is guilty of a crime punishable by 15 years in prison?
01:39:39.000 That's the question that we're... The question that I... and the honest answer is yes.
01:39:43.000 By looking at the video and my gut feeling, I just feel that way.
01:39:46.000 But if this is how they're trained, yeah, you're right.
01:39:49.000 There's something to look at.
01:39:50.000 Right, yeah, and I think that's why you want the legal system to be about the facts.
01:39:54.000 Yeah, and not fear of nation-burning.
01:39:57.000 Right, yeah, exactly.
01:39:58.000 I mean, otherwise you end up with O.J.
01:39:59.000 Well, it's not even the nation-burning part, it's the jurors.
01:40:01.000 Like, imagine if you're a juror that votes to not convict.
01:40:04.000 Well, I mean, if the police was there sprinkling blood all over the place, like, for O.J.
01:40:09.000 That was really the problem, was the LAPD was super racist and evidence-tampering.
01:40:15.000 Mark Furman was like, I've never used the N-word on tape 11,000 times.
01:40:20.000 90s wasn't a great time for LAPD.
01:40:21.000 It was not a great time for LAPD.
01:40:23.000 Not a good look.
01:40:24.000 But O.J.
01:40:24.000 did it.
01:40:24.000 He definitely did it.
01:40:25.000 Oh, he totally did it, but you didn't have to fake it.
01:40:28.000 That's my point.
01:40:30.000 We need to add evidence to the mountain of evidence we have.
01:40:35.000 My problem, Dave, with this, again, this is heartbreaking.
01:40:38.000 When I watch this, my gut hurts.
01:40:40.000 Of course, it does.
01:40:41.000 How does your heart not break?
01:40:43.000 But that's the thing.
01:40:44.000 You need to make sure that if you're going to make a judgment call on what happened, you see the whole context.
01:40:50.000 The state showing just this Is trying to get you to see this and have your heart break and never be able to think of it any other way.
01:40:57.000 And the guys that are coming up behind him in the defense and saying, look, but all of this that led up to it matters.
01:41:01.000 All of this that happened matters.
01:41:04.000 It's possible that he would have been so erratic in the back of that car that he could have died on the way to the police station.
01:41:09.000 Yeah, we have that video of him asking to be put on the ground.
01:41:12.000 But it is possible that he had a panic attack and couldn't breathe even then.
01:41:17.000 But you know what, though?
01:41:18.000 Yeah, but you can't base police protocol on not subduing someone if they have a panic attack.
01:41:22.000 Well, I agree.
01:41:22.000 Because, you know, I've had this happen, actually.
01:41:24.000 My dad will tell you, the first time anyone who's ever done jiu-jitsu, I've just gotten into a position, and the first time it happens, I've had people tap.
01:41:30.000 The very first UFC.
01:41:31.000 You watch MMA now, right?
01:41:33.000 And you watch it and you see people, okay, exchanging positions on the ground.
01:41:36.000 The very first fight that ever happened was Hoyce Gracie, 170 pounds, against a boxer named Art Jimerson.
01:41:40.000 He came in with one boxing glove.
01:41:41.000 And do you know what happened?
01:41:42.000 Hoyce Gracie took Art Jimerson down, and he simply got to a position we know as mount.
01:41:47.000 Meaning, he got on top of him.
01:41:50.000 All.
01:41:50.000 And you just see the one boxing glove tapping.
01:41:54.000 He had a panic attack and he tapped.
01:41:56.000 Nowadays, that's just getting started.
01:41:58.000 Someone will escape.
01:41:59.000 There'll be some kind of a sweep rotating positions because people know what's going on.
01:42:03.000 Anyone who goes into their first will panic.
01:42:05.000 This is a professional boxer who simply found himself on his back and he panicked and tapped.
01:42:10.000 And you can hear the story.
01:42:11.000 He's told the story.
01:42:12.000 He said, I feel like I couldn't breathe.
01:42:13.000 I felt like a fish out of water.
01:42:14.000 I panicked.
01:42:15.000 It's supposed to make you feel powerless so that you don't fight and get violent.
01:42:20.000 Let's show the clip really quickly of him asking to be put on the ground, because that is relevant.
01:42:24.000 He is only on the ground by request.
01:42:27.000 And keep in mind, the protocol for keeping someone controlled on the ground is very different from a police car with doors that cannot be opened from the inside, that are childproof, right?
01:42:37.000 That's the point.
01:42:38.000 They tried to get him in the car many, many times.
01:42:40.000 He said, I can't breathe in the car, so put me on the ground.
01:42:43.000 here is his request.
01:42:50.000 He's struggling hard right there.
01:42:54.000 They're trying to push him in the car.
01:42:55.000 And he's saying, I'm gonna get on the ground.
01:42:58.000 And now they're saying, okay, let's get him out and get him on the ground.
01:43:00.000 I'm not gonna worry about it.
01:43:02.000 You walked out a heart attack too.
01:43:04.000 I know I can't breathe.
01:43:06.000 Get in the car!
01:43:08.000 There's some more I can't breathe.
01:43:10.000 There's some more I can't breathe.
01:43:12.000 None.
01:43:12.000 Whatsoever.
01:43:12.000 They're trying to lift him up and he's saying he can't breathe.
01:43:14.000 Is he saying put me on the ground?
01:43:17.000 I can't breathe.
01:43:18.000 Take a seat.
01:43:19.000 There is no weight on him right now.
01:43:21.000 None whatsoever.
01:43:22.000 They're trying to lift him up and he's saying he can't breathe.
01:43:24.000 Is he saying put me on the ground?
01:43:26.000 Yes.
01:43:27.000 He said it multiple times.
01:43:28.000 Earlier he said put me anywhere on the ground.
01:43:31.000 Leave me.
01:43:32.000 I can't fucking breathe.
01:43:33.000 I couldn't tell if it was butt the ground.
01:43:36.000 Because I watched the video a few times but it's hard to understand with all the... Yeah.
01:43:43.000 No, he's saying put me on the ground.
01:43:44.000 He's saying that he wants to go on the ground and he's refusing to get in the car.
01:43:47.000 Well, listen, there's a reason that people put...
01:43:49.000 Put suspects, put assailants, put criminals in cop cars because it's the safest place.
01:43:54.000 Both for them and for the people to whom they could do damage in the community.
01:43:59.000 Someone on fentanyl and meth, someone who's committed multiple violent crimes in the past, a threat to the community, and so you do treat that person differently.
01:44:07.000 Well, and if it comes down to it, Chauvin, now I'm almost going to do what you're doing, made a mistake.
01:44:11.000 Like, if that's the deal, like he didn't rule him over and it was a mistake, it wasn't intentional, let's just assume, right?
01:44:16.000 Let's just assume that's the case.
01:44:18.000 Would he not also be just as responsible?
01:44:20.000 Because George Floyd could, you could say, well, if you had just gotten in the car.
01:44:24.000 They had you there.
01:44:26.000 If you had just gotten in the car, the rest of this... Now, it's not like someone took his gun out and shot him.
01:44:32.000 That wouldn't have mattered at that point.
01:44:33.000 Well, that's different.
01:44:34.000 You couldn't say to George Floyd, you know, in retrospect, saying, hey, if you'd just gotten in the car, right?
01:44:39.000 But in this case, if that's all that they prove is that he made a mistake by not rolling him over, Don't you have to take it and expand it?
01:44:46.000 But wouldn't Chauvin then be dead, and Floyd would be on trial for manslaughter?
01:44:51.000 I mean, if you... If Chauvin was the one that died in this?
01:44:54.000 No, no, no, no, that's not what I was saying.
01:44:56.000 I think you were saying if Chauvin pulled out his gun and shot him.
01:44:58.000 Yeah, it's not like after he refused to get in the car, Chauvin pulled out his gun and shot him.
01:45:01.000 That would be obvious, like, that Chauvin had committed a crime.
01:45:03.000 But if all we can say is that he was trained poorly, was something that should never have been done, and he made a mistake towards the end, not rolling over... Let me ask you this, Dave.
01:45:10.000 When you watched all that in the car, and the pullover, do you think that any of that is excessive?
01:45:15.000 The force in the car?
01:45:16.000 Well, them getting him out of his car, which by the way, the irony is not lost on me that he can't get in a car because he's claustrophobic when he was driving in a compact.
01:45:24.000 Yeah.
01:45:26.000 It seems that it's a fear of being inside police cars, not claustrophobia.
01:45:30.000 It's police claustrophobia.
01:45:34.000 Let me ask you this.
01:45:36.000 Do you think that it was like that right there in the car was excessive?
01:45:40.000 No, uh, based on his history, the number of police surrounding him.
01:45:44.000 Now, if it was anybody else not based on his history, I would be a little surprised because that does seem like a lot of people on one just for an initial stop.
01:45:53.000 But, well, no, I think it was two people.
01:45:55.000 It was two people and then there were more.
01:45:56.000 Which is now the standard, right?
01:45:58.000 Like one has to be.
01:45:59.000 Yeah.
01:46:00.000 Uh, no, I don't.
01:46:01.000 Because I'm asking because you can't get him in the car.
01:46:04.000 I understand that they can't get him in the car.
01:46:05.000 I understand that they're fighting with him.
01:46:07.000 I don't think, I think it's excessive on both their parts.
01:46:10.000 Right.
01:46:10.000 Or not excessive at all if you're gonna, I guess to put it that way.
01:46:13.000 Right.
01:46:13.000 My, my thing is when he's on the ground.
01:46:17.000 Yeah.
01:46:17.000 And he's got his knee on his neck for nine and a half minutes.
01:46:20.000 That is excessive.
01:46:21.000 The rest of it, I don't think, I think they're just trying to do their best.
01:46:25.000 So let me ask you this.
01:46:25.000 You're a police officer.
01:46:26.000 This is, this is something, so let's walk through this and then I want to go back to his statements here.
01:46:30.000 And I'm just, I'm just playing No, no, I appreciate it, and don't take this personally, because I understand.
01:46:34.000 You have the same questions so many people out there do.
01:46:35.000 Yeah, I'm really just trying to figure out what happened.
01:46:37.000 Dave is hysterical, and he's very clear about the fact that he's more moderate, and I understand where he's lining up here.
01:46:42.000 I think that he should have been turned over as well.
01:46:43.000 However, let's walk this through.
01:46:45.000 You pull a man over.
01:46:46.000 Well, I think defunding police and rioting is stupid.
01:46:48.000 Yes, of course, of course you do.
01:46:49.000 That's a whole other thing.
01:46:50.000 You're what, when people say, I'm reasonable moderate, it doesn't exist anymore.
01:46:54.000 There's like, you and no one.
01:46:56.000 Morons.
01:46:56.000 But, okay, pull him over.
01:46:59.000 Guy is erratic.
01:47:00.000 Guy saying his mom is dead.
01:47:01.000 Guy's not putting his hands above his head.
01:47:03.000 Saying, don't shoot me.
01:47:04.000 You say, I won't shoot you.
01:47:05.000 Okay.
01:47:06.000 Now you try and take him over to the cop car.
01:47:08.000 He's screaming that I can't breathe.
01:47:10.000 Okay?
01:47:11.000 He refuses to get in the cop car.
01:47:13.000 At this point, you have multiple officers come in.
01:47:15.000 After you've made accommodations.
01:47:16.000 After you've made accommodations, you've rolled down the window.
01:47:18.000 He says, I can't breathe, I'm going to have a heart attack.
01:47:20.000 I won't get in the cop car, okay?
01:47:21.000 You can't, and at this point, keep in mind, the officers are not able to control him.
01:47:25.000 That's all the officers trying to get him into the car, kicking them off, pushing.
01:47:29.000 He's bigger and stronger.
01:47:29.000 They have no ability to control him.
01:47:31.000 He refuses, says, I will not get in the car.
01:47:34.000 Okay, so now he says, put me on the ground.
01:47:36.000 You have no choice because you can't deal with this guy's strength to get him in the cop car.
01:47:40.000 You saw that.
01:47:41.000 Okay, now you've gotten a man who's resisted arrest, who has a history of violent criminal behavior, who seems to be on drugs and erratic, on the ground, outside of a cop car, and you need to wait until backup comes up.
01:47:54.000 What do you need to do?
01:47:55.000 You need to control him on the ground.
01:47:56.000 How have you been taught to do it?
01:47:59.000 So what else does someone do?
01:48:02.000 The point is, oh, it's excessive.
01:48:04.000 Sure.
01:48:05.000 How long did it take for backup to arrive?
01:48:06.000 How long did it take for the paramedics to arrive?
01:48:08.000 That's how long you have to control someone on the ground.
01:48:11.000 My point is, it's a horrible control technique.
01:48:13.000 The liability should be with the police department teaching that right now.
01:48:17.000 And that's not racial profiling, it's bad physical training.
01:48:21.000 But this man is on the ground, you haven't been able to control him with handcuffs, in the car, multiple officers, you now have a waiting period.
01:48:28.000 How do you control him?
01:48:29.000 They used the only tools that were available to them to control him.
01:48:34.000 Well, and defunding the police and EMTs in a lot of those neighborhoods with, especially, that's a really hard job, too, being an EMT, and having to get there in all those different places and time.
01:48:44.000 Yeah, it does matter how long it took them to get there, and in those neighborhoods, we all know people have bled out because they can't get their services in time to even help anyone.
01:48:52.000 Right.
01:48:53.000 So there's a lot of things that, yeah, can come into play of why that's a tragedy.
01:48:57.000 I just don't know how anything, I don't know how differently it could have played out short of the training.
01:49:02.000 But you think that's the only training for that situation, I guess is my question.
01:49:06.000 It's what they're trained to do to control someone on the ground cuffed.
01:49:11.000 That's strange to me, though.
01:49:14.000 It's strange to me that they were teaching police officers with taekwondo for hand-to-hand combat for 30 years when they had a 50-pound utility belt.
01:49:21.000 They don't have very good hand-to-hand training at all.
01:49:25.000 We've had cops come into our schools regularly, even when I was a fill-in teacher, and they have no idea how to deal with someone physically.
01:49:31.000 They're good with guns, they're good with sticks, they're good with tasers.
01:49:35.000 We need reform of police training first.
01:49:38.000 Police training needs to be better first, and that requires funding.
01:49:42.000 Sorry, let's go and listen No, it requires you to take away the money.
01:49:45.000 Yes, first.
01:49:49.000 And you'll hear from a number of experts on the stand that putting a man in the prone position with handcuffs behind his back, somebody on his neck and back, pressing down on him for 9 minutes and 29 seconds is enough to take a life.
01:50:06.000 But that's not what took his life.
01:50:09.000 No.
01:50:12.000 Autopsy.
01:50:12.000 No evidence of strangulation or asphyxiation.
01:50:15.000 Lethal amounts of drugs.
01:50:16.000 So, could it?
01:50:17.000 Figuratively?
01:50:18.000 Maybe.
01:50:18.000 But we know what took his life.
01:50:19.000 It wasn't asphyxiation.
01:50:31.000 You get road rash from moving and scraping.
01:50:34.000 Trying to resist, yeah.
01:50:39.000 No, his head was turned to the side.
01:50:40.000 Right now, if you put me on a road, naked, and you lay Gerald, Dave, Korda Black Garrett, Tokunawa, and Tooman, everyone here, on top of me, I will not have road rash.
01:50:49.000 Sounds weird.
01:50:50.000 Yeah.
01:50:51.000 It's not possible.
01:50:51.000 It'll just press into you.
01:50:52.000 Road rash- I'll give you a rash.
01:50:54.000 It requires movement.
01:50:55.000 Friction.
01:50:55.000 Which requires what?
01:50:57.000 Some space.
01:50:58.000 To move.
01:50:58.000 Yeah.
01:50:59.000 What he just said, I think, was a lie, though.
01:51:01.000 He just said, you'll see nose imprints, where he pushed his face into the ground so that he could create room to breathe.
01:51:05.000 And I was like, actually, we have video of his head being to the side.
01:51:08.000 His head being to the side, and his head then coming up, off the ground, and moving the other side.
01:51:12.000 Yeah.
01:51:14.000 I don't know about a lawyer line, but... Jesus.
01:51:16.000 And this, this is important, too.
01:51:18.000 And the cops say this, if you can talk, you can breathe.
01:51:21.000 Yeah.
01:51:21.000 Well, that's true, but that's... And they're telling him to calm down.
01:51:24.000 They're telling him, like, hey, calm down, calm down, calm down.
01:51:27.000 That's like when you're wrestling with your brother, though, or your rock-hard uncle, and you're like, I can't breathe because you don't know the words to explain that I'm losing air.
01:51:34.000 I'm gonna get in trouble for that.
01:51:41.000 I don't know what you're talking about.
01:51:47.000 Well, it's just the verbalization of saying, I'm starting to feel as if I'm losing air is why I can't breathe, is just what you say.
01:51:56.000 It's almost a childlike response.
01:51:59.000 Or a dishonest response that people use reflexively to try and get out of being That's clearly what was going on here.
01:52:08.000 In other words, the reason I can't breathe.
01:52:10.000 If he was saying, all right, look, hey, I don't like cars.
01:52:13.000 Can you put me on the ground?
01:52:15.000 Okay.
01:52:15.000 All right.
01:52:15.000 I'm going to go on and then goes, Oh man, I can't breathe.
01:52:18.000 Can you ease up?
01:52:18.000 Very, very different from, all right, man, put your hands behind my back.
01:52:21.000 I can't breathe.
01:52:24.000 I can't breathe.
01:52:25.000 Hey, look, look at the back of the car, I can't, I gotta, I gotta, I
01:52:27.000 gotta, don't leave me, don't leave me, don't leave me, I can't breathe, look, look, put me on
01:52:30.000 the ground, put me on the ground, put me on the ground.
01:52:32.000 At no point did he stop from the moment he was pulled out of his car saying, I can't
01:52:36.000 breathe.
01:52:37.000 And that's why it was treated just like the other 27 times of I can't breathe when they
01:52:41.000 knew he could breathe.
01:52:42.000 Right.
01:52:43.000 And it just shows you that there are other possible explanations for what happened other
01:52:46.000 than a white guy who's a cop killed a black guy.
01:52:50.000 Which is what the media has been telling us.
01:52:52.000 Let's say he's guilty.
01:52:53.000 Let's say he's guilty for manslaughter.
01:52:55.000 I don't believe that he is.
01:52:56.000 You and I disagree on that because of the legal definition I don't think it meets it.
01:52:59.000 We also have to allow for the fact That everything being carried out up until this point was kosher, and let's just say we disagree in the last nine minutes, that it isn't due to racism.
01:53:10.000 That it's due to a guy who's fed up with someone high off his mind being a difficult dick and wanting to go home to his wife that night.
01:53:18.000 Maybe, or maybe he had a bad day and was like, alright, this is, alright, okay, now I'm just gonna keep you here until the paramedics get here.
01:53:24.000 It doesn't necessarily mean it has anything to do with race, even if you allow for the possibility of manslaughter.
01:53:31.000 And the pivot to, this is racial, by the way, other officers, there's one guy who's a minor, is it two who are minorities?
01:53:37.000 At least one.
01:53:38.000 One's black and one's Latino?
01:53:39.000 At least one.
01:53:40.000 Yeah.
01:53:41.000 Asian, we said there was an Asian option.
01:53:43.000 Well back then, that's when Asians didn't matter, but now they're the newest victim.
01:53:46.000 Now there's Black Lives Matter, Asian Lives Matter, which is careful, careful, almost getting to all lives matter.
01:53:51.000 Careful, he's up!
01:53:53.000 You add one more.
01:53:54.000 What are we, a white supremacist nation?
01:53:58.000 Oh, okay.
01:53:59.000 Oh yeah, those two guys are white for sure.
01:54:02.000 He's in some movies, right?
01:54:05.000 He was there when they dropped the bomb.
01:54:09.000 Totally a joke.
01:54:11.000 I gotta lighten the mood here.
01:54:17.000 He was calling out for his life.
01:54:19.000 He was struggling.
01:54:20.000 He was not passing out.
01:54:23.000 Now you're also going to hear From a forensic pathologist, Dr. Lindsey Thomas.
01:54:30.000 And what she does as a forensic pathologist, she studies body tissues on autopsy to try to determine the cause and manner of death.
01:54:39.000 She did this over a 35-year career as a forensic pathologist.
01:54:42.000 A woman doctor?
01:54:44.000 Over that period of time, she had done medical care.
01:54:46.000 Well, she's a PA.
01:54:49.000 That's good enough.
01:54:49.000 She's a nurse and we need something a little sexy.
01:54:55.000 We need something a little sexy.
01:54:58.000 OJ had the Kardashians and shit.
01:55:01.000 Oh boy.
01:55:04.000 She's semi-retired now and works as a consultant still in the field of pathology.
01:55:11.000 She was one of the persons who helped to train the current Hennepin County Medical Examiner, Dr. Andrew Baker, when he was just getting started out in forensic pathology.
01:55:22.000 Is that the examiner who said there was no proof of asphyxiation?
01:55:26.000 Andrew Baker?
01:55:26.000 Baker.
01:55:26.000 Yeah. Listen, Andrew Baker. So... Andrew Baker? Baker.
01:55:32.000 Baker. From Dr. Baker.
01:55:33.000 Maybe he should stick to making gay cakes.
01:55:37.000 When he lists manner of death for Jewish boys, homicide.
01:55:43.000 Now I want to explain to you that when he uses homicide, it's not the way that we use it here in the courtroom.
01:55:48.000 When the medical examiner says homicide, it simply means that the person died at the hands of another.
01:55:55.000 That's what that means.
01:55:57.000 And I will show you what list that's chosen from in just a minute and Dr. Thomas will come in and testify about that.
01:56:02.000 But it means that he died at the hands of another.
01:56:05.000 But you'll also learn Uh, that he listed a cause of death.
01:56:11.000 Cardiopulmonary arrest, complicating, law enforcement, subdual, restraint, and neck compression.
01:56:18.000 Now, I'm going to translate that into English, and you'll hear this from Dr. Thomas.
01:56:23.000 Wait, are they trying to say this is from a separate... Separate person.
01:56:26.000 A separate person, because this is not the Hennepin... They just mentioned... See, they just conflated it.
01:56:29.000 The Hennepin County autopsy did not show that.
01:56:32.000 They were saying that this person trained that person, so this is a third party.
01:56:37.000 Do you see what he just did there?
01:56:39.000 He tried to make it seem as though it's somehow connected to the county, whereas the county said no.
01:56:45.000 You have that collage right here.
01:56:46.000 There was fentanyl in his system, a lethal amount of fentanyl.
01:56:49.000 Was it methamphetamine or crack cocaine?
01:56:52.000 Methamphetamine.
01:56:53.000 19 nanograms per milliliter.
01:56:55.000 The autopsy revealed that no physical findings supported diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation or strain gland.
01:57:00.000 That's the official from the county.
01:57:03.000 These people doctor shopped and found someone else to.
01:57:06.000 Look at that.
01:57:07.000 What he's quoting from is a press release.
01:57:09.000 Yeah, he's quoting from there's a press release.
01:57:10.000 So they didn't actually examine the body.
01:57:13.000 I don't know.
01:57:13.000 I don't know if she examined the body post or what, but they're quoting from a press release trying to make it seem like, well, no, this is the official story.
01:57:20.000 Here's what they're saying.
01:57:21.000 She trained the Hennepin County Examiner, and she believes this, but the Hennepin County Examiner, the official examination, the autopsy report says... The person who actually saw the body.
01:57:30.000 The person who actually did the examination.
01:57:31.000 He was trained by a lady doctor and we're taking this all seriously?
01:57:36.000 This whole thing should be thrown out.
01:57:39.000 He brings up another one.
01:57:40.000 You're horrible.
01:57:41.000 I'm just... Come on, guys.
01:57:43.000 You're doing great.
01:57:44.000 All right, hold on a second.
01:57:45.000 So, how does a disease lead to death?
01:57:49.000 Car accident can be an accidental death.
01:57:52.000 Suicide.
01:57:53.000 Homicide, which is when they chose death at the hands of another.
01:57:57.000 Thank you.
01:57:57.000 Or undetermined.
01:57:58.000 That if you can't tell which it is or what it is, you indicate undetermined.
01:58:04.000 And here you learn that Dr. Andrew Baker And Dr. Thomas determined amongst these possible manners of death, it wasn't natural, not accidental, not suicide, not undetermined, it was homicide.
01:58:19.000 Death at the hands of another.
01:58:22.000 But that's not all that Dr. Thomas is going to tell you.
01:58:26.000 She's going to tell you something about the limitations.
01:58:29.000 What's the name of the coroner?
01:58:32.000 Or the county medical examiner?
01:58:34.000 Hennepin County?
01:58:35.000 Baker.
01:58:36.000 It was Andrew Baker.
01:58:37.000 Baker?
01:58:38.000 Actually, they're saying Baker and Thomas both came to this conclusion.
01:58:41.000 That's what he just said.
01:58:42.000 Yeah, but right now I'm reading this right here.
01:58:45.000 Hennepin County Medical Examiner, conducted May 26, 2020.
01:58:49.000 Full report is pending.
01:58:50.000 The autopsy revealed no physical findings that supported diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation.
01:58:56.000 Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions, including coronary artery disease and hypersensitive heart disease.
01:59:01.000 The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions, and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.
01:59:09.000 And then the next note right here that I have, and you can bring this up, I believe says, Andrew Baker said that if Mr. Floyd had been found dead in his home or anywhere else and there were no other concerning factors, he would conclude that it was an overdose death.
01:59:22.000 So, in other words, there are these contributing factors, and what they're having to say is that it wasn't an accident like slipping in the tub.
01:59:28.000 So, you have to categorize it in one of those five categories.
01:59:33.000 Right.
01:59:34.000 But like you said, homicide means death.
01:59:37.000 He's saying at the hands of another involving someone else.
01:59:41.000 Right, yeah.
01:59:41.000 Now, what that means is difficult for law.
01:59:45.000 They're not saying that legally he's responsible for that death.
01:59:47.000 They're just saying that in this case, but yeah.
01:59:50.000 Well, and if you weren't on fentanyl and you died because of that, that's one thing.
01:59:54.000 But yeah, there's so many factors that could be into play to create that bomb.
02:00:01.000 Put it this way.
02:00:02.000 Technically, if I was on a bunch of fentanyl and methamphetamine and I went to the bathroom, came out, and you went, boo, and I dropped dead from a heart attack, that would have to be medically listed as a homicide.
02:00:11.000 Doesn't mean you're guilty of murder or manslaughter.
02:00:13.000 And he's tried.
02:00:14.000 I have.
02:00:15.000 He pulls the old slip the fentanyl and methamphetamine in my Cheerios trick.
02:00:19.000 Wait a second!
02:00:22.000 Am I really superhuman, able to leave buildings in a single bound, or is this just Dave's old fentanyl and metham the Cheerios trick?
02:00:30.000 Yep, and for some reason we have a lot of ghost costumes here.
02:00:33.000 That is strange.
02:00:36.000 Now, by the way, just to confirm, just to make sure everybody's on the same page here, if Chauvin is kneeling on this guy's neck thinking, all right, finally I get to take my revenge on the black man, I'm not getting up until he's dead, we would all say Fryam, right?
02:00:46.000 Yes.
02:00:47.000 Of course.
02:00:47.000 Right?
02:00:48.000 Well, yeah, in a heartbeat.
02:00:50.000 So that's what the media is saying, that this is why this happened.
02:00:53.000 Right.
02:00:53.000 We're saying, well, hold on, there doesn't seem to be any evidence of that.
02:00:55.000 There still doesn't seem to be any evidence of that.
02:00:58.000 Yeah.
02:00:58.000 His wife was Miss Minnesota.
02:01:01.000 Good for him.
02:01:01.000 Really?
02:01:02.000 Yeah.
02:01:02.000 I forgot about that.
02:01:03.000 That's not exactly Miss Argentina or Venezuela.
02:01:05.000 No.
02:01:06.000 Not the same.
02:01:07.000 The talent pool's a little more shallow.
02:01:08.000 Basically, half of that talent pool is pulled from the 4-H club.
02:01:12.000 Well, that's true.
02:01:12.000 If it's right, I believe she's of Asian descent.
02:01:16.000 And Miss Minnesota.
02:01:18.000 Not to be confused with Miss Michigan.
02:01:20.000 My right hand, right, Craig?
02:01:22.000 Get it?
02:01:22.000 Yay, we've all dated her.
02:01:25.000 I don't know.
02:01:26.000 I'm a lefty.
02:01:27.000 I go reverse European.
02:01:28.000 I'm sorry.
02:01:29.000 No one deserved that.
02:01:33.000 and i just died for that you could but the cost of all i'm i'm a response to the way i think it's a little bit of
02:01:39.000 a problem we can tell the squad car
02:01:41.000 he starts trying to count one two up the manhandling some into the car with a handcuffs on
02:01:47.000 and you'll see i freaks out
02:01:50.000 uh... from that uh... you hear him say that can't breathe in the back of
02:01:54.000 the squad car and we will show you
02:01:56.000 and the back of the squad car with mr shop at one point has hands around this the floors net
02:02:01.000 one squad car and another.
02:02:04.000 His arm and elbow around his neck with this.
02:02:06.000 the Floyd's head here when the opponent out of the squad car put him on the ground in
02:02:10.000 a prone position.
02:02:11.000 That couldn't be less.
02:02:14.000 What are you going to grab when he's flopping like a fish in the car?
02:02:18.000 Do people understand the difference between a choke and a headlock?
02:02:20.000 Look, headlocks in high school wrestling, legal.
02:02:24.000 Chokes are not.
02:02:26.000 A headlock is how you grab someone.
02:02:27.000 It's like you grab your brother.
02:02:28.000 You're pulling someone out of the car because you can't get him into the car.
02:02:32.000 This guy's making a case against himself right now.
02:02:34.000 And also, Floyd's 6'4", 223 pounds.
02:02:36.000 Like, you're supposed to, like, grab him by the pinky?
02:02:38.000 Well, and that's how you save somebody who's drowning.
02:02:41.000 You put your arm around their neck and under their arm and pull them to safety.
02:02:44.000 Yes.
02:02:44.000 It's used... Did he say around his neck and under his arm?
02:02:47.000 He didn't say under his arm, just around his neck.
02:02:48.000 Yeah.
02:02:50.000 So you want him to shoot him?
02:02:55.000 They're armed!
02:02:56.000 Is that true?
02:02:58.000 What?
02:02:58.000 I didn't see a choke hold in the car.
02:03:02.000 He didn't even say choke hold.
02:03:03.000 He said he had his arm around his neck.
02:03:06.000 In other words, he grabbed him and pulled him out of the car.
02:03:08.000 But he's trying to conflate.
02:03:09.000 Look, he was already choking.
02:03:11.000 In other words, he was saying he couldn't breathe because of that, but we already showed you footage where George Floyd was saying, I can't breathe, when he was sitting!
02:03:19.000 George Floyd was in this exact position, sitting, saying, I can't breathe!
02:03:24.000 I can't breathe!
02:03:25.000 I can't breathe!
02:03:26.000 It has nothing to do with a headlock to place him, by request, on the ground, and it has nothing to do with the reason he was saying, I can't breathe, the control position on the ground.
02:03:38.000 He was saying it when there was no reason to believe it.
02:03:42.000 So anyone who's watched this video, the full tape, he just made a case against himself.
02:03:48.000 This attorney right now.
02:03:50.000 This is important to note.
02:03:51.000 He just made the case against himself saying, and you can see George Floyd saying, I can't breathe in the car.
02:03:56.000 So people who haven't seen this tape are going to go, wait a second.
02:03:59.000 I thought he only said I can't breathe when he was on the ground.
02:04:02.000 He was saying I can't breathe the entire time.
02:04:05.000 That's the point.
02:04:09.000 That boy lost his job when the COVID pandemic hit, so that's a whole interesting circle.
02:04:14.000 I thought he was going to show the tape of the armor on the neck.
02:04:20.000 I guess he'll just describe it.
02:04:21.000 Unless there's another body cam angle.
02:04:25.000 It looks like he's got an arm under... Can we see it?
02:04:28.000 He's got an arm under Floyd's arm, but there's nothing showing that he has a headlock.
02:04:32.000 Right, there's an underhook.
02:04:33.000 And then when he pulls him out, he doesn't have a headlock.
02:04:36.000 Let me see, so that's not a headlock.
02:04:38.000 Is this the Chauvin body camera, or which one is Chauvin?
02:04:41.000 I think Chauvin has his arm around him.
02:04:43.000 Yeah, this is the other guy, Lane, I think.
02:04:45.000 I think that was his point.
02:04:46.000 Okay, well, it's on his neck.
02:04:48.000 No, no, no.
02:04:49.000 No headlock.
02:04:49.000 He's not hurting him.
02:04:51.000 You're right, he's escorting him out.
02:04:52.000 It's not... I don't know.
02:04:54.000 I don't like this.
02:04:55.000 ...engaging in eminently dangerous behavior, putting the knee on the neck, the knee on the back, for 9 minutes and 29 seconds, without regard for Mr. Floyd's life.
02:05:04.000 We're going to ask that you find him guilty of murder in the second degree, murder in the third degree, and second degree.
02:05:10.000 So let me bring this up.
02:05:11.000 Again, the bar that needs to be passed for murder, I have these definitions written in front of me.
02:05:15.000 So murder third degree, if he wants to charge a murder third degree, defined whoever without intent to affect the death of any person causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind.
02:05:28.000 Yeah, we have the defense argument now.
02:05:29.000 for human life is guilty of murder in the third degree.
02:05:32.000 So he would have had to cause the death, which again is not from the toxicology report.
02:05:37.000 Do we have murder in the second degree?
02:05:40.000 Yeah.
02:05:41.000 Defense.
02:05:42.000 Yeah, we have the defense argument now.
02:05:44.000 I'm going to spend a lot of time talking about doubt.
02:05:47.000 But for purposes of my remarks this morning, I want to talk about reason and common sense
02:05:54.000 and how that applies to the evidence that you're about to see during the course of this
02:05:58.000 tribe.
02:06:00.000 Reason is an idea that wholly permeates our law, our legal system, and it forms the foundation.
02:06:07.000 And you will see and hear that repeatedly throughout the course of this trial.
02:06:10.000 He's funny on Big Bang Theory.
02:06:12.000 What would a reasonable police officer do?
02:06:16.000 What is a reasonable use of force?
02:06:19.000 What would a reasonable person do in his or her most important affairs?
02:06:24.000 What is a reasonable doubt?
02:06:27.000 As such, reason dictates and necessitates how the evidence must be looked at and analyzed in every single case.
02:06:37.000 And common sense is exactly that.
02:06:39.000 It's common sense.
02:06:41.000 Common sense tells you that there are always two sides to a story.
02:06:45.000 Common sense tells us that we need to examine the totality of circumstances to determine the meaning of them.
02:06:48.000 Yeah, suffice.
02:06:50.000 COVID can't go over seven feet.
02:06:53.000 This whole thing is just unreal.
02:06:55.000 Every bit of this courtroom and everything happening.
02:06:58.000 In other words, common sense is the application of sound judgment based upon a reason.
02:07:05.000 Oh, it really is, isn't it?
02:07:07.000 And that's what this case is ultimately about.
02:07:10.000 It's about the evidence in this case.
02:07:13.000 The evidence that you will see in this case during this trial.
02:07:18.000 It is, I agree with counsel for the state.
02:07:20.000 It is nothing more than that.
02:07:20.000 Rosebud.
02:07:22.000 There is no political or social cause in this courtroom.
02:07:29.000 But the evidence is far greater than 9 minutes and 29 seconds.
02:07:35.000 In this case, you will learn that the evidence has been collected broadly and expansively.
02:07:44.000 Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension employed nearly 50 case agents, analysts, and technicians to investigate this case.
02:07:54.000 Were all the other cops fired?
02:07:55.000 of investigation included at least 28 additional agents in their investigation.
02:07:55.000 Okay.
02:08:00.000 Were all the other cops fired?
02:08:02.000 These agents combined.
02:08:04.000 I know that two of them were.
02:08:06.000 I don't know that all, the last ones to come on the scene maybe not, but I think you're
02:08:09.000 right.
02:08:10.000 The two that were with him.
02:08:11.000 Okay, I knew something happened, but I wasn't sure.
02:08:14.000 Including the officers who responded to the scene after Mr.
02:08:19.000 Floyd was brought to the hospital.
02:08:22.000 They interviewed members of the Minneapolis Police Department command staff.
02:08:26.000 Bye!
02:08:27.000 They interviewed officers who oversee training and policy making decisions within the Minneapolis Police Department.
02:08:35.000 They have interviewed nearly 200 civilian witnesses in this case.
02:08:41.000 Some of these witnesses saw the entire incident.
02:08:45.000 Some who saw a portion of the incident.
02:08:48.000 Many who saw nothing.
02:08:51.000 And some who had some piece of information to give to the officers.
02:08:55.000 Can you stop stepping too and away from the microphone like I am Sam?
02:08:55.000 And others who had not.
02:08:59.000 These agents interviewed the numerous medical personnel who interviewed them.
02:09:02.000 He's like Joe Biden.
02:09:03.000 I think Chauvin needs to go home right now!
02:09:07.000 You never go full retard.
02:09:09.000 By the way, it looks like all the cops were fired.
02:09:11.000 All of them were fired?
02:09:12.000 Yeah.
02:09:13.000 Okay.
02:09:14.000 Four, right?
02:09:15.000 Four.
02:09:15.000 I knew that two were, and then I... Six total ended up there, so I think the last two were fine.
02:09:19.000 I believe this case called the Bates Stamp Number.
02:09:23.000 The bait stamp system is a way for lawyers to keep track of the case.
02:09:29.000 To make sure that we are working from the same set of documents, the same set of evidence.
02:09:35.000 To preserve the integrity of the investigation.
02:09:39.000 You will learn that we are approaching 50,000 bait stamped items.
02:09:45.000 So this case is clearly more than about 9 minutes and 29 seconds.
02:09:49.000 Go ahead, go pee.
02:09:51.000 Go urinate, Dave, because I do too.
02:09:53.000 Also, during jury selection, the witness of this case neared 400 people.
02:10:00.000 Make it quick or you'll need glasses.
02:10:01.000 So how do we begin to analyze and organize this evidence?
02:10:05.000 I suggest that you let common sense and reason guide you.
02:10:11.000 I propose that every witness you will hear from and every piece of evidence that you
02:10:15.000 will see or hear during this trial can be assigned to one of four basic locations.
02:10:21.000 I Cup foods, Mercedes-Benz,
02:10:27.000 Squad 320 and Hennepin County Medical School.
02:10:30.000 So here's the challenge, too, though, that he's making.
02:10:32.000 The challenge with his case.
02:10:34.000 The first man came out, and even though it wasn't particularly factually based, it was entirely an appeal to emotion.
02:10:39.000 Oh, yeah.
02:10:40.000 And this guy's saying, I'm just going with the evidence.
02:10:43.000 He's got to do both.
02:10:44.000 Yeah.
02:10:45.000 He's got to do both.
02:10:46.000 So far, I'm picking Vinny.
02:10:48.000 I'm going with this guy.
02:10:50.000 Or Mr. Floyd's ex-girlfriend, Shawanda Hill.
02:10:53.000 And he offered her a ride.
02:10:57.000 You will hear from Chris Martin, who is the store clerk at Cup Foods.
02:11:02.000 Mr. Martin observed Mr. Floyd.
02:11:04.000 He watched his body language.
02:11:08.000 He interacted with Mr. Floyd in this moment.
02:11:11.000 Mr. Martin informed the media that Mr. Floyd was under the influence of something.
02:11:17.000 You will see the actual video from inside Cup Foods.
02:11:23.000 Mr. Floyd did use a counterfeit $20 bill to purchase a pack of cigarettes.
02:11:28.000 Mr. Martin realized this, and first, along with another one of his co-workers, named Nabil Walter, went outside to the car where Mr. Floyd, Mr. Hall, and Miss Hill were sitting.
02:11:41.000 Mr. Martin asked Mr. Floyd to come in and either buy the cigarettes, exchange, or return the cigarettes.
02:11:49.000 And you will hear, from Mr. Martin, that Mr. Hall and Mr. Floyd refused.
02:11:56.000 You will hear that a short time later.
02:11:57.000 Mr. Martin went back to the car a second time.
02:12:02.000 He went back to ask them again, please come inside, give us the money, or return the cigarettes.
02:12:10.000 And that second time, again, Mr. Floyd refused.
02:12:14.000 Now, I wasn't fully aware of that, that interaction, which is kind of important, because that's George Floyd being a dick to a local member of the community who just doesn't want to be fleeced for a pack of cigarettes.
02:12:27.000 Does it mean he deserved...?
02:12:28.000 No, of course not.
02:12:29.000 But again, people try and paint it as, oh, this is a guy who had a prior criminal history a long time ago, but like a Tukey Williams thing.
02:12:35.000 Now it's really, look, when people talk about, we need to serve and protect our own community, George Floyd was ripping off shop owners, and the shop owner was giving him an out, saying, look, please, hey, look, man, this is fake.
02:12:46.000 Give me, give me the cigarettes back or pay for it.
02:12:46.000 Yeah.
02:12:49.000 Twice, two times.
02:12:50.000 He can call the police immediately.
02:12:51.000 Yeah.
02:12:52.000 He was giving him a chance.
02:12:54.000 Southbound in the northbound lane of Chicago Avenue, and were directed by store employees immediately to the second location, the Mercedes Benz.
02:13:05.000 During this trial, you will hear evidence of what happened in the Mercedes-Benz in the 20 to 30 minutes prior to the police arriving.
02:13:14.000 You will hear from Mr. Floyd's friends, Shawanda Hill and Maurice Hall.
02:13:22.000 This will include evidence that while they were in the car, Mr. Floyd consumed what were thought to be two Percocet pills.
02:13:31.000 Mr. Floyd's friends will explain that Mr. Floyd fell asleep in the car and that they couldn't wake him up.
02:13:38.000 I forgot the toxicology report had oxycodone as well, right?
02:13:38.000 Oh, that's right.
02:13:45.000 It's just sort of you take the, you know, you take, you take the, the, the marquee drug, which is fentanyl, but oxycodone for most is pretty potent.
02:13:53.000 Yeah.
02:13:54.000 To come and pick her up because it couldn't keep Mr. Floyd awake.
02:14:00.000 At 8.09 p.m., Officers Lane and King approached the vehicle, and Officer Lane approached the driver's side of the vehicle, and Officer King approached the passenger side.
02:14:12.000 You missed it.
02:14:14.000 So not only was it a counterfeit 20, I didn't, we didn't know this because I think some of this is new evidence.
02:14:19.000 Not only was it a counterfeit 20, but the guy who gave them the pack of cigarettes for a counterfeit 20 knew it and asked them kindly to, hey, please give me back my cigarettes or pay with real money.
02:14:30.000 George Floyd blew him off, went to his car.
02:14:32.000 The shopkeeper from Cup Foods went back to him and said, please just give me back the cigarettes.
02:14:36.000 Or pay me for the cigarettes.
02:14:38.000 So George Floyd knew that it was counterfeit and he had two outs from the shopkeeper before the police were notified.
02:14:43.000 So, Blue in Counterfeit 20, you really do have cameras in your bathroom.
02:14:50.000 I'm sorry, I'll be over here.
02:14:56.000 I don't think he's a counterfeiter guy, though.
02:14:56.000 I didn't know that, though.
02:14:59.000 No, I don't think he is, but it just shows complete disregard for members of the community, where it's like, please man, just give me back my cigarettes, or give me real money, I have to make a living.
02:15:09.000 Two times.
02:15:09.000 And that's why the guy got pissed.
02:15:12.000 Well, the guy who gets his, I think he notified the police after giving him two times trying to not bring the cops into it.
02:15:18.000 He responds to the scene to assist officers King and Lane and he helps in detaining the passengers.
02:15:26.000 You will see officer Chang's body-worn camera and you will hear his interactions.
02:15:32.000 Is Chang the Asian guy?
02:15:34.000 That's a Mortal Kombat 3 character.
02:15:34.000 No.
02:15:36.000 Johnny Chang.
02:15:36.000 Was it?
02:15:36.000 I thought so.
02:15:37.000 What you will learn is that when an officer responds to what is sometimes a mortal combat
02:15:41.000 three character, was it?
02:15:42.000 I thought so.
02:15:43.000 Showed up often.
02:15:44.000 Johnny Chang, greater and more serious event.
02:15:51.000 You will see surveillance videos near squad three.
02:15:55.000 I'm guessing.
02:15:55.000 from a local business called the Dragon Walk that captured the actions and reactions of
02:16:02.000 everyone present at that location.
02:16:04.000 Dragon Walk.
02:16:05.000 That's an Ethiopian restaurant?
02:16:07.000 I'm guessing.
02:16:08.000 Further concealment of controlled substances.
02:16:12.000 During the course of the investigation, two search warrants were executed on the Mercedes
02:16:17.000 The first on May 27th of 2020.
02:16:19.000 The second, several months later, on December 9th of 2020.
02:16:26.000 Now, see, that is important, folks, though.
02:16:28.000 The defense said you will see and hear everything that these officers and Mr. Floyd said to each other.
02:16:34.000 That's important.
02:16:35.000 It's very different from the prosecution, who said, look at this clip, look at this clip.
02:16:39.000 We're going to show you this clip.
02:16:40.000 You're going to hear from this person who isn't officially with the county, but who trained them and who says that it could have maybe been this.
02:16:46.000 Right now, this guy said, full and complete transparency.
02:16:49.000 Now, that's not proof in and of itself, but I will say this.
02:16:52.000 When you have two parties in a disagreement, and one is opting for complete and total transparency, and one is fighting against that, that is usually a red flag.
02:17:03.000 When there is one person involved with this conflict, altercation, in this case, two lawyers.
02:17:10.000 Yeah, if you're willing to show every word being said, I mean, it is definitely worth listening to.
02:17:15.000 I don't know.
02:17:16.000 away you should take note.
02:17:17.000 The evidence will show that as officers King and Lane escorted Mr. Floyd to their squad
02:17:22.000 car.
02:17:23.000 Yeah, if you're willing to show every word being said, I mean it is definitely worth
02:17:27.000 listening to.
02:17:29.000 And he was encouraging Mr. Floyd to cooperate with the officers.
02:17:32.000 I mean you have to.
02:17:33.000 Speaking of car, you can't win.
02:17:37.000 The evidence will show that Mr. Floyd and the officers began to struggle as they attempted
02:17:43.000 to get him in the squad car.
02:17:46.000 And you will learn that Officers Derek Chauvin and his partner Tu Tao arrived to assist Officers King and Lane at 8.16.48.
02:17:55.000 That's racist, man.
02:17:59.000 Upon their arrival, the first thing that Officer Chauvin sees is Officers King and Lane struggling with Mr. Floyd.
02:18:09.000 You know what's super ironic?
02:18:12.000 King's first name, Rodney.
02:18:15.000 I was gonna say, it's like, all these cops, were they all named after the Mr. Rogers, like at the Mr. Rogers convention?
02:18:22.000 It's like, first was King Tuesday to the scene, followed by Lady Lane.
02:18:28.000 Prince Wednesday.
02:18:29.000 Prince Wednesday!
02:18:30.000 Wasn't it King Tuesday and Prince Wednesday?
02:18:32.000 I think so.
02:18:33.000 And then the Ron Paul Muppet looking Lady Lane?
02:18:36.000 Oh, Lady Lane, yeah.
02:18:38.000 Weighs 223 pounds.
02:18:42.000 You will learn that because of this intersection at 38th and Chicago is considered a high crime area.
02:18:48.000 King Friday.
02:18:49.000 King Friday, yeah.
02:18:50.000 It's called the Milestone Video System.
02:18:51.000 Was it King Friday?
02:18:51.000 Yeah.
02:18:52.000 It's a camera that sits high atop a pole and can surveil the entire intersection.
02:18:58.000 Tuesday wasn't really what mattered.
02:18:59.000 His name was King.
02:18:59.000 Either way, it fit worse.
02:19:01.000 That's true.
02:19:02.000 There's a reason Okinawans were rated worse sense of humor on the planet.
02:19:06.000 That's something, isn't it?
02:19:07.000 Boy, do they carry a grudge.
02:19:10.000 They do.
02:19:11.000 So much so that it catches the attention of the 9-1-1 dispatcher, Jenna Scurry.
02:19:16.000 This was not an easy struggle.
02:19:22.000 It makes me a little uneasy that his partner there is writing down notes like he's surprised.
02:19:36.000 Yeah.
02:19:37.000 Oh, we're talking about that?
02:19:38.000 Is that what I'm here for?
02:19:40.000 I think that's Chauvin.
02:19:42.000 I was about to say, I think that's Officer Chauvin.
02:19:44.000 Oh, is it?
02:19:44.000 Sorry, keep in mind I'm looking at a small screen.
02:19:47.000 It looks like he's checking stuff off.
02:19:50.000 Okay.
02:19:51.000 He's just penning off how many stitches he's got in his anus so far.
02:19:56.000 Guys, I need a four-letter word for screwed.
02:19:58.000 Yeah, anybody?
02:19:59.000 He's just playing hangman.
02:20:01.000 What did you just think of that you wouldn't say?
02:20:03.000 What?
02:20:03.000 and officer lane was at the feet and you will see and hear them continue to
02:20:11.000 struggle with mr. Floyd as he's what did you just think of that you wouldn't say
02:20:15.000 what you just thought of something that you didn't want to say oh I said a few
02:20:19.000 I thought of a few things I'll just say I thought of a word that would be funny that he was using to play hangman with.
02:20:29.000 That's your own interpretation.
02:20:32.000 Oh, start with a C, not that word.
02:20:34.000 Oh, okay.
02:20:35.000 I just raised my pen, that sounded... No, that's not the joke.
02:20:41.000 But that is also funny.
02:20:45.000 Let's get back up.
02:20:47.000 There's a movie with Matt Damon and Greg Kinnear where he's like, what's up?
02:20:52.000 Oh, the twins?
02:20:53.000 Yeah, it's supposed to be covered.
02:20:54.000 Stuck on you.
02:20:55.000 I love how you know the name of the movie but you didn't want to reference it because you're slightly ashamed.
02:20:59.000 I made a poster of me and you, well, my friend Steve did, as the twins that I put up the other day.
02:21:04.000 I'm not ashamed.
02:21:05.000 Well, I can't see it because I sneak it on Twitter.
02:21:07.000 Oh, I know.
02:21:09.000 But it's, he's like, like something about like, what would a woman be agitated for his curse?
02:21:16.000 And he's like, Oh, I was way off.
02:21:21.000 That's what I thought with Hangman and him playing Scrabble.
02:21:24.000 And then I made a joke that just... Well, could have gone the other way.
02:21:28.000 It could have.
02:21:29.000 Well, you know what, either way, there'll be a write up.
02:21:29.000 Yeah.
02:21:31.000 Well, yeah, we can look forward to what's that stupid magazine that takes everything out of context and humor out of life?
02:21:41.000 We don't need to use their name.
02:21:45.000 Yeah, I agree.
02:21:46.000 It's Out Magazine.
02:21:48.000 Is it Out Magazine?
02:21:49.000 It's what we have stacks of in the bathroom?
02:21:56.000 And this will ultimately become one of the decisions that you have to make.
02:22:02.000 To answer these questions, the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, the evidence will show that the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension investigated the Minneapolis Police Department's training and policies.
02:22:14.000 You will learn about things such as the authorized use of force.
02:22:18.000 Proportionality of force, excited delirium, defensive tactics including prone handcuffing, neck restraints, maximal restraint technique, the swarm technique.
02:22:31.000 You will learn about rapidly evolving situations and the Minneapolis Police Department's decision-making model.
02:22:38.000 You will learn about crowd control, medical intervention, de-escalation, procedural justice, crisis intervention, and the human factors of force.
02:22:48.000 Right now someone in the jury is going, ugh, pat me with a spoon.
02:22:52.000 This is the worst.
02:22:54.000 Go ahead and start the PowerPoint.
02:22:54.000 Ugh.
02:22:56.000 And they took away my sidekick.
02:23:00.000 Hey, don't forget, I think we have an update from Thomas Finnegan.
02:23:03.000 Oh, yeah, really quick.
02:23:04.000 Oh, you know what?
02:23:04.000 Is he there still?
02:23:05.000 Yeah, I think he's still there.
02:23:06.000 Okay, so hold on.
02:23:07.000 Before we continue with this, because we don't know how much longer it'll be, I'm getting word, yeah, that Thomas Finnegan is still in the George Floyd autonomous zone in Minneapolis on the ground.
02:23:17.000 Let's check in with Thomas Finnegan.
02:23:28.000 Thomas, what's going on there in the Autonomous Zone?
02:23:33.000 Thomas?
02:23:33.000 Oh no.
02:23:34.000 You're not gonna lie! I don't know, no.
02:23:37.000 Oh! Oh!
02:23:39.000 He'll be fine.
02:23:52.000 Let's go back to the guy behind the...
02:23:53.000 We can only hope.
02:23:54.000 Let's go back to the guy behind the plexiglass.
02:23:56.000 How hilarious would it be if the bailiff just ran up and cross-checked him?
02:24:05.000 BOOM!
02:24:06.000 Then the bailiff has to stand in there for two minutes?
02:24:10.000 Lookin' all sad and pathetic?
02:24:12.000 Yeah.
02:24:13.000 Alright, since you guys both did it, I really have to pee.
02:24:17.000 Go ahead!
02:24:20.000 I'm coming out.
02:24:23.000 Don't come out.
02:24:23.000 I want the world to know.
02:24:25.000 What?
02:24:26.000 Hey Dave, I have a question for you.
02:24:28.000 Yes sir?
02:24:28.000 Who is the funny guy on Big Bang Theory?
02:24:31.000 None.
02:24:32.000 None of them.
02:24:33.000 I just thought he looked a bit like Johnny Galecki.
02:24:36.000 Who was, I think that's how you say it, who was, you might know him as the third Russ in the Vacation series.
02:24:44.000 Oh, okay.
02:24:45.000 Yeah.
02:24:46.000 But no, that is a terrible show.
02:24:48.000 I don't understand, oh no, I do understand why it aired for so long.
02:24:52.000 It's because people like crap.
02:24:54.000 Yeah.
02:24:55.000 And people are dumb.
02:24:56.000 We do, and we are.
02:24:57.000 I really hate that show.
02:24:59.000 It's the worst.
02:25:00.000 It should be on trial right now.
02:25:00.000 It is the worst.
02:25:02.000 We should be watching the trial of everybody involved.
02:25:05.000 The trial of Chuck Lorre for creating the television that he has.
02:25:11.000 Except my friend Billy's show.
02:25:14.000 And they did what they refer to as a mode and go because of the crowd.
02:25:19.000 They came, they picked up Mr. Rather than attempting to resuscitate him or treat him on the scene,
02:25:25.000 they loaded him into the ambulance and they drove to a location several blocks away
02:25:30.000 to begin their resuscitative efforts. And you will hear- Do you think he dyes the sole patch of his beard?
02:25:37.000 I feel like he does, right?
02:25:41.000 He's like, this is a little Wolfman Jackal.
02:25:43.000 Pretty cool guy.
02:25:43.000 His tie is like, made of a couch.
02:25:45.000 Like I would have worn to my grandmother's funeral in the 90s.
02:25:48.000 In fact, my grandmother did wear that to her funeral.
02:25:52.000 That's so sad.
02:25:53.000 made of a couch. Like I would have worn to my grandmother's funeral in the 90s.
02:26:00.000 In fact my grandmother did wear that to her funeral. Yes, she did. That's so sad. My
02:26:05.000 grandfather did around his neck. Well it wasn't his funeral, it was just how they found him.
02:26:12.000 What?
02:26:13.000 What's dark?
02:26:15.000 Dark?
02:26:16.000 Is that woman wearing sandals?
02:26:18.000 Like, uh, Birkenstocks of sorts?
02:26:20.000 Like, leopard print?
02:26:23.000 She's got some thick ankles.
02:26:23.000 Let's listen to this part.
02:26:24.000 I'm going to share several interviews that Dr. Baker had with law enforcement.
02:26:28.000 Guilty of taking angels.
02:26:29.000 Where he discusses the cause and manner of death and what that actually means according
02:26:35.000 to what he saw present in Mr. Floyd's body.
02:26:38.000 This is important right here.
02:26:39.000 And some of this evidence is extremely important.
02:26:43.000 To the final determination of Mr. Floyd's cause of death.
02:26:46.000 Medical findings include things such as the blood gas test that was taken at HCMC that revealed Mr. Floyd had an exceptionally high level of caffeine dioxide.
02:26:59.000 I think there's something oh hey Steve you're gonna want to listen to this he's talking cause of death from the
02:27:02.000 original Tell tale signs of asphyxiation there were no bruises to mr..
02:27:10.000 Floyd's neck No telltale signs of asphyxiation.
02:27:12.000 Either on his skin or after peeling his skin back to the muscles beneath.
02:27:19.000 There was no petechial hemorrhaging.
02:27:22.000 There was no evidence that Mr. Floyd's airflow was restricted and he did not determine to be a positional or mechanical asphyxia death.
02:27:35.000 At the time Mr. Floyd was in the hospital, Ephemeral blood draw was taken.
02:27:41.000 That blood draw was analyzed by a lab.
02:27:44.000 The results of Mr. Floyd's toxicology screen revealed the presence of fentanyl and methamphetamine for other drugs.
02:27:49.000 And it will be important to know the difference between fentanyl and methamphetamine.
02:27:52.000 I'm not a doctor.
02:27:53.000 There was so much blood they were concerned.
02:27:55.000 Turns out it was from my femur.
02:27:57.000 Cocaine off the blood.
02:27:59.000 Is that where your femoral artery goes through your leg?
02:28:02.000 I don't know. I'm not a doctor.
02:28:04.000 You're not?
02:28:06.000 What's that PhD you showed me before the physical you gave me?
02:28:10.000 It felt good for me too, though.
02:28:11.000 magazine staff. It felt good for me too though. It's not a salt if you like it.
02:28:28.000 So this yeah this is important because they said someone who trained Dr. Baker
02:28:33.000 he's talking about the actual report.
02:28:35.000 And this will ultimately be another significant battle in this trial.
02:28:41.000 What was Mr. Floyd's actual cause of death?
02:28:45.000 The evidence will show that Mr. Floyd died of a cardiac arrhythmia that occurred as a result of hypertension, his coronary disease, the ingestion of methamphetamine and fentanyl, and the adrenaline flowing through his body.
02:29:02.000 All of which acted to further... Well, and they said he took several Percocet just right before that.
02:29:09.000 At the conclusion of this evidence, you will be instructed as to the law, the elements of the offense, and the court will give you detailed instructions on what you must find to convict Mr. Chauvin of these charges.
02:29:21.000 But when you review the actual evidence, and when you hear the law and apply reason and common sense, there will only be one just vote, and that is to find Mr. Chauvin not guilty.
02:29:36.000 You know what's weird is that for many people in the country, that's the first time they're hearing any of that.
02:29:39.000 Oh yeah, of course.
02:29:40.000 What do you say?
02:29:41.000 They're going to recess.
02:29:42.000 He's giving himself an out.
02:29:43.000 11-15.
02:29:43.000 I got a lot backed up.
02:29:44.000 Do I have to make a big poop?
02:29:44.000 They're going to recess.
02:29:45.000 I want you to keep in mind that these breaks we try and keep as much as we can to time,
02:29:49.000 but if bathroom needs and other needs are important, we can expand it a little bit.
02:29:55.000 He's giving himself an hour.
02:29:56.000 11-15.
02:29:57.000 I got a lot backed up.
02:29:58.000 Do I have to make a big poop?
02:30:00.000 Yes.
02:30:01.000 Sometimes it takes a little while.
02:30:03.000 I have to drop some kids off at the pool.
02:30:06.000 Very thorough with my paperwork.
02:30:11.000 Yeah, 15 minute recess.
02:30:12.000 15 minutes, then what are they going to do after this?
02:30:14.000 There's opening statements, then what are they going to do?
02:30:16.000 They're going to probably jump into it.
02:30:17.000 Really?
02:30:17.000 Yeah.
02:30:17.000 How long do we have to do this show today?
02:30:19.000 I don't think we should cover all of it because it's going to be a long trial.
02:30:22.000 Right.
02:30:22.000 It's going to be long.
02:30:23.000 You guys let us know.
02:30:24.000 Leave in the comments section if you want us to.
02:30:25.000 No, no.
02:30:25.000 Don't let us know.
02:30:26.000 No, no.
02:30:26.000 I'm just saying, not just for today, but do people want... because this is going to go on for a while.
02:30:29.000 Shouldn't we be covering this every day?
02:30:31.000 I think it's good to check in on this every day because a lot of people are going to be watching this.
02:30:36.000 But I think it was incredibly important for him to lay it out the way he just did.
02:30:39.000 He's like, guys, they had their report and they weren't satisfied with it.
02:30:43.000 And don't think, oh, it's just people wanting this.
02:30:46.000 Just remember what was going on.
02:30:48.000 Protests were erupting all over the place in that city.
02:30:52.000 They were threatening to burn things down.
02:30:54.000 They were threatening to burn down City Hall, right, if they didn't come out with this.
02:30:57.000 And so immediately they're like, ah crap, that report says it wasn't asphyxiation, it was probably some kind of an overdose, and now we've got to put something else out there.
02:31:05.000 Otherwise this crowd is going to get crazy.
02:31:07.000 Remember the political implications of what was going on and who stepped in.
02:31:12.000 Well, for me, the point that really bothers me, and look, we'll talk more about Chauvin and George Floyd, and I think we all, look, this is sad.
02:31:21.000 This is all very sad.
02:31:22.000 However, the point that really sticks out to me is when the left right now go, we've
02:31:26.000 got to fix these problems in America where now it's systemically racist everywhere.
02:31:29.000 So the narrative is, of course, cops are racist.
02:31:31.000 Disregard the fact that there are more black officers than there are percentage of the
02:31:35.000 population, certainly minority officers when you include Latino and black officers because
02:31:39.000 they want to serve.
02:31:40.000 Let's disregard that.
02:31:41.000 They go, we need to fix this right now and we need to help those in the black community.
02:31:46.000 OK.
02:31:47.000 This is doing the all of this together in totality is doing the exact opposite of that.
02:31:51.000 That's what makes me so sad.
02:31:53.000 Do you know what's harming the black community?
02:31:55.000 It's not officers shooting unarmed black men, like we've said.
02:31:58.000 It's 9 in the year 2019 versus 19 white guys.
02:32:02.000 And they're over 18 times more likely, police officers, to be shot by black men than to shoot a black man.
02:32:06.000 Let's be really, really clear.
02:32:08.000 Black men in this community are 37 times more likely to commit violent crime, according to an Obama report, right?
02:32:14.000 37 times more likely to commit violent crime, okay?
02:32:17.000 Why?
02:32:18.000 Well, we just skimmed over why.
02:32:21.000 We always think that in these areas, you know, people talk about how they're close-knit in urban communities and in black areas, and I think to a degree that's probably more true than white communities because there isn't necessarily a kinship with white people.
02:32:32.000 You can be white Irish, you can be white Italian, you can be white Norwegian, German, you know, I'm a mutt, French, English, Irish, Scottish, German.
02:32:41.000 But if we're talking about how closely knit those communities are, why do we think that black men commit crimes at 37 times the violent crimes on the national average?
02:32:49.000 Well, we just saw two examples right there in real time, which are not nearly as severe as George Floyd is jamming a pistol into the gut of a lady while her toddler watches, but giving a counterfeit bill to someone in his community, a shopkeeper.
02:33:06.000 I don't know if the shopkeeper is black, Asian, but lives in that community and was given
02:33:12.000 two opportunities to do the right thing and didn't care to.
02:33:17.000 That guy has a family to feed.
02:33:19.000 That guy is actually supporting his community by running a business.
02:33:22.000 And by the way, trying to help his community by knowing that someone who's likely high
02:33:25.000 as a kite who gave him a counterfeit bill, which of course takes money out of his pocket,
02:33:29.000 still not wanting to alert the authorities two times saying, hey, Mr. Floyd, this is
02:33:35.000 not a real bill.
02:33:36.000 Please.
02:33:37.000 And he gave him two options.
02:33:38.000 Either give me money for the cigarettes or please just give the cigarettes back.
02:33:41.000 Please.
02:33:42.000 George Floyd blew him off, went back to his car.
02:33:44.000 He goes out to the car before he calls the cops.
02:33:46.000 Look.
02:33:46.000 Please, man.
02:33:47.000 Think of it this way.
02:33:48.000 I've got kids to feed, okay?
02:33:50.000 Look, please, just, I can't.
02:33:51.000 This is the fifth time this week.
02:33:53.000 The guy's probably been held up.
02:33:54.000 Please, just look.
02:33:55.000 Give me the cigarettes back or pay me the money.
02:33:58.000 George Floyd didn't give a shit.
02:34:00.000 This happened twice before he then popped Percocet in addition to his fentanyl and his methamphetamine and lying to the cops.
02:34:08.000 How many other crimes do you think he committed that day?
02:34:12.000 That week?
02:34:13.000 The issue right now, if we want to talk about improving the quality of life for those in the black community, is we need to talk about these behavioral patterns and the family unit.
02:34:23.000 Because someone like that Does not deserve to die.
02:34:26.000 But someone like that ONLY causes harm when they go through their life selfishly, unabashedly so.
02:34:33.000 And that's not common.
02:34:35.000 That shouldn't be common.
02:34:36.000 That shouldn't be a part of your community.
02:34:38.000 You want more people in your community like the shopkeeper, and you want more people in your community who join the police force than people like George Floyd.
02:34:46.000 Rest assured, when I say this, this is NOT saying that George Floyd deserved to die, and certainly not that day.
02:34:52.000 We're going to hear the evidence on that case.
02:34:54.000 But George Floyd, the way he acted, the way we know that he's acted throughout his life, is far more of a problem for these kinds of communities than policing.
02:35:05.000 George Floyd is a problem.
02:35:07.000 George Floyd is a problem.
02:35:10.000 Mugging a woman with her children.
02:35:11.000 We have a rap sheet a mile long.
02:35:13.000 Even just to the selfish day-to-day, having no empathy for a shopkeeper who has to feed his kids.
02:35:19.000 Given two opportunities to not steal.
02:35:22.000 I wasn't given that opportunity.
02:35:23.000 I snuck into a movie.
02:35:24.000 They kicked me out.
02:35:26.000 And that was because I didn't want to pay for a Michael Moore film.
02:35:28.000 So I paid for another one.
02:35:28.000 I snuck into Michael Moore.
02:35:29.000 I was kicked out immediately!
02:35:33.000 It's a principle.
02:35:33.000 That's fair.
02:35:35.000 How many grace crimes does one get before you say, you know what?
02:35:40.000 Okay.
02:35:41.000 Maybe we have a problem here in this community that people feel so fine taking.
02:35:44.000 We talk about Wall Street bankers and we talk about capitalists and corporatists and people taking advantage of the middle class and they don't care.
02:35:52.000 And they show, well, you know what, okay, listen, and I understand that they're somewhat removed and it's not violence so these people don't get punished the way they should.
02:35:59.000 Certainly banks, when we talk about the bailouts, I think that's criminal.
02:36:02.000 But why are we not offended when a black guy does it to a shopkeeper who he knows on a day-to-day basis where he just steals cigarettes?
02:36:10.000 And let's be real.
02:36:11.000 Why did he not do it?
02:36:12.000 Why do you think George Floyd blew him?
02:36:14.000 Because he's bigger and stronger and probably intimidated the guy.
02:36:18.000 Yeah.
02:36:19.000 Just like Mike Brown.
02:36:20.000 Do you guys remember that?
02:36:21.000 Knocked over a liquor store the day he stole the gun from Officer Wilson and hit him in the head with it.
02:36:28.000 You seeing a pattern?
02:36:30.000 You think Officer Wilson, who specifically asked to be in Ferguson so that he could have more interactions and help those underprivileged?
02:36:35.000 There was not a racist bone in Darren Wilson's body.
02:36:37.000 You think that guy's the problem?
02:36:39.000 Or do you think the guy, Mike Brown, who that day committed a crime against other members of his community before violently assaulting an officer, is more indicative of the problem in this community?
02:36:50.000 Or do you think it's the cop?
02:36:51.000 Do you think that George Floyd with a rap sheet a mile long and that day committed a crime taking money out of someone else's pocket is a problem?
02:37:00.000 Or do you think it's just when the cops show up?
02:37:01.000 We need to be able to talk about these things.
02:37:03.000 If you're going to make it all about race, CNN, MSNBC, and racist cops, if we want to have dialogues to improve everyone's community, guess what?
02:37:14.000 It's not about the cops, and it's not about melanin.
02:37:19.000 What are you doing there?
02:37:19.000 I think the extreme division is certainly not the way to handle it.
02:37:24.000 I don't think the division is a way to... But the problem is, there's no way around it now, because immediately before the body was cold, they were talking about... Well, it's because that's why Al Sharpton exists.
02:37:35.000 I mean, that's why he's there.
02:37:36.000 He's a racial ambulance chaser.
02:37:37.000 It's why he showed up, and I'll just say it on this show.
02:37:40.000 He's also a guy who hates Jewish people and has been very vocal about that, and that's perfectly acceptable.
02:37:44.000 Well, yeah.
02:37:45.000 But I just don't think it's about dividing everything in half, and that's the problem
02:37:49.000 right now, is we want to just completely look at it as these black and white issues, and
02:37:54.000 there's some serious issues.
02:37:55.000 But we keep saying we want to have a conversation, we want to solve the problem.
02:37:58.000 You can't solve this problem.
02:38:00.000 You can't change people's opinions.
02:38:02.000 You can't make everybody all think the same.
02:38:04.000 It's an isolated incident that should be judged on an isolated incident.
02:38:08.000 But if you're going to talk about the pervasive problem, the systemic problem, it's a problem with crime and disregard for members in their community.
02:38:15.000 Well, I think you also would have to add the underprivileged community, though.
02:38:19.000 I mean, if you live in a poorer area, aren't you more likely to commit a crime?
02:38:24.000 Yeah, but here's the truth.
02:38:26.000 Poor white people don't commit crimes against poor black people, the way that poor black people do against poor white people.
02:38:31.000 And poor white people don't commit crimes against other poor white people in the same rights.
02:38:34.000 Well, if you're talking about drugs, I think they commit plenty of crimes, though.
02:38:37.000 Well, they do drugs, but as far as robberies, as far as violent crime, as far as homicide, look, a black person in this country is far more likely to- Well, it's true.
02:38:48.000 That's true.
02:38:49.000 That being said, you'd think there'd be more because you just need to punch through the wall and pull out whatever you grab.
02:38:55.000 But statistically, a black person in America is most likely to be killed by a black person and a white person.
02:39:01.000 Is likely to be killed by a black person.
02:39:03.000 And this comes from, I think, right now, again, like we said, this ties back to the voting laws.
02:39:08.000 Black people can't get ID.
02:39:10.000 Well, hold on a second.
02:39:11.000 Why don't they?
02:39:12.000 It's free.
02:39:13.000 Well, they don't know how to get there.
02:39:14.000 Well, we can have them do it online.
02:39:17.000 Black people don't know how to get online.
02:39:20.000 Black people don't know that bills are counterfeit.
02:39:23.000 This is what the left does when you have the racism, the prejudice of low expectations.
02:39:29.000 Black people don't know how to use birth control.
02:39:32.000 They need Planned Parenthood.
02:39:34.000 It's all predicated on this idea that people in those communities, people in these communities, meaning urban black communities, need the white liberal savior and they need someone to fish for them every day that they somehow can't be taught to fish.
02:39:49.000 This is the issue that we keep running into.
02:39:51.000 Black people can't go to the DMV, black people can't get online to vote, black people can't get into schools unless we give them affirmative action, black people need more money, and by the way black people can't get ahead if white, this is according to Black Lives Matter, if white families stay together and there's a nuclear family so we have to do away with that too.
02:40:08.000 This is where we've come, this is not at all the kind of racial justice that Martin Luther King Jr.
02:40:13.000 was talking about.
02:40:15.000 That we were talking about in the 80s, 90s, early 2000s?
02:40:18.000 It's not even the kind of justice that Barack Obama was talking about, by the way.
02:40:22.000 To see how drastically times have changed, Barack Obama went into office opposing gay marriage and now believes that men should be playing in women's sports.
02:40:32.000 Donald Trump is the only president who was for gay marriage when he became president and for gay marriage when he left the presidency.
02:40:39.000 That's how rapidly these things change.
02:40:43.000 And right now there is this pervasive racism from the left, and I truly mean this, It really does break my heart if a black person in the country today, someone watching, if you believe for a second what the left has told you that you can't get ID and that you're too dumb to use the internet.
02:40:59.000 That to me, that someone will as veil as they want it to be and they label it under the guise of privilege and it is so racist to me.
02:41:09.000 And it robs people, by the way, when black people in this country are successful and have worked hard, it robs them of the satisfaction of knowing that they got ahead on their merits.
02:41:21.000 And that's what bothers me.
02:41:22.000 But we're not being honest about the problem.
02:41:24.000 Let's be honest about the problem if we are not acknowledging that people like George Floyd who go their entire life physically harming people, financially harming people, and emotionally harming people without repercussion.
02:41:35.000 Look, I'm sorry, if I had robbed someone at gunpoint with a toddler there, I think they should lock me away.
02:41:43.000 And if several times that day I had stolen, whether I knew or not, but was given the opportunity to make it right, that day from a local shopkeeper from the drugstore down the street, I would expect for people to think that I'm a piece of shit.
02:41:59.000 And the narrative was that George Floyd was turning over a new leaf.
02:42:02.000 Yeah, that's always the narrative, though.
02:42:04.000 I mean, that's if you watch Fruitvale Station or any movie that covers it.
02:42:07.000 I mean, that's the reality is it's always I was trying to do good.
02:42:10.000 I mean, that's that's simply not the case.
02:42:13.000 But same with Mike Brown.
02:42:14.000 He was trying to do good that day.
02:42:15.000 He just shoved an old guy at a liquor store.
02:42:17.000 Yeah, it's the narrative that they usually play out.
02:42:24.000 Again, none of this means that there wasn't a tragedy that took place.
02:42:29.000 None of this means... It doesn't take away that it's not a problem.
02:42:32.000 Right.
02:42:32.000 And we're focusing on something that statistically is not a problem in comparison to what statistically is a verifiable, repeatable problem.
02:42:39.000 You can see it just in this instance with George Floyd.
02:42:43.000 Who presents a greater risk to the streets of Minneapolis?
02:42:49.000 The police force or George Floyd?
02:42:52.000 George Floyd.
02:42:53.000 Here's what bothers me, too, is right now I'm looking at CNN and they're airing the commercials with the George Floyd killing still printed to the left of it.
02:43:01.000 With Flo from Progressive.
02:43:03.000 Yeah.
02:43:03.000 And someone gets shoved in on her back.
02:43:06.000 I know that's true.
02:43:06.000 I think we all can agree.
02:43:12.000 I'd like to see some urine flow from her.
02:43:17.000 Why are you dressed this way?
02:43:21.000 I have no idea.
02:43:22.000 They bring things in, I do what I'm told.
02:43:24.000 Officer?
02:43:24.000 You're supposed to lean on his neck.
02:43:25.000 Oh, you're going to lean on my knee?
02:43:26.000 Oh, don't do that.
02:43:27.000 At some point, I will win.
02:43:28.000 Thanks, George.
02:43:29.000 It was your idea.
02:43:30.000 Yeah, I didn't know we were actually going to do it.
02:43:32.000 Do we want to do it in a video for next time or do we want to do it live today?
02:43:37.000 No, no, we can show—so look, we can show, but I'm probably going to go on your neck first and then show you how to— No, don't do mine!
02:43:42.000 Well, yeah!
02:43:42.000 He's the cop.
02:43:43.000 I'm the cop!
02:43:44.000 Well, I know you're the cop, but you don't know how to— You don't know how to— I turn in the tables.
02:43:48.000 He's the cop.
02:43:48.000 Do you want to use Token Owen, because he's— No, no, no.
02:43:51.000 You know what?
02:43:52.000 Then after this—okay, since we have a break right now, I'm not going to lean on your neck, but I'll show you a basic control position that would be in wrestling, and you'll see how uncomfortable it is.
02:43:58.000 You can show me on the cop there.
02:43:59.000 I'll show you on the cop.
02:44:01.000 We have a good police chat about that too.
02:44:04.000 Clayton B was wondering, my question is on the training they have on this knee hold, how long do they hold it after control has been established?
02:44:09.000 That's the only issue I see.
02:44:10.000 Once he passed out, why would you stay on the guy?
02:44:12.000 So you can probably give like a...
02:44:14.000 Yeah, well first off, it's not a position with control.
02:44:17.000 That's what I'm saying.
02:44:18.000 It's not a position with control at all.
02:44:19.000 I don't know why they teach it to people.
02:44:23.000 I think maybe they teach it because if you have one knee on the neck and then one knee on their torso, it controls them better with two officers.
02:44:31.000 But even then, there are still more effective ways to do it.
02:44:35.000 Believe me when I say this, and sometimes police officers get mad and they get defensive, you cannot underestimate the ineptitude of police department training when it comes to physical restraints.
02:44:47.000 It's less than rudimentary.
02:44:50.000 And I don't think that one man should be hung from the gallows for a mistake that has been made repeatedly.
02:44:56.000 Repeatedly.
02:44:57.000 And I know people love to buy these myths.
02:44:59.000 Look, this is something where...
02:45:01.000 And I think now maybe it's more acceptable because we understand that the military, for example, is now a petri dish for social justice warrior ideology, but people used to think that if I said, hey, you know what, there are some myths that people attribute to special forces that aren't true, people would be like, oh yeah, no, they can kill you with their bare hands.
02:45:15.000 No, look, we would have Navy SEALs, we would have Marines, we would have Special Forces,
02:45:21.000 we would have Army Rangers, we would have... take it from any branch that come into the
02:45:24.000 school, which was an MMA school and I just did Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and some basic boxing,
02:45:28.000 they would get rolled up by blue belts.
02:45:30.000 Why?
02:45:31.000 Because they're not trained fighters, they're trained with firearms.
02:45:34.000 They're supposed to be trained in de-escalation.
02:45:36.000 They're trained where if they have five people, they can use a taser.
02:45:39.000 But that being said, because they get people through this training pretty quickly, they have to go to the tools in their belt, which are weapons.
02:45:47.000 And that by itself escalates the situation.
02:45:50.000 Most police officers out there today, I would say the vast majority, are not physically capable of restraining someone to the degree of a ninth grade high school wrestler.
02:46:02.000 Yeah, that's probably pretty accurate.
02:46:04.000 And small female officers are capable of restraining George Floyd?
02:46:08.000 Never.
02:46:09.000 Never.
02:46:11.000 If it was a small female officer who responded to George Floyd, she probably wouldn't be able to cuff him.
02:46:15.000 Her only option is to tase or shoot.
02:46:21.000 Say it on air.
02:46:22.000 185.
02:46:22.000 Say it on air.
02:46:23.000 I would have said 315.
02:46:25.000 I'm not good at this.
02:46:27.000 A very good comparison would be having him kneel on your neck instead of me.
02:46:32.000 I'm bigger than George Floyd.
02:46:34.000 So it would be like having Tocanawa kneel on your neck.
02:46:38.000 All right, give me the mustache.
02:46:39.000 And he looks better in this, that's really... Okay, all right, give Tokino on the mustache.
02:46:39.000 That's the weight.
02:46:43.000 I would look like the female cop.
02:46:47.000 If you want to demonstrate that.
02:46:48.000 Like the female cop who shows up in the sitcom with the belt too high, like, all right, what's going on here?
02:46:54.000 Hey!
02:46:55.000 It's Melissa McCarthy.
02:46:56.000 Yeah, it's Melissa McCarthy.
02:46:58.000 You're on my feet.
02:47:00.000 This cap's completely inept.
02:47:01.000 Why would you hire her?
02:47:02.000 And all of this, too, is being abused.
02:47:04.000 Speaking of Al Sharpton, oh my god, they're doing the chain link thing.
02:47:07.000 Please, someone turn this up.
02:47:09.000 It's a ridiculous tie he's got on.
02:47:12.000 He's really lost weight.
02:47:13.000 He's the kind of guy you should put some weight back on.
02:47:13.000 He's an ascot.
02:47:16.000 It's like, ow, ow, ow.
02:47:16.000 Yeah, he is.
02:47:18.000 There's a level between, you know, you and Little Nicky, you being pretty, you know, portly, and Tom Hanks Philadelphia.
02:47:27.000 Split the difference.
02:47:28.000 Emaciated and obese.
02:47:31.000 There is a line in between.
02:47:32.000 Now he looks like the little bug that went kachoo.
02:47:34.000 You just need a curvy Al Sharpton.
02:47:37.000 Al Sharpton is one of my least favorite people on the planet.
02:47:39.000 I think it's anybody who's you or Jewish.
02:47:42.000 Again, I say because he called them roaches.
02:47:44.000 That's true.
02:47:45.000 Well, Farrakhan.
02:47:48.000 They don't care about the anti-Semitic attacks coming from people like Farrakhan.
02:47:52.000 They want to claim that it's from the people in the Republican Party who support a strong alliance with Israel.
02:47:59.000 Just like with Asians.
02:48:00.000 They don't want to acknowledge the fact that Asians have been getting screwed in admittance in colleges like we've been talking about just at Stanford and Brown alone.
02:48:07.000 We've done multiple stories on this.
02:48:09.000 They don't want to talk about that.
02:48:10.000 They want you to think that now it's the people who believe in a meritocracy who have been committing hate crimes against Asians.
02:48:17.000 This is the divide and conquer.
02:48:19.000 And I just, I will say this, I try and be a happy warrior as much as I can, but we don't have much longer going on with this right now.
02:48:28.000 We don't have much longer going on with, it's not just racial division.
02:48:32.000 Because I will allow for the fact that sometimes solutions will be uncomfortable for people of any race, gender, creed.
02:48:43.000 Sometimes everyone has to look at themselves and there's going to be division on solutions to the problem.
02:48:47.000 I understand that.
02:48:49.000 The issue is that we're starting out dishonestly.
02:48:52.000 And that is happening all the time right now.
02:48:54.000 That's why I'm so concerned.
02:48:56.000 Look, do I care that I've been banned, that I've been suspended from Twitter?
02:49:00.000 Not so much.
02:49:01.000 What worries me is that I was suspended for simply pointing out that Twitter doesn't list reasons for suspension.
02:49:06.000 Does it worry, do I lose any money by the fact that our one-year anniversary, 15 days to flatten the curve, Was removed from YouTube.
02:49:14.000 Nope.
02:49:15.000 I don't believe it was monetized anyway.
02:49:16.000 So it doesn't change my pocketbook one dime.
02:49:19.000 But it scares me.
02:49:20.000 It scares me that YouTube says, hey, this show, using CDC guidelines, using the World Health Organization, using medical—everything was coming from PUP.
02:49:30.000 You can go to LotOfCredit.com and see the sources listed for that show.
02:49:32.000 Them saying, but we don't want this here because the solution needs to start from whatever Dr. Fauci says.
02:49:39.000 Lockdowns.
02:49:40.000 That's what worries me.
02:49:42.000 We don't have that long going down this trail of starting off from a dishonest premise.
02:49:48.000 Have they gone back now?
02:49:50.000 They're calling witnesses.
02:49:52.000 Okay, who is this witness right here?
02:49:54.000 And then you can lean on me afterwards there.
02:49:55.000 Can you tell the jurors what your occupation is?
02:49:58.000 I am a Minneapolis 9-1-1 dispatcher.
02:50:01.000 And so who is your employer?
02:50:03.000 City of Minneapolis.
02:50:04.000 And how long have you been doing that?
02:50:06.000 Almost seven years.
02:50:09.000 Can you tell the jurors what kind of training goes into being a dispatcher?
02:50:15.000 We hang up on anyone named Karen.
02:50:17.000 We go through close to two years of training starting with call taking where citizens are calling 911 with their emergencies.
02:50:26.000 Also speaking to non-emergencies and how we can direct those.
02:50:32.000 We then work with police and fire on sending them their calls and prioritizing those.
02:50:37.000 Also, you've put me on hold for nine minutes playing Earth, Wind, and Fire the last time I called in.
02:50:41.000 That was rude.
02:50:42.000 I said I was being stabbed.
02:50:43.000 There's a rapist in my house.
02:50:45.000 Please hold.
02:50:47.000 Couldn't help but dance.
02:50:51.000 This is gonna hurt.
02:50:52.000 The Edit Bay also found some footage of George Floyd from May 2019 in a very similar police stop that they're saying might be used by the defense.
02:51:01.000 Oh, do we have it?
02:51:03.000 Alright, let me watch.
02:51:04.000 This is footage of George Floyd from May 2019.
02:51:07.000 I'm seeing this for the first time.
02:51:09.000 Because who was the other guy who I found that other pullover that no one had seen?
02:51:13.000 Rayshard Brooks.
02:51:14.000 Remember Rayshard Brooks?
02:51:15.000 The other pullover where he was by the train tracks?
02:51:17.000 And I don't think anyone else still showed that.
02:51:20.000 But this is now George Floyd.
02:51:23.000 And we've confirmed that this is him for sure.
02:51:25.000 George Floyd, 2019.
02:51:27.000 Watching it for the first time with you.
02:51:31.000 I'm not going to shoot you.
02:51:32.000 Put your hands on the dash!
02:51:35.000 Put your hands on the dash.
02:51:37.000 Last time I'm going to tell you that.
02:51:38.000 It's simple.
02:51:41.000 He keeps moving his hands around.
02:51:44.000 He won't listen to what I have to say.
02:51:46.000 Put your hands on top of your head.
02:51:48.000 Put them on your head.
02:51:52.000 Spit out what you got.
02:51:52.000 Open your mouth.
02:51:54.000 Yeah, he had pills in this one too.
02:51:56.000 Hands are not on top of his head.
02:52:02.000 Okay, now slowly come on out.
02:52:03.000 Okay, relax.
02:52:04.000 You're not going to get beat up or nothing.
02:52:07.000 You just follow what we're asking you to do.
02:52:11.000 Okay, relax then.
02:52:13.000 You're not going to get beat up or nothing.
02:52:17.000 You just follow what we're asking you to do.
02:52:19.000 I apologize as well, man.
02:52:23.000 I apologize, man. I apologize.
02:52:26.000 So it's kind of his go-to, is don't shoot me, don't shoot me, and okay, okay, okay, but not do what they ask.
02:52:31.000 Erratic behavior, and yeah.
02:52:33.000 Now, look, people go, oh, he was just putting a pill in his mouth.
02:52:36.000 Sure!
02:52:36.000 He could have been reaching for a gun.
02:52:37.000 He was obviously trying to put a pill in his mouth so there wasn't the evidence.
02:52:40.000 That's most likely what was happening.
02:52:42.000 Yeah.
02:52:43.000 But if someone says, put your hands in the dash, and you don't, they can't see where your hands are.
02:52:48.000 Yeah.
02:52:49.000 If you're in a high-crime neighborhood, and your police officer that works there knows that it's And it's a guy clearly with a history, if they run his plates, with no problem using firearms against his fellow citizens.
02:53:00.000 He has.
02:53:01.000 How old was George Floyd?
02:53:02.000 46?
02:53:03.000 I don't know.
02:53:06.000 I know he was in his 40s.
02:53:07.000 Okay.
02:53:08.000 Yeah, when he died, he was 46.
02:53:08.000 So that was in that was 2019.
02:53:09.000 So probably in 40, 44.
02:53:10.000 No, when he died, he was 46.
02:53:11.000 But that pullover, I'm saying he would have been 40.
02:53:12.000 in 40... 44? No, when he died he was 46. But that pullover, I'm saying he would have been
02:53:19.000 40. Oh, I gotcha.
02:53:23.000 to give them who am I correcting radio and listen to the firefighters across
02:53:30.000 the room you will have our channel 7 that is closely located to our dispatch
02:53:36.000 group which is approximately four people this is I will say this be a lawyer here
02:53:42.000 on the left he has a mouth like when you're looking up at a hammerhead shark
02:53:45.000 I mean there's a chance though that he was tuned up by cops a few times which
02:53:52.000 could lead him to having this reaction later in life.
02:53:55.000 Oh, of course.
02:53:56.000 Sure.
02:53:56.000 Yeah.
02:53:57.000 Sure.
02:53:57.000 Again, that's not saying the cop's responsible.
02:54:00.000 No, I'm sure he can be, but... He could help explain his behavior, yes.
02:54:03.000 But more likely, he's a criminal who doesn't want to go to jail.
02:54:06.000 Well, I think that's any drug addict, really.
02:54:08.000 I mean, and are they criminals?
02:54:09.000 Are they sick?
02:54:10.000 I mean, usually hand in hand.
02:54:12.000 Well, hold on, let's also be really clear, there's a difference between being a drug addict and being a serial violent offender, which George Floyd... Yes, there is, absolutely.
02:54:18.000 I agree.
02:54:20.000 Which, hey, let me ask you just one quick question.
02:54:22.000 I wasn't trying to say... No, no, no, I know you weren't, I know you weren't, and I think it's good that you're here asking these questions because I think this is, listen, this is an emotionally charged issue, and people need to understand... He's like Jesse Venture, I'm just asking.
02:54:32.000 But what are you suggesting, Jesse?
02:54:35.000 I don't know, was George W. Bush outside Tower 7 with an Acme plunger before it went down?
02:54:41.000 I'm just asking the facts.
02:54:43.000 I saw Dan Quayle put dynamite into Tower One.
02:54:47.000 You would know that, too, if you weren't so busy asking about which Kardashian's ass is most fat, because you're not asking about the facts.
02:54:55.000 It's Kim.
02:54:59.000 Do you think Bob Kardashian's just looking up from hell like they're all getting banged?
02:55:05.000 Those are my girls.
02:55:08.000 Here's my question, too.
02:55:09.000 This is something I was just wondering the other day.
02:55:11.000 And I agree that the war on drugs is largely a failure.
02:55:14.000 But what I have always said is, look, if you just legalize all drugs, which sometimes is the solution, don't you really think that the drug cartels are going to straighten up and fly away?
02:55:21.000 I believe it was a city in Washington or Oregon.
02:55:24.000 I believe it was a city in Washington or decriminalized.
02:55:26.000 Maybe not legalized, sorry.
02:55:27.000 they go well the war on drugs you see many people on the left say that we need
02:55:30.000 to legalize all drugs was it Portland who just did it Portland or Seattle or
02:55:33.000 Oregon there was some place that just legalized all drugs.
02:55:36.000 Wasn't it Washington?
02:55:37.000 Denver I think right? No it wasn't. Was it Colorado? No it was somewhere in the... I believe it was a city in
02:55:42.000 Washington or Oregon. I believe it was a city in Washington or decriminalized maybe not legalized.
02:55:46.000 Yeah but everything was decriminalized. Including like black tar heroin.
02:55:49.000 Yes.
02:55:50.000 Which, I'm not gonna lie, I don't really know the difference between... I don't know the difference between black tar heroin and heroin regular.
02:55:55.000 They're both...
02:55:57.000 Spid...
02:55:59.000 That Dave's like, well actually...
02:56:01.000 I've only done one thing.
02:56:03.000 But here's my question.
02:56:05.000 People who are against the drug war, they go, it's failed because, look, you just put money in the hands of drug cartels.
02:56:10.000 Then they also want to ban semi-automatic firearms.
02:56:14.000 Do you have any idea how much money there will be to be made in gun running?
02:56:19.000 Looks like it was the entire state of Oregon, too, by the way.
02:56:22.000 Oh, shocking.
02:56:23.000 I was right.
02:56:24.000 Well, of course, they're just going to go to another illegal activity.
02:56:27.000 Well, I know, but it's just ironic to me when people go, well, we need to legalize all drugs because the drug war and you're putting the money in the hands.
02:56:33.000 Look, there are three ways that drug cartels, that these illegal criminal operations where they make money, okay?
02:56:39.000 Drugs, guns, prostitution.
02:56:42.000 Human trafficking, really.
02:56:43.000 Yeah, human trafficking.
02:56:45.000 So if you legalize all drugs, they're just going to traffic more people, and then if you make guns illegal, well, you've actually just added a profit margin.
02:56:53.000 Well, you've also, now you have free range to take the drugs that break those prostitutes, and yeah, I shouldn't be grinning, but you know.
02:57:01.000 No, I know what you're saying.
02:57:03.000 It's a valid point.
02:57:04.000 You shouldn't have a smile on your face, Dave.
02:57:07.000 That's because you spent a lot of the time in the bathroom.
02:57:10.000 Hey Dave, so I do have a question for you.
02:57:13.000 Chuck Berry room.
02:57:14.000 I think you have a good perspective on this, but knowing what you know now.
02:57:18.000 About dope?
02:57:19.000 No, about this trial, right?
02:57:21.000 Because I think a lot of people, they just saw the hype for this, right?
02:57:24.000 They just saw like the media hype and hysteria over what was going on.
02:57:28.000 But knowing what you know now, having seen the entire video, having some context to it, do you think it's now okay to go down and burn the Walgreens down?
02:57:34.000 Or maybe that was an overreach?
02:57:35.000 Oh, I didn't think that was okay before.
02:57:36.000 I know you didn't.
02:57:37.000 I'm being sarcastic on that.
02:57:39.000 But like, this was the basis for the riots during, by the way, something that we were all supposed to be so afraid of that we couldn't go outside, COVID.
02:57:47.000 We had a spike right after the riots, but obviously it wasn't because of COVID.
02:57:50.000 And we had property damage around the country, people's lives ruined, people's lives destroyed, killed.
02:57:57.000 All because of this!
02:57:57.000 This is what started it!
02:57:59.000 This was a breath of fresh air to people that were angry and were locked up.
02:58:03.000 I mean, this is all a result of one thing leading to another.
02:58:06.000 COVID was something that was used, in my personal opinion, simply to get Trump out of office and demonize him, which then led to this, which further demonized him, saying it was his America.
02:58:16.000 And I wasn't even this diehard fan of Trump, but if anybody fails to see that, this is all a result of cause and effect.
02:58:23.000 I mean, that's the reality, is we wanted to play this game of white supremacy.
02:58:26.000 And I'm not saying that that doesn't exist to some degree in the world, or hasn't ever.
02:58:33.000 But the idea that everything should be riding on this, and the fact that our country and our future is riding on this, and more people's businesses.
02:58:42.000 That's the part that I don't understand, either.
02:58:44.000 The white rioters going into black neighborhoods and burning down their community.
02:58:48.000 It makes no sense to me.
02:58:50.000 Antifa.
02:58:51.000 They fight fascism.
02:58:54.000 They fight old women until their big sons walk up and then they run.
02:58:57.000 Their model of cocktailing their truth.
02:59:00.000 Yeah, that's true.
02:59:01.000 And I also like the word my truth because it means it's a lie.
02:59:06.000 Such a cute way of putting that.
02:59:08.000 But I do think it's disturbing what's ended up happening, because you needed an excuse.
02:59:15.000 If you lock people up, take away their jobs.
02:59:17.000 I mean, look at George Floyd even, for example.
02:59:19.000 He had no money, he had a counterfeit bill, whether he knew it or not, which he got because of a collapsed economy and losing his job.
02:59:25.000 The guy was probably pissed off, went to get a pack of cigarettes, wasn't going to give him back.
02:59:30.000 That's what they said.
02:59:32.000 That's what they said.
02:59:33.000 So going off every bit of evidence we saw, he had just lost a job.
02:59:37.000 So he lost a job because, if he was a nightclub bouncer, he did.
02:59:40.000 I thought that he hadn't worked at that club in a while.
02:59:43.000 Well, at least that's the excuse was given that he lost his job.
02:59:46.000 He did lose his job.
02:59:47.000 So maybe he didn't want to give the cigarettes back.
02:59:49.000 He was like, well, fuck you, I have nothing, I'm pissed off.
02:59:52.000 You know, I'm not saying that gives an excuse, but when you've been locked up and detained, and you've been in prison, then you're out, and you've been locked up and detained again by the government for reasons you don't understand, and you're a drug addict, it's a powder keg.
03:00:05.000 And it proved it, because the whole country burned.
03:00:08.000 Yeah.
03:00:08.000 So this sucks.
03:00:10.000 But I think it's important to note that everyone was locked up.
03:00:14.000 I agree.
03:00:15.000 Everyone.
03:00:15.000 And only one half burned the country.
03:00:18.000 We need to be clear about that.
03:00:18.000 That's right.
03:00:19.000 That's where people say, well, it's left and right.
03:00:21.000 No, no.
03:00:22.000 You have one example long after the country burned to the tune of $2 billion with 200 people out of several hundred thousand at the Capitol.
03:00:29.000 But one side of this country burned it down and one party encouraged it.
03:00:35.000 Kamala Harris, Vice President.
03:00:37.000 President.
03:00:37.000 Saying, well they shouldn't stop.
03:00:40.000 Get used to it.
03:00:41.000 This is the new normal and they shouldn't stop rioting.
03:00:43.000 I don't know how Donald Trump is guilty of inciting violence and Kamala Harris isn't.
03:00:48.000 I don't know how all the staffers who smoked weed have been fired and Kamala Harris is still VP!
03:00:53.000 So I'm still figuring out some of this!
03:00:55.000 Not fair!
03:00:57.000 Well, it's great, though, because we have higher gas prices.
03:01:00.000 They now want to charge you per mileage that you're driving.
03:01:02.000 They're firing people for weed, so you guys voted in the right team.
03:01:06.000 Good job.
03:01:07.000 Enjoy being poor again.
03:01:08.000 How's that vote working out for you?
03:01:10.000 And enjoy the international community going, oh, Biden's in?
03:01:13.000 Okay, we can do whatever we want.
03:01:14.000 Yeah, we can do whatever we want.
03:01:15.000 You know, like they are now, where they're like, we're not even going to talk to him.
03:01:17.000 We might bomb you.
03:01:18.000 I don't know.
03:01:19.000 I don't know.
03:01:21.000 Biden, I haven't made up my mind yet.
03:01:22.000 Yeah, do the Roman candle.
03:01:24.000 That one.
03:01:25.000 No, it's infuriating because we have all these cameras and eyes on things in the public and it hasn't done us a service.
03:01:32.000 No, it hasn't done us a service because people like Al Sharpton rushed to the scene to say it was systemic racism.
03:01:38.000 Well, here's the thing.
03:01:38.000 It used to be Al Sharpton.
03:01:39.000 He was a joke.
03:01:40.000 But guess what?
03:01:41.000 He's no different from Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris right now.
03:01:44.000 Al Sharpton is less radical than everyone in the DNC.
03:01:48.000 Think about that for a second right now.
03:01:50.000 People in office right now are tarring and feathering.
03:01:53.000 Everybody, everybody who are police officers, they're saying defund the police.
03:01:58.000 They're saying we have systemic discrimination.
03:02:00.000 We know statistically, verifiably, it's not true.
03:02:03.000 The issue here is, just like with COVID, starting off with a lie.
03:02:08.000 It started off with 2.0.
03:02:11.000 2.4 million dead.
03:02:13.000 And silencing anyone who said... and they're still silencing!
03:02:16.000 Because we're nowhere near that number, by the way, and YouTube removed our entire episode on that.
03:02:21.000 So it started with the lie, we're going to have 2.4 million dead unless we do 15 days to flatten the curve.
03:02:25.000 That was a lie.
03:02:26.000 And now, the lie, we need to defund the police because they're shooting black men in record numbers.
03:02:30.000 That's a lie!
03:02:31.000 That is a lie.
03:02:32.000 What is not a lie is that George Floyd, the way he lived his life, does not mean he deserved to die, is far more indicative of the statistical problem that the black community has to deal with on a daily basis.
03:02:47.000 37 times the violent crime rate.
03:02:49.000 That doesn't even include counterfeit bill and having no empathy for the guy who needs to feed his kids at the, at the, what is it?
03:02:56.000 Top food supply?
03:02:58.000 CNN used to say, Jake Tapper said the big lie was when Donald Trump said the election was stolen.
03:03:02.000 And that is what is responsible for the January 6th riots on the Capitol.
03:03:06.000 The insurrection.
03:03:07.000 The big lie.
03:03:08.000 This is hearkening back to Germany in a very bad period of time.
03:03:11.000 He pulled that comment out.
03:03:13.000 The big lie has been telling this country for the last year that if you're black, that police are going to shoot you randomly.
03:03:19.000 And that led to violence.
03:03:20.000 That led to people's lives being lost.
03:03:22.000 Why is there no accountability for them?
03:03:24.000 Why is there no accountability for those guys who are saying, hey, if you go out and lie in public, Donald Trump, and you tell people this election was stolen, and they go and take over the Capitol, it's your fault.
03:03:32.000 Jake Tapper, you said that this country was systemically racist.
03:03:36.000 People went out, they rioted, people's lives were lost, is that not your fault?
03:03:39.000 Also, why the fuck does Vermont not have a $15 minimum wage, Bernie?
03:03:44.000 That's true.
03:03:45.000 I was just thinking about this the other day.
03:03:45.000 Come on.
03:03:47.000 I'm sorry, but I was sitting there like, what is it?
03:03:49.000 Can someone look it up?
03:03:49.000 I think in Vermont it's like $11.50.
03:03:50.000 I remember I read it and I thought, that must be a misprint.
03:03:53.000 Cheaper housings, they don't have to pay as much.
03:03:55.000 You gotta work 10 hours to go see fish.
03:03:58.000 I'm just kidding.
03:04:03.000 No, you are right, though.
03:04:04.000 It's like, oh, you first.
03:04:07.000 The insurrection.
03:04:09.000 So stupid.
03:04:10.000 The guy in the woolly mammoth.
03:04:11.000 The insurrection.
03:04:12.000 Are we sure?
03:04:12.000 Was it 1078?
03:04:13.000 1078 and then it moved to 1175.
03:04:13.000 1175.
03:04:13.000 The insert... was it 1078? Are we sure?
03:04:17.000 1078 and then it moved to 1175.
03:04:19.000 1175. Commonly referred to as Bernie's tip on a $400 tab.
03:04:25.000 The soup was cold.
03:04:28.000 There was glass in my soup, sir.
03:04:30.000 I saw you take the broken glass out of your suit pocket and sprinkle it in there.
03:04:34.000 I'm old!
03:04:35.000 What?
03:04:37.000 It's still in there!
03:04:38.000 I was confused!
03:04:39.000 Why didn't you eat some of it before putting in the glass?
03:04:42.000 I don't know anymore.
03:04:43.000 I wasn't committed to the role.
03:04:44.000 At this point, it's really more for the thrill.
03:04:47.000 I want you to have an equal amount of glass in your soup as I have in my soup.
03:04:51.000 Take some glass from you, put it in mine.
03:04:54.000 By the way, did you know that if I throw a baseball out the window, the glass will only go out the window?
03:04:58.000 If you throw it in, that's how they catch criminals.
03:05:00.000 Have you been reading more Sherlock Holmes picture-on-the-pad books?
03:05:03.000 They're intriguing!
03:05:04.000 They are?
03:05:05.000 I use it as a palate cleanse from Marx and Lenin.
03:05:08.000 Marty, we've got to go back to 1985.
03:05:13.000 Oh my gosh.
03:05:14.000 I am just, honestly, the fact that this is, that right now people are tuning in You know what?
03:05:21.000 This is the inverse of what happened with Clarence Thomas, and that's what turned Andrew Breitbart into a conservative.
03:05:25.000 There were people who tuned in thinking, this guy's a monster, and really what equated to, I think some people referred to it as a modern-day lynching, and you should have seen Joe Biden when he was sitting there talking.
03:05:33.000 And then people realized, this is character assassination.
03:05:36.000 That was sort of the first time it happened.
03:05:38.000 They tried to claim that he was a regular at a porno shop, which didn't actually, it couldn't have even been, but it shouldn't even matter!
03:05:44.000 The fact that Clarence Thomas made a joke about a pubic hair on a Diet Coke can Shouldn't matter if he had gone to a seedy video rental store.
03:05:54.000 Right?
03:05:55.000 But this is what happened back then.
03:05:56.000 We're going to make sure we have a trial and it's going to be racially based.
03:05:59.000 That's what happened on the flip side.
03:06:00.000 Same thing with OJ.
03:06:01.000 It's just not true.
03:06:05.000 And it also isn't something that most black Americans feel.
03:06:08.000 They may feel that sometimes there's racial profiling because of this almost race war that the media is trying to incite at this point, but most black Americans, statistically, we can bring that up, want at least as much of a police presence as there is now, or more.
03:06:23.000 They don't want to defund the police.
03:06:24.000 They don't.
03:06:25.000 Different from the Van Jones, the talking heads on CNN, they don't want that.
03:06:29.000 They don't want bad police in the street, and neither do I.
03:06:33.000 Neither does anybody.
03:06:33.000 Well, and I was very just anti-cop in general at one point in my life, and I'm not, obviously, anymore.
03:06:39.000 But I worked at a luggage store in downtown Detroit, which we had pretty much an all-black clientele, and I do remember having conversations with older black people, where they were just like, oh yeah, well, you don't want them now, but if you're in trouble, all of a sudden you're going to want them.
03:06:52.000 And I mean, they felt the same way in their community.
03:06:53.000 It's the same as, there was an old woman who used to wash dishes at this War Memorial, is what it was called, that I worked at, and you drive her home.
03:07:02.000 And you get to her street, and her street was burnt out, but her house was immaculate.
03:07:06.000 Yeah, you get that.
03:07:06.000 Was she, like, Polish or something?
03:07:08.000 No, she was a black woman, and she would get out every night, and she would pick up the trash that was left on her lawn just while she was at work.
03:07:14.000 She couldn't afford to get out of that neighborhood.
03:07:16.000 There are people that do definitely care about that and do want more of a police force.
03:07:19.000 You find that in Detroit, and a lot of times you'll find, like, some old Polish guys who can't afford to get out, you know, they're on retirement.
03:07:25.000 Oh, in Hamtramck for sure.
03:07:26.000 Well, even in Detroit, downtown Detroit.
03:07:27.000 Yeah, you do, yeah, yeah.
03:07:29.000 Gran Torino, but they replaced black people with Hmong, and we were all supposed to believe there was any in Detroit.
03:07:35.000 No, but you see this in Detroit, too, where you will find Burn Down Building, Crack House, or Meth Den, I don't really know.
03:07:41.000 Or just squatter, you know, destroy.
03:07:44.000 Nothing.
03:07:44.000 And then you will see a yard that is immaculate.
03:07:46.000 Immaculate.
03:07:46.000 That looks like, you know, something out of a World War II movie, where like, and once we came home the victors, look at the Allies!
03:07:52.000 And they go into the white picket fence.
03:07:53.000 But you will see it next to what looks like a war zone.
03:07:55.000 And that's just because, and it's just a perfect example of Oh, even in the worst scenario, you can respect your stuff.
03:08:04.000 Well, and they have the autoguns from Congo set up around, so.
03:08:04.000 Yeah.
03:08:07.000 That's true.
03:08:07.000 That's true.
03:08:08.000 Makes it much easier to deal with.
03:08:09.000 Lot of booby traps.
03:08:11.000 Booby traps.
03:08:12.000 Which is also a strip club on 8 Mile.
03:08:12.000 Back there.
03:08:15.000 And white gorillas with lasers.
03:08:17.000 Yes.
03:08:17.000 Everybody deserves a hot meal.
03:08:19.000 Yes.
03:08:19.000 Well, I'm complaining.
03:08:20.000 Part of it is pride of ownership.
03:08:22.000 Like I said, she was a dishwasher.
03:08:24.000 There's something about when you work for something and it's not handed to you, and I think that goes for anything.
03:08:29.000 Free comedy club tickets, a car that might be given to you, anything.
03:08:32.000 If you don't have to work for something, you just, for some reason, a lot of human nature is just to not take care of it.
03:08:38.000 When you've worked hard through your entire life to afford this house, wherever it's at, if it's something you love, you see people take care of that because they put value in their work and their If you buy a house in Detroit right now, look, it's a punchline, but you worked hard for the $6 to procure it.
03:08:52.000 Exactly.
03:08:52.000 That's true.
03:08:53.000 You waited in line at an auction of two people that had $4.
03:08:56.000 Yes.
03:08:57.000 You gave up a latte for that house.
03:09:00.000 You traded that Ponderosa coupon.
03:09:04.000 You traded up, sir.
03:09:05.000 Good job.
03:09:05.000 Is Ponderosa still around?
03:09:06.000 I don't think so.
03:09:07.000 Is the owner's name Joe Ponderosa?
03:09:09.000 Joe Ponderosa.
03:09:10.000 All right, sorry, let's go.
03:09:11.000 I think we're missing the tech.
03:09:12.000 I apologize.
03:09:13.000 I just, this was boring.
03:09:13.000 It's the dispatch lady.
03:09:14.000 I mean, not that she's not important, but what is she going to say?
03:09:16.000 Yes, I dispatched the police.
03:09:18.000 No, they're saying the guy's line of questioning seems completely aimless so far.
03:09:21.000 Just asking about precinct names and dispatch codes.
03:09:24.000 That's what I feel like we're missing.
03:09:26.000 She has a lanyard.
03:09:28.000 Yeah, well, sorry.
03:09:30.000 And she has a stick behind her there.
03:09:32.000 Why does she have a stick, like a pointer stick, a metal stick?
03:09:34.000 It's a six feet distance stick.
03:09:35.000 Is that what it is?
03:09:37.000 Would you be shocked?
03:09:39.000 It sounds like now they're getting they're getting to the fluid dispatch now.
03:09:41.000 All right, let's go.
03:09:42.000 Let's keep track of what it does.
03:09:45.000 How hilarious would it be if she just sneezed and it just... Do y'all have a squeegee?
03:09:54.000 And it went down like GACK.
03:09:56.000 Or they cut to the other side and the guy's making sandwiches.
03:09:59.000 just multiple screens that you have.
03:10:02.000 Yes, they everything looks different.
03:10:07.000 It would take a lot of explaining.
03:10:10.000 But yes, we see all isn't that.
03:10:12.000 Isn't that why you're a witness?
03:10:13.000 Well, if we have to go over this, it's going to be a long day, hun.
03:10:20.000 Oh, you want me to explain? Oh.
03:10:22.000 Well, how's he gonna, uh...
03:10:30.000 Trials are boring.
03:10:31.000 How's he gonna whisper a racist stuff in his client's ear?
03:10:35.000 With the glass there.
03:10:38.000 You're on.
03:10:39.000 He doesn't take into account rebound.
03:10:41.000 This isn't Ghost in Mississippi.
03:10:43.000 Colored!
03:10:43.000 Colored!
03:10:43.000 Oh, jeez, son of a- I told you he doesn't look like Jesus Christ.
03:10:50.000 You just have a bunch of- just a bunch of black Hebrew Israelites right now walk with
03:10:59.000 uh, burlap sacks.
03:11:00.000 All these letters to Jesus Christ!
03:11:06.000 Those who are into theology.
03:11:09.000 Or Greg Kinnear movies.
03:11:11.000 That too.
03:11:12.000 What was that?
03:11:12.000 Letters to Santa?
03:11:13.000 151 has received.
03:11:13.000 Yeah.
03:11:14.000 151 is received.
03:11:15.000 They're drinking?
03:11:16.000 She is.
03:11:17.000 Sorry.
03:11:18.000 I'm going to ask for 151 to be put up on the screen so we can all see it.
03:11:27.000 And we're going to light it.
03:11:28.000 We're all going to do a shot.
03:11:33.000 It's the first page of this document and I'll represent to you that we have not included the entire document, right?
03:11:40.000 Thank goodness for that!
03:11:43.000 So what I'm going to ask you to do here with the first line is tell us Run us through that first line and tell us the information on that very top line.
03:11:57.000 The first line is from the call taker.
03:12:00.000 It is a query of the plate that's in the call.
03:12:03.000 The first line is Mike Lindell showing where the votes went to.
03:12:11.000 She just called that lawyer a query.
03:12:12.000 That's a rough way to start out.
03:12:16.000 You should know your query.
03:12:18.000 You should know query.
03:12:19.000 Are you talking about my turtle mask?
03:12:24.000 My wife called it this morning.
03:12:26.000 There's a mass query.
03:12:28.000 So it's easier for everybody to read along with you.
03:12:33.000 At least the first couple lines, just so that it's bigger for us all to see.
03:12:43.000 So the first column on the left, self-explanatory, that's the date.
03:12:50.000 Correct.
03:12:51.000 And then the time, also probably self-explanatory.
03:12:55.000 What does user mean?
03:12:57.000 User would be how you identify different persons involved.
03:13:02.000 This person, you can tell, is a call taker.
03:13:04.000 It's the first two letters there, and then it has their ID number.
03:13:10.000 We all have our own ID numbers.
03:13:13.000 And so what's your ID number?
03:13:14.000 Mine is 1-2-3-0-9-6.
03:13:16.000 And your phone number?
03:13:17.000 Yes.
03:13:18.000 Seven digits.
03:13:19.000 Hobbies?
03:13:21.000 White or red?
03:13:22.000 Yeah.
03:13:24.000 You like a steak?
03:13:25.000 You into vegetarian?
03:13:26.000 What do you like?
03:13:28.000 How do you know that?
03:13:29.000 It's given to our certain... Everybody has their own specific one.
03:13:32.000 That's weird.
03:13:32.000 If I needed to query that to find out who it was, it would tell me who their name is.
03:13:36.000 But I also know that that's the call taker.
03:13:38.000 What their name is?
03:13:38.000 Sorry.
03:13:40.000 And Ms.
03:13:41.000 Scurry, are you wearing panties?
03:13:42.000 Oh, jeez.
03:13:44.000 I think that's inappropriate.
03:13:45.000 This is common legal... I don't want to bother you with the legalese.
03:13:48.000 He's really pro-forma.
03:13:50.000 This is legal jargon.
03:13:52.000 You need not bother yourself with.
03:13:53.000 I want to get all the facts.
03:13:54.000 Don't worry about it.
03:13:55.000 May I smell your chair?
03:13:57.000 laughter laughter
03:14:01.000 Just want to make sure there's no COVID.
03:14:03.000 There's no COVID.
03:14:04.000 Just smell her hair and just be a Biden, okay?
03:14:07.000 I've got a bloodhound nose.
03:14:10.000 Can we remove your lanyard?
03:14:11.000 I'm going to dust for Prince.
03:14:15.000 They say she's a little dim, but them titties ain't.
03:14:18.000 David Tell, my favorite bit.
03:14:21.000 And then just on 38th Street, it's providing the information of where.
03:14:25.000 Many viewers were thinking that.
03:14:28.000 It's true though.
03:14:29.000 Degenerates.
03:14:29.000 Shut up.
03:14:29.000 we're thinking. It's true though. Degenerates. Shut up. It's a lady.
03:14:38.000 And as part of this process, does that information also go to the officers? Can we have someone bring up a picture of
03:14:49.000 a hammerhead shark underneath? His mouth is like...
03:14:54.000 It really is just... He's very Muppet-y.
03:14:57.000 Yes.
03:14:59.000 Where he's like Beaker.
03:15:04.000 He's like, I don't know.
03:15:06.000 I don't understand you, Beaker.
03:15:10.000 What a boring trial.
03:15:12.000 I know, right?
03:15:13.000 Law is totally not like on TV.
03:15:15.000 Yeah, it's totally not.
03:15:16.000 Someone get Nancy Grace to scream about a missing child?
03:15:19.000 Yeah, that's what we need.
03:15:20.000 I do this for you!
03:15:22.000 By the way, the third line there, the third line is actually important.
03:15:26.000 It says, suspected of being under the influence, I think, or appears this person is under the influence.
03:15:31.000 And that was shared with all the officers before they got there, so they knew that going in.
03:15:34.000 Now is your response here of, mm-hmm, correct?
03:15:41.000 And do you spell that with three or four M's?
03:15:43.000 How do you do that?
03:15:46.000 Could you show us how you did it?
03:15:48.000 Do you mind if I loosen my tie?
03:15:49.000 It's getting hot in here.
03:15:52.000 Feel free to loosen yours.
03:15:54.000 Oh, you're not wearing one.
03:15:55.000 Well, feel free to loosen whatever it is that you wear.
03:15:57.000 Yeah, whatever keeps those up.
03:15:59.000 So terrible.
03:16:04.000 You're going to have to do something to pass the time, guys.
03:16:06.000 I understand.
03:16:09.000 How's your back?
03:16:13.000 You know, there's a Motel 6 not far from here, and I only need 15 minutes of recess.
03:16:17.000 Six minutes with you.
03:16:19.000 Well, you know what, attorney?
03:16:21.000 I don't think I'm comfortable with that.
03:16:22.000 Well, I'll tell you what.
03:16:23.000 I'll just leave the key here, and I'll leave the light on for you.
03:16:25.000 There you go.
03:16:27.000 Oh, I seem to have left my motel room key right here.
03:16:32.000 Just under the glass, you just see... Sir, what is that?
03:16:38.000 It's not a Marriott key.
03:16:39.000 What, a Marriott key?
03:16:43.000 Who am I, a Rockefeller?
03:16:44.000 It's Motel 6!
03:16:46.000 We could both look out the window while it happens at the protesters.
03:16:50.000 I originally dispatched this to 330.
03:16:56.000 Let's get a third floor room so we can feel better.
03:17:00.000 Look down at the police.
03:17:02.000 I want to make sure I have this right.
03:17:03.000 So this is Matthew Frank.
03:17:05.000 This is the prosecutor.
03:17:07.000 Is that his lanyard?
03:17:08.000 Is that real?
03:17:10.000 Sorry.
03:17:11.000 It's him!
03:17:12.000 It's the mouth!
03:17:16.000 By the way, hammerhead sharks are really unpredictable.
03:17:19.000 Sometimes they're fine, you can swim and touch them, and sometimes they're just thrashy.
03:17:23.000 So I think we should make them all extinct.
03:17:25.000 That's right.
03:17:26.000 And prior to coming to court, did you have an opportunity to listen to a copy of that call?
03:17:33.000 Did you have an opportunity to get lunch, or should we...
03:17:39.000 I've got a reso at Wendy's.
03:17:44.000 Not that Wendy's.
03:17:45.000 He's mirroring his phone with the exhibits and they just see him dialing Panera.
03:17:48.000 Yeah.
03:17:50.000 Pardon me, your honor, I'm placing my order.
03:17:52.000 Now, for example, D double D. Wow, you and this page have a lot in common.
03:17:59.000 Is this Dave's terrible pickup lines?
03:18:01.000 Yes, completely.
03:18:05.000 What does the tag on your lanyard say?
03:18:07.000 No, it says George Floyd Trial.
03:18:09.000 I thought it said Made in Heaven.
03:18:12.000 He has been referred to as Jesus Christ.
03:18:15.000 Oh, this is the car.
03:18:17.000 Why'd you stop?
03:18:17.000 who used a color fit bill as a business, stopped acting as a black male,
03:18:22.000 six foot or taller than him.
03:18:24.000 Why'd you stop?
03:18:25.000 Why would you stop?
03:18:29.000 I apologize, your honor.
03:18:30.000 The call was made using Vonage.
03:18:34.000 They were already kind of defunded.
03:18:36.000 Everything's Cricket Wireless inside the... Travis Barker, those commercials really got me.
03:18:41.000 Now what did he do?
03:18:41.000 He did Amped Mobile.
03:18:42.000 There's like Boost Mobile.
03:18:43.000 I don't know.
03:18:46.000 I think he had technical difficulties there.
03:18:48.000 Boy, they're having more technical difficulties in this show on the outside.
03:18:51.000 Crazy.
03:18:53.000 Can we play it?
03:18:55.000 I'm on national television, guys.
03:18:59.000 Somebody.
03:18:59.000 Please, my shark mouth is going to be noticed any time.
03:19:04.000 Too many people looking.
03:19:07.000 I don't like eyes on me.
03:19:08.000 I can only obfuscate it if I keep moving.
03:19:10.000 I'm sorry, your honor, the part where she said it looks like he's under the influence of a controlled substance has been deleted.
03:19:16.000 Do you know a lot about somebody who's under the influence of a controlled substance, ma'am?
03:19:20.000 Yes, yes I do.
03:19:21.000 I'm under the influence of loving you.
03:19:26.000 The love drug.
03:19:27.000 I wear magnums, bitch.
03:19:34.000 So forward!
03:19:35.000 I wouldn't earn it.
03:19:39.000 Sometimes you just gotta go fishing with dynamite.
03:19:44.000 Nuclear option.
03:19:45.000 Oh, you gotta do what you gotta do.
03:19:47.000 Is he walking off again?
03:19:48.000 It's like Joe Biden in the press conference.
03:19:51.000 He's not even putting a mask on.
03:19:53.000 He's just all willy-nilly about it.
03:19:56.000 What is happening?
03:19:59.000 Turtle shell ashtray mask.
03:20:01.000 By the way, that mask is useless.
03:20:02.000 Shell ashtray mask.
03:20:04.000 Yeah.
03:20:04.000 By the way, that mask is useless. He just fondled it.
03:20:11.000 Yeah.
03:20:12.000 Why does John King look like he just woke up from a nap?
03:20:21.000 Right, dude.
03:20:23.000 I love how he's giving us the play-by-play of what's happening in the courtroom.
03:20:29.000 And now the judge is gone.
03:20:30.000 He's got his hand on his mouth.
03:20:33.000 Right now there is a technical issue.
03:20:35.000 We are getting more information.
03:20:36.000 I know.
03:20:36.000 Hold.
03:20:37.000 Stay with us.
03:20:38.000 Is that frozen in the feed or is that judge just really still?
03:20:41.000 He's very still.
03:20:41.000 He's very still.
03:20:43.000 The blue thing on his... To avoid predators.
03:20:45.000 This is not uncommon for you to have this sort of procedural machinations process.
03:20:53.000 He saw the hammerhead shark mouth and went... That blue thing... Ah!
03:20:57.000 He's coming closer!
03:20:58.000 What are you doing?
03:20:59.000 They'll think I'm a sea anemone.
03:21:00.000 I'm just floating along.
03:21:02.000 I don't know if you noticed, that blue thing on his desk also sticks to a shower wall.
03:21:10.000 Why is she, where is she?
03:21:12.000 She's in Denver or something?
03:21:14.000 D.C.
03:21:14.000 says.
03:21:15.000 I don't know.
03:21:15.000 What, she's in front of a ski lodge?
03:21:17.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, she's... I'm here at the Ski-In Cafe, Ski-In, Ski-Out Cafe, and I know about as much as you, Mr. King.
03:21:25.000 I'll be honest, I heard about this trial and I want to be where people ski, if you get my drift.
03:21:32.000 The first thing that records is actually not your voice.
03:21:38.000 What's going on with the mug there?
03:21:40.000 So racist, Dave!
03:21:41.000 Terrible!
03:21:42.000 What?
03:21:42.000 She's back!
03:21:43.000 Dadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadad What is their 9-1-1 logo?
03:22:08.000 Their 9-1-1 outline on their shirt looks like a Six Flags logo.
03:22:11.000 that there's a person who used a color that still is a business what is their
03:22:15.000 9-1-1 logo their 9-1-1 outline on their shirt look like a Six Flags logo that's
03:22:26.000 actually a Gibbons family reunion jacket looks like balloons
03:22:35.000 9-1-1, this is the Houston department of 9, we can take that 4-3. Copy, 30 on the input. Copy, 10 for 10-4.
03:22:47.000 If I knew I was going to end up on trial, I would have been a little more peppy that day.
03:22:50.000 Could you back that up and run us through it?
03:22:54.000 Oh no.
03:22:55.000 Stop it.
03:22:55.000 You were fine air football once you backed the thing up.
03:22:59.000 Do you like Ja Rule?
03:23:00.000 it. Oh no. Stop it. You were fine after. I want your back to hang up. You like Ja Rule?
03:23:07.000 And you initially called us out to 330, correct? Correct.
03:23:11.000 Do you recall who was working in 330 that day? I don't specifically know. Well that's true
03:23:20.000 because I...
03:23:20.000 I actually have an answer.
03:23:21.000 It seems that you were working it.
03:23:23.000 It wasn't just at 3.30.
03:23:29.000 It looks like this is 24-7.
03:23:30.000 Impressive.
03:23:34.000 How do you do it?
03:23:39.000 Subsequent to that, there was a call from 3.20, correct?
03:23:43.000 Yes.
03:23:44.000 You heard the tape.
03:23:45.000 What was the substance of that call?
03:23:48.000 Again, you heard the tape.
03:23:50.000 What the hell?
03:23:52.000 Do I look handsome to you?
03:23:53.000 I went to great clips.
03:23:56.000 I don't feel it was great.
03:23:57.000 It was good.
03:23:58.000 I mean, I'm not upset about my hair, but it's not the best it's ever looked.
03:24:02.000 Usually I'm a super cuts guy.
03:24:04.000 They were back booked up.
03:24:07.000 I called.
03:24:08.000 I said I got a trial to do and nothing.
03:24:12.000 I bet you clear a squad.
03:24:25.000 But here's the problem, this is Dave as a juror as well, making these jokes in his head.
03:24:29.000 Yeah, it's a good thing I'm not a juror.
03:24:31.000 Yeah, it's a good thing I'm not a juror.
03:24:33.000 I'd be like, that hammerhead's trying to bang that witness!
03:24:38.000 And then he's going to eat the turtle!
03:24:42.000 That's in my dissenting opinion.
03:24:43.000 That's a hung jury.
03:24:45.000 It's like, I did not think the hammerhead did a very good job.
03:24:49.000 Yeah, this guy doesn't take any of this seriously and he keeps ordering more expensive lunches.
03:24:55.000 Come on guys, we can get Red Lobster in here.
03:24:59.000 You know what I'm talking about, huh?
03:25:01.000 Right witness!
03:25:03.000 Say, do you like Red Lobster?
03:25:04.000 Of course I love Red Lobster.
03:25:06.000 It's my favorite.
03:25:07.000 Yes.
03:25:08.000 All right.
03:25:09.000 So, if we can go back to 151, please.
03:25:13.000 Of course I love Red Lobster.
03:25:14.000 It's my favorite.
03:25:17.000 But it's not my birthday.
03:25:18.000 Why would you bring me there?
03:25:23.000 I celebrate their entire menu.
03:25:26.000 I love lobster season, shrimp season, I celebrate their entire seasonal catalog.
03:25:33.000 I don't even know how it makes sense that there's a season for an animal.
03:25:41.000 This is why trials take forever.
03:25:42.000 Where is he going with any of this?
03:25:44.000 How does this matter?
03:25:46.000 Can you just be like, yeah, is this you?
03:25:47.000 Is this what you said?
03:25:48.000 Alright, that's the evidence.
03:25:48.000 Here's the tape.
03:25:49.000 Next.
03:25:50.000 I think it's just because lawyers get paid by the hour.
03:25:53.000 I think that's true.
03:25:54.000 And he's on TV.
03:25:54.000 I'm not kidding.
03:25:55.000 This trial is on TV everywhere right now.
03:25:58.000 And they know that.
03:25:59.000 It's either this or William Shatner reading the name of your firm.
03:26:05.000 It's just, I mean, hopefully they're building the case.
03:26:09.000 Oh, this is the state prosecutors though, right?
03:26:11.000 So these are the people...
03:26:12.000 I know, but I'm hoping that they're going to build it to something interesting.
03:26:17.000 Were you the dispatch?
03:26:19.000 Yes.
03:26:19.000 Did you send them people?
03:26:20.000 Yes.
03:26:20.000 I could have covered this for 30 seconds.
03:26:22.000 Did the plate say it was George Floyd?
03:26:23.000 Yeah.
03:26:24.000 Did they say it was on drugs?
03:26:25.000 Yeah.
03:26:26.000 Thank you.
03:26:26.000 Okay, next!
03:26:29.000 John, what's your Netflix password?
03:26:32.000 That's what I thought it said too!
03:26:35.000 Why would you ask that?
03:26:36.000 Do you like to chill?
03:26:38.000 I do.
03:26:40.000 You work the night shift?
03:26:43.000 What's your biological, what's your circadian rhythm like?
03:26:46.000 What's the policy on personal 911 calls?
03:26:50.000 Is this a banana in my pocket?
03:26:52.000 My pants are about to peel.
03:26:56.000 One of those call logs is just him, the transcript.
03:26:59.000 What are you wearing?
03:27:01.000 Sorry, are you reporting a crime?
03:27:03.000 Not yet.
03:27:04.000 No, but there's gonna be.
03:27:07.000 Because if that ass don't get tapped, it should be illegal.
03:27:12.000 At the very least, gross injustice of the system.
03:27:17.000 Systematic issues.
03:27:20.000 Oh man.
03:27:20.000 If I don't get next to that thing, there is no justice.
03:27:27.000 And we'll make fun of the men too.
03:27:29.000 I'm going to throw in a lobster bib, but the thing I'm going to eat won't be dinner.
03:27:32.000 You know what I'm saying?
03:27:34.000 No, what are you talking about?
03:27:35.000 It means you.
03:27:36.000 I should never have asked.
03:27:41.000 Let's give him a ding for that.
03:27:42.000 I'm just good at it.
03:27:43.000 It's gonna be a mess is my point.
03:27:45.000 I think we're gonna need to go live to tape with Dave.
03:27:47.000 By the way, my system...
03:27:51.000 All his shots are pre-taped.
03:27:54.000 I'm in a different outfit every time you cut to me.
03:27:58.000 Great thoughts, David.
03:28:01.000 Very good.
03:28:02.000 Didn't he die three years ago?
03:28:04.000 Still using them.
03:28:05.000 We get his reactions.
03:28:07.000 Those are really good.
03:28:08.000 Just tape 12 things of me and have me killed.
03:28:11.000 I'm trying to see what we've got.
03:28:13.000 Oh, we've got the prosecutor's notice.
03:28:14.000 I guess theoretically, when you signed your contract, it's in perpetuity.
03:28:17.000 It is.
03:28:17.000 You could do really whatever.
03:28:18.000 Every once in a while, what do you think, Dave?
03:28:22.000 You pretty much just need me to make an incest joke and a 9-11 joke and you can just put it on a loop.
03:28:28.000 How long are they gonna do this?
03:28:34.000 They're going through live by live!
03:28:36.000 Well what does this mean?
03:28:37.000 Well what does this mean?
03:28:39.000 What does this mean?
03:28:39.000 What does this mean?
03:28:42.000 Could somebody turn up the air conditioning in here?
03:28:48.000 I'm waiting for it to get to 57.
03:28:49.000 Hold, please.
03:28:55.000 What a boring... I have watched Law & Order and never seen anything like this!
03:29:00.000 This is nothing like the movies.
03:29:02.000 I hope he's found guilty just because I have to sit through this.
03:29:06.000 Oh, now they're doing a juxtaposition.
03:29:08.000 There's more.
03:29:09.000 Oh, okay.
03:29:10.000 Let's see.
03:29:11.000 What is this?
03:29:13.000 Can you describe what's listed there?
03:29:16.000 What that line is about?
03:29:17.000 I believe I heard EMS code 2 for a mouth injury requested by the squad.
03:29:22.000 And so that's 320 calling in for that, correct?
03:29:26.000 Correct.
03:29:28.000 And so code 2 you told us earlier means what?
03:29:31.000 Non-emergent.
03:29:34.000 And then describe for us then what's depicted in the next line at 2021-35.
03:29:40.000 Squad 330 requests an EMS code 3.
03:29:43.000 Upgrade.
03:29:46.000 330, upgrading the call to code 3.
03:29:48.000 Is that a yes?
03:29:50.000 Yes.
03:29:51.000 Oh, look at that, you've got a pretty smile.
03:29:55.000 Your mouth really tells the story.
03:29:56.000 Just to be clear, when we talk about EMS, we might think of that as an ambulance, right?
03:30:00.000 Correct.
03:30:05.000 You should smile more.
03:30:07.000 You look good doing it.
03:30:10.000 Your smile makes me smile.
03:30:14.000 Speaking of emergent, I'm about to emerge from my slacks.
03:30:19.000 My pants have just been upgraded to an EM-3.
03:30:23.000 Also, I have a mouth injury I need you to check out.
03:30:27.000 Do my tonsils look swollen?
03:30:30.000 Are you trained in mouth-to-mouth resuscitation?
03:30:35.000 No!
03:30:37.000 No I'm not!
03:30:37.000 You don't need to involve the paramedics.
03:30:39.000 I gotta hit an ATM and I ain't talking about the bank.
03:30:42.000 You know what I'm saying?
03:30:43.000 You!
03:30:44.000 But I'm flexible.
03:30:45.000 I can do the back of the car or the ground.
03:30:51.000 I might look old, but I am stunningly, stunningly flexible.
03:30:58.000 I'm like a little Asian girl gymnast, but I'm an old white man.
03:31:01.000 So we're adding additional agency to that.
03:31:05.000 Now explain why, like is EMS different than fire?
03:31:08.000 Yes.
03:31:09.000 How so?
03:31:09.000 One's a fire.
03:31:10.000 One is EMS and one is fire, jackass.
03:31:16.000 North and then Hennepin County, Hennepin EMS.
03:31:21.000 And this is them writing in here.
03:31:24.000 Adding the additional fire-fire is clearly firefighters, but they are medically trained.
03:31:29.000 They can be anywhere in the city.
03:31:31.000 I went shopping at Men's Warehouse.
03:31:33.000 Would you say this outfit is quote-unquote fire?
03:31:40.000 I was told I was gonna like the way I look.
03:31:45.000 Do you like the way I look?
03:31:49.000 Sure, it's a little expensive, but I got that kind of coin.
03:31:52.000 It really is the only thing that matters.
03:31:54.000 You're the expert witness.
03:31:59.000 Can you believe I got two suits for a hundred dollars?
03:32:07.000 How about these shirts they threw in for free?
03:32:08.000 Yeah, they're pretty nice.
03:32:09.000 I got some cufflinks.
03:32:11.000 But the good thing is, with the shirts they gave me, I don't need them.
03:32:15.000 They have buttons, too.
03:32:17.000 There's really no need for the cufflinks whatsoever.
03:32:20.000 I got stopped going through the metal detector.
03:32:21.000 It took us eight tries before I realized I used the cufflinks.
03:32:28.000 It's because I had them in my pocket.
03:32:32.000 I forgot completely.
03:32:33.000 I'm like, my keys are in the dish.
03:32:36.000 So you're saying they didn't send a fire truck to kill a guy?
03:32:39.000 So fire would not be able to see that unless they had their own call.
03:32:44.000 And so the line above that is the multi-agency fire is adding fire.
03:32:50.000 All right, I just see this getting increasingly immature with Dave and I, so we should call it a back to the trial
03:32:55.000 tomorrow.
03:32:56.000 There he is. He's on the hunt.
03:32:59.000 So you're saying they didn't send a fire truck to kill a guy.
03:33:03.000 Yes.
03:33:05.000 Did they think they were more racist than the cops?
03:33:07.000 Is that why they sent them?
03:33:09.000 Was it a smoke signal?
03:33:12.000 I don't know about that, but I know that you stopped this hard.
03:33:17.000 I can't breathe.
03:33:19.000 Excuse me, is your last name Fentanyl?
03:33:21.000 Because I can't breathe.
03:33:26.000 Too soon.
03:33:27.000 Yeah, thank you.
03:33:29.000 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
03:33:31.000 I know what you're thinking.
03:33:32.000 You usually don't hang out with strangers, but I'm not that kind of guy.
03:33:38.000 Could you please stop flirting with a witness?
03:33:39.000 Shut up, Bane.
03:33:40.000 I'll do what I want.
03:33:44.000 Can you please stop playing Take My Breath Away?
03:33:47.000 Just the wrong theme song.
03:33:49.000 Just cuz he's from say anything Yeah
03:33:54.000 He doesn't really know what to go with.
03:33:59.000 He's just playing Top 40 Hip Hop.
03:34:01.000 You like this?
03:34:02.000 Whatever channels I... I heard that you do!
03:34:09.000 That's a commercial for debt cleansing.
03:34:14.000 Comedy helps us express our emotions.
03:34:17.000 All right, is there anything that I should wrap up here with a fact?
03:34:19.000 Well, and you let us know.
03:34:20.000 Well, you know what?
03:34:21.000 We'll take your chat here.
03:34:22.000 We'll go to Mug Club for people who are still here.
03:34:28.000 Let us know, too, in the comments section.
03:34:30.000 The best thing you can do, obviously, is comment.
03:34:31.000 Let us know if you want us to be covering this trial, or specifically, you want us just covering moments that we think will be If anything, not horribly uninteresting like this, because I know it's a historical moment, but I think people look back and they remember the highlights of, like, O.J.
03:34:47.000 They remember, like, the glove, and they don't remember Johnny Cochran listing his grocery list for nine hours.
03:34:52.000 That's true.
03:34:54.000 This isn't court TV, Stephen.
03:34:55.000 Right.
03:34:56.000 Can't build a network on 24-hour coverage.
03:34:57.000 They're really not going to highlight these highlights that he's using right now.
03:35:01.000 That is for sure.
03:35:02.000 That is the worst.
03:35:05.000 There's no reason to have this.
03:35:07.000 I'm trying to see if there's anything here that we also need to fact check.
03:35:10.000 No, it seems like we pretty much got all this right.
03:35:12.000 Just to be clear, Hennepin County, the Dr. Andrew Bakers, we were talking about this earlier, because the prosecution said they were going to bring out the lady who trained... Thompson.
03:35:22.000 Baker.
03:35:22.000 Dr. Thompson.
03:35:24.000 He's the one who conducted the only autopsy.
03:35:27.000 He's the only one who actually conducted an autopsy, and in that autopsy, some other information that I didn't give you earlier, there were blood gas tests showed an exceptionally high blood level of CO2 drugs that suppress breathing and cause CO2 to accumulate in the blood.
03:35:39.000 There were not only no asphyxiation, there were no bruises to the neck at all, which is surprising to me.
03:35:44.000 No hemorrhaging.
03:35:45.000 No evidence of restricted airflow.
03:35:46.000 No mechanical asphyxia.
03:35:48.000 Femoral blood draw showed high levels of fentanyl methamphetamine.
03:35:51.000 The state purposely contracted private examiners to contradict the findings.
03:35:56.000 By the way, he's the only one who actually conducted the official autopsy.
03:36:00.000 And yeah, and it showed what we already know, an enlarged heart with something called extradrenal paraganglioma.
03:36:06.000 That's a tumor that secretes adrenaline.
03:36:09.000 Adrenaline, yeah.
03:36:09.000 Which sounds like a bad combo when mixed with meth and fentanyl.
03:36:14.000 Yeah, it's no good.
03:36:15.000 I think you have a heart attack.
03:36:20.000 This is sad, and you know what the truth is?
03:36:22.000 They're banking on you not watching the boring stuff.
03:36:25.000 This is the issue, because I also understand, it is boring.
03:36:27.000 This is terrible, it's boring, and that guy is probably going to go home with her to the Red Lobster, and they'll have a wonderful time.
03:36:35.000 Guilty of being a player.
03:36:36.000 Those biscuits.
03:36:38.000 Literally those biscuits.
03:36:39.000 Cheddar Bay.
03:36:41.000 Don't hate the player, hate the busboys at Red Lobster because they dilly-dally.
03:36:48.000 I think the problem with this is the media is going to pull Just like before, there isn't going to be illumination for most people.
03:36:56.000 Now, a lot of people tuned in to watch the opening statements.
03:36:58.000 I think that's a good thing because many people had no idea.
03:37:01.000 If you watch CNN, you wouldn't know about the drugs in the system or the level to which he was intoxicated.
03:37:07.000 You wouldn't know about the actual autopsy and the report.
03:37:11.000 You wouldn't know about the toxicology report.
03:37:14.000 This was never told on mainstream media.
03:37:16.000 So that That might slip through and I'm really grateful that we have this platform so we're able to punch through when YouTube doesn't decide to remove it or Twitter ban me.
03:37:23.000 But keep in mind that this is going to be going on for a very, very long time and just like many of you remember certain moments from the OJ trial.
03:37:32.000 Or many of you remember certain, I'm trying to think, well really the OJ trial is the big one that I can think of.
03:37:36.000 The Menendez brothers?
03:37:38.000 Oh yeah, that would be one.
03:37:39.000 You have certain moments that you've forgotten a lot of what happened because these things went on for weeks.
03:37:44.000 And that's because the media handpicked what they wanted you to see.
03:37:47.000 And considering what we know right now about the media and their lackeys in Washington, D.C.
03:37:51.000 right now, They're going to handpick the most damning clips, and so I just expect it to be a repeat of the same.
03:37:57.000 They'll show the clip of him on the ground.
03:37:59.000 They won't show the 10-minute clip leading up where he's saying that he can't breathe.
03:38:03.000 They're going to show you probably some clips that show Floyd being a great family man and a member of the community.
03:38:09.000 They're not going to show you that he committed a crime against a member of the community that day.
03:38:13.000 They're not going to show you his violent rap sheet.
03:38:15.000 They're not going to show you the multiple times that he resisted arrest.
03:38:17.000 So what I am still worried about is this is going to be going on and people will think, Well, at least everything's out in the open now, and justice was served when the fact is most people aren't in the know, most people aren't paying attention, and the media is going to use this as an opportunity to lead you by the nose.
03:38:32.000 So, if you don't watch it with us, you need to be watching it.
03:38:36.000 At the very least, like I've always said, find some conservative websites, right-leaning websites, and find some left-leaning websites, and match them up.
03:38:42.000 You should always go one-to-one.
03:38:44.000 If you go to Fox News, then go to CNN.
03:38:46.000 if you go to whatever it is. So you go to our website, then go to whatever LGBTQ blog spot
03:38:53.000 that says we're Hitler. My point is just line them up left and right, left and right, so that at least
03:38:57.000 you know what both sides are saying on this story because you can't expect anyone to be honest with
03:39:03.000 you. And frankly, we don't have the fortitude to sit through just how boring this is, including
03:39:08.000 the judge with his Bane mask. He looks like Moby in a turtle shell Bane mask. Yeah, maybe get a
03:39:13.000 different mask because it's hurting your ears. Yes. What you didn't hear the person who's three
03:39:19.000 feet next to you maybe take out of a fishbowl.
03:39:21.000 I thought he was playing the dating game and they put him in a soundproof booth.
03:39:25.000 Yeah.
03:39:25.000 It's quiz show, buddy.
03:39:27.000 He's playing 21.
03:39:27.000 He's cheating.
03:39:28.000 All right, we're gonna go take your chat here at ladderwithcredit.com slash MugClub.
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03:39:33.000 That's what allows us to do this because this will be demonetized back then.
03:39:38.000 So that's how we keep it alive right now.
03:39:41.000 YouTube, thank you very much.
03:39:42.000 Not really.
03:39:42.000 We're gonna go take chat.