Dan Crenshaw joins us on the show to talk about his new show on HBO's Hard Knocks, and why he thinks the Cuomo family is the perfect example of celebrity privilege and everything that's wrong with this country.
00:01:02.000Hey, and I really appreciate the kind words from yesterday's show to everyone out there, but you can stop with them because I'm not a homosexual.
00:02:34.000And let me ask you, though, a question.
00:02:35.000Do you think that the Cuomo family is the perfect example of celebrity privilege and everything that is wrong with this country?
00:02:42.000Because we will be talking about Christina Cuomo, that is Chris Cuomo's wife, and of course we don't want to cross any boundaries because she has her own health blog, has nothing to do with the fact that she is Chris Cuomo's wife.
00:02:52.000So I want to make sure that within the bounds of...
00:03:02.000But I was so mad this morning that I was in my office watching it on CNN.
00:03:07.000My wife came in and they were saying, there was someone on CNN saying, do not, please, a medical professional, drink or inject Lysol or bleach as the president prescribed.
00:03:19.000And I told my wife, I said, babe, I love you.
00:03:24.000I am not mad with you or mad at you, but right now I really feel, and I mean this, urge to whip my mug at the television screen, so I think you should leave the room.
00:03:36.000And then I hit the heavy bag for like 30 minutes, and then, you know.
00:03:40.000Can I tell you, I was reading this this morning, and I had to stop reading, because I, you know, I started reading the reports when I was on the crapper.
00:04:26.000Because we're gonna need a stress reliever for you in the middle of that four hour mess.
00:04:30.000Hey, Gerald, can we do an acting class?
00:04:31.000I hope that is not FDA approved, because that's not doing shit!
00:04:35.000So, for those who don't know, who haven't been following, of course we'll get to this in a second, where they're blaming Donald Trump for even implying that you should be drinking or injecting Clorox Lysol.
00:04:48.000It'd be like if Donald Trump said, there are certain grains and cereals that they're finding right now might have antibodies, and they go, unlike the president, we do not believe that specifically General Mills products cure COVID-19.
00:07:44.000And the funny thing is, too, he has, again, when we've done these press briefings, he has experts there.
00:07:50.000Most of these quotes from Donald Trump's medical experts come from the briefings.
00:07:54.000Because he goes out, gives a general layout of what it is they'll be discussing, and then they make sure to fine-tune it, correct it, because anyone can get things wrong when you're dealing with them.
00:08:03.000What did I have to have you Google this morning?
00:08:07.000Glutathione, because I've read about this for a long time.
00:08:09.000You drink You take wine, you take NAC, we've talked about it, it's what they give you when you go to the hospital and you have some kind of acetaminophen toxicity.
00:08:17.000It's a medical tool that's used that you can also purchase as a supplement.
00:08:21.000Creates glutathione, but I've never actually heard it pronounced.
00:09:39.000I went to the Brooklyn Cultural Center, and I was one of the only white people, and I rode the L train, and I remember thinking, like, there's a very strong chance that I'm gonna get harmed.
00:10:49.000I wanted to throw this wonderful, girthy, hand-etched mug and see if it left a louder-with-crowder-shaped imprint on your forehead, like Marv with the heating iron.
00:13:30.000It is hard not to be very angry because because here's the thing is so many people are going about their lives when you talk about a single mom at home right now with kids and she turns on the news and she goes hey I'm gonna kind of figure out what's going on or she goes well you know maybe I don't believe what I heard on the news so I'm gonna go look at the article and then they dig to another article and they go to another article and that all says the same thing and then they go now I gotta go feed my kids breakfast and they walk away With this panic and this false idea of what's going on right there.
00:13:56.000And then they get told there's no leadership, nobody's paying attention.
00:13:59.000And they ignore the fact that this was a quote from a conference where a medical doctor and another medical doctor were talking to the president about possible solutions.
00:14:10.000And instead they go to CNN for Real News and they click through and they find themselves at Chris Cuomo's wife's blog selling healing crystals.
00:14:19.000The words Chris Cuomo will not leave my... I would never actually want to, in any way, attack somebody's wife.
00:14:25.000Christina Cuomo is a public figure who in no way is capitalizing on her husband's platform to sell dangerous... I don't think that's true, Steven.
00:14:31.000You attack Brian Stelter all the time.
00:14:40.000By the way, hey, while we're speaking about this, Sweden, you guys know this, Sweden, they didn't do a full lockdown and right now the capital, Stockholm, is expected to reach herd immunity in a few weeks.
00:14:51.000This is something that shouldn't be new to anybody.
00:14:52.000They even thought this was an idea originally in the UK that they thought they might want to do.
00:14:56.000The problem with herd immunity is you have to be all in, not one foot in, one foot out.
00:15:00.000But certainly, if you look at the numbers for Sweden, they're not worse than the rest of Europe.
00:15:04.000Certainly not as bad as the UK, or Belgium, or France.
00:15:09.000When people say, oh, the social distancing worked!
00:15:11.000Well, hold on a second, the numbers started declining before social distancing would have kicked in, and you would have to look to Sweden as well.
00:15:17.000The point is, there's a lot of information that we don't have.
00:15:20.000Something that we do have, definitively now, is the death rate is less than a tenth of what we were told, and that's what all the models were based on.
00:15:28.000Now, if you think that we should shut down the economy, that we should have 22 million jobless claims, as we've had now in the previous weeks.
00:15:35.000By the way, did you know one in five suicides is linked to unemployment?
00:15:39.000So if you think that's worthwhile, for a 0.5% death rate, Including 80-year-olds and people who are on CPAPs before they get COVID, then fine.
00:15:50.000But you have to make the decision based on the actual information, and it is remarkable to me that nobody is.
00:15:57.000And I will say this, we'll move on to it in a second, but honestly, it hurts my soul, my heart.
00:16:01.000I thought Donald Trump was a prick in the primaries, okay?
00:16:04.000But the character assassination that's taking place right now, it would be like us right now saying, hey, not saying that you shouldn't shut down, that you shouldn't social distance at all, not saying that you shouldn't wear masks, not saying that you shouldn't wash your hands, but maybe this has been overblown and someone goes out and says, Steven Crowder says don't wash your hands, and then everyone facts checks, man, something I didn't say.
00:16:36.000When every moment should be devoted to something important, Donald Trump has to field questions about, did you say that we should inject this?
00:17:30.000If I go there, there's enough ammo on me, because Bob Ross painted Muhammad, where they can jail me, and unlike in the United States, no one can defend me, because free speech isn't a thing.
00:17:39.000If I go to Europe, I can walk off the plane, be hauled off in zip ties in a paddy wagon, and you never see me again, because all of these countries that we want to love—until now, of course, I think the House of Cards has come down with socialized health care—I don't come back.
00:17:53.000And for me, that's enough to say, I hate your continent.
00:18:11.000Nobody is complaining about social distancing right now.
00:18:13.000Nobody is complaining about taking precautions, washing your hands, making sure that you're not visiting older people if you could potentially be sick or even just cutting off those visits.
00:18:41.000Belgium and Denmark are half the size of their country, and they have half the death rate, or not death rate per capita, but half the death number.
00:19:56.000Is if you went to an embassy for one of these countries that has these laws, you could be arrested at the embassy inside of the country that you're in.
00:20:04.000So, you know, all these invitations we get from young Turks to go speak at the UK embassy.
00:20:12.000There's something more sinister afoot.
00:20:14.000Okay, so while we're talking about this and the unemployment and the shutdown of the economy, and the economy, by the way, not everything is shut down.
00:20:21.000It just comes down to what you consider essential.
00:20:58.000We're not going back to working 70 hour weeks just so that we could put food on the table and not even feel any sort of semblance of security in our lives.
00:21:09.000First off, she looks like the blonde musician Muppet had dyed her hair.
00:21:19.000The up angle for cameras is also not very flattering.
00:21:22.000And I know it's ad hominem, but it's okay just because I have disdain for her.
00:22:34.000I would be miserable if I didn't work at all.
00:22:36.000Now, you do need to frame in your life balance with work and your personal life, your family, of course.
00:22:40.000But if you want to talk about being out of touch, think about this for a second.
00:22:44.000Donald Trump, the man who was raised effectively a billionaire, okay, has never gone a day in his life without being in the lap of luxury, has more in common with the average working-class American than AOC from Westchester.
00:23:00.000I believe that may be wrong, but I think I feel like saying it.
00:24:00.000Actually, no, it probably would be under six figures.
00:24:01.000I don't know why I said it didn't matter.
00:24:02.000It's just because I'm angry, so my thoughts are fragmented.
00:24:06.000But one of the guys, so their dad, I played hockey with the two sons, their dad killed himself because he lost his job.
00:24:13.000And there's actually, there's the Eaton Center, for people in Montreal who know this, they call it, I believe they call it like the second city, because there's a whole underground city in Montreal.
00:24:21.000Where you can literally never come above ground, and it goes like four or five floors deep.
00:24:37.000I would get in a subway, I would get to downtown Montreal, like going from Brooklyn to Manhattan, and I could go anywhere that I needed to in all of Montreal without popping my head above ground.
00:24:48.000And there was a guy, so when you think about the subterranean, right, like a food court in the Eaton Center.
00:24:52.000So you're looking down and you're looking down about four stories, maybe five stories.
00:24:56.000It almost looks like that scene, I think they shot a scene in Blade Runner in Montreal, if I'm not mistaken.
00:25:23.000Because he knew that he was getting laid off, and then they looked into it, and he was trying to see what his insurance would cover.
00:25:28.000He had tried to apply for other jobs, and then I think it was on the fourth or fifth day, he just tipped right over.
00:25:33.000And I say that because that's anecdotal, but statistically, that is verifiable, that suicides increase with unemployment.
00:25:41.000I go to a therapist, I go to an executive and a sports psychologist, and she's talked about how this has been very, very difficult for a lot of people.
00:25:47.000Her clientele is growing rapidly because people are going out of their minds.
00:25:52.000To act like people who believe in reopening the economy within this This multi-phase program, Don't Care About Lives Lost, is disingenuous, and it's also to throw people off the scent that THEY will create more of a death toll.
00:26:11.000Can you imagine how stressed people are right now that are just trying to get by, saying, I can make it another week, I can't make it another month?
00:26:26.000And then the most ridiculous part about it is, you know, it's never been, hey, ignore the health, only focus on the economy.
00:26:32.000But the opposite argument is being made every day like the AOC is making, which is, or like what Rachel Maddow said, we can't think about reopening, we never should open, anyone talks about opening, wants people to die, is excited for people to die, when that's not the case.
00:26:46.000The case is, it is a thorny mess and we do need to have specific ways that we open parts of the country or parts of the economy.
00:26:51.000And she's in a municipality where they have the subway!
00:27:31.000He goes, yeah, these people are called socialists, and the United States are called Democrats.
00:27:37.000And I remember hearing about after Columbine and for a long time hearing about guns.
00:27:42.000Never fired a firearm until I was 20 years old because there was like one person who had a magical mystery handgun of death that was in a closet that was like a World War II relic.
00:27:51.000But do you know how you know that the left is hypocritical?
00:27:54.000There is one state One state that I know of, okay, where you can go and legally purchase a firearm without any kind of restriction at that point.
00:28:04.000You don't need a permit, and as long as you pass that background check as you would pass in any other state, you can walk out, carry it open or concealed forevermore.
00:28:11.000And the same state also doesn't have sales tax on items like clothing and a lot of luxury items.
00:28:48.000I don't have any tax on these crappy carpenter jeans at Old Navy where no two pairs with the same waist size resemble each other in any way?
00:29:15.000Oh, by the way, we know that many of you are affected, of course, during this quarantine, which I think is not going to be as long-lived for everybody as people thought.
00:29:23.000So there's a lot of silver lining there.
00:29:25.000And hopefully when I'm mad, you know, I entertain you.
00:29:27.000I deal with the pain so you don't have to.
00:29:30.000But we do want to help people who are inconvenienced, and so I think it's time to go
00:29:33.000to our traffic report with our senior traffic correspondent, Tommy Finnegan.
00:29:37.000All right, Thomas Finnegan, are you there, sir?
00:29:54.000Well, after I crash-landed my helicopter, I was challenged to a duel by the local tribe's leader, who goes by the name of... I have successfully usurped his authority.
00:30:06.000Okay, but do we have any idea what's going to be affecting people's morning commute?
00:30:11.000No news on that, but I do have a new wife, and her name is Okay, well I guess we wish you the best, Thomas Finnegan.
00:32:51.000So, this morning everywhere on CNN, and I'm sure we'll even see it as we go to... Oh my gosh, what is happening on CNN right now?
00:32:58.000The lady couldn't just, like, pick up her stuff?
00:33:00.000It's like Sadness Behar from Tybee Island.
00:33:03.000No, no, no, that's Florence from Florence and the Machine.
00:33:05.000She's become a mayor since her career collapsed.
00:33:08.000If you're going to be on national television, and I mean I use national television in the loosest sense of the word, she must just not be concerned with putting away cardboard boxes because of viewership.
00:33:31.000Okay, so this morning on CNN, they had medical experts saying, do not in any form drink bleach or Lysol or inject it directly into the body according to President Donald Trump's directions.
00:33:58.000And you tell me if you see it from the President Trump press briefer last night where he talked about how sunlight, UV rays kill COVID.
00:34:05.000He talked about which sanitization products work and then was turning to, as you'll see, medical experts regarding some experimentation that they might be doing.
00:34:14.000You tell me if this sounds like inject yourself with Lysol.
00:34:17.000Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light.
00:36:50.000Now it's not Clorox, it's not bleach, it's not Lysol, but you are putting something in your body that kills things, and that's why people get really sick.
00:36:58.000This idea that, hey, is there some kind of a chemical that we could maybe extract to clean out the lungs, which is what he's talking about.
00:38:26.000And by the way, they are constantly researching light therapy, and in some cases it helps, in some cases it doesn't.
00:38:34.000That's not quackery, we'll get to that in a second.
00:38:37.000They use it in incubators, infrared light therapy.
00:38:41.000It is used in the medical... I don't know if that's what they're doing, but I guarantee you right now as they explore all these options, they're probably looking into approved non-invasive therapies if they could potentially help.
00:38:51.000Especially when you consider that UV and infrared light are both a part of the rays that you feel when you go out into the sun.
00:38:57.000And there is a way to harness this with it being beneficial and not harmful.
00:39:02.000Does it benefit someone if they have coronavirus?
00:40:12.000This lady who hates Donald Trump, who tried to divorce him, who has a history of mental health disorders, who didn't seem to suffer any symptoms herself, and said she drank it because Donald Trump told us to, and her husband is an engineer, drops dead immediately.
00:40:47.000Which brings us to Christopher Cuomo's wife, Christina Cuomo.
00:40:51.000Now, again, I want to be really clear, none of us would ever just attack someone's wife because they are a public figure, that wouldn't be right, it would be uncorrect, it would be crossing a line.
00:40:59.000But Christina Cuomo, so you can forget about Chris Cuomo for a second here, Christina Cuomo is a lifestyle blogger and health advocate.
00:44:09.000So she's getting on these energy pads and she's talking about these medicines and barks that are not proven at all, by the way, and advocating it as a regimen.
00:44:19.000You cannot find Donald Trump advocating two people, without the care, under the supervision of a doctor, advocating completely unproven methods.
00:44:28.000The closest thing that you can find, and the media was furious about, including Christopher Cuomo, by the way, was Donald Trump saying, if you're looking at a ventilator, ask your doctor.
00:46:01.000Vitamin C Intravenously, there is some information that shows that it can benefit viruses, and you can't take enough of it orally, right?
00:46:10.000Your body doesn't actually use it, you excrete it.
00:46:11.000So, I don't want to say that everything she's saying is completely unproven, but if we are using the standard that they are trying to use with President Donald Trump or any conservative, then absolutely you would have to throw this out along with magnolia bark or whatever else the hell it is that she's talking about, like electric pads.
00:46:25.000I don't even know what half the stuff is.
00:46:46.000He's talking to a doctor, asking, are you going to be doing these kinds of studies to check into these kinds of therapies based on the fact that we know that there are these analogies outside the body?
00:46:58.000Is there some way for us to figure this out?
00:47:02.000Also, I've seen anecdotal evidence and studies about this drug.
00:47:06.000I wonder if you're at the very end of your rope and you're about to be put on a ventilator because you can't breathe, is it possible for a doctor to try this?
00:47:13.000And he stands to gain nothing as opposed to Christopher Cuomo's wife who wants to sell you bed spreads.
00:47:18.000So I just want to be really clear here.
00:47:36.000So she says that vitamin C, an IV virus, so she goes through magnolia bark, electromagnetic pads, Clorox, baths, all the crystals are sold on the website.
00:47:45.000You know, all the stuff that doesn't really work.
00:47:46.000Like, unilaterally, there are some supplements that work.
00:48:59.000Representative Dan Crenshaw, I know, will be probably about 10 minutes late.
00:49:03.000And before that, we have one more story about Osama bin Laden, actually, who had an assassination attempt on Obama to make Biden president.
00:50:36.000I wasn't a fan of Barack Obama, but he's our sitting president.
00:50:38.000Of course I would defend him because I'm Team America, especially when compared to, you know, terrorists.
00:50:43.000But the reason that Osama bin Laden wanted to assassinate Obama is gut-bustingly funny because he thought that, bring that back up, Joe Biden was so ill-equipped To be president that it would thrust the American public into chaos.
00:50:59.000So when people talk about the Russians getting $3,000 on Facebook ads, you know, for using nasty words about Hillary Clinton, just think about this for a second.
00:51:07.000Public enemy number one, Osama bin Laden was going to pop his head out of his cave to try and take out our president just because he was so supremely confident Joe Biden is out of his mind.
00:51:37.000I'm not a Muslim, but I think I might have been wrong about all of this because it seems like Osama Bin Laden was clairvoyant.
00:51:43.000So, maybe he was just communicating with demons, you know, like Muhammad thought with Satan, and then they were like, no, no, that's Gabriel.
00:51:51.000So maybe that's what's happening with Osama Bin Laden, but maybe back then he saw vision, or maybe in his hat with like the Islamic terrorist seer stones.
00:51:59.000So maybe he saw back then what we see now, like this interaction.
00:53:37.000And since they just want to basically wreak chaos on the American public, what better way than to just... I mean, you don't even need to create an ad set, like on Twitter or Facebook.
00:55:02.000So they can't change that ticker on the right, even though it said 50,000 deaths on the bottom, until the guy who actually has vinyl scorecard flips it over and someone with a megaphone says, 50,000!
00:55:13.000And the boy goes, oh boy, extra, extra!
00:55:17.000And runs up to Anderson Cooper and he pats him on the butt and he goes, bump it to 50,000, Anderson!
00:56:45.000For people who haven't seen it, Mr. Crenshaw, I do want to play a clip, because we've had you on the show quite a bit, but oh my gosh, I think, I'm not a fan of Bill Maher, maybe you two have a friendly relationship, but I don't know, I can't, if you don't have anything nice to say...
00:57:40.000Please get this book to number one, just because I want you to go back on.
00:57:43.000So I've been present and known quite a few people who've been there for Bill Maher's tapings, and a lot of it, like, there's a crowd animator at most late night shows, and then at Bill Maher, it's like, you better clap, or you are out of here.
00:59:20.000I think he's wrong on almost everything he says, but at least he's willing to debate it and bring somebody like me on and present his facts the best way he can and allow me to present mine.
00:59:34.000Yes, with that being said, I think that you have a skewed view because, right, this was run in its entirety, and again, often what happens in his studio is he cuts the parts that he doesn't like.
00:59:46.000We've actually only ever edited, in the history of this show, two interviews, and that was by—one was by request, and the other one was because the guy was on drugs and didn't remember it, and we thought, well, it wouldn't be fair to run this.
01:00:56.000Like they say, Hey, we're going to talk about this stuff, but I can tell you what our questions are, or I can tell you what angle we're coming at it from.
01:01:02.000We're going to generally tell you what we're talking about.
01:01:04.000So, um, you know, even if they hadn't told me that.
01:01:07.000Of course I know it's going to be about Trump having blood on his hands, right?
01:03:28.000I don't really believe anybody that's just, uh, honestly, if they, if they are genuine, I, all I see is the outcome, right?
01:03:34.000So if you're genuinely good at debate and you've anticipated counter-arguments, um, and you've got a list of facts, then clearly you've prepared.
01:03:43.000Now, maybe you memorized it faster than, than somebody else said.
01:03:46.000Maybe it only took you 30 minutes, right?
01:03:48.000Maybe you do this so often that really you didn't prepare.
01:03:51.000Um, there's plenty of heated debates that I go into that I honestly don't prepare for.
01:03:56.000But that doesn't mean I haven't been preparing for years.
01:04:08.000I think young people who look up to you, and there are a lot of people who look up to you, sometimes people think like, oh, my hero or someone I admire.
01:04:34.000And, you know, chapter two is called, Who is Your Hero?
01:04:37.000And it's a question, and you would answer it, Dan Crenshaw.
01:04:42.000And Bill Maher would answer, well, he would scratch out hero and write daddy.
01:04:45.000Here's the thing, you have to understand, I never, and my lawyer, half-Asian lawyer Bill Richman has a question for you, but I never made it past the screener with Bill Maher.
01:04:57.000I spoke on the phone with the screener and they asked me, I remember this was when the Russia thing was going on.
01:05:03.000And I said, well, what do you want to talk about?
01:05:06.000And they said, well, you have to... I said, well, I just saw Beauty and the Beast last night, and I thought it was pretty funny that in colonial France they had black royalty and powdered wig and white face, like if we're talking about hashtag Oscars so white, you know, can't you chalk this up as a win?
01:05:20.000And she goes, so you want to come on a political show and talk about Beauty and the Beast?
01:05:24.000I said, No, I just told you what pissed me off yesterday.
01:05:46.000No, but so So yeah, I do think preparation support.
01:05:50.000I do talk about that in my book quite a bit.
01:05:52.000And in a serious way, I did bring up that chapter called who is your hero, because you have to be when you look up to people, it shouldn't be a person, somebody will always disappoint you.
01:06:02.000And, but you should look up to attributes.
01:06:04.000And you should, you know, my my debate, the guy that I look up to as as a debater, who's always anticipating the arguments and knows how to frame the argument Gallagher, you probably guess.
01:07:42.000That's something that people often miss.
01:07:43.000And I will say, listen, I don't consider myself a skilled debater at all, but the one thing that I've always talked about, and this was a book that I pitched, funny enough, to conservative publishers back when I was at Fox News.
01:07:54.000And they said, this isn't going to work.
01:07:55.000The Obama blueprint was a big book, so if you have a doomsday Obama thing, that'll sell.
01:07:59.000But this won't work to try and convince people to your way of thinking, and I always Listen, this was before Social Justice Warrior was a term, this was before Snowflake was a term, so I referred to them as sort of, I think I referred to them as modern leftist progressives and the American idiots, meaning the sort of Green Day used that against conservatives, and I meant American idiots, people who are liberal by default.
01:08:19.000People who watch TV, who tune into CNN, who every radio show they listen to, every band they like tells them to be left-wing.
01:08:24.000And I said there are two different approaches.
01:08:26.000You need to change the mind of these people, these sort of ignorant Americans who've taken this position by default.
01:08:31.000And that's where you take an approach, use the Socratic method, have them walk through their own arguments.
01:08:56.000Yeah, well, because the entire you're not going to convince Bill on his show to see your way that that's not the purpose of the show.
01:09:03.000The purpose is to is to have a debate for an audience and convince other people that way.
01:09:09.000What you do with change your mind is really great.
01:09:11.000And I love that you put a lot of preparation into it.
01:09:13.000You have to because you have to anticipate every angle that somebody is going to come from, right, every personal experience that they might bring up.
01:09:20.000And, and I think you do a good job of anticipating that it also helps when You're trying to support an argument that, frankly, you've got a lot of evidence on your side for.
01:09:29.000And I think it's important to have those because I guarantee you that if Bill Maher and I were to sit down and talk, for example, when we've had mayors in the show, Naomi Wolf, it's more hostile in the sense that when someone is coming on saying I'm wrong, well, listen, I'm going to match the intensity.
01:09:42.000So it's important for me, for people to see me speaking in a very civil, respectful way and trying to convince people, bring them to my way of thinking so they understand the difference between that and handling what is effectively a character assault.
01:09:54.000Because I'm not always going to be meek.
01:09:57.000My half-Asian lawyer, did you have a question there?
01:10:00.000So Representative, thanks so much for being on the show.
01:10:03.000One of the questions I have right now is we know that there's a lot of different counties and states that are opening, taking some measured approaches to try and get people back to work, allow the economy to partially restart.
01:10:12.000You know, are there any particular thoughts you have about those counties and is there any part about your book Fortitude that you think speaks to what's going on right now and the kind of debates we're having over the controversial topic of letting some people safely go back to work?
01:10:28.000So what I talk about a lot in the book, it's a prevalent theme throughout, which is personal responsibility, owning your own destiny.
01:10:36.000And, and, and I make a very strong argument against this idea of victimhood culture, where you actually remove agency from people's ability, or from people and remove their ability to control their own lives.
01:10:49.000When you tell somebody you're a victim, that's effectively what you're doing, you're disempowering them.
01:10:54.000This is pretty applicable to how we open up our society.
01:10:57.000We have to trust the American people to make the right decisions, to live with this sense of duty.
01:11:03.000Another thing I talk about in the book is the fact that the government's job is to protect your rights, but there is an exchange there, an exchange of citizenship, an exchange to To live responsibly and to live dutifully and morally.
01:12:32.000One, talking about the Harvard that took the money but returned it, and the Shake Shacks that took the money but returned it.
01:12:39.000If you're a business out there whose revenue hasn't really changed, shame on you for taking the small business loans that we're giving out.
01:12:47.000It's very hard, from a policy perspective, to put proper limits on those.
01:12:51.000It's extremely difficult, because as soon as you do, you start making it even harder for the smaller businesses.
01:12:57.000You know, I think we also understand that the problem becomes, like John Stossel has talked about this, he had some kind of a federal grant subsidy where his home built on stilts effectively in the ocean washed away like two times.
01:13:08.000He goes, I know that some people say I'm a hypocrite for taking the state funding, but I'd be an idiot not to.
01:13:15.000And there is a problem where if small businesses are still even operating on an honest profit margin, well, if they don't take the loans that are available, they're going to be competing with bigger businesses that are, and they'll fall further behind.
01:13:26.000Yeah, and totally get it, but un-American and they should be ashamed of themselves.
01:13:32.000So when I got out of the military, I read about this in my book too, when I got out of the military, and this feeds into the victimhood culture and there's a reason why.
01:13:39.000When I got out of the military, I was eligible for Social Security Disability Insurance.
01:13:43.000They actually promoted it in the military.
01:13:46.000Like, hey, not only are you getting medically retired because you're injured or something's wrong with you, but as soon as you get out, Oh.
01:15:26.000I could have, and by economic sense and by the straight economic sense that you're describing and that a lot of businesses are using to justify taking money that they don't need, I could have taken that.
01:15:37.000I refuse because that's not who I want to be.
01:15:39.000And this goes into the conversation about who your heroes are and what we should applaud in America.
01:15:45.000I was more so just pointing out the issue that in this case it's appropriate because the government stepped in and said, we're going to effectively put you out of business.
01:15:52.000They said, don't be a patron of this business anymore.
01:15:57.000Yeah, but my point is that this is what ends up happening when the government, let's say more so, it would be more appropriate with the stimulus under the Obama-era presidency, where you're effectively picking winners and losers.
01:16:08.000Then everyone says, well, if I have to compete, it becomes like the steroid argument, and it's not a good thing.
01:16:12.000That's why we just should have government involved as little as possible.
01:16:17.000Regarding your book Fortitude, which is available everywhere books are sold, if you can find a bookstore anymore, but certainly digitally on Amazon.
01:16:24.000You talk about in the book like how to find strength and fortitude and obviously it's reminiscent of Jocko quite a bit who's been on the show and I think it's a message that's very much needed.
01:16:32.000How would you respond to this claim that's going out quite a bit that Generation Z believe they've lived their entire lives In crisis.
01:16:58.000The best reference for this phenomenon with Gen Z is Jonathan Haidt's book, The Coddling of the American Mind.
01:17:04.000I reference that book quite a bit in my book.
01:17:07.000My book is a set of solutions to the problem.
01:17:09.000I'm not diagnosing the problem itself.
01:17:11.000I reference good authors that have done so, and The Coddling of the American Mind, I think, is the premier place to look if you're looking for why Gen Z is that way.
01:17:36.000And, you know, the coddling that has occurred both on campuses and in the household.
01:17:41.000You know, there's good data on this to show that Gen Z was only allowed to leave the house to go to a friend's house much later in life than, say, even Millennials or Or Gen Xers.
01:17:51.000And really quickly, if I can say too, what's really scary though is they have a legitimate gripe that they're entering a more competitive workforce than previous generations.
01:18:01.000Like that is something that now it is hyper-specialized.
01:18:03.000So you have a generation, and I would say more so Millennials and Generation Z. It seems like they might actually be a little bit better, some of the stats that we're seeing.
01:18:10.000But they are being coddled growing up and then being thrust into a hyper-competitive, exponentially evolving workplace.
01:18:19.000And that That seems like a recipe for disaster.
01:18:21.000Because there is validity to them going, like, I don't know how I'm going to do this.
01:18:25.000Yeah, and there is validity, just like when the millennials have complaints about basically graduating into a financial crisis.
01:18:58.000There are pressures that we do have to, I think, acknowledge.
01:19:02.000And Gen Z, I think we have to acknowledge, too, that yes, they are starting their early careers right now in the midst of this crisis.
01:19:10.000I do think we bounce back from this rather quickly, and so that would be my message of hope to them.
01:19:15.000Yeah, I mean, message of hope is imagine France surrendering and going like, oh, pretty much all of Europe is lost except for one guy, Churchill, putting up a fight, and we have a choice between communism or fascism.
01:19:26.000I think that probably would be a little bit scarier than a According to Cuomo, the highest estimate now is a 0.5% death rate.
01:19:34.000Every life lost matters, but it's not the depth of despair and hopelessness for every Generation Z American.
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01:21:12.000This one will probably go to Bill, but I think I know the answer.
01:21:15.000So there's a very, very high standard when it comes to going after new sources.
01:21:21.000As you can imagine, they've lobbied a long time to make sure that the precedent is such that unless you are intentionally or maliciously going after someone with fake information, which again requires you to have a mindset, but certainly there's a pattern.
01:21:36.000A lot of what you look at for intent and maliciousness It's what we call mens rea or the mind and if you have done enough acts then you may be able to interpret that this is mens rea.
01:22:27.000I think the overarching idea is that Donald Trump wants to kill Americans.
01:22:33.000When it's repealing the Obamacare laws that weren't really working, they're saying that when he wants to reopen the economy in a three- or four-phase program.
01:22:41.000They say it... I mean, take your pick.
01:22:44.000When he has a meeting with Kim Jong-un, they're always like, he doesn't care about the lives of Americans.
01:22:50.000And I think when you look at, again, his comments and when he tries to... The reason he's doing the press briefings is because he wants to speak directly to the American people, right?
01:22:57.000And when he does that, he tends to actually register better with the American people.
01:23:02.000When Cortez is speaking directly from her webcam, people go, ugh, someone primary her.
01:23:08.000So the idea that Donald Trump and, of course, all conservatives—be aware, by the way, every attack on Donald Trump, even if you didn't support him like me in the primaries, I had someone else—an attack on him is really an attack by proxy on all conservatives.
01:23:21.000That's what they're trying to do right now.
01:23:22.000They're trying to say, Republicans, if it weren't Donald Trump, if it were Rand Paul, if it were Carly Fiorina, if it were Ted Cruz, they'd be saying the same thing.
01:23:30.000Unless you support our policy like making sure the stimulus sends money to Planned Parenthood.
01:23:34.000So that to me is really probably the worst because, listen, I even think I say kind of tongue-in-cheek when I say why don't you care about the lives lost by keeping the economy shut down because one in five suicides are related to unemployment.
01:23:47.000I don't think that they want Americans to die.
01:23:50.000I just think they're being disingenuous and their policies will absolutely, verifiably result in more deaths than a systematic opening of the economy in a responsibly phased program.
01:23:59.000Yeah, I would say Russia real quick, just because basically spending essentially billions of dollars trying to undermine his presidency from the get-go so that everything he says later is through the lens of a puppet president who's illegitimate, who's being controlled by somebody else.
01:24:47.000We are going to see you Monday morning with more Good Morning Mug Club and then of course shows every night in the live stream on Thursday with a press briefing followed by live fact-checking of CNN.