On this week's episode of Crowder Bits and Mug Club, we discuss the Democratic National Convention post-convention bounce, the recent shooting of a black man by a white police officer, and much, much more!
00:02:46.000My question of the day to everyone out there is, have you noticed that the goalposts, and we're going to be getting into a couple of police shootings, have moved now?
00:02:55.000As far as it used to be unarmed black men to now it's just black men with a weapon that's slightly less effective than the police officers.
00:05:25.000You can't do it yourself, so you need this transcendent political figure to save you, which is Joe Biden, who's been in government for 64 years.
00:08:50.000You said we were going to talk about it later!
00:08:51.000I didn't say we were going to talk about it later, you lie!
00:08:53.000All right, let's go to this right now.
00:08:54.000Of course, there have been riots in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and I want to warn you, there will be some graphic content today.
00:08:58.000So again, the question of the day is, when do you think that police are justified in using lethal force?
00:09:02.000Does the perpetrator have to be aiming a gun at the... which I guess doesn't matter, because it happened in Georgia, and people are like, well, But it was dark, though, so he probably wouldn't have hit him in the face.
00:10:51.000That's not a guy who is just passionate, like, I was just getting my registration!
00:10:55.000Officer, I was trying to put it in neutral, because that could be a safety hazard for your sorry white ass.
00:11:01.000Clearly there's context, because all of the officers already had their guns out before the guy was walking around the car, back into his car.
00:12:03.000He didn't say one word in support of police officers who felt that their life was in danger and a man was trying to get into his car to grab something.
00:12:09.000He didn't say one word to say let's wait for the facts, let's make sure we get everything lined up first.
00:12:14.000These cops are trying Well, the good thing is we actually do have some facts.
00:12:17.000Let's bring up these facts here from the county man, Blake, actually, in question, who's number one trend on Twitter right now.
00:12:21.000What you won't see is he had a warrant out for his arrest, he was a sex offender, and had already assaulted officers and resisted arrest after pulling a gun in a bar in 2015.
00:12:30.000My guess is that probably came up if they ran his plates or they had him pulled aside, because that right away would show up when you run someone's registration, right?
00:12:38.000When you run their plates, you would see, Well, this is a serial time offender.
00:13:29.000Of course it's sad when someone loses their life, especially in front of their children.
00:13:33.000It's more sad for those children that that man made horrible decisions, including putting the officers in a situation where they believe their life was in jeopardy.
00:13:49.000I know that people will say, it's not that one life matters more than the other, it's that you have made decisions and taken actions that lead you closer to forfeiting your right to live.
00:13:57.000The closer you get to the line of forcing somebody else to protect their life, whether you mean to take it from them or not, You are no longer in the right.
00:14:07.000There is a scale there and you have to go, alright, hold on a second, sex offender, okay, you have a history of violence, okay, you're not complying, okay, you're reaching into a car, okay, they can't even, what are they supposed to do at this point?
00:14:19.000They're supposed to wait until you turn around and shoot one of the officers dead and then pull their guns, maybe defend their life?
00:15:46.000Going back to... I'd read that he had died.
00:15:48.000Okay, so the last report that I heard, unless something came out very early this morning, he was in serious condition in the hospital, was not dead.
00:16:17.000In other words, you are trying to rationalize decisions as a police officer, and you're taught to do that, to de-escalate.
00:16:21.000Maybe someone is doing this where you're supposed to give the benefit of the doubt versus where you have to take control of protecting your own life at that point.
00:16:28.000And how you watch the back of other officers.
00:16:30.000I cannot think of a scenario where a guy is resisting.
00:16:33.000You're pulling at his tank top and reaching.
00:16:35.000That's not a guy who's reaching in for his insurance.
00:16:36.000That's not a guy who's reaching in for a temporary license.
00:16:38.000That's not a guy who's reaching in to take it out of neutral.
00:16:41.000That is a guy with a purpose who is lunging into a car and even maybe he was maybe like George Floyd.
00:16:46.000He was on drugs and out of his mind that could lead to a cardiac arrest.
00:17:00.000And if you can't use force here in any way, like, you just can't use force at all.
00:17:03.000We've talked about this a number of times, that every time that you do something like this, like, you ruin an officer's life who didn't do anything wrong, the governor doesn't come out and support you, what does that do, again, to the morale of officers?
00:17:12.000What does it do the next time that they pull?
00:17:14.000If they hesitate the next time, they could die.
00:17:44.000I said, I don't have any evidence right now.
00:17:46.000I bet you there's a rap sheet there that he was going to go away for a long time because that's where you see scenarios that people violently resist officers.
00:17:53.000And by the way, it happens all the time.
00:17:56.000If someone has a rap sheet, they do not want to go back to the clink.
00:17:59.000They're not going to willingly get into the back of the paddy wagon.
00:18:01.000That's where all of a sudden, claustrophobia appears.
00:20:40.000I'm sorry, what do you think is, again, what could be any justifiable scenario in that case where you're refusing to comply, you refuse to get down on the ground, tasers aren't working, and you're walking with a knife like it's a part of your daily checklist like I am with Trader Joe's and getting toucan O's.
00:21:49.000They didn't shoot him for about, what, 150 feet of walking behind him, telling him to get on the ground, trying to block him, tasering him.
00:21:57.000The minute that he started to put somebody else's life in danger, because as soon as he gets in that store and he has a knife to the throat of the clerk, it's a hostage situation.
00:22:23.000The people in that store should not have their life put in jeopardy because you don't like a man with a knife being shot by the police.
00:22:31.000We've moved the goalposts from unarmed black men, and by the way, I saw this on CNN, both CNN and Young Turks, but I repeat myself.
00:22:38.000I saw them say, uh, they were refuting something Tucker Carlson said where he said, uh, last year it was eight unarmed black men, which was a different stat because I think we've used the stat nine, but I believe it's nine.
00:22:47.000He said eight unarmed black men were shot by police officers and they went back to see them in Young Turks.
00:24:24.000By the way, in case you're wondering what could happen to an officer if they don't take measures to protect their lives or the lives of civilians, I believe that we have a montage here of the officers who, what happens if someone does reach for a glove, reach in their glove box, or someone does go into a car, let alone a knife.
00:24:39.000This last one I almost feel like should just be discarded.
00:24:42.000Unfortunately, there are going to be protests, but it's very, very common that officers have to make split
00:25:28.000Okay, but there also is a discrepancy, right?
00:25:30.000There's a huge chasm in someone who is hired to enforce the law, someone who is acquiescent, someone who is beholden to the laws, and someone who is proactively breaking the law.
00:25:41.000If this cop says, well, I can't just murder in cold blood, and the other guy says, oh, I think I got a leg up because I can murder in cold blood.
00:25:47.000Well, and the political climate right now with police officers is that you can do whatever you want and police officers shouldn't be able to do anything back.
00:25:55.000You're telling everybody, all the police officers are bad people, they're horrible right now, we should defund them, you don't have to listen to them, you can do whatever you want, and then somebody goes off and does this and they're like, what did you shoot him for?
00:26:05.000Because you said this, you've created this environment where every cop is bad looking to kill a black person.
00:28:29.000I think it should be as unfair of a fight as humanly possible.
00:28:34.000And especially with officers because we send them out not only to defend their own lives but to defend our Our lives.
00:28:39.000That is actually the contract that we have with officers.
00:28:42.000They are paid through our tax dollars.
00:28:44.000They're sworn duty to protect our rights.
00:28:47.000And this is something that's a fundamental misunderstanding of police officers and people who understand this is, yeah, I do have a problem with militarization of police.
00:28:53.000I do have a problem with police who are infringing on our rights.
00:28:55.000If a police officer pulls me over and asks to search my car for no reason, I would say no.
00:29:00.000No you can't, because I do believe in constitutionally limited parameters for officers.
00:29:05.000But understanding the spirit of the law, they are sworn to protect our rights.
00:29:11.000So when someone else becomes a threat to our lives, and by the way, By proxy, they're a threat to our lives.
00:29:15.000If they start picking off officers, like Dallas and Detroit, or the 900 officer casualties that we've seen as a result of these riots, they have, at that point, I think they should pull out artillery like they're Jim Carrey in The Mask, okay?
00:29:29.000I don't understand when we started this.
00:29:43.000Yeah, well these people are, cops are living in complicated, scary situations, and people on the outside don't want to deal with the actual details.
00:29:50.000The details get messy, the details get crazy, and they have to make decisions that we don't ever have to make, or that we don't typically have to make.
00:29:57.000And so, yeah, again, from the outside, people on CNN, they sit in their studios and they can comment, but they don't actually want to deal with situations The studio's protected by police officers, by the way.
00:30:07.000Well, not really all that well when they ravaged it.
00:31:25.000But no one is talking about, with these children, hey, you know what?
00:31:28.000Your dad reached into a car when he was told to get on.
00:31:31.000Your dad took a knife, wielded it, and tried to go stab someone at a convenience store who owed him some money for a carburetor on his old motorcycle.
00:32:18.000At the very least, you go, okay, I can see this is a muddy scenario, but in all the cases we've presented this morning, it's entirely justifiable.
00:32:43.000And they should get a lot of support from the police unions.
00:32:46.000They should get a lot of support from the mayor.
00:32:48.000Everybody should be supporting them right now and saying, look, we're standing behind the police officers because you have to.
00:32:52.000If you don't, police officers are going to quit or they're going to die on the job.
00:32:55.000Those are the two things that are going to happen because people are going to get shot because they don't protect themselves.
00:33:00.000Well, and we live in a very imperfect system.
00:33:02.000I don't know when we thought that this was perfect, that there was never going to be a mistake made by police officers, that there was never going to be a perpetrator that posed a threat that was going to have to be put down for some reason.
00:33:10.000It's sad that it happens, but I'd rather they be shot than the police officer be shot.
00:33:42.000Yeah, but if you listen to, and if you believe the CNN version of this, the online version, the Twitter version of this, you are being turned into a stupid person.
00:33:53.000They're dumbing it down for you because they think you're stupid, and if you're taking it in, and again, taking the simplified version of this, you are stupid.
00:34:52.000I'm not a member of any group, gang, because eventually you're going to have someone in there who's an unsavory character, even though there are blacks and Latinos in Proud Boys.
00:34:59.000I wouldn't be surprised if you searched high and low if you find somebody who probably has some Pepe posts.
00:37:05.000So, of course, people were furious that the cops didn't intervene immediately, and they were labeling all of the Proud Boys far-right activists.
00:37:25.000Let's assume that, and of course when people say these folks exist on the fringes, of course we would have to say Antifa, and I guess now Black Lives Matter exists on the fringes, right?
00:38:58.000If we're going to have a complete, this is the rule now, we're going to have a complete and total lack of consideration for one another, fine.
00:39:02.000I went in and I started smoking a cigar and I swear to God, ashed it on the carpet.
00:41:23.000Yes, he should go to jail for a very long time.
00:41:28.000Or what they should do is, like Apocalypto, give him the right to, only instead of the right to run, he has the right to reach into a glove box.
00:41:34.000They knocked this guy out and called him a loser.
00:42:30.000And by the way, just because Black Lives Matter Antifa happened to be protesting somewhere, it doesn't mean that somebody else can't protest as well.
00:42:36.000If you're backing their right to protest, you have to back everybody's right.
00:42:39.000They can walk down the street and not do anything wrong.
00:42:44.000Yeah, I know we have our guest, who we'll be on here with in just a second, Jeremy Hambly from The Quartering.
00:42:48.000But if the Proud Boys are the far, my right, your left, far right, and Black Lives Matter and Antifa are the left, and we see no civilians targeted, no police officers targeted, no, contrast that of course with 900 officer casualties you see.
00:43:01.000People get mad at me and say, why do you say casualties?
00:43:03.000Because look up the definition of casualties.
00:43:06.000So, casualties from Black Lives Matter.
00:43:10.000Really, the only people, if you're checking your closet for the far-right boogeyman, the only people who need to be checking their closet, checking under the bed, are Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
00:43:18.000So if you out there are concerned about which side is more dangerous, there is one side that systematically and continually, there has been a long-standing history of them being dangerous to anyone who gets in their path.
00:43:30.000It's a cluster bomb versus a laser-guided missile.
00:43:41.000But if people are mutually engaging in combat, and it's not going to the point of death or something incredibly dangerous, people have that right.
00:43:48.000So when people say, why aren't the officers doing anything?
00:47:23.000And you've spoken, actually, with half-Asian lawyer Bill Richmond, if I'm not mistaken.
00:47:27.000Yeah, you know, I've engaged with him, and he told me he was giving For people who don't know, you did a video on this, I know quite a few people have, but you kind of cover these topics quite a bit, so I wanted to have you on.
00:47:40.000No, that's the I'm annoyed every time you call price.
00:47:43.000That's the I have to have a caller ID super screener price.
00:47:47.000For people who don't know, you did a video on this.
00:47:49.000I know quite a few people have, but you kind of cover these topics quite a bit.
00:48:09.000And as a minor update, his second channel was banned.
00:48:12.000So the generally accepted reasoning is that he had made a series of videos about a particular content creator.
00:48:24.000And some of them were kind of just clickbaiting her.
00:48:26.000Some of them were Critiquing her directly all as he describes himself in comedy and satire apparently YouTube didn't like that and so they banned his channel at the time he had zero strikes and
00:48:41.000To date, he has received zero communications from YouTube.
00:48:47.000Team YouTube has replied to thousands of other requests for information on their official Twitter account, and they've ignored his request, which has something like 70,000 interactions.
00:49:00.000To be clear, Leafy is not a small... Leafy had like four plus million subscribers.
00:49:10.000Yeah, people say yeah, yeah, as well as some sort of a weak chin, but I don't, like Leafy's content wasn't exactly for me, but my interest in it is simply the naked exposure of YouTube's community guideline strikes meaning nothing.
00:49:39.000If you're going to issue all three at once, and you basically just have a public execution, what is the point for other content creators to rely on this system?
00:49:50.000Yeah, what's the point to a warning if it's like, hey, I fired a warning shot and he's dead?
00:49:53.000Well, he fired a warning shot and then nine times straight to the sternum.
00:49:56.000Well, it seems like the warning shot was kind of incidental at that point, Charles.
00:50:01.000Let me ask, what's the general reaction from, again, for people who don't know, this wasn't political, this is just, it's not consistent with YouTube's guidelines, and by the way, I'm sorry that those guidelines have gotten more stringent.
00:50:14.000I didn't intend for it to be the case!
00:50:16.000But in my case, right, we had criticized Vox many times, and not just specific people at Vox, we'd criticized multiple different people, multiple different channels from Vox.
00:50:24.000I mean, you just said weak chin, and I see this as a man who grew a beard to hide my own very weak chin.
00:50:27.000some individuals got upset and YouTube acknowledged that this was by and large
00:50:30.000it was a criticism of Vox's ideas and yeah listen ad hominem sometimes because
00:50:34.000it's funny I mean you just said weak chin and I see this as a man who grew a
00:50:37.000beard to hide my own very weak chin. If I drool it goes straight down into my
00:50:42.000chest ashburn. So but here's my question is the issue is obviously inconsistent
00:50:48.000application of guidelines and there's no real use to them if they if they aren't
00:50:53.000What I find really upsetting is when you get big YouTubers, and I don't want to throw you under the bus, but people like H3H3 or before, you know, Philip DeFranco, people who are these big YouTubers out there who go, well, I'm either happy about this or what do you guys think?
00:51:16.000What has the reaction been from YouTube and people online in general?
00:51:20.000Has it been largely positive because I know this person was disliked?
00:51:23.000Or do these people also understand that even if they dislike somebody, it still doesn't set a good precedent for this person to be permabanned?
00:51:31.000Well, so just first and foremost, I think you already know or some of your viewers, we do share them.
00:51:43.000And whether or not you liked his content is irrelevant to me.
00:51:46.000I think that most people in the know have had this kind of a take.
00:51:52.000Some of his content is difficult to defend.
00:51:54.000There were definitely terms of service breaking things in some of his videos and I've covered that and he's definitely deserved a strike or two for some of that stuff.
00:52:04.000But What's really disgusting is some of these large creators, like you've mentioned, and I'll go a step further because I'm on your platform and I won't suffer as much as you, a creator like h3h3 openly celebrating it.
00:52:21.000That is this stuff that I cannot stand.
00:52:25.000It is one of the most, you know, there's that saying, right, they came for whatever and then I said nothing and I said nothing and then when they came for me there was no one left.
00:53:09.000And that's coming from some of the large creators, and it's difficult because as someone who supports alt-tech, and you support as well, I see you have a BitChute account, which is good for you, but these creators don't see an alternative, and they don't see the big picture, and they don't see that what they'll say down the road, or an old joke they made, will come back to get them the second people want it to.
00:53:32.000And it's such Yeah, it's such a hypocritical position to take. So I think
00:53:36.000the overall position, sorry, is that most people understand it's a bad thing. There are a few
00:53:42.000people with very poor takes, usually people that he's made fun of, quite honestly.
00:53:50.000It's nakedly, it's like a total obvious hypocrisy.
00:53:53.000So, you know, in general I think people are against it.
00:53:56.000Yeah, and we're going to go to a web extended at lineofthecutter.com slash mugclub here really quickly for people who are watching on YouTube because sometimes we can't discuss everything on YouTube.
00:54:04.000But I'm someone who was the victim of this myself, by the way, in that the Young Turks, when I had like 50,000 subscribers, the reason people say, well, why do you have such an ax to grind with them?
00:54:12.000I don't anymore because it would be bullying.
00:54:15.000But when I was coming up, they targeted me when I was a small channel, and I never wanted them to be banned.
00:54:20.000I just wanted to be able to have a debate.
00:54:22.000I wanted to be able to have my content be just as publicly available as theirs.
00:54:26.000So I have been the victim of targeted campaigns, both from people who were bullying when I was small and cancel culture.
00:54:31.000And I don't advocate for any of those people to be banned.
00:54:34.000We've had people on the show that I disagree with, who've been banned, and I don't advocate for it.
00:54:38.000So someone like an H3H3, who I saw, I've seen Philip DeFranco, I've seen a few people in the past, just, I'm so disappointed when I see it, and they sort of are taking up arms with the NBC, you know, ABC, CBSes, where they're trying to protect what's theirs, they have a huge platform now, they want to slam the door behind them, and, listen.
00:54:56.000That's fine if they want to say that, I just don't want to see his name as Ethan Klein.