Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom is out in theaters, Michael Moore joins us on the show to talk about the Second Amendment, white supremacists in Idaho, and much, much more! Also, we have our first guest appearance from our hometown of Michigan, Gerald A. Ford.
00:02:45.000Which is interesting, because it's not a thing.
00:02:49.000Canada, my home country, this is important for you to note.
00:02:51.000The Prime Minister of Canada just went on, he is now saying what we've been saying on the show for a long time, saying you don't have the right to firearms for self-defense in Canada.
00:03:00.000You don't have the right because we don't have a constitution.
00:03:02.000You do not have the right to defend yourself with firearms in Canada and we don't want that.
00:03:05.000And it's important for you to understand this because Canada is just a skip and a hop away.
00:03:09.000I grew up, right, I was 45 minutes from the upstate New York border.
00:03:13.000You just, you cross a border and you are in a land where you don't have the right to speak freely, and you don't have the right to defend yourself.
00:03:19.000And that is what they want if you look at the case law here in the United States.
00:03:22.000It's not about the grip, it's not about the trigger, it's not about the bump stock.
00:03:25.000It is, do you have the right to own a firearm?
00:07:19.000Yeah, and my son who's 7 sees it and just goes, Bullshit.
00:07:26.000He's willing to take a lot, but not that.
00:07:28.000And before we go on to the rest of the film, look, here's the thing too, with these big budget pictures, we actually have an exclusive here.
00:07:37.000If you've watched DVDs, Blu-rays, you know they'll take multiple endings, especially with these cinematic universes.
00:07:41.000And actually, at the end of the previous film, Fallen Kingdom, a lot of people don't know this, there was a version where instead of, you know, hitting the button and allowing the dinosaurs to go out and kill all of the neighbors, they didn't hit the button and the dinosaurs were kept in the building that burned down. So obviously they
00:07:58.000didn't make it. And we actually, we had the script rights. We did here. Blood Beale don't
00:08:02.000know if we produced films, but the script rights to the sequel to Jurassic World Fallen
00:08:07.000Kingdom. But we had the rights to the third film with that alternate ending. We have a clip.
00:08:59.000Now, I like Chris Pratt, and so I know people will give me crap for this.
00:09:03.000It's just, this is possibly the worst Big budget film that I've ever seen.
00:09:10.000The CGI would be bad for a video game.
00:09:13.000It's to the point of not just being unrealistic, of course, we're dealing with dinosaurs, but they're not even realistic by their own standards.
00:09:44.000And then the messaging that they try and push, of course, about climate.
00:09:47.000And this is before, by the way, they wanted to tell everyone that the vaccines are great because they were dealing with a biotech company, a pharmaceutical company, which were evil because they wanted them to be like Monsanto.
00:09:57.000But then you realize there are a lot of parallels to Pfizer.
00:10:00.000And then at the end, spoiler alert, at the end they show elephants running with triceratops.
00:10:08.000Elephants can't run with hippopotamuses, right?
00:10:10.000Then they show a leviathan with a humpback whale.
00:10:37.000I don't know why, you know, they make this big deal if she's trying to outrun the raptor because you find out that it's so easy even a child can do it.
00:10:43.000You can just stop a Velociraptor, even though it's, you know, the size of a human with the brain of a bird, by doing this.
00:11:02.000They tried to throw in, like, every possible storyline that they could find, and they didn't develop any of them.
00:11:06.000And then, this is, I guess this is what pisses me off, like, the T-Rex is lost a couple of times, but they always let the T-Rex win in the end.
00:11:35.000It's like the fish ate the other dinosaur last time and then this time he gets his butt kicked and then another one comes in that looks like some weird Edward Scissorhands bird.
00:11:42.000And you didn't like these and you love crap!
00:12:05.000Well, look, if you thought, hey, you know what Jurassic Park needs?
00:12:09.000It needs a villain who shows up halfway through and no one cares about, and it needs clones, then this is the film for you.
00:12:17.000If you said, that's what Jurassic Park needs, and we also need to care about people more than the dinosaurs, when really you just want to see them get eaten.
00:12:25.000Also, when I was there, I know people will say I'm being a snob, and this is, no, look, I like plenty.
00:12:45.000These are films that are being made so that they can be marketable in China, and you know what?
00:12:49.000If they actually offered you some mid-level thrillers, think about the great ones that we had like Fatal Attraction, like Basic Instinct, like a movie like Breakdown, or look like Breakdown is brilliant.
00:12:58.000Or even once upon a time in Hollywood, there just aren't enough of those being made because it's either ultra low budget, super indie, mumblecore crap, or they want to create a universe so that they can license it for merchandising.
00:13:09.000The truth is, Hollywood is not actually responding to what the market would want.
00:13:13.000They're trying to cater to these international markets and just say, what's the easiest way to throw this down center plate?
00:13:19.000There is nothing original about this film.
00:13:21.000There is nothing redeeming about this film.
00:14:24.000As a child, I realized, this is really bad, and I feel as though they don't respect my seven-year-old intelligence.
00:14:31.000No, it's very offensive that you just have Bane covered in crazy straws, it's a wrestler, he doesn't even talk.
00:14:38.000The point is, we locked people down, they couldn't go to theaters for years, we have a mental health crisis, and then you thrust in front of them this crap.
00:17:34.000I think some of them Let me give you the facts that the media is presenting and what it is that they are not presenting.
00:17:39.000So there were members, they said, traveled from 11 states with the intent to riot, conspiracy to riot in Idaho, a pride event, a gay pride event.
00:17:57.000And here are some of the things that, well first off they were all wearing, this is overlay C, they were all wearing khakis, blue shirts, beige hats, white, and that's why you're like, well they're, they're wearing the Fed uniform.
00:18:21.000These people have showed up, I guess, members of Patriot Front, and they've marched, and they're racist, and of course we condemn any viewpoint that would believe a race is superior, inferior.
00:18:30.000Okay, of course, we all agree with that.
00:18:32.000Also, but if someone is being peaceful, if they're not burning down cities, you can't tell them Who to love and who to hate.
00:18:49.000But when you think about it, the U-Haul truck.
00:18:52.000This is something I was going, wait, hold on a second.
00:18:53.000They came in from 11 states, all 30-something people in the back of a U-Haul truck.
00:18:57.000So this is something that is not only unsafe, impractical, they would all have to escape in one vehicle, where someone would have had to provide their license and a security deposit.
00:19:23.000But if they release all the names of people involved, you should be able to find pretty quickly the name, the state, their criminal records, their affiliations, because if it's a sting, it means they've been monitoring them for a long time, which would mean there was previous activity.
00:19:35.000And again, this is the same group they marched in D.C.
00:20:28.000It's tough to hear some people say three informants, or you say we have informants, but I don't know if three means literally all of Patriot Front.
00:20:34.000I was gonna say, like, three and there's, what, four of them?
00:21:00.000Well, they had one, I think, smoke grenade.
00:21:02.000And then they had, they had like shields.
00:21:04.000It's like, I don't know if you know this, but typically speaking, shields are a defensive tool.
00:21:09.000So it seems like more so they were maybe anticipating people attacking them, which again, I have no idea.
00:21:14.000But the point is, you don't typically rent a U-Haul truck to commit a hate crime on national television.
00:21:23.000And by the way, there's so many things here that just don't add up.
00:21:26.000And here's the thing, even if you disagree and you think that it is deplorable in the actual sense, I'm not saying basket of deplorables, but deplorable for someone to actually believe in racial inferiority, you still have to acknowledge that these people Should not be arrested if they haven't committed.
00:22:58.000But a post-racial America, and I said, you are going to create more racism than ever because you're reintroducing this to a generation, especially by guilting people, especially by guilting young white children, particularly young white males, for something that they... over which they have no control.
00:23:15.000And then you see the unequal treatment of people like these Patriot Front Awful?
00:23:23.000But the treatment of them, compared to the treatment of, yes, a domestic terror organization, who now have multi-million dollar mansions, like Black Lives Matter, who, by the way, committed, well, we'll get to this, billions of dollars in damages, and were given room, quote, this is our leaders, Black Lives Matter, they were rioting, burning down cities, and they were given room to rage, room to destroy.
00:23:46.000We've had these types of conversations before.
00:23:50.000And I've made it very clear that I worked with the police and instructed them to do everything that they could to make sure that the protesters were able to exercise their right to free speech.
00:24:05.000It's a very delicate balancing act because while we tried to make sure that they were protected from the cars and the other things that were going on, We also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well.
00:24:22.000We have arrived at a point in our country that we should recognize this is not just a moment.
00:26:28.000I don't know, but he was fined $100,000 for his opinions on January 6th and comparing it to the billions of dollars in damages of Black Lives Matter riots.
00:26:36.000A very actually, and by the way, people make insensitive comparisons all the time.
00:27:54.000Everyone mocks me for it, rightfully so.
00:27:57.000I'm so glad that it doesn't hurt me to not have to watch the NBA, the NFL.
00:28:02.000I'm so glad that it's not something that I miss because you can't say, okay, I'm going to boycott Disney and cancel my subscription and still give money to these organizations.
00:28:20.000He wrote, would love to understand the whole story about why the summer of riots, looting, burning, and the destruction of personal property is never discussed, but this is.
00:28:29.000And that was in response to January 6th.
00:28:35.000And I think the problem that you saw there, the only words was dust up.
00:28:39.000Dustup is what everybody grabbed onto in his June 8th response to the tweet that you just read, because everybody was up in arms about it, like, hey, what are you talking about?
00:28:46.000He comes out and responds with that, like, a dustup happens, and everybody's like, oh, you're calling the threat to democracy a dustup?
00:28:59.000You're foreshadowing right now, right?
00:29:01.000So let me just go over some of the things really quickly because we know we have big hearings going on right now about the worst threat to our democracy ever, much less the riots.
00:29:53.000Well, I mean, listen, you know, it does take money for that, but if it's not just money if you're talking about people hurt and talking about deaths, understandably, right?
00:30:00.000So in the two weeks following George Floyd incident, there were 19 people who were killed.
00:30:05.000A majority of those victims were black people.
00:30:07.000More than a thousand officer casualties.
00:30:09.000All references available, by the way, at louderwithcrowder.com.
00:30:11.000Yeah, and then on January 6th, despite what we were told, Initially, and then initially the corrections that didn't correct it, there was one person that was killed.
00:30:20.000She was shot while jumping through a window.
00:30:42.000They believe that four or five officers were killed, including Officer Brian Sicknick, who died of natural or potentially self-inflicted causes, right?
00:30:51.000Even the people on the side of the left, the people who have been running the investigations, our own intelligence agencies, who would really want this to be true, have had to say, okay, it's not true.
00:30:58.000None of these officers were actually killed.
00:31:00.000But that's also why it's so pernicious, because the Sports Illustrated article, when I was reading this about Del Rio, it still Promotes this narrative that four people died because of the riot.
00:33:02.000Let's go back to the NFL, because the NFL, like this... By the way, Jack Del Rio, if he doesn't, like, simmer down on this, he will be out of a job in a heartbeat, because the NFL will put their foot down on this, but nothing else, right?
00:33:12.000Because they're gonna piss off Well that's also, keep in mind, the NFL is also, remember Colin Kaepernick said, it's slavery, and he just repeatedly wants to audition for slavery.
00:33:20.000He does, because apparently being drafted into being a slave is tough these days.
00:33:23.000Then he cast men who looked the most like slaves.
00:33:27.000The slave master came out from roots like, now you listen here, which one of you is going to be my strongest slave?
00:35:08.000We were like, no, he's a private employee.
00:35:10.000Keith Olbermann, are you now on our side that free speech does exist?
00:35:13.000And by the way, I'm not creating a false equivalency, because just to be clear here, I think what Colin Kaepernick did was far worse and more uninformed.
00:35:21.000Saying that the United States is a country based on slavery, that he won't stand for an unjust country, and then auditioning for the organization that he's claimed is basically a slavery combine.
00:35:33.000I think that's far dumber And far more offensive to the basic human being's intellect, of average intelligence, mind you, than saying, hey, why can't we ask about the Black Lives Matter riots that were billions of dollars in damages?
00:35:45.000Thousands of casualties with officers alone, thousands of arrests, over 19 deaths in the two weeks.
00:36:16.000Washington Commander's Defense Coordinator Jack Del Rio calling the January 6th insurrection a dust-up earlier this week and also making the false equivalence to the riots that happened in the aftermath of the murder of George Floyd and others.
00:36:29.000Multiple examples of police violence directed to minorities in 2020 and the organic reaction to that.
00:36:37.000The president of the NAACP said yesterday it's time for Del Rio to resign or be fired.
00:36:46.000Okay, so let me just explain a couple of things here.
00:36:49.000A coach is fined $100,000 for downplaying January 6th, which killed zero black people.
00:36:54.000The only person who was killed was an old white broad, by the way.
00:36:57.000An older white broad who was a Trump supporter, who was going through a window, and it was completely an unnecessary shoot.
00:37:03.000Pretty much everyone agrees on that if you've actually looked at the Yes.
00:37:05.000So this NFL coach is fined $100,000, but the same organization celebrates Black Lives Matter, which has led to dozens of deaths, largely black people when we're talking about citizens, let alone officers, and let alone the black officers who have been the victim of these casualties at the hands of this domestic terrorist organization.
00:37:22.000But here is the point that I think really matters.
00:37:24.000We just talked about the Patriot Front.
00:38:06.000So people as individuals say, we literally can't even ask questions about these organizations.
00:38:10.000You know, my business was burned down, but what I don't want to have happen is me be fired from my new job.
00:38:14.000So they become silent, they speak in quiet, and then they feel like in order to just be safe, and I don't mean physically safe, in order to maintain their livelihood, they need to become a part of a group.
00:38:59.000Off of the ideological playing field, let's push them to the wings of extremism and then be surprised and bitch about the fact that we're divided more than ever here in the United States.
00:39:10.000If this is an offense worthy of a $100,000 fine, guess what?
00:39:16.000The NFL has said, you, as a mainstream, unless you are a radical leftist who believes that Black Lives Matter is faultless, blameless, as Mike Florio just said, what do you say, the false equivalence?
00:39:31.000Well, I guess you're right, because one was very violent and destroyed livelihoods and the entire country tore us apart, and the other one was, I don't know, let's call it a hootenanny that took place with a couple hundred people and no one was killed at the Capitol.
00:39:43.000It is an entirely illegitimate comparison because of how violent Black Lives Matter has been.
00:39:48.000Not only do I think this, not only does everyone in this room think this, the vast majority of Americans believe this, and you have said that they are not welcome to have a seat at the table, they are not welcome to play in major sports organizations, and they are not welcome to even be on mainstream media platforms, nor social media platforms.
00:40:08.000Where do you expect them to go How do you expect them to evolve from here?
00:40:13.000It's only going to get worse if you don't let anyone speak.
00:40:17.000Especially when it's as rational as this.
00:41:37.000I think they're just trying to make you think it's downplaying it.
00:41:40.000They're trying to make you think that this was Donald Trump trying to overthrow a duly elected president which has never happened in our history before and that's not what it was.
00:42:14.000Yeah, and all this other stuff in the media has made people think that, but so many people have asked me, like, but they did crap on her desk, right?
00:42:20.000And I'm like, no, I wish, but they didn't.
00:42:22.000But let's even say someone crapped on her desk, is that reason to be jailed for months without trial, forfeiting your rights for sedition because you left a grumpy on the speaker's desk?
00:42:32.000Three years because you wore a stupid hat like Fred Flintstone?
00:42:37.000If you attacked a cop, If you even if you assaulted a cop right or bad I don't even know what the terms are but if you cause harm to one of the police officers you should be tried for it yep you should be charged immediately I'm sorry I don't care how pissed off you got you should be tried for it deal if you walked into the capitol among a crowd of people and they want to charge you with trespassing fine I'm sure you'll pay the $200 fine
00:44:55.000So over the weekend, and this is important, I always tell people Canada is a very important Petri dish.
00:45:00.000Because a lot of Americans understand these laws that exist in other Commonwealth countries where they don't have the Constitution of the United States.
00:45:09.000So you don't have to go all the way over to Europe and you would be surprised when you go to Canada just how American it seems in so many ways on its surface.
00:45:16.000And then you go just a couple layers deeper and you realize that the rights you take for granted on a daily basis are one brush of the pen away from going away forever.
00:45:27.000So over the weekend, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said that Gun rights, as they relate to self-defense, don't exist in Canada.
00:45:36.000We're introducing legislation to implement a national freeze on handgun ownership.
00:45:44.000Okay, sorry, we got the wrong clip, I apologize.
00:45:46.000That's not him, but here is Prime Minister Justin Trudeau saying that you have no right to self-defense with firearms in Canada.
00:45:52.000And there are debates and we have a culture where the difference is guns can be used for hunting or for sport shooting in Canada and there's lots of gun owners and they're mostly law respecting and law abiding, but you can't use a gun for self-protection in Canada.
00:46:10.000That's not a right that you have in the Constitution or anywhere else.
00:46:13.000If you try and buy a gun and say it's for self-protection, no, you don't get that.
00:46:16.000You get it for hunting, you can get it for sport shooting, you can take it to the range, no problem as long as you go through our rigorous background checks.
00:46:23.000But there's a difference around the culture and one of the things that we're seeing with the debate in the States is you get more and more of the American style, you know, right to carry, self-defense arguments filtering up through the usual more right-wing communications channels.
00:46:42.000I like that he says more right-wing because he's saying those crazy right-wingers believe that you have the right to defend your home and your wife and your...
00:46:52.000Keep in mind, when you're talking about the Second Amendment, when you're looking at the actual case law, when you're looking at Heller v.
00:46:59.000D.C., look at the dissenting opinions here in the United States.
00:47:02.000It was, you have no right to, private citizens have no right to own a firearm whatsoever.
00:47:06.000So when people on the left are saying, eh, the Second Amendment's not absolute, which is why that was the question of the day, what they are, they're not saying, we need an assault weapons ban.
00:47:14.000They're not saying we should have a waiting period, which, by the way, I'm also against.
00:47:17.000They're saying that private citizens don't have the right to own a firearm whatsoever because we've misinterpreted the Constitution.
00:47:26.000Therefore, We become exactly like Canada.
00:47:28.000And he is saying you get it for hunting.
00:51:26.000This is what happens when you trust them and you say, look, we're going to give you all the power that we want and we're scared and the government needs to take care of us.
00:51:32.000It just, listen, I don't know that anybody would have said that Justin Trudeau, like you couldn't fit him for a black hat early on, right?
00:51:38.000You could probably say if you knew Justin Trudeau, I'd be like, ah, he's probably not going to be a good prime minister.
00:51:41.000But now it's like, wait, he's literally saying you have no right to defend yourself with a firearm or property really by extension.
00:52:27.000It will be rendered useless for self-defense because that's what they have done everywhere not named the United States of America.
00:52:35.000And by the way, speaking of this, in the United States, Michael Moore, who looks like a transitioning Walter White, would like America to adopt this exact same position.
00:52:44.000Here he is on MSNBC saying that we don't need guns and we'll have them here in studio.
00:52:48.000I think that we need some really drastic action here.
00:52:52.000We need a moratorium, perhaps, on gun sales.
00:52:56.000Who will say on this network or any other network in the next few days, it's time to repeal the Second Amendment?
00:53:05.000Sorry, I'm just writing down a note that he's an asshole.
00:53:10.000Those are some pretty rough I mean, no, I want to say it's not at all something that I didn't expect.
00:53:19.000I wish I could say I'm surprised, but look, respect to anyone who's willing to reach across the aisle and have a conversation, as extreme as he may be, wanted to bring in Michael Moore to explain our home state of Michigan, and here he is.
00:58:46.000You're sitting there like, well, I don't know.
00:58:48.000That's worrisome because I don't want, when we're talking about the next election in 2024, I don't want it to be, for the Democrats, anyone else.
00:59:26.000You know, if the president chooses to run again in 2024, I mean, first of all, I'm focused on winning this majority right now and preserving a majority this year in 2022.
00:59:37.000So we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
00:59:39.000But but I think if if the president has a vision and that's something certainly we're all willing to entertain and examine when the time comes.
01:01:39.000But they didn't have a meeting here as far as, well, when we say softball, do we mean no follow-up questions?
01:01:44.000And unfortunately, Dana Bash was just trying to give her the opportunity saying that's not a yes because she thought AOC would say, well, yes, of course.
01:01:52.000And instead, AOC didn't want to endorse Biden because she must have seen some recent polling data, you know, from anywhere, and so she was afraid.
01:02:00.000She didn't want to fall on that sword.
01:02:03.000She thought she was teeing it up for AOC because they are used to being teed up.
01:02:09.000Trust me, when you think that there are these people who are experts, whether it's in media, whether it's in academia, whether it's often in science or politics, You know how when you're an adult, when you're a kid, you think that adults all know what they're doing?
01:02:23.000And then you grow up and you become an adult and you realize, I don't really know what I'm doing.
01:02:27.000I know what I'm doing a little bit more than a six-year-old, but I don't know what I'm doing nearly as much as I believed other adults did when I was six.
01:02:34.000It's that only more severe with the experts, particularly in areas like politics and education.
01:02:42.000You know, areas where there's no actual profit bottom line, where someone can look at numbers on a sheet and say, okay, this either worked or it didn't.
01:02:48.000That's what you just saw happening there.
01:02:51.000And look, she's saying what everybody's thinking right now, right?
01:02:54.000You guys sold us the lie that it was the most popular president in American history, had more votes than anybody else, he's the savior of our country and that the economy is doing fantastic and we just don't know it yet.
01:03:04.000And then you had to come straight up to terms with He sucks and nobody likes him.
01:03:09.000The polling shows that the stock market right now is in the midst of crashing.
01:03:18.000It's been up, I think, as high as down 850 or so points.
01:03:21.000And it's like, well, 8.6% inflation last week will do that.
01:03:24.000And so many negative outlooks on the economy, including the president, who said that inflation was just going to be a momentary thing, saying, hey, this may be around for a while.
01:03:33.000Then he said it's, well, you know, it's something we're just gonna, now he's saying there's nothing we can do about inflation.
01:03:37.000So you're paying record gas prices, you're dealing with record inflation, you're dealing with a horribly screwed up job market, and by that I mean there are actually jobs available that people don't want to apply for because they've been conditioned and paid to not work for a while, and now we're dealing with that fallout.
01:03:50.000We're probably going to actually find ourselves at the point of a labor shortage.
01:03:53.000The housing market has been artificially manipulated, which we're now seeing correcting itself somewhat.
01:03:57.000We don't know whether it will correct itself entirely because of Vanguard.
01:04:01.000Yeah, the mortgage rates, yeah, are going way up.
01:04:03.000We just saw the most amount of homes made available on the market in a month-to-month jump since I believe it was June 2008, but certainly before the 2008 crash.
01:04:12.000That'll probably be manipulated by too-big-to-fail organizations like Vanguard, BlackRock, so we don't know what's going to happen there.
01:04:31.000Let's see what they're doing right now.
01:04:35.000So they're continuing now with this political theater.
01:04:42.000So don't worry about gas prices, your future, your children's future, your ability to make a living, that your savings is going down the shitter because we need to get down to the day we almost lost American Democracy, which by the way, this country is not.
01:04:56.000Dave, by the way, has a solo show this Friday before our show in Colorado Springs.