Amber Heard was found guilty of one count of aggravated assault and battery on Johnny Depp. She was also convicted of a count of assault and false imprisonment. On this episode of Feminist Cops, we discuss all of this and much more!
00:03:18.000A lot of you have asked us to discuss Amber Heard a little bit more, and many of you say that you don't want to see her face, her pretty but horrible evil face.
00:03:27.000Here's why we're going to be doing Quite a bit of live streaming on Amber Heard later.
00:03:31.000We're going to get to Joe Biden first, former Vice President Joe Biden, and him referring to you as extremists, right?
00:03:36.000Everyone who's pro-life, everyone who actually supports the idea of abortion rights going back to the States.
00:03:41.000Which brings my question of the day before Amber Heard.
00:03:58.000But I do think it's important, this Amber Heard, this is kind of a landmark case because I was very surprised to see that the people least tolerant of the shenanigans are women, particularly women who've been abused.
00:04:10.000If you run a search on Amber Heard and abuse victims right now, you will see many abuse victims speaking out saying that this does not seem to be someone who is a victim of abuse.
00:04:19.000And at the very least, we know she is an abuser as well.
00:05:03.000If we get booted here on YouTube, we're on Rumble, and every Monday through Thursday, 8—sorry, 8—every Monday through Thursday, 10 a.m.
00:07:42.000Yesterday she said something that I think was maybe lost on most people, and it shocked me when I heard it, and I think it's the primary problem with third-wave feminism and condemning men for toxic masculinity and wanting it both ways.
00:07:57.000See if you can catch the terrifying part.
00:09:57.000Unless you have someone who wants to take half your stuff, like Amber Heard, in which case, any help that you've ever sought out is now on display for the whole world to see.
00:10:08.000Your doctor-patient confidentiality goes away in a civil case with a divorce if a woman's trying to use it against you.
00:10:14.000So, if Johnny Depp wanted to protect himself, rather than do what is expected of him in today's anti-masculine society, is not get help, So there's no record of it.
00:10:24.000Just say, there's nothing wrong with me.
00:11:37.000Imagine if you're sitting there crying, if Dave tastes a 380, and we're sitting there at his funeral, and if we start crying, Amber goes, that's weird.
00:11:44.000Yeah, I remember when I was crying at every funeral, I always had an uncle come up to me and was like, stop being so weird.
00:12:44.000But Joe, former Vice President Joe Biden now is referring to all of you as extremists for simply holding a view that the majority of Americans hold.
00:12:49.000That being said, this is the playbook from the left, right?
00:12:53.000They always play themselves up to be Captain Unity.
00:12:55.000They call for civility when they feel as though they're the ones being under attack, and then that goes out the window once they don't get their way.
00:13:02.000Like children, or Amber Heard, or feminists, but I repeat myself, here we go back to Captain Unity with the most votes ever of any president, wildly popular, 81 million.
00:14:27.000This is about a lot more than abortion.
00:14:29.000The idea that somehow there is an inherent right, that there is no right of privacy, that there is no right... Remember the debate we had, you don't remember, but we had a debate about... You don't remember.
00:15:32.000MAGA, what he means is, you know, the half that voted to, you know, fewer votes in the most free and fair election of all time, who voted for Donald Trump.
00:15:39.000I guess they didn't learn from the basket of deplorables.
00:16:09.000If you don't know, the gaslighting works on me!
00:16:13.000Where sometimes I have to go back and go, wait, hold on a second, maybe I'm missing something.
00:16:17.000No, no, Roe v. Wade, if it were to be overturned, which it likely will, just means that states can place restrictions on abortions in the first trimester, which they can't do right now.
00:16:44.000Knowing the policy, what is more extreme?
00:16:47.000You can take the left, of course, you can take Antifa, you can take Black Lives Matter, and then let's say you take the January 6th insurrectionists.
00:18:16.000It would allow abortion up until birth.
00:18:18.000Let me show you what the bill would have been.
00:18:20.000Again, while we're talking about extremists, a prohibition on abortion after fetal viability when, in the good faith medical judgment of the treating health care provider, continuation of the pregnancy would pose a risk to the pregnant patient's life or health.
00:18:34.000What this bill is saying is there should be No allowance for restrictions on abortions even after viability.
00:18:43.000Acknowledging viability, you still can't place any restrictions on it.
00:20:19.000They have to put in the bill, health of every person capable of becoming pregnant.
00:20:23.000So on one side you have people saying, yeah, the MAGA extremists, alright, give it over to the states.
00:20:29.000And on the other side, you have all Democrats except for two saying abortion up until nine months and including births for not just women but any pregnant persons.
00:22:43.000For the left to say, well, the privacy issue makes abortion a constitutional right, and by the way, we acknowledge viability, like the bill I just told you about from Ms.
00:22:52.000Chu, and you should still be able to kill them anyway.
00:22:54.000Look, you don't have the right Okay, let me give you an example of a right to privacy.
00:22:59.000You have the right, uh, there's patient-doctor confidentiality, right?
00:23:03.000Same thing with lawyer-client confidentiality.
00:23:05.000Of course, that goes out the window if, uh, you know, you have someone who wants to take, if Amber Heard wants to take half your stuff.
00:23:10.000Then you have to be filleted open for the world to see, as we're seeing right now.
00:24:12.000Remember how back in the day I said it was a slippery slope when we were talking about same-sex marriage, when we were talking about the idea that men and women were fundamentally interchangeable?
00:24:19.000Regardless of where you lined up on that, I just said it opens the door here that we no longer have the roles of male, female in society, that really men and women are not, and now here we are, fundamentally interchangeable.
00:24:29.000When we said, hey, look, hold on a second, you're just talking about people identifying however they want on their identification, well, what's going to happen with sports?
00:24:36.000They said, well, no, hold on a second, that's just, come on, you're just fearmongering.
00:24:54.000And even worse, your former vice president, most popular former vice president ever, goes into a Humanities 101 logical fallacy to make his point.
00:25:07.000And this one today is the red herring.
00:25:11.000You guys can run a search on this afterwards.
00:25:14.000It's where you bring up something that's largely irrelevant to try and take the argument somewhere where you feel more comfortable, effectively.
00:25:19.000Biden, there, is creating a red herring by saying, you may not remember this in the clip, he just said, what about LGBTQ children?
00:25:26.000They could be kicked out of classrooms.
00:25:29.000Just so I'm clear that I'm understanding this, if states have the right To regulate abortion as they see fit in their state, meaning Texas can have a heartbeat bill and Colorado can have abortion up until birth, including birth period, and the federal government doesn't have it under its jurisdiction.
00:25:45.000If that happens, gay boys won't be allowed in classrooms?
00:26:38.000When I was a young kid, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up.
00:26:41.000And because I saw that my mom and dad lived together and I roomed with my brother, and then I saw teenagers didn't room together anymore, I was like, well, I really like being his roommate.
00:27:38.000We're the only country, Canada, we have the loonie, which is a single dollar coin, and it's because there's a loon, the bird, on the loonie.
00:28:21.000No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States.
00:28:25.000This has nothing to do with the Due Process Clause.
00:28:28.000Here's something else that I want to move on to really quickly because Amber Heard isn't on, but there's another person, Olivia Wilde, who is- Newton-John?
00:29:00.000So, we know, look, this is one thing too where he talks about, talks about extremism.
00:29:06.000The left wants to create an echo, and I want to get through this pretty, but you look at Twitter, you look at how they responded on Twitter with Elon Musk.
00:29:13.000You look at what they're doing on social media, big tech.
00:29:16.000We know that the left is Opposed to hearing any views with those they disagree with.
00:29:23.000Nearly one quarter, 24% of Democrats said they blocked, unfriended, or stopped following someone on social media after the election because of their political posts on social media.
00:29:30.000Fewer than 1 in 10, this means 9% of Republicans, reported doing the same.
00:29:53.000What's crazy to me is when you see those on the left demanding policies and actions that will continue, that can only result in an echo chamber, and then bitch about an echo chamber to you and say they need more oversight over big tech companies.
00:30:10.000You're in such an echo chamber that only two members of your party thought that once a baby is viable outside of the womb, you still shouldn't stick forceps in its head.
00:30:19.000You've been in an echo chamber, and you're trying to put everyone else in these same silos, and then bitching about it.
00:30:27.000Someone wants to call me an extremist?
00:31:46.000All I knew was it was good for me to know who had the backpack super soaker because I could hit them first because I knew their dad was rich.
00:32:27.000You know what, I think that it's going to be time to, people know that we've had someone pooping in the office, a copycat pooper from Amber Heard, and I think it's time to put on my detective hat.
00:33:32.000I, of course, first suspected Brendan, because he is Very little self-control, and seems to find these things funny due to a sophomoric sense of humor.
00:33:42.000But, had to rule that out, the moment that I saw, the fecal transplant that we had on Monday was littered with payday bars!
00:33:50.000And as you well know, Dave... Allergic to peanuts.
00:34:21.000Well... Everybody knows that I've been covering for you for years as you take your bathroom break as we go to YouTube, and it's always more than an enlarged prostate, but often a mud pie.
00:39:24.000So you'd make a point and then he would go on to a different accusation.
00:39:30.000But I remember that what started it is this accusation that I had been flirting at this event.
00:39:37.000We get back to the hotel room and Johnny shoves me and kind of grabs me by the collarbone area, like not really my neck, but top of my neck.
00:39:50.000Top of my, above my collarbone, below my neck.
00:40:10.000And at some point... That's an angle of attack!
00:40:13.000I don't remember specifics but it ricocheted.
00:40:15.000You only remember bits and pieces of the most violent fight I've heard between a married couple so far.
00:40:20.000Johnny and I are in a struggle in the living room and he kind of like shoves me down on the sofa and I get up and I'm trying to get him off of me and he's just stronger than me.
00:40:33.000And at some point, he just whacks me in the face.
00:40:37.000And I had not, at the time, been, like, I didn't, I think that was the first time I was like, is this a broken nose?
00:40:46.000At the time, I was unsure what that feeling was, but I suspected.
00:40:50.000Kind of like, well, now you're going to know what it's like to have a broken career.
00:40:53.000And other than that, I was relatively unscathed.
00:40:58.000But I remember other than that, that's such a okay talk about
00:41:02.000Trying to play coy I mean, I don't know what he threw a bottle and it bounced
00:41:07.000off and it broke the chandelier and he broke my nose But other than that, I was unscathed trying to present
00:41:12.000herself as beautiful and brave while also presenting herself as the victim. I'm sorry
00:41:16.000but drink And just so you can see, that is in fact Cinco de Mayo Cerveza, which is... By the way, you need to go to Dave's Chandeliers, where we hang them.
00:43:56.000So, control room, pull up the James Franco clip of them in the elevator.
00:43:58.000Keep in mind, and this is where the lie gets built upon the lie and the lie and the lie, Amber Heard had to fire her, or she chose to fire her PR firm.
00:44:06.000Not a good idea in the middle of a case.
00:44:09.000When, of course, it was alleged that she had cheated on Johnny Depp with James Franco, her attorney said they just happened to be in the same elevator together.
00:44:17.000Well, if you watch the tape, you can clearly see not only do they try and avoid the camera, but they sort of cuddle by putting their heads together, and they only go to the penthouse, which can only be reached by the person who lives in the penthouse, or the person has to be with them.
00:44:30.000James Franco was not getting off at any other floor.
00:44:32.000So they present an argument, And then, okay, you see the footage.
00:47:31.000She's using language that she believes she's... No one who is kicked in the back, on a plane, in front of people, abused, their first instinct is embarrassed.
00:47:40.000What she's trying to emulate is when people say, hey, a lot of rape victims feel shame afterwards, particularly if it's some kind of relationship where maybe things went too far and they feel as though they were guilted and they were blaming their outfit or were they... That is true and it's wrong for people to feel shame about that, but for her to say, I had the shit kicked out of me on an airplane in front of people, and I just felt ashamed and embarrassed.
00:49:25.000Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo How can that count for speculation?
00:50:31.000It's like people who are just living their life with no accountability, like the left or like someone like Amber Heard, they just always overreach with a lie.
00:50:39.000Well, you have Johnny Depp who, like, he trashed a hotel in the 80s when he was young, which was a party.
00:51:21.000You can't just be mad at somebody because they're doing the same dumb stuff you are, but have way more access to things.
00:51:27.000Though he's still wearing the same dumb things, Johnny Depp.
00:51:30.000Well, he's, well... You know why I think he's a decent man?
00:51:34.000Because he's very close friends with Alice Cooper, who is a supremely decent man.
00:51:37.000Well, he knows a lot of comics, and I know, uh, dude, a lot of people know him, and I've never heard bad things about Johnny Depp until now.
00:51:44.000The only thing that I will say is, uh, we were extras in the film The Secret Window, or my dad was.
00:51:48.000He was very nice, but he faked like he could speak French, and he can't.
00:51:52.000Yeah, that doesn't make him bad, but I do see that.
00:51:54.000It makes him want to be pretentious a little bit.
00:51:57.000Well, yeah, there's always a pretentious.
00:54:05.000Yeah, he had an opiate addiction, yeah.
00:54:06.000Well, I knew that, but what about his finger?
00:54:08.000Well, yeah, she threw a bottle of vodka at him, a handle of vodka, that's what severed his finger.
00:54:12.000Oh, that's right, that's what happened.
00:54:13.000He had to have surgery, and then he got Mercy, he got staff, which I didn't realize how severe it was when I got it in my foot two years ago.
00:54:21.000You can get sepsis, it's really, really bad.
00:54:46.000It does sound pathetic, and I'm sure that's embarrassing for Johnny Depp.
00:54:49.000But do you think that people, men or women, are more likely or less likely to get help If you decide to embarrass him on a public stage in order to try and extort them for money.
00:55:03.000And any time that you can bring in any sort of a legal activity, even if it's legally prescribed, he may have obtained it in a different way.
00:55:12.000And that's the problem, is any time that you can talk about addiction, no matter what it was with him, he could be overspending whatever you can find on somebody that they can admit to.
00:55:22.000You know what, here let's... It can be anything, it can be... Because that's a really good point, and I think a lot, and I, honestly Dave, I really do appreciate when you're open about this, because I, you know, we've talked in private, I'm like, I don't want to bring up the addiction stuff.
00:55:37.000And I think we've both discussed having mental health issues in the past.
00:55:39.000We both have, because I don't want it to only come up when it's political football.
00:55:43.000When people say, usually mental health only comes up when it's a school shooting, and one side wants to say, oh it's not guns, it's mental health.
00:56:29.000That's when you end up stigmatizing people.
00:56:31.000And that's what's happening right now.
00:56:33.000Well, and also if you have like a court order, you know, obviously that is a judgment, but even you actually follow it and you go, okay, this is something that I realized I've made a mistake.
00:57:40.000I don't know if we want to go to... Do you want to take some chats right now on YouTube?
00:57:44.000This is usually something we do with Mug Club, but let's take chats for about five to ten minutes on the Johnny Depp situation, Amber Heard.
00:57:51.000If that's what we want to do, you let me know.
00:57:52.000Again, I'm kind of going through this blind.
00:57:56.000And then if they come back, we can continue covering it.
00:57:59.000If you're watching right now, you can usually join LightUpWithCreditor.com slash MugClub.
00:58:39.000Took away, you know, he just, you have a track record of being in the public spotlight since the early 80s and this is the first time it's come up.
00:58:47.000I think you should at least give a little bit of time before you just jump on somebody.
00:58:55.000The second you can hurt somebody and the second you can take their career away, there's a lot of people out there that just want to do that.
00:59:01.000It's the inability to achieve something and just immediately try to kill off somebody else.
00:59:07.000No, it was right away jumping on it, and honestly, not like... I remember we told some jokes about it, but nothing really serious because we didn't know.
00:59:13.000Then when the tapes came out of Amber Heard, you know, hitting him and talking about hitting him, I remember feeling like this is just awful, him being railroaded.
00:59:22.000Because again, working in the media, you see the groundswell on how much of a trend it was that Johnny Depp was abusive.
00:59:27.000It wasn't really in our wheelhouse, so we didn't spend a lot of time on it, but I was aware of just... it was sort of this goldmine.
00:59:32.000It was like a witch hunt of how many people could just, you know, get some kind of a scoop on Johnny Depp.
00:59:36.000And I remember thinking, you're going to have a lot of people who heard that and they're not going to know that she was wailing on him.
00:59:56.000Yeah, well, her own psychologist, the one who she hired, by the way, yesterday, who showed incredible gender bias by saying, you know, often the woman being abused just assumed that it was a woman, and it turns out she has never actually given an evaluation or testimony, at least in the last, I believe, five or ten years, that involved a man being abused outside of a same-sex couple.
01:02:52.000I don't know how many more, but I absolutely think that he's in a better position after this trial than he was before this trial.
01:02:58.000Because whether he wins the defamation or not, and I talked about this with half-Asian lawyer Bill Richmond on last Ash Wednesday, he needs to prove that she knowingly lied and that it did damages to him.
01:03:10.000That's kind of a tough hurdle to clear.
01:03:14.000Whether he wins that or not, he's already won.
01:03:16.000Well, the people that are going to go see his movies, you know, they weren't going to go see him anyway.
01:03:32.000Because they won't let it go and they will just assume that you're always the abuser because that allows them to always continue playing that victim card and have that narrative.
01:03:39.000But I think he's going to have way more opportunities because they hated him anyway.
01:03:48.000And there's no reason why you wouldn't want to have a bankable star back.
01:03:52.000And he was kind of aging out a little bit.
01:03:54.000So this puts him back into the spotlight.
01:03:56.000So I think he will actually get more opportunities as well.
01:03:59.000Well, they said that he had to take a lot of crappy films because of some of the financial burdens that he had, and this was just because of a liquidity issue, so that's why he did a few.
01:04:07.000What was that movie with the artificial intelligence thing where you download your brain?
01:04:24.000He hasn't been able to, so I don't see how it could get any worse.
01:04:26.000And certainly, I think at the worst, in the worst case scenario for Johnny Depp going forward now, it's, alright, this was an unhealthy, this was a toxic relationship from both sides, right?
01:04:36.000That's at best that Amber Heard can argue.
01:04:38.000And I think a lot of people are going to understand the difference.
01:04:40.000It's pretty legitimate to a degree, sure.
01:04:50.000And I think that if anybody's being honest, we've all in our life been in an argument where you lose control, you're pissed off, your emotions get the better of you.
01:04:59.000And people want to act like they've never been in a situation.
01:05:01.000Now, yeah, obviously throwing bottles, hitting, you know, ripping off the part of somebody's finger.
01:05:07.000You know, there's extents that we all don't cross, but we've all been in that moment where, whether it's with anybody, even where you just turn red and you do something regrettable.
01:05:28.000There's a difference between, you know, explosive anger that happens.
01:05:31.000Like you said, it happens probably in every relationship at some point where both the woman and the man, they get mad, they lose control, and that's a bad thing.
01:06:22.000And then, when Aquaman was coming out, had someone ghostwrite and signed off on being a victim of abuse, capitalizing on the Me Too trend, and then told him, well, you go ahead and go out and say, this is what's a recorded phone call, you go out and tell them that you're a man, a victim of domestic abuse, you tell the world, Johnny, see who they believe.
01:07:24.000And it would be unrealistic to, and I'm not saying it's impossible, to believe that she was the angel she portrays herself to be in that marriage, he was a monster, and then after the marriage, him be the silent, non-confrontational one and her to be on the attack, on the attack, on the attack.
01:07:41.000There's usually a pattern of behavior, and that was recognized by both psychologists.
01:07:46.000What really just comes into question is, was Johnny Depp as abusive as Amber Heard?
01:07:50.000Her own lawyers aren't saying that she wasn't.
01:07:55.000They're just saying, well, maybe she was abused more.
01:07:56.000Well, then it's a wash as far as I'm concerned.
01:07:59.000Well, and whatever happened, he settled with the fact and knowing that he was the person who was going to be looked at like garbage for the rest of his life with that nondisclosure and that she was going to be able to do movies.
01:08:13.000I mean, he was his career was ruined by it to a degree.
01:08:38.000And it's like, well, you can't do, don't you took, you took the money so that you wouldn't keep going forward and try and use this to advance your career.
01:08:44.000And I think that's what rubs people the wrong way because they saw it play out in the public eye and the timing is just too convenient for her.
01:08:51.000Well you wanted your cake and to eat it too and then to eat some more.
01:08:54.000Yes and uh she's looking like she's eating a little bit more cake maybe it's just some stress eating.
01:11:41.000Steven Seagal got so fat he couldn't do the fight scenes.
01:11:44.000They're like, okay, he's gonna throw a front kick, and you're gonna, you know, you're gonna sidestep, you're gonna block, and he's like, I wouldn't do that.
01:11:51.000They're like, everyone else is, like, doing these acrobats, and he's just like, Well yeah, on Apocalypse Now, there was a scene where he's just like into the character and I don't know if it was because he was great at method or he's just lazy, but he's doing the lines as Colonel Kurtz and a bug just crawls in his mouth and he eats it and he just goes, I ate a bug.
01:12:14.000He also had, uh, there was a Burger King right by his house.
01:12:17.000He would pay a kid to take all the remaining food at the end of the night, and he would throw it over the fence of Marlon Brando's house, and then he would just like- Is that true?
01:13:43.000He held it up to the light and exclaimed, I found God.
01:13:45.000I was so proud that after a couple of years of being on the receiving end of Marlon's practical jokes, I was finally able to swing back and connect big time.
01:15:26.000I have a penchant for Whataburger thrown over my... It's not so much a fence as it is really more of a steel barrier, but it's a style choice, brave choices.
01:15:39.000I originally wanted Wendy's, but the Frosties would just go everywhere and cause ants.
01:17:20.000I don't know why I find that so funny.
01:17:23.000It's like these actors, we think that they're distinguished and they have these yachts, but he's wearing, you know, the already pre-assembled suit from J.C.
01:17:30.000Penney, drinking from a generic steel tumbler that he got at like some kind of a furniture convention.
01:17:34.000Oh, that was my favorite was when Hulk Hogan was on.
01:17:39.000I forgot what the trial was even about.
01:19:36.000I mean, you really have to stretch to make the world in danger from sharks.
01:19:41.000Yeah, I think we talked about it, but it was like an idea for Entourage, because they're like, well, here's a hero where they'll never make a movie about it, so we can just have it in this.
01:20:46.000Was it one of- was it- I know Outkast was the soundtrack, but I don't- I did a lot of the soundtrack, but I don't think it was one of them.
01:31:12.000Like, if you go back and you read Tolkien, like, you see, like, he actually talked about how this was designed to be written, it was basically meant to be sort of, you know, folklore, or he said, like, what's the term, like, mythology for the Western Europe that didn't already exist.
01:31:26.000And he said it was meant for the simple person, for the layman, and he seemed to have a sense of humor about himself.
01:31:30.000But George R. R. Martin, he has no sense of humor, and once someone shows it, I'm like, I can't do it.
01:31:34.000Oh no, one of the funniest things I've ever seen too about the guy.
01:31:37.000I was on an episode of Family Guy and it's just George R. R. Martin, he's just in his, like, mobility scooter.
01:32:52.000So she's doing some of the things I was talking about out there.
01:32:55.000The start-stop is very indicative of somebody that's lying and kind of fabricating on the spot.
01:33:00.000So she'll have moments where she talks quite a bit and it's just like you telling a story about your life that you're watching the video of in your mind.
01:33:08.000Got my penis caught in revolving door once.
01:33:27.000No, that's a good point, and I've also noticed there are very few ums, which a lot of people will say, you know, in broadcasting, you're not supposed to say um because it's a word whisker, but it's natural when you're recounting something, as opposed to very staccato, articulate, stop, and then this described that way.
01:35:06.000And there was a lot of that in the early parts of her testimony, especially yesterday, where she's telling a story and she's wanting to look at the jury and she'll kind of go into her narrative and then up come the eyebrows.
01:35:17.000Don't look me in the eyes, it triggers my aggression.
01:35:52.000Which, it seems like it's, if you're reliving one of your most, and this is something that people get wrong because a lot of the body language experts you'll see on television, they're like, that person is looking down and to the left it means they're lying.
01:36:01.000Often if someone is actually recounting something traumatic or something that is embarrassing to them, they won't look you in the eye.
01:36:06.000It doesn't mean that they're lying, it means that they're nervous about it.
01:36:09.000So someone who looks you in the eye to describe their most traumatic experience of their life...
01:37:06.000Ugh, I felt guilty once because when I was poor and I was at a hotel on the road, I took a roll because it clearly had been like, it was like one of those places that would wrap it in foil.
01:38:20.000You are not allowed to testify about the text messages with his assistant, but can you tell the jury about your communications with Mr. Depp?
01:39:36.000I spoke to him when I was in New York on the phone and he said that he was, um, he had a chip or that he was going to meetings.
01:39:50.000I think at the time mentioned, uh, sober, uh, another celebrity that was kind of advising him on sobriety or not advising him, but you know, Encouraging him and he was saying, well look, you know, me and this person we're... She doesn't know what a sponsor is?
01:40:34.000Well, and the point about ums and the thought linkers that I'm doing right now myself, I think is well made, but we are talking about an actress here who has a lot of time in front of camera, has spent their whole time doing interviews.
01:40:48.000So we might actually be seeing who she is now without the thought linkers, like that she just might be that good.
01:43:55.000You guys can comment below and I would love to see your comments because a lot, it is interesting to see this dynamic of specifically women, specifically women who've been abused, but across the board, not buy it.
01:44:09.000And I think the big reason that people are turned off is Johnny Depp did answer questions about himself, about his inner demons, about his flaws, and she is focused on questions about him.
01:44:31.000This doctor was going to be the solution, the cure, you know, uh, and he got, he got brought on board and all of a sudden the plan was that this team would be involved in Johnny's recovery.
01:44:47.000I felt like, Protected you know I'd already by this point heard a million times it seems like a promises to get clean and sober but this felt like a change and They were gonna come to Boston and start working with Johnny and plan was to keep Johnny On a on the same level
01:45:10.000Drugs that he was on since he was filming they needed him to finish filming
01:45:14.000So he was going to be maintained with his prescript with prescription pills including the painkillers
01:45:23.000and The the plan was he would obviously abstain from alcohol
01:45:30.000completely and all other drugs like weed and coke and Then when he finished for someone here's also something for
01:45:37.000someone who's so concerned About and I would say obsessed with Johnny Depp's substance
01:45:43.000abuse issues It really is weird that she was going- because they were only married for, was it a year?
01:51:43.000That's also indicative of fabrication as opposed to just, yeah, he went outside and then he did this and then he did that or something like that.
01:56:15.000It's like a drink, you never know when you have too much of something and it tastes bad, but then you have more of it, and then it tastes good again.
01:58:12.000Another point, he was communicating with someone not in the room.
01:58:18.000This sounds like she's trying to describe psychosis that she read from a textbook, which, by the way, has never been presented anywhere else.
01:58:26.000Remember we were talking about the MMPI-2 test?
01:58:32.000You can at least look at some of the questions, because I know that that was where the psychologist said that she uh, was lying through the test and I was curious about this
01:58:40.000and there are questions like that exactly. Right. Do you speak to people in the room who aren't
01:58:44.000there? Right. Do you see, so it sounds to me like she read through a psychological textbook and
01:58:48.000she's trying to ascribe that to him whereas these are never concerns she brought up before
01:58:56.000I mean, I don't want to give away all the secrets, but questions on there are critical items that nobody responds to correctly, but if they're trying to sound crazy, they will.
01:59:06.000Like, sometimes I see in black and white.
01:59:28.000They make for a fun conversation though, clinically, like I've had clients and you go over the test with them and you'd be like, so sometimes you see black and white, say more.
02:02:02.000I'll allow it, but just... I would have objected.
02:02:05.000That was definitely a compounding question.
02:02:06.000To say two has already been entered into evidence without that reaction, and there wasn't any objection, so I would wish... If I could have both sides to keep track of their evidence, it's not my job to keep Also, I object to Johnny Depp's representation, silly
02:03:39.000And it's often combined with them leaving temporarily and coming back so they put you on your heels and you fear being abandoned while they make you know that if you abandon them they could kill themselves.
02:03:50.000They want to put the responsibility of you on you and the responsibility of them on you.
02:03:57.000I'm not a psychologist, but that's... No, but you're definitely on to something.
02:04:00.000And then there's also the pattern disruption that she would engage in, of like, don't go, don't go, don't go.
02:04:06.000Okay, that breaks him from what he wants to do.
02:04:09.000Then the little thing in your mind, the periaqueductal gray matter, to geek out for a second, makes you notice when your freedom is being inhibited.
02:06:44.000I think they saw what happened yesterday, where she was going off, you know, these soliloquies.
02:06:48.000And then, and then you realize, and this, and they just decided that if she can't do that, she has no sort of factual leg to stand on.
02:06:55.000So let's make her have to stick to the facts.
02:06:59.000So, it's a pretty good contrast to show when she can talk and she can opine, which people saw yesterday and they felt like they were being manipulated, and then today.
02:07:05.000It's a good strategy for the attorney to say, let's make sure now that there's no hearsay allowed, there's no, you know, painting it with a brush of your point of view, let's stick to what is allowable, what is admissible, and she can't do it.