Tonight we re streaming a live Donald Trump Town Hall with Republican voters, and we ve got a special guest, Gerald A. in the studio with us to play the Drinking Game. He s sick, but he s playing his flu game.
00:03:32.000Tonight we're going to be streaming at 8 Eastern because we're in Central so I always have to go through the anguish of adding one.
00:03:39.000They'll be doing a Donald Trump presidential town hall, Republican town hall, with GOP voters, and we'll be streaming it live and live fact-checking the fact-checkers.
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00:05:40.000Anytime you hear any of the above, you take a drink.
00:05:42.000If you hear January 6th, if you hear excuse me, if you hear the words indictment or impeachment, anytime there's a thug life moment, and anytime Donald Trump insults the host, you finish your drink.
00:05:54.000Number two, please, because I don't think that was fair.
00:07:24.000And they changed the statute of limitations just last year so that it would extend into Thanksgiving this year so that they could say that's battery.
00:07:32.000They're going to be bringing that up and they were talking about it today and they said, how does this hurt Trump?
00:07:36.000And Jake Tapper said, along with one of his lackeys, well, you know, for people who are always Trump, they'll still be always Trump, but this may affect the Republicans who are mostly focused on winning a general.
00:07:45.000They don't want to acknowledge that the last two polls have Donald Trump beating Biden in a general, and by more than DeSantis.
00:08:05.000I expect them to not really face up to that fact right now, because the whole narrative is, if you want Donald Trump, okay, he has his base, but he won't win in a general.
00:08:54.000And you made a good point why they have Caitlin Collins.
00:08:56.000And by the way, for those who don't know, Caitlin Collins is the one with hairy forearms at CNN.
00:08:59.000I thought it was a little bit weird because you've got Jake Tapper and you've got Wolf Blitzer, these two, and it's not because they're men.
00:09:10.000A lot of the hosts at CNN weren't men, even though they were men, if you know what I mean.
00:09:17.000I think the problem is that you put kind of an attractive, younger woman out there with Donald Trump, so that if Donald Trump pushes back, like his characteristic thing to do is to push back on the news and call them fake news, it'll look like he's beating up on somebody.
00:09:30.000If it's a guy, it's a different story, right?
00:09:32.000Unless it's Stelter, but they don't bring him back.
00:09:34.000You see him talking trash about Tucker?
00:09:52.000No, so I think what you'll hear a lot of from Caitlin is if there's a legitimate question asked by a Republican voter, right, in the GOP primary, that's the people that are supposed to be in the room, you'll hear a, well, or actually, right, from her to try to press Donald Trump on something where she would never press Joe Biden.
00:10:38.000And when I say she's an insane person, look, this is the person who sued Donald Trump decades later for a rape that didn't happen, but sexual battery, which means he touched her and she didn't like it.
00:12:21.0002017, Daily Caller White House correspondent.
00:12:23.000Moved over to CNN in 2017 and actually said that obviously the Daily Caller, and this is a quote from her, is a more ideologically aligned organization than CNN, which is worldwide and has such a range of coverage.
00:13:06.000You're not, no, excuse me, excuse me, you're not my type.
00:13:08.000Don't take it personally, a lot of people, because my type, frankly, excuse me, is pretty, I like good looking, attractive, I noticed Gerald used that term loosely tonight, Caitlyn, attractive, right?
00:13:22.000Tell me I would never say that and that's my excuse me.
00:13:25.000That's my type and you're frankly not that right Your teeth are too small.
00:13:30.000So it's just it's just personal preference.
00:13:34.000I like feminine women I like women who are good-looking.
00:13:37.000I like women who they're attractive and you're not Ten minutes later she's like, okay.
00:13:48.000So let's show you, this is the person they chose to do this town hall with Donald Trump, who by the way, beats Joe Biden, former Vice President Biden, by a wide margin right now, by even more than DeSantis.
00:13:58.000DeSantis and Donald Trump are within the margin of error as far as by how much they beat Biden, but they are not within the margin of error according to ABC and Washington Post.
00:14:06.000Now two polls in a row in beating Biden.
00:14:10.000I expect this to be a way to try and kneecap Donald Trump, to try and Tonya Harding him before he gets started.
00:14:15.000And that's why they picked the hairy forum lady at CNN.
00:14:18.000Let's show you a montage of their interactions that have been... contentious?
00:14:23.000You ran your campaign promising supporters that Mexico is going to pay for the wall and that the wall was going to be made of concrete.
00:14:30.000You just said earlier that the wall could be made of steel and right now our government is shut down over a demand from your administration that the American taxpayer pay for the wall.
00:14:39.000So how can you say you're not failing on that promise to your supporters?
00:14:43.000A very nice question, so beautifully asked, even though I just answered it.
00:14:47.000Has any governor agreed that you have the authority to decide when their state is going to back up?
00:15:18.000And don't remember, or don't forget, they actually brought her in to kind of co-host the morning show that has been so wonderful with Don Lemon and Poppy Harlow.
00:15:27.000Yes, and there's a montage there but we can go to it later because I think we have to.
00:16:26.000Do you not think he should, would you have advised him not to do I think that Donald Trump, he should have done it just independently is what I think.
00:17:24.000And I think that Donald Trump feels really burned by that because he knows that they were actively trying To collude against him, to use the word, and they were supposed to be out.
00:17:32.000It's very different when someone puts on your team jersey.
00:22:49.000Why should Americans put you back in the White House?
00:22:50.000We got 12 million more votes than we had in, as you know, in 2016.
00:22:55.000I actually say we did far better in that election.
00:22:58.000Got the most that anybody's ever gotten as a sitting president of the United States.
00:23:04.000I think that when you look at that result and when you look at what happened during that election, Unless you're a very stupid person, you see what happens.
00:23:12.000A lot of the people... Is that counted as an insult?
00:27:48.000And unless somebody is very stupid, and I know you very well, you're not stupid at all, but you perhaps are given an agenda or you have an agenda.
00:27:56.000Look, we have to have honest elections in our country.
00:28:15.000They're being released from prisons, they're being released from mental institutions and we have millions of people pouring into our country and now they're getting rid of title 42 which I put on which kept people out that were sick and And Mr. President, we have a lot of questions about immigration to get to tonight.
00:28:31.000Obviously, that's a big topic, especially given what's expected to happen tomorrow.
00:28:35.000But I want to talk about the influence you have over your voters.
00:28:38.000It's very clear that you are very influential over them.
00:28:41.000I've been to many of your rallies and seen it up close, which raised a lot of questions about the influence that we saw that you had on them on January 6th and your support of the attack on Capitol.
00:32:52.000But when it was clear to you that they were not being peaceful, you saw them rushing the Capitol, breaking windows, they were hitting officers with flag poles, tasing them, beating them up.
00:33:02.000When it was clear they weren't being peaceful, Why did you wait three hours to tell them to leave the Capitol?
00:33:08.000You already told them to be peaceful before that.
00:34:04.000And you know, to this day, it hasn't been put up.
00:34:07.000And the reason is it's so good and so conclusive that all of this nonsense and all of the tens of millions of dollars that have been spent are just wiped away with this one. So fact check for her.
00:34:18.000So DC Mayor Muriel, what is it, Bowser or something like that, Bowser requested unarmed guardsmen
00:34:22.000and said they should not help with the protests and evidence does point to Nancy Pelosi denying
00:34:27.000those requests. Of course. From Donald Trump saying, hey, would you like guardsmen? Nope. Why
00:34:31.000would you do that unless you were ready for something to go on? She's on record as saying no.
00:35:57.000I said, even if the votes you mean, I talked to his lawyer, even if the votes are absolutely fraudulent, he can't say, yes, sir, he can say that.
00:36:04.000And the Democrats played it and the rhinos played it.
00:36:13.000But the lawyers were wrong, because right after the election, they all met the rhinos and the Democrats, and they worked out a plan to make sure that future vice presidents don't do What I said you could do.
00:38:16.000I can say for every single one because a couple of them, probably they got out of control.
00:38:22.000But, you know, when you look at Antifa, what they've done to Portland, and if you look at Antifa, look at what they've done to Minneapolis and so many other, so many other places.
00:38:43.000I don't want to just stick on my feet here because I'm going to try and do the stand back and stand by with the Proud Boys, so I'm going to answer it clearly and then move on to something that I know will resonate.
00:39:23.000Mr. President, one of the people who was convicted was a former policeman, but he was convicted of attacking a police officer, I should note.
00:39:30.000But when you said you are considering pardoning a large portion Oh boy.
00:42:07.000And brings him up and within minutes you're playing hanky-panky in a dressing room, okay?
00:42:12.000I don't know if she was married then or not.
00:42:14.000John Johnson, I feel sorry for you, John Johnson.
00:42:19.000He's gotta be careful, he's gotta be careful here.
00:42:24.000Just so you understand, if I was walking in, because I was very famous then, and I owned the Plaza Hotel right next door and I owned buildings around it.
00:42:32.000I'm not going into a dressing room of a crowded department store.
00:42:37.000Then I say, if she was being raped, and by the way, they said she wasn't raped, okay?
00:44:33.000To be fair, there was some argument about it, but there was argument about it enough that they said, we need to make sure there's no leeway here.
00:44:39.000So, you can't say that he was factually incorrect when what he said was factually correct.
00:44:44.000All references are available at LathropSkyler.com.
00:44:45.000There certainly is a gray area, but they eliminated the gray area because they knew it.
00:46:09.000Actually, it fell lower than that in some cases.
00:46:10.000So we're going to talk about gas prices.
00:46:12.000So really quickly, guys, we actually spent a lot of money, spared no expense.
00:46:16.000So really quickly, let's check in with our very first Biden cam and see what former Vice President Joe Biden is up to, because you know this answer.
00:46:22.000If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black.
00:47:14.000By the way, if you're watching right now, wherever you are, hit the rumble button, you can hit share, you can hit like, whatever it is, wherever you are right now, hit that.
00:48:14.000They have lost total control of this town hall to be again manipulated into platforming election disinformation defenses of January 6th and a public attack on a sexual abuse victim this audience is cheering him on and laughing at the host.
00:48:25.000Oh yeah, but when she tries to tweet she sees two screens.
00:48:40.000People right now are struggling, Collins.
00:48:43.000People right now, they're so disconnected from reality.
00:48:45.000People right now can't afford eggs, they can't afford beef.
00:48:49.000People right now, they have their jobs available, but they're shitty jobs because half of the economy, you don't need to fact check that it's not actually half, but the point is, the economy As we knew it was fundamentally changed.
00:48:59.000Restaurants, entertainment venues, these people have lived it.
00:49:02.000And CNN, this is why you just hit an all-time month low in the single 100,000 range.
00:49:09.000I think it was 132,000 was your peak primetime viewership last month because you don't acknowledge what people are living.
00:49:17.000Because they don't know what people are living.
00:50:22.000Biden just, I believe, yesterday, and then they kept running it today on a loop, he said that he's cut the deficit by $1.7 trillion, and what he tried to do is sort of, he tried to parlay that into the debt.
00:50:33.000Look, the debt is the cumulative, which is over $30 trillion right now.
00:50:36.000The deficit means your profits and losses, basically, on an annual basis, right?
00:50:40.000So it's the year, the spending differential.
00:50:43.000$3 trillion the national debt has increased since Biden took office, just to be clear.
00:50:57.000Both presidents, by the way, spent more than they brought in.
00:50:59.000That's a problem that he should address.
00:51:01.000But again, a big part of it was $900 billion was a COVID bill when Donald Trump... They're always going to try and point to his last year, right, to his last portion of his presidency, because that was something that they could engineer under the basis of a pandemic.
00:51:13.000Joe Biden is spending more money, just to be clear.
00:51:15.000Joe Biden's plan increases spending, will increase the debt.
00:51:19.000They don't want to address that, so they say, well, if they're... Joe Biden hasn't answered on cuts.
00:51:55.000With gun violence and mass shootings in the news cycle recently, I'm worried that state governments and the federal government are going to act to repress gun rights.
00:52:02.000Under your administration, you instructed the Department of Justice and the ATF to ban bump stocks.
00:52:08.000If elected President again, how would you act not only to defend our Second Amendment rights, but to restore rights that have been taken from us?
00:52:13.000That's a good question, and a question that a lot of Second Amendment activists would want to ask Donald Trump.
00:53:27.000But in addition to that have security guards, you have to harden your entrances, you have to make schools safe, and you can make other places safe, but it is a big mental health problem in this country more than anything else.
00:53:40.000And remember, we have 700 million guns.
00:54:45.000No new restrictions that you would sign if re-elected, Mr. President.
00:54:48.000I want you to meet Julie Miles, a registered nurse from Merrimack.
00:54:51.000She's a Republican who voted for you in 2012.
00:54:55.000Let me try and rebut you before I go to the question from the person who asked that.
00:54:58.000I appreciate you answering this question this evening.
00:54:59.000How do you plan to appeal to women voters in New Hampshire who are concerned about the Dobbs decision and how states may change their laws?
00:55:06.000It's such a great question and it was such a great victory and people are starting to understand it now.
00:55:13.000You know that they wanted to bring it back to the states but that was probably the least important part of that victory.
00:55:19.000Getting rid of Roe v. Wade was an incredible thing for pro-life because it gave pro-life
00:56:08.000I think it I think it's frankly important to do that.
00:56:11.000But a lot of people are, you know, against that a relatively small, relatively small number.
00:56:17.000But the way the way I look, I think it's very important to say this.
00:56:20.000I consider the other side to be radical because the other side under Roe v. Wade and other things, the other side, they're radical because they will Remember the debate with Hillary Clinton?
00:56:30.000They said, rip the baby out of the womb at the end of the ninth month.
00:56:34.000They will kill the baby in the ninth month.
00:56:37.000If you look at that crazy governor of Virginia from the former governor, where he said, no, the baby will be born and then we'll decide, essentially, whether or not to execute the baby.
00:56:46.000But Mr. President, can we talk about what you would do if you were re-elected?
00:56:51.000But if you are re-elected and you're back in the Oval Office and you get legislation to your desk, would you sign a federal abortion ban into law?
00:56:58.000What I'll do is negotiate so that people are happy.
00:57:01.000But the fact that we were able, I was able, I'm so proud of it.
00:57:04.000We put three great justices on the Supreme Court.
00:58:00.000You don't have to cater to them anymore.
00:58:02.000This is a masterclass in bypassing gatekeepers.
00:58:05.000To piggyback on that, would you say he's the first candidate in the history of this country that will actually benefit from how unfairly he's treated by the media?
00:58:14.000The harder they go, the more his ratings will jump because Americans, no matter where they are, like fair play.
00:58:22.000And when they see a violation of fair play, they kind of instead And you know what they really hate?
00:58:58.000People that will kill a baby in the 9th month, or the 8th month, or the 7th month, or after the baby is born, they're the radicals, not the pro-electors.
00:59:39.000Every single person who has run for the Democratic nomination in the last two elections And other Republican presidents, and others by the way, they wanted to get it out.
00:59:58.000They also wanted to bring it back to the states.
01:00:00.000But bringing it back to the states is a less important issue than the issue that we just talked about.
01:00:23.000Alright, really quickly, as they're about to go to a commercial break, we spared no expense and I believe that we sent somewhere here, I want to make sure that I have this right, that he's set up and he's ready to go.
01:00:34.000Thomas Finnegan is actually, yep, we have Thomas Finnegan.
01:00:37.000We sent him down to the town hall on the ground for the commercial break.
01:02:21.000national debt will balloon by nearly $20 trillion over the next decade under the spending outlined by President Biden in his $6.9 trillion budget proposal.
01:02:33.000Well, if you put it over 10 years, it doesn't matter.
01:02:35.000Also, mass shootings were lower under Donald Trump by almost half.
01:02:40.000I don't know why she was asking him questions about Biden's policies that have led to more mass shootings because his mass shooting numbers were far lower.
01:02:47.000I can answer that because, excuse me, she's a lying whore.
01:02:53.000If I had to answer that, I would never say that by the way.
01:02:55.000I think she's very nice, but that's what people tell me.
01:03:50.000I have to go use the uh the little boys room so let's really quickly let's check in really quickly uh and then I'll be back you guys can uh and then you can go after me.
01:04:00.000So again we spared no expense uh for the second time do we have the cameras live at the Biden former vice president Biden White House.
01:04:57.000We learned on May 2nd that the Biden administration plans on deploying 1,500 troops to the southern border.
01:05:03.000Do you agree with deploying troops to the border, and how will a Trump administration slow down the rate of migrants coming across all our borders?
01:05:09.000I want to see what he says here, because there's a lot of BS.
01:05:50.000So Biden already, just to give you some facts, Biden already has two times as many border encounters as Trump did during his entire time in office.
01:05:57.000We should ask him to take the front door off his house.
01:09:18.000Millions of people are coming into our country.
01:09:20.000And you know what the number is going to be, in my opinion, by the end of the year?
01:09:23.000Not the 4 million that you hear and the 3 million.
01:09:26.000I think it's going to be 15 million people.
01:09:28.000And in these people, they have no idea where they come from.
01:09:31.000They come from 129 different countries so far.
01:09:33.000120, not just the four that we talked about.
01:09:35.000Mr. President, just to put a button on that, it sounds like what you're saying is that you're not ruling out re-implementing that immigration policy.
01:09:44.000She always has to get the last word in.
01:09:47.000Nothing like perpetuating a negative stereotype, white lady.
01:09:50.000Hello President Trump, thank you so much for coming.
01:09:53.000The current administration has made it clear that we should continue to provide military equipment to Ukraine so that they can defend themselves.
01:10:01.000Do you support this decision and how would you deal with the increasing threat posed by Vladimir Putin?
01:10:57.000He'll disabuse people of a certain notion that the moderator, or the conductor, whatever you want to call her, tries to instill in the audience.
01:11:05.000and then he drives it home with something unrelated but also leaves a mark like
01:11:08.000there was tons of dead wood and everywhere this is what happened i
01:11:11.000replaced it they say 52 this is the game that they play they didn't want to fund
01:11:15.000it he'll go through it and then be like termites And then go back.
01:11:19.000Just so, and then people remember that.
01:12:27.000He had eight years of Obama, then he had three years of Donald Trump.
01:12:29.000One last year was engineered, of course.
01:12:30.000That's the number they try to point to as far as what they try to point to as his failure for presidency is the engineered pandemic of COVID.
01:12:36.000Um, and then you have another, after this you'll have four years of Biden.
01:13:24.000The things they try to attack him on, people like him, and then what they try and use as this sort of fail-safe, like, yeah, but international policy.
01:13:31.000You need someone with an even temperament.
01:13:33.000He's proven them wrong through eight, three years, and another four.
01:13:37.000Because the way they describe the world, the way they describe the world is not what we see in our everyday life.
01:13:42.000It just doesn't, we're just like, I know, what are they talking about?
01:14:29.000Let me ask you something really quickly, okay?
01:14:31.000And I'd like to see, maybe we can put, I guess we can't put this to a poll, but you can tweet me and you can use the hashtag CrowderTownHall.
01:14:37.000Would you rather a world where Donald Trump Donald Trump starts with the presupposition that Putin and Xi Jinping are smart, or would you rather a world where former Vice President Joe Biden assumes they're dumb?
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01:23:15.000But that's the question that investigators have, I think, is why you held on to those documents when you knew the federal government was seeking them and then giving you a subpoena to return them.
01:26:17.000i did nothing wrong it was the perfect phone call let me finish my question
01:26:22.000With the Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger, given the fact that there are indictments expected to come in that case this summer, is that a call you would make again today?
01:26:32.000Yeah, I called questioning the election.
01:27:06.000And if this call was bad, why didn't him and his lawyers hang up?
01:27:10.000The place where the pipe burst and they took out the, sorry, not suitcases, because we'll be fact-checked, the cases that look remarkably like carry-on suitcases with ballots.
01:28:12.000Well, I'm the one that really wants to protect you.
01:28:14.000All of these fake investigations of me are about election interference.
01:28:18.000They think because I'm leading Biden by 11 points, 7 points, 9 points, I'm leading DeSanctimonious by a lot.
01:28:27.000By 40 points, or 45 points, I think you ought to just relax and take it easy and think about the future, because right now his future's not looking so good.
01:28:34.000I will tell you this, we are really putting it to Biden, but he's putting it to himself.
01:32:02.000It wasn't a Donald Trump quote, it was a Stalin quote initially.
01:32:05.000Anderson Cooper, this press, is the enemy of the people.
01:32:07.000They flat out lie in order to try and re-engineer society.
01:32:11.000When Anderson Cooper, sorry, pardon my language, if you have kids watching, they shouldn't be up this late anyway, fuck that guy.
01:32:16.000He was found guilty of sexually abusing, nope, that is a lie, and you either have to believe that Anderson Cooper Is so dumb, he doesn't know that it's a lie, or he is deliberately trying to run interference because his little friend, who he probably has cocktail hour with, or wind down Wednesday parties with, just got her hat handed to her.
01:34:18.000intentionally to his supporters and plans to do that and I don't really see
01:34:22.000anything that's changed about Trump, frankly. I mean between when he left the White
01:34:26.000House and today. So his aides can say what they want, but Trump is not.
01:34:31.000Some things did change. The economy tanked and Americans know it. So your guy, and yes I
01:34:36.000mean your guy, is losing. Your guy is losing. You just said, think about that for a second.
01:34:42.000Pierre used to do this, where people would give him crap, where every opponent he would face, he was a fighter, and some people would talk trash, right?
01:36:12.000Remember what I told you at the beginning of the show?
01:36:13.000Maybe we can bring it back up for Mug Club.
01:36:14.000I said they are going to fundamentally start With the presupposition, which is a lie.
01:36:19.000They are not going to acknowledge that all of the recent polls have not only Trump beating Biden, but beating him by a greater margin than Ron DeSantis.
01:36:27.000Wherever you line up, that's just a fact.
01:36:29.000And they right now are calling it the Trump Paradox.
01:36:32.000They want you to try and have a civil war within the Republican Party where you go, oh, maybe I want Trump, but DeSantis is more electable.
01:41:18.000Anything from a gentle but unwanted peck on the cheek To stabbing somebody with a knife could be battery for purposes of a civil case like this one.
01:41:29.000So in other words, it could be me greeting my aunt at Thanksgiving, kissing her on the cheek, or the guy in Warriors saying, maybe we should run a train on you.
01:43:38.000Everybody's trying to look super smart.
01:43:41.000In one way, my thoughts were summarized by the previous panel.
01:43:46.000But I will say, anyone who has been paying attention and expected Donald Trump to be anything other than what he was tonight, really has misread the situation.
01:44:56.000And if you are a voter who is looking at next November and thinking, you're dreading... She's the Republican strategist and pollster, right?
01:46:05.000Donald Trump is unfit, unwell, unimproved, and still good enough to mess you up in a general according to every single recent poll, you dumb, bald-headed prick.
01:49:04.000Can I just say something really quickly?
01:49:06.000The jarred lady that was speaking just a moment ago, she said, oh, you're going to start that inhumane process of taking kids away from parents.
01:49:14.000One, if you don't want your kids taken from you, do not try to cross the border illegally.
01:49:18.000Second point is do you know why they do that?
01:49:21.000Because a lot of people come across the border with child sex slaves and say they're my children to be able to get special treatment and preferential treatment and they separate you from the parents to make sure that they're not gang raped and also to make sure that the story checks out so maybe if you did a little research you would understand they're actually trying to help Sex.
01:51:11.000This is a disaster, because initially with Ukraine, Joe Biden wanted to give Vladimir Zelensky... By the way, of course I'm not going to eat a dog, just to be clear.
01:51:20.000And it wasn't until people in Moscow, in Ukraine, here in the United States, said this invasion is wrong, that Joe Biden reversed course.
01:54:07.000And questions about the last election and the insurrection should be part of the discussion now, but since the president was there... By the way, also notice they put up their lower thirds and not his.
01:58:37.000So let me just kind of clarify something for you, and then we're going to go to Mug Club and take your chats.
01:58:41.000What they just did, and I've talked about this quite a few times, because I got called in, by the way, to the second floor at Fox News, and second floor is where the executives work.
01:58:49.000What David Axelrod just did, it's the opposite of stand-up, right?
01:58:52.000You know the old quote in comedy is, I didn't learn comedy when I learned how to write.
01:58:56.000I learned comedy when I learned how to edit.
01:59:04.000What David Axelrod has been doing, what Van Jones has been doing, what Mrs. Tweety Bird, I've been jarred, is doing, is trying to buy up as much time as possible Before they ask a question.
01:59:15.000They're trying to buy as much, take up as much air time as possible when they have an opponent who they know overmatches them.
01:59:21.000I had this when I would appear on Fox News.
01:59:24.000There was, I had a debate segment for I want to say it was a year with Alicia Menendez, Senator Bob Menendez's daughter.
01:59:56.000And then rather than an argument, I remember one time specifically, it was tossed to me.
02:00:01.000She said something like, and I don't know where Stephen got his college degree in the political sciences, and I responded with, never graduated grade school, what's your point?
02:01:41.000But that's because you as a performer, you just know that the minute you start lying, the minute you start thinking that the audience is not as smart as you are, you are in big trouble.
02:01:52.000And the audience, the biggest mistake you can make as a performer is to think that your jokes or your performance or what you're saying is going to be over their head and you have to dumb it down.
02:02:03.000Huge mistake, and that's what I see with CNN all the time.
02:02:06.000They say things that people, including the people that watch CNN, look at and go, it's not jiving with reality, man.
02:02:12.000You're trying to pull a fast one on me.
02:02:14.000That's what they do, especially when they start talking a lot like Axelrod.
02:02:26.000What you should do, if you want to edu- Gerald, you know this, when we do this show, we've- we've- basic- our blueprint is, watch what they do, and let's do the opposite.
02:02:34.000They don't provide any- any- any evidence, we're going to make sure that all of our references are publicly available.
02:02:39.000Everything is pre-taped and edited, we're going to do it live.
02:02:42.000Oh, they want to take up as much time to make one point as possible, we're going to give you two, three, or four, and allow you to then deep dive it as much as you want, because they don't serve you, they serve themselves.
02:02:51.000It's someone who likes to hear themselves talk.
02:02:54.000That's what you saw tonight, and you saw the con- and by the way, of course Donald Trump likes to hear himself talk, but he's talking directly to the American public.
02:03:02.000He wasn't talking to Caitlin Collins tonight, which I think was a very smart strategy on his part.
02:03:35.000At least with CNN, People see who he's fighting.
02:03:39.000I think Donald Trump understood that if he would appear on Fox News, he would give them a platform, he would legitimize them, and he would legitimize the underhanded attacks.
02:03:47.000I'm telling you that when I was at Fox News, it was a Romney-Obama election.
02:03:53.000It was made known in no uncertain terms.
02:04:14.000And if you go and watch the coverage, it was very clear.
02:04:16.000They have made it clear, in no uncertain terms, that there is a hit out on Donald Trump, to try and kneecap him, to try and take him out, because he is now, for the first time, and maybe it's a result of ego.
02:04:26.000Light has been shined on Fox News right now for what they are.
02:04:28.000And tonight, at least Don... Sorry, I was about to say Don Lemon.
02:04:32.000At least Donald Trump knew who he was fighting.
02:04:48.000It's very important, and by the way, there's a huge value in having battle lines drawn, in having, not saying that all Republicans are good and all Democrats are bad, before you fence-sitters try and tell me, the two-party system, man, go to a parliamentary system, see how that works out, but there is a value in seeing a delineation in team jerseys and going, okay, you know what, hold on, at least I know where CNN lines up because I've heard everything that they've said, and Donald Trump is the other guy.
02:05:13.000You have a whole panel of people A representative from Florida, and Donald Trump is the other guy.
02:05:18.000Whereas on Fox News they would try and say, well you know, it's like the Anna Navarro thing, I'm a Republican except for every single policy, and I hate Donald Trump, and he's racist, and I can't believe Ben Jones took a picture with Candace Owens, I'm a Republican!
02:05:52.000I want to see where you guys line up here tonight.
02:05:54.000I will say this, myself, sorry, I'm leading the witness.
02:05:59.000Unless DeSantis takes it hard to the media on election integrity, unless DeSantis takes it hard to the media on their bias and on, you know, for example, the double standard of classified documents, all that, but particularly election integrity.
02:06:14.000I would vote for Donald Trump in the primaries.
02:06:16.000If Donald Trump performs like he did tonight, it is over.
02:06:19.000I'm not talking about performance, I'm saying that's required for me, that's mandatory for a Republican candidate to say, we need to have election integrity in this country.
02:06:27.000So when I say performance, I don't mean just the performance, I mean answering the hard questions, I mean having the positions that he holds, and also being able to point back and be like, Donald Trump 2019 is what you'll be getting in round two.
02:06:39.000You'll be getting the economy that I brought you for three years before COVID hit and before the world turned upside down, the most kind of jarring experience this generation, if I can borrow a term, has ever experienced.
02:12:23.000Because no one would argue this, right?
02:12:26.000Including, they just said it tonight, using words like chaos, using words like Donald Trump has no respect, you know, for the rule of law or order.
02:13:02.000They want to control the past, they want to control history, they want to control which history you... They want to control what is considered the truth, and when that's not allowed, they want to control new legislation to determine what is truthful, and we just heard the lies tonight.
02:13:13.000Donald Trump is unco... If there is nothing else of value from Donald Trump, if you're a DeSantis person, and by the way, I like both of them to be clear.
02:13:21.000I want both of them to play a role in national politics.
02:13:27.000Donald Trump, and I'll leave you with this, and by the way, you can go to lidowwithcrowder.com slash MugClub.
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02:13:53.000If there's nothing else to take from tonight, Both the left and the right are saying it, but in two different ways.
02:14:00.000And you can like this, you can love it, you can hate it, you can take it or leave it.
02:14:04.000The left has admitted they are obsessed with control.
02:14:11.000And speaking of someone who is imminently controllable, before we go to Mug Club, and by the way, if you're watching on Rumble, just hit that little button right there.
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02:14:20.000I don't know how long we're going to be going tonight.
02:14:23.000Let's check in our last, we spared no expense, we paid for it.
02:14:29.000We have our own camera right now at the White House.
02:14:31.000Check in what's going on with President Biden.
02:14:34.000And if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black.