Gibbon, a half-Asian, half-Welsh lawyer, comes on the show to defend the rights of his client, Gerald A. Wojciechowski, a former Marine who served in the Korean War.
00:03:42.000Right, so to be clear, Heart Island is actually where any unclaimed bodies without necks of kin are buried, regardless of what they die from.
00:03:49.000So they've been using it for this purpose since 1881.
00:03:52.000Around a million people are buried there.
00:03:54.000So I just want to be clear, you can kind of hear a portion of the story with COVID, but not the entirety of it, certainly not the context, and that matters.
00:04:02.000So we're going to get to the death rates, and I want to talk about this quite a bit because everyone just got really quiet.
00:04:20.000Yeah, no, it's not a good way to put it, because I'm not going to get out of here alive, but I would rather get out of here, like, have 85 years before I get out of here.
00:04:45.000But it turns out, I noticed the other day when we were doing the Janki video game livestream, Gibbon was, I mean, I turned to you, I said, man, you got some sun.
00:05:02.000Okay, so we want to test this because race is not imaginary, it's real, and so this morning we are going to lead this off and have a countdown timer to see how long it takes to get to the point of Rosacea.
00:07:06.000And I want to know, this is something I'm very curious about to people out there, how many people watching right now, does anyone have coronavirus?
00:07:13.000Do you have any of you actually contracted COVID-19?
00:07:15.000I forget the number sometimes, like what are we on?
00:07:25.000This is anecdotal, but of course we see the data and sometimes you don't, you know, you don't realize what's going on until you see how it affects Real folks.
00:07:34.000Name that movie line, people out there.
00:08:44.000While we're talking about this and we say, but you should really trust the medical advisors, don't trust Donald Trump, well, as we're talking about the actual death rates, let's go to Dr. Burks.
00:08:55.000Can you talk about your concerns about deaths being misreported by coronavirus because of either testing or standards or how they're characterized?
00:09:06.000So I think in this country, we've taken a very liberal approach to mortality.
00:10:30.000So how many people are dying just from the flu?
00:10:32.000And I noticed, we can have this overlay right here, this is the CDC image, that flu deaths and pneumonia, they've gone down to effectively zero.
00:10:48.000I wanted to assume, as usual, that I'm wrong, but Reg, our researcher, is very smart.
00:10:53.000And he said, yes, Steven, you are wrong.
00:10:55.000When I've discovered something, I have this I have this phobia, and it's because when I was a kid and I went to summer camp and they had a prize for someone who invents something, and you just had to make it out of pipe cleaners, and what I did was I made a dog feeder where the dog pushes a button and the pipe cleaner pushes open a cereal box and it feeds him.
00:11:38.000Because so many, most people who are going in for COVID testing aren't actually getting tested for COVID because they're reserving the test for the people who are higher risk or showing severe symptoms, but they have enough flu tests.
00:11:49.000So all of those people are being tested for the flu.
00:11:51.000So yes, 100% We are doing more flu tests.
00:13:13.000And keep in mind, too, also 7% to 15% of all flu deaths every year are some form of coronavirus.
00:13:18.000Not this novel coronavirus, but some form of coronavirus.
00:13:20.000That's why your Lysol and your mat cleaner says, hey, it kills coronavirus.
00:13:26.000We've had 17,000 deaths recorded from coronavirus.
00:13:30.000So what this is telling us right now is that all of those flu deaths, all of those pneumonia deaths, they're all being counted as coronavirus.
00:14:19.000In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID-19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely, compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty, it is acceptable to report COVID-19 under death certificate as probable or presumed.
00:14:33.000In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgment in determining if a COVID-19 infection was likely.
00:14:57.000Not only are they all being registered as COVID-19 deaths, but doctors can also—there you go, that was a chart from earlier, the flu's dropping down—but they can also make a guess that, well, we assume that person died from COVID-19.
00:15:16.000Do you not think for a second that some leftist activist who also happens to work in a hospital in New York is not going to take every single opportunity possible to try and label this a COVID-19 death if they are not required to actually show any proof of a positive test?
00:15:31.000Just think of what the media does with this.
00:15:34.000One more thing, and then I want to go back.
00:16:55.000For all we know, we could have two, three, four, ten times the amount of people right now out there with COVID-19.
00:17:01.000We cannot guess, we cannot estimate, but we can throw out numbers if we think within a reasonable I guess sort of barometer of suspicion that they could have had COVID-19, we list it as a COVID-19 death.
00:18:43.000So right now, if you total up flu deaths from this year, which dropped down to zero when he had this COVID pandemic, a total of 39,000 if you add up COVID and flu.
00:18:54.000So if you add up all of the flu deaths right now, all of the pneumonia deaths, all of the COVID-19 deaths, it is still not as high as a slightly severe flu season.
00:19:05.000Now I'm not saying it won't get higher than that, but we don't, not saying it's comparable to the flu as far as how easy it can be transmitted, but We don't shut down the entire economy for that number, not even close.
00:19:17.000And this is with the books being cooked.
00:19:19.000And you'd correct me if you think I'm wrong.
00:19:21.000I think if you are allowed to guess, if you lump all deaths under COVID-19, regardless of what other comorbidities are there, and then you're allowed to guess and say, let's chalk it up as COVID-19, but you cannot do it with the actual infections, I think that's dishonest and the American people should know.
00:19:34.000Why is it considered journalistic malpractice to let the American public in on positive news?
00:19:42.000And I think the whole point to this is that we're all willing to make a sacrifice.
00:19:46.000We're all willing to do what we need to do to stop some kind of threat.
00:19:49.000But the response needs to be in proportion to the threat.
00:19:52.000And right now, we don't understand the threat.
00:19:53.000And so when you come at me with two and a half million deaths early on, that means, if you extrapolate it out, about 100 million people in this country, of 360-ish million, 350, whatever it is, are going to get this virus.
00:20:04.000Where in China, even if they were lying by a factor of 10, they had a million?
00:20:09.000You're telling me we're going to have a hundred times what China had, and two and a half million are going to die?
00:20:13.000None of it made any sense, but that's the number that we use to say, oh God, we have to close everything.
00:20:22.000I think if you actually want to know the number of people who are young, and I don't even mean under 50, and relatively healthy, these people could still be overweight, by the way.
00:20:30.000I'm not talking about the abuse of health, but people who don't have severe conditions.
00:20:33.000Now, again, what did we do on this program?
00:20:35.000We said, it could get really bad, but there's some politics at play.
00:20:37.000Then I had my doctor on, Dr. Choi, who's Korean.
00:20:39.000We talked about it, told people what precautions they could take.
00:20:40.000death is actually significantly higher than I think we will ever reach as far as young
00:22:15.000Once you're in the kitchen center, be on the lookout for some emergency responders who are cleaning up an earlier incident involving a microwave and aluminum foil.
00:26:06.000We're helping out Joe Biden's campaign by adding to those deaths.
00:26:10.000Hey, and by the way, please do hit the notification bell if you are subscribed, and if you haven't joined Mug Club yet, at loudmouthcrowder.com slash Mug Club.
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00:27:21.000Um, so the Trump-Chloroquine thing, we actually remember we said, well we don't want to title it Chloroquine because people don't... Oh wait, hold on a second.
00:27:27.000We should check in with CNN a little bit.
00:27:29.000Every continent except Antarctica impacted by COVID-19.
00:28:04.000When you have, they go, oh, there's zero scientific evidence.
00:28:06.000Well, there's actually quite a bit of evidence, many hundreds of people.
00:28:10.000We've seen different, we've seen a variance in the rates of efficacy in these different sort of, they're not double blind clinical trials, but they're about as good as you can get for an already approved drug that can be prescribed off label.
00:28:21.000And now over 6,000 doctors signed a petition.
00:28:25.0006,000 doctors signed on saying this was a drug that they actually supported.
00:28:28.000It's being used in hospitals across the country.
00:28:30.000Don't you just love that Michigan, and I think Nevada, put a ban?
00:28:33.000They said, we're not going to give that to our people.
00:28:34.000And they said, sorry, I meant the opposite.
00:28:40.000I think what's interesting is, you know, when you read these articles that are attacking the folks, they're like, oh, I can't believe you would tout this terrible drug.
00:28:48.000You're not a doctor news person who's reporting it.
00:28:51.000But the Trump and the news outlets that are reporting on the effect of treatment are always reporting about doctors.
00:28:59.000The numbers they're getting are from Trump's briefing.
00:29:02.000All over the country, who are saying, hey, I'm not saying it works for everyone, and certainly there are individuals to which it will be ineffective, but we are doing it, and the evidence that we see, the empirical evidence is, it's working.
00:29:14.000And what's crazy is when I watch CNN, and I hate that I do it, but I'm doing this for you.
00:29:19.000Please do join Mug Club, otherwise... Reload, and then I don't want... It can't be a Walther because I can't get in trouble with my sponsor.
00:29:25.000But if I kill myself from watching too much CNN, it will be a competitor's firearm.
00:29:36.000What's our standard for information right now?
00:29:37.000Because people are giving him a hard time for saying, hold on, let me play this out, they're giving him a hard time for saying there's a possibility that this could be beneficial, let's look at it.
00:29:45.000We get numbers all the time that start out at two and a half million deaths, 240,000 deaths, and we're like, oh no, that's good, we're fine taking that kind of variance, but Donald Trump says it might be a helpful thing to use.
00:29:55.000That's a good point, there's far less variance in all of the trials or studies, there's far less variance out there for chloroquine than there is variance in the death rates.
00:30:03.000And what's funny is when they report on it, I'll watch CNN and they'll say, Oh, Dr. Trump, uh, sorry, President Trump.
00:30:09.000You've been so drunk, I'm getting drunk by osmosis just around him.
00:30:43.000And I saw this, I think it was yesterday, saying Donald Trump ignoring the advice of, you know, medical professionals who now predict the death rate 60,000.
00:30:50.000And then they show a clip from Dr. Fauci.
00:31:58.000Anyone out there who's going to criticize him for being invested in one of the largest French manufacturers of pharmaceuticals, Sanofi, every one of you who has a mutual fund, you're probably in it as well.
00:33:49.000So when we're talking about vested interest in a mutual fund, $99 to $1,000, compare that to the vested interest that New York Times has.
00:33:58.000When you look at the money that's exchanged hands with Democratic donors, when you look at people who have actually worked in administrations that are either now reporters or have been op-ed journalists at the New York Times.
00:34:09.000You just look at any of these people at the New York Times, not to mention, remember their probability numbers that they had at the election?
00:34:16.000It was 99 point something percent that Hillary Clinton would win the election.
00:34:19.000And like we've said, just like with COVID-19, numbers matter, and obviously facts do exist.
00:34:26.000But you can also try and manipulate them to change public behavior.
00:34:29.000That's what happened with the election.
00:34:31.000They were hoping that people would just feel completely depressed, completely devastated, that they wouldn't have any fight in them and come out and vote for Donald Trump.
00:37:13.000Yeah, so for the death rates, they're guessing at the top number of the fraction and the bottom number of the fraction, but they're reporting all their guesses.
00:37:20.000But if you know that Trump can only make like a hundred bucks from this whole thing, you're not going to report that number.
00:37:25.000You're not going to say how much he owns or anything else.
00:38:31.000By the way, we've gone through the clinical data.
00:38:33.000We've had clinical studies where they haven't been controlled because if someone actually has severe COVID, right, they don't want to run the risk of receiving a placebo.
00:38:43.000But we have studied pretty big, we have pretty big sample sizes in multiple different instances now in people, and it does seem to consistently be working.
00:38:51.000Again, thousands of doctors have signed on saying, this is actually something that we want to use.
00:38:56.000It was by far and away, there was a poll, the most effective treatment when doctors were polled.
00:39:00.000So not even people who proactively signed on to say, this needs to be a part of the protocol.
00:39:04.000Then when they were asked, doctors said, yeah, hydroxychloroquine with the Z-Pak is most effective.
00:39:15.000Then they also did study it in vitro, like in a petri dish, where they think they found the sort of novel mechanism of action as to why it might work.
00:39:23.000And it may not be the antiviral capabilities.
00:39:25.000It actually may be some kind of mediation of the inflammatory response, specifically as it relates to the immune system.
00:41:16.000Based on previous projections that have been subject to change and now can be verified, the CDC has officially, and this can be held legally accountable, changed their COVID estimate of deaths to four.
00:41:32.000We'll keep you abreast as this story unfolds.
00:45:42.000They were quarantined, and they actually received death threats from Australian people that thought that they had brought this virus to their area.
00:46:07.000And I'm not saying that there aren't cases where it's bad, but I'm asking because everyone that I've known who's had it, it's been a cough.
00:47:17.000People don't realize that's when you first came on the show.
00:47:19.000Before you were on the show, I would ask you questions about the Bible, theology, and sort of Islam, because I know that you taught some of these courses at churches.
00:48:42.000And so knowing that someone is doing it with an intent to actually bring people closer together, and the part that I think is the most hilarious about it is most slurs that are used are actually some basis of the words that are used between the people within that race anyways.
00:52:30.000I did, just because you're drunk and I figured I could say it without getting in trouble, whereas if I said it to Bill, he could use it against me someday.
00:53:53.000And then I realized it was kind of one of those, it wasn't a religious thing, I just wanted to have read the whole Bible, but then unfortunately, I forgot.
00:54:00.000Look, Jacob's Ladder, I can tell you more about the horror film than the story in the Bible.
00:55:54.000But when it came to addressing the Rhett and Link podcast, where they effectively are trying to drive thousands of young people away from Christ, that's really what they're doing.
00:56:02.000As a Christian, I don't think that's a good thing.
00:57:41.000But actually, that is one of the things I'm sure... Did someone get a bat in here?
00:57:46.000Everyone at home right now is like, you know, I never called it a curlicue.
00:57:51.000But I know exactly what he's talking about.
00:57:53.000I will tell you this story, because it's absolutely true.
00:57:56.000When I was a kid, I was... I don't remember many things from before three years old, but I was two years old and I remember this.
00:58:00.000I was just telling Gibbon, I drank an entire... Like, I should have permanent liver damage because I drank an entire bottle of Tylenol twice.
00:58:43.000So anyway, I did a lot of things like that when I was a kid, but I do remember, you know, I used to take, when I was two, I would have been two, my brother might have been, yeah, four, we would take baths together.
00:58:52.000And so my mom takes my brother out of the bath, she's toweling him off.
00:58:55.000I'm like, Mom, I gotta go to the bathroom.
00:58:58.000Sorry, I don't know if I should not tell this.
00:59:26.000And so whatever's in the bathtub starts going around.
00:59:28.000So I'm standing there while she's toweling off my brother, and I can see the pointy poop coming around, and I'm picturing, like, a scorpion.
00:59:35.000I remember it looked like a scorpion's tail.
01:00:16.000I didn't even know we could use that term.
01:00:18.000Yeah, but we've bent over backwards to be kind, and if you listened to our entire discussion, you understood that, one, we were first and foremost concerned for them, like, hey man, we're really sorry that you ended up in this place.
01:00:29.000We said that we loved them, invited them on the show, that you're more than welcome to come on the show, we would love to speak with Rhett and Link.
01:00:35.000And I read some comments that said, you know, Steven must have been triggered, because he sounded, you know, blah blah blah, and I was like, triggered?
01:01:13.000Well, they said one of them that he did.
01:01:15.000You don't want to know what gummy worm is best?
01:01:19.000So a couple of things here that I think are really important, and then we do have to get going and we do have to hook giving up to an IV drip.
01:01:31.000First off, they're really concerned about being brand safe.
01:01:33.000I'm not sure if calling someone a piece of shit is brand safe, but maybe on YouTube it's brand safe as long as you do it with the right people.
01:01:38.000Because we've been specifically told nothing that involves piece of shit will ever be monetized or advertiser friendly.
01:02:10.000But the brand safe thing, that's what we're going to talk about on Mass Monday, that's not a value, that's not a principle, that's not a virtue.
01:02:14.000And it's the same argument that they use to make the case that all churches will be allowing gay marriage because otherwise they'll die.
01:03:33.000And then after that, so we can bring this up right here, I think we have a screen recording, we don't need the audio, you can just use it as b-roll.
01:03:38.000Then I realized that none of the comments were showing up.
01:03:41.000Now here's the thing that's kind of, and we use ExpressVPN by the way, go to expressvpn.com slash Crowder, you get a discount.
01:04:17.000I would love to have them on the show.
01:04:18.000Just because we disagree on the premises of theology, philosophy, does not mean that we can't respectfully disagree and have civil dialogue.
01:04:26.000So to me, that's hit-and-run cowardice.
01:04:33.00016 million subscribers, obviously a bigger channel.
01:04:35.000When we rebut points and we use biblical verses and we rebut it theologically and say, well, we think that this is actually incorrect and we would love to talk about this if they want to.
01:04:44.000Otherwise, we're going to continue doing Mass Mondays, which we do behind the paywall, doing Mug Club every single week.
01:04:48.000This isn't something new that was exclusive to Rhett and Link.
01:04:52.000And then they respond with, haha, what a piece of shit, on a channel with four times the subscribers, and then hide comments that are civil and respectful.
01:05:03.000And not only that, that also tells you that there's no interest in a dialogue.
01:05:07.000When they said, when Rhett and Link said, we really hope that us coming out and talking about our deconstruction encourages discourse or dialogue.
01:05:16.000Do you mean a group of Christian people saying that they love you and they wish the best for you and that they disagree with you and hope that maybe you might look into some of these arguments and do some research and see why there's validity to it?
01:05:25.000And then say, we respectfully invite you onto the show.
01:05:27.000We would love to talk about it as brothers in the Lord and a spirit of love.
01:05:31.000Then you call them a piece of shit and they say, ha ha ha, that's kind of funny.
01:05:33.000I would still gladly and respectfully host you on the show.
01:06:39.000Because they can't actually address the opinions themselves.
01:06:42.000They can't address the points and the arguments and the verses.
01:06:45.000in the scripture that were brought up during that rebuttal.
01:06:47.000And if their position was so strong, they would have been ready to be able to do it.
01:06:52.000But they weren't ready for those types of arguments that attack their position, and so the only thing they have is, Lord, a piece of shit.
01:07:00.000And even if they didn't see the Mass Monday, even if they were just responding to you as the cultural figure, then The only argument that she made, if it was an argument, was he sat outside of TCU with a sign that said, male privilege is a myth.
01:07:24.000By the way, do you know how I know rape culture is a myth?
01:07:26.000Because I'm informed by a Christian worldview and also the history of Western civilization, which was founded on Christian principles, unlike Islamic societies or Buddhist societies or Taoists.
01:08:33.000But if my name left your lips, it's cowardly to do a parting shot and then delete any record of someone responding.
01:08:41.000Especially, and I think, by the way, Especially when it's respectful.
01:08:44.000If we weren't respectful, if we were responding in kind, they probably would have left it up and said, see, I think the fact that we were saying, hey, hey, hey, I don't harbor any ill will, I can't even show you the comments because I've disappeared, but I would love to respectfully host them on the show, that actually makes them more inclined.
01:08:59.000I think that Rhett and Link, we're going to do this on Monday, another Mass Monday, and I want to be clear, Rhett and Link, when I came up on YouTube, like I've been on YouTube since 2007, they started early on, first movers.
01:09:10.000But I do think that Rhett and Link are going to be surprised as to how much they come out of this the bad guy.
01:09:18.000Because I know I'm like the supervillain, the Vox Apocalypse, where YouTube had the change policy and I say naughty words and Rhett and Link are brand safe.
01:09:25.000But I think people can smell it on you when they sense cowardice, when they sense bullying.
01:09:31.000And by the way, a 16 million channel responding viciously to a respectful rebuttal That's bullying.
01:09:39.000I don't know how that works into your deconstruction because you thought the Christians weren't empathetic, but you're bullies.
01:09:44.000You're cowardly bullies, and I would love to hash this.
01:09:47.000We don't have to, but I'm just letting them know.
01:09:49.000We're going to talk about it Monday and be very respectful.
01:09:51.000I was going to say that we're not the only ones that think this, though, because in the comments, if you go through... Yeah, a lot of those are hidden as well, though.
01:11:08.000And when you see someone who says, I know people will say this and they try to cut it off of the past, but they don't have a valid argument.
01:11:14.000That's how you understand the importance, the value of your surrounding.
01:11:18.000You need to have positive association.
01:11:20.000You need to surround yourself with people, not only when we're talking about spiritual issues, but people who will help you elevate your game in all facets, be it physically, be it mentally, spiritually, emotionally.
01:11:30.000You don't want to hang around people who turn you into something you're not or just drag you down.
01:11:34.000Okay, I do want to end this on a positive note.
01:13:10.000And then, of course, this whole month, Mug Club Quarantine, we are doing Monday, Wednesday, Friday, The Morning Show, which I hope you enjoy.
01:13:17.000I actually really enjoy being able to do this.
01:13:18.000It's a little more relaxed, and we're able to explore it a little bit more.
01:14:11.000I got a Steak Crunchwrap Supreme and a Chalupa and I said, ah, this is, this is, no.
01:14:16.000There's an acceptable risk, this is not it.
01:14:18.000But, there was a lady who brightened my night, and I want to say thank you so much to this lady, and I need to explain why this was so funny.
01:14:34.000And I will say this, we've talked about this, there is nothing, and I knew this going in, there is nothing that Johnny Boy, he's an ultra white Canadian, Acadian bloodline, that he finds funnier than sassy black women.
01:14:47.000No, some people say it's racist, I don't care, he just finds it so funny, like we've talked about, endearing.
01:14:53.000And so we're driving through Taco Bell, and you know, this is a sassy black lady, and I don't know how old, like she could have been from 30 to 60, I have no idea.
01:15:04.000So I order a steak, what is it where it's not a crunch wrap, but it's like wrapped but has like crunchy things in it, but it's not, anyway.
01:15:32.000I'll just say Steak Crunchwraps Supreme, because I'm not going to remember all the Taco Bell terms.
01:15:35.000So, we then drive up to the window, and this is why it's so funny, because from my vantage point, right, so you're, okay, you're me, I'm Johnny, okay?
01:15:43.000And then we drive up, and the window right behind him, as he drives up, it is a very large black woman with long braids, dyed red, and severe makeup, and surgical gloves.
01:15:57.000And I see us drive up, and right away I can just see John kind of A little bit of this.
01:16:10.000So John's right here, and she comes out and she goes, OK, you've got a chicken chalupa and a steak, whatever, and a chicken crunchwrap supreme.
01:16:40.000And in the background, her just like, ah!
01:16:43.000We're done with the night, and I will leave you with this.
01:16:47.000She hands us the meal, folded very nicely in a bag on a tray with her surgical gloves, and John is laughing, and he reaches, he goes, thank you, and she hands it, she goes, yeah, social distances, y'all!