On this week's episode of The Daily Show with Stephen Colbert, the guys discuss the latest in the Trump administration's credibility crisis, including the latest scandal involving Rudy Giuliani and his mug clobbering of a fan, and the new CEO of Twitter, Jack Dorsey.
00:06:39.000Go through the mainstream left's platform, the DNC, and the most radical right pieces of legislation, and then you guys let me know what you think is considered more extreme.
00:06:51.000So you can comment below and let me know what you think is going to happen.
00:06:55.000I'm foreshadowing at this point, but before we get to that and Gay Santa and Elliot Page.
00:08:56.000It was just that there's something in your genetic code when you're a lesbian and too much pooh nanny just turns you into like a trans werewolf.
00:09:09.000And then you're in charge of our economic policy.
00:09:11.000So, hey, really quickly, because I have no idea if we're still on YouTube, the best way to tune in, live, Monday through Thursday at 10 a.m.
00:09:19.000If we're not on YouTube, we will let you know if we are not streaming.
00:09:22.000That's why you need to follow us on all social media, but we are available on Rumble and, of course, Mug Club, where today we'll be doing an extra 45 minutes to an hour.
00:25:36.000Here's the thing with Ellen Page, and this is not a joke, you know how, like Caitlyn Jenner, when Caitlyn Jenner becomes a woman, it's a stereotype of a woman.
00:25:43.000When Bruce Jenner becomes Caitlyn Jenner, it's just, oh, I'll put on a dress and makeup and look, oh, brave and beautiful, something that would be considered a sexist archetype.
00:25:49.000Same thing when you have Ladies, females, who become, identify as men, they don't, like, become just a, just like a male pastor, or just a, you know, a male utility man.
00:26:02.000They become Chaz Bono with a chin strap and the guy taking Geraldo Rivera douche pics in the mirror.
00:26:08.000And by the way, Ellen Page, Elliot Page, is 5'1", I guarantee you.
00:26:13.000Elliot Page does not weigh more than 90 pounds.
00:26:15.000You wouldn't say brave and beautiful, you would think if it was any other guy that he has an eating disorder.
00:29:42.000And here's something, too, that you need to understand.
00:29:45.000Before I get into the reason for this, on YouTube there's something called dual party and say and this is all about the United States of America and people have no respect for it in positions of authority of companies that are more powerful than governments who are appealing to international interests but benefit from section 230 under the guise of being a digital town square.
00:30:03.000If this sounds nationalistic and it pisses you off, that's because it is.
00:30:08.000It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the fact that this country is better than other countries, especially as it applies to freedom.
00:30:38.000You wouldn't have, people will say, but Project Veritas has some great examples, but basically every single uncovering of corruption, be it through media or Me Too, you look at the audio tapes there, some audio tapes were used, there was evidence used against Bill Cosby.
00:30:52.000In other words, how do you catch criminals without single party consent laws, especially
00:30:56.000if you're afraid of being charged simply for trying to expose criminality?
00:31:00.000So this is important because, and I want to go to jail really quickly, but on YouTube
00:31:04.000we've had this as an example before in the past where we would do videos on the street
00:31:54.000So just a practical real world example, you would have never seen anything on Twitter and probably other social media platforms if they adopt this about Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:32:03.000You would have never seen the video for yourself to see that he was defending himself and all you would have had to go on was White racist travels across state lines and attacks a BLM protester or two, and that's it.
00:32:15.000So we don't want to violate the privacy of the individual.
00:32:40.000Look, when people say go out and start your own, I used to be a libertarian.
00:32:44.000And then I realize it doesn't work when you have people who have lobbyists, when you have people who are in bed with the government, and they're not beholden to the same laws that you are.
00:32:51.000All I want with social media is for them to be beholden to the same laws as everyone else.
00:32:56.000if you're going to benefit from Section 230, which basically allows you to eliminate all
00:33:01.000liability based on whatever's on your platform because you are not an editor.
00:33:26.000Immediately after this, new guy becomes CEO.
00:33:28.000As part of our ongoing efforts to build tools with privacy and security at the core, we're updating our existing private information policy and expanding its scope to include, quote, private media.
00:33:39.000Well, our existing policies and Twitter rules cover explicit instances of abusive behavior.
00:33:44.000This update will allow us to take action on media that is shared without any explicit abusive content, provided it's posted without the consent of the person depicted.
00:33:56.000I now have John Edwards on tape saying that he was banging a pregnant woman while his wife was in the hospital with cancer, and it's on... Well, he didn't have his consent, and you're the one banned.
00:34:33.000There are laws for this, so that hurdles have to be cleared, so that we, look, we have to abide by the rules on which we agree.
00:34:41.000And we agreed to these rules, and you benefit from Section 230 being an open town square.
00:34:46.000Now this guy, explicitly, he's the worst ever, because he doesn't even try and act Like he wants there to be an open dialogue or free speech.
00:34:57.000He doesn't even want to pretend like it's an important component to Twitter.
00:35:47.000It uses Snopes and PolitiFact to combat misinformation.
00:35:50.000I'm going to get to how he describes misinformation.
00:35:53.000But first, these are—and this is a problem with YouTube, by the way—they don't let you know who their consultants are on what's considered misinformation.
00:36:02.000We don't know all of these people involved, we just know that it at least includes Snopes and PolitiFact.
00:36:07.000Here's a reminder of how biased Snopes is with some of their lie fact-check ratings.
00:36:13.000They rated Biden saying you're not going to get COVID if you get these vaccinations as correct attribution as opposed to what most should consider false.
00:36:27.000Are you saying that yes, he said that?
00:36:29.000I didn't think that was the point of your site.
00:36:31.000If I came on to this show right now and without this context said, hey, get the vaccine and you can't get COVID.
00:37:03.000You want to think about how perverse this is?
00:37:08.000In May of 2021, Snopes published an article claiming that the definition of anti-vaxxer had never changed because they were being challenged.
00:37:16.000So they said, we never changed the definition of anti-vaxxer.
00:37:24.000They absolutely did change the term anti-vaxxer.
00:37:27.000Now, they lied about changing it, just to be clear, Snopes, and I'm going to get back to the Twitter CEO, but this guy proactively decided to involve these people.
00:40:21.000An independent team of open source architects, engineers, and designers to develop an open and decentralized standard for social media that would help better control abusive and misleading information on its platform.
00:40:32.000Now you read that and you're like, okay, abusive, I got it.
00:40:36.000Misleading, Who's going to be the arbiter of what is considered misleading?
00:40:39.000Well, here's a 2020 interview from an MIT technology review with the new CEO, Agrawal.
00:40:51.000Here he is commenting on free speech and misinformation.
00:40:54.000And if this doesn't send chills down your spine, Somebody in the audience is also pointing out that you're trying to combat disinformation.
00:41:09.000You also want to protect free speech as a core value and also in the U.S.
00:41:18.000Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation.
00:41:25.000And our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation.
00:41:31.000The kinds of things that we do to work about this is to focus less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed.
00:41:42.000One of the changes today that we see is Speech is easy on the internet.
00:41:48.000Where our role is particularly emphasized is who can be heard.
00:41:53.000Deciding who is going to get heard or which voices should get more attention is just as fraught a question as which voices should be suppressed.
00:42:39.000Because there are no healthy dialogues in any country outside of the United States.
00:42:44.000You bitch about division, I bitch about people being arrested for saying the wrong thing, or like our friend who was put before a human rights tribunal and then ultimately the Supreme Court in Canada for a joke.
00:42:52.000This matters because I don't know if you detected As Joe Biden would say, a slight Indian accent there.
00:42:59.000But he does come from a country, India, where they don't have free speech.
00:43:05.000This is a man in charge now of an American company that is given the benefits of reduced liability, Section 230, meaning it has to be an open platform without censorship.
00:43:18.000Your phone can't stop you from even talking with your Klansmen buddies to the four people who are still Klansmen.
00:43:24.000So, India's constitution, though, where this man is from, where this man was raised, where this man was first educated, has no right to free speech.
00:43:32.000This right, however, is not absolute and it allows the government to frame laws to impose reasonable restrictions in the interest of sovereignty and integrity of India, security of the state, friendly relations with foreign states, public order, Decency and morality and contempt of court, defamation and incitement to an offense.
00:43:49.000Look there, you have decency and morality, public order.
00:44:22.000You see how he's doing the end run too, right?
00:44:23.000So to go after the Second Amendment, they said, okay, we can't outlaw your guns, but we can make the ammunition cost so much, it becomes so hard to find that it's pointless at that point, right?
00:46:02.000As someone who was raised in Canada, I know the fear of speaking out in ways that could be deemed offensive.
00:46:10.000By the way, dressing up in black, doing blackface, it's not offensive, provided you've done it nine times and you're the Prime Minister.
00:46:19.000So, the Constitution in India specifically prohibits speech that, quote, Promotes or attempts to promote disharmony or feelings of enmity, hatred, or ill will because different religious, racial, language, or regional groups or communities, or, speech, commits any act which is prejudicial to the maintenance of harmony between different religious, racial, language, or regional groups or castes.
00:46:48.000So, look, it's very broad, it's very clear.
00:46:52.000They can ban any speech that they don't like at any time and now Twitter can ban any video or picture that it doesn't like at any time under the guise of, oh, you don't have consent.
00:47:01.000The law doesn't say you need consent to videotape someone committing a crime.
00:48:12.000I can tell you that from a friend who's been on the show, who for a joke, wasn't even racist or sexist, by the way, it was just an offensive joke.
00:48:19.000In India, 2018, a singer was arrested for singing at a protest against the Prime Minister.
00:48:24.000This year, a priest was arrested for statements that were deemed critical of the ruling pro-Hindu party.
00:48:37.000It's terrifying that, here's the thing, if you live in the United States, you are not aware of the cold, dark world that everyone else knows.
00:48:46.000All the shit that you say, and I mean the stupid shit, the idea of destroying the patriarchy and that men and women are biologically interchangeable, that even you shouldn't have to change your hormone levels to compete in the International Olympic Committee, all the stupid stuff that you say.
00:49:49.000And I don't mean the safest and most secure election of all time.
00:49:51.000I'm not even talking about changing the election rules in violation of state constitutions.
00:49:55.000I'm talking about that we know statistically, people said when they were polled, and maybe Mission Control can bring this up, it's been a while since I brought it up, but people said, oh, if I'd have known about the Hunter Biden story, yeah, that probably would have affected my vote.
00:51:29.000We should be ruled by other... Do you understand that there was still another war coming, and they had to deal with people freely saying this country should exist?
00:51:36.000These millennials, CEOs, they know better than the founding fathers.
00:54:16.000I was just going to say, following up on your Biden-esque, a bunch of surveys were taken and it's anywhere from like 1 in 10 Biden voters wouldn't have voted for him to 1 in 6.
00:54:48.000I mean, he could go on telling every Swedish masseuse that he won the popular vote for the rest of his life, like Al Gore, but he wouldn't have won the election.
00:54:54.000He would not be the former vice president.
00:54:56.000No, he would not be the former vice president.
00:55:19.000So, we've focused way less on what's true and what's false.
00:55:23.000Kind of the whole point of determining misinformation.
00:55:26.000We've focused way more on potential for harm as a result of certain content being amplified on the platform without appropriate context.
00:55:36.000Like looking at someone who was a woman for her entire life winning an Academy Award, now taking a picture of Raisinette albino nipples and saying, oh, that's her!
00:56:13.000In aggregation, our ability to disseminate information, to determine exactly what is correct, what is the truth, we have more tools at our disposal to be able to more accurately assess the truth.
00:56:26.000However, if you're not using those tools With your North Star being how to most accurately assess and disseminate truth, those tools actually become clubs against the truth.
01:00:42.000I mean, look, you guys can run assertions.
01:00:44.000My point is, if you just have a government in charge of what is allowed to be spoken and what is not, and more importantly now, if that is as a proxy to that, can you think of any government?
01:00:59.000Look at the Romans, look at the Greeks, look at the Ottomans, look at the Mongols, look at the English Empire, okay?
01:01:05.000Have any of them actually been more powerful than this conglomeration of Alphabet, which is Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon?
01:01:17.000Because these people All ban speech or content at the same time.
01:02:12.000But now really in the last, what would you say, five, six years, you have the most powerful companies that have ever existed, more powerful than almost any empire that's ever existed, and now they're placing people at the heads of these companies who say, we don't believe in the First Amendment, we don't follow free speech, and our understanding of truth has evolved, and it's more important about reducing harm And making sure that the right people are heard.
01:02:35.000And they never are held accountable in determining who the right people are in being heard.
01:02:42.000That's not only how elections are changed, that's not only how your freedoms are eroded, but that's how evil, horrible people stay in power.
01:02:53.000And then we wonder, when this corruption gets unearthed, how could Harvey Weinstein have done it?
01:03:19.000Maybe for the same reason that the people who were running interference for him all along aren't covering the trial.
01:03:27.000And we have the most powerful companies that have ever existed, and now in the last few years, they have selected There's no other way to say it.
01:03:39.000Woke totalitarians in charge of what information is deemed acceptable and not.
01:03:43.000So, I say, this new CEO of Twitter, you guys can let me know what you think, who's scarier, but I think we are going to look back fondly on the memories of little old communist Jack.
01:03:54.000Jack Dorsey, it looks like it's time for you to close.
01:04:26.000What was amazing to me about the punk scene and why I got into it is because there was this confidence of I'm not going to go off and be shy about learning.
01:04:36.000People have felt that I don't want to be on this platform anymore because I'm being harassed and abused and I need to get the hell out.
01:04:43.000Well, people harass and abuse me all day and night.