In this episode of Atlanta With Crowded, host John Rocha is joined by guest Taylor Lorenz Larkin to discuss the latest in the ongoing battle between the left and right, and the tactics being used to try to delegitimize conservative voices online.
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00:04:11.000Eastern, Rumble or Mug Club, where today We'll be playing, is it Guess That Gender?
00:05:00.000That's how you judge someone, or how you at least get a sense for what they believe in, is what do they do when someone who can offer them effectively nothing, someone from whom they stand to gain nothing, is under attack?
00:06:02.000No one here is being called to or advised to do that.
00:06:06.000As a matter of fact, I am begging all of you, pleading, that you don't.
00:06:12.000We've been pretty—you've all been pretty good about that here.
00:06:14.000We're pretty—one thing that I will say I'm proud of, and I don't think it's too arrogant to say, the fan base that we have.
00:06:18.000We see it when we go out to live shows, and we often see it in the comments section.
00:06:22.000You are decent people, and I know we've got to fight fire with fire.
00:06:25.000This is going to get ugly, but don't do the things that either will get you removed, or we all know to be wrong, because you do lose that moral high ground.
00:06:34.000And, you know, it's—if you lose the moral high ground with a Washington Post reporter, you've done something really bad.
00:06:59.000I am absolutely, you know what else I'm really worried about?
00:07:02.000I really hope that libs of TikTok understand we've seen this.
00:07:05.000I'm more worried about, uh, The right-wing ecosphere, I don't want to use the term grifters, it's overused, but people capitalizing on the trend and then forgetting about them.
00:07:16.000I'm talking about the lawyers, the non-profits, the nightly news shows, they'll be everywhere, and guess what?
00:09:26.000And then something happened with Shirley Sherrod, where Bill O'Reilly took a clip out of context and blamed Andrew Breitbart for selectively editing it.
00:09:47.000And Andrew Breitbart actually hijacked the podium at Anthony Wiener's press conference, where he was about to go out there and say, there are these right-wing smear campaigns being lobbed against me.
00:10:38.000So, while they want us to create distance between ourselves and libs of TikTok, let's do a quick watch in React today of this beautiful, brave person telling us why we are not allowed to define women.
00:10:53.000Here is Madison Cawthorn's definition of a woman.
00:13:02.000They do the dirty work, they put together a hit piece, they put together a highlight reel.
00:13:05.000This is what happened with us, exactly.
00:13:07.000Then they get legitimized by a mainstream outlet like Washington Post, like NBC, which is what happened with us, and then social media allows it to trend, gives it the right-of-way, trending everywhere, algorithmically selecting which content you see, and then they aim to cancel you, de-platform you.
00:13:26.000Let's be clear when we say cancel, remove your livelihood.
00:15:00.000Well, and you put it in a public space.
00:15:02.000It's not like you posted this to your friend group and somebody went in there and grabbed it and like put it out to the world and you didn't want them to see it.
00:15:21.000Now, they can't go out there and correct any of this story because you're gonna read the Washington Post and go, wow, I didn't know this account was spewing all this hatred, oh my gosh, because that's what they're saying in the Washington Post.
00:15:30.000Like, they're saying, anti-LGBTQAAIP group, somebody's spewing hate out there, totally smearing these people, going after teachers and making them quit their jobs.
00:15:39.000No, what's actually happening is we're taking the video the teacher did and putting it online.
00:15:43.000It's already there, we're putting it in front of your face.
00:16:19.000I know Alex Jones has caused a lot of controversy when he's come on this show, but we're like, look, the guy has a chance to defend himself, just like hopefully you do, if you've ever levied with these kinds of We had Alex Jones, obviously Gavin McGinnis.
00:16:32.000We had Stephen Williford after the Sutherland Springs shooting.
00:16:35.000We had Kyle Rittenhouse as soon as we could.
00:16:37.000And if we haven't had them on, we've reached out.
00:17:03.000It was created, it was written by a professionally useless person, Taylor Lorenz.
00:17:08.000Now, Taylor Lorenz, in case you don't remember, recently made news on MSNBC for the cry fest about people doing exactly what it is that she does here, only worse, for a living.
00:18:02.000The acting you might see on The Suite Life of Zack and Cody.
00:18:06.000I want the audience to close on something.
00:18:08.000When they go to the reporter and she says, and terrifying, I think that's what she said, when it goes back, just watch her face and her reaction.
00:18:14.000This is just our opinion that it seems fake as shit!
00:21:56.000No, this is someone who has the backing of Washington Post, owned by Jeff Bezos, by the way, one of the richest men in the world who is pro-censorship on the record.
00:23:56.000She says it's destroyed my life, the online harassment.
00:23:58.000Taylor Lorenz has made her entire career by looking through social media posts And I hate the word cancel because it's just, it's not heavy enough.
00:24:11.000And trying to remove people's livelihoods because of it.
00:25:17.000It's not at the top of my priority list today.
00:25:20.000Now deleted post, so she tweeted, she said that this guy, Mark, just openly using the r-slur on Clubhouse, very poorly written grammatically in case you're saying why am I getting confused, it doesn't really make a whole, and it took me a while, I was like r-slur, retarded.
00:25:35.000Ah, well she's a writer from New York Times.
00:27:02.000If you go after somebody and try to ruin their career, ruin their livelihood, make sure that they cannot provide for their family, the least that you can do is to go out and own the mistake that you made.
00:27:13.000You just had a session where you said that your life has been so tough and nobody should have to go through this.
00:27:18.000What if what you had just endured was actually somebody else's fault?
00:27:23.000And the person who put you through this hell just said, well maybe she can think twice about this next time before we do those kinds of things.
00:27:43.000She's probably just aware that her chickens are going to come home to roost at some point and potentially, I don't have any proof of this besides looking at her, sociopath.
00:27:59.000Her face, she doesn't have any emotion Yeah, she's um. I just think she's a sociopath and she's
00:28:05.000trying to cover her tracks before and after yeah No, she is absolutely right. It's pathetic. No. It's this
00:28:10.000is sociopathic behavior someone who only makes their living trying to destroy others
00:28:16.000It's very different to make fun of things as part of a show that provides solutions and references and sketches
00:28:23.000This is all she does, and she's funded by the ultra-wealthy billionaire class to do it.
00:28:28.000By the way, the class of a dying media.
00:28:30.000Again, the pattern is non-profit highlight reel, hit piece, legitimized by mainstream media.
00:28:36.000That's why they want to have professional fact-checkers.
00:28:38.000That's why you have Jen Psaki and you have this administration saying, we would love to see more people put more fact checks on these pieces of content that's misinformation that's leaning online.
00:28:47.000So, non-profit hit piece, legitimized by mainstream media, social media gives it the right of way.
00:28:52.000Doesn't require a conspiracy to see that they're all working together.
00:28:57.000And by the way, when it's something that they don't like, they do the opposite.
00:29:00.000They go from trusted media outlets one day to the next.
00:29:03.000They're like, no, we're not going to let you have this Hunter Biden story.
00:29:06.000No, we're going to throttle your account so that you can't reach as many followers.
00:29:10.000You're suspended for violating our terms of service, right?
00:29:13.000Our user service agreement for whatever rule that we won't actually tell you violated and where you made the violation.
00:29:18.000And if you try to take that post down that violated, it's still not going to get you back on the account.
00:29:22.000We'll wait about seven to 10 days when this is all blown over and nobody wants to hear what you have to say anymore.
00:29:50.000We need to start helping our own, and supporting our own, and hiring our own.
00:29:55.000That's why we have the Golden Sweepstakes, where we hire people.
00:29:57.000That's why we develop strategic partnerships.
00:29:59.000Hey, that's why the—nothing would make me happier than to watch all of this—meaning social media, meaning their stranglehold information—burn to the ground.
00:30:08.000I would love it if all of you right now switched from YouTube to Rumble, or switched from Yeah.
00:30:42.000We are needing to create our own, and that's what we're trying to do here, so that we can have an umbrella of protection for people like Libs of TikTok, for people like Kyle Rittenhouse, who never would have been able to say the kinds of things that he said.
00:30:54.000Even on conservative-leaning traditional media.
00:33:05.000Yes, I would consider that grooming to try and tell children that doctors are wrong.
00:33:10.000Where are the, are you a biologist, people?
00:33:12.000And the other headlines shared by the account, by the way, speak for themselves with libs of TikTok.
00:33:16.000They do a wonderful job of just bringing from one echo chamber, the crazy LGBTQAAIP, their exact words, And just allowing you to see them so that you don't have to wander off into that dark, soul-sucking chamber of the internet.
00:33:32.000But if you are a biologist and you answer the question, they tell you you're wrong.
00:35:10.000Herself isn't slimy enough, so she decided to quote Ari Drennan, the LGBTQ program director for The Nonprofit Media Matters, who says in the piece, Hey, you know what?
00:36:40.000Or masculine and feminine, and they correspond with genitalia.
00:36:44.000But there are those of us who, regardless of what's going on with our bodies, identify with characteristics from either end of that spectrum, or places in between that spectrum, or even entirely outside of that spectrum.
00:36:56.000I love how this person says, first off, just so you remember, the left, the place, the alcove for people like the Dan Rathers, whose producers, maybe not him, forged documents, are upset that, of course, Libs of TikTok is taking the literary license of putting on a watermark.
00:37:15.000That's how transformative they are of the content.
00:37:28.000We can just take something that's real and say regardless of it and then make something up like regardless of this bullet penetrating your ribcage, I don't believe that I shot him, your honor, and I should be free to go.
00:37:44.000I love it when she's like, anywhere in the spectrum, and then just in case, maybe outside of that spectrum, you come up with something completely all of your own.
00:37:50.000We're not supposed to talk about retarded.
00:37:52.000I just want to say that normally I think it's sad when dogs get euthanized.
00:38:52.000You wouldn't, I wouldn't, if my friend did that, I wouldn't be like, immediately take him to the pound and be like, he's 30, he's probably in a lot of pain.
00:40:24.000Whether you agree with me, with Dave, with Gerald, with Toolman, with Tokenaut, with whoever it is, take your pick, or not, we absolutely do create a program.
00:41:37.000What you are seeing today, when people talk about the destruction of America, when people talk about, oh, the mistrust sown in our institutions, I can no longer have close friendships with leftists.
00:41:48.000Let me explain to you what I used to be able to.
00:41:50.000But it's just that now it's too exhausting to explain it.
00:41:53.000For example, if you're just sitting and you say, you know, they mentioned the Florida Don't Say Gay Bill.
00:41:57.000Now you would, once upon a time they would be informed enough where you could say, well of course it doesn't say that in the bill.
00:42:03.000And they would say, well I know, but we're just sort of using that, you know, the nomenclatures that were describing the sentiment of the bill.
00:42:08.000But today, if you have a liberal friend who says they don't say gay bill, you say that's not in the bill.
00:46:54.000But the point is, when they all get together, and they can remove one person immediately, when it happened with Alex Jones, it happened within the span of one day everywhere.
00:47:19.000You have Jen Psaki saying, we would like to see more of this done.
00:47:23.000We have hearings in Congress and we're like, oh, thank God, they're finally going to go after Facebook.
00:47:27.000No, no, you didn't do enough to silence voices, really.
00:47:32.000Because that's what this country was built on, silencing voices we disagree with.
00:47:35.000That's never gone out of control in the history of man, has it?
00:47:38.000Hey, just, all I'm asking you to do, leftists, keep your protests up against the Jeff Bezos of the world because of, you know, whatever it was, the union thing.
00:48:20.000They didn't go, oh, oh, we're Washington Post.
00:48:23.000So either you're morons, and you deserve to die, figuratively, regardless, whatever I need to say as far as a media entity, or you're dishonest.
00:48:34.000You didn't know that if you left it up, and it was trending number one, two, and three on Twitter and Facebook, and I don't know where it is on Google Trends right now, right now it's 1118 Eastern, 1018 Central, for those who can't be bothered to go through the anguish of subtracting one.
00:48:48.000You guys didn't know that that would be publicly available and still destroy her life, and that Time Machine is something that exists?
00:49:26.000We've done that series, uh, when people have threatened to kill me.
00:49:31.000Or falsely accuse me of threatening to kill their children, or firebomb our van, or slash our tires.
00:49:36.000We've never confronted some random person, and even when we do it, we don't give you their public information as far as their address and their phone number.
00:49:44.000By the way, those are fewer and further between, because people don't want to make the death threats anymore.
00:51:02.000Reach out because I know right now you're going to have the non-profits swirling and the lawyers swirling and a lot of you people here watching right now, you don't see what goes on behind the scenes.
00:51:10.000Tim the Tool Man knows, he's worked in quite a few of the big media outlets as well in the past.
00:51:15.000You're only as valuable as the trend today.
00:51:17.000You are as valuable to us tomorrow and the day after as you were yesterday because the work that you do and because of what you believe in and we need to start supporting our own.
00:51:26.000So hopefully we'll be announcing some kind of What can we say, Gerald?
00:51:32.000We've been working on something behind the scenes with Lives of TikTok, and hopefully we can give you an update soon about that.
00:52:44.000And I'll tell you this, we would really love nothing more than, you know, here to be able to broadcast some of the small stories that aren't getting out there.
00:54:36.000If you put distance between yourself and the libs of TikTok of the world, or the Kyle Rittenhouses of the world, or the Nick Samens of the world, whoever it is, Pussy.
00:55:10.000I don't want to announce it when I retire, but I have kind of a plan of when I would like to step back, someone else take these reigns, and be able to produce other shows and other content.
00:55:20.000Unfortunately, but the truth is behind the scenes, most conservatives and media are very, very lazy.
00:55:25.000And I can tell you this, the libs of TikTok, they're not that.
00:55:28.000I can count on one hand, one hand the amount of people in conservative media whose work ethic I actually respect.
00:55:45.000That's what it takes, and that's why we fight like hell every day.
00:55:47.000But right now, let's end this on a, I mean, I can say funny, slash sad, R-word note.
00:55:54.000Sunday crowds, of course, were gathering Easter, right?
00:55:56.000They were celebrating it at the White House, and good thing for former Vice President Joe Biden, Dr. Jill Biden and the Easter Bunny were there to make sure that, well, he didn't soil himself.
00:56:08.000If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black.
00:57:04.000I forgot, you know, we were going to do the Mask Mandate story, and even though, regardless of that, look, this is one thing you can use as an adjunct, is a clear nasal spray that I use before every flight, and... Slash?
00:58:30.000It's got xylitol in there, which actually, it deactivates a lot of viruses, and it creates like a moisture, a slick kind of coating in your nasal... I use it before every single flight.
00:58:37.000Because you're breathing in it, you're breathing out everyone's, you know, just their cold cuts and Budweiser farts.
00:58:44.000Yeah, well listen, it's not the sexy thing to do, but it is definitely something that will help you stay healthy.