Join us as we celebrate the 1,000th episode of The Mug Club! Gerald and Steve are joined by special guest Joe Louis to discuss a variety of topics, including: the latest in the Alex Jones trial, the abortion crisis in America, and much, much more!
00:02:38.000We didn't do it last week because we have to be really careful because you cannot suggest why young, able-bodied people are dying in record numbers.
00:02:53.000We'll also be talking about the Alex Jones trial, if you haven't been watching that, and a recap, and how the left has kind of attacked him.
00:02:57.000And it's not the way that you would think they are going to be attacking Alex Jones.
00:03:00.000It's always an attack on authenticity, on legitimacy.
00:03:04.000So my question to you, before we move on here today, is why do you think that so many European countries have decided to swing, quote-unquote, radical right-wing, extreme right-wing?
00:03:17.000And by that we mean, you know, they would be like George Will Republicans.
00:03:21.000When you're talking about the political spectrum.
00:03:25.000Dave is not in today, just so you know.
00:03:28.000The procedure went well with a family member, but there's some follow-up that needs to be done.
00:03:31.000So he should be in, I believe, Wednesday.
00:03:32.000And we're going to have an extra episode Friday of Life Advice for you here on the Mug Club.
00:03:37.000But, as always, we have Gerald A. How are you?
00:04:06.000No, that was not the insinuation there.
00:04:09.000No, but I mean, it'd be great if maybe we went around the room and everybody shared their favorite story about, you know, maybe... Oh, it's so self-congratulatory when people do this in their thousandth episode.
00:05:22.000Comment below what your favorite memory or your favorite aspect of the show is, and I'm sure some of you will argue with other people about which aspect you like and how they're wrong, because that's how it works on the internet.
00:08:36.000So what I'm about to say is not an apologist for the rapist, like that man at Walmart.
00:08:42.000Clearly guilty of rape, of course, as she insinuated.
00:08:46.000But, understanding that rape is primarily a crime of, I don't know, you're going to say it's a crime of power, okay, get it, whatever.
00:08:56.000It's primarily a crime of wanting to have sex with someone who doesn't want to have sex with you, and so you have sex with them anyway.
00:09:02.000Wouldn't it stand to reason that the victims of rape would usually, not always, generally be those who are most desirable sexually considering the crime?
00:10:02.000I'm just saying, if you're just playing the odds game, you would think that like, again, rapists, horrible, but if I'm a rapist, and again, I'm not a rapist, I'm anti-rape, but if you've crossed over, you've crossed that threshold, you say, you know what, I don't care, I'm going to be a felon, I'm going to inflict violence upon a woman, I'm going to have sex with a woman who doesn't want to have sex with me back, so now the barrier to entry is removed, the woman doesn't want to have sex with you back.
00:10:22.000Wouldn't you pick the one you most want to have sex with?
00:10:50.000There are grades of this, and you know what?
00:10:52.000We've really just lumped it all in, and here we are now, where a woman like this feels comfortable saying, I was raped, therefore I should have 19 grace items in the 12-item checkout lane.
00:11:02.000I've never heard rape used as, like you said, an excuse for cutting in line.
00:11:08.000It seems like you kind of went a little far there.
00:13:45.000I don't know if you've been watching the Alex Jones trial.
00:13:49.000I didn't know that when we did the Ash Wednesday last Wednesday, that was the start of the Connecticut trial.
00:13:54.000Full disclosure, we had to pre-tape the Ash Wednesday the day before.
00:13:56.000Sometimes we have to do that because of the way we set up the cameras, and often if we want good guests, they can't come in live.
00:14:01.000So I've been following it, and here's the thing.
00:14:05.000First off, there is a railroading that's taking place.
00:14:07.000If you look at the prosecuting attorneys, they've been very clear that this is not about Alex Jones.
00:14:10.000It's about silencing anyone else who may have opinions like Alex Jones, or a platform like Alex Jones.
00:14:16.000And to be clear, I don't agree with Alex Jones on everything.
00:14:19.000I agree with him more now than I used to.
00:14:22.000I just didn't like it when people tucked a tail and abandoned him when he was deplatformed, so we had him on immediately, and I still feel that way.
00:19:22.000Well, no, I mean, so that's step one, right?
00:19:24.000Step two is deplatforming, and step three is saying, hey, even though you're deplatformed now and you have your own thing set up, we're going to sue you into oblivion.
00:19:54.000While we're talking about being demonetized, while we're talking about being throttled and shadowbanned on YouTube, the best place to go to Mug Club, ladderwithcreditor.com slash Mug Club.
00:20:00.000It's what's kept us going for a thousand episodes.
00:20:02.000We do a full double the show every day, Monday through Thursday.
00:20:07.000Otherwise, you can watch for free here on YouTube or, of course, Rumble.
00:20:10.000Nothing would thrill me more greatly than for you all to give YouTube the boot and go to Rumble.
00:20:14.000But I can't force you to, so I give the choice to you.
00:20:16.000Yeah, Rumble went public last week, by the way.
00:20:34.000Someone, by the way, commented last week when we were talking about Sea Beast and the black lady pirates and how they were saying that she clearly wouldn't have been a pirate because she would have been immediately raped.
00:20:41.000Someone said, like, well, actually, you know, you got that wrong.
00:21:19.000Because, look, you don't want to be caught flat-footed if you're supporting someone who, let's say, is an actual, I don't know, ethno-nationalist.
00:21:27.000You can totally be happy that Italy has decided to reject globalist liberalism.
00:21:30.000Now, and let me know if you've been following this or if you're in Italy right now and you know you're still alive, you can just comment below and let us know what you've been experiencing there.
00:21:38.000So, Giorgia Maloney and the party is the Brothers of Italy Party.
00:21:46.000Sunday's Italian elections, just to be clear.
00:21:49.000Now, of course, you see this right away from the media, and this is their playbook.
00:21:54.000Their claim is, right away, this is a far-right, fascist new government.
00:22:00.000Meloni is young, she's well-spoken, she's charismatic, and politically she's very far to the right.
00:22:06.000She's widely expected to be the next prime minister of this country.
00:22:09.000Many of her fans can't get enough of her straight talk.
00:22:12.000It doesn't seem to bother anyone here that many people in Meloni's party are supporters of former dictator Benito Mussolini, or that the flame on his tomb is her party symbol.
00:22:22.000Giorgia Meloni has gone from little sister status among fellow right-wing leaders to now owning them on her way to becoming the first female Prime Minister of Italy and the head of the most right-wing government the country has had since World War II.
00:22:39.000What this victory means is that this will be the first time since the end of World War II and the fall of fascism that Italy has been led by such a far-right-leaning coalition government.
00:23:40.000The fascist party was banned in Italy after World War II.
00:23:43.000Uh, and the party right now is very, very far removed from the Italian social movement, which is a, by the way, successor to the fascist party.
00:23:50.000Now, Maloney, just to be clear, these are her own words.
00:23:53.000I don't know if we have a clip or we have a quote.
00:24:19.000This is saying the Italian right, she was saying this about the Italian right, handed fascism over to history for decades now, and quote, unambiguously, she condemns the suppression of democracy and the ignominious anti-Jewish laws.
00:24:57.000The last time, since it was outlawed post-World War II, right, the last time you would have had anyone who has any roots in fascism or Mussolini, you'd be talking about the 40s, 50s, right, depending when you're looking at people.
00:25:07.000Maybe there was an underground fascist railroad.
00:25:10.000But if this is the party of fascism, because you have to go that far back through the annals of history, then by comparison, the current democratic party is the party of slavery, the party of segregation, the party of internment camps.
00:25:27.000Because they were still pro those things!
00:25:49.000So at what point do we say, well, look, I don't like Democrats today, but they aren't trying to, you know, chase black people down with German shepherds because they're trying to have a slice of pie up at the counter.
00:27:27.000And while we're being clear, talking about Americans as fascists, what they've tried to do in CNN and Titan, can you point me to one single, ever, and this is genuine, I'd like for you to comment below, one single fascist government that supported more open free speech, as conservatives and Donald Trump did, and more people having access to firearms?
00:28:14.000So this is also what's interesting is You know, Italy was one of those countries we were watching, in case you don't remember, early on in COVID.
00:28:22.000They have one of the oldest populations in Europe, if not number one, they're top three, I remember.
00:28:27.000And so they had some of the strictest lockdown measures.
00:28:46.000We've had incredible lockdowns and we've also had a high death In other words, if they were to say, well, you know what, we should have done more because the death rate is too high, you would see very quickly right now an embrace of liberalism.
00:28:56.000You would see an embrace of globalism.
00:28:57.000You would see an embrace of authoritarian government, of lockdowns.
00:29:00.000And instead, everywhere it's been on the ballot, there has been a rejection of it.
00:29:05.000This is a rejection across Europe, and you're seeing it in the United States, a rejection of the pandemic measures that were implemented and would have been far more severe here if the Democratic Party had its way.
00:29:17.000You are seeing this sweep across Europe, and in your own personal life, I'm sure that you know many, many, many, many, many people who were pro-lockdown, who were pro-whatever-it-was, mask mandate, vaccine, all of it, until they finally had something affect them.
00:29:34.000It is a rejection of what Italy did during COVID, despite the fact they say we have a high death rate, we still think we shouldn't have locked down.
00:31:40.000Well, that's why it also makes them nervous, their nationalism, because it's tied more to a race as opposed to the United States.
00:31:44.000Nationalism is tied to the ideas of the United States.
00:31:46.000And I get it that you're going to say that most, of course, people who settle this country are going to talk about largely white Western Europeans.
00:31:59.000The Greeks view themselves as a people.
00:32:00.000The Swedes view themselves as a people.
00:32:01.000The Germans view themselves as a people.
00:32:03.000In the United States, we view ourselves collectively as a people who subscribe to these ideas as a nation.
00:32:07.000Now, they still shriek about nationalism in the United States, but in Europe they go, ooh, we've been here before, because nationalism, let's be honest, it's come with some good and some bad historically with Europe.
00:32:18.000But it's not the same thing as being proud of your country and not wanting to be beholden to other countries' values that don't align with yours.
00:32:25.000We all were raised with this when we were kids.
00:32:32.000And you don't believe we're all the same.
00:32:34.000Because there was There were the Allies and there was the Axis of Evil!
00:32:38.000In other words, at some point, we all draw a line and say, well, you know what, there's a reason for borders.
00:32:42.000The borders signify us not having mutually aligned interests or values.
00:32:48.000And you're just seeing that more clearly defined in Europe right now, especially with the EU and people wanting to leave because they feel like they're being held hostage.
00:32:56.000And that's a perfectly reasonable response.
00:35:48.000I don't know when that Italian genetics bomb drops because, you know, it seems it's almost like you're beautiful, beautiful, and you turn into one of the clumps.
00:36:41.000I don't know how that's not subverting democracy.
00:36:44.000All right, so here's my question to you as well.
00:36:47.000Notice when we talk about fascism, because fascism, of course, if you go and watch the Change My Minds, and all the references are available at lotofcredit.com, they always tie it in with the patriarchy, right?
00:36:56.000Because patriarchists are fascists, or fascists are patriarchists.
00:36:59.000You notice how a huge portion of them are women?
00:37:02.000You have Maloney, you have Le Pen, people like Carrie Lake.
00:37:06.000You notice there's a disproportional number of fascist women out there, apparently.
00:37:17.000It offers this, it says, Maloney is comparable to Le Pen in other ways.
00:37:20.000Both are examples of what political scientists call gender-washing, when female politicians adopt a non-threatening image to blunt the force of their extremism.
00:40:17.000Every single time somebody comes on and says, I believe in freedom, I believe that it's fine to be a Christian, it's fine to be a believer, it's fine to believe in family, because that's one of the things she said, right?
00:41:04.000If the United States is doing well, if you are doing well, if our citizens are being taken care of, that means there probably isn't as much money left over for, I don't know, NATO, UN.
00:41:13.000But there's a difference between saying, I want to exploit others for personal gain, personal gain at the expense of others, versus saying, look, we need to prioritize our people.
00:41:24.000This is not something, this is something to, if you look at the history books, all of human history has been incredibly, you are at a point in history right now that has never existed.
00:41:39.000You wouldn't have seen people... You think Genghis Khan would have looked at another empire and said, I'm mad at them because they have no right to their land!
00:42:41.000Maybe if we had clearer borders, maybe if they had clearer borders at that Walmart, that little rubber baton, that woman wouldn't have accused that she was raped.
00:46:06.000Okay, let me first, and then I'll let Gerald, because I know he wants to sink his teeth into this here.
00:46:10.000Here's the claim that they will initiate.
00:46:12.000The most lazy claim, and it's the most easily refutable, is that most of these excess deaths, or all of these excess deaths, are somehow attributable to COVID or COVID-related effects.
00:46:24.000The truth is that it doesn't mean that it's actually a death from COVID, right?
00:46:27.000So it could be a byproduct of something that happens with COVID, like infection, like heart disease, right?
00:46:32.000So lockdown-related health conditions like poor mental health.
00:46:35.000Who could have possibly foreseen that people's mental health would be impacted by being locked down and not able to go out and interact with people?
00:46:40.000Do you mean every single doctor who expressed concern about it and then was labeled a quack?
00:46:44.000Other than them because... Or removed from YouTube.
00:47:15.000So many people that were sick, like my dad, for example, people that were sick that needed medical attention that all of a sudden became super afraid to go to the doctor or go to the hospital because they thought, oh my gosh, if I get out, one, I'm getting out, right?
00:47:35.000When you look at the list, so again, the laziest people, so watch your YouTube pundits and people on CNN and ABC, NBC, the laziest argument, but these are COVID related.
00:47:43.000But even the people who are one step further down the trail, they say, well, okay, maybe these aren't necessarily COVID related, but they're related to these sort of auxiliary effects from COVID.
00:47:51.000And I don't necessarily even mean long haul COVID, but like you're saying, lockdowns, like you're saying, people weren't able to get access to medical care because we were overburdened, which wasn't the case.
00:47:58.000Basically, hospitals weren't taking patients because there was an incentive to Especially focus on COVID-related care.
00:48:03.000And they say this, the left will say these things, without, just like a Liz Cheney, there's such a lack of self-awareness.
00:48:09.000We're going, yes, yes, this entire time we were saying locking people down indefinitely and decimating the economy.
00:48:16.000And yes, people not being able to get access to necessary medical care because everything has to be focused on COVID right now, despite many hospitals at these varying points in time being empty, having capacity, Yes!
00:50:09.000You just heard him say, so we expect to see excess deaths in the elderly, in the infirm, which is, well, that's going to bring us to some other truths here.
00:50:17.000That's not what we're seeing with the excess deaths.
00:50:19.000So that's what he said, but also according to an article in The Conversation discussing the deaths in England and Wales, they said, heatwaves are associated with increased deaths, especially in older and more vulnerable people.
00:50:28.000Again, older and more vulnerable people.
00:50:30.000The July heatwave in particular was associated with a marked peak in deaths, both among people with COVID and people without COVID.
00:51:34.000And it's not old people that we're talking about when we're talking about the excess deaths.
00:51:37.000You have these numbers, I believe, right here with you.
00:51:38.000In the UK, younger groups have been showing the excess mortality, and by the way, attributed to non-COVID-related causes, which wouldn't stand to reason if it's a heat wave.
00:54:19.000By the way, when you have those polling numbers that you see up there, that's like 2,000 people, okay, that they've called to give you those numbers to tell you who's going to be your next leader, necessarily.
00:55:07.000So in other words, there was no denying, no side denied.
00:55:11.000You won't find anyone at the highest levels of medicine denying that there was an increase in cardiovascular complications, namely myocarditis.
00:55:20.000The only argument that was taking place is, well, is that due to the organic nature of the spike protein and COVID itself, or due to an acute, for example, engineering of the spike protein with the vaccine?
00:55:30.000Now, I'm not giving you a definitive answer.
00:55:32.000I'm saying that was the argument in the medical community.
00:56:43.000Florida is somewhere, I believe, I'm going by rote, 11, 14, and right above it is New Jersey, and not too far below it is New York.
00:56:49.000Honestly, when this first happened, you can go back to the show, I said, if COVID is affecting the elderly, oh my gosh, it is going to rip through some communities in Florida.
00:56:57.000I mean, what do you think is going to happen with all the elderly wasps, or, well, I guess, I don't know, in Boynton Beach, what it is right now.
00:57:14.000Do you think those guys are gonna stop having sex with each other?
00:57:17.000I'm surprised the entire... It's not gonna happen!
00:57:19.000The entire state isn't just covered in that butcher paper that you have when you're sitting... And you know what?
00:57:25.000The truth is, well, it didn't do the best, didn't do the worst, and neither did...
00:57:30.000New Jersey, New York, Michigan, they're all within striking distance of each other.
00:57:35.000So, was it worth it to completely destroy the economies as you saw in places like New York, New York City, as you saw in places like Michigan?
00:57:43.000Was it worth it if you look at economies, for example, when you look at Italy?
00:57:47.000Again, there are some countries that have done better than others and there are more variables that go into it.
00:57:51.000I know, I sound like the person who the left claims to be.
00:58:19.000So what could, just to be clear, myocarditis, health complications, right, these have contributed to the excess deaths in the UK, and we know that those would not be complications from COVID itself.
00:58:31.000References available at ladderwithcrowder.com.