A journalism lobby group took Trudeau’s bail-out — and now they’re calling for censorship
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A journalism lobby group took Trudeau's bailout money, and now they're advocating for censorship. They're the chickens for Colonel Sanders. And they want to ban Donald Trump from speaking in Canada. You'd think that a group of free speech journalists would support free speech and journalism, that you wouldn't want to shut down the world's most important political leader from speaking, and therefore journalists from reporting on what he would speak about.
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Hello, my Rebels. Today, a really weird attack on Rebel News by a bunch of Justin Trudeau's
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bailout journalists. It was so out of the blue, I go through it a bit and I do my best to rebut it,
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and I also point out who's on the take. So take a look at that. I'd invite you to become a
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for the whole year if you pay in advance. Less than Netflix. Okay, here's today's podcast.
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Tonight, a journalism lobby group took Trudeau's bailout money and now they're advocating for
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censorship. It's August 18 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's
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There was a dumb joke I once heard and the punchline was something about a lobby group called
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Chickens for Colonel Sanders. It was a joke, you know. I get it. No chickens would be
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for Colonel Sanders. That's what was funny about it. Chick-fil-A has an ad campaign that's
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in the same vein. It's a bunch of cows telling you to eat more chicken, which makes the same
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point but from the other direction. It's not funny for cows to tell you to eat chicken,
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is it? That's what you would expect other than cows don't talk. It was a good ad campaign.
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Anyways, here in Canada, we have the same thing. But instead of cows telling you to eat chickens or
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chickens telling you to support Colonel Sanders, we have journalists calling for censorship.
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That's the funniest joke of all. They've gone nuts, I think. Do you remember this a few years back?
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The group called Canadian Journalists for Free Expression. So they're telling you they're not
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just Canadian journalists. They say they distinguish themselves from other journalists by emphasizing
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just how much they care about free expression. It's their whole name. It's the characteristic
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they're showcasing. And they decided that they wanted to ban Donald Trump from speaking in Canada.
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Ban him. Censor him. You'd think that a group of free speech journalists would support free speech
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and journalism. That you wouldn't want to shut down the world's most important political leader from
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speaking and therefore journalists from reporting on what he would speak about. You'd think that.
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But they actually didn't want any speaking or journalism about the speaking. They were
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chickens who were for Colonel Sanders. They wanted to ban the president. Not even China does that,
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by the way. China doesn't much like Donald Trump, but they didn't ban him from speaking in Communist
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China. This group called Canadians for Free Expression, Canadian Journalists for Free Expression,
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is actually Canadian Journalists against Free Expression. They're the chickens for Colonel
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Sanders. When even the Toronto Star is scolding you for being a thin-skinned Trump derangement syndrome
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hater censor, it's time to switch to decaf coffee. They're weird and discredited, the CJFE. I don't even
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know if they actually do anything anymore. I certainly haven't seen anything other than a few anti-Trump
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blog posts from them. But there's another group that is supposed to do things, and it's called the
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Canadian Association of Journalists. They don't emphasize freedom of speech or freedom of the
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press in their name. You would think that would be redundant. After all, journalism itself is a form
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of free expression. And yet today, they released a strange unsolicited statement saying that we at
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Rebel News should be banned from the Alberta Press Gallery, and that we would absolutely be banned
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from joining them, the CAJ, the Canadian Association for Journalists, if we were ever, if we ever applied
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to, which we haven't. So it's sort of weird. It's a bit weird because we haven't applied to them.
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Now, I've known about the CAJ for years. I'm pretty sure we've never applied to join them. Why would I?
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In fact, they become a lobby group for journalists who suck up to Trudeau to get bailout money from
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him. Maybe I phrased that in a mean way, but they're a lobby group to get more money from Trudeau.
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There really is no point for us to join them because we're not lobbying for money from Trudeau.
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That's not our business model. I looked at the board of directors there. Name after name is obscure.
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Most of them are unknown. They're not Canada's leading journalists. They're Canada's leading
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bailout journalists. It's very different. So these are multi-million dollar recipients of Trudeau's
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money. It's like that Quebec company called Bombardier. They're not that successful in the
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airplane industry, but boy, are they successful at getting government grants. That was their real
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industry. Same thing with these guys here. But look at them today, apropos of nothing. They put
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out a press release saying that we here at Rebel News should not be allowed into the Alberta Press
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Gallery. A group of Toronto-based journalists says so. They don't have anyone at the Edmonton-based
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press gallery, so this is the Toronto point of view. They do have one token, Calgarian,
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who works for McLean's Magazine, which is one of the biggest Trudeau bailout media companies in the
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country. And they wrote this today. Let me read a little bit of it to you. Alberta Press Gallery
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has a duty and a right to determine access. Get my dumb joke about chickens for Colonel Sanders now?
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Now, I know something about rights and freedoms. I went to law school once a long time ago,
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and I've read the charter. I actually read it from time to time. Just to refresh my memory,
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Section 2 Fundamental Freedoms. Section 2B in particular guarantees freedom of thought, belief,
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opinion, and expression, including freedom in the press and other media of communication. So
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that's a right. I have a right to speak freely, to do journalism, and express my opinions and beliefs
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in any medium. It's right there. You'll notice if you read the charter or the constitution or any
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other law, there is no right for my competitors to ban me. That's not a right, guys.
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That might be some sort of power you want. But in real life, my competitors don't have the legal
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or moral authority to infringe my real rights. It's a counterfeit duty or right to stop me from
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earning a living and practicing my career. That's not a real right. These people are politically
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illiterate. If they think that there's such a thing as a right to ban people from reporting, who are you?
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And to think they're in charge of educating the public about the world and how it works.
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Anyhow, let me read a little bit from this fantastic essay of theirs.
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This past Sunday, the National Board of the Canadian Association of Journalists, CAJ, gathered
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for a regular meeting. That must have been riveting. One of our main agenda items, sorry, I'm laughing.
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Can you imagine? This is their main agenda item. Was to discuss the recent news of the Alberta
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Legislative Press Gallery's refusal to issue memberships to employees of Rebel News.
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What a lot. So all these secret meetings, none of which invite us to make our case. All these little
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snobs, these mean girls meeting in secret to ban us. What a weird witch trial, because at least if I
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read my history right, witchers were invited to their own witch trial. We're never invited to our witch
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trials. I'll keep going. Late last week, Post Media announced its extraordinary decision to pull
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its newspapers from the press gallery. While the CAJ respects their prerogative to operate their
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newsrooms as they see fit, we are concerned this decision could place its journalists in a difficult
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position to adequately serve the public. What, what, what, what? Is it serving the public to ban rebel
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reporters from working? Imagine how full of yourself you have to be to say, I think that's what they mean.
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No, no, guys, this isn't a petty dispute or a political disagreement or competitive or business
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rivalry. No, no, no, no, no, no. If you think we just don't like the rebels, you're totally wrong.
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We're banning the people we hate because that's serving the public in interest, you see.
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Yeah, we cows who are telling you to eat chicken instead, it's not for selfish reasons, you see.
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It's for your own good, you see. I'll read some more. Press galleries are independent,
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self-regulatory bodies that have long been part of Canadian legislatures. They are recognized by
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the speaker to oversee the press accreditation process and other rules for legislative journalists.
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Press galleries have a right and a responsibility to admit as members only those who meet their
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standards and definitions for journalism, so long as the process is fair and transparent.
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Like their secret meeting, right? No, guys, there is no journalistic profession.
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That's not a thing. I mean, doctors, I get it. Lawyers, pharmacists, accountants, engineers,
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those are real professions. A journalist is someone who writes stories about what they saw that day.
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That's it. It's an activity. It's not a profession. There's no self-regulated profession.
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I know they'd like to call each other doctor or whatever, but it's just a club of mean girls
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and the uncool kids to boots. And of course, we're not part of a fair and transparent process.
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In Alberta, they just sent us a note telling us we were banned. We weren't invited to our own trial.
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We weren't even told of the reasons for being banned. And yet the journalists against journalism
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or whatever this group is called is saying, that's the right thing. It's in the public. It's their duty.
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This is my favorite part. The CAJ is not a regulatory agency and does not enforce a specific prescriptive
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definition of journalism. Like most in the industry, we embrace a broad definition of journalism.
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Sure you do. Much like a press gallery, the CAJ restricts our Class A membership to professional
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journalists and we try upon transparent guidelines to make those decisions. The employees of Rebel News
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would not meet our criteria. How do you know? You've never had a hearing about it. You just prejudged
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us. You don't know who all our employees are. You don't know their credentials. We've never showed
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them to you. How do you know? You're not actually real journalists, are you? Because you show no
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curiosity. You ask no real questions. Guys, I think you're just a club of Justin Trudeau's
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concubines. I know you think you're really cool, but you're his bought and paid for harem. It was
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surprisingly cheap. I mean, $600 million is a lot of money to buy a bunch of newspapers. Actually,
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it's just renting you out, I guess. But still, that probably only works out to max a few thousand
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bucks per journalist. I mean, I see the Halifax Chronicle Herald on the CAJ Board of Directors.
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They took millions from taxpayers through Trudeau. But they laid off, what, over a hundred workers
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recently, that little chain of Atlantic newspapers. The money was just sopped up by the newspaper's
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owners and managers. Imagine being for rent that cheap. You're some journalist for the Chronicle
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Herald. So yeah, how do I put this? We're not interested in renting out our principals to Trudeau
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like you are. These guys are really mad about our crowdfunding. Let me read a bit.
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In reviewing the evolution of the Rebel News, it is clear their organization sometimes becomes an actor
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in stories it tells. To date, this has taken several different forms, but includes providing
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financial and legal assistance to some of its sources. Sources? No, we don't pay sources. We don't pay for
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stories. We help people who need help, but we don't pay for the news. I know the Toronto Star did a lot
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of that. They had a bounty out for the late Rob Ford, the former mayor of Toronto. They paid $5,000 a pop
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to any one of Rob Ford's friends or acquaintances to secretly record him in private homes and then sell
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them the footage. So that's journalism according to the CAJ, but not us helping to pay, you know,
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tickets of working class people who got fined for going out in the park during the pandemic or
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something. We don't pay for news. That's what you weirdos do. The CAJ says the critical distinction
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between these practices and those employed by Rebel News are that its staff often actively
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participate in the story, working toward their desired end by applying legal, financial, or other
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resources. And you know the prostitutes who take Trudeau's money? They would never, ever, ever be guided
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by their own activism or their own financial concerns. No siree. They take that Trudeau bailout money,
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and they don't even think about it. You can tell how independent they are and how unaffected they
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are, and they don't want to have any conclusion. Look at how they grilled Trudeau so mercilessly.
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If you could do any other job and you have to answer, what would it be? I'd be a school teacher.
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I knew you were going to say that. No, no. Like aspirational.
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That's what I am. Aspirational. Something you haven't done.
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No, it'd be that. It'd be, it'd be, it'd be maybe, maybe running a school.
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Something at the UN. Something at the... Oh no, if I'm, once, once I'm done politics,
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Last book you've read or the book you're reading?
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The, just finished The Patch, which was Chris Turner's history of the oil patch. But I'm
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also about to start the new Ken Follett, the third book that is the sequel to Pillars of
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That's your nerdy side? No, that's, that's my, uh...
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Your sci-fi nerdy side. No, no, it's not, it's not sci-fi. It's, it's just a, a sweeping
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historical epic, I'm sure, but I haven't said it yet, so...
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Yeah, one day we'll be real journalists like Rosemary Barton, paid by Trudeau. Speaking of
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lawyers, she sued the Conservative Party for Trudeau during the election. The lawsuit's still
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going on. And, and what was that, a platonic date with Trudeau? You know, that's
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journalism. Anyways, here's, here's a quick line in their essay.
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The CAJ also supported Rebel News' access to the federal leadership debates in 2019. You
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mean the ones we had to rush to court in an emergency basis? Really? I must have missed
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that. In fact, CAJ journalists cheered us being banned, objected to us going. The CAJ didn't
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put out even a statement that I saw. They didn't intervene in court, that's for sure. I asked our
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lawyer about this, because maybe I missed something. It was the first he heard of it, too. It's
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almost as if these guys are lying to pretend they care about free speech, and they're not
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just in the pocket of their boss, Justin Trudeau. I'm shocked. One more line from the CAJ today.
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We carefully consider our political activities and community involvements, including those
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online, and refrain from taking part in demonstrations, signing petitions, doing public relations work,
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fundraising, or making financial contributions. If there's a chance, we will be covering the
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campaign activity or group involved. Is that really true? You guys aren't telling Porky's
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again, are you? Like I say, the CAJ is really just a group of concubines that Trudeau pays
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$600 million a year to, so they take his cash. But in that traditional Liberal Party move, ad
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scam, we charities, they know the rules. They have to kick back some of that cash to Trudeau.
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See, a lot of Canadian journalists are members of the Unifor Union. It's weird that journalists
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are in the Union, like it's some hard blue-collar activity or something. But they are. They're
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in the Unifor Union, and they have registered an anti-Conservative Party third-party election
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campaign last year. They take the members' dues from all these journalists, and they spend
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it on fighting the Conservatives in the election campaign with demonstrations and signs and petitions
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and public relations work and fundraising, all the things they just lied about. So Unifor
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does that, and there's another union called the Media Guild that does the same. So not
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only do these CAJ concubines take money from Trudeau, they then kick back some of it to Trudeau
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at election time through their third-party super PACs. And they all choose to do this. These unions
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aren't acting illegally. They have the consent and support of their members, these journalists.
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But sure, sure, sure, because we provided a free lawyer to a single mom in North Bay who was arrested
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for taking her daughter to the park. Sure, that makes us not journalists, while you ladies of the
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night pay for attack ads on Andrew Scheer. Got it. Hey, have you ever seen any of these Justin journos
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when they're doing a report about Trudeau? Have you ever seen any of them disclose this super gross
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conflict of interest, either about taking Trudeau's cash or giving him a partisan kickback? No? Yeah,
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me neither. We never stop talking about our interests. No one could possibly be unaware of our political
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views in our campaigns. We talk about them constantly. You can judge for yourself if you think we're being
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too political, but you can't really judge for yourself about these CAJ journalists, these Unifor journalists,
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these Justin journos, because they never disclose it, do they? Last paragraph.
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At the same time, however, the act of producing journalism is predicated on upholding high ethical
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standards. Oh, the highest. Which demands that information gathered during the reporting process
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be presented fairly, accurately, and transparently for public consideration. Yeah. No one is more
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transparent than the Canadian Association of Journalists. They don't take payments from lobby groups
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or foreigners. They're fair and transparent. Absolutely and totally. How dare you say otherwise?
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I mean, just look at one of their board members who signed this letter, presumably.
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The National Observer. Just top-notch journalist and certainly not in the tank for any lobby group.
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Oh, hang on. Looks like they do take tens of thousands of dollars in cash from a lobby group
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called the Tides Foundation. They're now called Makeway. They were renamed. They were so scandal-ridden.
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It's an extremist anti-oil, anti-industry lobby group founded in San Francisco. They've renamed their
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Canadian entity Makeway. But they boast, you see it, about paying the National Observer for journalism.
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The National Observer admits they take the cash to run the stories that the Tides Foundation wants.
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Look at the bottom of this news article here. This article is part of a series produced in partnership
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by National Observer, Tides Canada. Oh, oh, really? And then Tides sometimes launders additional grants
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to the National Observer through third parties. Here's an investigation by Vivian Krauss in the
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Financial Post. In 2015, Tides paid U.S. 21,000 bucks to Earthways for re-granting to Observer Media
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20,000 bucks for media reporting and 1,000 bucks in honor of Linda Solomon. Solomon is the founder
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and editor-in-chief of the National Observer and the CEO of the Observer Group. She's also the sister
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of Joel Solomon, a former employee and chairman of the Tides Foundation. Oh my God! So CAJ board members
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who condemn us literally sell stories for cash. It's pay to play. They sell stories to foreign
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anti-oil lobby groups and they actually brag about it, I guess? But they're much more ethical
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than us, you see. Just ask them. Hey, here's the list of approved journalists, approved by the CHA and
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the Parliamentary Press Gallery. Have you ever seen this? This is a list of press gallery members
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in Ottawa that are approved. Do you see Xinhua and People's Daily? Now you know those aren't
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journalists, right? They're government propagandists, for sure, and they're spies. They're paid for by
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Xi Jinping, the dictator of China. They're not free to write anything they want. They write what
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they're instructed to write by the Chinese embassy in Ottawa. They're not journalists. You know that,
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right? How do they pass muster with the CAJ but independent Canadian journalists like us don't? Well, follow
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the money. The money shows that the Tides Foundation bankrolls the National Observer. You can't believe a
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word they say. It's controlled by the Tides Foundation. Follow the money. It shows that Justin Trudeau
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bankrolls his little house of concubines who wrote a press release about us today.
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So if these journalists are all taking money from a government or another entity, Justin Trudeau
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or the Tides Foundation, and they're all refusing to publicize it, I mean, I grant you, the Tides
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Foundation is disclosed here and there, and if you really dig, you can see the secret funding, but
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they certainly don't disclose it when they're telling a story on TV, don't they? They don't end
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the story by saying, I should disclose to you that I take money from Trudeau and I pay money to Trudeau.
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They don't do that. So if they don't exactly highlight their conflict of interest, if they keep quiet about
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the money they're taking, if they're keeping quiet about the money they're taking from Trudeau,
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and if they're keeping quiet about the money they're taking from Tides, is there a chance
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they're keeping quiet about money they take from other governments too? You know how you say
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thank you in Chinese? It's xie xie. But I'm sure they already know that at the CAJ already.
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I met with the Prime Minister today to inform him that I did not intend to run again in the next
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federal election. It's never been my plan to run for more than two federal election cycles. As we move
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to the next phase of our fight against the pandemic and pave the road towards economic recovery,
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we must recognize that this process will take many years. It's the right time for a new finance
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minister to deliver on that plan for the long and challenging road ahead. That's why I'll be
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stepping down as finance minister and as member of parliament for Toronto Centre.
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Whoa! So the election, as you know, was less than a year ago. Anyone who thinks that he was always
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planning on stepping down, well, geez, I got a bridge or two in New York to sell you. He was thrown under
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the bus. Of course, the state-supported media in Canada, the CBC and the bailout newspapers, were a little
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bit more credulous and said, yeah, guys, he's not being under bussed. He genuinely is just moving on.
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He's got other things to do, don't you know? He never meant to stick around. What a laugh. But it's
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not funny. Canada is in the worst economic crisis we've had since the Great Depression. Imagine a
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company in that position suddenly losing its CFO. Who's going to take over? Justin Trudeau, who believes
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that you can balance a budget from the heart out or whatever he said. He said that and budgets
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balance themselves. Neither quite worked out. Chrystia Freeland, who has no background in business
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other than when she briefly was in charge of a Thomson Reuters project in New York City
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that she completely destroyed. She's our new finance minister and the new deputy minister. She's
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really taken over all the prime minister's work while he hangs out in Rideau Cottage. Here's an
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image of her being sworn in as the new finance minister also. Well, in actual fact, it might not
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be worse than Bill Morneau to have Chrystia Freeland as the finance minister. I don't know how it could
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be worse. But one of the terrible things here is that Justin Trudeau has decided to prorogue parliament,
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which is what he had always wanted to do, suspend parliament and all its committee proceedings.
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So the various investigations into the corruption involving the WE charity, well, those are brushed
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away too. So you've got a finance minister quitting in the middle of a crisis and already overworked
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an underskilled deputy prime minister taking over the job while Trudeau continues his slow motion
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eternal vacation. And now you have parliament itself dissolved. And the media is fine with this
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because what's the alternative? The conservatives joining us now to talk about this is our old
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friend Manny Montadegrino. He's the chair of Think Sharp and he always does. Manny, great to see you
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again. Great to see you, Ezra. Always fun to be with you. You know, I'm a little bit mad, but what are you
00:25:47.100
going to do? I mean, Justin Trudeau protects himself at all costs. He's scapegoats. He fired Jody Wilson-Raybould.
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He fired Gerald Butts. He fired Bill Marnot. No one is too important to be fired to get him out of an ethical
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tight spot. Yeah, exactly. And he's the master of all these problems. Ezra, let's compare and contrast
00:26:09.360
finance ministers that Canada had during crisis. The last crisis, the Great Depression, sorry, Great
00:26:17.260
recession, was in 2008. And it was handled by Jim Flaherty. And that recession required about 100
00:26:26.620
billion dollars in stimulus spending, which was an absorbent amount, especially when all the three
00:26:32.300
parties were against any type of deficit spending. I mean, it pales in comparison today. I think we're
00:26:39.100
going to get to 500 billion dollars in deficits, at least over the next two years. But let's compare
00:26:48.940
the finance minister. Jim Flaherty got the problem in 2008. 2011, now I knew Jim Flaherty personally,
00:26:58.380
and I had the pleasure of spending some very personal time with him in 2011. This is now three years after
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the beginning of the Great Recession, the financial crisis. And it was well in hand by then, but it
00:27:13.580
wasn't completed. And I spoke to Jim, and I tell you, you know, when I lose faith with this liberal
00:27:21.500
government, I do remember that there are some great public servants, some great public servants that make
00:27:27.740
this country great. And I don't lose it. When I'm as depressed as I am today, I don't lose sight of that.
00:27:35.340
I asked Jim, and I said, you know, you are the most sought after finance minister. You got awards. You are the
00:27:46.380
best in the industry. He received an award in 2009, a European award as best finance minister. And I asked him,
00:27:56.460
I said, why are you still doing this? I was an entrepreneur. I was in a major law firm at the time.
00:28:01.900
And I wondered, why aren't you going to a major law firm? And he would be, you know, he could make
00:28:08.860
in the millions. Or why not even go down south with Citibank or some other big institution that could pay
00:28:16.140
him $10 million? I mean, he was worth a fortune at the time. And I didn't understand it. And Jim looked
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me square in the eyes and said, Manny, I still have a job to do. We're not out of this yet.
00:28:28.780
My goal to Canadians, my promise to Canadians is to get to a balanced budget. And we're on our way
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there. And I walked away from there saying, wow, here's a guy that's leaving millions at the table
00:28:43.260
just to just to perform his public duties. Then I watched. And of course, he did. He did balance
00:28:49.900
budget 2014. He did resign 2014. And he passed away shortly afterwards, which just breaks my heart.
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But it tells you the greatness of the man and the greatness of the public servant that Canada had.
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Then I watched what Marno did yesterday. And in contrast to what I personally knew
00:29:11.660
of Jim Flaherty, Marno was all about him. I can't believe that Canadians, any Canadian,
00:29:19.660
would accept a person saying, yeah, I took this job. But you know what? I'm quitting because I'm done.
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And I'm bored. And I'm going to go try to get this other job. And then leave you Canadians in a crisis.
00:29:33.260
That is the utter, complete opposite of Jim Flaherty. How Canadians are not just outraged
00:29:40.300
by the selfishness, by the lack of public duty. He understood the challenges. We are within only
00:29:48.940
a few months of this pandemic at the beginning of trying to get out. And he's already bailing.
00:29:55.900
So in contrast, but you know, I'm not shocked. This is a, you know, an unproven unethical minister
00:30:03.340
who already has a guilty finding under the Conflict of Interest Act. He had another investigation,
00:30:11.900
but was not found guilty. And he obstructed justice, instructed, used cabinet privilege and instructed
00:30:20.220
his staff not to speak to Mario Dumont, which was the ethics commissioner in the investigation of
00:30:26.060
the SEC Lavalin, which he was involved in it. So, so, you know, it just, of course,
00:30:32.860
this is going to happen. This is what I would expect of Minister Marno. And this is what I expect
00:30:38.780
of every person in this government, because it comes from the head. What's best for me? The message
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best for me is, I'm tired of this. I want to move on. And I want to try another job and,
00:30:49.580
you know, screw you, Canadians, screw you and deal with your crisis in the first two,
00:30:55.180
three months of a crisis seemingly five times larger than what Jim Flaherty had to deal with.
00:31:02.460
Yeah. I mean, it's obviously untrue what he said. It's obviously untrue that he was done and tired,
00:31:08.220
and it makes no sense that he would have run for a seat planning to abandon it mere months later.
00:31:14.780
So it's obviously a lie that he and Trudeau or their spin doctors crafted together.
00:31:21.900
And I think it was designed, if I had to try and reverse engineer it, Manny, designed so that
00:31:28.380
Bill Morneau could say, oh, no, I wasn't fired. I wasn't scapegoated. I'm still super great. This
00:31:34.940
was my decision. I'm going to something even cooler. And Canada is so small time for me. I'm going
00:31:40.220
even bigger the OECD. So yeah, no, no, I'm not. I think this was designed to let him save face in
00:31:48.300
a way, even though it's a palpable lie. But you make the most important point, which is
00:31:52.860
imagine choosing to tell that lie. Yes. And because you think it's it looks better on you
00:32:02.140
to abandon the country in its biggest crisis in almost 100 years, because that's all that's
00:32:07.980
important is what do I look like? I mean, he's a billionaire by marriage. He married into the
00:32:13.420
McCain potato dynasty. He already is famous, I guess. So it was so important that he save face.
00:32:23.180
He'd rather lie to Canadians and get Trudeau out of a tight spot. You know, an honest guy would have
00:32:29.100
probably said, I quit because I won't work with Trudeau on A, B and C. I don't know. But what he did
00:32:34.940
was the worst of all worlds. But Ezra, brilliant point. But let's go deeper into that. It's not just
00:32:41.660
what he said. You know, this was approved by the PMO. You know that this was negotiated. So you have to
00:32:49.260
ask yourself this question. Why would the prime minister of Canada allow a guy to belittle the
00:32:57.420
finances of Canada for a better job? Allow a guy to say, I'm quitting because I'm kind of bored.
00:33:03.260
I want something new. Allow a guy to undermine the Canadian financial integrity. Why did the prime
00:33:10.860
minister accept this resignation speech? You know that the PMO looked at it. You know that they agreed to
00:33:17.820
it. And it only, I can only assume, I mean, either they willfully and dislike Canada so much that they
00:33:28.540
allow this guy to save his face over, you know, 37 million people. Or does the finance minister,
00:33:38.140
does Bill Moreau have some really nasty stuff, worse that we can imagine?
00:33:43.820
As we saw it played out on the SNC Lavalin, we didn't know until it all started coming out. Is it
00:33:52.700
that bad that Marno says, you know what, you want me to talk about this? Justin, you want me to talk
00:33:59.580
about that? You better accept me saving my ass, excuse me, and letting Canada flounder because that's
00:34:08.460
what you better accept. You better, he didn't put Bill Marno on the bus. The prime minister did not
00:34:15.500
put Bill Marno on the bus. The prime minister put Canada under the bus to allow the acceptance of this
00:34:23.340
resignation, which is a complete offense to every Canadian. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of MPs,
00:34:31.340
but few of them are as personally and physically close as Trudeau and Marno. I mean, even their
00:34:39.900
poses. Here's a pose. I thought this was a Photoshop when I first saw it. I mean, hugging,
00:34:45.660
hand on tummies. I just, I don't think I've ever touched a guy like that other than when I was in
00:34:52.380
high school wrestling or something. It's really weird. And they would pose so close, nose to nose,
00:34:58.780
and they would pose making sort of lovey hearts at each other and smiling. And I've never had my
00:35:05.260
face within one centimeter of another man's face other than, I suppose, when I was a baby.
00:35:12.540
There was something so eerily close. I mean, I'm not implying anything sexual. I'm just saying it was
00:35:18.700
really weird. The personal space merging of these two, I think they were close in, in, it just felt
00:35:26.460
weird. So I bet they know a lot about each other. So maybe, I mean, I think Bill Morneau is not as
00:35:32.940
sophisticated, uh, a knife fighter as Trudeau. But I think that it would be a disaster for Trudeau
00:35:41.020
if Morneau would spill, spill the beans. Like, so I think it's like a Mexican standoff.
00:35:47.340
Yeah. And I think each other, yes. And I, but I think after having what we've seen,
00:35:52.140
the attorney general, like, I mean, look what's happened to Canada. Probably the most important,
00:35:57.500
and this is a, you know, we are a constitutional driven country. The two most important people,
00:36:05.900
and obviously we're an entrepreneurial country, we're not a socialist country,
00:36:10.060
but the two most important people are the attorney general of Canada, the person who oversees the,
00:36:16.060
the laws of Canada and the finance minister. Both of them quit. Now, the attorney general had some
00:36:23.740
stuff to say and couldn't say because of, of, of privilege. But I think what Trudeau did not want to
00:36:30.220
see is more truth than, you know, I mean, I guess some liberals might need so many truths that,
00:36:37.740
but, but we, we, we caught on to them. But I, I think that, that, that the, the Morneau had more
00:36:45.660
stuff to say and parlayed it where Trudeau was forced to throw Canada under, and under the bus,
00:36:55.100
and also basically said that he's going to strongly support his, his quest to become this new job with OECD.
00:37:05.740
So, so, so why, how does a prime minister sewer and throw Canada under the bus, our economy under
00:37:15.180
the bus for this one man? It has to be because this one man, I think, has a lot of stuff on Trudeau,
00:37:23.420
much like we saw with the attorney general and the treasury board chair. So it, that's, and it's sad
00:37:29.340
because today, you know, I guess some of the media are saying Morneau was thrown on the bus.
00:37:34.940
I feel that Canada was thrown on the bus. You know, why would Morneau say, you know,
00:37:39.900
the gig is finance minister in the greatest economic upheaval in Canada in a hundred years.
00:37:45.740
Ah, you know what? Bored. Get somebody else to do it. It just doesn't make sense.
00:37:51.980
Well, I've already seen a lot of headlines about the prorogation and the fact that parliament's being
00:37:58.540
dissolved and all these committees are being abandoned. The language is very mild compared
00:38:03.580
to how the media described it when Harper prorogued the government. And I recall when
00:38:08.620
Harper did it back in 2000 and I think it was eight, it was because the opposition parties
00:38:13.660
days after the election said, huh, well, we're going to form a coalition, the bloc,
00:38:20.940
hippie, quad, the liberty and the NDP, we're going to form a coalition and we're going to take the
00:38:25.100
government away from Harper who had won the plurality of votes. None of this was mentioned
00:38:30.380
during the election. Harper said, we're just going to freeze everything, prorogue parliament.
00:38:35.100
And it cooled off and went away. Everyone thought, oh, how dare you prorogue parliament?
00:38:40.060
Well, to stop a trick separatist coalition. Yeah. I was there, Ezra. It was, it was egregious. We,
00:38:49.900
the Canadians just had an election, end of October. They have a minority government. And within
00:38:57.180
a few dozen days, there was a, you know, the deal with the devil, the bloc,
00:39:03.020
the bloc whose, whose duty is to end Canada and create its own country, signed a coalition
00:39:13.660
with the other minority parties to create the opposition. I mean, that was absurd on two basis.
00:39:20.780
And, and, and Prime Minister Harper had to, first of all, understand what's happening. Second of all,
00:39:27.180
understand why the media didn't understand what's happening. But we just had an election and
00:39:32.300
the, uh, they wanted to take, wrestle government away by creating this party that required the bloc
00:39:41.660
to be part of government. And, and that was absurd. And Canadians kind of said, hey, well,
00:39:47.740
this is getting to be really stinky. After he prorogued and messaged to Canadians properly, and, and the
00:39:55.020
message finally got out, it was very clear that that, that, that, that, that coup with the bloc,
00:40:03.100
who are anti-Canada as one country, um, it kind of dissipated. That's completely different facts than
00:40:11.180
today. Uh, we, today we have a, a, a crisis, a financial crisis. There isn't any opposition that's
00:40:19.660
trying to take down the government other than bloc, but there is no other opposition that's trying to
00:40:24.540
take the, during this time. There was no need to prorogue. So, um, it is, it is beyond me. This is,
00:40:31.580
you know, a thousand times worse than what happened in 2008, 2009. Yeah. Well, you wouldn't know it from
00:40:37.500
the mainstream media. No. It's great to catch up with you. It'll be interesting to see what happens.
00:40:42.380
Trudeau always wanted to get out of the, uh, restraints of parliament. He tried it once
00:40:47.020
before in the early days of the pandemic. He failed. Um, I think he's mentally checked out.
00:40:51.980
Um, I think his best buddy, Gerald Butts is in New York now. So he's lonely. He doesn't know who to
00:40:57.500
trust. Um, he doesn't like the work. He's, he's sort of got an, an enemy. I think they would say
00:41:04.460
he's bored. He's taking long vacations. His calendar has more personal days than ever before.
00:41:10.300
Chrystia Freeland says, Oh, I'll take that boss. I'll take that boss. She's hyperkinetic.
00:41:14.300
How good she is is a different thing. I actually think we have the worst government now than we
00:41:19.580
have had at any other moment in the Trudeau administration because he's checked out.
00:41:24.780
Well, that's true, but also the message and Ezra, I'd like to get your take on this because
00:41:30.380
I'm confused. The PMO message that there was a conflict between how to get out of this, uh,
00:41:38.060
financial crisis and they set up Murno as the kind of tough guy who wanted to cut back spending.
00:41:47.420
And what message does that mean? I mean, first of all, I wouldn't consider Murno anywhere near
00:41:53.740
a fiscal type of conservative. I certainly, you know, certainly not that. And he hasn't demonstrated
00:42:00.220
that. And it's for five years. I mean, he was the first to breach the balanced budget. He,
00:42:06.140
he exceeded his own high estimations of balance budget. So he's no Jim Flaherty. He's no conservative,
00:42:12.220
uh, conservative type, small C conservative type finance minister. So what is going on
00:42:18.620
with they setting up? Well, you know, he wanted to kind of cut a little bit of spending, but we want
00:42:25.420
to go hog wild. We need, we need someone, a finance minister to go hog wild on the spending.
00:42:33.260
That is frightening. If it's true, if it's true, it is frightening because we, we, he dead, we're,
00:42:40.780
we're, we're well over 500 billion. I mean, if the answer is in the next five years, add another 500
00:42:46.140
billion. Uh, it is frightening. Yeah. Well, many, uh, in, uh, short days, the conservative
00:42:53.820
party of Canada will reveal its new leader, um, as a result of its voting process, which is slightly
00:43:00.140
complicated and certainly weighted towards the smaller, uh, um, party membership ridings in the
00:43:07.340
country. So every member in Quebec or the Atlantic, for example, has per person a greater say than in
00:43:14.460
Alberta and Ontario. So it'll be, it's hard to guess. It's hard to read the tea leaves. We won't
00:43:19.740
know who the leader is until I think it's Sunday. In fact, people say Peter McKay and Aaron O'Toole
00:43:27.260
are the front runners. We also hear that Leslie Lewis has some momentum. I don't think we'll actually
00:43:32.140
know until the end, but whoever it is, Manny, they're going to have the work cut out for them.
00:43:36.620
Last word to you. Yeah, no, absolutely. I, the new conservative leader. I mean, uh, you know,
00:43:43.420
we have a prime minister who caused the attorney general to resign because of his, because of
00:43:50.380
everything. It has his fingerprints on it, has true to fingerprints, obstruction of justice.
00:43:56.700
The attorney general resigned treasury board, the president of the treasury board resigned for the
00:44:00.940
same year. We forgot Ezra, the clerk of the treaty council. When in Canada's history has the unbiased
00:44:08.140
clerk of the treaty council that's there to direct the bureaucrat resigned because he felt that he was
00:44:13.180
in a conflict of interest. Right. His best friend quits, his finances. And let's add to this,
00:44:18.860
that what, what the, the, the, the governor general, like what the, is going on with the governor
00:44:25.100
general, these are all Trudeau's judgments. These, these are the, this is basically the five top
00:44:31.420
people in Canada, if you look, are constitutional. And of the five, it's a disaster. The attorney,
00:44:38.700
the governor general, uh, Johnson that was there under, under, uh, uh, uh, prime minister Harper
00:44:45.740
was just, it was a fine man that he did his duties honorably and made Canada look proud. It is a mess.
00:44:52.620
We, we are a mess in the monarchy. We are the mess in our finances. I mean, everything Trudeau has
00:44:59.020
touched is judgment. Do I think that the new finance minister is going to be any better? Absolutely not.
00:45:06.860
She was persona non grata in the white house that I know because I speak to my American friends.
00:45:13.900
She's not even allowed near the white house because she attended that, that, that tyrant seminar
00:45:20.460
that called Trump a tyrant, uh, while she's negotiating. So that, I mean, I guess the media
00:45:27.580
can spend what it wants, but I don't think, uh, Minister Freeland is going to be a strong
00:45:34.700
financial assistant to the problems that we have now. Well, my friend, you've left me suitably
00:45:40.300
depressed, but it's great to talk to you as always. That's my job. That's my job is to move my depression
00:45:45.420
on for you. That's my job. Manny Martin-Nagrino, CEO of ThinkSharp. Great to see you again.
00:45:51.580
Take care. All right. There you have it. Stay with us. More ahead on Rebel News.
00:46:07.500
Hey, welcome back to my monologue last night. Susan writes, President Trump does not get the credit
00:46:11.420
he deserves. This election in the U.S. will have effects on us here in Canada too. He's the only
00:46:16.140
one standing between the globalists and the citizens. Oh, I think it's the most important
00:46:20.220
election. I mean, you could have said that last time too, but this is it. This is it.
00:46:25.420
Matt writes, the art of the deal. That's right. Trump's the king of the deal maker.
00:46:29.660
I think you're right. And I thought it was an intractable problem. Maybe it would be intractable
00:46:34.540
intractable to get Iran on side or the PLO itself. But I guess Trump had the savvy to say,
00:46:41.900
well, why would I try and negotiate with the PLO or Hamas? Those are terrorist groups. Why don't I
00:46:46.460
negotiate with the most successful countries in the Arab world? Those little Gulf states like Dubai
00:46:53.180
looks like a pretty successful place, pretty liberal place as Arabia goes. Yeah. Why not try and do a deal
00:47:00.300
with someone who wants to do a deal? Maybe it was just that simple observation. Bruce writes,
00:47:06.940
the reason President Trump succeeded where Barack Obama failed is simple. Conservatives deal with the
00:47:11.340
world as it is. Socialists try to force reality to bend to their utopian ideals. I think there's a
00:47:16.460
lot to that. I think that's not a bad observation. Well, that's our story and our show for today.
00:47:21.420
Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night,