After Andrew Coyne's “embarrassing” video on the Mueller Report, “maybe the National Post should just shut down”
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Summary
I was on the National Post's editorial board for two years, back in the early days of the paper, when it was an explicitly conservative newspaper. And then I went to work for the Globe and Mail. And now I'm back.
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Hey folks, today's podcast, I'm really glad you're listening to it.
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I saw Andrew Coyne, the National Post, where I used to work many moons ago,
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talk about the Mueller report and Donald Trump.
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And I was just interested what my former colleague, Andrew Coyne, had to say.
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It was a video posted on the National Post website, and I watched it, and I started counting,
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and it was like a Geiger counting counter in a uranium mine.
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Ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping.
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All the errors, I'm not going to say lies, because I think Coyne is just clueless.
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All the errors he made in a five-minute video, I think I counted ten.
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And I go through them here, partly because I'm interested in the Mueller story,
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but mainly because I want to prove to you incontrovertibly that the National Post, alas, is fake news.
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Can you do me a favor? Go to the rebel.media slash shows.
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I know you don't have to, to listen to the podcast.
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But number one, it lets you see this as a video, which I think is good,
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especially if we're talking about a video as we are today.
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And number two, it supports us, pays the rent, folks.
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Can't save the world if you can't pay the rent.
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It's just eight bucks a month, which is like half a latte, right?
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It's like, what's the lattes these days at Starbucks, like 15 or 16 bucks?
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Tonight, maybe the National Post should just shut down.
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I'll show you the most embarrassing thing from them in a long time.
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It's March 29th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government, the wire publisher,
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You may know that I was on their editorial board for two years,
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back in the early days of that company, 1999 to 2001.
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unaware that a big comet was heading towards Earth.
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And I loved it since it was an explicitly conservative newspaper.
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I used to haggle with the other members of the editorial board,
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trying to fight on every issue to make the paper as right-wing as I could.
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I usually won, not necessarily because I was more persuasive,
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but because our editorial boss was John O'Sullivan,
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a former assistant to Margaret Thatcher, if you can believe it.
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And, of course, Conrad Black himself ran the whole ship.
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When I was quarreling with the red Tories on the editorial board
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about what our newspaper's official position should be on any given subject,
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I would sometimes play my trump card by saying,
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we already have a Globe and Mail, as in we don't need another one.
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Hmm, what's the point of just being like the other guys?
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Surely the Globe will always be a better Globe than a second wannabe Globe.
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So if you're not different, if you're not conservative, what's even the point?
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I enjoyed my time at the Post, and I met a lot of other writers there, including Andrew Coyne.
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Well, a third of my life has passed since I left there in 2001,
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Yes, I ran for Parliament the next year in Calgary Southwest
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until I stepped aside to make way for Stephen Harper, the new leader,
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Then I practiced law, and I wrote a book about Kyoto.
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Then I started a conservative magazine called The Western Standard,
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I wrote a few more books, including Ethical Oil.
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I joined the Sun News Network when that was launched.
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And of course, for the past four years, I've been running the rebel.
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And Andrew Coyne, well, you know, he's still at the National Post.
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I don't know if that's out of inertia or comfort or whatever, but he's still there.
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And he still drones away each week with Chantali Baer and the other liberals on the CBC.
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I mean, there's 35 million Canadians, and after two decades,
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that's the best you can come up with on any given week for the CBC panel.
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Anyways, a lot has changed at the National Post.
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Conrad Black still has a column there, but he doesn't own it or run it anymore.
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The place has really been stripped down to the bones.
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A lot of it is just recycled left-wing wire stories from the U.S.
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Greenhouse gas emissions reached record high in 2018, speeding earth towards catastrophe.
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Hey, guys, did you know we're speeding towards catastrophe?
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Does the owner of the newspaper, some New Jersey hedge fund that owns the Post now?
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Three years after Paris talks, the world braces for Poland.
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New research predicts heat waves in Canada could become more frequent and five times more deadly.
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Of course, as I showed you the other day, far more people die from cold than die from heat.
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Across the Arctic, bubbling lakes are leaking carbon dioxide, methane, and other dangerous greenhouse gases.
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Because I'm exhaling it now, and I don't want to put anyone in jeopardy.
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Is any naturally occurring gas that comes out of a pond, is it really dangerous?
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They've gone so weird on Islamic terrorism, too.
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Hey guys, you should be ashamed for not loving a terrorist's parents who lied to police.
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You should be ashamed for not loving them as much as you love the two beautiful, innocent women that he murdered on the Danforth.
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Or this one, by an Islamist lobbyist himself, Isangardi.
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Extremists distort all religions, not just Islam.
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Muslims have coexisted with people of other faiths quite peacefully all around the world for centuries.
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Did you know every religion has its terrorists?
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I mean, not a week goes by when some Christian doesn't hijack a jet plane for Jesus, right?
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Why an 18-year-old groping allegation against Justin Trudeau is not a me-too moment.
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Yeah, I mean, I think maybe you just experienced it differently?
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Like I said, I do not feel that I acted inappropriately in any way.
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But I respect the fact that someone else might have experienced that differently.
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So he respected her when he sexually groped her.
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With dignity, moral rectitude, and determination, he has worked to make Canada and the world a better place.
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Look, I guess I'm used to this by now, and I'm a little bit sad about it.
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Because it really used to be my favorite newspaper in the world.
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I still read Rex Murphy and Conrad Black and a handful of others there, but it's about it.
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The National Post, for some reason, makes videos now.
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And it was about Robert Mueller's report, the special counsel looking into allegations of Russian collusion with Donald Trump to rig the 2016 election.
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Now, as you might have heard, unless you've been living in a cave, Mueller found no collusion.
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Even the New York Times, look at their headline, and here's the Washington Post.
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They led the charge on the accusations for two years.
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I mean, Mueller had 19 lawyers working for him, all Democrats.
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He had 40 other staff, including FBI agents, forensic accountants, everything.
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Mueller wrote a 300-page report and submitted it to his friend, Bill Barr.
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That's Mueller on the right, Bill Barr on the left.
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I mention their friends because they've known each other a lot longer than Trump has known Barr.
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If you're into conspiracy theories, you would probably be worried that Barr and Mueller and the Democrat lawyers were going to team up to undo Trump.
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But if you're just thinking conspiratorially, that's why I mentioned their friends.
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As you know, Barr has so far only released a four-page summary of the larger report.
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And in his memo, his four-page memo, he explains why at some length.
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But the relevant regulations contemplate that the special counsel's report will be a confidential report to the attorney general.
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As I have previously stated, however, I am mindful of the public interest in this matter.
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For that reason, my goal and intent is to release as much of the special counsel's report as I can,
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consistent with applicable law regulations and departmental policies.
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So he has to take out parts of the memo that are confidential for legal reasons, like ongoing court cases.
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For example, you don't want to reveal your case to the public before you go to trial.
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Anyone who says they're surprised by this not only doesn't know the rules for special counsel's,
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but hasn't read Barr's summary because he goes into some detail about why he can't just release all 300 pages.
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Now, I'm beating a dead horse here, but I'm trying to show you that not only are there strict rules about just dumping a bunch of legally confidential material in the public domain without redacting some pages first,
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but the bigger point is, Barr and Mueller have been working together on this.
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He just said so. He said he was talking to the special counsel. That's Mueller.
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So this isn't some sort of trick that Barr is playing on Mueller.
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I guess it's obvious that they've been working together, and you're probably wondering why I'm really emphasizing this,
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but it's because of the National Post video I want to show you.
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Let me remind you of just one more thing before we get to the National Post video.
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Most of this four-page memo is Bill Barr's summary of the 300-page Mueller report, done in cooperation with Mueller and his staff.
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But there is one line that's copied word for word from Mueller's report, and it's this one.
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The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.
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So they were looking for collusion and did not find it.
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And that's why that was the headline in the New York Times and the Washington Post, right?
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There was one more question about whether or not Trump tried to obstruct Mueller's investigation.
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Mueller said he didn't come to any conclusion on that, but handed that over to Barr.
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And I'm almost done, and then I'll show you the COIN video, and you'll understand why I'm going through this.
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The report's second part addresses a number of actions by the president, most of which have been the subject of public reporting,
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that the special counsel investigated as potentially raising obstruction of justice concerns.
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So that's basically Trump, whenever he would tweet that he hates the inquiry, it's a witch hunt, it's unfair, it's all Democrats,
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maybe he'd pardon the people who were being investigated, that sort of thing.
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After talking to lawyers and considering the tweets and Trump's rants, they just don't think there's enough there to prosecute as obstruction.
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But did you see that one name that he mentioned?
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He's the deputy attorney general who hired Mueller in the first place.
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So again, this isn't Barr acting on his own or acting for Trump.
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It's Barr working with the permanent lawyers of the Justice Department and talking to the absolute guy who started the whole Mueller Odyssey himself.
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That's why liberals who are serious journalists, even though they're liberals, that's why they've thrown in the towel on this collusion thing.
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Except for our friend Andrew Coyne and the National Post.
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Thank you for listening to me recap all the facts about the end of the Mueller inquiry.
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And thanks for letting me touch on a few points.
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The categorical way in which Mueller himself exonerated Trump on collusion.
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The reason why we don't have all 300 pages released now, but that we hopefully will have more in time.
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And the fact that Mueller and Rosenstein and others were involved in this memo.
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The fact that there just isn't enough to prosecute Trump for obstruction because he wrote some angry tweets.
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So now you see those points freshly in your mind.
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Let's see what the National Post and their star columnist, Andrew Coyne, said.
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So the U.S. Attorney General William Barr recently releasing a four-page summary based on special counsel Robert Mueller's report into possible interference by Russia into the 2016 election, basically giving the U.S. president the all clear.
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First of all, it's a four-page summary from a not particularly objective source.
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Barr was appointed because he's a fervent Trump loyalist.
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And I think we want to absolutely see the full report before we draw any conclusions.
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Even on that four-page report, that account of Mueller's account, it doesn't say that there's no evidence he did anything.
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Okay, how many errors, how much spin did you see there in, what, 30 seconds?
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Barr was appointed because he's a fervent Trump loyalist.
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Well, I guess any cabinet secretary is going to be loyal to the president.
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But he was approved by the United States Senate after a confirmation hearing.
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You heard Coyne imply that we can't trust Barr's summary of the Mueller memo.
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Even though I just showed you Barr wrote his memo after lengthy conversations with Mueller himself.
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And he explained why, under the special counsel law, he can't reveal more now.
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But Coyne just told National Post viewers that we can't trust the Barr memo.
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He really is so paranoid he thinks Barr is lying or tricking the world as if Mueller would remain silent if that were the case.
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Coyne just said Mueller doesn't exonerate Trump on collusion.
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The investigation did not establish that the members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.
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There's 500 witnesses, thousands of subpoenas, 40 people hunting for evidence for two years.
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Or maybe he just didn't even bother to read the memo?
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He just repeated something maybe he saw on Twitter?
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It doesn't say that there's no evidence he did anything.
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Even on the particular question of collusion, it simply says there's not enough evidence, according to Barr.
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Not enough evidence to warrant, you know, further proceedings.
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And it's certainly not the same thing as a blanket exoneration that he's never done anything wrong in his life.
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When Barr said there was not enough to prosecute, he was talking about the obstruction issue.
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You know, Trump tweeting about the special counsel, ranting about how it's a witch hunt.
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And Coyne is pretending that that part, where Barr says there's not enough to prosecute, Coyne is pretending that that was about the collusion.
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That whole not enough to prosecute thing is Barr on obstruction.
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It's certainly not the same thing as a blanket exoneration that he's never done anything wrong in his life.
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Which is the way this is going to be used, by the way.
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In the simplicity of politics, this is now going to be waived anytime anybody accuses Trump of anything.
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But I think there's a lot more still to be found, even on that particular question of the collusion.
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Because what we do know, it's not contested, is that Russian operatives came to Donald Trump Jr.
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and said, we've got dirt on Hillary that came from Russian sources.
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And he said, yeah, I love it, especially if it's as you say.
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There are multiple meetings of Trump operatives with Russian operatives, which they then lied about,
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Whether it all adds up to collusion or such is another question.
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500 witnesses were interviewed, thousands of subpoenas, two years.
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I mean, it's true, some people were convicted of lying to Mueller.
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A couple of guys had frauds in their past unrelated to the Trump campaign.
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Let me read one more part of the Mueller report summarized by Barr.
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The special counsel did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired
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or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple offers from
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Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.
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Trump and his team did not coordinate, did not take help.
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Why is Coyne pretending this is a live question?
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I don't know if Coyne is lying or if he himself is clueless.
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Or actually, my working theory is that Coyne's just such a Trump hater,
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he can't bring himself to accept the truth that Trump didn't do anything wrong.
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He just has to hold out hope that there was some proof somewhere that this two-year, 40-person
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He's like those Japanese soldiers found in the jungle in the 1950s who were cut off from
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the main army who didn't know that World War II ended.
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In 1945, they just were cut off and they just kept fighting until the 50s.
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Coyne literally said there's a lot more still to be found.
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When he said that, he's a truther, he's that Japanese soldier in the jungle in the 1950s.
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What's also documented and not in dispute by anybody serious is that the Russians went
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to great lengths to try and help Trump get elected.
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Now, whether they did so in collusion with Trump is another matter.
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But they seem strangely insistent on that they wanted him to be elected.
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And he's paraded all kinds of strange behaviors of deference towards Vladimir Putin and towards
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For example, trying to harm NATO, trying to break up the European Union, and so on.
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Here, listen to the head of NATO praise Trump for pressuring the other members of NATO to
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After years of cutting defense budgets, they have started to add billions to their defense
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And last year was the biggest increase in defense spending across Europe and Canada in a generation.
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It's also because of your leadership, because of your clear message.
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No, I have said it before, but the thing is that it really has, your message is having
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He had a bit of an accent and the sound was weak, but he said, you have pressured the
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It's true, as part of Trump's negotiating style.
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Trump says things like, if you NATO allies in Europe don't ramp up your spending, we're
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So they ramp up their spending and then they all hug it out.
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Anyone who thinks Putin likes Trump pumping up NATO spending is paranoid, crazy, conspiracy
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Trump has put in deeper, harder sanctions on Russia than anything ever done before.
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Trump's new ambassador to Germany is campaigning, pressuring that country to cancel a big natural
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gas pipeline from Russia, actually threatening Germany with sanctions if it does business
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And Trump says, why should we defend Germany militarily if Germany's going to buy billions
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of dollars worth of natural gas from Russia, making Putin rich and putting Germany in the
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Sorry, getting that pipeline canceled, that's not deferring to Putin.
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This is Bill Clinton giving a speech to Putin and taking a half million dollar paycheck right
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at the same time Hillary Clinton, as Secretary of State, was signing over American uranium
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And this is Obama promising Russia that he'll be flexible just as soon as he gets through
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I transmit this information to Vladimir and Vladimir.
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That was Dmitry Medvedev of Russia who will transmit information to Vladimir.
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I don't think Coyne actually knows anything about this issue.
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I don't think he knows about Hillary Clinton taking hundreds of millions of dollars into
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her Clinton family foundations through Bill Clinton, which is why they, the Russians, you
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know, gave the Russians what they wanted politically.
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I don't think Coyne actually even read the Barr memo.
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I think he is just a Trump derangement syndrome kook.
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And the National Post holds him out as some sort of expert.
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The other big question, of course, is, was there obstruction of justice in regard to that?
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And again, one should be suspicious of Barr when he says, if you can't show the underlying
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crime, then there can't possibly be obstruction of justice in trying to cover up that.
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First of all, that's just absolutely legal nonsense.
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Second of all, it's logical nonsense, because what it would amount to would be, if you were
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successful in covering up your crime through obstruction of justice, such that we weren't
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able to establish it, then you also get off on the obstruction of justice charge.
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Coyne isn't a lawyer, by the way, even if he plays one on TV.
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He consulted with Rod Rosenstein, the guy who hired Mueller in the first place.
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They said that's just not enough to prosecute on.
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They didn't throw out the obstruction charge because they couldn't prove collusion.
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So the Democrats have called to see this full report.
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I think they have powers of subpoena, for example.
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The Trump administration nevertheless seems strangely reluctant to release this report
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But that will, I think, be both a political and, I suppose, a legal contest, I would expect.
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I didn't read you the whole thing, the whole bar memo, but several paragraphs in the four-page memo
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point to precise legal statutes that forbid the report from being issued in public
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The very order that created the special counsel in the first place said so.
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And there are confidential matters before grand juries that must be kept confidential.
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I think he actually didn't even read the memo about which the National Post is pretending
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Or more likely, Cohen just gets his news from fellow Trump derangement syndrome sufferers.
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You just issue a subpoena and you can get confidential matters from another lawyer who
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I think he's just repeating garbage that he heard on MSNBC or the Young Turks or Vox or
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So now the Attorney General has deferred to the Justice Department.
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So will they be conducting their own investigation completely?
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Or are they going to be referring to this Mueller report as well?
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That's a question I don't think I'd be qualified to answer.
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I would suppose the wheels of justice in America are many and complex.
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And it's one of the strengths of the system is there are multiple sources of power.
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It's harder to just shut things down the way you can, for example, in this country.
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There are any number of processes that were kicked off by Mueller.
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For example, in the Southern District of New York, the prosecutor's office there,
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there are independent processes on different charges that can go ahead.
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And there are independent sources within the Justice Department.
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So it's not clear to me whether the Attorney General can just shut things down.
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And if there are strands still to be pursued there in obstruction of justice, you may well see that.
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Yeah, the shorter answer to that question would have been no.
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They're not conducting a new investigation into obstruction.
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I think Coyne just didn't know the answer to the question.
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So he just talked word salad for a minute, just making things up.
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Dude, if you don't know how to answer a question, especially about something technical,
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just say so and move on to the next question, every single part of his answer there was made up.
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The interviewer asked Coyne one last question about pardoning the people caught up in the inquiry.
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Including his, I'm sure, sincere belief at some level that he's innocent of everything.
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So it's, it's, it's not inconceivable, but it's, I would say, still at this point, unlikely.
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I know. Trump is so crazy to actually think he's innocent of collusion.
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Except that Mueller just said after two years of hunting, they found no collusion.
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So, yeah, I think Trump does believe they found no collusion.
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My friends, the National Post has fallen far, far, far.
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And their tired, washed up columnist who comes across as an expert really knows nothing and just makes it up.
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And I am so sorry to say that a newspaper that was once Canada's finest,
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in fact, one of the finest in the world, has fallen so far.
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Mr Speaker, I think it should be a matter of profound regret to every member of this House
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that once again we have been unable to support leaving the European Union in an ordinary fashion.
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The implications of the House's decision are grave.
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The legal default now is that the United Kingdom is due to leave the European Union on the 12th of April,
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Well, they were supposed to leave today, but now Theresa May says they're going to leave in 14 days' time.
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I'm not sure if I believe a single word she says.
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Joining us now via Skype is one of our favourite rebel correspondents,
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who herself happens to be a member of the European Parliament.
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And I think her very job as an MEP hangs in the balance.
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Yeah, I was supposed to be out of a job in two and a half hours' time, but Parliament has kept me in it.
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Then we can leave on World Trade Organization rules, I hope.
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It's bizarre to me that there's this 11th hour panic and redo.
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I think that the Prime Minister Theresa May and the Conservative Party don't actually want to leave.
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And now they're just in throw anything at the wall mode.
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We've got to remain Prime Minister, we've got to remain opposition and we've got to remain government.
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The people voted to leave and the majority voted.
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85% of the MPs that were sent to Parliament in a general election just two years ago all stood on a manifesto to leave the European Union.
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We've got this enormous disconnect between the voters and the people in Parliament who are not representing us.
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And I think social media programmes like this, that's opened up that chasm because people don't actually believe that they're being listened to.
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And just people are just so angry that their representatives in Parliament have not delivered the will of the people.
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She wanted us to leave on her terms with what's deeply flawed.
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And we've got a few brave souls in Parliament, a few Brexiteers that are trying to push the real Brexit through.
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And we've got some elections coming up in a few weeks' time, just local elections.
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They're just going to be voting for Brexit parties or independent parties.
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I think they've got one almighty shot coming to them in Westminster.
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The EU has already said, Ms. Barney and Mr. Tusk, they have organized an emergency meeting for, I think, the end of next week.
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Because they don't want us to leave without a deal.
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And we're saying we leave on the start of April now.
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Well, but, I mean, it's been March 29th for two and a half years.
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And to say, well, just two more weeks is actually an enormous concession.
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Because whether it's two weeks or two years, you know, there has been agreement to break that date.
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And I fear that that is the great, that that is the biggest crack in the dam.
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And now if you can delay it once, you can surely delay it again.
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If you can delay it for 14 days, why not delay it for 14 months, 14 years?
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And I'm worried that a tremendous rage will pour out.
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I can only imagine if in our country or for the United States, a general election with the largest voter turnout in history, as it was for Brexit, were foiled.
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People would say, well, if the government doesn't believe in the rule of law anymore, why should I?
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I think you would see at the very least civil disobedience and perhaps much worse.
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We managed to persuade people that, you know, they shouldn't be storming Parliament because at the end of the day, they got machine guns out there.
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But it was still good natured on our marches today.
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There were tens of thousands of people out, although the mainstream media are just reporting thousands.
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I fear for our democracy because we had people that voted for the first time.
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We had young people that voted for the first time.
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We also had people that had refused to vote in a generation because they just didn't believe our politicians were delivering.
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There was a bit today with truckers and others, taxi drivers who had stopped the traffic around the periphery of London and in central London itself.
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And I think you're going to see more direct action.
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And those 2nd of May local elections coming up will be the real test.
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And I think they may even try to go into European elections.
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And that will be each other's view, because what they don't want is a load of Brexiteers being returned to the European Parliament, which we'd just be infecting and disrupting the whole time.
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So in lots of ways, they actually want us to go.
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And what do the two main parties, the socialist Labour and the Conservatives, put in their manifesto?
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How can you go into even a general election, let alone a European election?
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What do you say on that thing that's been that thing called Europe, which has been pestering away for the past 40 years in this country?
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Do you really think that Brexit will happen on April 12th?
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And leaving on WTO terms, that sounds like a good thing, I guess.
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I mean, if there's no massive payment to the EU from the Brits and World Trade Organization terms, that's good enough.
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Does it sound like that could actually be, even though it's two weeks delayed, which is a moral travesty, if it actually does happen, am I right to say that would be a good thing?
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It would be a fantastic thing, because we want to be global Britain.
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We want to take back control of our borders and our sovereignty and our laws.
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There are many great countries ready to go with free trade agreements with us.
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And actually, the EU, under WTO rules, has to treat us as a favoured trading nation.
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And the government has already published a report saying that we will reduce trade barriers, trade tariffs, by about 80%, 87%.
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At the moment, businesses have prepared for Brexit.
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Calais ready, the port in Dover that is closest to Britain.
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So our ports are ready, the airlines are ready.
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The only people that are not ready to go are the people in Parliament that are stopping it.
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I doubt it, because I think the EU will be pushed to the edge, and they'll come out with some magic rabbit-hands of the fact.
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So I think we now have to look to Europe, unless our MPs suddenly discover what democracy means.
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Well, I fear that since they have crossed the red line of moving the date, they can surely do it a second time more easily.
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I look forward to watching your video on the rebel.
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Tell us a little bit about where you were, what you saw, who you heard.
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Tell us what was going on today at the Parliament buildings.
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It was funded by, well, it was sponsored by Tommy Robinson.
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I had a big screen up as well, and we listened to some of my European friends.
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We had messages of support from MEPs and MPs from various countries, from Greece to Sweden to France, and, of course, the Netherlands, because they want Nexit.
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But we played those videos, and it's important to show to the people there today that you're not alone, that we have other people supporting us.
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And, you know, the support that we've got for Rebel is absolutely phenomenal.
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Lots of people said, hi, we love Ezra, we love your reports, Janice, we love what you did in Calais.
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We laughed so much at the Remainer video that you made last week.
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Well, Janice, we're so proud that you're flying the Rebel flag there in the U.K., and I'm very glad you were there, and I look forward to watching the videos.
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I thought today would be the end of it, and I am afraid.
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I mean, I haven't been following it, obviously, as closely as you.
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You're a proud British citizen, and you're actually a member of the European Parliament.
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But from a few thousand kilometers away, I'm actually quite sad.
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If it happens on April 12th, this two-week interregnum can be forgotten.
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But I am terrified that they will pull some more tricks, that they've bought themselves more time.
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Will you keep in touch with us and let us know how it goes?
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That's Janice Atkinson, a member of the European Parliament, who joined us from her home in the United Kingdom.
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Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about Justin Trudeau's smug response to aboriginal protesters.
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Yeah, you know, I was never entranced by his charms.
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I just feel finally everyone's waking up from this lengthy slumber.
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And I guess, well, better late than never, right?
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I mean, better now, six months or so before the election campaign, than six months after the next election campaign.
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Trudeau's mocking the First Nations protesters may just be the final straw for Jody Wilson-Raybould to take action.
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Yeah, it's funny you say that because today I see news that Jody Wilson-Raybould, in fact, recorded a conversation she had with the PMO.
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I don't know if it was with the prime minister himself, but with someone she recorded it.
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Why would you record a conversation with a colleague?
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It's because, I would imagine, something terrible was happening, or she was afraid something terrible would happen.
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Or something that she knew would be denied, so she had to capture proof of it.
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And by the time this video goes to air, maybe we'll know what the recording was.
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But I think Trudeau's clear BS on being an aboriginal supporter, just like it's clear BS and he's a feminist.
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I'm not saying that's motivating Jody Wilson-Raybould.
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But it's certainly exacerbating things, don't you think?
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Grassy Narrows is asking for more than we can give.
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Yeah, you know, there is something that has been critically called the Indian industry.
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It's lawyers and bureaucrats, often white, by the way.
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Like, the whole Truth and Reconciliation Commission, and frankly, much of the Missing and Murdered Aboriginal Women Commission,
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it's basically white lawyers in Ottawa billing at 500 bucks an hour in the name of grassroots Indians.
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You pour in billions at the top, and maybe a few drops make it to grassroots Indians on reserve at the end.
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But when you talk about mercury poisoning or Minamata disease, I think it's named after a place in Tokyo where the first mercury poisoning was really detected.
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And Trudeau promised a very specific mercury house or something, I think they're calling it, like a very specific health care promise.
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It's not a BS thing like a political commission.
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And it's quite pitiful that they had to spend 1,500 bucks to buy a ticket to get a moment of his time.
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But frankly, it's probably the most effective 1,500 bucks they've spent.
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I thank you for indulging me for my lengthy critique of Andrew Coyne on Robert Mueller.
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But I thought it was not only interesting because the Mueller thing is quite interesting,
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but just whenever you have a dead-to-rights proof that someone is engaged in fake news,
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I think it's a very important moment to really document it so you never get bamboozled again.
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All right, folks, till next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
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to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.