Alberta election eve： Four thoughts on Jason Kenney's likely landslide victory
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What does Jason Kenney's election victory mean for Alberta and the rest of the country? Ezra Levenant takes a look at the challenges Kenney will face as Alberta s next premier, and offers up some ideas on how to deal with them.
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Hello, my rebels. This is your last full dose of pre-election news about the Alberta provincial
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election. I think it's everything but a fait accompli that Jason Kenney will rout the socialist
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hordes. I think it's going to be a slaughter, frankly. I keep thinking of that line from
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Barrett's privateers. Barrett was crushed like a bowl of eggs and the main truck took off both
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me legs. I think it's going to happen to Notley without the take off me legs part.
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I'd be really grateful if you did that. Go to therebel.media slash shows. All right, here's my
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all Alberta episode. You're listening to a Rebel Media podcast. Tonight, what does the change in
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government mean for Alberta and for the rest of the country? It's April 15th, and this is
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my
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The other day, I made six suggestions. Some of them were easier than others to do
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on what Jason Kenney could do as premier to fight back against anti-oil and gas extremism
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by environmentalists. Some of it would be as simple as instructing a cabinet minister to do it under
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what's called a mandate letter. That's a fancy way of saying a detailed job description that the
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premier gives each cabinet minister, or just issuing an order in council that is just to
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decree something. No vote needed for certain things. Setting up a special police force to
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counter environmental extremism, just like police right now have a special vice squad or a fraud
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squad. Specialist police, experts in the given area of law enforcement to stop the vandalism,
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mischief, trespass. Another would be to use Department of Justice lawyers to go after the white-collar
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aspects of environmental extremism, especially abuse of the Canadian and U.S. tax laws by lobbyists
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who pass themselves off as bona fide charities. Another idea was using Canada's version of the
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U.S. RICO statute that targets organized crime. Go after groups like Greenpeace that commit crimes
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as part of a fundraising model. And then there's passing new laws like the South Dakota law against
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riot boosting. Anyways, I had six ideas. I won't go through them again. Frankly, Kenny can start some of
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this literally on his first day in office. That's what Trump did. I don't know if you remember. He was
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ready to go on day one, the day of his inauguration. He got right to work. He made so many policy
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announcements, decisions in the first hours and days after he was inaugurated, just to set a new tone.
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Some of it was merely symbolic, I grant you, but others were real things. You'll recall that he approved
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the Keystone XL pipeline and the Dakota Access pipeline within, I don't know, hours of becoming
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president. He had obviously been planning those weeks in advance. He just did them quickly as a
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symbol. The Dakota pipeline is working great, by the way. It's been up and running for more than a year.
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I'm jealous. I think Kenny needs to take steps on day one and he needs to root out NDP plants in the
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government, like the Obama holdovers who undid Trump in so many ways the past few years, caused so much
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trouble. So I'd like to talk about today a little bit, a list of challenges Kenny will face that have
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nothing to do with policy ideas, really. They have to do with mischief and underminers once he becomes
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the premier, which I think is quite certain tomorrow. I think there are troubles coming his way, but each
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of the troubles are actually an opportunity if he handles them right. Maybe that's obvious.
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Obviously, all of this is contingent on him winning the election, but I know enough about my home
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province to know that it's a done deal. Rachel Notley and the NDP destroyers, it's not even
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passionate anymore, the whole thing. It's resolved. That's different. I think the people of Alberta,
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I don't think there's any drama. I don't think they're hot-blooded anymore. There's no contest.
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I think they're just resolved. We're going to throw them out. I know the left-wing media and
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Notley's union front groups have been making a lot of fights. This is a very dramatic election.
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No, it ain't. I mean, they've been focusing on non-core issues. They're obsessed with student
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sex clubs in high school, so that's what they are. Now, I know the NDP cares a lot about that,
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but I don't think that's in the top 10 list of any Albertan unprompted. There's just no debate left
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that all that's left is finding out the exact numbers, just how many votes and how many ridings
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Jason Kenney will win. I think he could get up to 70 out of the 87 ridings. Okay, so if that happens,
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what should he do? I think on the very first day, he needs to fire a lot of holdovers from the Notley
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era. He needs to purge dozens, probably hundreds of people, entire agencies if need be. Take Ed
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Whittingham, an anti-oil sands extremist formerly with the Pembina Institute, a lobby group that takes
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foreign money to attack the oil sands. Rachel Notley just appointed him to the Alberta Energy Regulator.
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That's the quasi-judicial tribunal like an energy court, really that approves or denies pretty much
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anything involving oil and gas. Whittingham has to be fired on the very first day. The same way that
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Doug Ford, the new Ontario Premier, cleaned house at one of its problem childs, Ontario Hydro, the huge
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politicized boondoggle pact with appointees by his predecessor, Kathleen Wynne. Do you know that
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Doug Ford also canceled more than 750 wind and solar contracts signed by the Wynne government?
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Obviously, they were junk, extremely expensive, many of them patronage gifts to connected insiders,
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all of them a signature liberal platform. Just cancel them. Boom. Gone. Let them see if they want.
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Kennedy needs to immediately fire the Notley underminers. They shouldn't be that hard to find.
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Many of them only moved to Alberta from other provinces after her surprise win in 2015. To me,
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they're epitomized by this guy, Nathan Rotman. He's Notley's chief of staff. He came from Toronto,
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where he was a junior staffer on the losing campaign of a hard left-wing candidate for mayor.
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Her name was Olivia Chow. I was actually Jack Layton's widow.
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Seriously, some doorknocker for the third-place loser in a Toronto city election became the
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chief of staff to the premier of Alberta. Had he even visited Alberta before he was given that job?
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Obviously, he's a political staffer and would be let go anyways, but there are dozens, maybe hundreds
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of such interlopers, carpetbaggers, as they were called in the U.S. after the Civil War. Fire them
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all. And quick, just all of them. Gone. Get out. Not just to send a message. Not just to save money.
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But otherwise, they will become malicious holdovers like Donald Trump faced when he took
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office. The entire collusion myth that was finally buried by Robert Mueller a few weeks ago was juiced
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up by Obama appointees who stuck around under Trump and colluded against Trump and used their access
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and information and connections and resources to plant little time bombs for him, to leak about him,
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to set him up. They'll absolutely be doing that to Kenny and his MLAs. They need to all be fired.
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When in doubt, fire. And given that Notley hired, what? Was it 50,000, 60,000 excess bureaucrats in
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the past four years? I think the default bias should be to over fire, not under fire. When in doubt,
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throw him out. And again, I would hope that Kenny would have some sort of transition team in place
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who was already working on these things while Kenny was campaigning. There are probably things that need
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to be done right away to cancel abominations like Alberta's carbon tax, or like the war on coal plants
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in the province, like other agreements that Notley signed on behalf of the government. Cancel,
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cancel, cancel. There should be a hundred canceled in the first week. Cancel that bizarre last ditch
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purchase of billions of dollars in railway tanker cars, for example. Just cancel it. Cancel the kooky
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tricks and programs and grants like the free solar panels in a province where there's snow on the roof
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half the year. Cancel it. And all the while, a no shredding order should go out to bureaucrats.
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Don't shred any documents. You know they're going to break the law, but you should try and enforce
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it anyways. I've told you before about an old Roman concept from the ancient days of damnatio
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memorie. It's Latin for damn the memory, condemn the memory. It was a shocking totalitarian exercise
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by Roman emperors, especially when it came to family feuds. An emperor would send out an order that
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anything, everything having to do with a damned person was to be obliterated. So if someone was to
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have their memory damned, condemned, every single law approved by that condemned former politician
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was to be nullified and reversed. Every appointment they had ever made, every decision they had ever
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made was to be reversed. It was as if they never existed. And what was Orwellian about it was that
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it went further. Their pictures were scraped off. You see the missing picture there? Someone on person?
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Pictures were scraped off painting. Statues were smashed. It was very Stalinistic in its style.
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Obviously, we don't believe in that. But there was nothing done in the past four years in Alberta
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that shouldn't be undone. Nothing. No appointment made should be kept. No spending, no taxing,
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no decision that shouldn't be undone. I could be wrong here and there. Out of the thousands of
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decisions, you could find one or two tiny exceptions. But that's the point. The default should be to
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damnatio memorie. Delete everything. Reset everything. You could probably count the exceptions
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on one hand's fingers. More to the point, that has to be the spirit. That has to be the corporate
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culture now. Not just switching team colors. Not just new personnel. Raise it to the ground.
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Now, obviously, you're going to have an entrenched opponent to that. Namely, those same public sector
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unions who were so enriched by Notley, who were so grossly overrepresented in Notley's caucus,
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and who spent lavishly as third-party advertisers to assist Notley in the recent campaign. I mean,
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hell, Notley's own husband is a government union leader. Half her MLAs were union bosses,
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including this. I'm sorry, I'm going to use the word freak. He's a freak. Rod Loyola. I'm sorry,
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I'm going to flick this on you. You have to watch this. Do not look away. Take a look.
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About to hit the mic quiet, subversively. Coming at you with ingenuity, breaking down,
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indoctrination of capitalist commodification that's taking over your mind. Attacking you all the time
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through daily media blips like drive-by hits. The clip just hit the ground. We've been broken and
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bound, tied up behind enemy lines. Incarcerating, confined. To break free, we need to have an urban
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guerrilla mentality. Observe your enemy. Analyze strength and weaknesses. Use the same ammunition.
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Yeah. I swear to God, that guy actually became an MLA under Rachel Notley. Seriously. It's the same guy
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here. Longly Hugo Chavez. Longly the values that he stood for. Compañero Presidente Hugo Chavez.
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I know you think I'm kidding. You think there's no way that guy could be a Notley MLA. I swear to God,
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he is. Anyways, yeah. So expect Rod Loyola to return to a life of, well, he's not exactly a
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businessman, is he? Expect him to return to a life of being a perpetual student and a union organizer.
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And to scream bloody murder about any cuts to come. Yeah, fair enough. But this election wasn't
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just a referendum on Notley. It was a referendum on her friends. Out of province interlopers like
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Nathan Rotman. No one cares about them. And the in-province profiteers, the public sector unions,
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that didn't care about the job losses in the private sector because there was a true economic boom in the
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public sector. Seriously. Well, nearly 200,000 Albertans suffered from the destroyed oil patch.
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It's never been better to be a civil servant in Alberta. So yeah, they're going to squawk. So what?
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They just lost. Elections have consequences. It'll be interesting to see if Kennedy has the fortitude
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to stare down the union. So when they march in the streets, when they put their students on strike in
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the schools, Ralph Klein stared them down. He brought in modest cuts 25 years ago. Klein didn't
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blink. I wonder if Kennedy will. So you've got the holdovers, some of whom will quietly slink back to
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Toronto or Vancouver. Others who will simply continue their campaign from outside power, the labor unions
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and the front groups. Now they have all sorts of sources within the government, holdovers that won't
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be rooted out, who will leak information in them. I mean, the battle will continue. It always does with
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these radical leftists. That's the Alinsky way. The second challenge, though, is the media.
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Kennedy loves the media, or at least he loves playing along with them. It worked for him pretty
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well when he was a cabinet minister in Ottawa because he gave the media what they wanted.
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He was the immigration minister. He gave record high immigration levels and
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subsidies to ethnic groups. What media would fight against that? They loved it.
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Kennedy took that cooperative, even submissive approach into Alberta,
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and it didn't work for him so much. I mean, the CBC put a record setting. I said seven to you
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before, but look at this. There are now eight journalists on this one story here. The CBC has
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eight journalists digging into a single scandal on Jason Kennedy that he colluded with a stalking
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horse candidate to attack Kennedy's rival in the UCP leadership race a couple years ago. I think it
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looks bad. And I think if they did what they said was done, it was unnecessary. But seriously, so what?
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No one cares. We have an NDP to kick out now. That's the most important thing. That's the only
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thing. But the fact that the CBC has put not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, not six,
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not seven, but eight, eight, eight reporters on that one story, more than they have on the SNC
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live line story, shows you all you need to know about the media now. They were obsessed with the
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student high school sex clubs. They were obsessed with things Jason Kennedy said when he was a student
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himself 30 years ago, they were obsessed with any minutiae or trivia from some candidates' Facebook
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pages years ago. It was quite something. Even my old Sun News colleague, Charles Adler, I think he went a
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little bit crazy. Remember this? The misogynistic crap, the homophobic sewage. And they're saying
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people who hate LGBT people are highly attracted to the party and running for the party. But the people
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who are LGBT people, the targets of the hatred, they're not running for the party. Many people in
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the LGBT community right now, Mr. Kenney, feel you're using this family as a campaign prop. Why are so many
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people who bash gays and bash women, why are so many people who bash Muslims attracted to the United
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Conservative Party? Why are the knuckle draggers attracted to your party? If you're wondering what that is,
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Jason Kenney agreed to a half hour interview with Charles Adler. Why would Kenney even talk to any
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media outside Alberta to begin with in the campaign? And why would he talk to haters like
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the CBC state broadcaster to begin with? Didn't Donald Trump teach us that you don't have to bend
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the knee to the fake news media, not in the age of Twitter and Facebook? Kenney is so obviously afraid
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of what the CBC thinks of him. I don't know all the details of all the candidates that Kenney threw
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overboard. I think it was all exaggerated. But it was like Kenney gave the CBC itself a veto over his
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campaign. No one cares. No real people care. The media went absolutely wild against this guy,
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for example, a Kenney MLA named Devin Drieschen. Because look at that. Oh my God, everybody. Oh my
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God, look, he wore a Donald Trump Make America Great Again hat. Oh my God. You know, he's from
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rural Alberta, south of Red Deer, Innisfail. Do you think that weird Trump derangement syndrome that
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absolutely grips the CBC and Charles Adler and the Toronto Star, do you think they feel the same way
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about it? Innisfail, Alberta. I say that because Kenney, of course, has given the rebel the cold
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shoulder, even though I should tell you the majority of his candidates and Kenney himself
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are rebel supporters, as in their subscribers or they otherwise interact with us, our petitions,
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our social media. And this isn't about me or the rebel, but it's my point. We have close to
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100,000 supporters in Alberta. Why would Kenney care more about what the CBC in Toronto thinks about
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him than what 100,000 of his own grassroots Alberta members and grass tops activists care? Why does he
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care what Wendy Mesley or Rosemary Barton think of him? Why does he care about what Charles Adler
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says? Why did he stick around that interview for half an hour to be abused like that?
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I'm worried about this because the media and the public sector union bosses will be the true
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official opposition in Alberta going forwards. And you need a certain contempt for the media,
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as Donald Trump has, if you're going to survive. I don't think Kenney has that. I think he actually
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tries to please them. I predict that will be a big problem for him. But there's another problem I
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predict too. I call it the entryists. Entryists. For the past four years, the NDP has got rich off
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Alberta. I mean, the party itself, NDP carpetbaggers like Nathan Rotman and Brian Topp, the Toronto
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union boss who was Rachel Notley's first chief of staff, and say, Sapporo Berman, who got paid to be
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on Notley's advisory board. And same with others too. Ed Whittingham, got that sweet Alberta energy
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regulator gig. They all got personally rich. Personally. Mainly the lobbyists. So I remember,
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well, back in 2015, all of a sudden, all these oil companies and construction companies and
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property developers didn't know anyone in the new government. How would you know a new Democrat?
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You think you knew Rod Loyola, that weirdo beat poet? I don't, oh my God, I got to get in touch with
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Rod Loyola. No one knows him. Yeah, no one knows him. He's a hobo. So for 40 years, these oil companies
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knew who to call when you had a question or a problem or to ask a favor. Suddenly they didn't know
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who to call. And so all of a sudden, absolute losers. Some of them literally failure to launch
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socialists, literally still living in their parents basements. Like the other guys at that
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beat poet. They bought a suit and said, um, I'm a lobbyist now. I'm an NDP lobbyist now. So well,
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company, if you pay me a hundred million, hundred thousand dollars, I can help you navigate through
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this new world. I can hook you up. You need me? Just give me a hundred grand retainer. It happened
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and they got paid. Dozens of Rod Loyola's hobo friends. Some became millionaires. Of course,
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they didn't actually help the oil companies. They actually pacified them. They told the old
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companies, don't rock the boat, cooperate, don't argue, don't publicly criticize, stay quiet on the
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carbon tax. We'll help you out. So these millionaire NDP hobo lobbyists actually suffocated what should
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have been a robust oil and gas response to Notley. I remember my friends at CAP, the Canadian
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Association of Petroleum Producers, telling me they thought they, I think we can work with
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Rachel Notley. We've got some real NDP lobbyists on the side and it's not going to be so bad.
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So they decided not to publicly criticize her. How'd that work out? How did that work out four
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years later? What a disaster. My point today is, look, you have all these progressive conservative
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lobbyists who have been lean for four years, haven't had the hundred grand retainers from oil
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companies. They're hungry for the fat of government again, all lining up for the gravy
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train. Now, being a lobbyist is legal and helping companies connect to the government is fine in
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principle, I suppose. But many of these bring with them the old corruption of the red Tory
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politics with them. The old, I don't know, Jim Prentice, Ed Stelmack, Alison Redford Tories.
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There's a whole subset of conservatives who actually deeply believe in the carbon tax or carbon pricing or
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pollution pricing, as Gerald Butts and Trudeau call it. Preston Manning himself, I hate to say it,
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drank that Kool-Aid. Failed Ontario PC leader, Patrick Brown, totally bought into it. It's not
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what real grassroots conservatives want, but it's what lobbyists want who get huge contracts to push
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it on the government. Even if the past few days, I've seen would-be lobbyists jockeying to get a piece
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of the action as moderate sensible conservatives, not like the deplorables who are actually going to get
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Kennedy elected tomorrow. These are the entryists I'm worried about. Some of the red Tories in
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Kennedy's own caucus and a lot of the perpetual hangers-on and would-be lobbyists who were thrown
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out by the Wild Rose Party. They snuck back into the United Conservative Party, and I can assure you
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there's a lot more money in being a pro-carbon tax lobbyist than being against it. It's one of the
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reasons Preston signed up. Something to watch out for, not just for us, but for Kennedy himself.
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But I suppose the last thing, the last challenge is in some ways a good one, a healthy one,
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is Justin Trudeau. You see how he's railing at Ontario's Doug Ford every day these days? Him and
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Catherine McKenna. It's amazing. You'd think Justin Trudeau and Catherine McKenna were running to be the
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Premier of Ontario or something. Just endless. I can't understand it. Ford's most popular thing
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is to be against the carbon tax. McKenna and Trudeau are pushing a hated tax. It's weird to me.
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But boy, they're coming for Doug Ford, excuse me, hammer and tong, and he fights back. I love it.
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Well, if there's anyone they hate more than Doug Ford, it's Jason Kenney, especially if he keeps
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his promise to repeal Alberta's carbon tax and helps the fight nationally. At least in Ontario,
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Trudeau thinks, well, maybe he could win some seats federally. Trudeau knows he can't win in Alberta,
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so he's going to go scorched earth, just like his father Pierre Trudeau did. It will be interesting
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to see if Kenney fights back and how hard, and if he does it all, and how he does it all. If he follows
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Doug Ford's example, maybe he teams up with Ford and Saskatchewan's Premier Scott Moe and Manitoba's
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Premier Brian Pallister, that could be interesting. Can they form a counterweight to Trudeau and help
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fight his bad ideas, save the country, not just the provinces? Frankly, I think they have to team
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up like that to survive. Either they kick Trudeau out of Parliament, or he's going to kick them out of
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their provincial legislators. Those are four thoughts on what I think is the eve of Jason Kenney's
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landslide victory. Number one, fire as many incumbent staff as possible to clean the house,
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and then fire some more, and then when you think you're done, just fire a few more, and then just
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randomly fire another 10%. Get rid of the underminers, or risk sabotage, like Donald Trump did from the
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Obama holdovers. Move immediately to cancel contracts, programs, to put your enemies on the
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back foot. If you don't move on them, they're going to move on you. Number two, can you resist being
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bullied by the mainstream media? So far, it's Kenney's biggest weakness. The very fact that he went on
00:22:13.740
Charles Adler's talk show and let himself be trashed for half an hour. We didn't play
00:22:18.360
Kenney's submissive replies, but Adler basically trashed Kenney for half an hour, and Kenney didn't
00:22:23.600
hang up or say, I'm sorry, this is done, you're just being gross. It shows how afraid Kenney is to
00:22:27.940
offend the media, including out of the province. He has to learn to hate the media as they hate him.
00:22:34.340
He has to learn like Trump has learned in order to survive. Third, can Kenney guard against lobbyists who
00:22:40.840
will bend his ear, always proposing to pull the party to the left. Failed or just retired or just
00:22:46.340
hungry ex-conservatives who want to make some money for the first time in their life, want to be fancy,
00:22:50.940
want to be accepted by polite society, just like Preston Manning, who when I worked with him 20 years
00:22:55.640
ago, he fought against the Kyoto Protocol. Well, now he writes op-eds in the Globe and Mail supporting a
00:23:01.160
carbon tax and telling liberals how to implement it. Now entire conservative lobby groups will be coming
00:23:06.960
to tell Jason Kenney to be a Patrick Brown, not to be a Ralph Klein. I think it's a risk, a similar
00:23:11.760
risk to the media party risk. But the last fight hopefully will be like a splash of cold water to
00:23:17.320
Kenney's face. Justin Trudeau coming to kill him and use him as a punching bag for the delight of the
00:23:23.300
rest of the country, a foil for Trudeau in the upcoming election. And hopefully the reality of that
00:23:28.620
will cause Kenney to come to terms with the other three threats. We'll see. I'm still wrapping my head
00:23:33.020
around things. I'm still figuring it out. I'm still thinking out loud, trying out my ideas on
00:23:36.780
loud, trying to figure it out. Let me know your thoughts. Send me an email. And I guess that's
00:23:40.220
okay because the election hasn't even happened yet. Maybe I'm too early. By the way, we're going to be
00:23:45.060
having a live election night show tomorrow on YouTube starting at 7.45 p.m. Alberta time,
00:23:52.320
9.45 p.m. Eastern time. Sheila Gunreid and Kian Bexty will be at Jason Kenney's election night
00:23:58.060
headquarters in Calgary. I'll be here in our Toronto outpost. It'll be great. I'm looking forward to it.
00:24:03.080
Until then, let's talk next with Lord Gunter of the Edmonton Sun. And we chew these things over.
00:24:24.360
Well, it is just after 8 p.m. if you're watching this as soon as we upload it. 8 p.m. Eastern time,
00:24:32.400
6 p.m. Alberta time, which means that 26 hours from now, if I'm correct on the time of day,
00:24:40.960
Albertans will have chosen their next government. Every single poll for months has suggested that
00:24:48.300
the United Conservative Party, led by Jason Kenney, will win a majority. Some polls say it'll be a
00:24:55.080
wipeout. I myself think Kenney will win, oh, almost 70 out of the 87 seats. I suppose we should always
00:25:03.520
beware. I mean, the Dewey defeats Truman headline from last century is a reminder of predicting things
00:25:11.620
before the voters have their say. But I think it's a done deal. But what will it mean to the war against
00:25:18.680
oil, gas, pipelines, and jobs? Well, very interesting article in the Edmonton Sun today by our friend
00:25:24.460
Lauren Gunter. The headline is Vivian Krauss, the tar sands campaign and the election. Joining us now
00:25:30.660
to talk about it is our friend Lauren Gunter. Hey, Lauren, great to see you again.
00:25:36.900
It's a very interesting article. It's something I've cared about for a decade since I wrote the book
00:25:41.680
Ethical Oil. Most of the anti-oil activists in Canada are not your friendly neighbor, your concerned
00:25:49.980
girl guides troop, you know, organic, natural volunteers. They're not. They're not even Canadian
00:25:55.680
in many cases. And they're almost never, at least the organizers, are almost never volunteers. I mean,
00:26:02.180
they're paid professional foreign lobbyists. Tell me a little bit about what you wrote about in your
00:26:09.460
column today, please. Well, I can't take any credit for the work that was done. It all comes
00:26:14.060
from a BC researcher named Vivian Krauss, who I have to admit, I probably haven't given enough ink to
00:26:21.440
her. I've dealt with her in the past and corresponded with her back and forth. She has some very, very good
00:26:26.300
information. And what she has found that over the last decade or so, an organization largely funded by
00:26:34.540
billionaire foundations in the United States, a group called the Tar Sands Campaign, has raised about
00:26:43.300
$900 million and funneled that into environmental and indigenous organizations in Canada. So when you
00:26:53.260
hear, you know, environmental groups say, oh, we're the little guy fighting against big oil. Well,
00:26:59.520
most big oil companies don't put anywhere near the amount of money into pumping up pipelines that
00:27:06.120
this campaign has put into tearing down pipelines or preventing pipelines from being built. And so
00:27:12.060
Krauss has not only documented that very, very well, and how those organizations, for instance,
00:27:18.940
helped fund the court challenge that last August caused the Federal Court of Canada to
00:27:25.180
invalidate all of the construction permits for the Trans Mountain Pipeline. And that's why it still
00:27:31.940
has not gone ahead. But the other thing she's found is that some of the organizations like Progress
00:27:37.840
Alberta and Lead Now, who get this money, have been working very actively in this current provincial
00:27:43.960
election to get the new Democrats reelect. Certainly working very actively to keep Jason Kenney
00:27:50.140
from becoming the premier, because the stated purpose of the whole Tar Sands campaign has been
00:27:58.880
to, quote unquote, landlock Alberta oil. Now, you and I have talked about this before there,
00:28:04.240
but our other names for this is called demarketing. You can pump as much oil as you want, but we're
00:28:08.860
going to make sure you can't sell it anywhere. And I think it's fascinating that the people whose
00:28:14.580
objective is to demarket and landlock Canadian oil have decided to champion the Alberta NDP,
00:28:23.580
who claim to be the big fans of pipelines, but their supporters clearly are not. And what do the
00:28:31.580
supporters know that the rest of us don't? Well, yeah. You know, it's funny. In the last few
00:28:37.680
months, and especially this campaign, Notley has tried to rebrand herself as a defender of pipelines,
00:28:43.140
but her staff picks her, you know, there's an old saying, personnel is policy. Who you hire is a
00:28:50.360
reflection of you and what you believe in. As I showed, I think it was yesterday, Notley's staff
00:28:57.000
have been working for Greenpeace in her office. She had professional Greenpeace activists in her office
00:29:03.720
because when she was an opposition MLA, I remember one of them got arrested for doing a stunt at Ed
00:29:12.780
Stelmack. And so you have Sappora Berman, as you point out in your article, Sappora Berman of Greenpeace,
00:29:19.060
you have Karen Mahone arrested for riding on Burnaby Mountain against the Trans Mountain pipeline.
00:29:24.900
These were people placed in senior positions. Let me throw one more fact at you, Lorne.
00:29:30.940
The first chief of staff to Rachel Notley's energy minister was Graham Mitchell, who came from LEED now in Toronto.
00:29:40.000
He was a foreign-funded anti-oil lobbyist, literally registered to lobby against the oil sands,
00:29:46.200
hired from that anti-oil sands lobby group, and placed directly as chief of staff to Rachel Notley's energy minister.
00:29:53.040
And we know, too, that one of the other organizations that has received indirect funding from the tar sands
00:29:58.380
campaign is the Pemini Institute, which likes to portray itself as a sustainable development think
00:30:05.000
tank. Anytime that we call them anti-oil, they get all itchy about that. But they are receiving money
00:30:13.380
from the tar sands campaign. And their most recent executive director, a fellow who stepped down in 2017,
00:30:19.780
Notley just appointed him to, within the last couple of months, appointed him to become
00:30:25.080
director of the Alberta Energy Regulator. So she knows, perhaps, that her time is coming to an end
00:30:31.540
as premier, and she's going to load up as many of the appointments as she can,
00:30:43.340
And one of them is an anti-oil campaigner that she's put on the Alberta Energy Regulator.
00:30:50.700
And he was, his organization received money indirectly from the tar sands campaign. So
00:30:57.680
it's an intricate network. Vivian Krauss has done a tremendous job in uncovering it.
00:31:05.000
And the beneficiaries of it in Alberta are the Alberta New Democrat.
00:31:09.020
Yeah. You know, Jason Kenney has talked that he's going to try and push back against these
00:31:13.580
groups, and I hope he will. There are a lot of things he can do. I mentioned some in the show
00:31:17.880
yesterday. Lauren, I don't know if you ever heard, did we talk about riot boosting? It's a phrase I
00:31:25.880
had never heard until just a few weeks ago. South Dakota has introduced a bill against riot boosting.
00:31:32.640
And it's just anyone who is a booster for anti-oil and gas riots. Anyone who organizes,
00:31:38.340
cajoles, encourages. Now there has to be, it has to be a real, urgent, imminent, like you can't just
00:31:44.540
be hollering on Twitter, hey guys, you should riot. You have to be right in there inciting a riot. But it
00:31:49.980
allows either governments or private companies or private citizens to sue, sort of like under a
00:31:56.300
RICO statute or under a, you know, an anti-gang legislation. And what I find interesting is it
00:32:02.680
allows companies to reclaim their damages times three. So if you had a pipeline that was broken,
00:32:08.660
it cost you a million dollars to fix, you can now go after Greenpeace for three million, even if-
00:32:13.840
My understanding is even if you have a pipeline delayed, that doesn't actually have to be damaged
00:32:17.620
to it, but there can be damage to your books, you know, to your profits or to your balance sheet.
00:32:23.240
And you can sue for that as well. So interesting. I don't think we're going to see any of that in
00:32:29.720
Canada. But who knows? Kenny seems quite sincere about taking legal action against these
00:32:38.420
organizations that are working intently, directly, with the express purpose of ending Alberta's economy.
00:32:47.020
And despite the fact that they are working, not in secret, they don't make any secret about the
00:32:53.600
fact that they're trying to upend Alberta's economy. Despite that, the fact that that's their
00:32:57.920
goal, who are they supporting in this election? They're supporting the Alberta NDP.
00:33:02.480
Yeah. You know, I wonder if Kenny has the toughness to go through with this. I mean,
00:33:07.760
let me give you a small example. Did you know that Syncrude, which is one of the largest oil companies in
00:33:14.780
the oil sense? I think it might be the largest. They sued Greenpeace for trespass once. Did you
00:33:21.760
even know that, Lorne? No, I did not. And it was just amazing to me, because you would think Greenpeace
00:33:26.140
would be squawking about it and shaming Syncrude. Most people I ask haven't heard of that. And I think
00:33:32.260
it's because the discovery process is so embarrassing. And the last I looked at the lawsuit was
00:33:39.080
moving extremely slowly. But one of the things Greenpeace had to do, Lorne, was to go through and show
00:33:44.960
their list of relevant records. So that included all the emails to the local hooligans, all the expense
00:33:53.360
chits, all of that stuff. We'll show some of them on the screen here. So I don't think Syncrude was
00:34:00.060
looking to make money by suing Greenpeace. Syncrude makes money by selling oil. But by exposing and
00:34:07.200
rooting around and shining the light of scrutiny, now, I don't know why Syncrude hasn't been noisier
00:34:12.280
about it. But that's the way to kill these foreign groups, is to turn over the rock and watch them
00:34:17.940
squirm in the light. A lot of the big oil companies, even if they are, for instance, like Syncrude,
00:34:24.640
suing Greenpeace for trespass, really are very reluctant to make big noise about this, because
00:34:33.360
they really don't want to provoke more protesters. They don't want to upset governments. You remember
00:34:41.720
when Rachel Notley brought in her carbon tax in November of 2015, there were people from the four
00:34:49.760
largest oil sands companies on stage with her. Now, what we didn't know at the time was that they had
00:34:54.300
all cut deals with her, that their companies would have far fewer emission restrictions put on them
00:35:00.000
than others in the industry. But there they were saying, oh, no, we want to be socially responsible
00:35:06.700
corporate citizens, et cetera, et cetera. They play that PR game. You know what? And I don't think
00:35:11.660
it's a game. Unfortunately, I think an awful lot of those CEOs, they live in rarefied air.
00:35:17.560
Their jobs really aren't under threat from silly government policies. And so they do, you know,
00:35:25.420
they don't want to go to a cocktail party and have someone come up and poke them in the chest and say,
00:35:29.340
you're going to ruin the planet for my children. And so they go along with these silly emission
00:35:36.800
reduction fairy tales like social license. And that's, I think, probably why Syncrude's not making
00:35:43.540
more of a fuss about what it's learning from the Greenpeace lawsuit.
00:35:47.120
You know, you're so right about those fancy CEOs. I think of Murray Edwards,
00:35:52.000
the billionaire who was one of the four men on stage with Rachel Notley there. I think he has
00:35:57.300
since decamped for London. It's a little bit fancier there for him, I guess, with all those other oil
00:36:02.500
barons, the Saudis mainly. I think that they have a lot to answer for. I mean, they're businessmen. I
00:36:11.100
suppose they were looking out for number one, looking out for their shareholders. But politically,
00:36:14.440
they, I think, helped sink the province because they undermined any opposition
00:36:18.840
from the industry. One of my ideas I had on yesterday's show, and I'm sorry, I'm going over
00:36:24.180
it with you and you may not have had the benefit of watching it. I had one of my six suggestions
00:36:28.640
was that Kenny not meet with self-hating oil executives. So if there's someone out there who's,
00:36:37.920
you know, sponsoring the Pemida Institute annual gala, Shell does that, Suncor does that. If there's
00:36:44.120
someone out there who's saying, we love a carbon tax, Jason Kenney, as premier, should not be mean
00:36:48.620
to them. He shouldn't tax them or punish them. He should just say, you know what? I run a province
00:36:54.800
of 4.5 million people. A lot of them are hurting. I'm going to meet with the guys who don't like the
00:37:00.160
pain. You carbon tax boosters, you can meet, you can meet amongst yourselves. I'm not going to give
00:37:05.360
you any face time. You big executive managers who report to a board of directors of a publicly traded
00:37:13.260
company, do whatever you do. I'm interested, if I'm, Kenny, I'd say I'm interested in the guy who
00:37:19.840
has 120 people working for him in an oil field service company or the four guys who were just
00:37:25.180
put out of work as welders because, you know, the little company that they had that did part of a
00:37:31.100
pipeline no longer has enough business to keep them employed. Those are the people who make up
00:37:35.880
the backbone of Alberta. And sure, it'd be nice if the big fancy pants executives would come along.
00:37:42.760
I'd love them to understand how the short-term protection of their shareholders' interest is in
00:37:49.340
their long-term harm. It's going to do long-term harm to their companies. But if they don't want to come
00:37:56.240
along and be nice, then there are hundreds of companies and hundreds of thousands of working
00:38:02.620
Albertans that Kenny should be meeting with instead. Yeah. Well, it goes to that fancy pants,
00:38:07.540
people at a cocktail party. If, I think his name is Steve Williams. I think he's still running Suncor.
00:38:12.860
I haven't followed it that closely. If these fancy international jet-setting millionaire go to the art
00:38:19.880
auction and buy a million-dollar painting, collect fine wine kind of oil man, who probably started
00:38:26.580
off in cowboy boots with a pickup truck and now are just trying to impress their new friends. If they
00:38:34.020
are marginalized, if Jason Kenny won't take a phone call from Murray Edwards anymore, if Jason Kenny or
00:38:40.640
his energy minister won't take a meeting with Suncor anymore or Shell anymore, then you're playing on
00:38:47.800
their ego and they're wanting to be polite society. You have a premier's oil and gas gala and they're
00:38:55.720
not invited. Maybe you can turn peer pressure to your benefit. I guess I'm just saying, you know,
00:39:02.920
10 years ago... He doesn't need to go cozying up to them. I mean, whether or not he has a boycott of
00:39:07.580
those guys, I don't care. Yeah. But he doesn't need to cozy up to them. He doesn't need to play
00:39:11.760
favors, you know, he doesn't need to play favorites with them and try and win them over.
00:39:17.840
They'll either come over or they won't. You know what? I remember when I wrote my book,
00:39:22.220
Ethical Oil, and I would give talks about it, and I was often asked to speak to oil companies in
00:39:26.780
Calgary. And people would say, why are you doing that? Why are you always, you know, giving a sermon
00:39:32.180
to the choir? Why are you always preaching to the converted? And I thought, no, no, no, you misunderstand
00:39:38.460
it. That's where the problem starts. The problem starts from self-hating oil executives whose minds have
00:39:45.460
been conditioned and colonized by the Sephora Burmans. They're, I mean, like I say, a lot of
00:39:50.600
these oil companies are sponsoring the Pembina Foundations, sponsoring the Green Pieces, believe
00:39:55.120
it or not. And I think that you have to start by getting oil men to respect themselves. If they
00:40:01.940
don't respect themselves, how could a premier respect them? How could a prime minister of all
00:40:05.300
Canada respect them? It starts by stopping the self-hating disease.
00:40:10.840
Yeah, for sure. And it also starts by going back to the science of climate change and global warming.
00:40:17.940
When you concede that climate change is happening and it's going to be bad and it's caused by human
00:40:25.200
activity, how do you argue against stopping it? Yeah, right.
00:40:30.160
What you have to do is say, look, there's all sorts of scientists who, solid, high-profile
00:40:37.760
scientists at respectable universities who don't think this is happening. And here's why they don't
00:40:42.560
think it's happening. And the reason that's important is that then you don't have to argue,
00:40:46.980
well, yes, we know that we're going to destroy the climate, but we just can't destroy the economy
00:40:51.580
too. So you have to let us destroy the environment in order to keep people working. And that's basically
00:40:56.980
where we've gotten to with people of a conservative ilk in the Western world, is that they concede
00:41:04.400
the science of climate change, but then they have to make economic arguments that it's too expensive
00:41:11.340
to do anything about it. And as soon as you do that, you say, oh, I'm okay for destroying the environment.
00:41:16.800
I just don't want to see people lose their jobs over it. Yeah. Well, let me ask you, I haven't,
00:41:21.020
now that I think about it, I haven't heard Jason Kenney in an extremely clear way address the science
00:41:26.500
issue. I don't know if he has. Have you seen him do so? No, I haven't. You know what it did to
00:41:32.540
Danielle Smith in 2012, though, when she, in the last week of the campaign, decided to take on the
00:41:38.840
science of global warming. I think it's one of those things that's been so ingrained. We're now
00:41:43.220
into the third generation of children going through public schools who've been indoctrinated with the
00:41:49.140
climate change sermons. And it's going to take a long time to start backing that up and start
00:41:57.100
pulling people away from that mentality. And so it's something that I think the next Alberta
00:42:02.020
government has to start to do. And even if it's just taking baby steps. Yeah. Well, it's very
00:42:06.880
interesting. I'm hopeful. My one fear, Lauren, I have a few fears, but my one of them is that Jason
00:42:13.180
Kenney, because he lived in Ottawa for so long and the media has so much power in Ottawa, I fear he's
00:42:20.560
too submissive to them and he cares too much about what the CBC says. And I'm worried that he, unlike
00:42:28.200
Trump, who has a healthy contempt for the media, I'm worried Jason Kenney will let the media shape
00:42:33.820
him. And they're certainly setting themselves up to be the official opposition. Am I just indulging my
00:42:39.440
own antipathy? You know what, Jason's a very tough guy. And he could have at many occasions when he
00:42:44.920
was immigration minister, fallen for the political correctness attacks that the CBC and the Toronto
00:42:51.400
Star and the Globe and Mail and the rest of them were launching at him about, for instance, the manual
00:42:56.620
they had for newcomers to teach them Canadian values or the idea that, you know, take a look at the one
00:43:02.400
example right now. He and Stephen Harper set up the safe third country rule. So if you'd come to Canada
00:43:11.100
from a safe country, you couldn't claim refugee status here. And there was gnawing and gnashing
00:43:17.460
and wailing and, oh, that's so racist. You're condemning people to death. I can't believe you did.
00:43:24.800
What have the liberals just done in the most recent budget document? They've done even more than that.
00:43:30.780
They'll send people back to countries that aren't on our safe third country list if they've come here
00:43:37.680
illegally. So, you know, he put up with a whole bunch of attacks when he was immigration minister, fewer
00:43:45.060
when he was defense minister, but he's a tough guy. And I do think he's actually he actually means to set up
00:43:51.420
a war room to go after people like the Tar Sands campaign who are trying to under deliberately trying to
00:43:58.140
undermine the Alberta economy. Well, it's gonna be very interesting. I am looking forward to it. I
00:44:03.700
think it'll be the beginning of a healing for Alberta. It's not gonna happen immediately. And
00:44:09.000
the beginning of a fight back nationally. Doug Ford has been very good on the carbon tax. Of course,
00:44:16.240
Scott Moe in Saskatchewan has been excellent, but he's one premier in a small province. I think when
00:44:22.540
Jason Kenney joins that trio right there, and in some cases, Francois Legault of Quebec, I think
00:44:28.280
you're starting to see some pushback against Justin Trudeau. Yeah, absolutely. Last word, I know I've
00:44:33.640
kept you very long here. Is there anything you're looking at in tonight, tomorrow's results? Is there
00:44:40.200
anything you're wondering about? You know what? We may not know the results on Tuesday. There have been
00:44:46.260
over 220,000 votes cast outside of the ridings in which the people reside. This is the first time
00:44:54.440
that the Alberta elections have allowed you to vote anywhere in the province during the advance
00:45:00.480
polls. You can't do it during election day, but in the advance polls, you could vote in any advance
00:45:05.480
poll, whether it was in your riding or not. There's 220,000 plus ballots that were cast there,
00:45:12.000
and they will not be counted until starting at 1 p.m. the day after the election. And there are going
00:45:19.440
to be ridings. There are some ridings that have received as many as 5,700 ballots from outside of
00:45:26.340
the riding. And so I can see a situation where it's pretty obvious the UCP are going to win, but it isn't
00:45:33.040
mathematically certain, and the NDP won't concede, and we'll have this count going on until Thursday or
00:45:39.980
Friday at drawing it all out. So that's the one concern I have.
00:45:45.300
Isn't that interesting? Well, Lauren, thanks so much for your time and your advice. I look forward to
00:45:49.520
talking to you after tomorrow's election. It'll be very interesting, and to watch Alberta's recovery.
00:45:56.920
All right, there you have it. Lauren Gunter, senior columnist with the Edmonton Sun. Stay with us.
00:46:09.980
Hey, welcome back on my monologue Friday about Rachel Notley being shocked, just shocked, that anti-oil science
00:46:17.620
protesters are being foreign-funded. Ron writes, Notley says, I'm frustrated by it, of course.
00:46:23.800
Frustrated that the scam has been unearthed by Vivian Krauss. Yeah, yeah, it's just nothing could be less
00:46:29.280
credible. And like I say, it wasn't just back in the day when she was anti-pipeline. She literally put Ed
00:46:35.360
Whittingham and the Pemina Institute on the energy regulator just like a month ago.
00:46:40.740
Bruce writes, I love the coverage you're giving to this Alberta election. My feeling was the same
00:46:44.740
for last year's Ontario Conservative victory. Thanks for the reassurance about Bozo eruptions not being
00:46:49.320
an issue in this election. Well, I haven't been on the ground in Alberta that much. I got to be here
00:46:53.640
in Toronto most of the time where our main operation is. But you've probably seen some of the amazing
00:46:58.280
videos by my friends Sheila and Kian. They have been so busy and so well-received, and I talk to them
00:47:03.920
each every day. Frankly, I tell them every time I say, I wish I was out there. They're doing so
00:47:08.380
much good stuff with the lawn signs, the Stop Notley book, the banner jumbotron truck that Kian had.
00:47:15.320
I think they're doing great. I hope you'll agree. Oh, by the way, Kian showed me his video about
00:47:19.960
Anne McGrath, the communist candidate running for Rachel Notley in Calgary Varsity. That is the number
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one most watched video on YouTube of any channel, us, CTV, CBC, Global. It's the number one most watched
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YouTube video about the Alberta election. Isn't that something? Just in terms of raw number of
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viewers, that video by Kian was the most watched video in the Alberta election. That's a fact.
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Speaking of Kian, Jan writes, I just love Kian. He's smart. He's cool. And he was born to be a rebel
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between Sheila and Kian. Albertans are in good hands. Good luck with the election. Can't wait to
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watch it. Well, you know, my feelings exactly. I'm very proud of them both. They're very, very different
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in their backgrounds and personalities. And I think they're a great pair also. And they work together
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closely, as you can see. And, you know, we call Sheila the bureau chief because she's sort of the boss
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out there. And she works with Kian. And I think it's a very harmonious, like this really got a lot
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of smarts, a lot of initiative taking. I'm very proud of our Alberta team. And maybe I call myself
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an honorary part of the Alberta team because that's where I was from originally. Well, folks, that's
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our show for today until tomorrow. Election day in Alberta. There's so much going on tomorrow.
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But by the way, you don't have to be from Alberta to want to give Notley the boot. Am I right?
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Until then, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home. Good night.