Rebel News Podcast - Alberta keeps moving the lockdown goalposts： United We Roll founder Glen Carritt

00:00:00.000 Hello Rebels, you're listening to a free audio only recording of my weekly Wednesday night show,

00:00:04.580 The Gun Show. Now tonight my guest is a bit of a rebel and a renegade himself. It's former

00:00:10.820 Innisfail town councillor Glenn Carrot. Now you might know him as Glenn Carrot, organizer of the

00:00:17.760 Convoy to Ottawa with United We Roll, but he's also a mayoral candidate and a member of the

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00:01:23.340 A prominent member of the Anti-Lockdown Caucus speaks to me tonight about these never-ending

00:01:32.560 lockdowns here in Alberta and unbelievably how he ended up under investigation for not taking a

00:01:39.300 knee to Black Lives Matter. I know it's crazy. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:53.340 Oh hi everyone. I'm out and about again tonight chasing Fight the Fines cases. So I'm once again

00:02:07.980 not in my usual studio. Our Fight the Fines campaign is our largest civil liberties campaign

00:02:14.080 to date where we take on fighting these lockdown tickets and fighting for freedom

00:02:18.620 one Canadian at a time. If you'd like to help us fight these ridiculous lockdown tickets you can

00:02:25.440 donate today at fightthefines.com. Now speaking of lockdown restrictions, I'm sure you've heard by

00:02:33.300 now about the Anti-Lockdown Caucus. It's made up of municipal, provincial, and even federal politicians

00:02:39.400 who are opposed to the coronavirus lockdown restrictions on our civil liberties and our businesses

00:02:46.140 and our ability to worship. One of the first members of the Lockdown Caucus or the Anti-Lockdown

00:02:52.120 Caucus I should say is a familiar face and someone I greatly admire. It was Glenn Carrich of United We

00:02:58.500 Rule. Now some of you may not know that Glenn has been a councillor in his local municipality of

00:03:04.740 Innisfail, Alberta and he's currently running to be the mayor there. Glenn has been supportive of

00:03:10.900 small businesses that are willing to break the lockdown restrictions to throw their doors open to

00:03:15.960 customers again. It's something that might be technically against the letter of the law but

00:03:22.340 it is something that is morally right and just. So today I have Glenn on the show talking about a whole

00:03:28.940 host of issues including how the lockdown is attacking religious freedom, how the Alberta government

00:03:33.980 seems to keep moving the lockdown goalposts, and how the heck Glenn ended up under investigation by

00:03:41.540 his town council for not taking a knee to Black Lives Matter. It is insane. Check out this interview

00:03:50.760 re-recorded earlier this morning when I was still at home.

00:03:55.100 So joining me now is Glenn Carrich. He's a mayoral candidate for Innisfail, but he's also a member of the

00:04:16.600 lockdown caucus. Glenn, thanks for joining me. Most people know you as Glenn Carrich from United We

00:04:22.080 you took a convoy of Albertans and Westerners and our concerns all the way to Ottawa, but now you're

00:04:31.040 still fighting for freedom. As a member of the lockdown caucus or the anti-lockdown caucus, first of

00:04:37.100 all, why did you join that thing and what do you hope to accomplish by being a part of it?

00:04:42.560 Well, good morning Sheila and thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it. I joined it because I

00:04:47.820 believe in the message they're portraying, you know, you got Randy Hillier, Derek Sloan,

00:04:53.180 some very, very prominent names in the Liberty Coalition Canada caucus, and we all have the same

00:05:01.320 message that these lockdowns are unwarranted for, you know, for the numbers that's going on, the

00:05:07.620 emergency that's, that they portray that's going on does not warrant all these businesses being shut

00:05:12.840 down. And we're, you know, we're, uh, either elected officials or not a past former elected

00:05:18.280 officials. And we're just trying to get out this message that there's, there's more to this picture

00:05:23.200 than just health. Health is always number one, safety and health is always number one. Of course,

00:05:27.180 we get that, but there's more to it. Um, economists, uh, you know, I had, uh, an economist, uh, on my show

00:05:35.520 the other day and, uh, he said, nobody's on talking to the province about economy, et cetera. And, and,

00:05:42.360 uh, ERP's emergency response plans just doesn't make sense what, what we have going on right now.

00:05:48.060 So that's why I joined it. I think it's a, it's a good force out there, a good, a good group of people

00:05:53.180 that, that want to move the, move businesses to get, getting the country open.

00:05:57.960 Now, I guess what, what are some of the goals? So you want to open up the economy,

00:06:02.900 get everybody back to work. That's something that I firmly believe in are, is, do you want to sort

00:06:10.380 of remove some of these emergency powers that the government, I guess, has sort of snatched for

00:06:15.280 themselves? Um, and they have all this additional power and this, all, all this extra, extra ability

00:06:21.620 to make decisions without going before the legislature. For me, that's one of the most concerning

00:06:26.460 things is I didn't vote for chief medical officer of health, Dina Hinshaw, yet she's

00:06:32.760 running my life and I have no way of holding her to account.

00:06:35.980 Yeah, exactly. And, and I think there was a statement or a, um, broadcast that came out

00:06:42.060 just the other day that gave Dr. Hinshaw even more power that she can enforce the law.

00:06:46.560 And yeah, this is wrong. What people need to realize is that this is not the law. These,

00:06:50.800 these are health regulations and the laws have to go in front of legislature. And yes, we vote the,

00:06:56.740 we vote people in and we vote, voted Jason Kenney in and whether, whether you like what he's doing

00:07:01.500 or not, he is our elected official, but they, they shouldn't have the right to enforce these,

00:07:06.280 these laws on us. We still need to have freedom of, as a business owner, as a fellow business owner.

00:07:12.280 Uh, I, you know, I need to have my freedom to run my business as, as I wish. If you don't want to

00:07:17.640 come into my business and you don't feel safe, then that's totally up to you. But I, but we need the

00:07:22.200 freedoms in our country to, to be able to open our business and run our businesses as we decide fit.

00:07:28.320 Now there are two, uh, right now, two members of Jason Kenney's caucus that are also members of the

00:07:40.500 anti-lockdown caucus. So we've got Drew Barnes and Angela Pitt and Drew Barnes. He's always a bit of

00:07:46.200 a renegade and a rebel. I, I like Drew. He, he prickles against the consensus of his party in favor of

00:07:53.360 freedom, which I think is great. But Angela Pitt, I mean, she's a prominent member of the caucus.

00:08:00.200 I think she's the deputy whip. Um, are there more like them? I guess those two were the bravest ones

00:08:08.140 that came out officially, but I'm sure in the circles that you travel in, you have heard that

00:08:14.600 there are other MLAs who feel the same way they do, but maybe just aren't as outspoken.

00:08:20.020 Yeah, I believe, you know, I first met Drew Barnes on the way back from, from Ottawa. He presented a

00:08:25.500 belt buckle to me and a flag and, and, uh, you know, it was there, there to meet us and greet us.

00:08:30.680 And, uh, I gained a lot of respect for, for Drew at that time, uh, you know, because he, he was going,

00:08:36.300 you know, I don't, I don't know if I want to say against the grain because the grain is your people.

00:08:41.100 And I, and I think he's actually moving with the grain of the people and yeah, it's against,

00:08:45.160 against, uh, a little bit of, of the premier's game grain, but we need to be able to, to speak

00:08:51.480 out and, and have those conversations. You don't always have to agree. It doesn't mean you're,

00:08:56.420 you're representing the whole, um, you know, UCP party in that regard, but you have to, you have to

00:09:02.780 be able to speak your mind. And that's some of the troubles I've been going through with

00:09:05.880 on, on town council. And yeah, it's great to see Angela Pitt on there. Um, you know,

00:09:11.140 two very prominent people. And, and I do believe there's more, I believe, I believe a lot of MLAs

00:09:17.700 really would like to speak out. I mean, I obviously can't speak for, for any of them,

00:09:22.200 but I, I see that people are starting to realize that there's a big problem with what's going on in

00:09:27.820 the numbers. And I just released, actually, I didn't release the, uh, AHS. I posted an AHS,

00:09:34.280 uh, chart on ICU numbers and 2020 is actually down from 2019 and down from, and, and, or very

00:09:43.940 consistent. And I mean, I've worked in the medical business, uh, fire business for over 20 years,

00:09:49.280 and we've, we've done hallway medicine for, for years. So to say that our hospitals are overloaded

00:09:56.940 and our ICUs are overloaded right now is, is not true. I mean, it is true. They are overloaded,

00:10:02.460 but they are always overloaded. I've spent hours with, with numerous people in the hallways waiting

00:10:08.360 for beds. So this is not a new problem. We need to fix problem is the healthcare and we need to fix

00:10:13.640 the problems in healthcare. And I suspect you're like me that fixing the problems with healthcare

00:10:20.320 does not mean just dumping more money on salaries. It actually means rethinking how we do things in

00:10:26.720 this province. No, it doesn't. I mean, all you got to do is put the sunshine list on, of AHS and it's,

00:10:34.380 uh, and it's a public, um, document out there of, of people that have retired and the amounts of money

00:10:40.160 that they're paying. It's, it's exorbitant and we need to, you know, there's, uh, we need to look at

00:10:47.100 the, at the whole, whole, uh, AHS as a, as a whole and maybe, uh, you know, you crumble it and start

00:10:54.500 over, which is very difficult, but, but we really need to look at the whole system of, of the waste.

00:10:59.500 And it's the same as governments. We have such huge government overspending and AHS has huge

00:11:05.460 overspending and it, and it has to stop. We can't continue to sustain that. We all, everybody thinks

00:11:10.360 it's free, but it's not free. We all pay for it as we, as we know. Right. Yeah. I don't think we

00:11:17.240 should be doing more of the same when the same continues to fail in the same apparently was not

00:11:22.280 prepared for, uh, uh, something that hospitalization rates look very similar to the seasonal flu every

00:11:30.900 year. Now I want to ask you about your mayoral campaign in Innisfail, cause you just sort of

00:11:36.480 touched on it. You were a town councilor in Innisfail, perfect town councilor on paper.

00:11:42.860 I'm local businessman, pro energy, a community activist, um, a booster of Innisfail and small

00:11:51.000 businesses, but town council did not feel the same way about you that I do. And you had some,

00:11:58.620 some pressure from them and you sort of resigned in protest, but now to, I guess, to show them all

00:12:04.800 whose boss you're running for mayor. Um, can you give us an update on what's going on there?

00:12:09.480 Sure. Yeah, actually they just finished the investigation and, uh, they came.

00:12:13.840 Whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on. So you had an investigation into you for, for what?

00:12:19.300 It was a code of conduct investigation. And, and I will say that I, I actually voted in favor of,

00:12:25.420 of having the code of conduct because quite frankly, every time I would speak to any,

00:12:30.520 any, any residents in town or, you know, went, went to any rally or anything like that,

00:12:36.560 I was grilled on town council, uh, for, for speaking out or, you know, having, having basically

00:12:43.780 a different, different opinion. And, and they didn't think that it represented council as a whole.

00:12:49.940 And, and my philosophy is that if we can't speak or go to these rallies and, and learn and listen and,

00:12:58.020 and speak your mind, then, then you're just, uh, you know, a puppet sitting in,

00:13:03.460 sitting in council and going along with status quo. Uh, you know, if they would prefer that you

00:13:08.100 just go from your home to council, home to council, then, you know, you're not representing

00:13:11.940 the people and we have to be able to talk to the people. You don't have to like it. You don't have

00:13:14.860 to agree with me. I've never said anybody needs to agree with me. And one of the big allegations

00:13:20.440 was, was that they, they thought that I invoked fear in our community at the black matter rally.

00:13:27.400 And, you know, they, they supported the black lives matter rally. I did not, I went to it,

00:13:32.920 um, as I've been to many rallies and I feel it's their, their right to go to a rally, just like it's

00:13:38.220 my right to go to a rally. And, and I never asked for a code of conduct because they went to a rally.

00:13:43.640 So it just, the hypocrisy is, is definitely there. And, uh, they actually have allegations against

00:13:50.220 me, uh, for the convoy that, that it didn't represent council, uh, as a whole. Now here's

00:13:57.160 the, here's the kicker is that we had another code of conduct investigation a little over a year ago

00:14:02.960 with another councillor. And, uh, and I was investigated because you, as a councillor, if you're

00:14:09.440 on council and we do a code of conduct, everybody's subject to investigation. So at that time, well

00:14:15.060 over a year ago, when we did that investigation, I was found not to breach any code of conduct with

00:14:20.580 the convoy that, that they found, I asked permission, you know, I told the council that this

00:14:25.340 is what I was doing. And, uh, they were in agreeance with it as long as I wasn't representing

00:14:29.200 the town, which I did not. And, uh, so this time around with the code of conduct that they found 36

00:14:35.700 allegations against me, they, they, they found that I did breach the code of conduct for the

00:14:41.440 convoy. So the hypocrisy is, is endless. And it, to me, it's only as good as the person that's

00:14:49.280 paying, paying the bill of the investigator because it was, and I'll also make this clear,

00:14:53.700 same investigator, same company, same person that found that I didn't breach the code of conduct

00:14:59.460 for the convoy originally has now found me breaching the code of conduct. There was so much

00:15:04.720 the, there was actually allegations that said that Glenn Carrot only hangs out with a certain type

00:15:11.840 of person. You mean like your friends? So, uh, you know, it's become a bit of a joke, I guess,

00:15:19.720 at coffee time in the morning, because I said, you guys better be careful of who you're hanging out

00:15:24.420 with, but they're trying to paint, uh, they're trying to paint me into a box of being, uh, you know,

00:15:29.560 white supremacist and racist. And, uh, you know what, you can call me, call me all the, all the

00:15:34.940 names you want. I know who I am. I know that I, that I love people all the same. And, uh, if you show

00:15:40.600 me respect, I'll show you respect back. And, uh, it doesn't matter to me where you come from. So they,

00:15:46.620 they just try to paint you into this, into this box because they don't like the, what you're, what

00:15:52.300 you're saying. And we have to get out of this, that when you're out talking or going to rallies

00:15:57.460 or talking to people that you're representing council. Yes, you have to, you can't say that

00:16:03.400 council like Innisfail all believes in the council of Innisfail believes all in this, or the council

00:16:08.740 of Red Deer, that obviously that's against, would be against court of conduct, but we have to be able

00:16:13.760 to be individuals and speak, speak our minds and be able to talk to the user groups and talk to people.

00:16:18.600 And then at the end of the day, the judge and jury is the, is the election. If you don't,

00:16:23.520 if you don't like, uh, my voice, if you don't like that, I, that I stand up for freedom of choice.

00:16:28.680 If you don't like that, I stand up for oil and gas. If you don't like that, I want to see less

00:16:32.880 government and, uh, holding administration in a municipal government accountable, then,

00:16:38.760 then don't vote for me. But if you like those things, if you want, if you want me to represent

00:16:42.700 and fight for you, then, then I'm your guy. You know, the thing with that black

00:16:48.540 lives matter protests that came to Innisfail, those weren't Innisfail locals. Those were imported

00:16:54.800 trucked in activists from Calgary that came to call your community racist, which is not something

00:17:02.240 that the immigrant business owners that Kian Bexty talked to said about Innisfail. They said it

00:17:09.280 was a welcoming place and they were happy to be there. You showed up to represent the other side

00:17:14.080 of the story as someone who is proud of your community and who doesn't think that Innisfail

00:17:18.860 is a racist place to be. And for that, I guess town council has decided that you instill fear in

00:17:25.900 the community for standing up for the community. You made the community fearful. You know, who's

00:17:30.960 scared? I think the other, uh, cowards on town council who didn't have the guts to stand up for

00:17:37.460 their community the way you did. Well, they don't, you know, the part of the problem is, is that they,

00:17:42.200 they haven't investigated, they haven't done the research on, on BLM itself. And, and listen, I'm

00:17:47.880 all, I'm all in favor of anti-racism, of course. Of course. I mean, we all are, but, but to paint,

00:17:54.480 the problem is, is that they, they painted Innisfail, as you said, with a brush that you're all Innisfail,

00:17:59.080 or sorry, that you're all, um, racist. In fact, a certain member on council went on to the Ryan

00:18:04.780 Jesperson show and said, shame on Innisfail for being racist. But to me, that's completely wrong.

00:18:12.700 And, uh, again, um, you know, I didn't run to the code of conduct on that particular person for what

00:18:17.680 she said. That's, that's up, you know, that's, I, that's really her, I don't agree with it. It's her

00:18:23.520 choice to say, um, but you shouldn't shame your community. I believe, I believe our community, do we

00:18:28.640 have, uh, some racist people in our community? Of course. What, what community doesn't, right?

00:18:34.780 But we can't paint everybody with the brush that, and say, Innisfail as in a general population

00:18:40.780 is racist because now every single person in Innisfail walks out the door thinking, oh,

00:18:46.300 who thinks I'm racist this morning? Right? I talked to a young lady, Rosa, Rosa Murphy. I'm not

00:18:50.960 sure if I sent you that, that interview, but she, she said she walks out her, out her door right now

00:18:56.180 and said, and before the rally, she felt comfortable. And now she feels that people think that she's part

00:19:02.000 of BLM and she, she knows BLM and she's studied it and knows that it's a Marxist organization.

00:19:07.340 And, and the problem getting back to the town council is they didn't research who BLM was

00:19:13.520 to stand up against them. And I, I have, and I knew, and they didn't take that into, into consideration

00:19:19.800 that, that I actually knew who Antifa was and who BLM was. And they jumped in, in with both feet and,

00:19:26.460 and, and, uh, you know, and I didn't want to support them. I, I didn't, uh, other members of council went

00:19:32.420 actually and kneeled, kneeled to BLM and every, well, every single one of them, uh, including the

00:19:38.440 mayor. And I did not, of course, cause I kneeled to the God and that's, that's, that's it, of course.

00:19:44.880 So, and, and I have no problem saying that. And I have, and I'm, and I'm convicted of, of who I

00:19:50.860 believe BLM is. And all I ever ask is prove me wrong. Tell me, follow the money. And I say to do

00:19:57.480 your research. And if somebody can prove me wrong, then I'll, then I'll change my views, but it hasn't

00:20:02.220 happened yet as you know, because that's the truth as I see it. Well, and this idea that there's only

00:20:08.040 one way to be anti-racist and that is to subscribe to everything that BLM says, I think is, is a false

00:20:15.900 idea. There are plenty of other ways to be against racism than having to sign up for the goals and

00:20:24.160 ideals and the Marxism of Black Lives Matter. There's not just one way to care about your fellow

00:20:30.380 man. And, um, it's really kind of pathetic to see these town councillors taking me to the golden

00:20:41.980 calf of BLM Marxism, um, without doing any research whatsoever. Those are not the kind of people that

00:20:48.820 I want representing my community. And, and I think that a lot of people in Innisfail probably feel the

00:20:55.680 same way as I do. Yeah, I think so. You know, it's, it's, uh, uh, it's going to be very interesting

00:21:01.800 come October, um, because, uh, you know, uh, Councillor Barclay is running against me and she,

00:21:08.320 uh, we, we definitely see things differently. And, and, um, you know, the unfortunate part is we,

00:21:13.640 we actually used to, uh, have coffee once a week and collaborate on, you know, talking together about

00:21:19.480 the town. And ever since the social economic issues have come up, we've definitely seen a big divide

00:21:24.460 in the community. And it's not typical of a municipal government because we typically don't

00:21:29.220 get into these social economic issues per se, but this pandemic and, uh, and, you know, BLM and the,

00:21:36.640 and the United States election, et cetera. And with our, um, current prime minister, all of these,

00:21:42.020 uh, issues are coming to the forefront and it's, and there's a huge divide in our town and it's,

00:21:47.800 and it's very unfortunate. I would, uh, I hope you're right. Come October, we'll see,

00:21:52.420 you know, do people want somebody that's going to stand up for them or, or to kneel? So that that's

00:21:58.300 going to be the question. I am hopeful. I'm hopeful. Now I wanted to ask you, I guess I have two more

00:22:06.880 questions for you. Um, because you, you're being so generous with your time this morning. I wanted

00:22:13.120 to ask you about, okay, so we're filming this on Wednesday morning. Uh, Alberta at the beginning

00:22:19.600 of the week here said that they are moving into phase two of ending the lockdown, but phase two

00:22:25.640 looks a heck of a lot, just like phase one. Um, and they've completely moved the goalposts. What

00:22:30.840 they said we were allowed in phase two, they're, they're changing that so that fewer of those

00:22:35.100 things are allowed. And the things that are allowed are at reduced capacity of what they had

00:22:40.300 predicted. For example, you can go to the gym and you can go on the treadmill, but you damn sure

00:22:46.780 better not run on the treadmill because we can't do high intensity workouts. We can only do low

00:22:51.960 intensity workouts. We can do group fitness, but it can only be stretching and yoga. You can't do,

00:22:57.640 um, like kickboxing Taibo or whatever. Um, as you can tell, it's been a long time since I've been

00:23:04.140 in like an actual gym because I don't even think Taibo is a thing anymore, but, but you know what I

00:23:09.120 mean? Like none of it makes any sense. They said kids could start doing sports again. Kids aren't

00:23:13.800 doing sports, but they can do sports training. Um, why do you think the government is just doing

00:23:19.040 this constant bait and switch thing with, you know, giving us back our freedoms? Well, yeah,

00:23:25.360 you know, exactly. First of all, not, not once has Dr. Hinshaw came on or Premier Kenny. I mean,

00:23:31.040 Premier Kenny is not the health expert per se, as they, as they claim Dr. Hinshaw is, but not once

00:23:36.680 has she come on and said, you know, you need to have, take vitamin D, you need to get exercise,

00:23:40.900 you need to get sunshine. You need to be active, to stay healthy. So not once have they said that.

00:23:46.120 So there's, there's obviously a disconnect there, but if we go back to a year ago in, you know,

00:23:52.380 March of last year, and we all know this two weeks to flatten the curve. Okay. Well, the curve never

00:23:57.440 really went up. The ICU were, uh, as we've seen in the chart that I sent out where the ICU rates

00:24:04.640 weren't increased. So, so then we open up again, he apologizes, Premier Kenny actually apologizes for

00:24:11.360 having a lockdown. Two weeks later, he, that has another lockdown, but states that it's not a

00:24:16.880 lockdown. But I, what I'll question is you ask any business, any gym owner or any restaurant that was

00:24:22.460 closed down, if that's a lockdown to them, because it sure is a lockdown. If my business was closed down,

00:24:28.480 that's a lockdown, not call it what you want, but it's a lockdown. So then he said, it's another two

00:24:33.340 weeks. And, uh, so we had, so we had the two weeks in December and then you get, uh, people like, uh,

00:24:40.540 Natalie Klein from blades and fades that are so frustrated and at their wits end, they're at their

00:24:44.580 end of their line for income and decide that they have to open and good for her. And so she opens.

00:24:51.540 And so there's a little bit of pressure and, and the pressure gets, uh, Premier Kenny to move forward

00:24:56.880 with opening barbershops, et cetera. And, and there's been a little bit of pressure with restaurants. So

00:25:01.760 those, those have opened up and, and now they're, they're two-weaking us to death, as you can see,

00:25:06.900 because there's, you know, the, if they would have said, we're going to lock down for a year,

00:25:11.460 of course, everybody would have said, you know, go pump sand. We're not doing that. So that they

00:25:16.120 continue to two-week us to death and then going back to March to flatten the curve. And then it was

00:25:21.560 case, case, case, case. And now it's, we can't, we have to stay locked down until the vaccine.

00:25:25.900 So is it, so to me, why didn't you just say in the beginning, we're going to, if, if this is the

00:25:32.000 way it was going to be, you're going to lock down until the vaccine comes out, then at least tell us,

00:25:35.740 because that to me, that's what it's about is the vaccine, whether you believe in it or not,

00:25:40.840 then stop lying. Right. So that we just have to get, we just have to keep moving forward

00:25:47.960 and tell the truth about why, why you have these lockdowns. Is it about the vaccine or is it about

00:25:53.600 cases and the actual virus? Because it doesn't, the numbers do not appear that the virus was as

00:25:59.940 big as a concern as what they had first anticipated. I think they keep moving the goalposts because if

00:26:07.940 they had told us at the beginning, well, you have to basically stay locked down until a vaccine is

00:26:13.800 developed and you receive it, nobody would have played along. But there's like two weeks to flatten

00:26:19.360 the curve, two weeks to flatten the curve. Oh, a month of, what do they call it? A circuit breaker

00:26:23.980 lockdown. You know, when they break a year and a half of your life into two week spans, it's easy

00:26:30.280 to feed that garbage to you and you don't get sick and die from it, from feeding the garbage. Right.

00:26:35.980 You continue to buy in. It's easy to buy in at that point. And for people, for people as a majority,

00:26:42.840 I guess. I mean, let's look at, let's look at the states right now. South Dakota never locked down,

00:26:48.220 never had mandatory masks. And, you know, their economy in South Dakota particularly is booming

00:26:55.600 and they're doing well. And Florida is fairly open. Texas is opening up now. And another state,

00:27:02.980 I can't remember what the, what the third one is. South Dakota. Sorry? South Dakota. South Dakota was

00:27:11.680 already open. They never did lock. They never, their Senator came on and said they've never had

00:27:17.480 mandatory masks, et cetera. And they're, they're thriving. So you got to look at the stats. You

00:27:22.120 got to look at the numbers and, and stop making up the numbers, you know, again, go back to March and

00:27:26.980 we, you know, we all, it didn't smell right. You know, we thought, okay, there's a buyer, maybe it's

00:27:31.540 like Ebola, maybe it's the Spanish flu. Maybe, you know, maybe this is something bad that we have to

00:27:36.200 take precautions. Okay. So we all, we all thought let's take some precautions, but then we quickly

00:27:41.280 realized that wasn't the case. 99.6 or 99.7. So many, pick either number, it doesn't matter. Survival

00:27:49.540 rate on, on the coronavirus or the Wuhan flu. So it just doesn't justify what we've done. And I don't

00:27:58.580 know how they can continue to, to go down this road when the numbers aren't justifying it.

00:28:04.080 Now, last thing I wanted to ask you about, um, and, uh, this is, I think not something that's

00:28:10.880 generally on the Glen Carrot beat, you're pro small business, pro energy, but you're also pro

00:28:15.360 freedom. So I thought I would ask you about this. Um, I've been covering the case very closely of

00:28:20.100 Pastor James Coates. He has just clocked over his two weeks in custody at the maximum security

00:28:28.360 remand center for his crime, refusing to limit his congregation to 15% of fire code capacity.

00:28:35.300 And for Pastor James, he said, basically, and I'm paraphrasing here, I'm not turning away 85%

00:28:40.700 of my congregation because the government told me to do that. I don't answer to Jason Kenney. I answer

00:28:45.100 to God. Um, I know you're a conservative, I'm a conservative, I'm more of a nonpartisan

00:28:50.920 conservative, and I think you're the same way. Um, but for me to see Jason Kenney crack down on

00:28:57.080 religious freedom after that has been so central to what I know Jason Kenney in the past to be

00:29:04.800 someone who is an advocate for religious freedom in China and Saudi Arabia and, you know, in Northern

00:29:11.360 Iraq, it's so shocking to me to see him cracking down on religious freedom in the name of a virus

00:29:20.680 here in Alberta. I just wanted to get your opinion on this. Sure. Yeah. It's, uh, you know, hypocritical

00:29:27.260 again is, is obvious to me is the word of 2020. And first of all, again, go back to March when we

00:29:34.160 weren't sure back last year, March, again, we weren't sure what was going on that it, you know,

00:29:39.160 we needed to be cautious. So, okay, we'll take some precautions. Now, now we know. So Pastor Coates

00:29:46.020 wants to have his congregation, his church open, uh, to full capacity. Now you have the freedom of

00:29:52.240 choice to go or stay home. You have the freedom of choice to wear your mask or not. That that's the

00:29:58.300 way I see things is, is you, if you don't feel that, that you want to walk into a church that's full of

00:30:03.860 capacity, then please stay home. And, and again, in March, maybe we are, and, and I might've felt a

00:30:10.460 little differently in March or I didn't, but some people might've felt back in March that, that they

00:30:15.940 were concerned, but you need, but it doesn't add up now. We got to stop thinking that what happened,

00:30:21.160 what we were thinking in last March is the same as this March, because the numbers just don't

00:30:25.600 justify what's going on. So again, stay home. And we gotta, we gotta have the freedom of choice to be

00:30:31.300 able to, to, to do those things, to either go to church or not go to church, go to a business that,

00:30:38.100 that, uh, is fully open or not fully open. You know, if you're worried and you have a compromised

00:30:44.300 immune system, or you have people in your family that are elderly, that are, that are, uh, prone to,

00:30:50.820 to catching a virus and it, and it might cause death, then, then you have that choice. So again,

00:30:57.000 going back to your original question about freedom of choice, yes, we have to have that, that choice.

00:31:02.400 For me, it's just appalling to see sex offenders because they're technically nonviolent in some

00:31:08.940 instances being released from the remand, a place that's had two coronavirus outbreaks while at the

00:31:14.300 same time we're sticking a pastor in there. Um, and he's never had an outbreak at his church.

00:31:20.440 I, it's just, I mean, the, the irony and hypocrisy is insane.

00:31:25.100 Well, he's trying to, to me, it's, they're trying to make an example of a person that's,

00:31:28.840 that stood up and, and to, to try and send a message that, that we're, uh, holier than thou

00:31:35.380 and we can make all these decisions. Same as the, you know, the whistle stop, they put them in court,

00:31:40.220 uh, right away. Meanwhile, uh, assaulters and, and sexual offenders, et cetera, are, are being

00:31:47.140 released and, or their court dates are, are being postponed, uh, whatever. But, but it's

00:31:52.560 that important that we've got to get these people to make a, make a statement in, into

00:31:56.960 court immediately. It's, it, it just doesn't make sense to me.

00:32:01.780 Yep. I, and you know what, I remember last March when I was like, well, maybe, you know,

00:32:07.020 maybe I guess we're going to just going to have to wear masks because I didn't trust China.

00:32:11.420 I didn't trust what China was saying. And you were the person who talked sense to me. You said,

00:32:15.500 Sheila, no. And I better not see a mask on that pretty face. And I, I'll never forget that you

00:32:20.340 were like the one person who was like, you know what? No, there's more going on here. And maybe

00:32:24.760 China's lying. Maybe China's not lying, but you're not putting a mask on it. I'm really grateful.

00:32:30.880 Um, and it's true how your opinions can change in a year as, uh, you learn more and you see more

00:32:37.080 and things start to not add up. Uh, Glenn, you are running for mayor. I want to give you a chance

00:32:43.600 to let people know how they can find you. I know you have these little, um, online coffee sessions

00:32:50.580 that you do that I think are pretty interesting. So how can people see what you're up to in your

00:32:55.140 mayoral, uh, campaign and how can they support the work that you're doing?

00:32:59.140 Yeah. So we've, uh, you know, Hayley Wiles helping me out. Uh, she's going to be putting together a

00:33:03.840 website and, um, I'm on, you know, we've got a Facebook page, of course, uh, there will be the

00:33:10.260 website. We've developed, uh, a campaign team, uh, of supporters in Innisfail. We've got, uh, once

00:33:17.000 things, once the weather gets a little nicer, we're going to have some outdoor barbecues, et cetera.

00:33:23.020 And, and I continue to reach out to the people in, in Innisfail, go to the businesses. You can always

00:33:29.000 phone me at, uh, at my, uh, cell phone is always available. You can email me at, uh,

00:33:35.620 glenncarrett, uh, gmail.com. Uh, I'm always available to, to listen and, and open to, uh,

00:33:42.620 open conversation. Glenn, thanks so much for taking the time to talk to me today. I know that, um,

00:33:47.860 this is a work day for you. Um, like it's a work day for me. So I appreciate you taking the time out

00:33:53.040 of the day to, uh, update us on everything that's going on in central Alberta. And in general,

00:33:58.360 the fight for just freedom and normalcy in Alberta. So thanks again.

00:34:03.720 Thank you. Thanks, Sheila. Have a great day.

00:34:16.140 I think we need more politicians out there like Glenn, people who are willing to end up on the

00:34:21.940 wrong side of the mainstream media or their political colleagues to do what they think is right.

00:34:28.360 for the people they represent, the people who voted for them. And I think that's why Glenn's

00:34:34.000 running for mayor and they generally don't endorse politicians, but I definitely hope my friend Glenn

00:34:39.400 wins because Innisfail deserves better. But I also hope Glenn, Glenn wins because I think he'll inspire

00:34:46.060 other politicians to do the same, to ignore the mean girls in the media party and worry about the

00:34:51.860 people who went into a polling booth and cast a ballot for them. Well, everybody, that's the show for

00:34:57.720 tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here. Well, maybe not here,

00:35:03.040 maybe at my home studio or wherever I might be at the same time next week. And remember,

00:35:08.860 don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - March 04, 2021

Alberta keeps moving the lockdown goalposts： United We Roll founder Glen Carritt

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