Rebel News Podcast - February 21, 2020


Alberta men remove an illegal railroad blockade — and the media goes nuts


Episode Stats

Length

40 minutes

Words per Minute

159.38216

Word Count

6,401

Sentence Count

522

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

19


Summary

A few Alberta men remove an illegal railroad blockade that the RCMP wouldn t, and the media goes nuts. It's February 20th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I take you through some of the blockades in Canada, shutting down our
00:00:05.680 economy, laying off literally thousands of railway workers. And I show you, well, a handful of
00:00:12.520 Alberta boys who said, you know what? Nah, let's clear off a blockade ourselves. A couple of
00:00:18.100 Alberta mums who put some blockaders in their place. It's great, great, great footage. We'll
00:00:23.500 have that for you in a moment. Before I get to that, let me invite you to subscribe to the
00:00:28.780 video version of this podcast. Go to premium.rebelnews.com. You got to see these
00:00:34.540 videos. You got to see these wonderful Alberta guys taking care of business in a way that the
00:00:40.920 RCMP wouldn't. All right, here's the show.
00:00:58.780 Tonight, a handful of Alberta men remove an illegal railroad blockade that the RCMP wouldn't.
00:01:05.400 And the media goes nuts. It's February 20th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:12.180 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:15.940 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:20.020 The only thing I have to say to the government, the wire publisher, is because it's my bloody
00:01:24.900 right to do so. There are a lot of illegal blockades in Canada. They claim to be aboriginal.
00:01:36.340 They claim to be in solidarity with a small aboriginal community in northern BC called
00:01:40.620 the Wet'suwet'en. They claim those Wet'suwet'en Indian bands don't want a pipeline called Coastal
00:01:46.620 Gas Link to be built. But that's a lie from the beginning, and it remains a lie no matter
00:01:51.580 how many times Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster repeats it. In fact, all 20 of the Wet'suwet'en
00:01:58.160 bands along the route support the pipeline, not 18 out of 20 or 19 out of 20. 20 out of 20.
00:02:07.180 In fact, many of those Wet'suwet'en members, including band elders, filed affidavits with
00:02:12.820 the court asking for an injunction against a handful of criminals who were blocking pipeline
00:02:19.720 construction. Let me say that again. The Wet'suwet'en Indians themselves asked the court to kick
00:02:25.720 out the lying criminal losers, most of whom weren't even aboriginal or even from BC, and
00:02:30.140 the court agreed, granting yet another injunction. That was over Christmas. Here's a few actual
00:02:35.440 Wet'suwet'en Indians calling out the impersonators. I showed you this before, but I want to show
00:02:41.020 it to you again, and I'll probably show it to you again in the future, since you will not
00:02:44.680 see this on the CBC.
00:02:45.680 I'm just a regular guy. I want to work like this project is going to have, what, 10,000
00:02:51.680 employees. Now, if we interrupt one little part of it, it's going to erupt the whole line.
00:02:58.680 And that's a lot of, you know, 10,000 people is a lot of families and businesses that are
00:03:05.680 going to be affected.
00:03:06.680 And so people don't believe how crazy this can get. And so these organizers of this really
00:03:13.680 slick, well-funded campaign, they know exactly what they're doing. So when they're going
00:03:18.680 to tell the rest of Canada, you know, oh my God, look at all the RSMP, you know, all this
00:03:24.680 violence over the RSMP, that's not happening.
00:03:29.680 That's not happening.
00:03:30.680 It'll bring a lot of jobs for people down the road for our community that want to work. And
00:03:42.680 there's a conflict between some certain people that don't even have an idea where our trap
00:03:49.680 lines and who owns the territory and which area, thinking that they know it all and they're
00:03:53.680 stepping in saying, they don't even know diddly squat about our territory. And then meanwhile,
00:03:58.680 they're putting on roadblocks and so forth. And that's uncalled for.
00:04:02.680 I like that Vernon Mitchell guy. I like that guy a lot. He speaks honestly, he speaks the
00:04:09.680 truth about these guys who know, quote, diddly squat about him, which is why you won't see
00:04:13.680 him on the CBC, but you'll see the fake masked protesters on TV. That makes me mad. I like
00:04:19.680 that Vernon Mitchell. Anyways, as you know, we sent our own reporter, Kian Bextie, up there.
00:04:25.680 It was so cold. You could see it was like minus 30 that day, minus 40. We sent him up there
00:04:30.680 to the original pipeline blockade about a month ago. And we managed to identify a few of the
00:04:35.680 protesters who were actually blocking. Look at that guy. Look at that guy. He's not Indian.
00:04:41.680 He's not even from British Columbia. They were professional protesters brought in from
00:04:46.680 Ontario. He ain't Indian. He's about as Indian as me. But you see, that's contrary to the
00:04:52.680 official narrative in Canada, at least according to Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster, and frankly,
00:04:56.680 most of the rest of the media party. Aboriginals have to read from a certain script. They have
00:05:00.680 to be victims or they have to be revolutionaries or something. The idea that some Aboriginal people
00:05:04.680 can simply be prosperous and successful and happy in their own lives without government
00:05:10.680 to save them from evil corporations. In fact, perhaps saved by corporations like the pipeline
00:05:16.680 companies or oil sands that actually give them great, well-paying jobs. That's beyond the
00:05:20.680 imagination of the media party. But the small imaginations of the media party are helped by
00:05:25.680 actors, Hollywood-style actors, people faking it, impersonators, funded by the Tides Foundation,
00:05:31.680 for example. Even though 20 out of 20 would to attain bans to support the pipeline, there's a
00:05:36.680 fake Indian group, the Wet'suwet'en Treaty Office Society. It's actually a corporation. It has
00:05:42.680 Wet'suwet'en in its name, but you can see it gets its financing from Tides to muddy the waters to
00:05:49.680 pretend to be official. I think some media party journalists know this, but they pretend not to
00:05:54.680 know it. Again, it's the official narrative. Well, all the Tides Foundation funded groups have decided
00:05:59.680 that this coastal gas link pipeline is the battle. This is the one. I remind you, the coastal gas link
00:06:05.680 pipeline is the name tells you. It's not an oil pipeline. It's a natural gas pipeline, which
00:06:10.680 doesn't spill. I mean, it could leak a bit, I guess, at which point you'd turn off the valve and close the
00:06:16.680 pipeline and fix it. It doesn't spill. It's safe. I don't want to scare anybody watching at home,
00:06:20.680 but most Canadians have a natural gas pipeline into your own house. Do you have a gas stove? Do
00:06:27.680 you have a gas water heater? Do you have a gas furnace? That's all this is, natural gas. Very clean
00:06:32.680 burning, as you know, if you have a gas stove top. That's clean. It doesn't leave your kitchen full
00:06:37.680 of soot. So natural gas is a weird thing to fight against, especially when all the local
00:06:43.680 Indian bands want it because they'll get all the good jobs building this pipeline right in their
00:06:48.680 community. But it's a test run for the real fight, blocking the expansion of the Trans Mountain
00:06:53.680 pipeline. That pipeline has been quietly and safely pumping away for the better part of a century.
00:06:58.680 Actually, here's some footage of it being built so long ago that it's in black and white.
00:07:05.680 It was quite an engineering achievement way back when. I think the strategy is to try to stop
00:07:10.680 this coastal gas link pipeline now, which is owned by a private company and the route really doesn't go
00:07:16.680 by any protesters. And like I say, all the local Indian bands love it. So try to stop that,
00:07:21.680 the coastal gas link. And if they're successful, great, bonus. But if not, well, at least they tried
00:07:27.680 out their battle plan for the big fight to come. They've radicalized people. They've practiced their
00:07:32.680 tactics. They've seen how their enemies and their allies respond. Just like the raid on Dieppe in 1942
00:07:39.680 was a disaster. Do you remember that? The Canadians tried to land in France, but the allies learned a lot
00:07:48.680 from that disastrous raid that was applied to the main raid, the massive raid, the largest raid in
00:07:53.680 history, D-Day, Operation Overlord, on another French beach two years later. So that's what this
00:08:00.680 coastal gas link is. It's a test run. But so far it's not a disaster for them. It's working out amazing
00:08:06.680 for them. Protests across Canada, shutting down streets, shutting down Via Rail in the East. Hundreds
00:08:15.680 of layoffs at CN Rail, at Via Rail, paralyzing the country's key infrastructure. Mark Garneau, maybe the
00:08:22.680 only grown up in the Trudeau cabinet, talked about dangerous rail blockades. I showed you this clip
00:08:27.680 before, but let me refresh your memory.
00:08:29.680 I have concerns with respect to safety here. There have been instances with the railroads where
00:08:38.680 people have climbed on railway cars. That happened over the weekend. There have been instances where
00:08:48.680 an unexpected blockade was put in an area where a train was in fact operating and the railway company was
00:08:58.680 not aware of that. And that can be extremely dangerous when a train is coming along. You know
00:09:05.680 the trains in Canada are long, they're big, they're heavy, they're large, they can't stop on a dime. And
00:09:13.680 there have also been instances of tampering as well on the railways. And one that concerns me particularly
00:09:21.680 is disabling the signalization, the signaling that occurs at a road crossing. So these are
00:09:30.680 things that I would urge Canadians. We accept peaceful protests in this country and demonstrations
00:09:36.680 that are peaceful and lawful. But it is concerning if people aren't respecting the fact that they
00:09:44.680 can not only injure themselves, but they can injure other people. Tampering. That's not protest,
00:09:51.680 friends. When you tamper with railways, that's not a protest. And would you look at this? Three derailed
00:09:59.680 trains just in the last few days. February 14th, the other one was February 19th yesterday. Why isn't this
00:10:10.680 front page news? I mean, maybe it's a coincidence. Maybe it's just an accident. Three trains derailed
00:10:17.680 right when they're blockading trains, tampering trains. Maybe. But when you literally have calls
00:10:22.680 to block trains, when you have sabotage, when you're tampering with signals, when you have heavy
00:10:27.680 things placed on the rails, how could it not be investigated as eco-terrorism when they're saying
00:10:33.680 they're doing it? Well, because Justin Trudeau was on the other side of this. When Andrew Scheer,
00:10:39.680 the lame duck conservative leader, said anything mildly critical about the illegal blockades, Trudeau
00:10:44.680 canceled his participation in meetings, calling his comments unacceptable, banned him, simply banned him
00:10:51.680 from an all-party meeting. About an hour ago, I had a meeting with Mr. Singh, Mr. Blanchet, and Ms. May
00:10:59.680 to discuss how this government is working to engage in peaceful resolution of this situation.
00:11:10.680 Mr. Scheer disqualified himself from constructive discussions with his unacceptable speech earlier today.
00:11:18.680 Hmm. Of course, Andrew Scheer was not participating, was not speaking in his personal capacity,
00:11:24.680 or his private capacity, but rather as the leader of the opposition, the leader of the party who
00:11:29.680 actually won the most votes in the last election. I'm not making the Hillary Clinton complaint that
00:11:32.680 Scheer should be prime minister. I'm saying that Scheer has some legitimacy in our parliamentary system.
00:11:37.680 And when Justin Trudeau simply says his ideas are unacceptable, he's really saying that millions
00:11:41.680 of Canadians, basically the whole of Western Canada is unacceptable. But the bloc hibokois is not unacceptable.
00:11:47.680 They're part of Trudeau's new anti-oil, anti-Alberta coalition.
00:11:52.680 But back to my first point, the court ruling from British Columbia over the Christmas break.
00:11:57.680 There are countless court orders for these blockaders across the country to be cleared out.
00:12:01.680 They're court orders. To defy them is contempt of court.
00:12:04.680 There are other court orders ordering the police to enforce the first court orders.
00:12:09.680 And then there's this dusty old law called the Criminal Code of Canada, like Section 51,
00:12:15.680 the law against intimidating Parliament. Even mischief or trespass.
00:12:19.680 That covers pretty much every blockade in the country. We already have the law.
00:12:23.680 And yet the police just stand by?
00:12:27.680 Because the RCMP commissioners handpicked Trudeau gender quota higher.
00:12:31.680 She does what he tells her to do. No arrests at all. None.
00:12:36.680 So yesterday this happened. A railway blockade in Northern Alberta.
00:12:40.680 That's illegal. That's dangerous. And the RCMP literally just stood there.
00:12:47.680 So some real men in Alberta decided to do something about it. Take a look.
00:12:51.680 Workers, cleaning up the mess.
00:12:57.680 Hard-working, auto-patch workers, cleaning up the mess.
00:13:01.680 That's right.
00:13:02.680 Is this your work?
00:13:06.680 Oh, it's contingent on my country's train tracks.
00:13:11.680 Excuse me, come in, Greg.
00:13:14.680 Come in, Greg.
00:13:16.680 Sorry.
00:13:31.680 Those guys are amazing.
00:13:33.680 No violence.
00:13:34.680 No crime.
00:13:35.680 Sort of the opposite.
00:13:37.680 They were clearing off a dangerous illegal blockade from a railway line.
00:13:42.680 The RCMP weren't. Obviously the media weren't.
00:13:45.680 It was peaceful. It was amazing.
00:13:47.680 And the cowardly protestors, they knew better than to fight these beef-eating Alberta boys and Alberta girls.
00:13:54.680 We're not worried about uncertainty. We're worried about actually having a world that's livable.
00:14:00.680 You get to decide for them.
00:14:02.680 You know who gets to decide?
00:14:04.680 The scientific community.
00:14:05.680 Then you should take your masks off so everybody can see who you are.
00:14:07.680 Yeah.
00:14:08.680 Why are you here?
00:14:09.680 If you're not ashamed, take them off.
00:14:11.680 If you're not ashamed, remove your mask. I'm not ashamed.
00:14:14.680 So, the reason why we mask up is because there's a lot of people on Twitter right now threatening a great deal of violence against us.
00:14:21.680 Those two moms had more balls than the eunuch RCMP Trudeau cops standing there.
00:14:30.680 I'm sorry to say it.
00:14:31.680 Sorry to say it.
00:14:32.680 I grew up admiring the police.
00:14:33.680 It's a little bit tough to admire the police when a couple of moms have more balls than the RCMP.
00:14:38.680 I'm sorry.
00:14:39.680 It was amazing.
00:14:40.680 No need to hire a lawyer to run to the court for an injunction that would just be ignored.
00:14:45.680 Neutered cops.
00:14:46.680 Just bring in some oil patch guys in a truck, give them some work gloves, and have a couple moms to scold the masked cowards.
00:14:54.680 Apparently the hero in one of these vids who was clearing the junk, his name's Guy Simpson.
00:15:01.680 That was the only name I saw.
00:15:03.680 If anyone knows how to contact Guy Simpson, let me know.
00:15:08.680 There's a tweet I put out yesterday saying I want to send the guy a case of beer and the nation's thanks.
00:15:13.680 So if you know Guy Simpson, have him email me, Ezra at rebelnews.com.
00:15:18.680 We'll send him some beer.
00:15:19.680 And I want all the Guy Simpsons of the world to know that if they are arrested by Trudeau's police,
00:15:26.680 this is another tweet I put out yesterday.
00:15:28.680 Free lawyer.
00:15:29.680 Any nonviolent Canadian who does what Trudeau's cowardly police won't do
00:15:33.680 and dismantles these illegal blockades on roads and railways will receive a free lawyer paid for by Rebel News
00:15:38.680 if police arrest you for taking out the trash.
00:15:41.680 We will provide a civil liberties lawyer for them free of charge.
00:15:46.680 That's a promise.
00:15:48.680 And look at the front page of the National Post today.
00:15:50.680 Look at that.
00:15:52.680 Guy Simpson and his buddies.
00:15:55.680 Heroes.
00:15:56.680 And look at that.
00:15:57.680 Do you see that quote there?
00:15:58.680 Peter McKay, you see right above the picture, there's a quote from Peter McKay.
00:16:03.680 He tweeted in support of these peaceful problem solvers.
00:16:07.680 Here's his tweet.
00:16:08.680 He said, not really that dramatic.
00:16:10.680 Pretty obvious.
00:16:11.680 I mean, it's pretty obvious.
00:16:13.680 A couple of Albertans.
00:16:14.680 He said, glad to see a couple Albertans with a pickup truck can do more for our economy in an afternoon
00:16:22.680 than Justin Trudeau could in four years.
00:16:25.680 And then, and then, I kid you not, Peter McKay deleted that.
00:16:33.680 Because Andrew Coyne, the Toronto Red Tory, he just said, seriously?
00:16:40.680 Did you just, did you just, are you serious?
00:16:44.680 And he called it vigilantism.
00:16:47.680 Those Alberta boys, vigilantes.
00:16:50.680 And there was a few seconds of Twitter embarrassment for Peter McKay, so he actually deleted that tweet.
00:16:55.680 National Post still put it on the front page.
00:16:57.680 I used to be chums with Andrew Coyne back in the day.
00:16:59.680 He's not much of an outdoorsy type.
00:17:01.680 He's not really a work gloves kind of guy.
00:17:04.680 His hands are as soft as a newborn baby's bottom.
00:17:08.680 He doesn't have much time for men who do physical things like clear debris off railroad track.
00:17:14.680 So he calls them vigilantes.
00:17:17.680 Yeah, no, no.
00:17:18.680 Vigilantes would have thrown those masked thugs in the back of their truck, driven them out of sight of the media,
00:17:25.680 and given them a bit of a tune-up.
00:17:28.680 Those Alberta boys were not violent.
00:17:32.680 They weren't even verbally mean.
00:17:34.680 They just cleaned up a blockade.
00:17:37.680 That is not vigilantism.
00:17:39.680 That's a highway clean-up crew.
00:17:41.680 That's heroes.
00:17:42.680 I mean, maybe it would help Andrew Coyne if he imagined an illegal blockade outside his favorite Starbucks.
00:17:49.680 Maybe he could puzzle his way through that.
00:17:51.680 But Peter McKay literally deleted his tweet at the first puff of protest.
00:17:55.680 What a coward he is.
00:17:56.680 I'm so embarrassed.
00:17:57.680 But now look.
00:17:58.680 I see that the RCMP has negotiated with the criminals who are currently violating the court order up there in northern BC.
00:18:06.680 And they've apparently agreed to withdraw.
00:18:09.680 The police have agreed to obey the criminals.
00:18:12.680 Not to obey the 20 out of 20 Indian men who want the criminals gone, but rather the criminals themselves.
00:18:17.680 That's the state of Canada in 2020.
00:18:19.680 That's the police in 2020.
00:18:21.680 That's the courts.
00:18:22.680 That's the rule of law.
00:18:24.680 Expect more Alberta boys fixing problems with their own hands.
00:18:28.680 And yeah, unfortunately with the police now in full retreat, you might actually see some real vigilantism too.
00:18:36.680 I don't support it.
00:18:37.680 I don't want it.
00:18:38.680 But I understand it.
00:18:39.680 Remember this footage from the United Kingdom when Extinction Rebellion shut down the trains there.
00:18:44.680 Look at that.
00:18:45.680 People said, you know what?
00:18:46.680 The cops aren't helping.
00:18:47.680 We'll do this ourselves.
00:18:49.680 When the RCMP, whose actual motto is maintain the law, maintain the law, uphold the law.
00:18:55.680 When they no longer uphold the law, expect law-abiding citizens to do so.
00:19:00.680 And no, I don't expect law-abiding citizens to obey criminals or obey Trudeau either.
00:19:07.680 Stay with us for more on this with Manny Monk and McGrino.
00:19:10.680 Welcome back.
00:19:22.680 Well, I feel like I'm very much engaged in these stories.
00:19:26.680 I take them almost personally, I think, especially things that I feel like I've been shouting into the wind about for many years,
00:19:34.680 foreign meddling in Canadian environmental matters.
00:19:40.680 It's no good feeling to have been an unheeded prophet like a Cassandra as the mythological person who could see the future,
00:19:51.680 but no one would believe her if you know that story.
00:19:54.680 So I feel like I'm caught up in it.
00:19:57.680 And it's useful sometimes to get the big-picture strategic view.
00:20:02.680 You know what I mean?
00:20:03.680 Like, pull the camera back to 30,000 feet, calmly assess everything.
00:20:07.680 And one of my favorite guys who has an uncanny ability to do that,
00:20:12.680 whether we're talking about Canada-U.S. relations, intergovernmental affairs in Canada,
00:20:18.680 is a fellow who I think got his savvy both by working as a businessman, a lawyer, and a senior advisor to former Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
00:20:27.680 You know who I'm talking about, our friend Manny Montenegrino, CEO of ThinkSharp.
00:20:32.680 And he joins us now via Skype from his Ottawa office.
00:20:36.680 Manny, great to see you again.
00:20:37.680 You sent me a very interesting note the other day that pointed out, according to the Angus Reid survey,
00:20:43.680 for the first time, support for the Trans Mountain expansion pipeline is sagging.
00:20:49.680 And it's below a majority.
00:20:53.680 Give me your thoughts on that and how you tie that to the recent coastal gas link pipeline protests.
00:21:00.680 Yeah, no, I've always been saying that it is the primary interest of this Prime Minister and the government,
00:21:08.680 guided by Gerald Butts, is to stop wherever and whenever possible any type of oil or gas development.
00:21:17.680 And this is just part of it.
00:21:19.680 And if you rag the puck long enough and you keep preaching the message,
00:21:23.680 people will lose interest in all types of pipelines.
00:21:26.680 And it's working to its favor.
00:21:28.680 The blockades are a great example of it.
00:21:31.680 I mean, as of the short history, this pipeline got approval by the National Energy Board some five or six years ago.
00:21:42.680 And from that, there was 157 really strong binding conditions.
00:21:48.680 So the National Energy Board, with a robust law that we have in Canada, almost crippled the project.
00:21:54.680 But there was 157 conditions that then got appealed to the federal court, seven court federal court challenges for indigenous First Nations challenges.
00:22:04.680 And that took a while to wind through the courts.
00:22:07.680 And it finally got through the courts.
00:22:09.680 And it took so long that the prime minister bought the the the the pipeline for four point five billion dollars.
00:22:17.680 That's now estimated to be it's going to cost around twelve billion dollars.
00:22:22.680 Well, it makes sense.
00:22:23.680 Delay and cost and all.
00:22:25.680 There is no one doing any accounting.
00:22:28.680 And let me put it to you.
00:22:29.680 When the prime minister bought this pipeline in May of 2018, he had he finds out 30 days later that the pipeline was denied by the court.
00:22:39.680 And there was a simple solution that was to appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada because everything was done right.
00:22:47.680 Well, he chose not to appeal and chose to add another year and a half of delay.
00:22:52.680 And that was he's going to consult.
00:22:54.680 Well, fine.
00:22:55.680 That's a decision he's made on behalf of Canadians.
00:22:58.680 And we spent a year and a half consulting to the point that we have now all every indigenous group nation on this pipeline.
00:23:09.680 All their elected council agreed to it.
00:23:12.680 Well, we're off.
00:23:13.680 Well, we're off.
00:23:14.680 Well, we're not because some hereditary chiefs say no.
00:23:17.680 And where does the prime minister stay stand on that position?
00:23:21.680 He doesn't sit there and say, well, hold on.
00:23:23.680 This is a 10 year process.
00:23:25.680 We've done everything.
00:23:26.680 We've applied the law.
00:23:27.680 We've consulted.
00:23:28.680 We did everything that we possibly could.
00:23:31.680 We must now move on and effectively enforce the rule of law.
00:23:37.680 But he doesn't.
00:23:38.680 It's going to negotiate.
00:23:39.680 And this is very, very costly and certainly adds more uncertainty to Canada's business community.
00:23:46.680 And I do believe that it is a plan like anything that one one raccoon on the way will stop this project.
00:23:54.680 The prime minister will sit there and stop it.
00:23:57.680 So it's to me, it's part of a whole process when you look at it.
00:24:00.680 And I'm surprised that no one's looking at the totality of it.
00:24:03.680 Yeah.
00:24:04.680 Well, I mean, the main pipeline process that you referred to with all the conditions, all those things.
00:24:09.680 That's the trans mountain expansion.
00:24:11.680 That's the oil pipeline.
00:24:12.680 Right.
00:24:13.680 The protests in the last day have nominally been about the coastal gas link natural gas pipeline.
00:24:20.680 Right.
00:24:21.680 But as we showed when we sent a reporter out to the protest, they don't know what they're protesting.
00:24:26.680 They're just against oil and gas and pipelines and anything industrial.
00:24:31.680 It's so blurry in the minds of the public.
00:24:33.680 And that's why I think this whole coastal gas link protest extravaganza is a precursor.
00:24:40.680 I think it's basically the environmental extremists test drive their, you know, try out their tactics and see how the government responds on coastal gas link because their real big battle is to kill that trans mountain oil pipeline.
00:24:59.680 I think you're exactly right.
00:25:01.680 And the public is getting fatigued by this.
00:25:04.680 The public is getting stressed by this chaos and anarchy.
00:25:08.680 My question to you, Manny, is will a stressed out public seeing lawlessness and blockades and barriers and canceled trains, will they say, ah, the heck with it, give these protesters what they want?
00:25:21.680 Or will they say, the heck with this, crack down on these lawbreakers?
00:25:25.680 Which way will it break?
00:25:26.680 Well, I think, you know, I think there's a lot of confusion in Canadians.
00:25:32.680 Canadians are a very fair minded people, a very kind people.
00:25:37.680 And here, Ezra, what I don't understand is why there hasn't been a complete overlook of what's happened in the last five years or six years.
00:25:46.680 In the last few years, we had the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
00:25:51.680 And they it was a very expensive in the tens of millions of dollars.
00:25:56.680 And they came up with ninety four recommendations.
00:25:58.680 Some of them were, I would think, a way reaching recommendation.
00:26:04.680 This government, Canada, every Canadian through their government accepted all the recommendations.
00:26:11.680 That was a big leap forward.
00:26:14.680 Second of all, we had the Murdered and Missing Indigenous Women Commission.
00:26:20.680 That also cost, I think, close to one hundred million dollars a year of complete discussion, everything.
00:26:26.680 And we've accepted every finding in it.
00:26:29.680 We also have the Prime Minister apologizing for the last few hundred years to almost every First Nation.
00:26:37.680 That was done.
00:26:38.680 Yeah, he said that we committed a genocide.
00:26:41.680 A shocking statement that it has legal meaning.
00:26:46.680 It's not just saying, oh, I'm sorry we were wrong or bad, but to say we were guilty of a genocide.
00:26:52.680 That's a very specific confession to a very specific legal atrocity.
00:26:58.680 Right.
00:26:59.680 And that was one of my points.
00:27:00.680 That was a huge statement by the Prime Minister on behalf of Canadians.
00:27:05.680 So here you have these three big events.
00:27:08.680 Then we have the Supreme Court and within the government saying we have an absolute positive duty to consult every First Nation.
00:27:17.680 That's a big leap.
00:27:18.680 And then what did we do in this new government?
00:27:21.680 We created two ministers, two ministries for Indigenous Affairs.
00:27:26.680 We actually have two ministries.
00:27:28.680 That's a big move.
00:27:30.680 So here I, you know, Canadians, some Canadians, the majority, are asking, wait a minute.
00:27:39.680 We've done possibly everything we can do.
00:27:42.680 We've done these five items that I've mentioned.
00:27:45.680 We've done everything possible.
00:27:47.680 We've consulted.
00:27:48.680 You know, Ezra, delays in consulting add millions of dollars to projects.
00:27:54.680 But we've consulted.
00:27:56.680 We've got the approval.
00:27:57.680 And we now have a situation where some hereditary chiefs are against what the elected chiefs wanted.
00:28:04.680 I mean, this is beyond absurd.
00:28:06.680 I think Canada, I mean, through its governments and particularly this government, has done what it possibly can.
00:28:13.680 And I think Canadians are confused.
00:28:15.680 They're saying, well, wait a minute.
00:28:17.680 Do we have to have an agreement with every individual First Nation member?
00:28:22.680 Or can we not rely at least on the chiefs?
00:28:26.680 There are councils there.
00:28:27.680 You know, there's a dozen major organizations or major Indigenous organizations that represent Indigenous bands throughout Canada.
00:28:36.680 They are representing.
00:28:37.680 I mean, who, when does this end?
00:28:39.680 Yeah.
00:28:40.680 Well, one of the weirdest things is that the individual people with whom the RCMP and Mark Miller, the Indigenous Affairs Minister, are meeting with directly.
00:28:51.680 They didn't meet with the 20 Wet'suwet'en First Nations who approved this coastal gasoline pipeline.
00:28:58.680 They met with individual status Indians, just an ordinary guy who was stabbed in a blockade.
00:29:05.680 Right.
00:29:06.680 And in one case in Ontario, they met with a guy who was charged by the Aboriginal police themselves as an illegal drug dealer.
00:29:14.680 So I find it absurd that just literally any, I'm going to use the word thug because if you're just someone who's like a drug dealer on an Indian band and the Indian police themselves arrest you, for you to have hours of one-on-one time with the Indian minister is so shocking to me.
00:29:36.680 I find it so strange, and the only explanation is that Trudeau does not regard these lawbreakers as adverse parties.
00:29:45.680 He doesn't regard himself in a conflict with them, but rather he regards them as his street teams, his stalking horses, the people getting the result he wants.
00:29:54.680 In this case, cancelling pipelines.
00:29:56.680 I think Trudeau knows he couldn't himself cancel yet more pipelines, but if he can create a fuss in the courts or on the streets or with blockades, then he can throw up his hand and say, well, I tried, but we don't want another OCA, so guys, what can I do?
00:30:11.680 We've got to shut down the pipelines.
00:30:12.680 I think he's actually in some sort of collusion.
00:30:15.680 And I say that because so many of his senior inside staff from Gerald Butts on down worked with these anti-oil protesters for a decade.
00:30:26.680 Yeah, and you know, you may be right.
00:30:28.680 And whether it's an intentional collusion or it's just manna from heaven for Butts and for the prime ministers to stop anything related to oil and gas, whatever the results are the same.
00:30:41.680 Well, Ezra, the evidence is there.
00:30:43.680 This blockade is now two weeks.
00:30:45.680 And, you know, the finance minister was asked by Pierre Polivar a wonderful question in the committee.
00:30:51.680 What does this cost?
00:30:53.680 And the finance minister didn't even answer.
00:30:56.680 Well, you know what?
00:30:57.680 Here's what it costs.
00:30:59.680 About 12% of Canada's GDP goes by rail.
00:31:02.680 That's about 200 to 250 billion dollars.
00:31:05.680 Assume that this blockade lasts just a month.
00:31:09.680 It looks we're into the two weeks now, the third week.
00:31:12.680 But assume one month, which is about 10% of the year.
00:31:15.680 That's 25 billion dollars worth of GDP over a year.
00:31:19.680 And then if you calculate it even further, how many people are employed when you're trying to produce 25 billion dollars?
00:31:26.680 It's about 1% of Canada's population.
00:31:28.680 Now, we've heard about the layoffs at TN.
00:31:31.680 We've heard about, you know, there's a few thousand people, but there's a lot of people that are staying at home, whether they be farmers.
00:31:38.680 They're kind of self unemployed right now until this ends.
00:31:41.680 Or whether they work in the propane business or any other business that works with rail, they're not working on it.
00:31:47.680 And that's about, and I've calculated, it's about 1% of Canada's workforce that has now been put out of work.
00:31:54.680 1% of Canada's workforce is 200,000 people.
00:31:58.680 And we only had growth of about 1% in recent quarters.
00:32:04.680 That's enough to tip the entire country in a recession.
00:32:07.680 If you've got 1% of the economy being idled, and we were only growing at about 1% a year, that is literally enough to put us into a recession.
00:32:17.680 Well, it's, that's the big picture, but I'm going to, when you created the case, is the prime minister doing this intentionally?
00:32:26.680 I'm, you know, what I'm amazed about is how we seem to get up in the morning and forget everything that's happened the last couple of years.
00:32:35.680 I watched the election.
00:32:36.680 I watched what I saw, what I thought as a lawyer, and I read the obstruction of justice section of the criminal code.
00:32:44.680 And in my opinion, as well as five attorney generals in Canada, one liberal attorney general, the prime minister broke the law.
00:32:51.680 He broke the law with SNC Lavalin and with, and he stood strongly and told Canadians right through the election that, and this included the firing of attorney general,
00:33:04.680 which would have got any president impeached, but this, he stood up and he almost proudly said,
00:33:12.680 I broke the law because I was working for jobs.
00:33:18.680 I helped the corrupt, corrupt SNC Lavalin because there are 6,000 jobs.
00:33:24.680 Now we heard even the SNC CEO say, well, no jobs involved, but even if we give them benefit of the doubt,
00:33:29.680 there are maybe a few hundred jobs or a few thousand jobs that would have been lost, let's give him that.
00:33:34.680 He stood up and was prepared to break the law to do it for a few hundred jobs or a few thousand jobs,
00:33:41.680 but he's not prepared to enforce the law for about 200,000 jobs.
00:33:46.680 It just, you know, Ezra, when I look at that, you know, I, I, you know, maybe people forgot what happened a few months ago during the election.
00:33:55.680 Maybe people forgot what happened about a year ago right now, when the attorney general, the liberal attorney general said,
00:34:00.680 there is so much pressure. I see obstruction of justice. And we saw her getting fired.
00:34:05.680 Maybe we forget all that. But when I look at the totality of it, it clearly says, wait a minute, what happened to jobs?
00:34:11.680 Jobs was so important that you were prepared to break the law. Jobs were so important.
00:34:17.680 You, you know, you were prepared to do something and you didn't do it.
00:34:21.680 So it tells me that screams to me that it is his real modus operandi is to kill anything.
00:34:28.680 It particularly from the West, but anything, anything that's oil and gas, because, you know, where are these 200,000 jobs?
00:34:37.680 And, you know, that's about 30 or 40 times more than SNC-Lavalin that are being affected for the next month.
00:34:43.680 Where, where is the cry? Where is the media's protection with respect to that statement?
00:34:49.680 I tell you, Manny, it boggles my mind.
00:34:52.680 Pierre Trudeau, Justin's father, was against the oil patch, but he didn't actually want to shut it down.
00:34:58.680 He just wanted to take the money from it. The national energy program, it's, it had taxes and it, and it was clearly designed to stop the movement of capital from Quebec and Ontario to Alberta.
00:35:11.680 But I don't think Trudeau actually wanted to shut down the industry.
00:35:15.680 Like any good communist, he wanted to own the means of production.
00:35:19.680 I mean, he created Petro-Canada because he wanted to nationalize it.
00:35:24.680 That's different than shutting it down.
00:35:25.680 I'm boggled by the fact that Trudeau truly wants to block things, shut them down.
00:35:30.680 He doesn't want the means of production to be owned by the proletariat.
00:35:33.680 He doesn't want any means of production.
00:35:35.680 It's the strangest thing.
00:35:37.680 And the fact that he, yesterday, or two days ago, said he would exclude Andrew Scheer, the leader of the Conservatives, from a high-level meeting of party leaders to solve this.
00:35:52.680 What is that other than a formal or an informal coalition between the Liberals, the Bloc Québécois, and the NDP?
00:36:00.680 When he chooses the Bloc and the NDP and locks out the representative for the West and Conservatives, I think we're in troubled times.
00:36:10.680 But the media has been so neutered by the massive media bailout, these shockingly huge things are happening with very little commentary.
00:36:18.680 I don't know. I find it very depressing, Manny. Last word to you.
00:36:21.680 Yeah, that's an excellent point.
00:36:23.680 In that last election, I think the Liberals received about 32% of the vote.
00:36:30.680 The Conservatives received more.
00:36:32.680 The plurality of votes, they received close to 6.2 million votes.
00:36:36.680 To exclude the Conservatives from the discussion, who actually represent the two areas that the Liberals don't.
00:36:43.680 They don't have a voice out West in those two provinces.
00:36:46.680 To exclude them and to have the Bloc.
00:36:49.680 And with the greatest respect, the Bloc want to create mischief in Canada.
00:36:54.680 Because if there's mischief and there's seeds of dissent, whether it be Alberta's separation, this helps the Bloc on their ultimate path, which is separation.
00:37:03.680 You know, I saw a picture on the internet that was tweeted by the minister.
00:37:09.680 And I saw that the Bloc, the leader of the Bloc party was sitting at the right hand side of Justin Trudeau in his meeting with the rest of the people that are disinterested in the West and disinterested in oil and gas.
00:37:24.680 It just tells me it was very sad.
00:37:27.680 If you want to solve, like, you know, when I had problems and I wanted to solve things, I didn't have people in the room that said the same thing as me.
00:37:34.680 I had people that had different ideas.
00:37:36.680 And the different idea, the majority of people through the different idea is through the Conservative Party.
00:37:42.680 And not to have that person in the room, not to have the leader.
00:37:46.680 You know, Andrew Scheer of the Conservative Party in that room tells me that you want one outcome alone, and that is to keep killing oil and gas.
00:37:54.680 Yeah. I find this very sad.
00:37:56.680 This is a battle that I have, in my own way, been talking about for decades since I published the book Ethical Oil.
00:38:02.680 Yes.
00:38:03.680 Very sad to say that our side is losing, but at least we will document it more honestly, perhaps, than some of the state-run or state-rented media.
00:38:13.680 Manny, it's always great to catch up with you.
00:38:15.680 Thank you very much for your time today.
00:38:16.680 Great. Thank you.
00:38:17.680 No problem. Thank you.
00:38:18.680 Great to see you again.
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00:38:46.680 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:38:56.680 Hey, what do you think of those Alberta boys?
00:38:58.680 I spoke to Sheila Gunn-Reed a couple hours ago, and she's off to meet a couple of these guys.
00:39:04.680 I haven't been able to locate Guy Simpson yet, but we found a few other guys who were part of that cleanup crew.
00:39:10.680 So Sheila's going out with some cases of beer for them and to talk to them.
00:39:14.680 We'll have that probably tomorrow.
00:39:16.680 She's just arranging with those guys.
00:39:18.680 Some of them are working guys, so they're not able to talk to Sheila until after work.
00:39:22.680 Unlike those paid protesters, these guys actually have to do stuff.
00:39:26.680 So we'll have more for you on this.
00:39:28.680 I'm really proud of those guys.
00:39:30.680 They didn't rise to the bait of the insults by the blockaders.
00:39:34.680 They didn't get physical.
00:39:36.680 They just calmly, peacefully removed the trash.
00:39:38.680 What a great example for the whole country.
00:39:40.680 Peter McKay, there was a flicker of recognition in him that something good was going on.
00:39:44.680 But he knew his place when the Toronto Tories said, you be quiet now.
00:39:48.680 Vigilantism.
00:39:50.680 Is taking dangerous garbage off a railroad track vigilantism?
00:39:56.680 I don't think so.
00:39:58.680 But hey, it's Alberta.
00:40:00.680 Any chance to insult them?
00:40:02.680 Folks, that's our show for today.
00:40:04.680 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night.
00:40:07.680 And keep fighting for freedom.