America’s second-largest media company pressures YouTube into silencing thousands of independent content creators
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Vox vs. Steven Crowder: Who's going to win? Carlos Maza, an activist journalist at Vox, or Steven Croweder, a conservative comedian? Today's episode of the Ezra LeVance Show is a mashup of two contrasting viewpoints.
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Hello, my Rebels. Today I talk about the case of Carlos Maza, an activist journalist at Vox,
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versus Steven Crowder, a conservative comedian. Who's going to win? Well, you know the answer to
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that. Hey, before I go, do me a favor. Go to the rebel.media slash shows and become a premium
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been demonetized to a large degree on YouTube too. So if it weren't for people buying those $8 a month
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premium subscriptions, I don't think we'd be around. So please consider doing that. I appreciate it if
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you would. All right, here's today's podcast. You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.
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Tonight, America's second largest media company pressures YouTube into silencing thousands of
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independent content creators. It's June 7th, and this is The Ezra LeVance Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody
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Have you ever heard of Vox, the media company? It's painfully liberal, and it really has this
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social justice warrior affectation. It really feels like it's written not just by millennials,
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but by really irritating, know-nothing millennials who just Google things an hour before they write
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about it, and ta-da, they call themselves experts. It's really cringy, and they have this shtick.
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They say they do explanatory journalism. They say things like the monetary system explained,
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the United Nations explained, but of course they're not experts in any way. They should really be called
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things we learned in the last hour that seem important to us on Google.
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My favorite example of all time about Vox was this one, written by some know-nothing,
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titled, 11 Crucial Facts to Understand the Israel-Gaza Crisis. I mean, you just know that it's like a
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college newspaper-level facts, right, with that headline. Now, I just showed you what that story
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looks like now, but look at the bottom. There's a correction there. It says,
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An earlier version of this post suggested there was a bridge connecting Gaza and the West Bank.
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Various plans to do this have been floated, but the bridge was never actually built.
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Yeah, that would have been one of the world's largest bridges, and I'm not sure why you would
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need a bridge, because it's not over a sea or a chasm. Here's what the original article wrote.
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Remember, these are crucial facts. You need to understand things. This is the explanatory
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journalism website. Of course, the author has obviously never been to Israel. You would
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immediately know that no such bridge exists. Here's what he wrote. Someone took a screenshot
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of it before they corrected it. This was the number one crucial fact you needed to know. Let me quote.
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As you can see on the above map, Gaza is separate from the other major Palestinian population center,
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the big green blob to the east of Israel, the West Bank. They're connected only by a bridge
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that Israel limits traffic on. Yeah, no. Just no. No, no, that's not how it is. You know,
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back in the 1990s when I was in college, I sold encyclopedias as a summer job, the Encyclopedia
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Britannica. And back then, there were other encyclopedias. This was before the internet was
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a real thing. But the one thing Britannica said was that each of its articles were written by the
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world's expert in that subject. So for example, Nobel Prize winner in economics, Milton Friedman,
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wrote the encyclopedia entry about economics. Carl Sagan wrote about space. Even Albert Einstein
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wrote an article for the Encyclopedia Britannica. They had 4,000 different experts. As in, they didn't
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just have a bunch of know-nothing college kids who read up on something the night before.
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It truly was a compendium of the world's best knowledge supplanted now only by the internet. But
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you can still find experts on the internet, of course, now more than ever, really.
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Or you can go to Vox, which has 20-something sitting in cubicles in Brooklyn, becoming a half-hour
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expert in something before explaining it to you. Here are those cubicles. I'm serious. This is where
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all that brilliance happens. They're actually on strike today. I guess these world-class experts want
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more than 15 bucks an hour or whatever it takes these days to write that.
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There's a magic bridge from Gaza to Jerusalem or whatever. So that's Vox.
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But what they lack in knowledge or wisdom or understanding or experience, they make up for
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in partisanship and politics. The spirit of the encyclopedia was academic debate, the scientific
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method. You know what the scientific method is, right? You start with a hypothesis or a theory,
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something you think might be true, but you're not so certain of it. So you test it. You do a test.
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You do an experiment. You control other variables. You check one thing. You see the results. You adjust
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your hypothesis. You do it over again. You're constantly learning. Empirical facts. You love
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criticism because it'll improve your knowledge. So yeah, Vox is the opposite.
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They really hate people with different opinions. Let me give you an example. They hired this fellow,
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Carlos Maza, who goes by the Twitter nickname Gay Wonk. A wonk, I don't know if you know that word.
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It's someone who claims they really love public policy. So Zach Beauchamp, who wrote the Gaza Bridge
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story, he'd call himself a policy wonk. It's basically what a non-expert calls himself to pretend
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they're an expert. I mean, Milton Friedman didn't have to call himself a policy wonk because he
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was a PhD and a Nobel Prize winner in economics. Carlos Maza calls himself a policy wonk because
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he really doesn't know anything about anything. But he calls himself gay wonk because he wants you
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to know he's gay. Because, well, why actually? Does it go to his expertise on things like bridges?
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If you're gay, do you have special knowledge about Gaza or anything? No, the opposite. Actually,
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it's the opposite of wisdom and the search for truth. It's a reversion to tribalism, at least how
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he's using it there. He's using it as an identity marker, as a trump card. Milton Friedman might have
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said, as an economist, I believe that. Carlos Maza says, as a gay man, I believe that something.
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It doesn't lend more authority, does it? It's playing the sexual orientation card, like
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a race card or a gender card. As a black man, I believe. As a Jew, I believe. It's not really
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a source of authority. It's anti-intellectual. Here's an example. Let me know if you see any
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argumentation here or just lots of virtue signaling and identity politics. Take a look at this.
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Search YouTube for videos about immigration and eventually you'll find this.
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Mass immigration is not the rainbows and unicorns that our politicians portrayed as. It is in fact
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a tragedy. Search for videos about Islam and you'll find stuff like this.
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By its very nature, Islam is an intolerant, radical, extremist belief system.
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Search for feminism and yeah. Newsflash, everybody hates feminism.
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These videos are all products of what New York Times Magazine calls the YouTube Right. A growing
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collection of right-wing vloggers, media operations, conspiracy theorists, and activists who built
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sizable followings on YouTube. They warn about mass immigration, decry political correctness, and mock
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out-of-control social justice warriors. Why am I on camera for this?
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Yeah, he's sort of an over-the-top central casting effete gay man. It's his thing. Now, some people,
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their thing is they're really smart. For Carlos Maza, his ethnicity and his sexuality
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are his thing that he makes into a thing. That's who he is. He tells you that. He tells you that in
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his nickname. And that's fine. Look, you be you. But that's not intellectual. That's not actually
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explaining anything, is it? That's politics. Again, no problem. I mean, for people who want to know
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the gay point of view on the non-existent bridge to Gaza, knock yourself out. I put it to you,
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there's more than one gay point of view. There is no such thing as a gay point of view on a bridge.
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But Carlos Maza, even though he attacks his enemies relentlessly, not just his enemies in that YouTube
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video I just showed you. But on Twitter, look at this. He says, milkshake them all. Humiliate
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them at every turn. Make them dread public organizing. Wow. By milkshake them, of course,
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he means to assault his political enemies, conservatives, by throwing things at the
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milkshakes or whatever. In the UK, they throw bricks and bottles down too. Like I said,
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Carlos Maza's strong suit is not debating or convincing people. It's being really pleased
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with who he is from an ethnic and sexual identity point of view, and being absolutely malicious,
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literally cheering violence against people who have a different identity than him. Identity.
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Not a lot of explaining here. Not a lot of intellectualism. Other than his one explanation,
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he's a gay wonk, and that's what he's going to do to you if you don't agree. He'll cheer for
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your milkshaking. There's a slightly interesting Democratic presidential candidate, by the way,
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who's gay as well. His name is Pete Buttigieg, who is going to go on a TV show to be interviewed
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by a classical liberal named Dave Rubin, who is actually gay also, as it turns out. And Maza
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put his Twitter mob to work to stop that. So I guess he's a gay wonk, but he doesn't like gays who
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don't share his opinion. Pete Buttigieg wanted to meet with Dave Rubin. But here's what Maza said.
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He said, absolutely madness, this debating, interviewing thing. I mean, Rubin is an enemy, obviously.
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Maza doesn't need to be good at debating, you see, because if he can personally or financially
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destroy his enemies, that's great. De-platforming works, he says. Look at that. De-platforming works,
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and we should use it way more aggressively. He was tweeting news that Milo Yiannopoulos is in debt
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because of being banned from many platforms. Milo's gay too, by the way.
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I don't think gay wonk is even an accurate name because he hates gays who have a different opinion.
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So Maza is not exactly a liberal, is he? He isn't someone who loves knowledge. I don't think he should
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be working for a place that claims they explain things. That's not really his thing. He doesn't
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believe in having to explain to conservatives how they're wrong. He didn't try to explain to Dave
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Rubin or Milo why they're wrong. He believes in silencing them aggressively, either through banning
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them like Milo or through milkshaking them or otherwise humiliating them. That's his word.
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That's the real giveaway, I think. He wants people to be dehumanized.
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To lose their mind, really to lose their place in society, to make them unpersoned, calling for
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someone to be humiliated. Well, Maza is so insufferable. I mean, he plays this effete explainer
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on TV. Oh, it's just me. But he's actually rather butch, isn't he? He believes in milkshaking
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people and deplatforming them and humiliating them. He's not a gentle man. I think he's very
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inauthentic that way. He's not liberal and he's not nice. And he's not even a wonk. He's a bully.
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I think he's a bit of a fascist. And he decided to take aim at a leading conservative political
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comedian, Steven Crowder. I think he's funny. He's a comedian first and a political commentator
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second. That's actually how he started off in life at the Just for Laughs Festival in Montreal.
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I think he's in the mold of Bill Maher or Jon Stewart. I think Crowder's funnier. Lots of
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costumes. Lots of jokes. I mean, obviously, you're not going to laugh at everything he does,
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but I think he's funny. And obviously, Crowder started making fun of Maza, which is what comedians
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do. And of course, if you don't like it, ignore it. Block it on social media. I don't know.
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Heckle back. Make a video back. You work for Vox. Whatever. I mean, Maza broadcast a video smearing
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his enemies list online. I showed you that. But he didn't want to take any return fire because
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they were being mean to him. But hey, if you condition out, you can take it. But Maza didn't
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want to take it. You heard the man. He believes in deplatforming his enemies, not convincing them.
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And so he started a bit of a pout online. He says, so I have a pretty thick skin when it comes to
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online harassment. But something has really been bothering me. Yeah, brother, you don't have a
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thick skin. He said, since I started working at Vox, Steven Crowder has been making video after video
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debunking strikethrough. That's Maza's videos. Every single video has included repeated overt
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attacks on my sexual orientation and ethnicity. Here's a sample and take a look.
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Before we get to the video, uh, with our favorite, favorite lispy strike from Vox. It's ridiculous?
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It's bonkers? You're being given a free pass as a crappy writer because you're gay. That's
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center line on his little queer graph there. What is that line? Well, now the graph is queer?
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Violence, filth. Okay, so the little queer can eat his chips all nonchalantly. It's code for rape,
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Mr. Queer Eating Chips on the Vox channel. Chip, chip, chip, chip, but you can't eat just one. Like dicks.
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This is what Mr. Gay Vox wants to do. Mr. Lispy Queer from Vox. What were you holding,
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gay Latino from Vox? Even his hand movement in fast motion is gay. Now we're here with a short-haired
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angry lesbian on Skype. Cable news, gable news bitching, two gay guys sitting there eating a
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banana. We get the symbolism there. Truth is hiding in a closet two weeks later, probably along to his
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next pride parade outfit. This guy on the gay semi-Latino Vox. Oh, okay, so you really are just an angry little
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queer. All right, can't deal with this sprite anymore. Okay, he just sashays across without it.
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Like just, oh, the gay Vox sprite is wrong. Now he could be a dranny, your honor. How many lispy,
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angry sprites Vox sashay across your screen and try and tell you otherwise. Or you, by the way,
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the gay Mexican guy. The gay Latino v-neck. Gay Mexican. Mexican gay guy used to work. Mexican gay
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Latino there at Vox. Gay Latino from Vox. The token Vox gay atheist sprite with surprisingly,
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surprisingly flaccid chest considering how thin he is. It is very bizarre to me. Ad hominem? Yes,
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but it was an addendum to fat. Now I should tell you, speaking in that affectation,
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that's not a speech impediment, obviously. And that's not something that gay people do by reasons
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of biology or sexuality. It's not an accent, like being born in Boston or Alabama. It's a speak
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affectation. It's a thing done on purpose, like how valley girls talk. It's like Catherine McKenna.
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It's a thing. Like calling yourself gay wonk. You're leading with it. You want people to know it.
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You can't very well use it as your shtick. Call yourself gay wonk, have that affectation,
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and then object because a comedian who you yourself have attacked is now mocking you in return.
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Or you can object to it, but grow up. Dish it out, take it. Well, that's not how it works at Vox.
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And so he went on this endless Twitter pout rant that every leftist in America retweeted.
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Now, Crowder is funny, I think. If you don't think he's funny, that's fine. But 3.8 million
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people have subscribed to his YouTube channel. That's triple the size of our YouTube channel.
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And he gets tons of views. And he's also on a paywall channel called Blaze TV with Glenn Beck.
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So he's a pretty big deal. He's not as big as Tucker Carlson on Fox News, but he's pretty big on the internet.
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So lots of leftists were retweeting and liking Carlos Mazza because they hate Steve Crowder.
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And YouTube, well, at first, they held the line. The company replied to Mazza directly and publicly.
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Thanks again for taking the time to share all of this information with us. We take allegations of
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harassment very seriously. We know this is important and impacts a lot of people.
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Our teams spent the last few days conducting an in-depth review of the videos flagged to us.
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And while we found language that was clearly hurtful, the videos as posted don't violate our policies.
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We've included more info below to explain this decision. As an open platform, it's crucial for us to allow
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everyone, from creators to journalists to late-night TV hosts, to express their opinions within the scope of our policies.
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Opinions can be deeply offensive, but if they don't violate our policies, they'll remain on our site.
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Even if a video remains on our site, it doesn't mean we endorse or support that viewpoint.
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There are other aspects of the channel that we're still evaluating. We'll be in touch with any further update.
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So that's what they wrote back to Mazza on June 4th. Pretty free speechy to me.
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And look at this. Stephen Crowder celebrated. He said,
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Team YouTube made the right decision. If they banned us, they'd have to ban.
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And then you see he linked to this video of other political comedians saying very rude things,
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including about the sexuality of someone they were attacking. Take a look.
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You're the presidents, but you're turning into a real prick-tator.
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Sir, you attract more skinheads than free Rogaine. You have more people marching against you than
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cancer. You talk like a sign language gorilla who got hit in the head. In fact, the only thing your
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mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin's holster. You know, Ivanka, that's a beautiful
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photo of you and your child. But let me just say, one mother to another, do something about your
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dad's immigration practices, you feckless . And obviously, I hope India and Pakistan don't
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go to war. But if they did go to war, it would probably be the most entertaining war of all time.
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Yeah? Because the Indian soldiers would run out on the battlefield and they'd be like,
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Sometime at night, calm alone, look up in the sky and say, what the hell going on up there?
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Do UFO live on another planet, phoning home like E.T.?
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Calm alone, read on TV about white people getting deducted by aliens, sticking all kind of hell up
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Yeah, so that's a free speech victory, eh? I gotta tell you, I was skeptical, I have to say. I
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really couldn't believe that YouTube was standing up for free speech.
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Well, I guess the wall of anger was ratcheted up in the face of YouTube's four explanations. And I
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I wonder if there were some moves behind the scenes. I wonder if Barack Obama made a phone
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call or Hillary Clinton made a phone call to YouTube's owners, Google. Remember,
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Google is a 100% Democrat company. They fired the one guy who was conservative. Their senior
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executives are all Democrats. Their executive vice president, Eric Schmidt,
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offered to build Hillary Clinton's campaign website. Do you remember the senior staff meeting
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at Google the week Trump won? Here's a little bit of that. This is videos
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As we started to see the direction of the voting, I reached out to someone close to me who was at
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the Javits Center where the big celebration was supposed to occur in New York City. Somebody had
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been working on the campaign. And I just sent him a note and said, you know, are you okay?
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It looks like it's going the wrong way. And I got back a very sad short text that read,
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people are leaving. Staff is crying. We're going to lose.
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Yeah, that's Google. The most telling was this woman, a senior Google executive,
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practically crying, saying the Hillary Clinton campaign was we. She spoke in the first person
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plural, as in it wasn't Hillary or they or them. It was as if Google and Hillary were the same thing.
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Do you remember this? That was the first moment I really felt like we were going to lose. And it was
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this massive like kick in the gut that we were going to lose. And it was really painful.
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So maybe, I don't know, we'll never know. Maybe Obama or Hillary Clinton or someone made a phone
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call to those Democrats at Google who own YouTube and made them think again and said, what are you
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doing standing with Steven Crowder? He's a Republican and Vox is Democrat. Because the very next day,
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after they wrote their defense of free speech, they thought again and they wrote this.
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Update on our continued review. We have suspended this channel's monetization. We came to this
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decision because a pattern of egregious actions has harmed the broader community and is against
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our YouTube partner program policies. Oh, really? Wow. That was quick. Egregious, eh? Because earlier
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they said they had teams, plural, reviewing things. So they sounded like they went through exhaustively.
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And voila, and one day later they said, no, no, no, no, we're shocked. Shocked. A day ago
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they weren't shocked, but now they're shocked. Was it really egregious though? Was it, was it a little
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bit like, was it like this? Weirdly shaped Dick's Jew face? Oh, sorry. No, no, no. That's not Steven Crowder.
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That's Carlos Maza himself. See, it's different when he's the racist one, or I don't even know if
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that was a sexual orientation attack. I really don't know what that means. So Steven Crowder's
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website was in fact demonetized. That's the word that means YouTube has shut off his ability to make
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any money off it. They just canceled his ability to put ads on it. I'm guessing that's half a million
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bucks a year, at least enough to pay for a significant staff. And it's just gone because
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Carlos Maza's feelings were hurt by a conservative comedian. Even if it was offensive humor, it's humor.
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And now, oh, by the way, thousands of other YouTube pages were immediately, simultaneously
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swept up in this Night of the Long Knives. I don't know exactly what they did or how they did it.
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Maybe they just deleted anyone's monetization if they had keywords like right wing or whatever,
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because thousands of other independent YouTube sites were demonetized all at the same time
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because someone at Vox had a temper tantrum because their affected way of speaking was mocked by a
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comedian. And that's how our story ends, except not quite because Carlos Maza, I mean,
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he's a nobody. Or is he? He's not quite a nobody, is he? Look at this. Until Donald Trump was elected,
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Maza worked for a Democratic Party war room called Media Matters. It was a privately funded
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anti-Republican, anti-Conservative Democrat super PAC. Here's a list of 313 stories Maza wrote
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for this Democrat super PAC. They weren't journalism. They were attacks, partisan attacks,
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from a campaign war room. And you'll notice the date there. As soon as the campaign ended,
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as soon as Trump became president, Maza left the Media Matters super PAC to work for Vox,
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but doing the same thing. Just calling himself a journalist now, but still pretending to be just
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folks. I'm just folks. I'm a grassroots social justice actor. It's just me, gay wonk, and I'm so
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friendly. Yeah, but no. See, Vox, they're owned by a company called Comcast.
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Here's their website. How big is Comcast? They own NBC. They own cell phone companies,
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cable companies, movie companies, internet companies. Around the world, actually, their
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market capitalization, that's what the stock market says they're worth. I checked, it's $185
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billion as of today. Nearly 200,000 employees around the world. They are one of the largest media
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companies in the world. So Carlos Maza isn't just some cute, awkward social justice warrior who's a
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little shy and a little goofy, and his feelings were hurt. My feelings were hurt. No, they weren't,
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buddy. He's brutal. Of course he's brutal. He told us that. He believes in humiliating people.
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He believes in deplatforming people. He has weird insults about Jews, as leftists often do.
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But the whole thing is actually an act. It's a role he's playing. He's not just some guy.
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He's a Democratic Party operative from Media Matters who led the ad boycotts against Rush Limbaugh and
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against Fox News. And now they're going for Steven Crowder, but not just for ideological reasons.
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It's more serious now. It's for business reasons. Now, like I say, Vox is owned by Comcast. Comcast is
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a competitor to whom? To thousands and thousands and thousands of independent citizen entertainers,
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citizen journalists, citizen comedians, citizen reporters, citizen commentators around the world
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who are all eating Comcast's lunch. Comcast does very well. Don't worry about them. They made $12
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billion profit last year. But they're not stupid. The internet killed the VCR business. The internet
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killed the CD business. The internet is killing TV stations. Comcast is not going to stand by and let
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the internet kill them. So they'll kill it first. So don't see Carlos Maza as just an ideological bully
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and a bigot who enjoys humiliating people. See him as a tool of one of the largest media companies in
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the world using a fake social justice warrior to flatten thousands, literally thousands of YouTube
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competitors. Just wipe them out. And that's what you just saw. I'm guessing we here at the Rebel won't
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be far behind on their enemies list. Stay with us for more.
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Well, isn't this special? The annual hate fest known as Al-Quds Day is off and running in Toronto
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yet again, even though the city of Toronto said it wasn't going to tolerate hate speech on its property.
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Indeed, folks, last month a series of motions were approved by council in conjunction with the
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Toronto Police. If protesters occupy city property without a permit, the city will issue
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trespass warnings and seek reimbursement for policing costs. Well, guess what? This group does not have
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a permit and this group is most certainly not paying the cost of policing. Hey, welcome to the
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diversity is our strength city of Toronto. That was the Al-Quds protest. Al-Quds is a made-up
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holiday created by the dictator of Iran about 40 years ago, the Ayatollah Khomeini. It's basically an
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officially anti-Semitic, anti-Western holiday. So, of course, there's lots of enthusiasts for it.
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I think almost 2,000 people showed up in Toronto and our own fearless David Menzies went there to
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record it. David, good to see you. I have heard different reports, but it sounds like there were
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a lot of people there. Do you know what? Actually, Ezra, I think, judging by last year, I think it was
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half the amount of Al-Quds people. Yeah, I really do. I mean, maybe that was a logistical matter in
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that they could not assemble at Queen's Park as they have done in previous years. But I saw it
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noticeably smaller than what I saw last year. And I think that's a good thing. Yeah, that is a good
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thing. Now, of course, Mayor John Tory, the weakest, wobbliest mayor in Canada, and that's, I mean,
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it's a very low bar. He said, well, we're not going to have this anti-Semitic group with these hate
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messages without a permit. We're going to charge them for security. None of that happened. They
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didn't have a permit. They weren't charged with security. And in fact, police focused on you and
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the Jewish counterproductions. Yeah, no, Ezra, it's not a matter of Mayor Tory saying, we're not going to
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have this, you know, just saying it as a rhetorical statement. This was passed by council last month.
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You cannot go on to city property without a permit if you're going to do what they define to be hate
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speech. I think this meets the benchmark, by the way. And furthermore, if you do, guess what? You're
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going to be fined. And if the police have to come in en masse with the paddy wagon and what have you,
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the mounted unit, you're going to get the bill. Well, nobody was fined. I will be shocked. I will be
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gobsmacked if anybody receives a bill. And we're talking tens of thousands, if not six figures in
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police costs for sure. And thirdly, to add insult to injury, Ezra, at one point they decide, you know
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what, we're just going to leave the U.S. consulate, march up university across Dundas, down Queen.
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These are all major thoroughfares, which ended up in traffic chaos. And they got a police escort to
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do so. We'll take a quick look at that. Here, take a look. I'm asking him if he has a permit.
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What are you, what are you doing bashing me with your bicycle? Are you kidding me?
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How come they, this is amazing. They don't have a permit and you're escorting them.
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This is against the law, sir. How do I make a citizen's arrest?
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That, that is amazing. I mean, they shouldn't be shutting down an entire street. And they are.
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And the cops are turning on us, the messenger. You know?
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Well, I guess this is a very sad day in Toronto's history. They're completely
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Now, David, I got to tell you, I don't like the idea of politicians banning peaceful political
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rallies, even for odious points of view, like these guys have. The left would probably call
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my point of view odious. Yeah. But if you, but I know for a fact that some of the crazy
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anti-Semitism here, if it were being done by white supremacist alt-right, which is the media
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is obsessed with, there's a handful of white supremacists in the entire country, most of whom
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are just undercover cops with honey traps for these folks.
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It's not a real thing. You saw the real thing there. I want to show you one guy who, like,
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again, the media would go ape if they saw these kind of anti-Semitic crazy talk. That one guy
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calling for the execution of gays, if that was a Christian pastor saying that he'd be in prison,
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but he's Muslim, so it's fine. But check out that same guy who was calling for the execution
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of gays. Listen to him mock our immigration laws. This is from your interview with him.
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They executed according to Islamic law. Islam doesn't endorse gayism. Islam doesn't endorse
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homosexuality. Okay, so would you like to see Sharia law in Canada replace Canadian law?
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At some point it will. You know, because we have families, we are making babies. You're not.
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Your population is going down the slump, right? By 2016, Muslims will be the biggest religious
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group the world over. What are you going to do then?
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Actually, you're going to go post-Sharia even then?
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I saw that. He was laughing. Ha ha. I was supposed to swear a loyalty oath to your country and queen.
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Ha ha, suckers. I didn't. And that's on you. Like, he's mocking the system.
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I don't know if it's a lawful requirement to actually swear that citizenship oath. I think it is.
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And he just said in public, I didn't, and you guys are suckers.
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But you want to know something, Ezra? I think he is merely ahead of the curve. I think in our lifetime,
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in the interests of diversity and cultural sensitivity and political correctness and
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not offending those from other cultures, et cetera, I can see this oath being done away
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You know what? In some small way, I give that guy some credit because at least he was intellectually
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honest. How many people would have sworn that oath and lied about it? He actually
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seemed to hold that his oath was meaningful, so he withheld it.
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And, you know, Ezra, what scares me about that? I mean, you know, throughout the Islamic world,
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and I don't say this with any relish or any glee, but there is a high illiteracy rate.
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And I think when you have a large contingency of people who are not educated, these are
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perfect stooges to, you know, get radicalized. This individual, the more we talked, I got to
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learn about him. He's a U of T graduate in the sciences.
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I don't know his name. And he claims he went to U of T, of course. He has children.
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The question I wish, I'm kicking myself in hindsight that I didn't ask him, Ezra, is
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that he believes that Sharia law is inevitable. He thinks Sharia law is a good thing because
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infidels such as gays will be executed. I think the question to have asked him, and
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I think this could have been a really chilling answer one way or the other, is that you have
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children, if one of your kids came out as being gay, would your unconditional love as
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a father eclipse Sharia, Quranic law, or nope, the law is the law and you have to go to the
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Well, I think he would say we would just un-gay him or something. Like he had a funny phrase
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there about he's against gayism, which I didn't know was a thing.
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And of course, Al-Quds, as you said, is a creature born out of Iran. And remember when
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Mr. I Need a Dinner Jacket was doing that U.S. university tour some almost 10 years ago,
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and he said to incredible laughter, oh, there are no gay people in Iran.
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Well, he's right, because they stoned them to death. So they're not there very long.
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I want to show you to me what was the most upsetting part of it. And it was the police
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getting mad, not at these protesters who were violating a city bylaw, but at you. And some
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Jewish reporters, some Jewish counter protesters. Let's take a look at that.
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Why is the city turning a blind eye? That's a question that we're asking. You know, a few
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minutes ago, the police drove all the pro-Israel protesters, literally herded us like cattle
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with their bicycles, all the way across to the other side, under the guise of safety.
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Safety would be had if they wouldn't have this happening anyways. It's illegal.
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Shouldn't be happening. It's hate speech. If they wouldn't let this happen, they wouldn't
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It looks like a gentleman with a flag of Israel is being pressured by a police officer to,
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I don't know, put a burqa over it, because he might be inciting these fine intellectuals
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I live here, sir. I was born in Canada, and you don't have a permit.
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What are you doing bashing me with your bicycle? Are you kidding me?
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Now, you told me that that cop was actually bumping you with his bike tire.
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Unfortunately, because it was, you know, below my waist, the camera didn't capture that.
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Look, it's not as though I'm battered and bruised.
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But that is, you know, the definition of an assault.
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I mean, when you see one of the ringleaders, he said, you're harassing me.
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And he called over the cops and they came running.
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And by the way, I do not want to sound like I'm bashing the cops.
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They're often in a horrible situation in trying to keep the peace and uphold the law is wrong.
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I think they send some of the same cops to cover these Al-Quds and, you know, Palestine House demonstrations.
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And I think, Ezra, a bit of Stockholm Syndrome sets in.
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They become kind of on a friendly basis with these very odious people.
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Another is my working theory, which is it's just easier to move you out of the way than a thousand screaming jihadist sympathizers.
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There's one David Menzies and there's 100, 200, 500 people who are talking about killing gays.
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Who's easier from a practical point of view to shove over?
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If he would have bumped them with his bicycle tire, he could have a ride on his hands.
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First of all, Ezra, if he says, sir, could you please, you know, I would do that.
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I'm not trying to make their jobs even more difficult than it is.
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But I'm getting a little sick and tired of if you ask them insensitive questions, you're going to cause a riot.
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If you wave the flag of the Star of David, you are going to cause a riot.
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Look, these acts, these legal acts, as provocative as they may be to some people,
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shouldn't be the reason to say don't do it because the bullies will act like a child having a temper tantrum.
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The onus is on them to be conditioned by the law, Ezra.
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See, David, I have my own personal dystopian time machine.
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Whenever I travel to the United Kingdom, I see five years into our own dark future.
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So I can assure you that this will get much worse and that in the future, police will proactively keep you out.
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Police themselves will escort rioters, as they did to some of Tommy Robinson's events.
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I have seen it with my eyes in the United Kingdom.
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And I guess part of our job here is just to document it.
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Oh, and I can tell you, Jessica, again, whose last name I still cannot pronounce properly, so I will not draw.
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And the one moment that sticks in my mind about her coverage, Ezra,
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was when she as a journalist went over to interview the protesters of Tommy Robinson.
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And that dummy of a policewoman says, oh, no, you got to go back with your people, your people.
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And then says the ludicrous thing, which was a technical impossibility of shouting her questions 100 meters,
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you know, knowing that we're not going to get any audio that way.
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This is the next step with police being emboldened as thought police, if you will.
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You said that you respect most police officers in Canada.
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I think it's 80 or 90 percent of police officers in Canada are still real cops.
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And it's mainly the brass and some political officers who are on specialty beats that are bad.
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In my dystopian time machine of the future in the UK, I believe that it's probably about 50-50 now.
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And the police have been so inculcated with Islamophilia.
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And, you know, I have seen with my own eyes people being asked to take down the union flag, the union jacket.
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That's normal in the UK to be asked to take down the flag of St. George, across St. George with the English flag.
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I'm not going to argue with you, Ezra, because you've made a profound case to support your point.
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And you even forgot an incredible profound example, which you covered when you were over there a few years ago.
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The fellow at the convenience store who had the say no to terrorism sign.
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And I mean, can you imagine like what's the alternative that, you know, that that a pro-terrorism sign?
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The police literally told him to take down a say no to terrorism sign.
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I was meeting with someone and the police sent a spy truck by.
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To video cameras to spy on me, meeting with the family.
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A big truck pulled up to where I was just talking to a family.
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And it went with the cameras to feel who's this person meeting with the right family and spying on people, spying, creeping on people's Facebook.
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The city of London itself met police there, police there have 900 police on the Facebook beat.
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You know, the worst thing I can say, Ezra, is that the only thing George Orwell got wrong was the chronology.
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You know, he said 1984, which was the reverse of 1948 when it was written.
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But it was, you know, it's the 2000 teens, this coming to fruition in the UK.
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But I hope you're wrong about a five year timeline for this garbage to come to our dominion.
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It wasn't actually a police problem in Toronto last weekend.
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If anything, they're on the side of the protesters and against you.
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And so the police take their direction from the court of public opinion, the journalists, and the court of public law, the court of law.
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The politicians, the prosecutors, the police are taking their steer from politicians.
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Where was the state appointed stenographers at the CBC?
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This was walking distance away from their headquarters.
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And it reminds me when the hijab hoax protest was going on and they were marching down legally with a permit, University Avenue, a couple of years ago or a year and a half ago.
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And I'll never forget it, Ezra, there was a CBC news van that came along because there was one lane of traffic open.
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Blatant what the bias is in terms of the political correct narrative on diversity.
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What do you think about someone calling himself Gay Wonk being mad when someone mocks him and being so mad that he whips up a Twitter mob that gets YouTube to de-platform thousands, literally thousands,
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I mean, if you want swearing, if you want humiliation, if you want offensiveness, listen to Bill Maher's show.
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I mean, he offends me all the time, but I find it entertaining.
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And he's actually fairly articulate on issues sometimes.
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Jon Stewart's Saturday Night Live isn't even watchable.
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But why is it that only conservative comedians aren't allowed to be outrageous?
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I think of our own friend Gavin McInnes and Stephen Crowder.
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I think that's exactly why they go for the comedians.
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Because if you're laughing at someone, if you're laughing at a Hillary Clinton or a Barack Obama,
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they lose power over you and you start a great revolution.
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I think that's why the left believes in censorship.
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I'll be back on Monday, of course, over the weekend.
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Please enjoy all our other Rebel YouTube videos.
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So until then, on behalf of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
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good night and keep fighting for freedom while you still can.