Rebel News Podcast - ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Ben Bankas： How to Fix Canadian Comedy

00:00:00.000 welcome to another episode of andrew says i don't know what number this is but ben banks is here

00:00:10.880 he's back how are you young benjamin you don't know what number episode this is 60 something i

00:00:15.500 think would it be 69 for you maybe we can delay it to be 69 we just make this episode 69 and then

00:00:21.900 if it's episode 66 you'll just do i'll work backwards 68 and then you'll skip 69 we'll see

00:00:28.260 what we can do i think it's possible i'm not sure what i'm not sure anybody else will laugh except

00:00:33.160 what's going on rebel media viewers rebel news it's been a while ben um you took a big trip to

00:00:40.920 texas to do some open mics i guess um a couple podcasts here and there i saw i watched you on

00:00:48.060 kill tony um how was it compared to canada i'm sure everybody's asking you that but the restrictions

00:00:54.080 are leaving now we finally have a mask mandate ending date uh so just tell everybody what it

00:00:59.320 was like being free for a while while everybody else wasn't uh it was amazing i tell everybody

00:01:06.640 that like how was austin i'm like it was amazing i mean you didn't have to wear a mask people are

00:01:12.700 like in texas people like austin it's so it's such a liberal city but compared to canada it's like

00:01:18.560 you know the the most conservative well whatever we think is conservative now which is of course

00:01:25.660 just the idea that you don't want to wear a mask that means you're conservative even if you want to

00:01:29.240 like give money to like children that's charities you could be like you give to charities and and and

00:01:35.520 be like a philanthropist and if you walk into your condo building without a mask on people will just

00:01:39.380 assume that you are um an alt-right maniac well you are uh maybe you should move a bit closer here

00:01:46.820 so when you're down there what me to look at you i don't want to look at you well you don't have to

00:01:51.800 look at you on the screen that's fine that's fine you look very cool like a pilot almost a pilot from

00:01:57.360 like 1993 who got it never works out when i try to be the funny one so i'll stop sounds like you're

00:02:03.860 coming on to me a bit but that's okay you look like a pilot a pilot you look like i feel like i'm

00:02:09.940 watching top gun which still hasn't come out by the way the new one there's a new top gun yeah he filmed

00:02:15.180 it like a couple years ago what's it about just uh giving ukrainians old planes trying to train

00:02:21.080 random farmers to fly fighter jets i think he fly migs i think he flies in one of those jets that can

00:02:26.980 go hypersonic into space like into the ionosphere or whatever it is but tom cruise actually flew jets

00:02:33.520 in this one well okay well i'll finish telling you about austin okay because we could get into all

00:02:39.080 kinds of tom ukrainian bulgarian the war in bulgaria is it in bulgaria no um yeah austin's a

00:02:47.600 great place to go uh it's not as big as toronto i don't think i think it has its disadvantages like

00:02:54.580 people you know want you to just be like it's a the best thing ever like it does have its disadvantages

00:02:58.820 toronto has a better transit system toronto has more options to for food more uh it's i think toronto

00:03:07.740 is actually almost cheaper in some ways uh when you consider how many people are moving to austin but

00:03:13.760 yeah it's living in a place that doesn't have restrictions feels normal and people are going

00:03:19.560 to realize that once i already see it on people's faces they're walking around with their mask off

00:03:23.980 and they're wow everybody's out and we're just walking along bloor street or we're walking along

00:03:29.260 young street wow and it's like yeah that's why you were insane and depressed for the last two years

00:03:34.160 because you didn't have that um it's important to live a normal life it's important to not be worried

00:03:41.300 it's not that you know wearing a mask is whatever it's just the idea that you're constantly in fear

00:03:47.020 of if i don't put my mask on somebody's going to say something because that's 90 of people who wear

00:03:50.940 the mask are wearing it because they don't want to get in trouble they don't want somebody to

00:03:55.220 be annoying towards them they're not wearing it because they're like oh my god i care so much

00:04:00.140 about my neighbor and i care about you know i'm really worried about what could happen if i don't

00:04:04.980 wear my no it's just because like i don't want to get in a confrontation at the lcbo so i gotta have

00:04:09.240 it on david manz he's no stranger to that i don't know if you've been watching lcbo's

00:04:14.480 okay because it's green screen david manz he's loves excursions to the lcbo leave that in don't cut

00:04:24.320 that out okay that's fine we'll leave the water bottle in for for what reason i don't know

00:04:29.700 no foto puzzles um did you get a lot of those typical questions oh what's it like being

00:04:36.460 canadian oh do you love justin trudeau what's the number one thing somebody from texas is asking a

00:04:41.300 canadian uh mostly people be like where are you from and be like canada be like oh sorry about that

00:04:46.180 they like felt bad for me yeah honestly that's what if that's literally what it was they're like oh

00:04:51.780 yikes so i saw you on uh kill tony one of my nobody cares about canada people are like what was

00:04:58.940 nobody's like what's canada like they were just like oh you have legal weed that's great we also

00:05:03.840 have that in certain states but not here something i was thinking about was well first of all the guy

00:05:10.360 you brought down there with you what was his name the guy you did the special needs guy i'll say

00:05:15.780 you did skits with and he was jared nathan jared nathan i didn't uh bring him down no you didn't

00:05:21.380 well i mean i so when i did the park shows if people don't know anything about me which you

00:05:27.740 probably don't um i the reason i'm sitting here is because i did something illegal and uh i i did

00:05:35.880 comedy shows in parks when we had our most intense lockdowns in 2020 and um yeah we had thousands of

00:05:44.800 people come out to the park shows whatever so i put jared jared i knew for a long time jared nathan

00:05:48.840 um and he did the park shows and that's where he met jason rouse who's a canadian comic long time

00:05:56.660 comic he's been on just for laughs he's done all the festivals he's toured the world doing comedy

00:06:01.120 now lives in austin hangs out with tony hinchcliffe and and brian redband and um yeah so jared met him

00:06:09.700 at those park shows and jason brought me actually last year down to texas and then this year he brought

00:06:15.540 down um jared nathan and jared killed it jared did a week uh the first time it was going to be only for

00:06:23.540 a week but then he he got on kill tony his first time the same night i got on actually except he got

00:06:29.120 to go on 12 times after that um because you know they were just like this guy is um awesome you know

00:06:36.560 he's you know his deal he's got a stutter um and uh some potential special needs but he's also uh you

00:06:44.620 know just a hilarious dude um so he really impressed everybody down there and he had a

00:06:49.720 great time and uh yeah i think he i think he's still there the first time he raised money on a

00:06:55.320 gofundme he raised like 10 grand and then trudeau took it yeah trudeau took his gofundme because he

00:07:02.180 wore didn't wear a mask no uh he got the money it was a legitimate gofundme and so he stayed an

00:07:09.420 extra week and now he's staying there a month i stayed there for four months i mean it's expensive

00:07:15.180 you know what i mean i went with my girlfriend and uh you know she doesn't want to stay in uh

00:07:21.380 you know like a room in some guy's house so it's not exactly cheap when you think about and i've

00:07:29.160 been thinking about this a lot lately when you think about doing work down there or potentially

00:07:33.160 moving there in the future to do work do you think it's better to go down to someplace like that

00:07:38.360 and be part of something and try to you know whether it's building it up with a group of people

00:07:43.400 other comics or doing something on your own do you think it's better to go down there and do that

00:07:47.840 or do you think it is almost better to try to stay around here and like be the guy because you have

00:07:54.260 that potential i think if if you're here to be the guy whereas if you go back down to texas permanently

00:08:00.980 then there's this whole other scene where you're like you've got the tony hinchcliffs and the rogans

00:08:07.400 and all these people who are into the stratosphere almost now would you rather almost be here and

00:08:12.920 and you know be the guy well i think there's an opportunity to be the guy uh in both places i think

00:08:20.240 even both places at once i mean if you know if you can freely move between the two places there's no

00:08:25.060 reason that you know it's not that expensive of a flight uh i mean the pcr obviously but i think

00:08:31.440 they're going to be getting rid of that soon um so and it's not that long of a flight to go down to

00:08:37.480 austin uh or most of the states for that matter so you know i think there's a potential to be the guy

00:08:44.160 in austin too um obviously i'm not going to be rogan or i'm not going to be uh tony hinchcliff those

00:08:49.460 are established names but um you know working with tony or you know working with rogan is a

00:08:57.040 possibility there and you know that can kind of establish you as like the guy on like a lower

00:09:03.080 level than them like obviously you're not that the guy but um you're the guy that's also still doing

00:09:09.640 other people's shows because you know tony and rogan they're probably not going to come out and do

00:09:13.720 some show for 30 bucks but if you're opening for rogan you might come and do that show so there's

00:09:20.580 still that potential to be the guy and and as far as toronto the problem here is that we don't have

00:09:26.980 any tourism right now and i think a lot of comedy really uh you know benefits from tourism and and the

00:09:35.460 you know people coming to the city for a night they go to a show they have fun and then they leave

00:09:43.020 right right now we just basically you can only pull locals to come to shows or like people are

00:09:49.060 driving like i've had a couple people drive like two hours actually to come to my shows which is

00:09:53.520 awesome thank you for doing that but you see what i'm saying like we don't have like in new york city

00:09:58.920 or or in austin this constant flow of tourists being like what do we do tonight what do we do tonight

00:10:04.780 going on event event bright type websites and finding comedy shows and like people are packing them out

00:10:11.860 there and they're charging like you know people who don't have huge followings but are good at

00:10:17.780 stand-up are charging 30 bucks uh for showcase shows where it's like seven or eight comics doing

00:10:24.520 10 minutes each um charging 30 bucks us for that and that's why if you want to come see me you know

00:10:30.960 it's i'm charging 30 bucks canadian which is only like 23 us when you think about it so people will be

00:10:37.640 like it's 30 bucks i know that like the dollar's crashing my hair looks weird for a second um my

00:10:43.960 girlfriend's gonna watch this and be like you didn't do your hair properly you didn't shave your

00:10:47.760 beard um you wore your jacket insert you wore my jacket insert no this isn't a jacket insert it's like

00:10:54.800 uh it's supposed to look like it is i don't know it's from two years ago i don't know what's in style

00:10:58.920 anymore i'm gonna go to dufferin mall after this and uh get kicked out go to go to champs without a

00:11:04.800 mask on and learn about style again no but anyway uh comedy in toronto is hard to sell uh in the same

00:11:14.900 way that you can do it in a town where people want to come to all the time and now if toronto becomes

00:11:19.700 open more and we start having tourists again because i remember when i started comedy in toronto a lot of

00:11:26.260 my shows were doing stand-up for people who had hostels and like or there was just people from you

00:11:32.500 know all over the place from australia from europe you know spain spain from mexico and then there's

00:11:39.120 all the exchange students that would come here i don't think that's happening right now just with

00:11:43.600 you know with with everything that's happened in the last while so to answer your question i think you

00:11:50.600 can become the guy in both places but toronto is is not as easy to do because in toronto like the

00:12:00.100 equivalent of getting on rogan it's like i guess like maybe like this like or like doing ezra's

00:12:05.240 show like i don't know who has the biggest podcast in canada my friend jack denmo has a big podcast

00:12:11.180 he's got like a million subscribers on youtube he's he does videos kind of like nelt boys where he

00:12:17.440 you know goes up to girls and i don't know he says something funny and they do something and or

00:12:24.040 whatever you know we don't have a rogan we don't have anybody and and if you want to get on cbc

00:12:30.260 um you obviously have to adhere to some sort of rules which you know i kind of thought about it and

00:12:37.540 i was like why if okay the cbc knows i exist you know they know that i'm funny they know i have a

00:12:44.180 following i had to gain it back because instagram literally deleted it but they could you know they

00:12:52.560 could be like hey do you want to do something but maybe you have to you know not say this or not

00:12:58.220 say that or you know and maybe i could have that decision do i want to work with them or do i not

00:13:03.040 but i don't think it doesn't work like that you literally have to virtue signal your way into it

00:13:08.280 it's not like you can be talented enough that they'd be like hey i know you said some stuff

00:13:11.880 you know like if it was norm or something you know like canada missed out on a lot of uh has

00:13:19.620 missed out on a lot of talent because they just went we can't have him on he's too much and then

00:13:25.000 they just go to the states and become famous so yeah there really isn't a thing here there really

00:13:30.420 isn't like a giant podcast here and i would hope to definitely not this one oh you're gonna make me

00:13:38.740 swear on my own show i usually reserve my cursing for other hair looks incredible though thank you

00:13:43.000 my girlfriend told me i look like a cart 3d animation the way my hair is uh right now um

00:13:49.740 you look like a hockey coach in the gthl or something just yelling at kids um asking for

00:13:56.420 vaccine passports uh the the other thing i wanted to ask you about is trudeau obviously in the news a

00:14:02.780 lot the last like let's say three four months for his trucker convoy stuff um he'll never get out of

00:14:09.340 style for blackface um and then of course the previous election behind that and now we're still

00:14:15.520 behind in the western world in terms of all lockdowns hawaii is the only other one in there

00:14:19.700 lifting everything uh before us in terms of restrictions how much of your content do you

00:14:28.080 want to continue to be political or do you just want does it matter do you want to just go back to

00:14:32.380 being a comedian like you were before all this happened or do you see like your trudeau stuff i think

00:14:38.460 the doug ford one is the best stuff you do politically of all of them do you want to keep

00:14:43.340 doing that forever because that would be a thing that you would think that one of these shows would

00:14:47.400 want you to do for them it's a good question uh hawaii what about hawaii they just lifted their mask

00:14:55.720 mandate before us oh i see and they were the last state to do so the last state okay i see okay um

00:15:03.700 what was the last part of the question again um this would like doing all the political comedy

00:15:10.840 would be a way to get on one of these shows um well yes and no i mean i grew up with political

00:15:17.600 comedy i grew up watching you know this is going to sound whatever but i grew up watching colbert

00:15:24.220 rapport i grew up watching the daily show um you know when i was a kid it was on after south park i think

00:15:30.360 or like before south park or something like that it was on comedy central it was kind of uncensored

00:15:35.720 compared to now and it was basically making fun of the government's lies at the time about iraq and

00:15:44.320 the iraq war and like all kinds of stuff that was going on completely you know what we have now is

00:15:51.060 like this similar thing but like on the other end of the spectrum right um so and i was making political

00:15:58.860 jokes like before the pandemic you know i was i was doing bits about the wet sueton protesters and

00:16:07.500 how it was all like white people doing it and then there was also like teachers protesting at the same

00:16:12.280 time and it was like are the teachers anyway so i was doing bits about anything that i think that is

00:16:17.240 people are thinking and talking about i think is worth joking about now am i i think specifically

00:16:24.240 maybe the question would be like are you going to continue doing covid bits or like uh stuff about

00:16:29.620 the pandemic eventually no like as it gets older i mean i'm still doing jokes about kobe's death

00:16:35.740 so i mean but i'm trying to get rid of like i i've been working like it takes a long time to work on

00:16:40.780 stand-up jokes takes a year takes uh two years till it's like so good that you're like this now is

00:16:47.600 perfect to be seen by like the masses on instagram right and sometimes i'll take a chance and i'll

00:16:55.040 just be like let's just post this version of it i had a i had a video where i said that i had a joke

00:17:00.580 where i was like um especially after like what happened with joe rogan i was like well i guess

00:17:05.580 you know i guess white people still can't say the n-word you know and then the joke was well even

00:17:10.680 though we you know kind of created it or whatever and then i was like you know it's kind of cultural

00:17:15.840 appropriation whatever it's a joke and um it worked really well and there was like a guy in

00:17:20.860 the crowd who was like didn't know what to do and he was kind of he was like a black dude and we were

00:17:25.120 kind of and then he just loved it and i made fun of him anyway the video got like 500 000 views

00:17:30.020 um on instagram so i think it's like there is you know you whatever's popular like i think it got

00:17:40.060 those views because of the rogan thing but i already had that joke i don't know if that makes me

00:17:45.200 look bad or not but uh i already had that joke but at the time it's just like that the timing of

00:17:49.880 that's good right so i think it's less about how political you are and more just the timing of stuff

00:17:55.200 now and i think it's unfortunate in some ways because i feel like a lot of comics are catching

00:17:59.680 on to that and a lot of comics are becoming kind of um critics of the times but i think that that's

00:18:08.320 indicative of the times we need people to make fun of shit because it's so crazy

00:18:12.800 that if we don't then people will lose their minds if you just go on stage and you just totally

00:18:18.700 pretend like the last two years didn't happen the audience picks up on that um or if you have like

00:18:24.920 an opinion of the last two years that's very all about being safe and you know we were making sure

00:18:30.840 to be safe and it's not really funny and it's mostly just about how you are safe the audience will

00:18:35.860 hate it um so does that answer the question yeah i don't know was there a difference in

00:18:42.940 what offended audiences down there as opposed to here or vice versa were you able to be less safe

00:18:47.880 down there it's funny like i don't know the people there get i i had one guy get triggered triggered

00:18:57.040 um he was like i don't know but he had like tattoos on his face so i don't know if he was the best judge

00:19:04.400 of what the general populace he was upset because i have a joke about kobe and whatever and he he was

00:19:11.900 like don't you ever like what happened to kobe and his daughter like you should never make fun of it

00:19:16.280 and i was like whatever um but people are pretty open to laughing at things and i think the woke like

00:19:22.400 woke people in austin who think they're woke aren't woke like they'll laugh at things that are

00:19:28.120 bad and be like but they'll be like oh that's horrible like you know obviously i wouldn't say

00:19:32.100 that at work or whatever but i can laugh at it at a comedy show whereas here people are like i can't

00:19:38.420 say it at work so i won't be laughing at it at a show and i won't be enjoying myself and i won't see

00:19:44.140 through the you know no and then there's people that won't like i was just in oshawa and people had an

00:19:52.040 amazing time somebody i had a few messages people are like thank thank you so much you know i've done

00:19:57.420 i've been to so many shows that are so politically correct recently i didn't even i thought i lost

00:20:02.400 faith in comedy i was so happy that you weren't politically correct and you know so people want

00:20:09.140 it there's an appetite for it it's just becoming like you know it's like gasoline it's like that's

00:20:14.740 why i have to make it expensive more expensive to come see me than to see somebody else because

00:20:21.900 of putin that's why my shows are more expensive what's the comedic take on russia and ukraine

00:20:27.440 now what is what what are you working on for that did you put it out there have there been any

00:20:32.980 putin voiceovers why don't you you should really do this this is why this looks better what do you

00:20:39.260 want me to do here this and then this up and under pull it down is that yeah and then all right up

00:20:44.660 and under now like a regular microphone first the funniest thing to say i think was that it's fake

00:20:51.080 um that was the funniest thing you could say for like a week it was like this is fake um which is

00:20:56.740 it was the same with covid that was like the funniest thing you could say for like a few weeks at the

00:20:59.940 beginning um just in general conversation or on stage obviously it's bad i think the comedic take

00:21:08.160 is kind of uh like i said with with covid it's like you have to like ingrain it in the bit it's

00:21:15.480 like because it's part of what's happening right now you kind of have to just mention it within

00:21:22.020 whatever else is happening but i've seen a lot of comics go on stage going like russia's at war

00:21:27.740 audiences you know you got to have something like the punchline has to be that like i made fun of

00:21:34.920 there was like this big fat like ukrainian guy in the audience and i was like this guy looks like

00:21:39.320 the whole ukrainian army right now and like it was so funny because he was sitting at the front and

00:21:43.840 you if you're behind him you could just see the most ukrainian looking back and like head

00:21:49.160 so everybody laughed um it's not really making fun of the war it's just adding it in it's do you see

00:21:57.980 as much this is my take on it people have made the ukrainian bride joke a million times like that's

00:22:03.640 like well it's gonna be a lot of ukrainian mail order but it's cheap do you see as much virtue

00:22:09.180 signaling about it as i see about like supporting ukraine in what sense that this is the greatest

00:22:16.480 travesty in the world and ukraine's completely innocent uh well i mean like this is like no

00:22:23.000 country's innocent but like the people are innocent of course yeah but the people like who are getting

00:22:28.260 like injured i think are innocent or the people who are having to flee are innocent um yeah but

00:22:35.880 there's a lot of i mean the virtue signaling it's just the same with blm like people don't even they'll

00:22:39.940 put a black square up and you'll be like you know that like eight white dudes got like murdered today

00:22:44.920 by blm people in like some random city riot and they'll be like yeah well i'm gonna still keep

00:22:50.980 the blm square up you know what i mean so it doesn't matter uh people are doing what they're told this is

00:22:56.680 this is just what the you know they're told to care about it they care about it now there's a lot of

00:23:01.840 ukrainians in canada and there's a lot of russians and i'm sure a lot of them watch rebel and you know

00:23:06.700 they know for a fact that this is uh horrific and you know it's horrific for ukrainians and russians who

00:23:14.700 are in the diaspora on both sides because they want to watch russians want to watch russian tv if they

00:23:21.440 live in uh you know steals and bathurst or whatever and grandma babushka wants to watch

00:23:28.500 her regular russian tv and now it's banned right so that's not great um you know is she a threat like

00:23:36.040 is she gonna watch an rt video and be like no so like you know and then on the other side like

00:23:44.780 the ukrainians like now it's like they're worried about their family members probably

00:23:47.660 family's moving here there's all this i think one of the funny takes that i've done on it is that um

00:23:55.440 we kind of realize that canada is a racist country because nobody on either side has said like let's

00:24:03.620 not take in these ukrainians you know what i mean like whenever they're like oh there's a war in yemen

00:24:08.180 like let's take in yemeni and then like some people on one side will be like well you know some of those

00:24:14.340 guys they're kind of battle-hardened and you know they might they know how to use guns and they might

00:24:19.160 be they might be terrorists and the ukrainian refugees everybody like people on both sides

00:24:24.540 like yeah yeah yeah that's great more pierogies so i think that's a funny take that you can have

00:24:31.240 that you can have if you're allowed to i think that a lot of this stuff isn't allowed right now and

00:24:36.540 that's why there it's become another thing where i think that you're not allowed to have a

00:24:41.180 conversation about it i mean we are right here i think we're doing it and we're doing it but you're

00:24:45.860 not going to find it anywhere else in canada i think you can't name me one other not on the news

00:24:53.020 not on the news it's like yeah not on uh regular tv you can't tune in and have some they'll be like

00:24:59.660 we have a comedian in who what do you think of ukraine and i'm just like well it's fake

00:25:03.680 no they can't have that but obviously i'm joking about that but even if i said that they'd be so like

00:25:09.420 oh my god like alarm bells it's like i'm joking obviously it's not fake it's funny to say think

00:25:13.880 that it's fake and if anything that's almost a left-wing joke because i'm like making fun of

00:25:18.980 the people who said that uh the the pandemic was fake you know what i mean so i think there is i think

00:25:26.100 the ukraine thing is bringing both sides i think it's get like lessening the polarization

00:25:33.080 and whether that's done intentionally or not and you can argue all kinds of conspiracies but at the

00:25:39.200 end of i think a war with anybody right now especially a white on white war which i think

00:25:46.460 a lot of people young people are seeing for the first time they haven't seen a white on white war

00:25:52.220 they've seen you know us going into iraq us going into afghanistan going into all these

00:25:57.440 countries of people of different races and just being like you know now you have just white people

00:26:04.380 look almost identical i know some ukrainians we look nothing they look almost identical and they're

00:26:11.240 just blowing each other up so i think that it kind of makes everybody who is like covid crazy on one

00:26:17.620 side and on the other side they're like let's get rid of you know let's go back to normal i think

00:26:21.720 they're kind of coming slowly we're going to come back to um the two sides not being as polarized

00:26:30.720 you know i know in the states there's a push for why you know some people some far right people are

00:26:36.300 like we shouldn't give them any money and we shouldn't and it's like well i don't know like

00:26:40.700 i'm not a politician i just know how it's affecting me if i was getting blown up right now and maybe

00:26:46.900 that's why covid gave everybody this opportunity to really have an opinion everybody's like you're

00:26:52.660 not a doctor you're not yeah but i'm being affected by it personally you wouldn't say that to

00:26:56.980 somebody in in the ukraine who's getting bombs uh dropped on them and you're like well you're not

00:27:02.180 a general so you don't really know what's you know what i mean like and like i know that there will be

00:27:07.060 people out there being like hopefully they do over that comedian makes comparison to bombs being dropped

00:27:11.680 to having to be in covid lockdown for two years yeah well it was pretty bad people did take their own

00:27:16.180 lives so you know just because war is worse than being in lockdown for the majority of two years and

00:27:23.540 losing all your money and your business doesn't mean that that wasn't all so bad

00:27:28.540 and luckily people in ukraine didn't even really do that i don't even think they even have a lockdown

00:27:34.600 nobody wears a mask there they have like one of the lowest vaccination rates in all of europe

00:27:40.020 what are the odds we get uh a new sketch comedy show or something in canada well i think you should

00:27:47.780 start that well i'm working on some stuff oh really yeah i'm working on putting out a special

00:27:55.320 i'm working on uh putting out some more content some more filmed content but the thing is you know

00:28:04.020 it's tough if it's like okay you make a bunch of stuff on your iphone or you have a little bit more

00:28:10.300 quality i feel like if you have a little bit more quality when people come to see you there's a little

00:28:14.100 bit more you know it's not just i just watch this guy make videos on his iphone every day which is

00:28:19.240 great and you can you can get a bajillion followers from that i don't know maybe i should do that maybe

00:28:23.660 i should just be like gary v style but you know some days i wake up i'm like do you know i don't want

00:28:29.780 to force funny all you know and at the same time i'm always working on something whether it's my podcast

00:28:38.160 which you can listen to for free uh on all platforms the ben bankers podcast or you can find

00:28:43.440 at ben bankers.com whether it's my patreon bonus episodes which i give to people so that they

00:28:48.380 i can have eat food so you can pay me five dollars a month which is at patreon.com slash ben bankers

00:28:53.960 which you can go sign up right now or i'm working on uh my show my physical shows live shows or i'm

00:29:02.220 working on um doing like a silly dub video i like doing videos where my face isn't in it like i really

00:29:08.540 wish i was like became like had a cartoonist friend who could draw me i'd love to do a cartoon

00:29:13.320 um because it's so fun to do little silly voices over images and videos versus you know um having to

00:29:21.500 actually act and then you need lights and stuff you need all this stuff um which is great you know i have

00:29:28.860 some good sketches out there i think i would watch a political cartoon of all the like the world

00:29:34.580 leaders that'd be interesting i think um well the the ryan long method seems to be both a new and

00:29:42.600 workable method where like you have this online following from all these sketches and then you turn

00:29:49.620 that into i am pretty sure he was doing stand-up before his sketches got big but that's turned into

00:29:56.380 you know him being this huge name and uh his special just came out and it seems like he can

00:30:02.240 he can get a good tour going so i think there's merit in putting out all these sketches or an iphone

00:30:08.620 video or whatever we're getting together with other people and uh gaining a following that way having said

00:30:13.780 that i'm back going back to my question about whether it's better to be here or to be down there i think

00:30:21.020 there's a real opportunity here and i know i'm fathering you here a little bit to do that sort

00:30:26.160 of stuff because i don't think there's any other people doing anything like that here there's no

00:30:30.340 sketch comedy show that anybody watches there's no kids in the hall nobody watches this hour is 22

00:30:35.740 minutes there's i don't even know what the last show there is like some cvc all women sketch comedy

00:30:43.120 show the last i think i talked about that like two years ago do you remember what that was called

00:30:47.260 no but the thing is nobody i don't think anybody watches anything here um you know another problem

00:30:53.500 people just watch they go home they scroll instagram until they're cross-eyed or they watch netflix some

00:30:59.380 horrible show that they get into for because they hate their lives and or they watch this or they

00:31:07.300 watch rebel and they just you know they got they get angry and they they go why is everything so bad

00:31:12.900 or they watch and then they go watch cbc after and they go ah i hate this i hate everything

00:31:16.900 um not a lot of you know there's no not like when i grew up and i watched comedy now and it was like

00:31:23.140 and it was like comics doing stand-up for you know that were canadians they used to get some money for

00:31:32.500 it like i know it wasn't a lot it was probably like two or five grand to do that special but that's how

00:31:37.920 that's how russell peters that special went viral on youtube for him um so without that like if if he had

00:31:44.860 been doing it now he would have had to make like now youtube is so far along that it's it's not like

00:31:51.180 when russell peters went viral on youtube that was just youtube was new it was it was a new thing to

00:31:56.900 do to go viral now people are going viral every five seconds with you know i just listened to mr

00:32:02.460 beast on joe rogan and all the guy does everything's like we're giving away a thousand puppies to like

00:32:08.100 a hundred people in like 10 seconds you know it's like how what am i supposed to compete with that

00:32:12.080 like all i'm doing is giving social commentary uh on uh on what's going on i'm not you know or making

00:32:19.100 fun of my own life or talking about funny things you know i'm not and like uh anyway there is an

00:32:27.680 opportunity here for sure i am going to be starting more of that but even ryan's stuff is higher quality

00:32:34.520 like he films it edits it every week there's a there's a sketch you know he's not just doing like the

00:32:40.760 you know yeah i'm this guy now i'm this guy and then i'm this guy you can't find a cameraman

00:32:45.080 no i can't exactly um and i have a cameraman but we're working we're working on the podcast first

00:32:53.280 so we've done my new producer shout out to my new producer mike uh and he

00:32:59.200 you know produces the podcast it looks amazing

00:33:03.880 um and we're slow we're we're doing this comedy special he's starting to film my stand-up

00:33:10.280 and now we're going to start writing sketches and and and doing those sketches but this you know

00:33:15.620 it's it's a you you want to pick a week and film like two or three i think just to get ahead of

00:33:23.680 yourself and then the next week you only have to film one and then you can kind of work at that pace

00:33:28.920 i think that's a good way to really get the ball rolling and i think i'm in a good position to

00:33:32.860 really move towards that i know you call it the ryan long model it's um you know i think that it's

00:33:38.280 just it's really a lot of comics have you know andrew schultz came out with it for you know the

00:33:45.040 idea of just putting out content and then you know gaining your following to the point where then

00:33:50.600 people want to watch your stand-up and that's that's really how you have to do it now it's the

00:33:54.760 modern comedy way i know there's a lot of comics in canada that are like well if i can just get with

00:34:00.480 yuck yucks and then if i can just get and it's like yeah but you need to you know yuck yucks will

00:34:05.800 sell out for you on their brand right like they'll be like here's the sold out show you you have to go

00:34:11.680 kill now and that's what makes you can make you so good and so strong at stand-up in canada is that

00:34:16.880 people go to stand-up don't care who it is people do that in the states too but not not like

00:34:24.280 like they have the option to be like or we could go see rogan or we could go see you know jerry

00:34:29.200 seinfeld's in town or tim dillon or whatever you know like we have those those acts come through

00:34:33.800 town once in a while we haven't you know but that's not they don't live here right so

00:34:39.600 yes it's important to get it with yuck yucks and become a headliner and that's how you get really

00:34:45.900 good at stand-up but you also have to have that online you you want to get to the point where

00:34:50.020 half the people at yuck yucks got sold out right away because they're your fans or or the whole

00:34:54.980 thing's getting sold out because it's your fans if you can do that the only comics that have been

00:35:00.020 able to do that in canada sell out yucks consistently for people coming to see specifically them is really

00:35:06.380 russell peters like he's like the last person to be able to sell out uh yuck yucks across the country

00:35:14.520 based on when he had those videos going viral and people like how do we see this guy right so

00:35:19.780 it's it's part of the game it's nuanced and you have to have uh you have to become like a

00:35:26.760 phenomenon i think the teresa um tam videos kind of became a phenomenon a bit and the doug ford

00:35:33.580 videos like you said and yeah they can always come back but if if really those videos are meant to make

00:35:40.100 them like screw off and like let us live our lives they should watch those videos and be embarrassed and

00:35:46.620 be like this is funny what are we doing they shouldn't be like ah this is horrible how can

00:35:50.900 this guy make fun of us it should be like no i look like a dork this is stupid why are we uh we're

00:35:56.180 obviously upsetting people and uh if they stop bothering us then i don't think you know we can

00:36:03.660 move on to make whoever fun of whoever is pissing off pissing us off that day all right now that we're

00:36:09.100 behind the paywall ben um is this uncensored now it always was but now we can say the extra

00:36:15.060 youtube illegal things and twitter is that gender what this is uncensored now not like fully obviously

00:36:24.160 well i don't care but um uh yeah well yeah we try to keep it clean enough that it'll go on youtube

00:36:30.920 and then the only thing you can't do on twitter i think is i feel like the cbc wants like they

00:36:39.740 benefit off of play things like rebel not getting money from the government because then you have to

00:36:44.560 go out of your way to get money from people that watch and i think they use that against you to try

00:36:50.900 to sit like they try to like delegitimize being like they have to have like you know they have to

00:36:56.220 have people like donate to them it's like you guys get 600 700 million or billion or how exactly

00:37:03.160 what a patreon is we could open a patreon page and it'd be the same thing and like everybody's got

00:37:08.860 but they use it against you to be like oh well they're just you know and it's like well yeah but

00:37:13.420 you like they could be doing such cooler stuff like what's what does cbc do they get us they get

00:37:18.380 uh the the chinese guy to talk to theresa tam on a tv and then they get like four angles of it

00:37:24.300 and she's just on a tv it's like how is this in any way like good like i don't know where the

00:37:31.180 taxpayer money she's not even there how do we even know she's a real person if she's never actually in

00:37:36.100 the room the funding i think just goes to these buildings i interned at ctv news and they get

00:37:41.160 government money now ever since trudeau and the size of the building that they share with tsn is just

00:37:48.180 insane it's owned by bell like so much of their entire budget must go into just maintain this building

00:37:53.880 we can accomplish the same thing as the ctv newsroom in the back room back and when they not

00:37:58.980 allow you to build your building because something rbc something oh yeah rbc didn't let us buy won't

00:38:06.360 give us a loan for a building in calgary it was in calgary yeah even though the loan itself looked

00:38:13.600 perfect the guy said i'm paraphrasing but the guy from rbc told us for that the loan's amazing can we

00:38:19.040 give can we give you a couple more loans if you want are you guys building stuff here um

00:38:24.080 are you allowed to talk about it we can i can talk we can talk about it there's we're still trying

00:38:28.620 to like the donations for the building we're we've been still this whole time trying to get a building

00:38:33.140 people are going to look at buildings this week um wherever that may be in calgary i don't know i've

00:38:37.600 never been to calgary but as of here uh no not right now we're not building anything i don't think

00:38:42.640 unless that's a way above my head which it could be yeah no i i think that canadian the canadian

00:38:51.340 people are being starved of like good entertainment good uh funny talented people who are canadian

00:39:03.860 getting ahead i mean there's there's a guy there's this show on on amazon prime right now that's like

00:39:10.740 a bunch of canadian yeah the one with tom green and tom green and like tom green's like apparently

00:39:15.560 he's pretty good in it whatever but there's like one guy he was like a young guy his name's brandon

00:39:20.120 ash muhammad and um you know he's gay he's muslim and he got the show because of like it's not you

00:39:31.420 know he's not it's not people nobody ever watched him murder and was like oh my god this guy literally

00:39:36.280 shook the foundation of this room with how funny that was they just go well he he's funny enough

00:39:41.320 and he fits these things which is fine and you know good for him but i'm just saying that that's

00:39:46.920 depriving canada of because i think 70 of people are going to watch that or more are going to watch

00:39:54.300 that show and go this guy's here because of that and that makes the show less funny and i'm not saying

00:39:59.640 you need a white guy instead but just pick i have funny friends who are uh of all different

00:40:04.020 backgrounds racist jared nathan he's he's a he's literally a jew special needs jew i mean you know

00:40:11.460 like who else is on that colin mockery that giant woman um and it's probably okay like i mean i'm

00:40:18.860 just saying no i have amazon and i haven't watched it i'm just jealous that other people are getting

00:40:22.940 paid to do comedy but they're not actually doing it they just get to like stand around and be told

00:40:29.160 they're a comedian and not actually say anything funny well they went with people that have name

00:40:35.200 recognition but they're also the same people we've been seeing for 20 years like colin mockery god

00:40:40.180 bless him is so old tom green i don't think he wants to do anything i'm surprised he was on that

00:40:45.320 is all i ever see him do is like camping out like in an rv well it's just embarrassing that they're like

00:40:50.680 canada the funniest comedians in canada we're gonna pull uh you know washed up guys from the u.s

00:40:56.880 and uh you know colin mockery who you know just automatically gets like probably a hundred

00:41:02.240 thousand dollars a year from royalties and all the shows that he did what was it wasn't he on the

00:41:08.320 show with wayne wayne brady wayne brady is it anyway whose line is it anyway and he was funny as

00:41:15.180 hell on that show and he is funny but what are you gonna are young people gonna watch this and go

00:41:21.800 colin mockery wow i want to check out his pot does he have a podcast does he talk about anything

00:41:27.680 relevant or young that young people know and if he did it would be a censored podcast nowadays

00:41:32.560 he would be he would have to be on a certain side to be part of cbc and all that if they had somebody

00:41:38.500 like me on there who was a troublemaker who was a who was a shit disturber who made people laugh who

00:41:43.100 was younger so that the younger generation they what are when i was 15 uh i only looked up to

00:41:52.440 american comics i'm trying to think of any canadian comic you know i like norm i liked uh you know

00:41:57.420 russell peters but i wasn't there they weren't around and there was no even then there was no

00:42:02.840 canadian we had we used to have a thing on much music there was a show called video on trial right

00:42:07.660 right and that that was the big show for a lot of canadian comics to get on to make a little bit

00:42:13.300 extra money you know they do it a couple times a week they get like maybe a grand or whatever it was

00:42:18.620 and they got some exposure but none of them used that to do anything on their own they only used it to

00:42:28.860 you know like the one guy darren he became went into mtv darren jones darren jones oh god he turned

00:42:35.160 into such a he well he went i used to love him but man did he turn he went into that realm though of

00:42:42.840 guys who were like white guys who were like kind of edgy in like 2008 or two or whatever and then

00:42:49.440 they are 2010 and then when the woke movement happened they were like well good i'm glad i didn't

00:42:55.920 really do that much stand up or put any albums out because i won't get in trouble and i'll just keep

00:43:00.140 playing this character of i'm just a innocent little white man who believes everything i'm told

00:43:05.800 went right to kiss 92.5 or whatever it was right but i'm saying that anybody who did those video on

00:43:11.920 trial things basically used it to either get further within the establishment career so like deborah

00:43:18.100 giovanni and stuff like that like they'll use it to be on you know part of match game and cbc but nobody

00:43:23.840 watches these shows seriously they just know they exist they go yeah canada has some show called match

00:43:29.140 game who's watching that maybe people in seniors homes who uh you know have uh dementia and don't

00:43:34.460 know what's going on is it just nobody's watching that and being like this is this amazing even the

00:43:38.740 family feud the new family feud with uh jerry d are people watching that i haven't i haven't seen a lot

00:43:44.160 of clips about it i don't even think they filmed that much of it well is it just a case of like this

00:43:49.540 government money coming in let's circulate it to the people that we like then are dedicate and are

00:43:54.380 willing to be a soldier in our political cause yeah like obviously not overtly it's like the

00:44:01.940 hollywood model it's like the hollywood model except they have like complete control where you

00:44:08.480 know in hollywood like somebody one guy could be like hey i don't agree with this like here if you

00:44:14.080 say you don't agree or you say you support anything that's not what's happening you know like say

00:44:21.120 somebody at this hours and 22 minutes was just like stood up and was like that actually happened

00:44:25.560 i spoke to kathy jones there's an episode of kathy jones is on my podcast and she didn't really talk

00:44:30.880 about that but you know she kind of was like hey like i don't like the direction this is going in

00:44:36.840 it's not as funny as it was uh it's too woke everything's about like racist you know why the

00:44:43.400 white guys are racist and like that's every sketch and uh they basically said well like okay yeah

00:44:48.380 like we'll just give you money and just don't work here anymore but we'll pay you to like not

00:44:53.860 complain basically so um that wouldn't happen uh you know now like with anybody else like if you

00:45:03.480 were a new guy there like she'd been there for so long that they had she had seniority that they'd be

00:45:07.500 like okay we'll pay you off kind of like sorry it's so it's such a bad show but we have to do it like

00:45:12.380 this because this is what they're telling us to do but if i started there and a week in somebody sent

00:45:17.560 them a theresa tam they'd be like he's fucked like they'd just be like he's fired and it's like

00:45:21.180 he's fired for what doing comedy that maybe was too offensive but it was still comedy and so now

00:45:27.140 what now you're going to give money to all these you know they basically want you to quit

00:45:32.560 they want me to quit comedy delete everything i've ever made and go like disappear and like go

00:45:40.440 live in like uh sarnia and work in like a factory or something that's that would like that

00:45:44.880 would be best case scenario did you see their rebel news sketch a couple years ago

00:45:48.520 yeah with the key and bexty yeah that was kind of funny it was kind of funny but like at the end

00:45:54.560 of some of their stuff's getting better actually i watched a sketch recently and they they did it

00:45:58.540 against masks or something and it was actually kind of funny are you sure that wasn't uh snl no it

00:46:04.280 was them they did something against i don't know people are worried i don't know what it was but

00:46:08.160 look their quality is so good the quality is so good on their stuff that you know they have the

00:46:14.580 potential to be doing so much more and you know hey if they're watching this there's no reason that

00:46:21.660 they shouldn't like reach out to me like they don't have to like it's not like oh they reach out to me

00:46:25.460 and like now they're gonna get canceled for reaching out to me they'd be like hey you're funny but we you

00:46:29.600 know well you know exactly what would happen here's a post from cbc where this hour is 22 minutes

00:46:35.600 with ben bagus in it hey did you know he worked with rebel news and he was anti-lockdown and he

00:46:41.440 did illegal shows and he was against all this that and the other and then three people say that and

00:46:46.680 they're like oh we apologize he'll never work here again but even if that happened like that could be

00:46:52.040 like my shane gillis moment you know what i mean like so you want to get canceled is what you're

00:46:56.180 saying well even if i did i'm saying that if they hired me and then they fired me because of uh teresa

00:47:00.600 tam video or because i was at that would be headline news and then everybody would go who the hell is

00:47:05.500 this guy he got hired for two seconds got fired whereas i mean that happened to be actually at

00:47:11.660 rebel and nobody cared two seconds i don't know about that no i was here for what a couple months

00:47:17.420 yeah i'm like always i'm always i'll hire you back i'll be your assistant always lurking in the

00:47:23.340 background final question um what clip went the most viral my favorite one is the doug ford

00:47:31.100 tim beebs one i watched it a hundred times that's the best one you know i tried to go out and get

00:47:37.900 tim beebs merchandise and none of the tim hortons had it i wanted to show up for work in the tim

00:47:43.100 beebs fanny pack and i think toke no tim hortons had them i don't think they have the products ever

00:47:50.360 existed awful um honestly the video of me doing the stand-up bit about saying the n-word uh yeah

00:47:59.520 with the 500 000 views uh best friends with a black guy skit no those videos did okay i mean i'm

00:48:07.100 consistently hitting like above 10k for most videos some are like 40k some of the better like trudeau

00:48:13.020 dubs are like 80 100 but my biggest video right now is that on my old account and my old tiktok i

00:48:20.160 had a million views on the first or one of the first doug ford ones i did where he had a mask on

00:48:25.360 and he was like we're closing her down boys tell six bus boys we're we don't know what's going on

00:48:30.880 here anymore yeah you want to do a voiceover right now we'll put doug ford over it sure can you do that

00:48:36.420 on the screen well not right now but we can put doug ford's image up but i don't know if we could

00:48:41.280 oh okay okay yeah deep fake you okay well okay introduce doug ford and then ladies and gentlemen

00:48:46.800 the premier of ontario doug ford well how's it going there uh really happy we're opening up and

00:48:53.580 saved a lot of money by not spending it on health care there boys anything else you want to say we

00:48:59.700 can cut any clip for you and it's going to get at least 50k i'll promise you if you want to well

00:49:06.280 one of your bits or do a a joke from your routine just talk to me like i'm doug ford and i'll pretend

00:49:13.600 to be doug ford right now and then put up my his image over half of the screen and pretend like you're

00:49:18.720 interviewing him uh premier ford what took so long to lift the mask mandate well we had a lot of these

00:49:25.360 uh soccer moms and karens out there in etobicoke and uh a couple of them there in sarnia and they

00:49:31.240 they just kept calling every day and emailing us and saying you know we're really worried about the

00:49:36.180 masks and we need we think we need to keep them on the kids and uh you know we listen to them and

00:49:41.100 we listen to the people on twitter who are uh really super far left and that's pretty much how

00:49:46.240 we make our decisions but premier you've been photographed so many times not wearing masks

00:49:51.340 not following capacity limits going to weddings how do you explain all that well you know uh yeah when

00:49:57.640 you're out having a good time sometimes you forget you know we all remember my brother he'd like to

00:50:02.320 have a good time sometimes forget what he would do and you know uh you know next thing you know you're

00:50:06.860 you're smoking a little bit of crack uh you know but i never did that so at least we had that but i

00:50:12.040 would be at a party and sometimes we take it off and we all we knew everybody there was tested negative

00:50:16.960 or uh how to uh you know how to negative pcr or triple double vaccinated so we never really got that

00:50:24.640 upset last question to you premier your daughters are notoriously come out against a lot of your

00:50:30.720 policies do you have any message for them how do you feel about that well uh you know i don't talk

00:50:36.360 to her anymore that's uh safe to say that i moved her out of the basement she thought she could live

00:50:40.840 down there and do her little yoga studio and have a have a little cookie store down the street there

00:50:45.540 in etobicoke i said uh you know no way uh you're either getting vaccinated or you're getting the hell out

00:50:50.380 of my house so uh that's that's that's what we do there and uh you know we don't talk to her

00:50:55.100 anywhere all right thank you good sir um that's fun all right uh no i pass you over to treese time

00:51:04.680 trisha i call her trisha tam now why is that because it's just more when you i just said i've

00:51:11.980 said her name so many times treese tam but it becomes yeah it becomes trish tam trish tam

00:51:17.780 what's trisha talking about on tv there oh don't go aside again that was pretty much

00:51:26.960 that'd be hilarious if they did covet all over again like every time i'm just gonna get more

00:51:31.600 and more famous because all i do is make fun of this one person no it's racist comedian please

00:51:35.440 check out my podcast benbankus.com and i will cut the clip of you telling me i have great hair

00:51:41.540 over and over again thanks for coming in um i'm gonna try to get you

00:51:45.500 you look like you coach grade 11 soccer i wish you know uh when i was a youtube when i was just

00:51:53.740 doing youtube and i had bet you wish zero dollars in my bank account i was like maybe i need to go

00:51:59.140 back to my high school and become assistant basketball coach or something wow i play basketball

00:52:04.920 am i getting paid for this um you can have any food in the kitchen you want there's cake

00:52:09.860 fuck i'm on a diet there's i'll eat the cake there's cake there's there's cake like what kind

00:52:17.220 of cake just cake there is actually an ice cream cake from ezra's birthday still and somebody just

00:52:22.920 brought in a cake today i'm not sure i might have ezra's birthday cake i think i want that

00:52:28.400 it's a power move everybody thanks for watching thanks for being a rebel news plus subscriber go to

00:52:34.140 ben bankus's website and watch his podcast ben bankus podcast on patreon and of course go to

00:52:40.980 his instagram channel and watch his content any final words you look like you're going to cry

00:52:45.800 god bless canada god bless justin trudeau thank you for giving us the opportunity to speak

00:52:55.780 we're at the cbc right this is on the cbc yeah uh cbc radio one with john gamesh i should be less

00:53:05.300 bitter but i am kind of the i'm like the white patrice o'neill of canadian comedy right now i love

00:53:10.380 patrice o'neill i think i've listened to everything he's ever self-proclaimed event nobody no

00:53:16.100 comedian's gonna watch this this is behind a paywall that's true i can say anything you all suck

00:53:21.740 every comedian canada sucks except for me and uh come see my show with kyle kyle doesn't suck

00:53:30.440 kyle's good i mean like i mean the established well the comedy establishment are they they are

00:53:36.420 there's i they're on my facebook i'd like you to name one of them i follow i'll say again i don't

00:53:42.020 know who that is i follow he's a guy with a big afro that's like if you looked him up right now like

00:53:45.980 every single one of his videos is like professionally done at like a gala performance at just for laughs

00:53:50.900 he makes like sixty thousand dollars a year from uh sound exchange for his one of his albums being

00:53:57.180 on uh uh on sirius xm that's how the majority the the upper echelon of canadian comedy the way they

00:54:02.760 make money is they make somehow they're getting 60k a year to have uh their album on sound exchange

00:54:09.480 that's played by one guy that makes all these decisions his name's ben minor he makes all these

00:54:15.200 decisions and he gets to decide who makes how much money and whose album gets to get played and all this

00:54:20.080 kind of shit and uh and then on and then those people also get to do all the like gala canadian

00:54:26.100 gala performances like the three six mafia of the canadian comedy so i can't do that because i'm

00:54:31.220 illegal my comedy is illegal so you have to go to patreon.com slash ben bankus and give me money

00:54:35.940 give me money instead of i mean if you're giving him money you better give me money they do all right

00:54:41.380 see you next week i know they do they're watching it bye guys

Rebel News Podcast - March 11, 2022

ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Ben Bankas： How to Fix Canadian Comedy

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