On today's episode of Andrew Yang's new podcast, Andrew Says, host Andrew Yang sits down with political commentator James Klug to discuss the recent Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots in Ferguson, Missouri, as well as the Biden administration changing the term "mother" to "birthing."
00:01:15.500But I do know, or I at least feel that as a white person, I have, like, a little bit more opportunity than someone who's not.
00:01:25.820James Klug is a political commentator, he's been labeled as a pipeline to conservative news for his on-the-ground coverage of BLM and Antifa riots.
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00:03:13.000It's one of those topics that even Biden supporters, keep in mind a lot of Biden supporters, they voted for Biden because they did not like Trump, right?
00:03:20.820So they're figuring all this far left-wing stuff out, and a lot of people are totally rejecting it.
00:03:26.420Of course, you do still get people that are absolutely on board for it.
00:03:30.520But this is a pretty interesting conversation, and I think there's a lot of speculation around this.
00:03:35.200But I think a lot of it has to do with kind of destabilizing culture in America.
00:03:41.020Basically, if there's something good or more so something that the left in our country absolutely despises, such as, let's say, traditional gender roles.
00:03:50.660Now, I'm not saying that every single woman has to be the most female woman and every single man has to be the most masculine man.
00:03:56.780Not everybody has as great facial hair as you and I.
00:03:58.780But they really go the opposite direction, right?
00:04:04.220They go the exact opposite direction of, okay, let's just obliterate gender altogether.
00:04:09.980And that's what we're seeing with the Biden administration.
00:04:11.780They're trying to replace mothers with birthing people, pretty much dwindling down motherhood.
00:04:40.000It's all of this beautiful stuff that comes with motherhood.
00:04:44.080And it kind of just falls in that pattern of basically going the exact opposite direction of traditional American culture, American values, everything like this.
00:04:54.240That's just one aspect of the conversation.
00:04:57.360And there's a lot more points to this.
00:04:59.840It's basically getting rid of genders where, you know, they pretty much just want absolutely nothing to do with a mother, father, boy, girl, anything like that in this country.
00:05:09.940And this is really what they're pushing for.
00:05:11.560They're going to keep pushing and they're going to keep normalizing this stuff, keep pushing it in schools, which they already are.
00:05:17.200And I know in Canada they're already – I believe they're pushing for that stuff as well.
00:05:21.440And, yeah, I mean there's just no end in sight.
00:05:23.900And a lot of people see this, you know, a lot of folks that voted for Biden that see this.
00:05:28.020And maybe they're not the furthest left person.
00:05:29.880Maybe they just didn't like Trump that much.
00:05:31.560And a lot of people are completely rejecting it.
00:05:33.980However, it's a really aggressive push from the left.
00:05:36.080I mean it's incredibly aggressive and they push it in every aspect of our lives.
00:05:39.360You turn on Netflix and they're trying to be politically correct, everything like that.
00:05:42.560So it's in media, entertainment, it's in government, schooling, everything.
00:05:49.000Well, in Canada, rejecting your child's gender identity will get them taken away from you and in even one case ended up in British Columbia as a man going to jail.
00:05:57.720I wanted to ask you what is the – the other side – what about the people who say this is just for inclusion, we're just trying to be nice to people.
00:06:06.920How do you differentiate between, you know, a power move versus let's just be nice and friendly to people?
00:06:14.420Well, I mean even the inclusion aspect of it, it's just a terrible argument.
00:06:18.820You're including how many people, how many few people and excluding the rest.
00:06:24.540One of the questions that I asked in that video was, hey, do you feel included by this?
00:06:28.200Asking mothers around – I mean I'm in Los Angeles, by the way, like when I was filming that video.
00:06:42.980So I think it's another example of, oh, well, we want to be inclusive.
00:06:47.460We want – you know, we're caring about these people's rights and all this stuff.
00:06:51.380But really you're excluding the 99 percent majority of individuals out there.
00:06:57.300It's kind of similar to recently we had a transgender woman go into a spa in Los Angeles.
00:07:03.800And he still had his male genitalia, exposed himself in front of women in the women's only section of the spa as well as underage girls.
00:07:13.400And the argument from the left in this country is, oh, well, that person has a right to do that.
00:07:18.880Well, you know, this person doesn't – if this person's rights stampede on the 99 percent, then that doesn't make that much sense.
00:07:26.460I mean, of course we want to treat people with love and compassion and stuff like that.
00:07:30.240I mean, you know, people want to be equal, but that's not equality there.
00:07:32.980So why such a hard attempt and push to garner support from a population that's 5 percent is generous, well under that?
00:07:40.540Why such a push to accept Caitlyn Jenner into the Republican Party?
00:07:45.580Why such a push to, you know, change language?
00:07:47.860What is the goal, as you said just before, to try to dismantle what the social fabric is?
00:07:54.560Or is there some other reason that you think it is?
00:07:57.940I think there's multiple reasons, but I think that's the number one reason.
00:08:01.540I think dismantling social fabric of the United States, I think it's the number one goal, getting rid of what it means to be American, Judeo-Christian values, anything like that.
00:08:12.020These people basically run the exact opposite direction.
00:08:16.040I mean, this is not just, oh, well, meet in the middle a little bit.
00:08:19.240No, this is the exact 180, complete opposite.
00:08:22.160I think that's the biggest goal in my personal opinion.
00:08:24.920I know there's other points that people have made as well.
00:08:26.740But from my personal opinion, I definitely think that that's the end goal is basically obliterate gender roles, obliterate all these things.
00:11:01.580And this happened on July 3rd, right before July 4th.
00:11:06.320Nothing says, I mentioned this in Elijah's podcast, nothing says, you know, happy birthday, America, like a small civil war in the streets of Los Angeles.
00:11:15.080At 9.40 or so a.m., they actually, a conservative group gathered.
00:11:21.420And what they were gathering for was actually what I was just talking about, which is the transgender female that ended up going into the women's only section of that spa.
00:11:32.760So what they were doing is this conservative group, maybe 30 people gathered to protest and stand up for the women that felt uncomfortable in that situation.
00:11:42.260And naturally, Antifa, SoCal Antifa, as well as other Antifa pages, posted this all over the place because they want to confront these conservative demonstrators.
00:11:54.640So as early as 9.45 a.m., the organizer of the conservative group ended up, you know, he was he was taken out of signs, everything like that.
00:12:03.720Antifa walked up and they were ripping up the signs.
00:12:09.620They had about six people on him just kicking the snot out of him in the street.
00:12:13.840So things just slowly started escalating from there, of course, because that's what happens when fights break out in the middle of the street.
00:12:20.600Keep in mind, Los Angeles police, you would imagine, OK, yeah, police would be breaking the thing up.
00:12:25.560When I showed up, it was about I think police were about three blocks away just monitoring the situation.
00:12:31.000So people are getting beaten in the streets.
00:12:34.580There's a group of maybe 150 plus left wingers, maybe about 30 more kind of it's more of a religious group in the morning.
00:12:42.060It seemed like. And when I showed up, I witnessed them all being chased out.
00:12:46.880So that footage was mine where I'm showing that guy being chased out.
00:12:49.320He's wearing like a Jesus save shirt, stuff like that.
00:12:53.020And really what that turned into was a giant battle in the street.
00:12:58.680After all, the conservatives pretty much just got totally jumped and destroyed.
00:13:03.040A more aggressive right wing group showed up and they just started battling each other in the street.
00:13:08.120So not only not not not 10 minutes in, I show up and I'm getting footage of people.
00:13:14.100I was actually just stopping by. I was filming another video in Los Angeles that day.
00:13:17.480I stopped by just because I heard about it.
00:13:19.540I like I mentioned that in that clip that you played, a guy flanked me from from my right,
00:13:24.860starts swinging this wooden baton at me, ends up smacking me as hard as he can in the back,
00:13:31.040which, you know, doesn't feel the best.
00:13:33.700But that's just what you know, that's just what happens when you show up to these these scenes.
00:13:38.120And yeah, they were they ended up kind of just battling in the street, actually outside of where I parked.
00:13:43.880So I stayed there for an hour or so. And and that was pretty big news in in in California, certainly.
00:13:49.520But but nationwide, actually, just because there's this like I mentioned,
00:13:52.680this mini civil war happening in the middle of Los Angeles.
00:13:55.780Police are standing by. People are beating the crap out of each other in the street.
00:13:59.180And it was just chaos. And I know I'm ranting, but I want to mention one thing.
00:14:04.060A big focus here is a conservative group gathered in the morning, right, to hold their signs, all of this stuff.
00:14:10.600Antifa has really acted in places where police have kind of a stand down policy as the arbiters of truth,
00:14:17.040the arbiters of what can be said at these demonstrations.
00:14:19.960And if you say something that they they dislike, they're going to show up and they're going to beat the living snot out of you.
00:14:25.080And that's why not a lot of families show up to these places, not a lot of standard conservative right wing people really show up to these places because they kind of know what they're getting into by now.
00:14:35.400Yeah, I think we can show that picture, producer, Justin, of the mark left on your back because we didn't catch it in the video.
00:14:41.300It looked like he was carrying like a British police officer's billy club from the 1940s or something.
00:14:46.580He should have been twirling it around whistling at the time.
00:14:49.280But that's no joke getting hit across the back like that, much less hairy back than mine.
00:15:22.540I mean, I think it's been pretty aggressive for quite some time.
00:15:25.640They've certainly become, and this is, I don't know if it's shocking, but it's more sad.
00:15:31.000The rhetoric's become more mainstream.
00:15:33.220It's been repeated by people, the elected officials in the United States.
00:15:37.440And that rhetoric is, you know, down with like dismantling capitalism, dismantling individual rights because they see them as a, like a facade of, you know, hierarchies of power.
00:15:48.940A lot of these people are, I don't know if they're like sick or something, but they're straight up anarcho-communists for a lot of them.
00:16:11.240They've gotten smarter when it comes to spotting out the, quote, bad guys.
00:16:16.440And really what the bad guys for them are are the reporters that are willing to show it all, right?
00:16:20.980The reporters that are willing to show them beating people in the streets, vandalizing property, everything like that.
00:16:26.200And most of those reporters, such as myself, let's say Proud Boys are out or doing something like that, you know, we film those groups as well.
00:16:33.120They just so happen to do a lot less than Antifa does.
00:16:36.880I mean, last year in 2020, you hear about this all the time, but the entire summer of BLM and Antifa riots happening in the streets, this stuff was chaos.
00:16:45.540And the reason why people like me go out filming and people like Jorge Ventura or maybe Kalen from Scriber News, the reason why people like us go out there and film this stuff is because everybody started noticing that the left-wing media, the mainstream media, everything like that wasn't properly covering it, right?
00:17:05.680They would be saying – CNN is famous for saying fiery but mostly peaceful in Kenosha, I believe it was, with a massive, you know, parking lot on fire behind that person when they're reporting.
00:18:10.320Is it obvious on the ground that they have some sort of funding or training, somebody telling them what to do in some regard?
00:18:17.100I know Oakland Antifa had training from the – I think it was the Denmark chapter who was working with actual terrorist people – terrorist organizations out of the Middle East.
00:18:28.340Is it obvious for at least some of these groups that they're receiving some sort of funding or overarching organization?
00:18:34.740I mean, I think that they raise money from left-wing groups in the United States.
00:18:40.620I haven't seen any, like, substantial evidence of that.
00:18:42.880But one thing I can say for sure is their tactics are very similar all across the United States.
00:19:17.140They all do the right things when it comes to being able to get away with vandalizing property, beating people senselessly in the streets, stuff like that.
00:23:31.120But we would post on social media first and foremost just to get the truth out there because all that you have at these Antifa riots is Antifa-friendly press.
00:23:42.040We call them fake Antifa press because they harass cops.
00:23:53.480We post it to social media, and it gets recognition there.
00:23:56.520Now, of course, our team now, we're a little bit more connected with who wants the footage and everything like that.
00:24:02.840So if people want to have the footage or talk about it on their show, for me personally, I go on Newsmax, and I talk about what I see, everything like that because I work with Newsmax.
00:24:14.500And it's usually the same group of companies because they oftentimes, or pretty much every time, for Newsmax's case, they just tell it like it is.
00:24:25.060If there's, you know, right-wingers that show up somewhere, they're going to report on it.
00:24:29.420If there's left-wingers that show up somewhere, they're going to report on it.
00:24:31.680CNN, all of these other companies, they want nothing to do with talking about Antifa.
00:24:36.060They want absolutely nothing to do with it.
00:25:40.160It's literally the weirdest hill to die on.
00:25:41.840But they choose to do it, and they get our names out there.
00:25:45.060So, you know, now this is going through every single Antifa group, every single BLM group, to where if I'm not covered up or something like that, at one of these rallies, I'm getting jumped by six people or so.
00:25:57.840I mean, Kalen from Scriber News, he got jumped maybe about a month and a half ago in a BLM rally, and they just saw him.
00:26:07.420They said, oh, you're not on our side.
00:26:08.920He wasn't even talking to anybody, and they beat the crap out of him.
00:26:25.240No, they're going to go like circle you.
00:26:28.040They're going to say you're a propagandist, racist, whatever lies they have, and they all rally themselves up, rile themselves up, and surround you and attack you.
00:26:36.540That's why most of us have been attacked by people and hit pieces like that article absolutely do not help us.
00:26:44.500And, you know, we don't even talk to people when we're there.
00:26:59.100So, yeah, that article, it's defending the people that have been terrorizing communities for the last year and a half and going after the people exposing it.
00:27:08.520Yeah, I think if you have any sort of news acumen, you can pretty much see through what's going on there.
00:27:13.960And it may be knowledge that someone like you or I or whatever the reverse of myself would be possesses, but I'm not about to go out and write an article about cameramen from MSNBC and BuzzFeed and now this and how they look for right-wing agitators to shove propaganda onto Joy Reid again.
00:27:35.020But my point is that I don't think there's any other reason why you would write an article about that.
00:27:40.600I've never written an article about cameramen before or about people, a group of, these are the group of reporters that report on, you know, oil pipelines or something.
00:27:48.920I don't see how there can be any other point to it.
00:27:51.260Well, they must feel like it makes them look bad, right?
00:27:54.720It makes their side look bad because tribalism, right?
00:27:58.240Instead of just condemning bad behavior, which is so easy to do, you see someone being an idiot left or right.
00:28:04.180It's not that hard to condemn crappy behavior.
00:28:06.840And instead of doing that, they go after the people that are actually exposing it.
00:28:14.540Like when we saw that article released, that was pretty unbelievable.
00:28:17.280You have people that are sitting at home on their couch watching the riots all year through their lens and people showing the attacks actually on the street, risking their lives and going after them instead.
00:29:03.260They only mentioned what was convenient for them.
00:29:05.200So if there was maybe like I would see maybe a screw up in that article, someone messed up or whatever, God forbid you missed saying something while you're in the middle of a riot, while riot canisters are going off, tear gas is going off, officers are pushing back on you, and you're sitting there shaking on Twitter trying to update the world of what's going on there.
00:29:25.100I mean, it's just unbelievable people sitting on their couch at home judging people that are actually going into the thick of it to get the best footage that they can get to paint a picture for what it's looking like at these demonstrations.
00:29:38.800Last year, so many of them turned into absolute chaos, where if there was just a standard BLM protest in a suburb that remained peaceful, right, a bunch of maybe college kids, stuff like that, people would be boarding up their businesses around the area.
00:30:03.800When there was a BLM march in downtown Toronto, the majority of the businesses pre-boarded their businesses up.
00:30:10.860And this is in the financial district on the biggest street in Toronto.
00:30:14.880These businesses are closing early and boarding their businesses up.
00:30:18.700And it's not because, you know, of this right-wing fantasy that these things may or may not get violent.
00:30:23.780It didn't get violent, frankly, but they wouldn't believe that if none of them turned out to be violent.
00:30:28.080I think you answered my next question, which is that you are more noticeable and recognizable by these groups and all the other people.
00:30:35.440So I think that we can go past that and just say that it is pretty obvious that they're trying to make you guys out to be targets and support their own ideological teammates.
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00:31:13.440Speaking of Biden, James, his admin, and this isn't funny, is making some scary moves on the eve of Trump's social media lawsuit, ironically enough.
00:31:22.620I guess they're thinking, let's bypass all that social media stuff altogether.
00:31:26.800Let's get right into people's phones before they can open up Twitter.
00:31:32.220Justin, can you please pull up the article from Politico that we have?
00:31:36.120And I want to read an excerpt from this.
00:31:38.200I think I saw you talking about this also.
00:31:39.880Biden-allied groups, including the DNC National Committee, are also planning to engage fact-checkers more aggressively and work with SMS carriers, which is your text messaging, to dispel misinformation about vaccines that's sent over social media and text messages.
00:31:54.640The goal is to ensure that people who may have difficulty getting a vaccination because of issues like transportation see those barriers lessened or removed entirely, end quote.
00:32:03.520So they're saying that because people might be hearing misinformation, that's making them hesitant to go get a vaccination, and that's a reason why we should be censoring text messages.
00:32:15.720Am I understanding this correctly, James?
00:32:17.140Okay, so basically what we're seeing here, we're seeing a time in American history where the government's realizing and the Democratic Party is realizing.
00:32:36.420They've gone so far left, they're realizing that they can't become this sort of totalitarian regime that they want to be, that they're going to start pressuring private companies, SMS companies, to police your text messages.
00:32:51.080And also, who's the arbiter of truth here?
00:32:53.760Is it a Democrat's opinion that something doesn't work?
00:32:56.000Because we've seen a lot of times, or many times last year, that things ended up being semi-true or true itself, and they were being censored by big tech.
00:33:07.260So we're seeing the government putting pressure on private businesses to basically do their bidding.
00:33:11.600They want to censor, they want to police text messages, and that should be the creepiest thing people have ever heard in their lives.
00:34:03.620But you look at this stuff and you're just like, the only way that you could support stuff like this in this country,
00:34:08.140the only way that you could support stuff like this policing text messages, if you just truly hate what America is.
00:34:15.740I mean, it almost seems like the only part of this country, the only part of the United States that the left likes nowadays is the geographical location because they don't like anything else.
00:35:01.580Because it already happens with your Twitter messages, Facebook messages.
00:35:06.280I'm going to throw out a conspiracy theory with this pen and say that's what Grammarly is, reading your emails.
00:35:11.780Do you think that, you know, Verizon, Sprint, all these companies, do you think they tow the party line on this moving forward?
00:35:17.960Yeah, it's a difficult question because I don't know if as many companies are left-leaning from the very top as much as they are just opportunists
00:35:29.580when it comes to who's going to put the most pressure on them and who's going to give them the most backlash.
00:35:34.680OK, that's not the right in the United States.
00:35:36.760The right is not going to put the most pressure on them, and they're not going to give them the most backlash
00:35:40.000because everybody knows that the right kind of just, you know, you still get a bunch of Republicans that shop at, that go to Starbucks, for example.
00:35:46.300Starbucks is maybe one of the more openly left-leaning companies in the United States, and far left, right?
00:35:53.240So the right's not going to be doing that.
00:35:55.040The left, however, is very vicious when it comes to putting pressure on businesses, when it comes to backlash.