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Melissa Tate is a christian conservative author, activist and political commentator. She is also the author of the book Choice Privilege: What's Race Got to Do with It, and she is a political commentator and commentator. In this episode, we discuss critical race theory and why it should not be taught in public schools.
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melissa tate is a christian conservative author activist and political commentator
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she's also the author of the book choice privilege what's race got to do with it
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melissa how are you doing today thanks for joining me on the show i'm doing great thank you so much
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for having me now i want to get into your exactly what came about for your book and you writing it
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in a little bit but first i want to try to play the other side on you and say what and ask you
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what exactly are some of the issues that you have with critical race theory
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well uh basically uh critical race theory um is a is a marxist ideology really at its core like
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you really just want to go down to its core you know it's a marxist ideology that is designed to
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racially divide and conquer a nation for marxism yeah so uh so it's something that i've actually
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seen play out in my own country and i and i write a lot about that in my book but also uh you know just
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even not even looking at the bigger picture you know what is it doing to children what is it doing
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to white children what is it doing to black children so it has a psychological effect that
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it's having on children and on people and on society so it's something that i don't think is
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good on a societal level in on the bigger picture side i feel it is dangerous because it's marxism
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now it's come to a lot of people's attention and there's of course people or parents gathering
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together and trying to put a stop to it in their school districts into their school boards so now
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that that's been brought to light a lot of the counter argument to that are people just saying this
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is just a way to teach children about racial injustices and the law about past history that people
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have faced in the united states uh how do you feel about that do you think that if parents were to
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just sit and read more about what their children are being taught that they'd be more against it or
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would they be understanding of what you know people might argue that they're trying to teach
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no i don't think they would be understanding because the way it's being reported in media is very
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different from how it's actually playing out in real life and i'll give you an example of that lady named
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gabby i forget what her last name is but she's actually one of the first women
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to sue a school for teaching that type of ideology because the way it manifested in her son's life so
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she's actually a biracial woman so she's black and her son i guess he looks white and because he looks
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white he was asked by the school to write a paper stating his white dominance and he refused to do that
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and rightfully so because you shouldn't be forced to do something like that and because he did that
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he was met with um you know pushback he i think he actually got punished for it by the school for
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not writing a paper about his white dominance so you see how this is playing out and this is uh so the
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mother was horrified and she's actually suing the school for this reason so you see what it does it like
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targets children and and puts them in a position where they're supposed to you know internalize their
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their race and and feel guilty about it if they're white if they're black they're being told that
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you're oppressed and you you can't amount to anything so to me this is something that is very
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dangerous to children and it shouldn't be taught in schools at all now in grade school and high school
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you're sort of expecting the children to just you know taking what they're told they're they're uh quizzed
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you're tested on it and you move on from there but in college and university you're supposed to have
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more of a critical uh thought basis to what you're being taught you're supposed to question it and maybe
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come up with some ideas to go against it but why is it do you think that so many young people college
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university age are willing to jump on board with this especially people who are who are living in
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areas where they maybe feel like they have some sort of privilege and they've been told that other
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people who don't look like them would not have the same privilege as they do well because the
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universities no longer teach people how to critically think or challenge any ideas they're just basically
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given what they're supposed to think and really they're being told what to think and these children
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you know particularly from the white privileged areas they're being told to feel guilty about you know
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who they are about being white and to feel sorry for all these black people because they're oppressed
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and so forth and that's what they start to internalize but really what it is it's it's a
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critical race theory it claims to state that they are trying to teach history but really they don't
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really teach the true history it's a very revisionist history if you really study the type of history
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they're they're uh teaching out there because it is a history that only focuses on the bad things that
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happen to black people but it also erases all the achievement that black people and all the
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accomplishments black people have made in this country and all the contributions they've made to
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this nation so it's a very one-sided type of way of looking at it and if children in universities are
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just presented with one set of facts or one set of uh one uh one uh if they're presented just with
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one type of history and not any other types of information then they're just going to form their
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opinions on on what they're given and there's a lot of stuff that is emitted out of it and i'll give
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you an example you know uh if you study booker t washington booker t washington was a great african
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american man who built a great black university and actually the um the the president of harvard came to
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the tuskegee institute which was his university the black university and stated that the booker t
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washington's university was creating more millionaires than harvard princeton and the ale combined
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you know and that's something that's not taught in critical race theory type history so and this is
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at a time when white supremacy actually existed so during a time right after slavery when white
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supremacy actually existed and there were barriers for black people black people were achieving great
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things and building great societies and doing great things and all that stuff is erased from this
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revisionist 1619 project type history that doesn't focus on any of the achievements that african americans
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made in spite of the racism and oppression that was happening at that time so if that was happening in
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1905 if a black man created a university that was creating millionaires
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um that more millionaires than harvard princeton and yale combined so you're telling me that black
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people can't succeed today in 2021 but that's what they're being told and it's a message that is
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demoralizing to black children because they don't ever get to see any of that history of these great
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achievements that african americans made and they just believe that they're oppressed and that becomes
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a mentality that becomes a way of thinking for them and a belief system that actually starts
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to manifest the poverty and oppression that we see today now you mentioned about sort of a revisionist
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history and focusing on the negative stuff i was having a conversation with somebody recently
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and we were we were actually in the grocery store and we're looking at uncle ben's rice and we're like
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this is going to be targeted by cancel culture little did we know we were looking at an old box of
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uncle ben's and it has already they've already taken him off of the box they've taken aunt jemima off
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and there's actual history behind people like aunt jemima which is overwhelmingly positive now my
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point is i want to ask who actually is affected by this if we take start taking black figures for
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better or for worse the same thing with monuments and statues if we start taking figures down do you
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see this as an actual positive for anybody do you walk through a grocery store or anybody you know
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walk through a grocery store and say thank god uncle ben or aunt jemima are no longer on these products
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does this make a difference to anyone other than you know maybe a thousand people on twitter who had
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a problem with it yeah and you're absolutely right it doesn't it no critical race theory and all this
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stuff is doesn't benefit anybody except the far left elites that's all who benefits out of it because
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it really if you think about what they're doing how does it even benefit the average black person
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if you see what's happening in the black communities right now the biggest issue is the fact that
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black children are graduating not knowing how to read or do math so they're being set up for failure
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and that is something that we should be talking about and focusing on instead we're tearing down
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statues and taking uncle ben off the box of rice all these symbolic things that have nothing to do with
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actual practical things that can actually help black children get out of the cycle of poverty and off the
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prison school to prison pipeline so you see with the left everything is all about symbology it's never
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about anything practical that is actually going to change anything in the black community because
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they don't want anything to change in the black community because the way the left succeeds is to
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come is is to perpetually have an underclass of voters that are poor and disgruntled and never
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achieve anything so that they can continue to perpetuate the narrative of oppression in the hopes that
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this oppression this oppressed class will then help them overthrow the system that they're trying to
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overthrow which would be the american system in this case i think you're completely right and i want to
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show the woman uh whose claims to have coined the term critical race theory she is you know joy reed on
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msnbc i hate how much i mention her but she's got these she gets these people to come on and they're
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basically saying that everybody's got it all wrong they're misrepresenting critical race theory so i
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want to play that clip i'm not sure if you've seen it and then we'll get your comments on it
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yeah it's very marxism look you know what here's here's the thing joy um critical race theory is not so
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much a thing it's a way of looking at a thing it's a way of looking at race it's a way of looking
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at why after so many decades centuries actually since the emancipation we have patterns of inequality
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that are enduring they are stubborn and the point of critical race theory originally was to think and
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talk about how law contributed to the subordinate status of african americans of indigenous people
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and of an entire uh group of people who were coming to our shores now it seems to me like they don't
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ever and if you and anyone can go and watch the full clip there i think it's a seven minute interview
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they don't ever talk about what's actually being taught or what's actually in the papers that were
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written about critical race theory it's like if i were to describe prison in the best way possible
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i'd say it's a rehabilitation center where you know people go and they can learn about themselves they
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can spend a lot of alone time and think about what's going on in their lives and they may come out
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and be a better person or in the reality is you might you're gonna have to join a gang and you're
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gonna get stabbed or something like that they don't want to actually talk about what's really in it
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and on top of that they don't seem to see marxism as a bad thing now maybe i'm just reaching there
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because it should be assumed that joy read or msnbc it's obvious that they don't see it as something
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that's bad but they're kind of positioning it as separate the same thing with uh intersectionality
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now now i think that's what's exactly what's going on in the media like we talked about earlier
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do you think the goal should be to completely stop teaching things like critical race theory
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altogether or do you think there's a different viewpoint that can be taught to try to get the
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points that this is supposed to be uh to get those points across well first i'd like to uh address that
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video that you just played and it just shows you how the left is deflecting from this issue because
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they don't want to face the truth because they know that people the way this ideology is manifesting
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is repulsive to people no matter what political side they're on so they want to keep people bogged
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down on these academic definitions of what critical race theory is and not talk about the how it's
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practically playing out in people's lives so i see what you're saying and then your second question
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uh i'm sorry can you repeat what was that second thing you asked me yeah i'm just wondering if you
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think we should eliminate that sort of thing completely or if there's a different angle maybe people can go at
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to try to teach like a racial history or teach about inequality do you think that needs to be taught
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at all or should that more of be a parental upbringing thing well here's the thing um i think
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you know obviously it needs it shouldn't be in in k through 12 it really shouldn't be there but when you
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always attack something because really us as conservatives it seems like we're always on defense
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so we're always uh you know attacking what the left is doing so we have to have an alternative
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so um i know that um what uh i forget what her name is um dr carol swain actually has a an alternative
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to critical race theory trainings you know like the diversity trainings they have in the corporations
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right you've seen those so um she has an alternative that she offers to people so you always want to
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offer an alternative so when somebody gives you a glass of dirty water but there's nothing else to
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drink people are just going to keep drinking this dirty water so you have to come up with a clean
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glass of water so that people have an alternative so i believe in creating an alternative so i would
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come up with maybe something like unity race theory that kind of encompasses all the history you know
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the fact that black people were succeeding in this country the fact that a lot of white people
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you know died and lost their lives to stop and end racism and slavery and all these things because
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they never want to talk about that they never want to talk about the fact that you know some of the
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africans were sold by other africans to come over here so this is not a you know they also don't talk
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about the fact that slavery was just the norm in society and it was actually western civilization
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based on christian judeo principles that actually ended slavery so all that is still part of history
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so i think if us as conservatives come up with an alternative um you know history or an alternative
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to critical race theory that shows the entire picture of what was happening during this time and
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explains it then people have an alternative to to turn to and they can say okay well at our school we're
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not going to teach critical race theory we're going to teach unity race theory and we're going to talk
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about all the history and not just a selective history that's creating a narrative so that's kind
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of the way i look at it i think another problem that arises from that is if you start going into the
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history of you know civil rights and ending slavery in the united states it sort of goes against what
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the democrat party claims to have been about and always been about throughout all of time whereas
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you have a president joe biden who was friends with dixiecrats for example who were the party of slavery
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so it's i i think some of the tiptoeing politically around that goes into pretending
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and you talk to people today they have no idea that republicans were against slavery uh when it existed
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so i think the political tiptoeing around that comes from not wanting to actually reveal
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what is actually the reverse history uh that some people are taught but you know maybe that's a
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conversation for another time i wanted to talk about also your book called choice privilege
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and ask you what goes into writing a book like that like what inspired you to talk about this idea of
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privilege well actually um it was actually inspired with the events that was taking place in 2020 so um
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you know we had the george floyd uh tragedy that happened and we all know how the left seized on
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that as an opportunity to smear the country as an entirely racist and evil nation and i reject that
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premise because i am actually an immigrant from zimbabwe i came to the united states at the age of 19
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i left everything and everybody i knew to come to this country with nothing but 300 in my pocket and a
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suitcase full of clothes and by the time i was 27 years old i had a business that was doing
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seven figures in revenue i was living the american dream i married i have three children so this
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country has really been good to me so when i start to hear this narrative that america is oppressive to
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minorities i know that to be a false narrative and when this george floyd tragedy happened in the
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um you know the way the left really seized on that to create a narrative i felt like that was a
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turning point in america in that this narrative that i used to hear on fall left twitter and fall
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left academia that america systemically racist and evil started to become mainstream i started to see
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it with friends family members and even my own pastor who was now posting you know black lives matter
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decals all over the church windows and talking about his white privilege and apologizing yeah absolutely
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i was mortified i was really mortified and that's that's what really just was like the tipping point
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because i realized that you know because as somebody who follows politics very closely i know that the
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premises that black lives matter you know uh put out there the fact that they say that black people
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are literally being hunted down like deer seasoned by policemen and being shot and then the statistics and
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the data don't even support their claims i know this i know that uh black lives matter is a
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self-proclaimed marxist organization i know that they're anti-family they're very much anti-christian
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values so to see my pastor actually just you know not knowing all these things and just you know going
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with the flow it just it just really grieved my spirit and um in my frustration um the lord spoke to
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me and said write a book about it and i was like okay i will so um i wrote the book and it's called
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choice privilege and basically uh it's a play on the words white privilege and i cross out where it
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says white and i put in choice because in america it's not it's not the color of your skin that
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determines your destiny and the quality of your life it's actually the choices that you make that
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has been my experience and that has been what my mother has taught me and i think that is an
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empowering message that it is the choices that you make because it gives you power to change your
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situation but if you're telling black children or minority children that you know you're doomed
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to fail just because of the color of your skin something that you can't change you can change
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your action you can change your choices and change your destiny but if you're not being given that
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message that you have the power to change your life and change your destiny for the better because
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of the choices you make but that you're doomed to fail because of the color of your skin
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that is a message that is very defeating it is demoralizing and it is something that you know
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everybody should reject no matter what color you are don't you think it's really weird i mean 20 years
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ago i mean i grew up on the very things that you're talking about uh you can do anything you want
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regardless of your race um the goal of society is for everyone to be equal and and we have laws that
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reflect that it's weird to me that now a person saying the things like you're saying and that a
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lot of people are starting to say now this is sort of supposed to be a counterculture this is against
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the grain and in many places you're not supposed to you're not supposed to say that yeah have you
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noticed how weird of a world we live in in this sense where it's like we're edgy now to say that
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everyone should be equal yes well it's equal opportunity and not equal outcomes but now we're you know
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moving into the space that unless we have equal outcomes then you know america is a horrible place
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and obviously there's no way of ever getting um equal outcomes it's an unattainable goal but you see
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that with the left everything they propose is something that is unattainable like they say we're
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going to erad we have to eradicate racism how are you going to eradicate racism how are you going to
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regulate the way people feel you know so they always have this unattainable thing that they put out there
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as a goal knowing that it's unattainable and that if you don't attain it then you're never you know
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then the country is just a horrible place but really what's happening um you know what we're seeing like
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you're talking about is that this has taken the left um a hundred years you know it's been a slow
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march through the institutions they've basically infiltrated every sphere of influence from media
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to education to entertainment to business to everything and they did it while we christians
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and conservatives just basically you know didn't do anything about it and now we're finally waking up
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in a world where if you say there's two genders you're the crazy one so uh it's really because we
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haven't really um you know pushed back on the left's you know slow infiltration into every sphere of
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society but i feel like it's not too late and i feel like people are finally waking up now we're
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kind of waking up in the in the last innings but we can still we can still win if everybody gets
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involved and gets engaged and that's that's kind of been my message like we need to just get off the
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sidelines and realize that we are in big trouble in this country if we let the marxist take over
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and coming from a country that that fell to marxism used critical race theory as you know as a means
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to achieve that goal i understand what we're up against i understand what the result is going to be
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if these people win and it is ugly and that's why i have felt really compelled to write this book
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and warn people that this is not a game this is not something we should take lightly that everybody
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needs to get involved and start speaking up standing up going to school boards you know even
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pulling your kids out of public schools you know that's something i really talk about but we really
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have to become awakened engaged and radical now i hear people like candace owens and uh amala
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ek panobi from prager you they talk about these assumptions that people have about their beliefs just
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because they're black now is this something that you've experienced personally and do you feel compelled
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to sort of tell them about zimbabwe um well i mean most people i mean obviously you see that most
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people well the way i see it is most african americans really are conservative in their values
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you know they believe the same things we kind of believe just the average person but it's all it's that
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vocal minority that is on twitter that is in media that is in academia that are the loudest and so it
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seems like they're the ones who you know represent what you know the average black person feels and
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the only i mean the other thing is that you know a lot of black people even though they are conservatives
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they've always felt like you know voting democrat is just the way they're supposed to do it and they
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don't even think twice about it it's just second nature so i think really it's about educating
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the african-american community that you know you're really voting against your own interests and this
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is something that president trump started you know in 2016 he he really was somebody on the right
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who really um you know opened up this new type of outreach to the black community that was meaningful
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in a way that kind of was able to bring a lot of black voters into the republican party or at least
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to the conservative side to awaken to the fact that the democrat party doesn't represent
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the black community at all in fact the democrat party has been a destructive force to the black community
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yeah i i struggle with naming a political party that's been worse for black people in the western
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world than the democrats and uh and i can back that up if i need to i also saw a video from
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pittsburgh their lieutenant governor almost said lieutenant because that's what we say in canada
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um saying that he's saying that voter fraud isn't an issue it's just all voter ids all about
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suppression they're talking about the texas democrats who all left and went to washington that's a big
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deal for some reason that they all went to vote on this thing but they're all saying especially out of
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texas is it's such a battleground state with so much um illegal immigration coming in and obviously
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a lot of these people are voting and and that's a huge battleground topic for them so i want to show
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you this clip from that's a local news station i think in pittsburgh where this guy's saying that
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it's not an issue at all can we play that justin lieutenant governor john fetterman says that voter fraud
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is quote a fiction he talked this morning to the texas house democrats who fled to dc to stop an election bill
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in their state fetterman has spoken out in the past about voting rights and pennsylvania's 2020
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election and today he called universal voter id insidious and unnecessary universal id and some
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of these other measures are a solution for a non-existent problem of voter id excuse me a voter
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fraud and it's simply voter suppression because they don't want people voting that they believe
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aren't going to ultimately elect them back in the fall fetterman got into it online with the
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republican lieutenant governor of texas over accusations of widespread voter fraud in the 2020
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election now we got lebron james got major league baseball all these people it seems like democrats are
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always against voter id they basically say it's too hard to vote and i think i'd be a little bit more
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sympathetic to this guy he was saying of course there's voter fraud but it's not so much of a big deal
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that we need to change our laws he's saying that it's not an issue at all which i complete i can't
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get on board with that how do you feel about this idea that asking people for id is is completely just
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voter suppression it is absolutely insulting in my opinion you know because uh basically what they're
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saying is black people are too dumb to have an id that's what they're saying and it just goes back to
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you know the bigotry of low expectation that the democrat party has always had they've always used
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black people as their human shield to pass whatever laws they want to pass because of poor black people
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so we're gonna have to help them you know because they're they're like they're like crippled children
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that we have to you know help and it's absolutely ridiculous i come from a country where you know people
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use they they they vote with their id and most of these people live on a dollar a day you know and
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if they can get an id then african americans can get an id as well so it's absolutely ridiculous we know
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that the reason why they don't want id is so that they they can cheat you know that's that's just
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basically what it is so it does it bother you when when that's like let's say a white person
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says that and they think they're coming to your defense when they say you know i mean joe biden
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says uh older black and mexican people can't use the internet to register uh to get a vaccine so there
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is a bigotry blow expectations but does this bother the regular person do you think to be told this is
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it demoralizing how does it make somebody feel when they say the you're you're basically helpless
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you can't get an idea even though you probably already have one well for me personally it's very
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patronizing it's very patronizing and and it's something that you know the the white liberal
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establishment has has really you know i feel like they have like this white savior white superiority
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complex where they feel like their life is just to you know be captain with the cape to save every
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black person out there and that's the lower level people but we know that on the higher level on the
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higher level these people are not out there to help black people they're out there to use black people
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as pawns as a means to the their uh agenda and really that's what it's all about you're gonna you're
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gonna cause a lot of people's heads to explode keep talking like that i wanted to get your opinions
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on and this is because nobody in canada ever talks about this there's churches in canada
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they're constantly being set on fire vandalized it's not being covered here by the mainstream media
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the prime minister has said i think two sentences about it and it seems that americans care more about
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this stuff and you're a vocal christian personality so i wanted to bring this up with you we have a
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little montage justin from our website that i wanted to show um let's go ahead and play that and i
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want to see how you feel about that in less than one month close to 50 churches have been burnt
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or vandalized in canada and it looks like they're not about to stop but all of a sudden canada looks
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a lot like the soviet union seem like we're exaggerating a little bit well they're burning
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catholic and anglican churches in recent days leftist groups are but canada's leaders aren't condemning
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the burning of churches no they're endorsing the burning of churches oh look at that new one
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somebody's putting their water out the tower is on fire now maybe the people who do this
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they should know that we we we have it done before too
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so you would think that this happened over the course of a year but it's actually been like a month
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um first of all had you heard about this before uh we played this for you
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yes i did see that and i hadn't actually i mean i feel bad that i haven't really focused on this
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issue but this is such a horrible horrible thing that is happening i mean i don't know what is going
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on in canada but canada is just it's like there's this anti-christ spirit that has risen up over there
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and it seems like people they don't really fight back against this agenda i i don't understand but maybe
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you can tell me a little bit about you know the way canadians feel about this but this is absolutely
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horrifying that this is happening but it just goes to show that really what's happening in my opinion
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all of it is an attack on christianity and attack on the people of god this is what i've seen because
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you see even like with the with the covid situation you see that a lot of the things they target is things
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that have to do with church and so forth but you can see how you know things like strip clubs and
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bottle stores and you know mega corporations can be open but churches have to be shut down and you
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have um pastors being arrested you have churches being burnt down i actually met with one of the
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pastors um the pastor that got arrested and when i was in tampa florida and he was telling me all the
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stuff that he has had to endure but he said that in spite of all of that he's actually seeing revival
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in his church so that really gave me hope but just to see how you know um a society that was founded on
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judeo-christian values i mean the west the west western civilization is built on christianity but you
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see that there is an agenda by the left to strip western civilization off its christian roots because
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really that is the foundation of what everything that we stand for as a civilization comes from
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that's where our laws come from that's where our morality comes from that's where everything um
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that we believe in as a society whether you're a christian or not comes from those judeo-christian
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values of loving your neighbor um being kind to one another not stealing from one another thou shall not
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kill and all these things because these were things that really weren't part of society before western
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civilization you know a lot of people lived in societies where they were tearing things down and
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um you know there was no freedom and there was no uh you know good relations between people and so
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forth so it's really sad to see how they are really attacking there's a there's a deliberate attack
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on christianity that is taking place in west in the west all over the all over the west well what's
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what sort of sparked this whole thing was they found a mass uh burial site that was unmarked
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uh by most accounts even the people there it was just an unmarked you know a grave site but the
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sort of the tv and news mainstream news narrative here was that this was from
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the uh the catholic uh schools that brought in all the indigenous the native children and tried to
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convert them into catholicism of course they weren't they weren't treated well 70 years ago
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i would be surprised if anyone had a good time at a catholic school in like the 50s frankly um the way
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the nuns acted but that's sort of it was sort of sparked by saying that this was just like you know a
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mass grave site where they buried these children in secret turned out it was more so like unmarked
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graves and of course graves should be respected and not desecrated but it sort of turned into this
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movement now where i would it appears to be a far left groups going across the country and and setting
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ablaze or vandalizing a few people have videotaped themselves doing it there's people who've been caught
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on uh security cameras and it doesn't appear to be what some people thought of maybe natives doing
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it because some of these are actually on indian reserves the churches and they're still being served
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as uh churches for the communities there so it would be very confusing if people were burning down
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essentially their own church and damaging their own reserve and their own properties as a way you know
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to get back at uh you know a sect of churches that may have been from another province as you can see
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they're all across the country they're in different places so that's sort of where the the story comes
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from and you'd have to wonder if the the people in power the federal government at least which is very
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liberal uh maybe less liberal or more liberal than the democrats i would argue but um they probably don't
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completely care about protecting uh religious rights because you know there's a loss of religion and a loss
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of faith completely in that section of politics but that's basically where it comes from and and if
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you want to look into more that we have the website there um more into that no i see i i wouldn't be
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surprised if it's the left that are you know tearing and burning things down because if you study history
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that's what the marxists do you know they're just going to be tearing down churches tearing down
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statues burning stuff down and so forth so i i am not surprised i wouldn't be surprised if it's the left and not who
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the media says is doing it so yeah i don't think biden even would be as silent on this as trudeau is
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because of how much christianity there is in uh the united states obviously trump wouldn't be silent
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on this at all there would probably be something put in place but speaking of trump do you think that
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i was talking to a youtuber yesterday do you think that uh that trump is going to run again for 2024
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what do you think the possibility is of that well i think he is going to run i think the only reason
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why he hasn't come out and said it is because of the um is because of the uh the election commission
00:36:17.080
i think they have rules about that but he's made enough of hints for me to believe that he is running
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i'm just assuming that he is running i don't see any reason why he wouldn't he seems to be already
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campaigning so i don't doubt that he's running at all who do you think he chooses as a vice president
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vice president this time around you know i don't know i would say he should pick ron de santis but
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i i want ron de santis to stay in florida because we need florida to remain free so um he would be a
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great pick for for vp but i'm not sure who i'm not sure who he would pick but ron de santis i think
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you also have kanye no i'm just kidding so what's kanye's party the birthday party i believe is kanye
00:36:59.960
kanye has kind of gone sideways so who knows about him i don't i haven't heard from him last
00:37:05.960
thing i heard from him is he's got the girl who's kicked out of the olympics on his uh on his team
00:37:11.640
there for adidas yeah the girl who was banned for smoking weed from the olympics is uh doing an ad
00:37:18.120
campaign with kanye and adidas so that's an interesting play there were you disappointed with
00:37:23.480
anything uh with president trump and how his term ended do you think there's anything he could have
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done better a lot of people are mad at him uh after the fact of course about how he pushed
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vaccines about how he gave people false hope that he didn't actually lose and that he wasn't actually
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going to be taken out of office is there anything that you can look back and say that you hope he
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does better if he were to win again well yeah i mean a lot of people were disappointed with a lot
00:37:50.200
of things i certainly don't agree with his push for the vaccine um but the way i look at it i you know
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going back to what i was saying you know it's taken a hundred years for america to get to where
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it's at today so to to put the blame on president trump that he didn't do enough in the four years
00:38:09.560
that he had to do with you know with with unrelenting attacks on him and his family i think it's unfair
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to put that on him because this is something that has taken a hundred years and the reason why it's
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happened this way is because christians and conservatives did nothing for the last hundred
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years you know it's been it's been apathy nobody's been doing anything and then trump comes in
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you know with boldness and stands up to a lot of this stuff and does the best that he could in the
00:38:38.280
four years that he had and everybody all of a sudden expects that he should have done more in the four
00:38:43.720
years uh you know more to dismantle all of this you know this is something that may take decades to
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dismantle because this is something that you know this is a plan that has been in motion by the left
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for the last hundred years so it's not something that's going to happen overnight so i think we need
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to have grace for him um i think we need to appreciate all the stuff that he was able to accomplish
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because he did do a lot despite having unrelenting attacks against him so i just try to keep a positive
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view of president trump and just um you know just be grateful for the little that he was
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you know i i don't think it's a little but you know for the stuff that he was able to achieve and
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if anything one of his greatest accomplishments was waking people up you know just having him as
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president you know has um caused the left to basically take their mask off because their power
00:39:36.440
before this was the fact that they were able to do this in a stealth way in a way that was very
00:39:42.040
undetectable but in their desperation to get rid of trump you know they took away the mask they threw it off
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and now we know the media is completely fake you know everybody can see it now because they were
00:39:53.640
forced to be openly biased and um you know downright um fraudulent in our faces so you know so that that's
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a good thing that has happened because it has caused people to see really what we're up against because
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the first step to fighting something is knowing what you're up against and we never would have known
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all these things unless president trump was in there to shake things up and actually reveal what
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was you know simmering at the bottom you know all the evil that that we're facing right now yeah i think
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it's definitely true about the border about gun issues about abortion even about voting uh in the
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veracity of of the the voting system in the united states i want to thank you for coming on melissa i had
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a great time talking with you anything else you want to say before we let you go well i just wanted to
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say that i'm actually i'm going to be starting a new show uh called reality check and uh really what
00:40:54.840
i'm going to be trying to focus on is not only educating people but motivating people to become
00:40:59.880
activated because i feel like you know we're talking a lot about the issues and the problems
00:41:04.760
but there aren't too many uh people who are talking about the solutions and how people can
00:41:09.560
get motivated and activated in their own communities on a local level and their school
00:41:15.320
boards and all these things so i'm going to be starting that show and it's uh it's called reality
00:41:21.160
check and if you're interested in in um hearing when it's going to start you can just text the word
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reality to five three four four five thanks a lot melissa the book is choice privilege you can find
00:41:35.560
it on amazon or us or on her website of course follow her on twitter half a million people on
00:41:40.120
there no joke at all thanks a lot melissa have a great day okay thank you so much for having me