ANDREW CHAPADOS | The Dutch Farmer Rebellion & The Culture War | Keean Bexte, Ian Miles Cheong, Casey Rocket | Andrew Says 81
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In this episode of A Very Special Andrew Says, we talk to Kian Bexty, a reporter from the Netherlands, about the massive anti-farmer protest that's going on across the country. We talk about the situation in the Netherlands and what's being done about it.
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welcome back to a very special andrew says every episode is very special but this one's extra
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special we've got the kian bexty live from the netherlands whereabouts are you at kian can you
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tell us i am east of amsterdam i can't pronounce a single town country so i'm not gonna uh try but
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yeah just about two hours east of amsterdam right now kian bexty the countersignal.com is where you
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can find the stuff of course and tell everybody what you're doing there there's their own version
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of a trucker rebellion going on we know you're very busy we've got you for a few minutes tractors
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blocking highways i think boats are blocking ports tell us what's going on there yeah so there's uh
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nationwide outrage after uh the prime minister of this this country uh um instituted a sweeping
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mandate to reduce nitrogen um pollution which will reduce uh farm production uh the nitrogen pollution
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they want to cut in half by 2030 which will destroy tens of thousands of good farming jobs in this
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country uh small farms will have to pack up and move to a different country if they want to stay
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in operation at all which is obviously very difficult for a farm uh so these farmers have
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taken to the streets the roads and grocery distribution centers to blockade everything
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that they can to show people what it will look like when they're not in operation anymore so those
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images i saw of the empty grocery stores those are because because of the blockades that are going on
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right now yes uh they're uh the blockades are slowly being ripped down and broken up by the police
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officers here in this country um but over the past two or three days um blockades at the border and at
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distribution centers have caused grocery stores to run out of stock in many places have you gotten a
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chance to speak to any any of the protesters yet and what are they saying um so far i'm yet i've yet to
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speak with someone in person who can speak english um the ones that i have been speaking to online have
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slowly disappeared over time uh over the last couple hours um six to six to ten hours they have just
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gone dark and i'm not sure exactly why that is if they've been arrested by the police or what i
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hopefully will get an answer on that soon um but the police have made a lot of arrests over the last
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little while here so uh once they get bailed out and are able to speak to the media again we'll see
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exactly what happened kian as you're aware and as you covered we saw a lot of this commercial
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stoppages in canada earlier this year coot and the ontario michigan border um or new york border
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excuse me and do you what's your opinion on this do you think that at some point the citizens have
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to step up and say enough or do you think that you know blocking a border for example or blocking
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these commercial motorways is unnecessary do you think people should be hitting the voting booths
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instead to make sure that their politicians don't institute things that you know put in these
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carbon initiatives how do you feel about that position i'm not going to say what they they
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should or shouldn't do i'm just here to share their story uh fairly because mainstream media isn't doing
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that you you know as well as i do they didn't do it for the canadians and they're not doing it
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for these farmers either uh what i do see is a very similar sentiment between those protesters and these
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protesters they're saying very similar things they're frustrated with uh globalist policy that's
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been dictated by the world economic forum by klaus schwab they're frustrated by these liberal elites
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from the big cities deciding uh how they can manage their business if they're even allowed to do business
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as you remember the convoy uh in canada they were being shut down they were told they had to
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uh turn off turn turn the keys off and step away from their trucks if they were unvaccinated
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and the same thing is happening here you you'll you'll remember i i think it was um maybe it was
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ezra actually they that was saying you know right now it was vaccine mandates soon it's going to be
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climate mandates and that's exactly what's happening here it's climate mandates they say they need to
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reduce nitrogen pollution by a certain amount so you're allowed to farm you're allowed to farm but
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not you not you not you not you and those people are really frustrated by that obviously these
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are generational farms farms that have been operating since before world war one uh for for generations
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and generations and this liberal uh globalist prime minister root is saying nope time to pack it in
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uh you're done and that's not acceptable to a lot of these people kean i think you're the first guy
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there in any of the real like western media what made you decide to to jump on this and go so quickly
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much like we sent avia mini and lewis brackpool to switzerland did you just sort of feel like this was
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going to be a thing where people weren't going to cover it properly or honestly in the mainstream
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media so you thought i better get there quickly before anybody else you know puts another like
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basically controls the narrative sort of thing and that way you can get the truth out before people
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have a chance to do that yeah i had uh i put out a tweet showing their border blockades and uh i didn't
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really think much of it tweeted it out went to sleep woke up the next morning and it had exploded it was
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retweeted like 20 000 times and i was like what what is this i had hardly even heard about it uh until i
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tweeted about it but i saw that there was a huge amount of interest in the story and all the replies
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were like thank you for sharing this we didn't know this was happening the mainstream media didn't tell
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us that this was happening uh the cbc is not here the bbc is not here they're leaving it to a corrupt
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local media to uh to shut down these farmers to label them as extremists uh but it's not extreme
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to want to keep your farm it's not extreme to want to keep a job so you know when i saw that response i
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knew you know a good story for us uh there's a few parts to it but the main part of it is that people
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are desperately interested to know what's going on and the second part is the mainstream media
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is purposefully ignoring it or maliciously lying about that and uh everything sort of crossed over
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perfectly here so that's why i decided to come out it was it was tough to get here um you need to be
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vaccinated and boosted to get into this country but luckily the canadian embassy saw fit to grant me
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uh it's a weird diplomatic document but they they granted me access to the country to do this
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journalism which i appreciate i don't think justin trudeau would have done that for other people
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during the freedom convoy but i guess that's the one positive that i've seen from this government so
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far now do you predict anything when you come back to canada you were notoriously put in the the
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covet hotels upon your return here from a reporting trip do you predict any trouble given to you
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and follow-up question to that and then i'll let you go have you thought about leaving canada yet
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i know there's a lot of people who are doing reporting a lot of or sorry doing a lot of
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reporting around the world who are going and visiting to cover stories places and they don't
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want to come back to canada because you know we still have all these rules in place even this far
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down the line we're up there with like china and north korea and such and it's going to at least
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september still have you thought about any of that do you think anything's going to happen when you
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come back or have you thought about you know becoming this person who reports abroad permanently
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you know i don't want to leave i would leave canada but i wouldn't want to leave alberta
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um it's too nice of a place i mean the netherlands great it was nice getting off their canada flight
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because even while we were in the airport nobody was wearing a mask um planes leaving planes coming
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nobody's wearing a mask the only people that are wearing a mask uh and they look like a bunch of
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just government i i probably shouldn't swear on the program you can say they uh you know there's
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canadians get off planes and they're wearing masks they look like a bunch of idiots you know nobody's
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wearing them anymore because they know that they're not effective not in airports not in planes unless
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you're canadian on an air canada or or west jet flight so you know it's embarrassing really but
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uh you know i think alberta has a lot a lot worth uh alberta's a great place i wouldn't want to leave
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it i might leave every now and then to cover things like this but i'm not all right key and bexy the
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countersignal.com you're really killing it out there good sir um i applaud you i think everybody's
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noticed that your journalistic instinct on this one is correct and you're going to be leading the
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story and uh just like things that happened in ottawa and coots and windsor and stuff everybody's
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got to spearhead it just like it happens in in the u.s for these riots and everything and i think
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you'll do a great job doing it thanks for joining us kian anything else you want to say i would be
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remiss if i didn't mention where people could see the coverage it is at the countersignal.com but you
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could also go to dutch uprising.com to check out it's just a breakdown of all the stories that we've put
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out while i'm here so uh be great to go check that out and uh let's stay in touch
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all right thanks a lot key and have a good one stay safe okay
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joining me now writer extraordinary ian miles chong and comedian this guy's so funny casey
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rocket who i think is from texas or are you from somewhere else and when i saw you you were in texas
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uh i'm from atlanta georgia yeah i'm from atlanta so yeah how would you describe yourself casey as a
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comedian very spastic um energetic uh-huh yeah that sounds about right yeah it sounds good to me
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yeah energetic we'll throw up some energy yeah he i just i don't know so it's on this show for
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those who don't know called kill tony it's a podcast where they have stand-up comedians come
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up and do a minute and casey is known around there and he was just so like some people you fast forward
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through other people you watch only uh some parts of them but it's just so funny just so wild up there
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and i want to get into i want to bring them on to get them into the ecosystem of you know hard
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hitting politics um so the first thing i want to talk to you guys about was we're seeing a lot of
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stuff right now um that i want to mention from female celebrities starting to talk about how you
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know how there's a lot of issues around transgender things and how uh they they're they're kind of tired
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of this whole um idea that their spaces can be taken usually athletics is what comes up first
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and i wrote down bet midler was one and she's usually you know a little bit uh a little bit out
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there and now even she's saying that you you can't be taking away women's spaces you had this
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uh form people probably don't remember macy gray but maybe they do she was on piers morgan
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talking about how you can't just get surgeries and become a woman it's a whole experience
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ian i'll start with you do you think this is a whole like do you think this is going to snowball
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or do you think this is just people getting the the voices they want out there to be elevated in this
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you know sort of argument or do you think we're sort of seeing a trend in this direction
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who wants to go first i guess i should go first since the camera's on me well i think that people
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are finally standing up they're seeing other people do it obviously you know you have people
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like jordan peterson ben shapiro uh and us obviously uh coming out uh talking about these
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things and you know for the longest time maybe for years now we've been uh slandered defamed as
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transphobes as bigots because we were not you know fully embracing the uh the pluses in the lgbtq plus
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ideology right now you know it's quite clear that women's spaces are being invaded and you know it's it's
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it's all well and good to say that women need empowerment and certainly they do there's been a
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glass ceiling for the longest time but decades maybe even centuries and no one's going to deny
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that you know up until say the 21st century women have taken a back seat when it comes to
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well literally everything right i mean women's achievements have been marginalized in science
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and education and so on now you know you're finally getting that recognition and despite the advances
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that have been made uh you have you know it's like the activists and i'm not talking about you know
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suffragettes or feminists and say the 1960s sort of 50s but rather the activists nowadays have sort of
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run out of things to uh to promote so they're promoting uh transgenderism they're promoting
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this drag queen story hour stuff and you know they're promoting bdsm and kink as sort of lifestyles
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and identities and they're pushing the boundaries to the point where it's making a lot of uh people
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in the center right people in the center left it's becoming very uncomfortable for them because you're
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seeing what's happening to people like say jk rowling who was probably one of the largest names the
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biggest names to speak out against this and she's being attacked left and right she's faced death
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threats i mean this past week alone somebody threatened to send her a pipe bomb uh put her
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address online encouraging other people to do so and they're tired of it they're speaking up and
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they're speaking out and it's good to see more women doing this especially high profile names like
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macy gray you know i mean she used to be big ones upon a time but we're seeing more and more as even
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bett middler of all people came out this weekend to condemn this erasure of women i mean you don't
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see men being referred to as a penis havers or ejaculators right i mean there's no funny uh term for
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men right men are just called men whereas women are called things like uterus havers or or uh baby
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making machines i mean you might as well just call them baby making machines at this one it's
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misogynistic and yet that is somehow the politically correct way to define a woman when you have like
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politicians like elizabeth warren and alexandria ocasio-cortez saying women and uterus havers
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it's like what are you doing you know they're stop calling them that they're just women just women
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just keep it simple casey do you think there's a pressure in entertainment industry to sort of go
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with whatever is the majority opinion basically on mainstream news and social media and everything
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or do you think there's more of a leniency now to people who just want to have their own opinion
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no matter how wild that may be um uh a pressure in what sense to be like politically correct is
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that what you're asking uh yeah in some ways but in you know and stand up and things like that it's
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sort of its own little little bubble you know i mean as far as like there's a lot of things that just
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don't really leak into the end of the stand-up world you know i think it's one of the last places
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where people kind of don't really worry about the things that they're saying as much i think uh
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pc culture and things like that don't really affect stand-up as much as people think they do
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um uh you know i don't know man if i'm really the right person to be asking
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about any of this i kind of just go on stage and talk about drinking robot testing and stuff so i'm
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not i'm not i'm not quite sure how well first i am this is why you're here to make me seem funnier
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to make my program seem funnier um do you does any of that i guess you kind of answered it but does
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any of that stuff sort of like leak into people and i know it happens in here here in toronto maybe
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it doesn't happen as much in georgia and texas uh the comedians i talked to here say it happens
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where it sort of leaks in where people don't want you to tell jokes about certain things
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but if i'm hearing you correctly you're saying it it doesn't really take an effect on comedians
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in in your area at least where you feel pressured to not tell jokes about certain things
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oh it's not uh texas is really really weird texas is uh yeah the comedians really don't care
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what uh in other parts of the country so i lived in boise idaho for a while
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wow and you would think uh idaho is a really you i you would think it was a liberal place but it's
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really really conservative so in that place yeah there was a lot of things you couldn't joke about
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um a lot of things but in texas you'd be shocked with some of the people talk about any given open
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mic it's like a free for all so it really there's certain areas where that happens seattle is really
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conservative as far as material you can talk about and you'll get like blacklisted if you talk about
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certain things but not in texas no we all talk about you know whatever man freaking putting vicodin in
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your dick hole dude it's a good time uh i don't know so you live in texas now yeah and did you yeah i live
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in austin yeah i've lived all over the place did you move out there for the whole comedian boom or
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were you already there no i moved out here for the boom i lived in my car for a while i i uh i lived in
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a i was in idaho so i'm from georgia and i moved out here like a year ago and yeah for the whole boom
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uh joe rogan's club and everything which hasn't opened yet but yeah there's just a lot of comics moved
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out here and stuff like that it's it's like the wild west right now it's a free for all out here
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it's really fun a lot of crazy stuff going on but uh yeah i think most people if they spend a couple
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days at open mics they would be shocked that uh the pc culture really doesn't that whole argument
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really is not hardly affecting anything right now well i'm glad to hear it it's not true in new york
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city where you know if you make jokes like that or even in miami i know a couple of uh comedians in
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miami like esther coo you should have her on the show by the way uh they can get canceled they can
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literally get canceled for talking about trans issues if they talk about you know uh the former
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the actress formerly known as ellen page who is now elliot page if you make a joke about elliot page
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then you're screwed you know i mean all they have to do is post uh some of your material on social media
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and you're getting blacklisted from the clubs and it's it's that bad in some places unfortunately
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yeah let's talk about that um dave rubin or jordan peterson got suspended from twitter for referring
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to ellen page as elliot page and then dave rubin got suspended for saying that jordan peterson got
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suspended even though he didn't mention the name elliot page we're dead naming here this is very serious
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offense on twitter i think that is genocide ian i thought we were getting i thought we were getting
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away from this with the whole elon thing i thought things were supposed to be getting better on twitter
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i mean he hasn't taken the company over yet for the first uh you know first month i would say
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i definitely saw huge growth uh on my platform a lot of people did i think when twitter started uh you
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know scaling back on its moderation policies but i see that twitter's back to its old you know its old
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roots and it started banning people again suspending people again for just uh minor infractions and so
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you know it's kind of hard to tell what's really going on at twitter i hope that the uh the deal
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has not fallen through i hope that you know he like he has expressed that he will be going through
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with it it's just taking a lot of time right so i think we're just gonna have to wait and see what
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really happens but for the time being now it looks like twitter's back to enforcing it's very strict uh
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i wouldn't say strict right it's very one-sided uh speech policies that prevent you from dead naming
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or misgendering i mean you can totally celebrate uh sending a pipe bomb to jk rowling that's not
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going to get you banned but the instant you dead name someone that that's it for you you know your
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account is getting locked casey how much of an emphasis are comics using or putting on social
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media these days i don't see nearly i don't see nearly as many on twitter anymore i mean ryan long just
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got uh deleted off of tiktok i believe and i don't think he puts anything worse out there than
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anybody else does is there do you still think there's a big reliance on social media to get your
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your act out there even if it's in these short clips like on instagram and stuff oh yeah yeah it's
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it's a big thing yeah but comedy's in a weird place where there's no one way to to make it anymore you
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know used to be like johnny carson uh things like that like if you get on late night you're good like
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you can make a career but now you kind of have to build your fans slowly one by one on social media
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so yeah it is a big platform so if you were to get taken off of it for doing something like you know
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saying something that would be highly detrimental to your to your career especially in the beginning
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so yeah yeah it's a big deal uh tiktok things like that youtube youtube.com uh youtube.com
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yeah big youtube.com haven't heard of that one yet did you say babylon b got banned from uh tiktok
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unceremoniously not even given an explanation for why they were banned yeah they were banned a few like
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last week yeah last week well speaking of uh banning on banning i was reading earlier
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that uh spotify of course they had the whole joe rogan fiasco and um the the musicians crosby
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stills and nash and i believe uh neil young separately um they all went off of it but now
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they're back they've i guess not so silently snuck back on and what i wanted to ask you casey is do you
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think that it's the place of these platforms to determine who and who shouldn't be on here
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entertainment wise i mean r kelly's never been kicked off spotify i want to point that out
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um despite everything over the years but i see musicians uh having songs deleted and all these
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obviously these musicians um and they're legends they want to see these platforms do something
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in their opinion like kick off joe rogan was the demand essentially do you think it's the place
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of like spotify and twitter and instagram to determine which entertainment is safe and which isn't
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no absolutely not but you know crosby stills and nash fucking sucks so you can take them off uh
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just kidding they're fine but yeah it's like lame boy music the sad boy music i'm just kidding i
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like it uh uh yeah man whatever i yeah i definitely think that's a yeah that's an injustice what
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why did they take them off crosby stills and that oh they left because spotify didn't oh they
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yes yes yes now they're back what a bunch of cucks yeah a bunch of beta cucks man unbelievable
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and joni mitchell left too right some other people i've seen this happen yeah yeah that's weird man
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i don't think that's the right response i think also if people you know i don't know i don't know
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i'll leave it at that but yeah i think it's a that's a stupid response you know freedom of speech
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and all that is that a david bowie poster what he wants yeah david bowie's hanging out back there
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freaking chief and a damn big cigarette yeah a lot of fun stuff in here scatman john's back there
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you see a little scatman i love scatman john yeah i'm very familiar with scatman john i don't see it
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where is it it's a bit below his finger right there okay i see it now that's a very odd way to point
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just below my finger i know i was trying to figure out directionally on the camera how it was
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working but casey who do people say that your act or your personality remind them of as we look at
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your torso um i just fucking pat my belly man i don't know dude i hear a lot of a lot of things
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a lot of people say theo vaughn but i don't think i'm that close to theo vaughn i love
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no there's not enough twang in your voice yeah yeah i agree yeah i'm yeah i met him a couple
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months ago did a show with him he was really nice but yeah that eric andre people say eric andre
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um i like brody stevens a lot who was an la comic so i think i would be most like him but i don't know
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man i'm just trying to do my thing freaking talk about damn jar jar binks have fun with boys talk about
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scrappy do a little bit what's the jar jar binks joke unless that was just made up right now
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uh most of the things i do don't really have a joke it's just me i'll talk about a little bit
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let's talk about jar jar that's what we'll put it on screen right now of casey rocket just running
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across the stage back and forth which was a lot of his act which was hilarious i'm not gonna lie and
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that's why i'm such a big fan now ian let's talk about let's transition hard and quick to inflation
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right that's what they're calling it nowadays putin's price like i mean apparently putin's in
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charge of the u.s economy and not biden you know biden has zero control over what happens but putin
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oh yeah is 100 in charge of the u.s economy well let's talk about it what i wanted to bring up was
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this new uh thing they're gonna do in california is they're gonna print more money to counter
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inflation which doesn't make any sense to me they're gonna give people upwards of a thousand
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and fifty dollars a month as a countering to inflation that's that is as simple as i think
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it is as stupid as i think well that's not entirely correct because california doesn't print its own
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money right yes i know yeah the money comes from the fed which obviously prints money they got a
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money printing machine and jerome powell is just crying blood as he prints more money that biden
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asks him to but yeah like i mean okay just california alone right it's it has a surplus in its budget
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because its taxes are so goddamn high so they tax people so much and then they're giving people back
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like a like a third of the taxes that they pay so that they can survive i mean why not just lower
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your taxes that would easily end the problem there but somehow or other you know california likes having
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a massive budget that likes having all that on the sheets and they get to seem like they're benevolent
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right that's what governor newsom likes to think of himself as he's the king and you're a bunch of
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peasants who should be grateful for his assistance and his support and this is easily i would say you
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know an example of how the democrats in particular try to normalize the um the nanny state essentially
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they're saying you depend on the government but we're going to take all of your money all of your
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earnings 50 percent we're going to take all of it and then we're going to give you 10 percent back
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aren't we good people you know why don't you vote for us more we're going to give you more money maybe
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next time you'll get 11 percent and that's what california is doing and obviously it's not really
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going to help inflation not on a nationwide level i mean the problems with inflation and supply chain
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shortages are systemic this is largely because of biden's own policies i mean what's the first thing
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he did when he stepped into office the first executive order that he signed or at least one of the first
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ones was to uh in the uh the pipeline right the keystone xl pipeline extension that was going to
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bridge canada and america and you know uh provide lots and lots and lots of oil this is something
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that was done under trump you know obama before him suspended it and biden suspended it and one of
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the campaign promises that he made and i would say i would argue that he has kept was that americans
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are not going to be able to drill anymore because he hates the oil industry he is fully bought into this
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whole green energy transition which by the way requires america to buy solar power panels from
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china using chinese equipment and chinese solar panels and chinese oil of course but you know to
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hell of american industry right so that's his policy and obviously like i said the problem systemic with
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the supply chain shortages there's a million different problems in all these different states
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particularly california the ports are uh you know clogged because of and uh of pro-union rules and you
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know it'll take me hours to get into that so i'll just say that the problem is definitely a local
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issue that's not being addressed i mean did you know that america doesn't really have a sort of uh
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a collective system that allows all these different ports and ships to communicate with each other like
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in other countries say turkey or uh netherlands which all rely on uh freight travel right on on port
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and trading they have like a a centralized system that enables them to communicate their logistics
00:28:52.220
america doesn't have such a system and instead of developing systems like that they're not
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interested in doing any of it and so now they're wondering why is everything you know clogged why
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there are not enough workers is it anti-union rules or pro-union rules that are causing this
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definitely you know it's it's a it's a blockading of russian ships which provide crude oil that is
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used by the american oil industry to refine oil they don't have any access to that anymore instead
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of having to import it from china which imports it from russia and it's like you're making these
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countries richer while you're bankrupting yourselves and then you're putting more and more
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restrictions on russia and then saying it's putin's fault that this is putin's price hike
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it's ridiculous nobody buys it nobody industry buys it jerome powell doesn't buy it but you know
00:29:30.240
biden just goes on stage and he just keeps repeating the same lies over and over and what did he do last
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weekend he said that people who own these uh uh gas retailers you know like the gas stations they need
00:29:40.820
to reduce the prices never mind the fact that they're making you know like very little on the
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margins when it comes to profit like it's a kind of a loss leader really i mean most of the money
00:29:49.100
that they make comes from selling groceries from drinks you know it's not from the oil so this ask
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is ridiculous this guy you know he's just out of control and watching uh america's economy just go
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to hell like this even though there's a million experts telling you do the opposite of this he's
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like no we're going to stick to the green energy plan and we're going to keep blaming everybody
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but ourselves because our policies are going to work just trust it don't question it
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casey you're wearing a pearl necklace how is the economy hitting you
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well well buddy as you can see times are good i'm fucking i'm flourishing i got a i got a damn
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treasure chest full of gold bouillon and little little teeny tiny pearls i prefer the small ones
00:30:30.360
so i can eat them after i get tired of them um they slide right down your throat as a counterpoint
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i wanted to go ahead and show you this this is a this is a picture um my grandma made me a pillow
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and it's me and my cousin max and uh uh this i sleep with this on my bed every night it's me and
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my pearls and uh my cousin max he goes by max wax on sound class he's a great guy and that's just
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that's that i just want to show you that but um he's not dead or anything he's alive it's just me
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him hanging out all right um inflation is such a big it's so big this time of year um
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i don't know i don't know we're gonna go i know i know 40 years we're gonna we're gonna go behind
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the paywall that was just me throwing casey to the wolves back to me olivia rebelnewsplus.com
00:31:26.740
everybody we're gonna go for one more segment behind the paywall with casey rocket and ian miles
00:31:31.620
and chong all three of him and we're gonna talk about haters and hecklers and our one of our
00:31:35.920
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including this one and all the extra segments see you there casey is heckling i feel like it's it's
00:31:51.780
not around as much you used to see how much um people would profit quote unquote off youtube videos
00:31:57.000
of hecklers joe rogan uh made it famous for a while carlos mencia all that stuff that happened
00:32:02.860
i do see david lucas putting up videos of hecklers a bit but has it overall since you've been in the
00:32:08.160
game gotten worse gotten better are people learning their lesson about that they're going to be on
00:32:12.520
youtube if they're hecklers or does the drunk person in the audience just not care
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yeah i think it's a i think it's always been there i think it's something that will always be
00:32:22.700
there i do think it is getting a little worse but you know there's certain nights where you know
00:32:28.660
there's going to be hecklers if you're doing a late show thursday friday saturday particularly
00:32:33.600
saturdays like if you're doing a 10 p.m or an 11 p.m show there's going to be people who shout
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shit out yeah i don't think it's going the opposite way i don't think people are being quieter if anything
00:32:45.740
i think it's getting worse why do you think that is i i don't know i think people are
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i don't know they see it like in the news and they see it in videos and they think that it's
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something that happens so why not like why can't they do it um i yeah they want to be a part of it
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and they think that yeah i've even i've seen some joe rogan shows like at vulcan here in austin and
00:33:15.620
hill still you know sometimes people yell stuff at him which is completely wild that's such a wild
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thing to do yeah some woman i never get heckled because i mostly just you know whatever dude i'm
00:33:26.920
up there talking about grimace and stuff fucking grimace let's pause there because that was one
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of the funniest one of the funniest and we'll throw this clip up i know we're just going to be throwing
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up a lot of his clips but casey just has a picture of grimace with him and i hope i'm not blowing up
00:33:45.200
your set here what he does no you're good carried around a picture of grimace wasn't even going to
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mention it until it was brought up by the hosts oh my god anyways you were saying yeah i have a
00:33:57.860
bunch of no that's the thing like i'm kind of i consider myself to be an absurdist so nobody ever
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shouts stuff at me because what would they even shout like there's no you know i'm in my own little
00:34:09.920
world but yeah lately the past couple months yeah people people will even heckle little old casey
00:34:14.620
rocket with my freaking stinky little nipples and my pictures of grimace it's truly hitting home for
00:34:20.520
me in ways i've never imagined truly perfect ian you'll know better than me about twitter
00:34:27.240
like morons i feel like it's gotten lesser like there's not even people anybody making any attempt
00:34:34.400
at arguments anymore i mean one person today i'll give you an example set tried to make fun of me by
00:34:40.040
saying i'm not on basic cable which there are no canadian news channels on basic cable and they
00:34:45.340
thought that was an insult is it getting same to you basically and is it getting better or worse the
00:34:49.780
same how do you feel about it because i know you get a lot of guff where i don't think that it's i get
00:34:54.620
a lot of haters yeah so i would say that you know a lot of people make the mistake of arguing with
00:35:00.860
extremists and if you go by uh the bayesian equation you know why am i bringing up mathematics
00:35:06.820
but yeah the bayesian equation just stick with me here okay so it says something like you know 99
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percent of time you're going to meet someone who's like in the middle right somebody you can have a
00:35:15.620
an argument with a discussion with that you can convince because they're not zero percent or a hundred
00:35:20.300
percent on any given situation and in those conversations you can very easily have a normal
00:35:25.900
conversation however there are people who are extremists who you know you cannot change their mind
00:35:30.820
one way or another like some people uh completely oppose the idea of abortion just zero percent
00:35:36.180
abortion and other people are saying a hundred percent abortion you should have abortions at you
00:35:40.800
know at elective like elective abortions up to nine months and there's no way to convince them
00:35:45.080
otherwise don't have conversations with these people it's pointless you're not going to be uh making
00:35:50.760
any inroads you're basically at that point you're just speaking to a wall you're you're speaking
00:35:55.120
to them uh for the purpose of being performative and that's i feel like a lot of twitter
00:35:59.920
becomes that when you're quote tweeting someone that you know is a hundred percent or zero percent
00:36:04.880
on a certain issue uh say a political topic then you know for a fact that you can dunk on them
00:36:09.980
completely and don't you won't feel any remorse for it because you know that they are not going to be
00:36:14.520
convinced they're not interested in being convinced so you're just there to use them as a foil to make
00:36:19.340
it to make your argument to your audience and that's what i do generally a lot of influencers i believe do
00:36:25.420
that where they they take the most extreme possible um example and use that uh that person as a foil
00:36:32.860
to promote themselves and i think that's good social media practice if you're an influencer
00:36:37.480
however i won't say it's healthy it's definitely not healthy but the discourse because by doing that
00:36:41.980
you're making it seem as if every single person on the other side is an extremist and i feel like a lot
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of people do this uh this is why social media in general not just twitter not just facebook but also
00:36:53.380
youtube instagram tiktok we have a tendency the influencers have a tendency to do this because
00:36:58.240
it's popular it's sensationalistic but it's not healthy and that's why i feel like if anything
00:37:03.260
everything is just getting worse just a lot worse there's nothing healthy about it and i feel like
00:37:07.440
twitter as a medium which only allows for 280 characters previous it's 140 which is even worse
00:37:12.340
only permits people to have these kinds of short-form conversations where you are rewarded for being
00:37:18.900
pithy you're not rewarded for being uh overly you know if you have to over explain everything then
00:37:24.260
you've lost and twitter does not reward you for having long-form explanations it rewards you for
00:37:29.940
being smart quick and witty and it's as a result of that it's people having sword fights insult sword
00:37:35.660
fights so to speak so definitely getting worse in that regard although i will say uh it's it's comedy
00:37:40.520
for a lot of people it's definitely comedy for me it's a clown world just logging on to twitter
00:37:44.220
and seeing the funniest takes you know people just burning each other left and right it's it's just
00:37:48.960
funny to me yeah the wise words of ian miles strong casey rocket final words to you let everybody know
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where to find you um uh yeah you can find you can find me on uh i just wanted to slip into something a
00:38:08.920
little more comfortable uh you can find me on a page patreon.com backslash casey rocket i have a
00:38:16.600
bunch of fun stand-up videos on there and instagram casey rocket and youtube all right thanks for
00:38:24.000
joining us yeah so just casey rocket thanks for having me ian miles chong still gray on everything
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i believe catch him on rebel news catch him on all tons of websites and twitter extraordinary full
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screen on casey please before we go let's give you 30 seconds to do whatever you want casey before
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we get out of here this is one of my favorite gourds that i have in my entire room as many of you know
00:38:46.580
i have two boards and i keep this gourd by my bed because it has a little bit of black mold on it so i feel
00:38:54.480
like it's making me stronger building the anti-bottom and this is an empty uh thing of garlic salt i keep
00:39:01.020
by my back to you keep away vampire they cannot tell this they can't stand the smell of vampire this
00:39:07.060
is one of my favorite movies from dusk till dawn also about that movie by the way that movie's about
00:39:16.040
um and and lastly just be be kind to each other guys just be to one another i love you have a good
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night i love you all right thanks casey thanks ian yeah absolutely andrew says everybody never a
00:39:33.040
dull moment with the gourds dusk till dawn 2 not very good all right no it's not it's bad