ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ The Evolution of Ryan Long
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Summary
Ryan Long is a stand-up comedian, writer, and podcaster. He's probably your favorite political commentator's favorite comedian, and he's performing in Toronto on December 16th and 17th. In this episode, Ryan talks about what it's like being a black comedian in a white, male-dominated world, and why he thinks it's a good idea to have a black roommate.
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A lot of people will say that women are crazy, for example,
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but do you think that's just a problem where we put too much stigma on the word crazy
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and if we made crazy a positive thing, it wouldn't be so bad?
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If when you're in a relationship, what are some of the techniques that you'll use to, like,
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nag the guy so we can look out for those as men?
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I don't know. Just lower his self-esteem, I guess.
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When me and Brad first met, I didn't think we'd get along,
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but it turns out we kind of agree on everything.
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Your racial identity is the most important thing.
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Everything should be looked at through the lens of race.
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We both have a lot of opinions about people of color, even though we barely know any.
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I say colored people, but as long as we're classifying them,
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we both think minorities are a united group who think the same and act the same.
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Monday morning, I woke up to the news that I'm being let go from my position at Vice magazine,
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and this comes after years of dedicating my life to writing articles like
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And a modest take on why men terrorize women with poop.
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So my nephew, we're pretty sure that he's trans because he's always like crying and
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What age is it okay to just start transitioning?
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Ryan Long is a stand-up and sketch comedy performer.
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He's probably your political commentator's favorite comedian.
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He's performing in Toronto on December 16th and 17th.
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Well, I hope we can stop by the show when you come in and see how you're doing there.
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Last time I talked to you, I think a few weeks ago, you were in Texas for a couple of
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I haven't been to Canada in a while, but New York's pretty much back to normal right now.
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I'll tell you one thing that makes me laugh about going to Texas and those places.
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I think people like New York and L.A. forget how much people in other places hate New York
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But you go to those places and you go, oh, we're in New York.
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Well, people still think that Canada's got this thing about it where we've got everything
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I'm reading a bunch of stuff about Canada throwing out, like recently, one of our members
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of provincial parliament got thrown out for not staying at home for 90 days after testing
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positive for COVID, even though she presented a negative test.
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And you just read all the comments like, good, they're doing good stuff up there.
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And people still have this aura about Canada where it's, you know, really sensible and everything's
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So maybe that's a little bit different than how people see New York.
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I mean, as far as like the COVID stuff goes, I've been getting yelled at by both sides
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But like there's a part of me, even when they were doing the lockdowns, they go, oh, you're
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And I'm like, I mean, you can make it a gathering of one because I'm not obeying any of this
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So I guess, you know, the people have to get the vaccine for their job.
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But as far as most of the stuff goes, I've no, even like peak COVID in New York, they
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go, you know, people aren't allowed to leave your house.
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And you're like, yeah, there's like nine raves happening on this street alone.
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So, you know, no one was obeying any of this stuff.
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I mean, I went back to Canada last winter and everyone was, you know, doing stuff.
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So, I mean, you know, some people are safe and some people aren't.
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But as far as the actual, a lot of this stuff probably is more of like an internet argument
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Well, in Alberta, you're not supposed to, if you're unvaccinated, you're not supposed to
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meet together at all, only in your own household.
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You're not allowed to meet privately with another unvaccinated person.
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But I'm guessing that a lot of people don't actually follow that.
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Because I see on the news, it'll be always like, you know, this guy tried to go get a
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bucket of KFC and the cops are, you know, they put him in a headlock, you know, he's
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But then I talked to my friends and who actually live there and they're like, that's one place
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and like 90% of it's, I don't know, but I don't know what to believe.
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Because I mean, I'll tell you what, even being here, there's so many things where about Canada
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that people will be like, oh, Canada, if you want to go to, if you want to get like, if
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you break your arm, you have to wait like, you know, three and a half years to get your
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And you go, I wasn't like that when I was there.
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I wanted to ask you about how in your videos, in your sketches, I'm guessing people sort
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of think they know what your views are just by based on your videos.
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So either you're coming across how you really are in your videos, or you're just way more
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clever than the rest of us and just exactly sort of know what people want to hear.
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Do people tend to assume your views before they speak to you and when they meet you, is
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Because there's, you know, I do so much videos.
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Yeah, you will get both, both different people of all different things.
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If you make fun of their thing, they go, you know, all this guy's, but I feel like that's
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There was a moment where there was a real, real, you know, you got to pick a side and
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you got to stand up and be on part of one of these teams.
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So I think that when the mainstream was very, very, you know, very much like on one of those
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teams, just saying like, hey, I'm not like participating, both these teams are lame.
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Just saying that was, you know, an endorsement tacitly of the wrong team as far as like some
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So, and then, you know, and then some people start to like you and then once they like you,
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they're like, yeah, but I want you to think all the things that I think.
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So, I mean, at the end of the day, it's always going to keep changing.
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Who's telling you what you can think and what you can say.
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And a lot of people are sort of thinking that now, I feel like that both sides are sort of
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failing no matter how much you give them power, no matter how much support you give them.
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And I think a lot of people are sort of waking up to this theory that we just vote in the
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I'm like a, yeah, that's, I mean, that's always like comedy is just like this tiny little
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So, it's like, I don't want to pretend that I'm doing something more important than it
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is, but it is really, it's like, yeah, it's something that I feel like we were kind of
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saying or me and my little crew of friends, we were saying like, you know, four or five
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years ago and then, you know, kind of got popular doing it in America a year and a half,
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Or you were, you're watching like everyone else say that and you're like, yeah, I mean,
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this is the stuff that, you know, everyone was yelling at us for saying, and now everyone's
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Like you guys were all, I would say they're all, it's like a lot of people arguing over
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And you're kind of like, dude, it doesn't, who cares?
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So, I think that a lot of people got really wrapped up in it.
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And then now that, you know, the Trump era is over, people are like coming out of the
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fog and going back to their like normal person, trying to be the normal person that they used
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Everyone's like, yeah, we got a little carried away there.
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I want to ask you, what kind of inspiration are you drawing from your sketches?
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Are you just, are you and the guys just in the writing room all day?
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Are we watching the CNN and the Foxes to get our, you know, talking points that you want
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I think, no, so I just write the sketches and I do one a week and then I do like a street
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interview most weeks and I do a podcast every week and then I just stand up like at least
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So, I don't know, I try, I honestly just sit down and write like a lot.
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So, a lot of times I'll get something in my head and then I can't get it out.
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So, I just did another right left one that was making me laugh.
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I did like a sponsor thing because if you look at the left wing sponsors, it'll all be
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these like tiny podcasts and it'll be like, hey, brought to you by Netflix studios and
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it'll be kind of like the communist hour brought to you by Amazon and they have these huge,
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you know, it's like there's, there's these huge, super, you know, essentially like communist
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streamers that are, you know, making these enormous deals with like ad deals with Microsoft
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And then the right wing people, it's like these enormous podcasts that have, you know,
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a million listeners and they're just like selling like bunker vitamins and like Patriot
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And it's like, it's just water for people who love America.
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And then, and then, uh, yeah, that was the black rifle thing too.
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I remember we were doing, uh, then someone, then the coffee company, they'll denounce some
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of the people and they have to be like, I just want to say that Patriot water does not
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I just, you, that to me, like the difference between the right wing, left wing sponsors,
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which was one thing that I just had in my head forever.
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And then you kind of bump it around and then you start to write it and go, I don't know
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So I have like a hundred ideas for sketches and then a bunch of ideas for, um, street interviews
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And I just try to actually do the work and get up and fucking write for way too long.
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Is the video being relatively short on purpose, or do you just think that anything longer
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Um, there's different, there's definitely different schools of thought on that.
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Like there's, when I first started doing well on the internet, there was a million people
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that had a lot of advice for me of like, no, this is the length that they have to be, this
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is the dimension you have to put this on, you have to do that.
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And I think that I've also been making videos since I was like 15 years old and the platforms
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are always changing what they like, like even, and people's attention spans are always changing
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and what gets pushed by YouTube is always changing.
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So I think that for me, I just try to, even with the comedy and the formatting, I try to
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make what I would want to watch and what, so if it feels long to me, then I keep it short.
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And if it feels short to me, then I, you know, I'm like, maybe this one, you know, didn't,
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So I try to stick with my own sensibilities because I feel like with most things, if you
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leave your own sensibilities, then what are, then you're just kind of like grasping at
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For a long time, it was, you got to get to that 10 minute mark so you can put more commercials
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First of all, Andrew, your videos need to be 10 minutes long so you can monetize it more.
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That's what I used to hear all the time from the, uh, the, the network channel people,
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I wanted to ask, um, you're talking about pushing shorts.
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Like recently, recently they've been like, yeah, if it's under a minute, we'll push it
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Everything else shadow band, you put it under 30 seconds.
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You're, you talk about getting hate from both sides.
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Is there anybody surprising that reached out to you, whether positively or negatively that
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Well, the negative ones, I try not to, uh, like talk about them too publicly.
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Cause a part of me is like, that's giving it more a few times on my podcast.
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I'll go, I'll get into, you know, feuds with people or whatever.
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But for the most part, if it's something that like, I just try to ignore it.
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But, um, as far as people reaching out, yeah, tons of people, there's like, I gotta, there's
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a lot of like big, uh, like Hollywood people that I'll send like DMS being like, just so
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you know, you know, you're saving, like all these crazy things.
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Um, I want to take a deep dive with you into your past.
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Having, uh, looked through your YouTube channel.
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You know what, what's an interesting one is a lot of big musicians will be like, Hey,
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But I feel like if I post it, I'll get in trouble from the music community that I get
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Cause a lot of like punk dudes and like metal guys like this, but they're like, Oh, your,
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our community doesn't, you know, like when we haven't nuanced opinions rage against the
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Um, the band you were in, speaking of bands, Ryan Long, the Johnstones.
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Now, if I'm not correct, it's for you guys are from this area.
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And I wanted to ask, how did this transition into the Ryan Long of today?
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And then, uh, the funniest thing I think, and we'll play this after, um, over the top
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is the purposely bad cover of Oasis on a talk show.
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That's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
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And rocky roads will lead to where I'm winding.
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And all the lights that lead you there will blind you.
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And there's a lot of things that I would like for you to know, should you know them too?
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But how, did this like evolve into what, what it is now?
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Cause you see a lot of the same, like, you know.
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I was like, so yeah, we were, when I was like, you know, 1920, we were in this like kind of
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popular Canadian band and we were, we were doing a ton of making these like jackass kind
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of style videos and releasing all these DVDs and with a band had a podcast and we used to
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do all this kind of wild stuff and release it and make these music videos.
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And then we just used to do straight up comedy videos.
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And then that kind of eventually led to this like cable access TV show that I was doing
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And then I had a TV show called a bite at bite TV, which was like this small Canadian,
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like comedy network called Ryan long is challenged.
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And then around that time I started doing standup and then gradually kind of, I was mostly just
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And then, then like the band just kind of, that was the end of that.
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A lot of that stuff makes me think of like CKY back in the day.
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I mean, I was, I really was the first thing, like I wasn't into comedians.
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I really was into that, like messing with people on the street stuff, whether that be
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like, you know, Jamie Kenny, Tom Green was like the hugest for, I think a lot of people
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Like I was just, you know, whatever, like, even though it sounds a dorky to say, but like,
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I felt like I was kind of like a student of that stuff.
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I was trying to learn all the tricks and I was just so huge into that stuff.
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So then, um, yeah, I was, I was doing that in the TV shows and then I was doing sketches
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And then I kind of, when I moved here, I was just said, okay, I'm going to do all this
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stuff I've been doing for the last 10 years, kind of on my own channel.
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And it kind of was like well-received in America.
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A little bit more than well, Ryan, don't sell yourself short.
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Why do you think there are so few people willing to do this type of comedy these days?
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Do you, do you think it's an actual fear of, you know, being canceled?
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Um, I I've seen some news channels try to do it.
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Daily caller is one who tried to inject like sketches into their YouTube feed.
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Why do you think people are actually still afraid to offend?
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I mean, I always like that, that one, the obvious answer for like why people don't want
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to do it is that the social ramifications are really high.
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So especially if you're a network or whatever, it's, you know, the, they don't, these people
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They don't want to be getting letters right now.
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And the same as, you know, there's always going to be someone that is the in charge of
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And I think the social ramifications of that are very, very high.
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But the second part of it is a lot of, not everyone is kind of this like troublemaker
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So I don't know if, I think that some people, they don't want, they definitely don't.
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Like, I mean, I have a, I know a lot of people that they're like, oh, I want to kind of make
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The, like there's, I'm like, I know these personalities and you don't want a bunch of
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And it's not like for everyone to be kind of constantly like trying to push buttons.
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Like, I think that's a certain type of personality.
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And right now I think it's the way the, the instinct of how to sort of be pushing those
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like energy pockets is generally like, uh, thought, um, so it's like kind of in the thought
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I mean, there's always going to be like, you know, deconstructionalist comedy at some
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point was pushing boundaries that, you know, making fun of the church at some point was
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So I think the best people that are the best at what they do are able to like kind of pair
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their personality with what also is like connecting with people to find like, you know, something
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that they find funny and they actually suits like what they actually think as opposed to
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They're like, Oh, let me try to be, you know, subversive just for the sake of it.
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As my brother would say, some people take the nice, clean highway.
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What do you think is the logical progression past like political correctness and cancel
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There's so many comedians, actors, actresses saying we need to stop cancel culture.
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I think to a degree, like you said, after Trump, people have stopped caring as much a little
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But what do you think the natural progression is in the next couple of years?
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So my prediction, like when I was about five, four, I would say this three or four years
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ago, I felt like I was already moving away from this stuff.
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And I was kind of more talking about men and women and race and in a, in a, in a, like
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not in, not in relation to, you know, the culture stuff.
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Um, I think in COVID, it kind of bubbled back up and took it back about two years.
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So I feel like now we're kind of back to where we were three years ago in a lot of
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But in my opinion, what I don't, I don't see this, uh, I see it more as the mainstream
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is sort of going to, going to keep doing what it's going to do.
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And the counterculture and like, I think is growing.
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I mean, there's so many people that are kind of doing their own thing outside of these
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And I think that that like decentralization of art and decentralization of comedy and
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I mean, if you look at for a while, forever ago, there was, you know, all these labels
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And then, you know, there's a lot of rappers that are billionaires now because of that.
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So I think that the stakes are still pretty high for, for, uh, places to take big chances
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on anything that's going to cause, you know, real repercussions and you keep seeing them do
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Whereas like a lot of places will be like, Oh, we'll take a chance on this guy.
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And then it's like, Oh, well, here's some tweets he's fired.
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And, and then all of a sudden, you know, the amount of money and press that, so I think
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the ramifications for, they're kind of stuck in a rock and a hard place.
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So I kind of think it is like the mainstream is like falling apart a little bit, you know,
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places, the big comedy networks, they're unable to star make, they're not having big hits.
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So I think that it's, could be a positive or a negative, depending on how you look at
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And in a lot of ways, it's a positive because there's a lot of people that were able to
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And everyone's like making money and, uh, you know, having their little pockets of energy
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And then on top of that, because of the industry is not getting involved too soon, people actually
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have the right amount of time to marinate and be kind of create their movements without,
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uh, getting big buckets of money thrown at them that are ruining what they were doing.
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So it could be, so people, a lot of people say it's like bad for comedy, but you know,
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Like if it's bad for probably what's on TV and maybe it's bad for the comedy that's being
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made in movies, but this it's, it's like right now it's like, you might not see metal
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on the radio, but if you're into metal, there's a lot of good metal.
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So I think there's lots of stuff if you actually, that it could be better for art if you're
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actually into it, that it's decentralized and artists have like more power rather than
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Well, I think that what you're talking about is what happened to, what's the comedian's
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name who got kicked off of SNL in his first week?
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And, uh, he talks about now how they looked at all his stuff and they're like, no, don't
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And then the first week, like everybody knows you got fired for a podcast.
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If you want to get fired from your job, start a podcast.
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But at the same time, like he's doing well, it's like, you have to remember like those
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jobs, it's like people's brains are still stuck in like, Oh, I want to be on SNL.
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It's like, dude, I don't want to drive to midtown Manhattan to like work some like jobs.
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Like we're like touring around, selling out places and I'm running my little company and
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making videos and we're, we're doing really well.
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And it's, it may be more stressful, but I like running my own thing anyway.
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It's, and also I'm in my thirties, like that's a better 25 year old job.
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So I think, but it, to me, I didn't move to America to be like, Oh, let me try to get
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I kind of moved here because I was like, Oh, I could do my own thing here and actually make
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Like the last, if I was getting offers about that, it'd be like stressful.
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Cause I'm like, Oh, like, especially if someone offers you like a ton of money, you're just
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Well, that's what I want to ask you, is there, is there a talk, a Ryan long talk show coming
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Are we ever going to see you attached to a big network?
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I think that everything changes, but being doing like wild stuff is like a young person's
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Even the, you know, you were, we were talking about CKY and, and, you know, Tom Green,
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I, even the, I used to do a lot of that stuff when we, you know, the stuff you were talking
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about when I was in my twenties, like I'm not, I can't do that.
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I think now my troublemaking comes probably more verbally, you know, but so I think that,
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yeah, who knows what the industry looks like, you know, think about how much things have
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You know, the fact that like Netflix is a, you know, the primary place people watch television
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So to predict, you know, the idea of what the, for the decentralization that's already
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like rapidly happening and the industry's losing its power at the time.
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That, you know, decentralization everywhere is happening so rapidly at the internet's
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So I think that to, to just, to look at it and be like, what's it going to look like
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I mean, even five years ago, if you looked at it and you go, Hey, do you know that like
00:23:43.200
internet dudes, like Logan Paul are making as much money as like George Clooney.
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Like you go, yeah, some dude's YouTube channel.
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And you go, what, what, what's going on right now?
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Mr. Beast, some dude, you know, making weird videos on the internet.
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So, and potentially as, as relevant or more relevant if you're, you know, a 16 year old.
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So it's hard to look at any of this and understand where it's going to be in 10 years, maybe doing
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In the metaverse instead of, yeah, dude, I'm just in the metaverse.
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You're still bombing, you're bombing in the metaverse with a, with a helmet on and some crappy open mic in
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the metaverse because, you know, you got kicked off of every platform.
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I want the metaverse to be more like demolition, man.
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Uh, something with Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes where Taco Bell is the only, I think
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I'm okay with Taco Bell being the only option personally.
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That's a two for, that's a two for one these days.
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It's, you know, there's, there's put it this way.
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I don't think that if, if you could say that, uh, every comedian kind of have to had their
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own little radio show, it's just like kind of what the situation is now.
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I remember my body was like, yeah, I'm starting a podcast.
00:25:17.460
And you're like, like the way he was saying, it was kind of like that.
00:25:24.300
If you want to be a comedian that does, you know, unless you get book, get lucky and
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booked some huge role for whatever reason on some series and you just get like gifted
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Now you have to have, you know, the days of like the tortured artists that you're just
00:25:48.060
So it's very hard to act like you don't care and be the apathetic artist when you also
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It'd be like posting on a schedule and show up, have a podcast and book guests.
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Uh, promote your tours properly and actually run a proper business.
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So it, it, it forces everyone to just admit like, yeah, I know we are trying hard.
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Like there's no way to do this without, without trying.
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So, you know, not to say that you couldn't get popular without a podcast, but it's definitely
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a big component of if you're a fan of someone, you're like, yeah, I want to go listen to what
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I feel like there is a lot of us who've been traveling on this path silently.
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Cause a lot of the stuff you say is exactly what my life has been like up until working
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And, and I recognize that in a lot of the other people that I interviewed too, whether
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it's like Elijah from slightly offensive, for example, or, you know, maybe somebody
00:26:51.680
younger than me, like a guy named like John Doyle, it's just sort of starting on your own,
00:26:56.460
doing your own thing, and then hoping you build enough momentum and viewership to actually
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Or, and I think the ultimate goal is to be where you are, where it's completely independent.
00:27:05.540
And then, you know, you can make video about whatever you want.
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Cause there's always, you know, the person in your ear when you're at some big network.
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I mean, the, obviously the actual threat is the being removed from YouTube and stuff
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But dude, when I was doing videos at the CBC, we would do a video and I would like, you
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know, I would do these eight scripts and you'd kind of give them the scripts and stuff like
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And this is other places too, not just there, but I've, you know, I've been making videos
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So you'd give them these scripts and sometimes the notes would take like two, three months
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And then by the time I, and then by the time we got all the notes, it was like a month and
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And then watching the video and I'm like, it feels slow now because I, this is just, maybe
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I'm like being crazy, but in my mind that month and a half, like the internet sped up.
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And I think that was the era where everyone was starting to do crash zooms way more and stuff
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And I really felt like in the couple months that we had people giving notes on the edits
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by the time I got those notes back, that the video felt slow because the like pace of the
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internet at that moment felt weird the same way that, you know, you can't do talk about
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And then three months later, you kind of hear that, that bit and you go, ah, this just doesn't
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So I think that being, just the being able to move very quickly.
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So I have like a little team of employees that I kind of, you know, we meet on Monday
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And, and then I were like, okay, what are we shooting this week?
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And we have a schedule and I just run the little business and try to keep your head down and
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Like, yeah, I mean, you know, obviously there's still a legacy program, but even when you think
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of that, it's like, people talk about these shows with such reverence.
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It's, you know, it's like in Canada, what's like the Royal Canadian Air Force is, that's
00:28:59.060
Like, I don't think people have that reverence for those shows.
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Like you wouldn't be like, oh man, this hour is 22 minutes, but SNL, you're like, yeah,
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it's just some old sketch show for, you know, for whatever, for 55 year old ladies that
00:29:13.660
And you go and everyone's like, they're the gold standard because they used to be good.
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It's like, yeah, they have the odd sketch that's fine, but it's like, why are they
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Like I would never, when I'm looking at people online and being like, who's jokes, who's
00:29:27.680
at the forefront of this, who's sketches, I go, you know, they're this legacy thing
00:29:31.220
that still exists and they're like a money machine.
00:29:32.940
So it's not going to close down, but I'm not looking at them to be like, oh, am I beating
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I'm like looking at them to be like, if I'm doing the same thing as them, like, oh, am I
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So I don't, I just don't have the reverence for those.
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So I don't really see them as like direct competition.
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Like if you look at a new band, you're not kind of like, well, are they as good as the
00:30:02.440
Like it's all, why is everyone being compared to the Foo Fighters?
00:30:06.320
But in, in comedy, everyone always talks about SNL.
00:30:08.760
Like, like, I don't, I don't even think of it until people message you and be like, oh, SNL did
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some version of a sketch you did a year and a half ago.
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That's like the only time you kind of even like think about them.
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Most of the stuff now, like SNL or even CNN is based on stupid stuff they put out and
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Maybe that's the new target for these programs.
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Let's make something so ridiculous or unfunny and obscene.
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That way it's going to get picked up from all these, you know, baiting right wingers,
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It's this sort of what the advertising companies do where they're just like, hey, like your
00:31:00.160
That is what they that is like legitimately I did do kind of an advertising sketch that
00:31:05.480
is kind of similar to that, but not with the toys.
00:31:08.460
But it is there is to some degree that is the same way that it's like this loop of people
00:31:14.520
getting pressed by trying to make people mad and they'll be like the rights triggered
00:31:17.980
and then the right will be like you're actually you're triggered and then everyone's calling
00:31:20.680
everyone triggered and I guess their product gets more clicks, but I don't think it's
00:31:27.940
the right kind of clicks because I've even known people in advertising.
00:31:32.160
It's kind of like, you know, you know, a lot of businesses become convoluted when lawyers
00:31:39.520
get too involved and I don't know if it necessarily makes like it more efficient or just the lawyers
00:31:44.420
There's kind of that in advertising where they hire these like 20 year old ad firms and
00:31:47.980
they're like, hey, we need to do these, you know, kind of progressive ad campaigns
00:31:51.660
that kind of just, you know, get dunked on, but they also, you know, cause a stir and
00:31:57.360
then they go and go, look, your video has 3 million views.
00:32:00.400
Yes, it made these bad people mad, but all the good people will buy your product.
00:32:04.480
And I go, I don't think any of this has a, I think it's just for ad companies to be able
00:32:13.760
Advertisement people just love patting themselves on the back for like a campaign that got a lot
00:32:17.500
of views so that they can go, they can go to their, they go fleece their next company
00:32:24.980
We go, look at how many clicks we got on our ad about how, you know, little mermaids trans.
00:32:30.700
Well, when I was doing a lot of like a commercial writing and writing for ads before I got political,
00:32:38.980
It's just like, I feel like it's a circular motion of money.
00:32:42.220
Like we have this much money for an ad campaign.
00:32:49.840
So they're going to sell that ad to the next person.
00:32:51.780
It's just this revolving door of like $30,000 campaigns.
00:32:57.080
Like nobody's reading this, but somehow they're paying $30,000.
00:33:02.080
No, it really is a, it's one of the biggest scams going on, especially we used to do some
00:33:06.280
of this stuff back in the day, but it was like, dude, there's some places where they just,
00:33:10.480
they straight up their whole business model is they make videos and then pay for
00:33:19.300
So it gets clicks, but they've figured out how to, you know, if they, every thousand
00:33:23.640
views, they get, you know, a hundred dollars from the ad company and it only costs them
00:33:29.940
And their whole model is essentially forcing people to watch this thing.
00:33:33.700
And then, you know, taking the spread from the ad companies.
00:33:37.500
And it's like, it's just a corny business model all around.
00:33:41.140
And it's like kind of a, I don't know, it's an industry that is really based on patting
00:33:47.100
And then when the, in the 2000 post 2015 era, when, you know, the trick was just, oh, say
00:33:53.680
something that will, uh, you know, piss people off.
00:33:57.140
I think that that just became the, the like golden ticket for these places to like print
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And if you're on the right side of it, it's like, you know, who cares if you piss people
00:34:08.960
I want to do one more quick segment behind the paywall.
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So we'll say goodbye to the free audience on YouTube and rumble and everywhere else.
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00:34:33.060
This will come out the day before your first show.
00:34:46.620
Well, there's like, right now we, we did a show on the 17th and then at the Royal
00:34:51.940
So we added another show on the 16th that, um, pretty recently that there's still,
00:34:56.980
So Ryan long, uh, comedy.com is where you get tickets for that in Toronto.
00:35:05.900
Um, I want to ask you, Ryan, have you, do you pay attention to any of this anti lockdown
00:35:10.560
stuff here in Canada where you're from and remind you people from Canada that he's around,
00:35:15.460
I think you're from Toronto or Ajax around that area.
00:35:23.360
I mean, I was watching the Adamson's barbecue thing, but you know, it's kind of what I was
00:35:30.280
saying before where I'm always, listen, like, I don't think that the lockdowns were, uh,
00:35:38.240
I thought, obviously I, I'm not like the safest person in the world.
00:35:42.640
So I'm, if I was in charge, I don't think that I would, uh, like the way that the lockdowns
00:35:50.560
And I think that it's probably better the way that a lot of places in America did it
00:35:55.780
Um, but that being said, I'm always sort of a proponent of like, um, I feel like you
00:36:01.800
So there's a part of like, for example, when New York got really bad, I moved, you know,
00:36:06.500
there's, you can complain about it online, but you can also move.
00:36:09.720
So I moved to Miami where it was more open, you know, you don't have to follow all the
00:36:14.320
So it's like, to me, there was, there's always a way that I think that you can make, you
00:36:21.000
You're not always going to be able to, it's, you know, whatever, I guess, stand up for what
00:36:25.120
you believe in, but you're not always going to be able to, um, change the world.
00:36:28.880
So sometimes you have to just change yourself within the world.
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Have you paid attention to, have you paid attention to any of the lockdown characters?
00:36:37.220
You mentioned Adamson barbecue, are you, are you seeing any of these guys?
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Uh, I think everybody's seen at this point where he makes all these predictions about what's
00:36:55.440
And, and he's in his tank top that barely fits his tattoos, his veneers.
00:37:06.140
I saw one recently, uh, that they posted with him where he had like a rally, I guess, like
00:37:13.040
And then people were kind of like partying at the rally.
00:37:16.600
He was like, well, you guys are, you guys are partying and drinking.
00:37:23.780
And he's yelling at his support, at all of his supporters.
00:37:36.940
Like people always say that it's like kind of easier said than done.
00:37:42.420
But honestly, if I, if I was probably there for all this stuff, I think that I would leave.
00:37:48.400
I know people have like families and all that stuff, but.
00:37:55.820
But then on the other side, I know a lot of people that don't give a shit.
00:38:01.160
Cause they're like, yeah, I get free money and then I'm working some other jobs.
00:38:06.440
I'm literally getting an extra, whatever, 25 grand a year.
00:38:09.340
Then I'm working my like under table job that I don't even have to go into the office for
00:38:13.280
or go, you know, working from home or whatever.
00:38:15.560
So I think some people are just like, uh, it's, it's, you know, it's obviously like
00:38:23.780
somewhat popular because people, you know, you put them in a position where like, Hey,
00:38:27.560
we're going to give you tons of money to not work.
00:38:29.480
Like, and then, and they're like, Hey, do you think, want to go back to work?
00:38:32.180
And everyone's like, actually, I just thought of it.
00:38:34.560
And I'm like really worried about COVID all of a sudden.
00:38:40.680
Now that I think about it, I'm very worried about COVID after I got my chip.
00:38:44.900
And they said they were going to go after everybody for that.
00:38:47.940
There was something like 600,000 people, um, that weren't eligible that they just pushed
00:38:53.740
them all through because the system was failing and they just never went after them.
00:38:59.320
I think that, that, that, I think that, uh, it was pretty, uh, wishy-washy, like who was
00:39:06.340
getting what, and they're not going to be doing a very good job of keeping track of it.
00:39:10.060
I mean, the Canadian government is pretty, Canadian government is pretty bad at like
00:39:17.560
Like the Canadian government is very, uh, like they just give you a, if you get caught, like
00:39:22.900
cheating on your taxes, they go like, all right, come on.
00:39:26.680
They just kind of like, you're not going to jail.
00:39:39.180
Um, we'll, we'll tell everybody to push your shows.
00:39:46.880
And yeah, um, if you do want to come, like, let me know just, uh, how many tickets you
00:39:51.580
I was talking about interviewing, but I'll probably take you up on this offer.