Rebel News Podcast - October 15, 2021


ANDREW CHAPADOS | “They Told Me What Questions to Ask”: April Moss (CBS whistleblower)


Episode Stats

Length

31 minutes

Words per Minute

183.92178

Word Count

5,850

Sentence Count

303

Misogynist Sentences

13

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

April Moss is a correspondent for Real America's Voice and a whistleblower from CBS Detroit who was terminated for speaking out against the network through Project Veritas this last summer. She shares her story of how she was terminated and why she felt compelled to speak out.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Good evening and thanks for watching First Forecast. I'm meteorologist April Moss and
00:00:03.880 happy Father's Day. Today we saw temperatures above normal again, topping out at 85 degrees
00:00:09.540 at Metro Airport. Plenty of sunshine today, but all good things must come to an end and
00:00:14.440 that starts as early as tomorrow morning with showers moving in around 8 a.m. And speaking
00:00:20.120 of a brand new week, I will be sitting down this week with Project Veritas to discuss
00:00:24.620 the discrimination that CVS is enforcing upon its employees. Tune in to Project Veritas
00:00:30.360 for my full story. Now, later Monday, we will see those showers continuing through late morning,
00:00:36.360 but by evening we'll see dry conditions and more comfortable temperatures as well.
00:00:54.620 April Moss is a correspondent for Real America's Voice. She is also a whistleblower from CBS Detroit
00:01:02.520 who was terminated for speaking out against the network through Project Veritas this last
00:01:07.460 summer. April, how are you doing? Thanks for joining me today.
00:01:11.260 Yeah, thanks so much for having me on your show. I'm doing fantastic. It feels so good to be able
00:01:17.040 to bring people the real truth of what's going on within our nation and, of course, around the world.
00:01:22.800 And so I'm very grateful for the opportunity that Project Veritas gave me in getting my story out
00:01:29.700 there to the public, which was that CBS News was really falsifying information to the public and
00:01:36.440 suppressing truthful information within their reporting. And then also with their ridiculous
00:01:42.420 COVID-19 mandates and policies where people are losing their jobs and being forced out of jobs simply
00:01:49.900 because they don't want to be, you know, experimented on. Um, I felt like it was my duty to stand up and
00:01:56.360 say, this is not okay. We need to stop complying and to really sound the alarm for everyone who watches
00:02:02.380 mainstream media to say, you know, what you're watching is not truthful. And so, um, it's been a great
00:02:09.320 ride so far and I love being with Real America's Voice. It's a phenomenal network and you can catch them
00:02:15.640 at realamericasvoice.com. What was one of the, the news stories that stood out to you or one of the
00:02:22.420 representations that they did at the network that made you, you know, sort of feel like that they
00:02:27.420 weren't presenting it how it should be? Well, the, the main thing for me was that I was asked to
00:02:34.280 interview Dr. Joni Khaldun, who by the way, is somebody who came from the Obama administration
00:02:40.600 and was sent to Michigan, uh, where my station was located in the Detroit area. And she was
00:02:47.560 responsible for the vaccine rollout specifically for the senior citizens when the vaccine became
00:02:53.100 available. And I was to interview her, but I was not supposed to be asking her any questions about
00:02:58.860 her job. Um, I, they really wanted me to just stick to my script, which was to ask her softball
00:03:04.980 questions about who inspires her and how did she get to where she is today. And I thought that it
00:03:11.940 was absolutely disgusting and irresponsible that I was going to be interviewing somebody who not only
00:03:18.480 by the way, were we showing video of her receiving the COVID-19 vaccine, but I was not allowed to be
00:03:23.920 talking about the vaccine. Uh, this was her main job. So, um, that was really the, the final moment
00:03:30.960 for me where after that show was, uh, was done, I said, you know, I'm, I can't put my name on this
00:03:37.220 stuff anymore. We, we are supposed to be truth to the people. And especially for Michigan, we got hit
00:03:44.760 really hard in the city of Detroit as well with COVID-19. And if you're going to be touting a vaccine
00:03:50.960 and saying that it's safe and effective and showing video, uh, that is, uh, clearly being demonstrated by
00:03:57.820 people within governor Gretchen Whitmer's cabinet, then we also need to be talking about the known
00:04:03.940 side effects and adverse reactions, which at that point were already being reported. So, um, that was,
00:04:11.100 that was the main concern for me was that it's fine. If you want to tell people that the vaccine is one
00:04:16.380 option, but it's not the only option. And it's our duty as journalists to give people the full story
00:04:21.880 so they can make an informed, educated decision for themselves.
00:04:25.120 Who gives that direction? Where does that come down from to sort of say, don't ask her anything
00:04:30.300 about the vaccine or, or don't ask any too difficult of questions?
00:04:35.300 So specifically the coming right from my producer, but now whether he received, you know, um, sort of
00:04:42.640 directions from New York, which is the Viacom CBS, you know, headquarters, world headquarters, I believe
00:04:49.640 that's where he was getting this direction from just as a journalist who was receiving, uh, the company
00:04:55.100 emails that were being sent out throughout all of the higher corporation worldwide. It was a lot of
00:05:01.820 very far left rhetoric. Um, and so in my opinion, you know, from what I can see that the company was
00:05:09.420 continuing to push out just within internal emails, it certainly seems like this was the direction that
00:05:14.620 they were seeing upon the managerial staff. Although I don't have confirmation of that, uh, specifically,
00:05:21.320 but it very much. Um, and I, I asked the questions anyways, just, just to let you know, I decided
00:05:27.720 I put myself to have my name on something and, and know that I didn't try to get the information to
00:05:36.160 the people. So I asked Dr. Khaldun, a very pointed question. I said, tell me about the long-term
00:05:41.920 studies, uh, shown safety and efficacy of these vaccines, because we all know that this was something
00:05:48.420 that was created very quickly, um, you know, at a warp speed, so to speak. Um, and so she gave me a
00:05:56.260 canned answer and said that in the clinical trials, people who had gotten vaccinated with, uh, with the
00:06:02.240 vaccine actually did not need to be hospitalized, which I knew that was a flat out lie. I had already
00:06:08.300 done my research on that. So when I called her on the carpet on that and said, could you please
00:06:12.780 clarify your statement? Because we do know that people have been hospitalized after receiving this
00:06:17.020 vaccine. She gave me another canned response. So I wasn't going to get anywhere with her, but
00:06:22.480 at least at the end of the day, I felt good that, you know, I was at least trying to get some truth
00:06:27.480 out of this person who is touting this to be a safe product. At the end of the project Veritas video,
00:06:35.560 they show a spokesperson and there's a quote from them as to why they let you go. And I wanted to
00:06:42.220 read that. It says, while we respect and support our employees freedom to have their own opinion,
00:06:47.040 they aren't entitled to use our stations news broadcast as a platform for sharing personal
00:06:51.580 views. Now I was watching that and reading it and I would say, why not? Are people at the network
00:06:57.940 there? And I know it's only one portion of CBS, but are they under the impression that the audience
00:07:02.740 doesn't know that there's bias in the reporting? Like, do they think that people are watching and
00:07:06.760 thinking these people don't have any opinions. They're just giving it to it straightforward forward.
00:07:11.120 Do they not recognize that the audience recognizes that or do they think that they're completely
00:07:15.500 unbiased? Yeah, no, I think in their minds, they think that they're completely unbiased.
00:07:21.760 I mean, just, just look at Gail King. I interviewed her and I asked her in an interview,
00:07:27.540 Hey Gail, tell me, how do you stay objective in your journalism in the day and age where we're
00:07:31.680 hearing the term fake news all of the time? How do you stay objective in your reporting? And she said,
00:07:37.360 April, when I hear the term fake news, I never think they're talking about us at CBS. I mean,
00:07:44.260 it's laughable. I could not believe she said that to me because at least have a little bit of humility
00:07:49.480 to say, uh, you know, Hey, I, I do, I am aware that a couple of times we've, we've gone with a report
00:07:56.740 and it's turned out to be not true and accurate. And Hey, we do our best to try to apologize for that.
00:08:03.420 But there was none of that. It was just a very much of, you know, well, they're not talking about
00:08:07.440 CBS when they say fake news, which you and I both know CBS news is, has been in the news multiple
00:08:14.580 times for putting out fake stories, um, and doctoring certain stories to make them fit a
00:08:20.920 certain narrative or agenda. And no better explanation of that is right here in Michigan.
00:08:26.700 Uh, they staged a COVID-19 testing facility, which project Veritas also uncovered in, uh,
00:08:34.720 investigative reports. I think it, it's really strange and odd of a person to pretend as if
00:08:40.280 they're, they're sort of infallible in a sense, especially in the news world, when we get so much
00:08:44.040 stuff fed to us and every, and everything's coming from different directions. Maybe I'm citing
00:08:48.180 a CNN one day, or I'm citing Fox the other day. Somebody's bound to be wrong sometimes in the chain
00:08:54.180 of information flowing. And I don't think it's, I don't think it's a big accomplishment or, or a big
00:09:00.760 talking point for a person to say, I'm never wrong. We never get it wrong. I could never see
00:09:04.600 myself as, as fake news. I think that lacks a little bit of humility. And I, and I think the
00:09:09.700 people who are doing the reporting nowadays, the people who are most popular, the ones who are coming
00:09:15.300 across as most human and well-rounded individuals. And I want to segue that into this lady from ESPN
00:09:21.620 named Sage Steele. She was recently suspended and taken off air, I think for a week, at least
00:09:27.520 for a bunch of comics. She, I mean, she covered the whole gamut of everything, mandates,
00:09:33.720 Obama, young women. She covered pretty much everything. So I want to play this clip. It was on the
00:09:39.600 former football player, Jay Cutler's podcast. And I want to get your opinion on some of the stuff
00:09:44.240 she says. Let's go ahead and play that. Sure. I mean, I've had talks with young women who like would
00:09:50.160 come in and they'd intern with, with me, with our channel or just other women who reach out to me
00:09:54.940 now. And I've said to a couple of them, they're like, well, would you look at my tape? Would you
00:09:58.220 do this? And I, and I've said, listen, I would love to, but the way that you present yourself,
00:10:02.320 it's not something I want to be associated with. So when you dress like that, I'm not saying you
00:10:07.940 deserve the gross comments, but you know what you're doing when you're putting that outfit on too.
00:10:13.160 Like women are smart. So don't play coy and put it all on the guys. When you fill out your census,
00:10:18.680 I'm like, well, I don't know when the last time I filled out my census was, but if they make you
00:10:23.180 choose a race, she's like, where are you going to put it? I go, well, both. She's like, well,
00:10:27.280 you can't. She goes, well, what about Barack Obama chose black and he's biracial. I'm like,
00:10:31.420 well, congratulations to the president. That's his thing. I go, I think that's fascinating
00:10:35.920 considering, considering his black dad was nowhere to be found, but his white mom and grandma raised him.
00:10:41.460 But Hey, you do you. I think to man, I respect everyone's decision. I really do. But to mandate it
00:10:47.620 is, um, sick and scary to me in many ways. Um, but I have a job, a job that I love and frankly,
00:10:59.100 a job that I need. But again, I love it. I just, um, I'm not surprised it got to this point,
00:11:04.960 especially with Disney. I mean, a global company based on what Sage is saying stuff. Do you think
00:11:10.760 this is a suspendable type of point of view she's presenting? Absolutely not. This is completely
00:11:17.560 ridiculous. And I feel so sorry for her because she didn't want to get the vaccine in the first
00:11:22.580 place. Then she went ahead and got it because she was coerced into getting it. And then she gets let
00:11:27.320 go anyways. I mean, now she's stuck with, uh, you know, a medical product that she's been injected with
00:11:33.280 that, you know, she's, and now she still doesn't have a job. Right. I mean, this is completely
00:11:38.720 ridiculous. We watch on, you know, mainstream media all the time. The anchors giving their opinions
00:11:45.080 all the time. I mean, this is, this is one of our biggest frustrations, right. With, with viewership,
00:11:50.760 you know, watching different shows and saying, it's just everybody's opinion. Where's the actual news
00:11:56.900 and where's the actual objectivity. Um, and so for her to just be able to share and be very real with
00:12:03.380 everybody and saying like, this was my struggle and this is what, you know, my viewpoint on this
00:12:08.660 because it didn't align with their narrative, which is, you know, unfortunately so far left in
00:12:14.960 Marxist. I mean, it's hardly recognizable anymore to, to sit, to look at anything coming forth on
00:12:21.120 mainstream media and, and not say that we are living in a communist country right now.
00:12:25.660 They had almost the same thing as what CBS did. And I want to read their statement too,
00:12:30.980 because I was like, I was looking at all these things and I'm like, it's so similar.
00:12:34.860 At ESPN, we embrace different points of view, dialogue and discussion. Uh, this makes this a
00:12:40.100 great place. That said, we expect that those points of view be expressed respectfully in a
00:12:44.720 manner consistent with our values and in line with our internal policies. We are having direct
00:12:49.300 conversations with Sage and those conversations will remain private. So it's okay that you give your
00:12:53.660 personal opinion, but in the way that we want aligning with the policies we want. Now ESPN is
00:12:58.400 a very political for a sports, um, site and channel so political and they have no problem mixing it in,
00:13:05.120 um, when it's with the other point of view. I could go back to Colin Kaepernick and the NBA with Black
00:13:11.100 Lives Matter and everything. And, uh, one of the reasons I think is similar to why you left that she
00:13:16.620 gave is, um, is about the mandate there. But I did want to get your opinion on something else she said
00:13:23.380 about how women present themselves in a certain way. She said in there that, uh, she doesn't want
00:13:28.180 to work with some women if they present themselves, you know, too scantily clad because she thinks they
00:13:33.200 know what they're doing and then they're not going to, she's not just going to pretend that they don't
00:13:36.860 know what they're doing. How do you feel about that? Do you agree or disagree? Um, you know,
00:13:41.840 I think, I think in general, you know, the women who are going to wear clothes that are more
00:13:48.520 promiscuous or scantily clad, I guess you could say, um, you know, they, they like the attention
00:13:55.420 that they receive from that. Uh, I've worked with plenty of women who have dressed that way. Um,
00:14:00.820 it comes down to, in my opinion, what do you want to be known for? Do you want to be known for,
00:14:06.880 um, certain physical attributes, or do you want to be known for your talent and your expertise on
00:14:14.360 the subjects that you're talking about? Um, certainly, you know, just from a purely physical
00:14:20.860 standpoint, the women who dress more, um, scantily clad tend to have a lot more followers
00:14:27.660 and specifically males, right? I mean, that's just how it is. Um, so, you know, as far as having to
00:14:35.320 work with some of those ladies, I'll tell you the ones that dress like that usually aren't the
00:14:39.120 nicest ones to work with. They're not the nicest coworkers. They're definitely, um, they know that
00:14:45.300 they are, I, you know, we call it, we call them divas, right. In, in the, in the media world,
00:14:51.520 it's like, you just, you know, that that one's a diva, right? So I haven't met one who dresses more.
00:14:57.340 And I listen, I think you can be modest and beautiful at the same time. I think you can be
00:15:02.900 very trendy, uh, without letting everything hang out. Uh, and I think that you can still be very
00:15:10.100 popular amongst men and women, uh, when you respect yourself enough to, to wear clothes that are more,
00:15:16.400 um, I would say business appropriate, you know, it's one thing if you're going to go out to the
00:15:22.120 club one night or go out to dinner, but it's another thing if your job is, you know, primarily just to be
00:15:28.140 speaking on camera. But again, I'm, I'm not going to place it on anyone that, you know, it's, it's
00:15:34.560 every woman's decision, how she dresses, but I mean, I'm a mom of four kids. So maybe I'm the wrong
00:15:40.380 person to ask, but I, you know, I think that you can still be successful and have a lot of followers
00:15:46.160 and respect of your fellow coworkers as well. You know, if you dress cute, but modest,
00:15:52.180 no, you're the right person to ask. It's always the right person to ask.
00:15:55.580 Oh, she's saying that they should sort of expect or be able to deal with the types of messages
00:16:01.200 they get. And I, and I sympathize with the other side of that. But at the same time,
00:16:05.500 if you're a person in the media and, uh, you're facing criticism all the time, whether it's creepy
00:16:11.100 dudes on Instagram or something, or people wishing you death through emails, I think you should be able
00:16:16.320 to, to deal with this based on what you say or how you present yourself. That's just my opinion.
00:16:21.320 There's another Facebook. You want to expand on that?
00:16:24.200 Well, just, just, I would love to say that, you know, coming from someone like in my position as
00:16:29.820 a whistleblower, you know, you have people who love you for it and you have people that will
00:16:34.300 come and attack you because they just think you're crazy for calling out fake news and saying that
00:16:40.600 how, you know, how dare I be upset about, you know, a vaccine mandate. They just think it's
00:16:45.880 idiotic. Um, and you know, you get to a point in life, especially being on air talent where you just
00:16:51.700 don't care what people think. I mean, I'm at the point now where it's like, I honestly,
00:16:56.480 nobody's opinion matters. All I have, all I focus on is my work. What I know that I, you know,
00:17:01.800 I'm doing the right thing. And I answered a one person only, and that's God. And if I'm pleasing
00:17:07.280 him, then I don't worry about anybody else. Cause you're never going to please everybody.
00:17:10.740 And you certainly can't spend any time, you know, wasting time fretting over what somebody
00:17:16.680 is going to say about you because there's mean people everywhere. People are going to just be
00:17:20.760 mean. That's just how it is. The producer that you had on the recording, he was saying some wild
00:17:26.040 stuff, I thought. And then, and it sounded like my boss. Yeah. And it sounded like he thought that he
00:17:31.240 was being the super sensible and a virtuous one. He's saying, what, what do you think is the point of
00:17:37.080 this? And we can play it. What do you think is the point of this? Um, what do you think of the
00:17:41.340 outcome was going to be? And it's like, you shouldn't speak truth because you don't think
00:17:46.560 that there's going to be a benefit for you out of it. Why would you do that? You know, basically
00:17:51.560 that's the most selfish thing I've ever seen in all in 36 years working there without even a close
00:17:57.360 second. Cause you don't give a crap about anybody else, you know, and, and, and like if you get
00:18:04.060 terminated, which you might, and then the burden is going to place on other people, you couldn't
00:18:08.180 care less. It's just all about April Moss. I don't see how, what he was, how, what you said
00:18:12.840 was selfish the way he put it. He said it was selfish for you to, to tell people the truth,
00:18:18.420 even though that was going to get, is what got you fired. So that didn't really make any sense to
00:18:23.360 me. He's a mess. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, I just want to say really quick about him.
00:18:33.380 It kind of took me off guard because in private conversations with my boss, that was my boss,
00:18:38.900 by the way, in private conversations with him, he, um, he agreed with me that the, the amount of
00:18:47.100 mandates and hoops that CBS employees were having to jump through just to attend work was ridiculous.
00:18:53.560 I mean, he was telling me that, that he agreed with me. And then, you know, cause I was telling
00:18:58.960 him, I said, listen, ultimately what CBS did after I submitted all this documentation to HR stating
00:19:04.780 that what they were doing was against federal law under the EUA, uh, sending, sending them
00:19:10.080 documentation from a lawyer. So it's not like I just typed something up on my own. And, um, he even said
00:19:16.500 to me, he said, you're right. This is unconstitutional what they're doing. It's a violation of your
00:19:21.960 medical, um, like your, uh, what's it called? It's not HIPAA because that's between you and a doctor,
00:19:28.120 but yeah, the privacy, because they wanted me to, uh, because I told them that I would no longer be
00:19:33.580 complying with their mandates. They said, well, that's fine. But now you have to stay at home and
00:19:38.880 you're not allowed to come into our studio. That was a weird point. Uh, I don't think, I don't see how
00:19:42.780 they can't see that. That's weird. Oh, it's fine. You can just, you just got to work from home now.
00:19:46.400 You just got to deliver the weather from your living room or your bedroom. Nobody notices that
00:19:51.120 on screen. Well, and that's my, my viewers were messaging me and saying, why are you never in this
00:19:57.140 front of the green screen? Why are you never in the studio? And I, and I was thinking, oh my goodness,
00:20:02.260 here's my medical information on full display. You know, I'm the only on-air talent, by the way,
00:20:08.380 you know, when you, you look at these newsrooms across the country, 90% of them vote for Democrats.
00:20:13.480 Okay. It's, it's a very small percentage of, of conservatives that, that are in newsrooms across
00:20:19.820 the country. So I was only one conservative of, of everybody that I was basically working with.
00:20:26.760 And certainly the only conservative that had enough of a backbone to say, this is wrong.
00:20:31.700 And so, um, yeah, my, my medical information was on full display for all of Metro Detroit to see
00:20:38.480 every weekend. And that was one of the other reasons why I thought, well, you know, I've tried
00:20:43.020 to do everything the right way and keep things quiet and try to affect change internally. But
00:20:47.940 at this point, you really don't care about people's rights. You don't care about my medical privacy
00:20:52.480 being violated. And so at this point, the most selfless thing to do is to say on live TV, listen,
00:21:00.540 uh, I'm going to talk about the discrimination happening here at this station. And that was
00:21:06.420 so that hopefully my other colleagues would, would, you know, also wake up to realizing this
00:21:12.640 isn't right, what they're doing to people. And, you know, uh, so yeah, it definitely certainly landed
00:21:18.420 me, um, a pink slip, but I'm, I'm of course, very grateful that, uh, real America's voice picked
00:21:25.640 me up. Now this Facebook whistleblower, it seems different to me in the sense that it's getting
00:21:31.560 so much, she's getting so much mainstream media play. Now I've spoken with people like Ryan
00:21:36.560 Hartwig before and yourself and the other big leakers that have come out. I forget James,
00:21:41.280 whatever his name was from Google. None of them got the mainstream positive push that this woman's
00:21:47.440 getting. And Zach Voorhees, yeah. Pardon me? Zach Voorhees was the Google whistleblower.
00:21:54.060 There is, there are no, there's the other one that's subtle, uh, James Damore. Thank you,
00:21:59.540 producer AD. Oh, okay. Thank you. I didn't even, I wasn't even aware. He was the one that revealed
00:22:04.980 the Google documents about, um, uh, they, about gender equality and everything for the, uh,
00:22:12.080 the engineers and the designers of the algorithm and everything, and just all this pointless stuff.
00:22:17.160 But anyways, my point is they didn't get as much mainstream coverage and representative Matt
00:22:22.380 Gates is sort of saying the same thing. Saying she's talking about more censorship and we know
00:22:27.300 which direction that censorship goes into, uh, goes to, uh, if you will. And then, uh, Congresswoman
00:22:32.960 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, uh, she was making a lot of sense when she was talking about breaking up
00:22:37.800 the big tech giants. They have way too much power. Uh, this is of course in reaction to the outage
00:22:44.560 yesterday. So many people were frustrated. I saw on Twitter, uh, people going to Twitter talking
00:22:49.280 about how Facebook and Instagram were down and how outraged they were about that.
00:22:54.380 Yeah, we had no Facebook, no Instagram. It was like we were launched back to 1996.
00:23:00.160 Cats and dogs were living together. Hamburgers were eating people. Folks might have actually had to
00:23:04.720 unfold a map. That is something that used to be printed on paper for the zoomers that watch the
00:23:09.700 program. But in all seriousness, AOC makes a valid point. Facebook has too much control over the
00:23:16.000 internet and they've engaged in anti-competitive practices. So I've joined with Republicans like
00:23:21.780 Ken Buck. And now I want to get your opinion on that. Do we think that we should be trusting
00:23:27.120 this woman or should we be proud of her or should we be suspicious? Cause with some of the stuff that
00:23:32.620 this, uh, her name's Francis, uh, Francis Haugen or Hagen. I'm reading it off the screen there.
00:23:38.180 How suspicious should we be about how much cooperation she's getting? I mean, people are saying she was part
00:23:43.980 of the Facebook integrity team that, um, helped keep the Hunter Biden stuff down from the New York
00:23:49.580 post. Do you think, do you think we should be supporting her against her? So that's an excellent
00:23:55.700 question. I'm so glad you brought it up. First of all, she is, um, not somebody of all, if you're
00:24:02.700 going to be a whistleblower, you never go to mainstream media. You might try to go to mainstream
00:24:07.360 media, but mainstream media will never pick up your story because they're in lockstep with, um, with big
00:24:13.360 tech, you know, they're, they're in lockstep with them. They're not going to go against
00:24:16.880 the narrative. Um, and they've already made those decisions of that. They're all going to be in
00:24:22.040 agreement, big pharma and big tech and media. So you have a, a whistleblower coming forth from Facebook
00:24:28.820 and I'll be honest with you. Um, the fact that she has gotten so much attention from mainstream media,
00:24:35.680 I mean, it sends alarm bells off for anybody who has been following along with this, uh, who has been
00:24:42.900 awake, I should say, um, for the last two years, at least. And, you know, Ryan Hartwig, you can't,
00:24:48.760 I mean, he's been censored and shadow banned so many times on social media. I have his book behind
00:24:54.760 the mask of Facebook. He's already outed a lot of the stuff that this whistleblower, um, is supposedly
00:25:00.640 starting to talk about in hearings, but I think there's a more nefarious evil plan with this whole
00:25:06.400 thing. I think that the fact that she has been documented as being a long time Democrat supporter
00:25:13.980 financially, she supported democratic campaigns. Uh, this is somebody on their side of things. So I,
00:25:20.740 I don't trust her. Uh, this whole thing sounds very, uh, really suspect to me that I think it's going to
00:25:29.140 be a backwards way of Facebook, um, planning to be able to censor more content on their platform.
00:25:36.560 Would you agree? Yeah, I think that's the way that they would want to go, especially the way she talks
00:25:41.600 about January 6th. But, but then again, I'm confused because she did bring up how the FBI was found out
00:25:49.100 to be involved, but she's also saying that, and this gets into my question for you, she gets into saying
00:25:54.120 how, how Facebook radicalizes people and stuff. And you know, the, there's the famous, uh, Russian
00:26:00.000 BLM pages and they're trying to get people out to a Bernie Sanders, uh, event all the way from Russia.
00:26:06.640 And my question to you is, do you think that it's up to people themselves to figure everything out and
00:26:11.400 to research for themselves despite what the misinformation might be on social media? Or do you
00:26:16.360 think it's the social media company's responsibility to, you know, make sure everything's truthful?
00:26:22.300 I, first of all, I, you know, I don't see how a social media company could have the time to, to decide
00:26:29.380 what's misinformation and what isn't, uh, you know, certainly I think that each person, and this is what
00:26:35.520 we've learned over the last two years, each person needs to do their own critical thinking and research
00:26:41.420 for themselves. And, you know, you and I both know this, we re re re research things. Um, and I know a lot
00:26:48.900 of Democrat people too, that would say, Oh, I researched this, but the difference is there's
00:26:54.120 the Google research, right? Which is going to censor a certain information out. So you can
00:26:59.400 research it all you want. You're never going to find the truth of it. Or there's the other type
00:27:03.940 of research, which is what you and I do. And that's using search engines like brave and duck,
00:27:09.460 duck, go and a Swiss cows and several others. I believe that Ryan Hartwig has mentioned to me have
00:27:15.540 been solid, great search engines. Um, you know, and to the point about Ryan, I mean,
00:27:21.300 he has come out multiple times and, and explained exactly how Facebook does things. They'll say
00:27:27.760 that, you know, Oh, we don't allow for any sort of drug cartels or trafficking to happen on our
00:27:33.580 platform. And in the next breath, they basically allow all of those things to go on and happen.
00:27:38.840 Um, I think that when it comes down to blatant illegal activity that is going to cause people
00:27:46.020 harm, that's a, that's completely different topic than from deciding whether, you know,
00:27:50.940 is there truth in the fact that are these vaccines really killing people or are they going to benefit
00:27:56.280 them in their health? I think, you know, we're experiencing and watching this totalitarian
00:28:01.860 Marxist movement happen on our social media platforms. And I hope this sends alarm bells to people,
00:28:08.560 to say, it's time to get off of these platforms that are literally taking your, your data and your
00:28:14.780 information and collecting it about you. And then also censoring truth from you. I mean, I don't know
00:28:21.340 why people continue to be on these platforms. They need to just move off, you know, and, and find other
00:28:27.300 ways to communicate. Yeah, I definitely agree, especially about the stuff, um, about my, my point
00:28:34.000 of view, sort of just like nothing illegal should be allowed. And I think the internet's been around
00:28:37.300 that most people agree on what should be allowed on platforms, spam messaging, uh, you know, fake
00:28:44.960 accounts, stuff like that. I think most people can easily identify if they were to sit down for a
00:28:50.300 couple of days, identify everything that shouldn't be allowed, uh, including things that are illegal
00:28:55.020 and move from there. Um, the last thing I wanted to say is, is about what you mentioned about search
00:29:00.880 engines. And I think it is really hard to explain to a person about how much bias there is. And,
00:29:05.900 you know, Google algorithms and you search something on YouTube and all that anything that
00:29:10.520 comes up is opposing that point of view. If it's from, you know, a left wing source, uh, it's really
00:29:16.600 difficult to explain to somebody that, you know, what your search, you're not actually getting
00:29:21.400 results from what you think you're getting from you're getting, you think you're searching through
00:29:26.880 the whole wide web. You're searching everything through a filter of, you know, MSNBC, CNN, Fox,
00:29:33.680 and, uh, CBS and ABC and, and basically everything you get on cable in America. And it's really hard
00:29:41.000 to explain to people unless they're sort of in it that there's just things that are understood that
00:29:46.760 like you can't, you can't go and, and report something to the news and have them be like, yes,
00:29:51.760 you are completely correct. Whistleblower. We're going to report this all across the nation. And
00:29:56.180 within days, you're going to be in front of Congress. I mean, it usually takes people an
00:30:01.120 extremely long time, even if they're very famous to get a session with Congress. And this happened
00:30:05.840 right away. I even think about something like someone like Candace Owens, who, who was popular
00:30:10.180 for a couple of years before she got in front of Congress to talk about certain issues. Mark Zuckerberg,
00:30:15.200 it's very hard to get him in front of, um, Congress. And even when he does, he looks like
00:30:21.080 the robot for my robot sitting there sweating, trying to compute everything. But I thank you
00:30:26.120 for coming on April. Any last words for the audience before we let you go? Yeah, well,
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