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In this week's episode, I'm joined by Rachael Emanuel to talk all things United Conservative Party of Canada (UCP) leadership race, the leadership race in Alberta, and the leadership review process. We also discuss the recent leadership race results, and how the race is shaping up.
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welcome back to another very special andrew says i wasn't looking at the camera for some reason
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every episode is special isn't it everyone with me today rachel emmanuel who tells me that i can
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pronounce her name any way i want how are you doing i'm doing well today thank you true north
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now counter signal i believe and epoch times or you've basically got the whole country covered
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at this point i think yeah well that's the plan no one is safe info war is coming soon
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let's talk about alberta right off the jump here you're based out there in edmonton i think
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yeah exactly most of the time i mean there's a ucp leadership race going on right now some sort
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of all over the province but unfortunately based in edmonton why is that unfortunate
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well i mean i left ottawa you know to get away from the stench of the liberals and it's really
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not much better in edmonton to be honest well i'm glad it's not a literal stench unless it is i mean
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i call edmonton the oshawa of alberta city where i'm from i don't know if you're familiar with
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oshawa ontario the dirty schwa that's right i flew over edmonton landed there and i was like this is
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just a really big oshawa i feel like um just based on the infrastructure so the ucp leadership how do
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you see that rolling out from uh from this point on and i also wanted to ask you about jason kenny
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and where do you think people fell off with him and why he he left and everything do you think it
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was because of lockdowns and because you know a little bit of flip-flopping that he did give us your
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whole uh opinion on that sure so i mean i'll start with the ucp leadership race um it's been such a
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bizarre race like there hasn't been a ton of major scandals there's been like a lot of smaller um and
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sort of silly things like for example just yesterday someone was sending out robo calls pretending to be
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from the todd lowen campaign and todd lowen was like i had nothing to do with this there's been just
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like a lot of like smaller controversies and things like that but nothing super big um but yeah just
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like a lot of small silly things dropping off uh candidates sorry actually voters have already
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begun to receive their mail-in ballots so at this point i don't expect we'll see a lot of like huge
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information dropping because it wouldn't make sense for the campaigns to hold on to anything
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this late into the game because people are already sending back their mail-in ballots there is also
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going to be the option to vote in person on october 6th um and then the results will be announced
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that same day so danielle smith has pretty much been the front runner throughout this whole race
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i would say it's hers to lose at this point a lot of people that i've spoken to have said they think
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there's about a 10 chance that travis taves the former finance minister under jason kenney
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can pull off a win but i think everyone's pretty much expecting a danielle victory at this point
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it's just unclear you know if she's going to win on the first ballot or a little later into the
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rounds maybe after you know rebecca schultz and todd lowen drop off so that's how that shaping out
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we'll have obviously you know the results for that will be coming next month i'm looking forward
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to that i'm looking forward to the race being done um meanwhile you know in terms of jason kenney
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he had to resign after he got the results of his leadership review because no conservative
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leader leader has ever been able to stay on in their leadership role with such low support from
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within their own party so he really had no choice but to resign i think the thing that was most
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interesting about that is he kept saying you know i'm gonna stay on as long as i get 50 plus one if i stay on
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if i have a over 50 i have a mandate to continue that's what he told the press i actually interviewed
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him the day before his leadership results came in so you know you always have two stories ready the
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one for if he fails his leadership review versus if he passes so i had both those stories ready but i
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didn't have one for if he passes but chooses to resign anyways so i had to kind of quickly scramble
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which was a bit of a lesson learned that being said i think all of us media were caught pretty flat
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footed that day everyone was pretty shocked because they said his they said the results of his
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leadership review and it was over 50 and there was just like cheers from the room and then he
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comes on stage and he resigns anyways so everyone was really really caught off guard but he had no
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choice because as i said they were just such low numbers and he clearly didn't have the support of
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the party and i think people would have been coming for him at every turn anyways in terms of why he
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lost support i definitely think it was because of the restrictions that we saw during covet 19 one of the
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things you'll hear now is people will also say you know he didn't do enough on getting us a fair
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deal from ottawa that's something that a lot of the candidates have been talking about throughout the
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leadership race but i don't think if that alone would have been enough for people to have you know
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spurred this massive leadership race certainly everyone that i've talked to and people that i've been
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covering you know they're unhappy with kenny's lack of progress on getting a fair deal from ottawa but
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that's not the reason they started organizing to oust him the reason they started organizing to oust
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him is because of the restrictions that he put in place during covet 19 and especially that because
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pastors were arrested in alberta which isn't really something we saw elsewhere in canada and you know
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alberta is considered sort of canada's stronghold conservative providence and people didn't feel
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that that was what was being delivered during the pandemic do you feel that you're going to be able to
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trust this party under a new leadership do you do you think that it can actually i mean i don't know
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how you feel about all that stuff you just mentioned um but do you feel like you'd be able to trust
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the moving forward to not do something like this again i mean it really depends on the leader it is
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pretty crazy how much power like a leader of a political party has it's a bit too bad i think that a
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lot of times people complain mla certainly complain you know mpps in ontario and elsewhere they don't
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seem to have much of their own independent voice and when you do see people step out of line
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a lot of times they get kicked out of their caucus pretty quickly that was the case with
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roman babber over in ontario he didn't agree with doug ford's decisions on lockdowns he got
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booted from the caucus it was also the case here in alberta with todd lowen and drew barnes they
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spoke up against the lockdowns they didn't agree with them and they were also kicked out of their
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caucus so it really the person who's in power over the party at a given time has so much control over
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their caucus and really dictates what the messaging is going to be so i think it depends on who that
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individual person is i mean every political party across canada there's so much corruption i think it's
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something that surprised me so much when i first started being a reporter and as time goes on you
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just kind of shrug your shoulders and say this is the way that it is but you always hope that after
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a leadership race things will go a little bit differently you know in terms of the messaging
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that we've seen now coming from the candidates they have been really hesitant to say that they
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would lock down again because there's been so much opposition and everyone knows you know that's
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why kenny got removed even if they're not willing to admit that so most of the candidates have come
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out and said that's not something that they're willing to reconsider but you know politicians promise
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a lot of things during an election campaign and you don't necessarily know what they're going to do
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once they're in power do you have the same worry that i have with the federal conservative party
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that all those people we can call them elements that were in the party during the lockdowns are still
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there i mean with pierre in charge of the party or i guess the leader of the party who knows who's in
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the shadows but uh with him in the leadership role you still aaron o'toole still there um some of the
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more woker people are still there and definitely the people who said nothing during two years of
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lockdown are still there do you think that we start to see a shift uh towards more independent
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people or is that just too far off i'm thinking on a provincial level we could shift towards more
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independent people um especially with what happened in ontario and there were several people that
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spoke out a couple people resigned i guess or they're just not going to seek re-election um
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lindsey park is one of them and i think there's a way forward for people to get elected independently
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provincially federally i don't think there's much of a pathway to get away from the major parties
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how do you feel about that it doesn't seem like there's any pathway to move away from the two-party
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system that we pretty much see in ottawa i mean of course we have the ndps in the bloc quebec law so
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it's not quite as two-party system as we would see in the u.s for instance but it's so hard to make
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any movement on your own when you're outside of a party even if we think about you know during
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covid19 when aaron o'toole was in power and he really didn't wasn't in opposition at all he pretty
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much was like the liberal government's cheerleader and was like in some cases you know why aren't we
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adding restrictions quicker or faster so i think it was really disappointing that we saw just a total
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abysmal failure of the conservative party during covid19 at a time when it was so crucial to us to
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have a real opposition voice and you're absolutely correct like most of those people have not been
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held to count and most of those people are still within the party and we're all supposed to sort of
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say oh well you know that's over that's passed now even though a lot of these people have proven that
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they are unwilling to stand up and put their necks on the line when it does count that being said i know it
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can be very difficult within your party i know that if you lose you know your seat within the
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conservative party you're very likely to lose your seat if you're running as an independent
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that was the case for derrick sloan he was somebody that was willing to you know stand up for what he
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believed in and speak out against what was happening the o'toole conservatives sort of you know
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like abandoned him very quickly and did so in a pretty i think unfair way with the you might
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remember the attacks about how he had received a donation from a white supremacist
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as if everyone pays attention to every single person who gives them a donation like that's
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pretty ridiculous and the joke of course was that the same white supremacist was also a member of
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the conservative party so it was just totally ridiculous how that happened and then of course
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he did not you know win re-election in his seat he actually ran in alberta riding and his wife ran in
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his riding which was really interesting but neither of them you know were elected and then he tried his
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whole thing with you know having the ontario party this year which he was running and heading up
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and he ran again in the ontario provincial election he was unsuccessful to be elected there so
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it seems like unless you are a part of a mainstream political party it is very hard to get elected
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and i think a lot of these people think if i just bite my tongue hopefully i can you know be a voice
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for good later on in the future but i really need to keep my seat to do that and i do respect that
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for a bit but at the end of the day when everyone is so afraid of losing their job and then we see what
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we saw with the o'toole conservatives where none of them were willing to speak up during covid and i just
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felt like you know the voters and the constituents were not really getting value for what they were paying for
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and what they were expecting from their government yeah i 100 agree on all of that and for the
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politicians that are moving around trying to get elected in different places i think that's going
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to come back to bite them um it worked for leslund lewis uh she was able to turn that first nomination
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into um a victory but uh some of the stuff that sloan was doing almost seemed like revenge and it
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didn't work out for him um in the long run it turns out switching gears a little bit did you see justin
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singing i want to play that olivia please for anyone who hasn't were you impressed by his singing chops
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is it better if he's drunk or sober do you think in that i have i have no idea i have no way of
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knowing either way but what do you think would be better drunk for sure it would kind of be funny
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if he was just drunk i picture him he's in this room he's like all the attention's gotta be on me
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you guys let's pull up the piano i'll sing all the greatest hits he needs an album is this
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we're it's at this point now where he does everything so embarrassingly that it's almost not
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even embarrassing anymore i mean obviously it is but do you expect any better from him at this
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point i don't think the media can even grasp how ridiculous it is when they i forget which outlet it
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is but one of them was saying how he's giving a tribute to the queen by singing queen or what
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world are we in i know it's just so insane and to your point i think it was you know rebel news
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is sheila gun reed that said when she heard there was going to be the funeral in london she was like
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oh no like what is trudeau gonna do to embarrass us now and it's so true like the man literally
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cannot leave canadian soil without doing something so embarrassing on the international stage like the
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other countries and i actually found like the american media was more appalled over this than
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canadian media which is you know maybe not overly surprising but they were all like this is such a
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joke like this man cannot be serious and once again trudeau has found a way to just absolutely
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embarrass the canadian reputation on the international stage no wonder you know the joke canada is not a
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real country is going around but i suppose i hope that he was drinking a little bit in the video
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because i would just be so concerned that anyone would have the confidence to sing that song in such
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a terrible way that he sang it and clearly was unable to hit a lot of those notes while sober like you
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think you would maybe know a little bit better but you know you know if he had a couple drinks
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could excuse him a little bit for the bad singing not for what he'd done he is a world leader on an
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international country people are going to be paying attention to you and taking photos and videos of you at
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every opportunity he knew this was going to be public and he didn't care i would like to see the
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full video that's not a short song and there's a lot of ebbs and flows to it olivia did you say it's
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the toronto star who said that let's see that i want to read that uh that budding review of justin trudeau
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oh i'm gonna have to put on some glasses no no that's fine
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god you're making me look young um i'm 19 rachel just in case you're wondering uh prime minister
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justin trudeau's impromptu tribute to queen included a hotel piano and bohemian rhapsody
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the idea that there's a connection between the song they happen to record him singing
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and the queen of england is so ridiculous that you have to be typing that out and being like
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i better get hired by the trudeau administration for writing this um maybe another song maybe like
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um stairway to heaven he could have done there's a lot of songs i'd like to see him sing but that
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was basically a sketch and you're right whenever he goes out to a different country he somehow loses
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like i remember when he went to india and he danced and and uh dressed up in their traditional
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garb he still came away with a losing trade deal that was a great part of it that not only did he
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embarrass himself internationally he had an embarrassing trade deal where we gave them uh three to one in
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terms of monetary exchange like it was a bad deal financially and he managed he so he managed to
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fails on all fronts i don't know what other countries he can go to there's that meme where it's um
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all the different things he's dressed up as can you find that olivia
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thank you um what was your take on and we'll get back to that i promise what was your take on this
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exchange between uh polyev and the global news guy david aiken did you have an opinion on that did
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you think it was as bad as a lot of people said or and i and i want to get to what jagmeet said i
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watched that earlier or did you think it was a little bit overblown what did you think about that
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so i actually used to be a reporter on parliament hell i've been in those press conferences many many
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times i've never seen a reporter sort of the word being used and i think probably pretty correctly was
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heckle i've never seen another reporter heckle anyone who was speaking at any point like anything even
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remotely close to that certainly there are times when political leaders are unwilling to take
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questions and they kind of come and deliver remarks and you know that's of course frustrating for the
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media i do agree that you know politicians should be held accountable when they're delivering a new
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policy or proposal they should be willing to take questions and the other sort of interesting
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caveat is that i think polyev is really really good with the media he's good on his feet
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you know he's quick and he sort of handles them when they're being a bit silly or they're asking dumb
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questions i was always afraid to ask him questions in those press conferences because if he thinks your
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question is stupid he will absolutely let you know and he had definitely he's definitely embarrassed
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me once or twice in a press conference so he's so good with the media and i don't understand why
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he would shy away from taking questions from them especially as a new leader i do think it makes him
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look weak that being said you know that's not really the point of the story um that's not really what
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we're talking about here so i've never seen a reporter sort of heckle somebody like that before
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so the fact that you know david aiken did that was really quite bizarre um i didn't think that it was
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appropriate i think he should have waited till the end and then sort of yelled out his questions as
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polyev was walking away not being said in a way it was effective like my understanding of the
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situation was that polyev's press secretary had sort of said to me we're not going to be taking any
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questions today and that really did not sit well with david aiken so he kind of continued to heckle
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polyev throughout the press conference until he finally agreed to take some questions um so he did
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kind of get what he wanted of the situation and i was also told that i don't think he even
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actually asked his questions at the end of it he allowed other reporters to take questions i'm not
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sure if that's totally true i just you know talked to another reporter in the gallery and that was
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um their version of the events so you know it is reporters job to ask questions i just think the
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thing that was mostly like the biggest takeaway was like they would never do that with trudeau and they
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have never done that with trudeau so it showed such an obvious bias like if you want to be really hard
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with the media or like if you if media wants to be really tough with politicians then do it to all of them
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don't just do it to the conservatives who everyone already knows you have a huge bias against
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yeah i don't see any yelling at any other politicians not even doug ford nobody dared
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question him for two years but let's play that jag meat clip because i thought the angle facing david
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aiken away from a pierre was a lot more revealing first of all showing that there's not actually that
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many people there but uh he started heckling the entire time like there wasn't you know he didn't sit
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through a long speech by poliev and just say when are you going to answer any questions he started
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right from the beginning and i think what jag meat i don't know if jag meat didn't see the whole thing
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or he just wants to be loved by the media it's probably the latter but what he says here and let's
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play this livy now i think is a little dishonest but he called that journalist a liberal heckler what do
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you think about that you know i i watched the the video and uh you know from one perspective it
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sounded like someone who's interrupting him and then when i saw the cutaway and this is an important
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thing for people to do sometimes you you see one view and it looks like okay maybe it was uh maybe
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it was some heckling and then i saw the full view of what happened and it was just a question are you
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going to take questions or why aren't you taking questions and it seemed a pretty normal thing
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something that's happened to me before people ask if i'm going to take questions it seems like a
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pretty standard thing if i'm going to come before a group of folks professionals whose job it is to
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to write um the news that they're going to ask me some questions about my positions i can't expect
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that and the fact that instead of taking questions or saying no i'm not going to take questions simple
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answer uh to to make it into an attack um seemed a bit uh weak as a as a response like why not just say
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no or say yeah i'll take questions and so it seemed like a bit of a weak approach to then somehow make
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it into someone's political partisan political position and i think it's an example of a lack
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of the strength to be able to to be able to stand up and say what you want and and defend your position
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now i think one of two things is happening here with dear old jagmeet either he didn't see the full
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video or he's trying to pull this cool guy move where he's like i actually went and investigated
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and and went through the fake news and saw it and that's what everybody else should do and i'm the
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honest guy and uh but it sounds like uh he agrees with you a little bit in finding it weak but i will
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give mr jagmeet the credit that he has answered questions from even daring to answer rebel news a
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couple times even though he says it's his policy not to um unlike trudeau and then uh mr lagoe so i don't
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know what do you take away from jagmeet from that like is he a guy that you think is honest that just
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has bad ideas or do you think he's you know completely out of it i think you're maybe being
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a little too generous with mr jagmeet saying i think that he is a terrible and ineffective politician
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that is in probably no way you know he despises polyev and polyev's popularity and probably recognizes
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that the ndp are going to be fairly wiped out in the next election especially if he remains
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the ndp leader as he has been so ineffective and continues to lose seats at every opportunity
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i'm sure he saw the whole video and i'm sure he's very clearly lying about what happened in that
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exchange it wasn't a simple little like back and forth question i agree that polyev looked weak only
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because he was unwilling to take questions from the beginning i don't think he looked weak in how he
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framed it i think how he framed it was actually really advantageous for him especially as someone who
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was branded himself as disliking the mainstream media and wanting to defund the cvc
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and i think the biggest joke about what jagmeet singh says is that he literally never gives the
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media like a straight answer whenever there's anything contentious going on he gives these
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wishy-washy answers and is never willing to speak clearly about what his policy is like
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for example when i used to work on the hill a lot of times we'd ask him you know are you going to
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support the the liberals bill are you gonna you know support the speech from the throne things like
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that would literally never give a straight yes or no answer would sort of said oh you know well
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we haven't and just couldn't say yes or no ever and i found that's very much his leadership style
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because he probably doesn't like to be held to account for things and would kind of wait to the
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last minute and not speak to media about it so i don't think he's very clear with his policies at
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all and i think it's pretty ironic the response that he gave were you there when he cried
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i don't even remember this you have to jog my memory when he said that somebody was being racist
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to him and the speaker wouldn't make the person leave or apologize he uh came out after and cried
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because he said he faces stuff like that all the time and so do so many people who look like him
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they're facing constant constant racism that's what he cried about the thing about the ndp is is
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that no matter how much their candidates lose they don't get rid of them or they don't ask them to
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step down andrea horvath jagmeet singh have lost i think three elections each now in a row and nothing
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changes at all there's i don't think there's any other major political party in the west that will do
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that maybe it's i mean maxime bernier but maybe the very small parties will do that but jagmeet
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i think loses a little bit of ground each time and uh especially in a time when things are so polarized
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he should be popular amongst left-wing people but luckily i think there's this big swath of
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of the boomer mentality in canada that keeps trudeau in office but you would think that in some way
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he would benefit from people saying the liberals aren't liberal enough and we're going further
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left but that just doesn't seem to happen and andrea horvath is just a wildly unintelligent
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candidate that i can't uh i can't explain how she keeps her job did we have um a clip of him crying
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or anything do we remember that jagmeet crying should bring it up no there that looks like it's right
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i'll show rachel that in canada we have not seen any action there's been no action the prime minister
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took a knee but didn't bring any policy changes in the states they moved quicker on some policy
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changes than even canada and we think canada is a progressive country but canada did not bring
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forward any changes to the federal policing so people are angry people are frustrated so today we
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brought forward a motion and the motion was a pretty simple motion tackling systemic racism is
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going to take a lot of work and a lot of effort but there's some clear steps we can take one is to
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call out that yes indeed everyone in this house the house of commons in parliament acknowledges that
00:24:15.180
there is systemic racism in the rcmp let's name that and make it clear and then we went on in the
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motion to lay out some really clear steps de-escalation should be your priority i don't think anyone can
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disagree with that we should be reviewing use of force because people should not be brutally beaten
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up over an expired license plate and we put forward some changes around shouldn't we respond to a health
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crisis with health care workers shouldn't they get funding instead of police and in that moment we put
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forward this motion that i thought given where we are given what's going on given the lack of action
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here is something we can do concretely to actually make a difference and when the motion was presented
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i heard a lot of people saying yes and the speaker was about to move forward and accept that there
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was a lot of yeses and then i heard one no and the speaker didn't hear it and then that mp repeated
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louder so he could be heard and i looked back and he saw me look back and and kind of shocked that
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anyone would say no to this motion federal jurisdiction clear path to do something about systemic racism
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in a moment where everyone's demanding action and i look back and i saw that mp not only say no but
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make eye contact with me and just kind of brush his hand dismiss it and in that moment i got angry
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why can't we do something to save people's lives
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he calls somebody racist and then he cries is the best part about it
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i love that i'm glad i got to be the one to show you that
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can't we do something based on something that happened in a different country
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i love when canadian politicians try to do like it's the same thing with like the abortion
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legislation when roe v wade was revoked in the states and all of a sudden that became a canadian
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issue and in every major newspaper across canada there was a story about it and i was like
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this literally has nothing to do with canada we have no abortion laws here like we should
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definitely have some we don't have any i don't think anyone needs to be worrying about abortion
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rights being rolled back like it was just the stupidest thing and same with jegmeet's crocodile
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tears i also love when politicians try to like present these like flashy motions
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that include you know so many things but they just have like this headline piece
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and they try to make it all about that and then when someone votes against it oh well
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that person's clearly a racist well you're right they do do that with everything they did that with
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roe v wade i believe the narrative at that point was there's not enough
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access there needs to be more abortion clinics and then of course they do that with guns as well
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there's a shooting in the u.s that means we need to take this opportunity to restrict more guns
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it's uh it's a lovely time in a lovely place and uh things are getting better and better and by which
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i mean worse of course are you familiar with what's happening here in uh it's oakville the i almost said
00:27:25.580
halton but it's the halton uh school board uh can we just bring up a b-roll or something olivia of the
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gigantic boob guy don't worry everybody i asked rachel if she's okay with this um this is just
00:27:40.080
if it wasn't children involved it'd be way funnier but the fact that this guy is doing a shop class
00:27:49.020
going against first of all safety hazards here with the hair i believe when i was getting really
00:27:54.240
close to slicing off one of his boobs as well like that is not enough like i would not be comfortable
00:27:59.360
with that at all in high school shop class the girls are supposed to wear their hair up so it
00:28:04.560
doesn't get caught in a saw or um what's the uh the planer because that'll suck you right in but um
00:28:12.560
david our own david menzies interviewed the director of the halton district school board and he told him
00:28:18.460
that the uh dress code wasn't for teachers it was for students only because this guy has fake nipples
00:28:23.920
showing and that they 100 stand behind him it's outrageous and i think if you're a parent who has
00:28:32.840
a kid that goes there either you pull them out or the entire school board has to go this is just my
00:28:38.260
opinion i i want to ask you how you feel about it but i think the whole school board has to go and
00:28:43.300
even in the interview they're telling david menzies uh that he needs to refer to him as with his proper
00:28:48.620
pronouns did you just say i noticed you're saying he and those aren't his pronouns we respect everyone
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based on the human rights code and i was sort of thinking when i heard that like this is what
00:28:58.280
everybody said was going to happen when you not only enlisted these human rights tribunals but also
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when you said it was okay for a person to just say they're another gender because you've seen the stuff
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with bathrooms that happened in the in the u.s as well um and even uh some creators years ago when
00:29:16.820
got their um their sex changed very easily and and i'd like to see an update on that story somebody
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should do that again but this is exactly what people warned about i think where you can just say
00:29:29.580
hey i'm a woman now and you literally can't do anything about it you can uh do literally whatever
00:29:34.940
you want and nobody can tell you i think there's a family guy clip going on around this right now
00:29:39.600
where a transgender person can do anything they want but i want to get your take on this what do
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you think is the appropriate action if any to take against a teacher who i would say and you can
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disagree if you want is you know bringing sexualization into the classroom the images that
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we've seen in the videos are so disturbing i grew up in the niagara region so about 45 minutes away from
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oakville and i guess i shouldn't have been surprised to see this happening there because of just how
00:30:08.780
ridiculous everything has gone especially in ontario like the ontario government has not been
00:30:13.140
doing anything about some of the crazy trans stuff that we've seen introduced being introduced into
00:30:17.400
schools but you know i was really surprised when i saw these videos i was expect i was surprised to
00:30:21.840
see it in oakville so close to my home it's very disturbing and you can see in all the clips of the
00:30:26.500
children are so uncomfortable and i mean these students would not be taking videos and photos of their
00:30:31.860
teacher and posting it online if they thought that it was a normal and healthy thing for them to be
00:30:35.960
doing they're obviously thinking that this is totally insane and bizarre which it is and i just
00:30:41.380
don't think it's comfortable for those students to have to be in that situation it's not even any just
00:30:45.820
transition it's just how ridiculous the transition is and that anyone would even have to like look at
00:30:52.040
those boobs or like be around them like he literally was inches away from cutting them off when he was in
00:30:56.420
the shop class like it's just the most insane thing and you can literally see his nipples through his
00:31:01.000
shirt like that's not a normal thing even as a woman like if you were to go to school if you were
00:31:05.320
a student you get in trouble for like your bra strap showing at a lot of public schools even like
00:31:10.320
female students would so certainly if this was a female student who had a situation similar i'm sure
00:31:15.180
the school would step up and say something but when it's a male teacher that's transitioned all of a
00:31:19.060
sudden it's totally okay even though they're putting their young male students in a really vulnerable
00:31:23.120
and uncomfortable situation i believe it's directly against the dress code to have nipples showing
00:31:29.240
which is insane that we have to talk about this about high school kids but apparently that doesn't apply
00:31:34.240
to teachers somehow i don't get how that works do you think that there should be a statement given
00:31:40.220
by any politicians i made this comment yesterday that it would be a wonderful world where like you
00:31:46.220
know doug ford or pierre or somebody made a comment about whether they agree with or disagree with this
00:31:52.180
or do you think it's just you know not wise of them to say anything about it no i think they should
00:31:58.060
all say something about it i'm a little tired of though it's not safe it's not wise to be honest
00:32:02.140
with you people being afraid to speak up is what got us into the situation that we were in during
00:32:06.540
covid so i don't really have a lot of time or patience or people that are fearful to speak up
00:32:10.360
against things that are obviously wrong and twisted these days so i think they should absolutely
00:32:15.360
be willing to speak up against it i think that it's not sane it's not normal you need to stop
00:32:19.180
acting like it's normal i completely agree i'm glad you said that i think that if they're supposed
00:32:25.160
to be these conservatives which again i don't truly have faith in them that they are i think
00:32:31.380
the overton window keeps shifting and shifting or as my friend john doyle says the slippery slope is
00:32:36.560
real they keep going along with it and if they at some point somebody's gonna have to you know put
00:32:41.240
their foot down and say we are a party that's against this we're a party that's against um you know
00:32:47.620
boys and girls sports for example and that was one of the problems they had with leslyn lewis she
00:32:52.120
wouldn't really answer that question from a reporter but i think there's a time and it's
00:32:56.880
probably now to start standing up against this stuff because we see it's an international story
00:33:01.800
and the fact that conservatives in america who are more conservative than the canadian parties
00:33:08.860
are saying what's going on up there and they're actually you know they're kind of doing stuff that's
00:33:13.860
the thing in texas didn't uh get followed through upon but there's a clear cultural you know stance
00:33:20.060
against this sort of thing growing and growing especially if you're a tucker carlson fan that i
00:33:25.120
think they would win many many points if they came out and said something but having said that
00:33:30.940
just like i mentioned they're afraid of twitter they're afraid of cbc articles and they're afraid of
00:33:37.700
you know 12 people online basically saying that they're they're mean or something i mean isn't that
00:33:43.360
not what it comes down to um girls saying that it's mean to you know call this guy a guy
00:33:50.240
and i don't know how you feel about that yeah i mean there's definitely going to be some pushback
00:33:55.020
against it but i don't think it matters i think that it doesn't matter if there's pushback like you
00:33:59.220
need to be willing to say these things nowadays you know we finally have some politicians that are
00:34:03.660
willing to speak against something where they're willing to speak against the covet 19 restrictions that
00:34:07.480
we saw albeit it is convenient now as the freedom movement has sort of moved that way and
00:34:11.220
they've sent the sense that the winds have changed and you know maybe it's not as popular in canada
00:34:15.500
to say that men are men and women are women but those things still need to be said and we need to
00:34:20.660
have people who are willing to say it and when it comes to sort of the woke gender ideology this is
00:34:24.760
one of the most harmful things that we're seeing right now and in canada you're right we're not having
00:34:29.640
those conversations yet and we need to because so what if we change the government and we're able to
00:34:34.000
sort of pull back some of the insane things that we've seen the liberal government do and get
00:34:37.960
canada on the right track again through legislation and also the economy it won't matter if we hand it
00:34:43.820
down to this next generation that's been lied and deceived to and abused and right now they are they
00:34:48.600
are being harmed and no one is speaking out against it and we're doing our the next generation a
00:34:52.400
disservice and we've even seen that here in alberta a little bit i asked some of the candidates
00:34:56.520
questions about you know how they felt about men performing in women's sports and a lot of the
00:35:01.520
candidates weren't willing to say anything against it even here in alberta so you know it is
00:35:05.880
definitely a problem that we're seeing across the board and it's something that we need to start
00:35:08.860
speaking out against more and i'm glad that we have so many independent you know conservative
00:35:12.840
media outlets that are all willing to write about these things i think the post-millennial has done
00:35:16.420
a really good job at exposing some of the crazy woke gender stuff that we that we've seen and of
00:35:21.100
course you know rebel news has been on as well counter signal as well but we need to see our
00:35:24.940
politicians start speaking against it and to be honest with you politics usually follows culture so if our
00:35:30.240
voices are loud enough i think eventually it will give them no choice but to have to start speaking about it
00:35:34.660
rachel emmanuel next prime minister you guys uh running it for uh office in a town near you
00:35:41.060
go up to do the move go up to none of it or something run for office there unopposed
00:35:46.880
um 20 votes to five will be the result or something and i think you can get a spot in the conservative
00:35:54.260
party in the near future rachel i don't know i think i might be too conservative for them
00:35:58.280
probably and uh i don't know are you a big uh ppc girl or do you not want to say i understand if you
00:36:05.440
don't want to say i i actually think i sound like i i signed like a ppc founding document when i was
00:36:11.700
in like grade 11 which is so hilarious um and then it got really big later on so i was totally ahead of
00:36:17.180
the trend on that one what if i run under the conservative banner and then just sort of quickly
00:36:21.220
slip away and we'll probably get kicked out of caucus and then i can be the first ppc mp in
00:36:26.640
ottawa that'd be pretty cool i think you're revealing your age here for some people will
00:36:30.760
be able to do the math um when ppc sent this letter around somebody's we have to get a
00:36:35.860
canada land research team on that or something the hit piece is coming it is i'm making notes about
00:36:42.900
it right now rachel thank you so much for joining me anything else you want to say before we let you
00:36:47.340
go no very happy to be here thank you for having me it's great to be talking about some of these
00:36:52.120
things i appreciate you have a good day okay okay thanks take care
00:36:56.280
sent aside where they get to the stalling house side where they get to the walk and no side for
00:37:01.200
the people as often rush limbo you know that i'm talking hey rush limbo you know that i'm talking
00:37:07.500
hey look rush limbo you know that i'm sent aside i don't trust a single soul inside need the youth
00:37:14.980
denies sit on their ass while they loot the guys with their suits and ties we rip them off with
00:37:19.980
the strength of gods if i see nancy pelosi or kevin mccarthy we fighting like budakide yeah