Rebel News Podcast - ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Trusting the Rittenhouse Plan w⧸ John Doyle & Vince Dao

00:00:00.000 John Doyle is a political commentator who hosts heck off commie on YouTube with 330,000

00:00:27.180 subscribers and is often seen on blaze tvs you are here and slightly offensive vince dow is a popular

00:00:33.000 gen z commentator who is the chair of the american populist union when he was in high school his

00:00:38.420 classmates tried to stop him from being valedictorian just for his conservative views

00:00:42.980 both i'm happy or unhappy to say have been kicked off of twitter welcome gentlemen vince john how

00:00:48.980 are you guys doing quite well thank you for having us here our favorite leaf andrew host of the

00:00:55.560 immensely popular andrew says show we're excited to be here yeah i agree it's great to be here

00:01:01.800 great to be back like he said with my favorite canadian um yeah appreciate the good words you

00:01:08.080 guys lockdown situations we just went into a lockdown you guys um curfew in quebec what's

00:01:13.980 the situation where you guys are are we feeling any coronavirus at all no not in texas and even

00:01:21.200 i went back home for christmas uh and i was back in southeast michigan which you know that's where

00:01:26.140 gretchen whitmer was wielding a lot of power illegally arguably during like the height of

00:01:30.320 this pandemic so to speak and i went back there and nobody actually is buying into it anymore which is

00:01:35.260 good because even when like it was actually a right-wing position when this all started in like

00:01:39.060 march of 2020 to be like skeptical of covid because there was some of that being charged by this anti-china

00:01:44.080 sentiment but it was the left who was mobilizing the sort of rhetoric that trump was trying to

00:01:48.860 manufacture this crisis to stay in office which i was kind of crossing my fingers for a little bit

00:01:53.240 but that didn't end up happening so then as everything came out that it was actually like

00:01:56.580 just bs now people on the right became skeptical of it now basically are just denying that it's

00:02:01.100 actually like a real thing and so you see a lot of that reflected throughout the masses where

00:02:04.580 people aren't even wearing masks anymore they're still going out in public attending concerts going to

00:02:09.120 restaurants and this is new because throughout the summer and probably for the better part of the last

00:02:14.760 like nine months or so people were still doing that but they were still wearing face masks because

00:02:19.080 they understood that this is like what the herd is doing so to speak and they didn't want to get you

00:02:23.240 know uh caught into some sort of viral incident they didn't want the confrontation so they're like

00:02:27.280 okay i'll wear the mask but now slowly over time people now aren't even doing that which is good

00:02:31.720 because the masks in themselves were never a display of like a defense against like some sort of um you

00:02:37.920 know virus or something like that because even on the the masks um packaging it says this doesn't

00:02:42.480 actually prevent like a viral infection or something like the whole point of the masks was

00:02:46.200 basically a gesture of conformity to the narratives which is why if you were not wearing a mask a mask

00:02:51.640 during the height of the pandemic people wouldn't give you a look of like fear like as if you walked

00:02:55.720 in with like an ar-15 to a public place or something they gave you a look of like disgust like you're not

00:03:00.480 doing that thing we're all supposed to be doing it was like a dirty look the same way that if you

00:03:03.600 walked into a store without pants or something they would give you that dirty look because what you're

00:03:07.580 doing is deviant from what we're supposed to be doing this is what we're supposed to be doing and it makes

00:03:11.580 them uncomfortable because what you're doing is demonstrating that it is possible to be deviant

00:03:16.340 from that sort of manufactured group consensus so i would predict that this whole thing is basically

00:03:21.260 going to be over by may and even the media is starting to catch up now you know there really

00:03:25.400 is like a sort of a delay the same way there's a delay between what conservatism is saying and what

00:03:30.420 liberalism was saying 10 years ago there is a delay between what the media is saying and what right-wing

00:03:35.940 anonymous twitter accounts were saying 18 months ago and now you're starting to see the media play

00:03:40.480 catch-up because they have midterms coming up and of course they exist as like the sort of adjacent

00:03:43.960 arm of the democrat party and in the state and the regime and what have you so now they're starting

00:03:48.720 to say well you know the masks don't really pretend protect against transmissions neither do the

00:03:53.860 vaccines all of this is kind of you know redundant and even joe biden basically said because now people

00:03:59.060 are like well we have 300 000 cases a day and joe biden basically said like go back to work jack

00:04:02.920 get over it and so the saddest thing i think about it all though is that this really is just going to be

00:04:08.920 memory hold within the masses like people are just going to forget that this was like actually a thing

00:04:12.740 that happened they're going to forget the lies they're going to forget how many businesses were

00:04:15.960 destroyed how many people died 10 times as many people dying as a result of the policies that crushed

00:04:20.820 the middle class compared to how many actually were supposedly have uh died from the virus things

00:04:25.480 like that so it's probably the greatest psyop in human history i would say stealing my talking

00:04:30.860 points john uh vince you're still in california right and can we full screen when uh when you're

00:04:36.140 talking there we go no you're not i need to catch up no yeah actually i've been living in florida since

00:04:41.920 like last like august yeah so i mean out here it's florida you know every everyone knows the story i think

00:04:47.180 i don't think it's a shock to anyone how that all works out here but i actually went home um for

00:04:52.640 christmas you know back to la and it was the opposite of what john said like it's it's literally

00:04:57.920 everyone's still wearing masks and all that stuff um actually i mean the thing about people in la is

00:05:03.340 you know they just they're very hypochondriac when it comes to this stuff and they just have

00:05:06.820 low impulse control in general so like the second there's any like news of any new spike or anything

00:05:11.840 like that immediately it's like oh my gosh oh my gosh like everyone just basically still freaks out

00:05:17.140 even though this has happened like every single time right delta uh the second third waves of the

00:05:21.700 original one all this stuff now they're like still extremely like freakish about this stuff you go in lax

00:05:26.960 many double masks i saw many of them it was it was insane like it was just all over the place

00:05:32.380 um so la i i don't know you know that you know the story of that place that place is a lost cause

00:05:36.980 it probably resembles canada in a lot of ways um actually i could barely go anywhere in la because

00:05:42.360 i you know i'm not vaccinated i'm not going to make a fake vaccine card you know people

00:05:45.940 do that thing and oh i'm so cool i'm such a rebel against the system like no you're actually just

00:05:50.520 basically playing into the system you're getting around it but you're still enabling the mandate so i

00:05:54.220 wasn't going to do that so i barely went anywhere didn't see any of my high school friends because

00:05:58.240 of that reason but um yeah back here in florida great to be back here um and i i think john is

00:06:05.040 right too i think that we're kind of now reaching the point where it's just basically going to be

00:06:09.700 given up i know the kind of boomer talking point is like well they're just going to keep wielding

00:06:13.500 power for as long as they can wield power which is true but i think they're kind of running out of

00:06:17.120 that point where it's like useful to them at all really to like continue to be locking people down

00:06:22.160 or or you know mask mandates or whatever i think probably the new front is going to be the vax mandates

00:06:26.840 right that that's probably the new kind of angle by which they're going to wield power and even then

00:06:31.380 i think they're struggling a lot with that because you know you're seeing labor shortages you're seeing

00:06:35.920 mass economic loss which i guess they're willing to take some of but the question is it's kind of

00:06:40.420 going to be this whole situation of push and pull like who's going to basically cave first you know

00:06:45.160 at the end of the day if enough unvaccinated people decide you know we're literally going to

00:06:49.620 boycott the economy unless we're allowed in you know i i don't see how long they can keep that up for

00:06:53.800 but i think that's kind of the new that's the new front right it's no longer really about fighting

00:06:57.720 lockdowns or even mask mandates to a large extent is probably the vaccine stuff they literally are

00:07:03.400 incapable incapable of understanding how political power works they literally cannot understand that

00:07:09.220 which is why of course that which defines the boomer is simply the inability to understand that

00:07:12.960 things have changed and it's like they think they sort of have this infantile conception of how power

00:07:17.400 is wielded because their entire concept of power has been spoon fed to them by hollywood and by

00:07:22.840 public education and so when they think of power they think of this one guy who just really just

00:07:27.820 gets off on making people have to like oh you have to listen to me and it's this one guy which is not

00:07:32.320 how it works part of how liberal democracy maintains its tyranny is by convincing people

00:07:37.140 through mass media brainwashing that they have consented to the tyranny and so this is what you see

00:07:41.700 with like voting for example like obviously the oligarchs and the ruling class are going to do whatever

00:07:45.240 they're going to do anyways but they have to hold elections so that people think well i have

00:07:48.840 consented to this therefore it's true and what we saw in the 2020 election was a little bit of uh

00:07:53.520 we'll say fortifying in favor of who the ruling class wanted to be in office which of course was

00:07:58.880 joe biden but you can only do that to such a certain extent so for example republicans have been

00:08:03.720 winning uh republican or i should say presidential elections for the last you know 60 years or so but

00:08:09.060 if you look categorically speaking they've been winning them by slimmer margins each time so like

00:08:13.580 donald trump i think the number is uh 80 000 votes he won by across like three states in 2016

00:08:18.560 so he was immensely more popular in 2020 than he was in 2016 but still they were able to manufacture

00:08:24.740 these these ballots in urban areas and were able to like override that and so it's like with midterms

00:08:30.520 coming up they know that there's going to be a huge red wave because joe biden is so unprecedentedly

00:08:35.960 unpopular virtually every metric by which you could measure the success of a presidency is showing that

00:08:40.980 he's absolutely tanking the country and it's like okay they have to kind of ease off the gas a little

00:08:45.300 bit because they know that they can only correct within a certain margin of error uh in a way that

00:08:49.920 would fortify the election in a result that they want it to go in and so with something so unpopular

00:08:54.140 like all the covid draconian restrictions they know that they now have to ease off of that in order to

00:08:58.800 kind of make things a little bit more realistic for them in terms of making the election go the way that

00:09:03.280 they want to go in the 2022 midterms see that's what i was thinking about here because we have

00:09:08.580 provincial elections state elections coming up uh for three provinces this year you guys have the

00:09:14.220 midterms even australia has an election i'm pretty sure but they just locked us down again for at least

00:09:19.500 another three weeks i don't know if this is their big play to you know say look how the boosters work

00:09:25.320 or or what they're doing with that but like i mentioned before quebec has a curfew now uh vince what

00:09:31.700 are you thinking is it uh do you blame the politicians at this point for going as far as they can

00:09:37.380 are you blaming people for not standing up obviously you uh voted with your feet which i'm

00:09:42.300 hoping to do at some point if i'm allowed to leave the country what do you think about this

00:09:46.160 well you know like john brought up in a liberal democracy it's always kind of a mix of both right

00:09:52.200 i think it's definitely true that the people at this point because i think part of the reason why

00:09:57.640 you don't see that stuff so much in america is because you know generally just the american spirit

00:10:02.260 like americans are more resistant even like liberal americans as compared to liberal canadians or

00:10:06.620 are more resistant to that stuff and i think they just kind of knew all along that some type

00:10:11.660 of lockdown like that wouldn't be possible but at the same time you can't just entirely blame like

00:10:16.320 the masses because what are the masses in any population especially in like a democratic society

00:10:20.860 you know the masses are simply a product of the institutions and the media inside of mass narratives

00:10:26.520 that kind of form what the masses think so you know i think i think it's a two-way street and i

00:10:30.940 don't want to bring up the whole boomer talking point of like it's just time for people to wake up

00:10:34.780 but uh you know in a way i guess that kind of has to happen so john do you really are you really

00:10:40.780 predicting a red wave for 2022 for the midterms i mean yeah absolutely and i i agree with vince's

00:10:47.500 point about uh these sort of i guess you'd say misconceptualized like narratives that the boomers

00:10:53.600 tell themselves about these moments of mass awakening where everyone is just gonna wake up

00:10:57.540 and we're gonna take the country back and it's like every time they fantasize about this it really

00:11:01.600 is such a cope because it's always taken to the extreme so it's never we're gonna wake up and

00:11:05.620 we're gonna go we're gonna go door knocking for like an authentically right-wing candidate or we're

00:11:09.140 gonna wake up and we're gonna hold a protest or some form of rally it's always we're gonna wake up

00:11:13.360 and we're gonna they start fed posting like boomers the boomer to fed posting pipeline is so real

00:11:18.940 but there is something to be said about that explain that people sorry explain that point what

00:11:24.820 uh for those who those who aren't going to get fed posting so fed posting is uh it's it's slang for

00:11:31.680 when you say something that is that could get you in trouble with like federal police and so it said

00:11:36.820 that because a lot of times what you see is these federal informants or federal agents will literally

00:11:42.160 infiltrate right-wing exclusively right-wing by the way uh spheres of conversation whether that be online

00:11:48.120 or even like militias or something and they'll start saying things to try to entrap people so this is

00:11:52.820 what happened with that whole gretchen whitmer kidnapping thing they were in these group chats

00:11:56.480 and they were like hey what if we kidnap the governor and someone was like yeah what if and

00:11:59.860 then they got arrested and because you know that came across gretchen whitmer's desk as it does or came

00:12:05.180 across her uh you know um chief of staff or her comms person's desk and they had to make a decision as

00:12:11.400 to what to do with that story and because this was the same time that she was immensely unpopular because

00:12:16.820 of all these restrictions that she was implementing in michigan she chose to employ that story as a pr thing

00:12:22.740 so that she could victimize herself and sort of have this mythos of i'm doing right by the

00:12:27.620 michiganders and people are trying to take me down for it what was me i'm a victim and that worked

00:12:33.820 really well for her um but it was it was not the case and so what i'm what i mean by that is that

00:12:38.080 boomers will often you know jump straight to we have to rise up and take the country back like this

00:12:43.360 sort of like revolution scenario which not only is that unrealistic and even if it were realistic in

00:12:48.280 terms of like the mobilization of the right we would get absolutely just creamed by uh by the left

00:12:54.980 and by the regime so that's not a good idea anyways and anyone who thinks otherwise is lying to you or

00:12:59.040 getting paid by the fbi so it is true though that if there were something that could make the masses

00:13:05.080 sort of wake up it's not going to be to an extent where they wake up and all of a sudden they agree with

00:13:09.960 us on all the issues but when you can cut off the material conditions that the masses are used to

00:13:16.020 and you can limit their access relatively speaking to what they were used to uh to things like food

00:13:21.500 and entertainment and sex they will kind of start to realize like wait a minute this isn't right

00:13:25.760 and they will probably vote against uh the incumbent regime not necessarily they're going to be your

00:13:31.040 guys and they're going to bring that energy to your side but they will vote against the incumbent

00:13:35.280 regime in most cases so i think when we say red red wave it's not so much all of a sudden these

00:13:40.360 people are like red pilled it's more like they're realizing hey whatever we're doing now isn't quite

00:13:44.180 working i'm gonna i'm gonna see what these guys are on about did you guys see i think it was the

00:13:48.720 daily mail they found that guy from january 6th the one who was saying let's go to the capitol i'm

00:13:54.040 probably gonna get arrested for saying this the guy did you guys say that um he's riding his lawnmower

00:13:59.480 and he wouldn't speak uh why isn't he in jail you might ask but he said that he definitely has never

00:14:05.440 worked for the federal uh services there the fbi or anything um what do you guys do you think

00:14:11.080 there's an end to the january 6th story or do you think they just let it sort of die out with uh

00:14:17.220 this inconsequential trial they've had for a court case vince no i think it's something that is going

00:14:25.120 to be basically brought up and milked whenever it's needed you know so you'll kind of see it can

00:14:29.440 for quite a few weeks or months and then you know whatever the scenario has to be there's an election

00:14:34.620 coming up or you know biden is just very unpopular in some other regard they're just going to keep

00:14:39.220 bringing it up and it'll i i think they're what they're trying to do and i don't know how successful

00:14:43.280 it will be i think it'll be marginally successful what they're trying to do basically is make this

00:14:47.560 like the new 9-11 9-11 being the sort of terrorist incident that defined american life

00:14:52.960 for basically some odd like two decades they're going to try to do that as much as possible now i

00:14:57.700 don't think it'll be quite as successful i don't think it'll ever really shape our lives as much

00:15:01.580 as 9-11 but that's what they're going to try to do and i think even if 1-6 itself sort of

00:15:06.820 becomes so it's kind of a distant memory in the back of our minds it's going to kind of formulate

00:15:12.140 i think a lot of federal policy when it comes to the national security state and whatnot for like

00:15:16.880 decades to come the same way 9-11 did and you'll definitely see it kind of in the back end used as

00:15:22.660 motivation for you know definitely crackdown on a lot of conservatives and dissidents and stuff

00:15:27.280 and that's all by necessity too because and you'll see this two days from now where they're going to

00:15:31.600 be having specials on mainstream cable television networks they're going to be making documentaries

00:15:36.140 about this all very emotionally turbulent things because they that is arguably the most important

00:15:42.180 historical event for the left and it's funny because you know the far right and the far left

00:15:46.920 sort of have this like horseshoe connection on how they perceive that event the same way they do with

00:15:50.860 charlottesville they think it's like the most important thing to ever happen because the far right

00:15:54.960 will be like we stormed the capital we showed them that we're the people we're not gonna let them take

00:15:59.760 our country and it's like okay well what happened you kicked the bear and now you're gonna get your

00:16:04.480 teeth kicked down your throat like they're arresting you they're gonna mobilize post 9-11 legal

00:16:08.840 infrastructure against you so it really wasn't that big of a deal you accomplished nothing except

00:16:12.840 getting yourselves uh basically arrested and the far left does the same thing with this is so look at

00:16:17.380 what white nationalism does it's the same thing the the person who's more objectively analyzing this

00:16:22.380 will tell you that it was basically nothing it was totally inconsequential but the regime needs to

00:16:27.540 propagate it it's sort of like i hate to use the allusions to to nazi germany because that's a very like

00:16:32.380 reddit to your understanding of history but it's sort of like with the reichstag fire or even when

00:16:36.460 nero burned down rome and i think 436 ad it's like the sort of manufacturing like this this crisis to

00:16:42.460 justify the existence of the regime because what mobilizes leftists and what always has is that they

00:16:48.480 have to believe that they are in this perpetual state of revolution they're always punching up against

00:16:54.540 the mean guys because fundamentally leftism is the mass mobilization of the spiritually ill largely

00:16:59.360 because of personal insecurity so these people have to believe that they are trying to destroy

00:17:04.160 hierarchies destroy power structures that are existing above them because they themselves are

00:17:08.660 insecure because they know that you know they are basically dysgenic unexceptional forgettable people

00:17:13.780 and so that's why these are the people who despite sharing virtually every opinion with corporate america

00:17:20.180 with the regime with the media industrial complex these are people who still think that they are the

00:17:24.880 dissenting voices in society they are literally and i mean this not pejoratively but they are literally

00:17:29.900 retarded because these are people who will read noam chomsky's manufacturing consent they will tell you

00:17:36.220 have to read this you have to see how the menu and then at the same time they'll have like a black lives

00:17:40.880 matter sticker on their laptop and it's like you you literally do not get it you do not understand that

00:17:45.580 you are the one who has consented to the manufacturing you doorknob but they're not capable of this because

00:17:51.900 they are the masses they are the useful idiots as the russian revolutionaries wrote this really came

00:17:57.100 home to me when i saw that colin kaepernick is still in the madden game and given a very favorable

00:18:01.960 rating very angering to a person like me um what do you guys think is going to happen then when we come

00:18:08.780 to 2024 and like biden's got these probably even lower ratings at this point countries maybe bounce back

00:18:16.040 of it economically just by the ebb and flow of how an economy works could be worse i don't know

00:18:20.880 could be you know 300 000 illegals a month and uh you know even higher inflation i don't know yet

00:18:27.360 but uh do you guys think we get trump biden round two i know the rogans of the world are saying it's

00:18:34.080 going to be like kamala and buddha judge or they're going to put in uh michelle obama what do you guys

00:18:39.760 think is what are we getting set up for here because it's not going to be something normal it's not going

00:18:44.000 to be straightforward i don't think i don't think it's going to be that simple what do you guys think

00:18:47.900 so honestly i'm i'm kind of blackpilled on 2024 in this sense not necessarily that like republicans

00:18:55.760 can't win but um like assuming that let's just say it is trump versus biden or trump versus kamala

00:19:01.220 it's more so that i fear that you know the kind of system will not allow authentic you know 2016 spirit

00:19:09.160 like the trump we want to win okay if that makes sense and i really sort of started as you know you

00:19:14.260 see trump saying all this stuff about the vaccine and whatnot and just really keeps continuously

00:19:18.560 picking this hill to die on really kind of abandoned his base when it comes to the issue

00:19:22.500 of vaccine mandates won't really talk about it that much it kind of has me a little bit like

00:19:26.620 you know i don't know necessarily if the trump we want like the real trump will be allowed to win and

00:19:32.740 you might even see it just kind of artificially manufactured that trump basically becomes the

00:19:37.400 guy we fear we're becoming he's becoming right now to do that i don't know i mean we'll have to see

00:19:40.860 there could be a total turnaround but um i don't know in terms of like the election itself it's hard

00:19:46.660 to tell like you look at 2020 going into 2020 it looked like trump was going to win by a landslide

00:19:51.260 and covet happened things can change very fast and so i would still say that things can change pretty

00:19:55.420 fast when it comes to you know an election that's like three years away but if it continues on this

00:20:00.720 state i don't think inflation all this stuff's going to go away very soon i think you know i think we

00:20:05.320 have a good shot there's also an argument to be made it might get so bad and then peak in 2023

00:20:09.880 and then come around in 2024 because there will be a slight recovery it will look like

00:20:14.580 biden is like fixing things that's also a possibility but i don't know it's it's far away

00:20:18.500 i i'm more concerned right now with like the state of trump who he's he's gonna run i mean we kind of

00:20:23.160 know that but like the state of of what he's gonna be as a candidate you know john you're a known

00:20:28.560 republican are you putting your uh all bets in on them oh 100 i am actually uh white pilled on trump

00:20:36.580 and on the 2024 election because i sort of view trump as as this very like once in a lifetime

00:20:43.200 political figure and in studying his life and reading his material and sort of analyzing the

00:20:48.780 trend i think that trump is is really going into this as sort of like his ultimate thing you know

00:20:54.580 if you look at trump he's always said his favorite thing the thing that he likes the most is making

00:20:58.560 deals and i think that he really views like winning in 2024 as the ultimate deal like the ultimate like

00:21:04.260 obstacle for him to overcome in his life because he totally had a 2020 i mean he was basically it

00:21:09.260 was a cakewalk and they took that away from him and he had disloyal ours occupying all the relevant

00:21:14.520 institutions legally speaking that failed to go to bat for him and allowed for this to happen i think

00:21:19.540 that he's making moves behind the scenes to prevent that from happening in 2024 i think also the margin

00:21:24.420 between where he was at in 2020 and where he will be in 2024 is going to be much more advantageous to

00:21:30.920 him both in terms of his absolute gains and the absolute um losses in terms of support for his

00:21:35.620 opposition i also think that in terms of how he has capitulated on the vaccine issue i have some

00:21:41.720 information that would suggest that he's still our guy and there's kind of some stuff going behind

00:21:46.020 the scenes there basically what i'll say is that trump knows that his base is anti-vaccine and he

00:21:51.240 knows that they're not going to move on that regardless of whether he tells them to get that and so

00:21:55.400 we kind of have to wonder well if he knows that it's not even going to stick why is he saying that

00:21:58.980 maybe there's something going on behind the scenes maybe there's a reason that nobody heard from him

00:22:02.300 for like the two days following you know january 6th and the time broadly speaking between that

00:22:07.040 and then when biden was inaugurated so i think that's um we have to sort of acknowledge that

00:22:12.160 while flawed donald trump is the greatest political figure in the last hundred years in this country i

00:22:16.820 would even make the argument ever since maybe george washington and that's where the momentum is like

00:22:21.460 there is a reason that despite his rhetoric being pro-vaccine there are still flags in rural states all

00:22:26.640 throughout the country even if you get out of the suburbs or even in the suburbs all throughout the

00:22:29.780 country people are still all in on donald trump he is our guy he is the american caesar and this

00:22:35.640 country will rise from the ashes like the phoenix under his leadership and i'm excited for that and

00:22:40.980 vince now you know you have to call a plan a little bit there john i am no i'm totally trusting a plan

00:22:45.840 not the q plan because that was a psyop but you know i do have to say people like vince dow coming in

00:22:50.660 they're not sending their best and he's saying you know we have to not go all in on trump that maybe trump

00:22:56.220 i didn't say that i said i am all in on i am all in on trump i'm just concerned you know it's

00:23:00.640 concerning john i don't have the insider information one like you do you know well you know this is why

00:23:05.320 we trust the plan vince dow is over here like well i'll trust the plan provided that i have all this

00:23:09.660 information no trust is is faith you have to just trust the plan patriots in control vince everything's

00:23:17.560 gonna be fine this is a john t-shirt waiting to happen trust the plan with a capital p for patriot or

00:23:23.400 something like that uh were either you guys at uh america fest

00:23:27.200 yeah i was in town give me some takeaways from that as a person who's not allowed to leave

00:23:34.320 his country um cringe good somewhere in between they kicked out the elods what do you guys think

00:23:42.040 about the event after uh going there i like elod a lot he's a he's a friend of mine i think he does

00:23:48.180 great work but i think that he frankly deserved to get kicked out for that and i know that's an

00:23:53.720 unpopular take because we want to like sort of um excuse my language but we sort of want to like

00:23:59.020 masturbate to this idea of like journalists getting the scoop and journalists should be able to ask any

00:24:03.080 question and free speech and it's like that's true but it's like kyle rittenhouse is the most popular

00:24:09.700 figure on the right right now other than like maybe your tucker carlson's your donald trump but in

00:24:13.480 terms of the amount of people who gravitate towards anything that he has to say that's the guy so maybe

00:24:18.540 he comes out and he says that he's in support of black lives matter now instead of looking at this

00:24:22.660 objectively as this is a kid who has been thrown into the spotlight maybe he doesn't have all the

00:24:28.060 right positions but still this is so important that he exists as this figure because what he

00:24:33.220 represents is that the right is willing to defend themselves maybe not politically but at least we still

00:24:38.100 have enough courage to rally behind the issue of self-defense against leftist mobs that is so

00:24:43.240 important and what he represents as a figure is so important so for elad to come in and try to like

00:24:49.560 what bring up that thing that he said that people jumped on him for which by the way was so stupid

00:24:54.960 because people don't understand that this kid yeah he's not going to prison for the rest of his life

00:24:59.360 but he still has lawsuits being filed against him by gage grosswitz who you know he shot his arm off

00:25:04.400 he's going to have lawsuits going out against media so if he goes out on an interview on tucker

00:25:08.780 carlson which is going to be viewed by tens of millions of people and he says yeah i don't like

00:25:12.980 black lives matter but then he like gives our takes on it that hurts him that hurts him and so people

00:25:18.240 want him to all of a sudden because he's in the spotlight because of one issue all of a sudden be good

00:25:22.540 on like all the issues and it's like you know i can't say anything i've hung out with him all i can say

00:25:27.680 is that everything he is saying is strategic again you have to trust the plan you can't have all of

00:25:32.600 the information at all times and for elod to come and kind of do that you know i play ball i understand

00:25:38.580 what it takes to go viral what it takes to be popular i think that there was probably a little

00:25:42.120 bit of self-interest at work there you know he wanted to be the guy to ask kyle the question that

00:25:46.020 everyone was mad about and i get that i'm not saying that's wrong but uh you know if you're going to try

00:25:50.500 to swing at the the king you better make sure you you don't miss i guess would be the thing there so

00:25:55.000 yeah i think that that was kind of stupid of him to do then do you want to chime in on that maybe

00:25:59.340 hawaiian shirt angle something like that yeah um i i agree with with john on that and the i think the

00:26:08.560 whole freak out over kyle saying he supported blm was largely overblown you know and i'm not saying

00:26:13.980 i support the statement you know i'm not going to make kind of excuses for the statement in itself

00:26:17.220 but it's like half of the people who were like really freaking out about this a lot of times are the

00:26:21.960 same people who literally like pretend to be liberal in class to get an a you know and so like you're not

00:26:27.200 willing to kind of take this stand for a grade in a class or to keep your job or whatever and you have

00:26:32.180 this guy on the other hand there's threats on his life you know he almost faced like john said prison

00:26:36.020 for life um still facing lawsuits to my understanding and it's like you know this guy has basically you

00:26:41.560 know the biggest stakes and on basically his entire life is on the line with this stuff and you're

00:26:46.880 expecting him to do something that a lot of people will conceal or just straight up lie about to

00:26:51.320 like get very easy cheap opportunities in life so you know i'm not saying i'm not like defending

00:26:56.120 the statement in itself all i'm saying is i think it deserves a little bit of perspective you know

00:26:59.860 and the kid is what 17 18 now so you know just i would say show some grace you know don't don't

00:27:05.600 show you know there's no need to defend the statement but show some grace towards is what i

00:27:09.960 would say um as for america fest i don't know i actually didn't go i only went inside for like

00:27:14.420 two speeches whatever most of the time i was just there to kind of meet the friends i grew up with in

00:27:18.820 this movement um so that was kind of the main point so i don't really have much to say about the

00:27:22.700 event itself one thing i want to add on to that as well i'm not suggesting that he should have been

00:27:27.360 kicked out because he asked the question it was the manner in which he asked the question and also

00:27:31.600 you can watch the video he's like trying to really insert himself in between uh the entourage of kyle

00:27:36.940 rittenhouse so to speak and it's like i i would be so in support of that if it were basically any one

00:27:42.640 of my political enemies but you have to understand that kyle is such an asset to us and he's also got a

00:27:47.120 huge target on his back like there are people who are literally like calling for this guy to be

00:27:50.980 executed and it's like they don't have really that sophisticated of uh you know security like

00:27:55.580 obviously i wouldn't want something like a tsa at amfest but they really do have to have

00:27:59.180 absolutely no gray area with how this kid is you know operating i mean everywhere he goes he has

00:28:04.420 full security he has this entourage and it's like you kind of want to pervert that so that you can

00:28:09.000 have your viral moment and ask a question it's not even a good question it's like literally just

00:28:13.100 serves to like either hurt him or maintain his status it just didn't make any sense to me so

00:28:17.900 you're flying really close to the sun these days john um and what do i mean me no i mean i mean

00:28:25.420 you're close to the epicenter of the conversation is what i mean uh not oh it's so true not close to

00:28:31.560 the you know comment commentarial commentarily son commentators try getting it out i don't know if

00:28:37.920 you're gonna put this on television oh good reference john doyle it's very 2016 of you um what i was

00:28:42.920 gonna ask is uh this guy who's the bearded alpha male guy that's been making the rounds these days

00:28:48.960 jack murphy yeah what is i hadn't heard of him until this fiasco is you seem to have the inside

00:28:57.760 information john is this true what people are saying are the claims true of his past well you know andrew

00:29:05.740 i'll say i don't i don't know anything first of all i have no issue with jack i'm a businessman i get

00:29:11.780 along with everybody and i've just heard that many people are saying that he was doing uh you know

00:29:17.680 amateur pornography on cam sites back in 2019 and a part of that whole you know i guess history

00:29:24.180 included him masturbating with uh dildos and talking about homosexual intercourse that he had

00:29:29.440 had with men particularly college age men and i don't know if this is true these are just things

00:29:33.720 that i've been told people are saying this but uh unironically i will say this is a guy who followed

00:29:39.760 me on twitter back when i was on twitter in march of 2019 and i remember this was one of the first

00:29:45.700 bigger accounts i think he had about 12 000 followers at the time and i clicked on his profile and he had

00:29:51.100 in his biography that's uh you know he covers um sex and culture and masculinity and uh so i followed

00:29:57.280 him back because i understood that that was the etiquette and then i met him at a uh a party in dc

00:30:02.280 in early 2020 pre-covid and i was talking to him he's a really nice guy and he had a lot of

00:30:07.880 interesting things to say but one thing i noticed about him is that he had very soft eyes i've never

00:30:12.460 seen that on a man before i i know seriously he had like very soft eyes i just thought that was

00:30:17.380 weird for a guy who talks about masculinity to sort of have that that essence about him but i didn't

00:30:21.960 really think anything of it but uh then i saw everything that happened on you are here with you

00:30:25.980 know sydney and she was really you know i know sydney very well she's a friend of mine she had

00:30:30.640 absolutely no malicious intention she was just trying to do her job she probably thought that it was a joke

00:30:34.880 too i mean she didn't know that this guy had written about that before and uh so that happened

00:30:40.060 and then you know uh instead of you know handling it stoically he he decided to sort of have this

00:30:46.380 little episode and then he stormed off and you know i talk a lot about well i don't talk a lot

00:30:50.220 about but i do occasionally talk about masculinity and a lot of times people mainly leftists because

00:30:55.720 they have no concept of masculinity they think of like you know marvel comic book superheroes as like

00:31:00.200 what masculinity is but they don't really understand it which is why they fall so easily

00:31:03.700 into these like androgynous psyops and the trans thing and everything but like masculinity

00:31:07.700 fundamentally you know you could argue different virtues of it but i think it can basically be

00:31:12.240 reduced to stoicism uh responsibility and independence so you can talk about masculinity and

00:31:19.300 not you know because obviously i'm not like this like viking-esque figure but it's like i'm

00:31:22.920 pretty relatively independent for my age relatively stoic uh and relatively responsible and it's like

00:31:28.120 you know you can say that you know john doyle is a skinny nazi soy boy and what does this guy

00:31:33.200 know about masculinity but it's like you know you will never see in any of the protest coverage that

00:31:37.960 i do i'm walking into the lion's den any debate that i do anything like that you will never see

00:31:42.680 me have like a meltdown like that and this guy did because he's not i guess as masculine as he

00:31:47.340 purports himself to be and it really does get into this and i'm going to cover this very soon in a video

00:31:51.400 how masculinity has become something of a commodity something that was supposed to be this sort of

00:31:56.700 natural instinct that is then sort of watered or nurtured by a father figure is now something of

00:32:02.420 a business where guys are growing up you know it's the line in the in the the fight club novel it's

00:32:06.940 like we're a generation of men raised by women we have no concept of masculinity and so we outsource

00:32:11.800 it to these guys who for 99 a month are going to tell you what it takes to be a man and then these

00:32:16.460 guys are you know masturbating with dildos and it's like well um i can tell you that that's not what

00:32:20.760 you're supposed to be doing probably and so i think that's uh this is especially pernicious because

00:32:25.840 you've got these guys who really just don't quite have uh what it takes necessarily and that should

00:32:33.440 have been fostered by some sort of positive male influence but instead of going out there and

00:32:38.500 becoming more responsible becoming more independent and trying to you know be more confident with

00:32:42.880 themselves more secure with themselves to try and develop some degree of stoicism they're like

00:32:46.720 reading these blog posts about like this is what like an alpha male or a sigma male would

00:32:50.660 do when a girl does this you should say this they're trying to like kind of like lock pick

00:32:54.620 their way into being a man and using like these little tips and tricks and it's like that's not

00:32:58.300 what it's about you're never going to have that masculinity being a man is something that is that

00:33:03.000 is nurtured over your entire life basically like i know guys who are 70 who are more you know

00:33:09.000 manly even at their you know approaching decrepancy than than jack murphy at like you know however

00:33:14.540 old he is and i also know guys who at 23 are more masculine than some guys and you know

00:33:19.380 their 40s who still like aren't married and they're still living you know in new york and

00:33:23.120 eating avocado toast with their lattes and everything like it really is not so simple

00:33:27.240 as kind of like oh i believe these things and i have these programs and i lift weights and i do this

00:33:32.400 and therefore i'm a man it's like if you're not responsible and you're very emotional and you're

00:33:37.520 not independent you are not a man and i understand that you know i'm 22 and it's like i don't have a

00:33:42.180 family so i'm not saying that like i'm the authority on this but also i'm not saying that anyone

00:33:46.120 necessarily should be the authority on this i mean to be the authority on this is what it means to be

00:33:50.480 masculine is kind of acknowledging the problem which is that this has become something of a

00:33:54.000 business and something of a commodity which is really symptomatic of just how i don't want to

00:33:58.240 say screwed but problematic our society is in terms of you know the gender roles and everything which

00:34:02.840 of course has led basically opened up the floodgates for things like transgenderism to become a

00:34:07.400 mainstream conversation because it's like if we don't know what men are supposed to be doing what

00:34:10.980 defines men if we don't know what women are supposed to be doing what defines womanhood it's like yeah

00:34:14.520 why could you not basically just like you know press start and change teams halfway through if you're

00:34:19.000 feeling a little bit lost there's no argument against that if we don't have arguments for

00:34:22.760 traditional gender roles sex love and masculinity is going to be my book i think um vince i was gonna

00:34:29.700 let you talk on that subject if you have anything else to add on that that john hasn't stolen from

00:34:35.580 yeah i think well i i think true i think that jack to me has always come off as something of like

00:34:41.760 the epitome of the i would say larping problem also that we have in our movement you know because

00:34:46.040 this guy i i remember his twitter profile picture from back when i was on twitter right he had like

00:34:50.220 this face like this you know he has his beard here and he's like i'm a life coach yeah i'm a man you

00:34:54.940 know and it's like it turns out he's like a gay cuckold like this entire life or whatever and it's it's i

00:34:59.640 think we have a we have this problem with like a lot of angles of the movement whether it's you know

00:35:03.600 the unrealistic uh you know just like over the top masculine life coaches like you know that

00:35:09.960 turn out to be larpers or whether it's like the woman who otherwise dressed like whores but will

00:35:16.360 like put on like a pilgrim dress from like the 1800s and post and it'd be like oh i'm a trad wife

00:35:22.020 whatever you know it's like you don't look like realistic you look like you're cosplaying you don't

00:35:25.860 really look modest you look like you're in a costume and that's what they are doing they're

00:35:28.440 basically cosplaying uh that you know that's just a real problem in general you know people need to

00:35:32.820 get serious and stop larping aaron beady had a really great way of describing that too it's uh

00:35:38.240 he he referred to it as male to male transsexuals and this is so important because if you think about

00:35:44.060 transsexuals which have become mainstream like we just talked about because of this sort of

00:35:48.320 androgynous culture that we've produced because of left-wing ideology it's like what has always

00:35:53.220 embodied the transsexual is this very hypersexual pornographic caricature of say what it means to be a

00:36:00.160 woman so if i'm a man and i'm identifying as a woman i'll get the the hair and i'll get you know

00:36:05.300 top surgery breast implants i'll have like look at blair white for example like a bimbo you know very

00:36:10.380 like you know all this makeup and botox and things like that it's like that's not what it means to be

00:36:14.540 a woman i mean that's not like what being a mother is that's not what being a sister or a daughter a

00:36:18.140 woman is but it's like this is the sort of you know fetishized appearance of it and it's like the

00:36:22.440 same thing that these men do who don't quite understand what it means to be a man they take this

00:36:26.700 almost exaggerated fetishized idea of what a masculine man is the big beard i deadlift i squat

00:36:33.280 i've got whiskey and i've got a cigar this is what men do and it's like they're larping those are props

00:36:37.880 men don't necessarily you know have to drink dark liquor and smoke cigars but they're doing this as

00:36:42.420 this sort of theatrical thing because they're trying to you know appeal to this idea that we

00:36:47.100 have of you know days past where oh i guess you know john wayne was smoking you know camel cigarettes

00:36:51.520 or whatever and this is what men do and it's like men do do that that's true but that is not

00:36:55.780 what it means to be a man and it's like you're trying to supplement your lack of authentic

00:36:59.620 understanding of masculinity with these props to try to fool people to sell your product to them

00:37:04.660 and it is so dangerous and it's so harmful and you really do have to feel bad for anybody who kind of

00:37:09.500 bought into that you can't necessarily blame them per se um because it is this sort of seductive

00:37:14.780 marketing scheme but um hopefully we can kind of get away with that as we go forward you know i really

00:37:19.780 just have a strong contempt for larpers uh in the movement whether that's with this sort of like

00:37:24.640 vince pointed out with you know these trad girls who you know in 2016 they were putting on the maga hat

00:37:29.900 and then they were like look at me i like trump and now it's the same they're putting on the trad

00:37:33.580 wife dress look at me i'm trad and it's like no you're not a trad woman would not know what trad even

00:37:38.800 means she would just like you know just like i'm just doing these things naturally so it is so bad and

00:37:44.460 we're gonna fix it we will fix fast okay i want to ask both of you guys about the whole twitter

00:37:49.640 versus getter thing obviously rogan signed up for getter um the other day which had a huge influx for

00:37:55.220 them people are still saying it's censored people are still saying you know it's getting money from

00:37:59.960 suspicious places my question to you guys i think is do we even need these places is there a need to

00:38:07.560 you know infiltrate or push position ourselves into these social media spaces is there not or do we

00:38:13.680 have to get into the pop culture game to you know win the quote-unquote quote-unquote info war

00:38:20.640 well i think that okay um i think that you definitely need them just out of necessity because of the fact

00:38:28.760 that we're literally not just not allowed in many cases like me and john are not allowed on twitter

00:38:33.200 you know what are we supposed to do where else are we going to go um as for getter itself i you know

00:38:37.740 let me say about getter i i'm open-minded to the concept of it in the sense that i know it is

00:38:42.940 something that's kind of like promoted by the conservative establishment right it's something

00:38:46.300 that's kind of built up by people like jason miller and a lot of money around it i will say

00:38:50.880 in theory that can be a good thing it can be a good thing in the sense that you know as we so often

00:38:56.380 talk about kind of conservative populism is not just about like just doing everything by grassroots

00:39:01.180 power no what we want are kind of oligarchs and aristocrats and elites who actually do good things

00:39:06.560 for us you know and i so i think in theory what i would say is that something like getter or truth

00:39:10.600 social could be a very useful contribution if the conservative establishment in theory wanted to

00:39:15.480 actually like do something good for once it could be said that it's a good thing that it's actually

00:39:19.660 allowed on the app store unlike a lot of these other apps because that that way it's actually

00:39:23.160 accessible to people you know that way it kind of plays the game it plays the system the problem i

00:39:27.680 have is of course if it's going to kind of advertise as you know a free speech platform i think that you

00:39:33.340 know it has to do that and i think that's what we have to be pushing for i have actually have a

00:39:36.720 video on my youtube channel about that coming out later today um and so like that you know that's

00:39:41.280 that's the concern i would say i i agree with a lot of that i think that also what's important to

00:39:47.040 understand is that no one's ever going to like go to those platforms like they're trying to reinvent

00:39:50.900 the wheel and when they talk about free speech they're not actually serious about that they define

00:39:56.100 free speech as like basically posting about how maybe ivermectin should be more available like

00:40:00.700 that's their definition of free speech they're not actually going to allow for anything that is

00:40:04.920 legitimately like edgy or controversial and the reason twitter is so important to be on is because

00:40:10.100 everyone's there and they're there because it's cool twitter you know it's toxic but twitter in my

00:40:15.520 opinion is like the ultimate like perfect social media platform in terms of how everything can be

00:40:20.500 connected to everything you know you can quote tweet and add an image and add a video and link to

00:40:24.260 somebody else's thread it's like it is so interconnected in a way that no other social media platform is i think

00:40:29.340 it's ideal for public discourse and for politics which is why you know in a lot of ways it's more

00:40:33.800 important to be on twitter than it is even youtube like i've seen people with 25 000 followers on

00:40:38.200 twitter have a more syndicated network than me with 330 000 followers on youtube even though it's

00:40:42.700 harder to get youtube subscribers than it is twitter a lot of times twitter is seen as like this sort of

00:40:46.620 like token of legitimacy to like you know your your status within politics so to speak but it's like

00:40:50.560 everybody navigating to these other platforms which we've seen probably about 50 of by now

00:40:55.540 five or so have become you know red household names but there's been about 50 of these spinoff

00:41:00.800 platforms and it's like they're not cool because everybody knows that they're getting on there as

00:41:05.720 this sort of protest like fine i'm going to a different lunch table it's like yeah but you're

00:41:10.060 not allowed at the cool kids table because they kicked you off because you're being edgy but even

00:41:14.980 they are allowed like people like shoe on head for example this is a person who knows implicitly that

00:41:21.380 everything she believes and along with all of her fans all of these like bread tubers or adjacent

00:41:25.440 bread tubers they all know that everything they believe is basically non-threatening to

00:41:29.200 the establishment but it's still fun to be edgy and it's still cool and sexy to be edgy and so

00:41:33.800 then they start co-opting right-wing jokes right-wing memes and right-wing vernacular you see this

00:41:38.260 invariably you look at where all the best memes are coming from all the best slang is coming from

00:41:42.960 it's from the right because the right understands how to be edgy because we were born into it molded by

00:41:48.800 it because we have to be because we're actually threatening to the establishment we exist in a state of

00:41:53.280 deviance from that and so everything that is edgy by definition is going to come from the right

00:41:58.080 and it's kind of like you know what pjw and gavin mckinnis were talking about back in 2016 how you

00:42:02.600 know the right is a new counterculture it's true and we have to exist on these mainstream platforms

00:42:07.540 to be able to spread that i don't think that ceding ground and going somewhere else and basically

00:42:11.560 you know isolating ourselves in these echo chambers where it's like we have free speech which which

00:42:15.580 means that we can say that trump won the election and maybe ivermectin is something that should be

00:42:19.900 explored it's like no one's gonna rally for that no one cares about that we have to be where the

00:42:25.820 conversation is happening if we want to influence people because the only institutions that we have

00:42:30.260 left in terms of like individual representation for the time being are social media platforms and

00:42:35.760 like government and that even is a window that's closing and so i think that a lot of these attempts

00:42:41.660 to sort of reinvent the wheel in a way that's less cool and less fun is just stupid and it's just like

00:42:47.240 these very performative victories that make a lot of well not not a lot of people a few uh or a small

00:42:52.700 group of people i should say a lot of money in the process by convincing people that we're getting

00:42:56.280 something done about free speech you said go make your own social network yeah well guess what we did

00:43:00.940 and it sucks and it's not cool so yeah i'm glad i think i think the goal the goal ultimately just needs

00:43:08.100 to be to somehow and i don't know how but somehow get you know republicans to take real political action

00:43:13.740 legislative action to fully protect free speech like not this cope of like section 230 or something else

00:43:19.780 like just literally just pass a law and i don't know how it works whatever just protecting

00:43:25.160 constitutional free speech on social media but i don't think it's going to happen i don't know it's

00:43:28.740 true and it's because conservatives don't understand government and they don't understand power

00:43:32.940 conservatives think that the government exists as an entity and its job is to limit its own power

00:43:39.400 this is the stupidest thing i've ever heard ever possibly the stupidest thing that's ever been said

00:43:44.160 the government exists to protect people from each other read hobs this is the essence of the state

00:43:50.640 if in practice free speech is now gravitated towards the public square the government has

00:43:56.620 an obligation to make sure that i can say what i'm supposed to say and if anyone disagrees with that

00:44:01.080 then they should not be allowed to say things because they're now posing an active semantic threat

00:44:06.860 against what i'm trying to say and so they should be re-educated probably in canada you know when i

00:44:11.680 take power we'll negotiate some sort of deal there we'll send because they're not sending our best

00:44:15.940 to america so we'll send them to canada they can go you know to to northern ontario and get re-educated

00:44:21.620 or something like that in exchange for a visa for our good friend andrew says i think we solved a lot

00:44:29.080 of cultural issues today we might have to make this um a regular segment a regular uh panel um final

00:44:36.400 words john anything you want to add about vince stealing your your flow your talking points

00:44:42.100 you know i can't really blame him for it i mean to a certain extent politics is about borrowing and

00:44:47.760 i'm not ego invested in this you know i don't have golden skyscrapers with my name at the top yet so

00:44:52.500 i don't mind it you know even if you look at someone like ann coulter i mean ann coulter is in my

00:44:57.720 opinion probably one of the most influential pundits in all of political history at least in the last

00:45:02.200 century or so i mean you look at every political book that's published now it's always one word

00:45:07.240 titled and then with a subtitle that's you know explaining why that one word exists that was her

00:45:12.100 i mean all of her books that were all new york times bestsellers she's the one that pioneered that

00:45:15.720 and a lot of people are sort of co-opting her style now i'm not ann coulter because i'm not a woman

00:45:19.760 but i have a very infectious personality you know i'm funny i'm charming i'm charismatic and you know

00:45:24.140 people like vince dow well you know there's there are things in the works behind the scenes

00:45:28.340 andrew you really have to trust the plan and people like vince dow who they're not that funny

00:45:32.600 they're not that smart they're not they have to sort of they have to sort of co-op that and i

00:45:37.080 understand that because you know what vince dow does bring to the table is the fact that he has a silly

00:45:41.640 name and he's vietnamese and we need that going forward because in a couple decades we're probably

00:45:47.140 going to get conquered by the chinese and i need allies like vince dow vouching for me so that i don't

00:45:52.500 get genocided by our chinese allies who at that point will probably greet his liberators so i'm a big

00:45:57.960 vince dow fan i've endorsed vince dow nationalism since day one he's a friend of mine i'm a friend

00:46:03.740 of his and you know andrew's trying to stoke these these brother wars no more brother wars i will say

00:46:09.380 between vince dow and myself so it's the older brother it's my job is that the long and short

00:46:13.880 of events or rebuttal before we go uh i i agree however um our good friend red eagle politics

00:46:21.720 actually has a conspiracy theory about this which is the fact that i i don't know you may have heard

00:46:25.880 some rumblings of john having a new car well that new car is actually a delorean and it actually goes

00:46:30.600 back in time to steal my takes and that that's that's true so that's how it goes bermuda triangle

00:46:37.540 or or in the future or forward i don't know how that would work back to the future predicted 9-11

00:46:43.080 we'll just leave it there we're behind the paywall we can say anything we want um thanks everybody for

00:46:48.260 joining me thank you vince thank you john one more sentence from each of you metaverse go

00:46:54.100 gay

00:46:56.740 uh vince now nationalism gay all right say goodbye to canada you guys all right bye canada

00:47:11.940 you

00:47:16.580 you

Rebel News Podcast - January 07, 2022

ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Trusting the Rittenhouse Plan w⧸ John Doyle & Vince Dao

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