Are lockdowns going to be permanent？
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Ezra LeVant talks about the latest lockdown in Canada, and why he thinks it could be a template for what's to come in the United Kingdom and the rest of the Western world. He also talks about why Canada's lockdown is worse than the ones in California and New York.
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Hello, my Rebels. Today, I talk about where we're going next. Are we going to have another lockdown?
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How bad will it be? How brutal will it be? And what's the model? Is it what they're doing in
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California or New York? I think maybe what they're doing in the UK is a sign of what's to come. I'll
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Tonight, our lockdown's going to be permanent. It's January 5th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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Well, there's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
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I like to follow the news in the United Kingdom because in some ways, it's a better predictor
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of what's going to happen in Canada than just watching the United States. I think the UK
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is temperamentally more similar to us in some ways. Our parliamentary system, I think they're
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a bit more reserved like Canadians are in comparison to Americans. There's definitely
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many Americans who have a Canadian temperament, but America also has a significant personality
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trait defined by their Bill of Rights, especially the First Amendment and the Second Amendment,
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freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to bear arms. It just makes them a bit
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more stubborn and independent in the face of government bullying. I mean, remember, they
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had their independence through a revolutionary war. And it makes the government a little bit
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less likely to push too hard against the citizens. We're all genetically the same. But the way they
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limit their government in America has a way of shifting the balance in life away from the blob and the
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mob of the state and towards the individual. I mean, it's almost impossible to imagine a Canadian
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province with the license plate, the motto that New Hampshire has, live free or die. That's on every
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license plate of every vehicle in New Hampshire. They look at those words every day. Or the great seal
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of the Commonwealth of Virginia. It's in Latin, and people don't look at a great seal very much, but
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it says sic semper tyrannis, which in Latin means thus always to tyrants, or to be more modern
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in the translation, up yours tyrants. We have friendly Manitoba on our license plates. I think
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that's more Canadian. So when a tyrant does arise, speaking of Manitoba, like Brian Pallister, and he
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starts bullying people and prosecuting churches and looking, you know, locking down businesses and
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defaming people he accuses of not being locked down enough. Being friendly actually means being
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obedient, and that's not good. There's a problem, though, because we see that in every lockdown
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province, and federally, of course, the lockdown elites, the ones who are enforcing the lockdown,
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they're not following the lockdown themselves. Literally, the top civil servant in friendly
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Manitoba just went traveling and super spreading, as the lockdowners would say. So I'm trying to look
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ahead and I'm trying to predict where we're going with all this, and I think that there are some parts
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of the United States that are socialist enough to be templates for Canada. I think California and New
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York meet those tests sometimes. I mean, absurd lockdowns, the destruction of the entire hospitality
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industry, especially in New York. I mean, thinking of New York without its restaurants is like thinking
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of Paris without its cafes. Really, it's essential to its character. What a bizarre official broadcast this
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was on New Year's Eve from Times Square, normally a hub of activity, life and excitement and commerce
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and energy and entertainment and youth. Just desolation, except for the Marxist mayor of that
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city and his Marxist wife dancing for the cameras in the deserted canyons of Manhattan. It was like
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something post-apocalyptic. How awful. And yet they thought it was so wonderful. So I think that's a
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possible template for parts of Canada. But I think the United Kingdom is interesting and terrifying.
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Their Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, has just announced another total, total lockdown. Remember,
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their lockdowns have weird rules like no singing. Seriously. And if you go out to drink, you have to
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have a meal because, of course, the virus checks first. Total lockdown, insane, really absurd. That's
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going to last for months. Take a listen. With most of the country already under extreme measures,
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it's clear that we need to do more together to bring this new variant under control while our vaccines
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are rolled out. In England, we must therefore go into a national lockdown, which is tough enough to
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contain this variant. That means the government is once again instructing you to stay at home.
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You may only leave home for limited reasons permitted in law, such as to shop for essentials,
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to work if you absolutely cannot work from home, to exercise, to seek medical assistance,
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such as getting a COVID test, or to escape domestic abuse.
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Yeah, it's permanent now, isn't it? Which is odd because it's exaggerated, the whole virus. I mean,
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there are people indeed dying in the United Kingdom from the virus. And like here,
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they're overwhelmingly very old people who have serious underlying health conditions like diabetes
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and heart disease and dementia, all combined, by the way. But in general, life is unaffected by
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the virus itself. Speaking of viruses, this video has gone viral. In the UK, a woman went into a
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hospital in the United Kingdom, a hospital that was allegedly overwhelmed with cases. And she filmed
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it on her phone, and it was practically empty. There's actually no hospital bed crisis. There's
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fewer hospital beds in use now than this same time last year in the UK. And she was arrested
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for taking that video. I'm not making that up. Arrested.
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They'll arrest you for anything in the United Kingdom. They arrested this guy for hugging,
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She's not concerned. We're not concerned about an invisible fictitious virus.
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Please maintain social distancing properly, sir.
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Because you've clearly just been engaging with people who are not in the same house.
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You can see the red light going around in there on my camera.
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Otherwise, how are they going to get you to submit?
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because the original one, I guess, was losing its scare factor.
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But I guess it didn't sound scary enough, this UK variant.
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So they came up with a new South African mutation of the virus.
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I know that martial law typically means soldiers in the streets.
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I showed you this from Gatineau, Quebec just yesterday.
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Nothing's worse. No. Yes. What are you going to do now? Stay there.
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You know, no one really protested that, certainly not the official opposition whose job it is
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to oppose. So the premier, he can read the reaction. He's now going to bring in a brutal
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lockdown that might actually include UK-style curfews. I mean, it's science. The virus is
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particularly deadly after 10 p.m. at night, don't you know? That's science, folks. What are you,
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some conspiracy theorist? And in the city of Toronto, they are literally dispatching police
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cars with cops with guns in their holsters to tell children where they can and can't toboggan.
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You don't catch the virus outside on toboggan hills. You just don't. Sorry, there's never been
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a recorded case of that happening ever. And kids, by the way, are the least vulnerable in society to
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this virus. What on earth is going on? I note that shootings in Toronto have nearly tripled
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under Mayor John Tory's watch. Tripled, but he's taking police off the gangland beat to patrol toboggan
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hills with their guns. I'm not kidding. Are they going to shoot someone? Are they going to shoot
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someone? They're talking about getting more brutal. I don't know why. Masks were not mandatory for the
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first six months of this pandemic. Then they were, and cases went up. Lockdowns have been tried once,
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twice again, and cases went up. We know that cases can mean false positives, of course. That's why the
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public health deep state insists on mass testing healthy people. Remember this clip?
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If you test somebody today, you only know if they're infected today. And in fact, if you're
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testing in a population that doesn't have very much COVID, you'll get false positives almost half the
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time. Why would you deliberately test healthy people en masse, other than to find cases? I say
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again, I'm not denying that some people really are getting sick and dying, as they do every year from
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the flu. And this is a particularly bad flu season, about twice as bad as the normal flu season. But
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we are now killing far more people through the lockdown than are being saved by the lockdown,
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if indeed anyone is being saved by the lockdown. Why are we shutting down restaurants full of 20 and
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30 somethings, both customers and workers, when the virus targets people in their 80s and 90s?
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So why are we doing that? Well, it depends who we are. Why are we doing it? As we all saw this past
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week, the ruling class is leaving this monstrous mess they've created to go to Vegas or Hawaii or
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Palm Springs or Florida or Greece to get away from the mess that they have made, to get away from the
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police state themselves, to get away from cops busting into a house and dragging out someone because
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they were the sixth person in the room. But not everyone can afford to fly away. Not everyone gets paid,
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whether they work or not. Not everyone can afford to have a two-week quarantine off of work after
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their holiday. So take a look at this kid. Now he swears, which young people sometimes do. Once in a
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blue moon, I've been known to swear. But listen to the cops. They're arresting him. Well, just because,
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I swear to god they're arresting this guy. But what the fuck?
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You're under arrest for obstructing a piece of.
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I didn't obstruct you. I was going to volunteer.
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So the cop asked him for ID and he said him to go f*** himself, which is not illegal.
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You can't punch somebody in the face for that, sir.
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You're also not supposed to be out right now, eh, bud?
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You can hand over your ID or you can get arrested?
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So he's saying if you don't ID yourself, he's going to arrest you.
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He said I'm going to get arrested if I don't get my ID.
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They have to give you a reason why they're asking.
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I think I'd probably be rude, too, if a cop busted my chops for literally standing in
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a public parking lot outdoors doing nothing wrong.
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So the kid got roughed up and he was assaulted, he says, and he was arrested and he was taken
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to jail and now he's dead, suicide, he was taken into police custody for what?
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And then they released him and he kills himself.
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He swore at them, so they arrested him and put him in his cell and told him things and
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But it'll probably be marked as a COVID death, I bet, and used to justify even more lockdowns
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Lucky Mayor John Tory, he's got that gorgeous house in Palm Beach, Florida to go to after he's
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Well, we knew even before Donald Trump became president in the 2016 election and 2017 inauguration
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And if you looked at his historical tweets, and historical tweets sounds like a bit of a
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joke, but it shows what he was thinking about and talking about even before he formally entered
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politics, well, he was obsessed with China politically, militarily, geopolitically.
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I always laugh when I listen to this mashup of him saying the word China again and again,
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Well, indeed, it came to color his administration.
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Everything from trade and tariff barriers to trying to box in China, trying to get North
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Korea out of China's thrall, strengthening allies in the region like Korea, Japan, and
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But of course, it looks like Donald Trump, despite fighting to the very end, will not
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And Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will assume the presidency in short days.
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So what is China thinking about this reorientation?
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Well, there's a very thoughtful piece in Newsweek magazine, of all places, entitled,
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Communist China, is preparing to eat Joe Biden's lunch.
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And it's written by no one other than our friend Ben Weingarten, who joins us now via Skype.
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Let's put aside any lingering possibilities, however faint, that Trump might pull a victory
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There are some people who are waiting to the last moment.
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Let's move on with the assumption that Biden becomes president.
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He really is more under the sway of China than any president in American history.
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And you can go back and look at, for example, Communist China's attempts to sort of compromise
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Democrats around Bill Clinton and perhaps Bill Clinton himself.
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But there is nothing really like the ultimate swamp creature in Joe Biden.
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And part of the swampiness is his lifelong, his career-long effort to cheerlead for greater
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integration, so-called integration, cooperation, accommodation of, in effect, Communist China's
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And he's actually put it very explicitly that Communist China's rise in the past, he said,
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America, he was in charge, of course, of the so-called China portfolio under the Obama
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administration, which was completely toothless as China continued to expand its sphere of
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influence in its near abroad and beyond, engaged in the catastrophic Office of Personnel Management
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And we can go through the litany of ways, including, of course, when he chaired the Senate Foreign
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Relations Committee and during his career cheerlead for China being integrated into the world trade
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and financial architecture that was largely built by America and obviously the West more
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And this is to say nothing of, at very minimum, the appearance of compromise and corruption associated
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with his family's dealings with Chinese Communist Party tied individuals and entities.
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So all of that adds up to, in effect, a national security disaster for America.
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And what I write about in this piece is what China is saying and what Chinese officials are
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saying, including the foreign minister, is that they look forward to the end of the bad old days of the Trump
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era, where, of course, you know, they use the same kind of rhetoric as CNN would use over here,
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And essentially what they say is now we can return to a period of normalcy and cooperation.
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And they don't they use sometimes those exact words.
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And of course, that's exactly what the Biden camp is messaging itself in the realms of space,
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for example, on the environment and COVID-19 relief measures and a litany of other areas as well.
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So what you see ultimately is China believes they have they have Joe Biden's number.
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And I think it's in part because where the globalist transnational progressive elite
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stands in America is pretty much where China stands as well.
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And ultimately, it's catastrophic for the West.
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And I just point out, you can look at small data points like The New York Times today writing
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this article on a straight news piece, I guess, reporting on how great things are in China,
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that they have freedom from fear, whereas we're all stuck in lockdown here in America.
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And you saw the media cheering on, in effect, the fact that in Wuhan they were celebrating.
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And, you know, of course, this is China putting out propaganda.
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And Times Square on New Year's Eve is completely empty and dark.
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This is the world that they're all cheering on.
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And they're all in on the game because all of the Western elites think they're going to
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But in the end, they're going to be the first ones, maybe not lined up and shot, but figuratively
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at least, they will be the ones who pay the dearest price at the end of the day if we become
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There's China has had a number of billionaires for a long time, sort of like when the old Soviet
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Union crumbled, you quickly saw these oligarchs who brutally carved up the assets of the former
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Some of them were truly phenomenal businessmen, but most of them were just sharp dealers who
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In China, I think there was some of that, but there were actual innovators too, especially
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He became one of the richest men in the world through his Communist Party connections, no
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But I think he was genuinely a businessman and an innovator.
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I mean, I think you could say he was the closest thing to, I don't know, the Jeff Bezos or the
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Steve Jobs of China, worth close to $50 billion.
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But then he started talking a little too proudly, I think, and China squashed his public offering
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It would be as if, you know, suddenly the CEOs of Twitter, Amazon and Facebook just went
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I think that's the most shocking story around about what China's really like.
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And it should be a warning to the Western business elites who think they can outmaneuver
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the Chinese Communist Party when Jack Ma, the top commie, couldn't do it himself.
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Yeah, several years back, Jack Ma came out as a member of the Chinese Communist Party because,
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of course, if you were a billionaire there, you would have had to have been a member of
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the Chinese Communist Party and probably literally and figuratively paid your dues.
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And I think that was maybe the first sign that he understood, he was self-aware enough to
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know that there's a problem here of creating the appearance of being maybe bigger than the
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party itself, maybe being bigger than, I would call him Chairman Xi himself, General Secretary
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You saw that he ran afoul of regulators in some remarks he made.
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This is the diplomatic Western way of describing what happened in advance of this much bandied about
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initial public offering, which was supposed to be the largest one in the world, and then
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And the reporting suggests that it was pulled at the behest of General Secretary Xi himself.
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I would say that's another example of the party imposing its rule, its dominance in general,
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and Xi imposing his strength in particular, showing that no man is above the party and no man is above
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And I think you have to put this in the broader context as well of the fact that there's been a
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significant, I don't know if I'd call it crackdown on quote unquote private enterprise in communist
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China, but Xi has made it very clear that he believes that state-owned enterprises and state-backed
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companies need to play a much more significant role in the economy and that the Chinese Communist
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Party needs to play a much more significant role in the economy, which only makes sense because their
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economy, in effect, is all about, at the end of the day, serves at the behest of and serves the aims of
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This could be a good thing for the West in some respects, to the extent that the central planning of the
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Chinese Communist Party ultimately destroys some of their ventures that might really undermine us
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strategically and from a national security perspective.
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One of the apparent casualties, it seems, is going to be Jack Ma, and I've speculated in
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conversations with friends and maybe on social media as well, that Jack Ma will reemerge at some
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opportune time for the Chinese Communist Party, fully chastened and pledging his devotion and newfound
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You know, it reminds me of a case more than a decade ago.
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One of the richest men in Russia was named Mikhail Khodorkovsky, and he was the head of an oil company
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And he started to have political thoughts, and he was giving money to different political groups and
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And then one day, his private jet touched down in Siberia.
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And now, I should say, in reaction to that, there were some sanctions and business and other
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retribution that the West punished Russia with.
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In fact, his arrest caused their stock market to fall more than America's did on 9-11.
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But with Jack Ma just being, you know, unpersoned, I haven't seen any reaction politically, economically
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I mean, sure, people are maybe nervous, but I haven't seen, I mean, I think China is untouchable.
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They can't do, there's nothing they can't do that would make the West retaliate.
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Now, with Trump leaving, I think they're going to be more brazen than ever.
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Has there been, like, maybe Jack Ma is a bad example, but I can't think of anything real
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and toothy that's being done to challenge China that, I mean, a few minor matters from
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the U.S. State Department in the last few months, but I think they're all going to be undone
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Yeah, the Trump administration has imposed significantly more sanctions, I'm sure, than
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any administration to come before it on Chinese Communist Party henchmen, essentially, officials
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And there have been several equities that have been delisted on American exchanges.
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And there's a much broader push within Congress to push for the delisting of all the Chinese
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companies that do not adhere to the same regulatory reporting standards as every other company
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in the world that does business and gets access to our capital markets.
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But leaving all of that aside, I think you're absolutely right.
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First of all, that there will be no response from a Biden administration.
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And if anything, a negative response in that they'll want to do even more business.
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Second of all, look, just a week or so ago, the EU entered into that investment pack with
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China, which essentially rewarded them for all of their malign behavior over the last year.
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So to put your statement a different way in question form, what would China have to do?
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What pain would China have to inflict on the West or on its own people?
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Of course, it seems that our woke capital doesn't really care about what it does with its slave
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What would China have to do to cause a reaction, a concerted, resolute effort front among the
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And it's a scary hypothetical to ponder right now, I'm sorry to say.
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I mean, I do know that America has put some sanctions on, for example, companies using
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Nike that loves the woke reputation with Colin Kaepernick.
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It is opposing any restrictions on letting it use slave labor.
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I want to get back to your piece for a second in Newsweek.
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You quote at some length this Chinese Minister of Foreign Affairs, Wang Yi, and he has five
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topics that he wants, five red line tests, as you call them, that China has, five things
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he wants to accomplish with the Biden administration.
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We need to respect each other's choice of system and development path.
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That's another way of saying don't criticize us anymore, no matter what we do.
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That's a way of saying don't talk to Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang.
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Like, they're phrased neutrally, but when you think of what they mean, you know, on maritime
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issues, cooperation, not friction, that means let China dominate the seas and threaten Taiwan.
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And the last one I think is the most terrifying, more people-to-people exchanges.
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That basically means sending thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of Chinese
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agents, operatives, the children of Communist Party officials into colleges, basically letting
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China walk into America and continue to take the levers of power and influence.
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Essentially, what he's laying out is a roadmap for China returning to its rise without any
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sort of resistance from the West, because what's happened in the last four years has truly
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And so, again, I go back to return to normalcy and cooperation.
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And I do believe that the foreign minister has used those exact words, at least as translated.
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Return to normalcy means return to China's march to global dominance over the capitalist
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And by the way, they talk about when they talk about respect for systems, one of the things
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she has said in the leading philosophical journal of the Chinese Communist Party, which
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transcribed a speech he gave to parties to the party's bigwigs some years back, about seven
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years back when he started his reign, was he said that ultimately socialism will dominate
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capitalism and we need to end up essentially in an invincible position and seize the initiative.
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So return to normalcy, return to China's march, inexorable march to be the hegemonic power.
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And cooperation means with Western help, with the West colluding in that march out of our
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greed, naivete and the litany of self-loathing.
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And we could run through all of the explanations for it.
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But I think it's just imperative to look at the words that they use.
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Obviously, there's the communist doublespeak and the typical deception.
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But really what they're saying is, hands off of us, don't you dare get in the way of our
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And we should not exceed to any one of these red lines.
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In fact, we should exceed to zero red lines that the Chinese Communist Party puts forth.
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Because ultimately, if we don't resist it, and they are fighting on every single possible
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prong, this comprehensive march, and we don't put up any fight to it, we will lose.
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Well, as Gordon Chang always tells us, China says they are at war with us, not a shooting
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Whether we admit it or not is rather irrelevant, because that's what they say they're doing.
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Let me encourage folks to click on over to newsweek.com, where you can read this essay,
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Communist China is Preparing to Eat Joe Biden's Lunch.
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Douglas writes, surprising to see Ezra so in favor of cancel culture.
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The biased media complain about hypocrisy and liberals chime in against the government,
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and presto, certain key elements of Kennedy's establishment are gone.
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The ruling class in Alberta are following the rules, which say travel outside the country
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is not recommended, and even the federal advisory to avoid all non-essential travel.
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These are the enforcers of the rules who are destroying lives by the thousand, causing mass
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unemployment, and then sneaking away to enjoy the things they're banning.
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They haven't expressed an unacceptable point of view.
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They've shown that while they'll jail their own citizens effectively, they'll sneak out the
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I saw a memo that Tracy Allard allegedly sent to Jason Kenney saying,
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Premier, I'm taking three weeks off for personal time.
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I was shocked that Jason Kenney spent his own personal capital on these people.
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Look, I want every single one of these MLAs to travel and live freely.
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They, in fact, are going around locking down and fining and prosecuting.
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I'm sad to admit that you're right, as for politicians believe that getting caught is
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But this lesson of cabinet firings won't quell their desire to flout the very laws they
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Well, the answer to that is don't make laws they don't believe in.
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I think it was very clear that Alberta was trying hard to hold out against this lockdown
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mania, but the public health deep state and the media sort of wore them down.
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If they didn't believe in the lockdown, they shouldn't have ordered it for the little people.
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That's what insiders, elites, gravy train types do.
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It's not what Alberta populist conservatives do.
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Paul writes, always great to hear from Spencer.
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Sure, politicians will continue to do what they want until the people stand up to them.
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Yeah, and obviously, I don't like being in common cause with Rachel Notley, who's been
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But it's not because I agree with Rachel Notley's ideology.
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It's because the United Conservative Party of Alberta made some terrible decisions, terrible
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Again, I say I'm all for traveling, but you can't go for a jaunt to Hawaii while you are
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I know this because that's what the law is called, and they need that state of emergency
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So if there is a state of emergency that's letting you crush lives, you can't skedaddle off
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,